#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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swap between all trees hehe
2nd tier ig
Ok about to hit last plot, feelsgoodman
Just look at map and go to trees and try to chop them
Or use the wiki
https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Choppin but it doesn't say what lvl you need for each tree?
uhhhh how do you do the cooking quest in world 4, i got the turkley recipe but its not letting me progress
unless I am misreading this or don't understand
It might not be level but efficiency gated
I honestly dont remember its been months since I worriied about that
i didnt afk there.... i see... why did they make this area so restrictive compared to the first 3 man,
IF you look at that chart its showing the efficiency needed to get a log each swing at 5% and 100%
ah, so I go to my skills, clikc chop, and see my chop eff at 188k, so then on that table in wiki, I look at 100% and 160k for Tundra logs... so that is my best for this char
perfect, I honestly didn't understand what those columns were, so thank you!
Ye its not a well made graph
yeah i did add pancake's setups and linked the old sheet there. +nocturne gaming guides
You figured it out?
Getting close to finishing them

I should really upgrade my cogs
Always good idea
Most of mine are at about average 70%
Bruh
I think all my non-directionals are finally 100%+
Yeah it’s fucked
hi boss
I only have two more goals then im done, 300% min cog and 1m destroyed
Hey mate how’s it going
I think im in trouble
chill, been on the gfood/statue grind, slacked that shit off for a while lol, wbu
My internet has been down for four days, so I can only play when I’m home and have hot spot.
So pretty much nothing apart from two hours a night lol
Was doing sanctum before and forgot 38 now they all just afk respectively
lmao, how did this mastery suddenly kick my ass so bad
It doesnt matter whos making the cogs right
Its just highest char con level?
Yep
I make cogs significantly faster than the last time I did this
Need for speed
not deserved

bro
Eh that one’s alright, it replaces your current stuff?
x2
smh this hater

I’m gonna need to go back on the cog grind eventually aren’t I
Grrrrrr
Being an old person, its so weird to think about how I havenet listened to an album in about 10 years
Imagine 170% 65%
I just turn on a playlist on spotify
BEAR TIME
I feel like it makes it so much harder to follow new releases
BEAR WITNESS
Ouchie
What am I witnessing
how to get accuracy?
Phew
not using atoms on it ofc
idk who made this calculator
But its a big lie
pancake
minimum effort is not 129
did you insert your total cons level instead of highest cons level?
Pancake the construction guy
(Sorry Lou)
Fair
It’s true too
With that said I take the title as king of the board, unless he can prove his is better than mine
And it starts, I dont realize trash is still on and I trash all my directionals

pancake is a cake 
goated puzzle game
Goatly spitting facts
Gn
gn bear
imagine sleeping
tf
😭
Hey shadow so can you review my account real wifi tell me what i should do for alchemy
real wifi
Here ill fix it
real shit
Am I correct in assuming that the directionals are advised to be player construct xp?
All player xp
xp + xp = better person
Like this chat
holly another one
should have xp on both things
shadow copying me
they are really rare
well I understand but that s like jackpot
i mean if you are not crazy like me yeah. im just deleting them till they are good
I have not even gotten enough that are both to fill out all the directionals with em
understandable
my highest xp cog sad
This one made me sad
that was me when WW
im farming dr multi with AC thats why im doing cogs xd
whitescreen incoming

idk why but downers seem to be the rarest for me
And diagonals I guess
Bro this made me v happy, first usable diagonal
I always seem to get 60%+ speed to flags omni cogs 
Aye lucky night
wtf, why is my 2nd dk getting 10x more xp than my first dk
even swapping positions it shows the same
Are you active on the one dk?
I am active on the one with less
lmoa, I just started booking everything again bc I was worried
There's no easy way to do this right ?
doing it on dk is bad tbh. he respawn on all mob death
u dont want that when doing skulls.
Then ES?
yeah
Thank you 🙏
ES, SB should be fine
well 2 white screens in
What on earth is that gear
Do on bubo is another option
classic cog clicking
U guys get white screen while clicking cogs?
i see a lot of ppl gettting white screen
How
dw you are just too noob for whitescreen 
Smh
My finger getting sore
when become endgamer? im waiting
Give me my training arc first
send me your IT in dms rq
I was told I am mid game, I disagree I am in the first level that is the real tutorial after the one the devs expect you to skip
My main focus is reaching world 6 for now so i have less resources and those gears are not affecting much anyways?
gotta be careful with them it's. Last time I did that someone's advice was just to work on getting more luck
amarok gear is easy to make and easy to get and gives more slots for more accuracy once you hit w4
is there a class up in world 3?
no next one is w4
Actually i have reached w6 on my blood berserker , but haven't defeated him . And i have every gear available except void and beyond . Just my dk does not have it . But thanks. My sailor has amarok and i am pushing him to w6 boss in hope to defeat w6 boss , but still changing gears is not affecting my kills that much
I mean you do you. Vault makes it so just about everything is viable through just unlocking worlds
U wont push to w6 boss with those gears

ofc you are here when u heard that 
Wait whatt ? Reaching the 4th tab is not possible because of the blue souls at this point so i am depending upon only things i have . If that does not work then i will try another way . I have wave 10 on them . @minor scroll
What
sclythe is noob

why not rams??
Follkey said rams is best
fuck rams
bracket man tested too
I have wave 10 on blue souls so can't open tab 4 in smithing, it will take time , so i will try with whatever i have
And elle knows he gotta be different if he wants to beat follkey
isnt that sneaky pfp?
That guy stole
lmao
Idk if I made a mistake or it was the right call to enchant my villager exp collectibles
Dont push w6
Went from 38m to 76m
But the chance is now lowered
Is the economic policy quest in W3 broken? It's not counting coin drops on the ground
Probably because there's another drop on the floor
It only counts it if the coins are the only thing on the ground
you did. i saw you
can you 3d print souls?
no
damn
lies
well had to roll back my sneaking mastery bc I went from everyone being at either 5%/0% chance to catch to 100% on every m3 floor
nope
nuh ur allegations
tell em what did i say just now
nah
never
can't even hate properly
better' when
should I push for Vman quest (like the 1 moillion kills on every mob world 1-3 (I'm mid W4)
They do... You only need amarok gear all the way world 1-5, you've basically been taking the hard way this whole time
Because of the set bonus
Nah probably not
alright
Ohk . I will try that
back in the day
Id wait until w5 when u get the 3rd god to do it but idk
we didn't even know what was bubbles
What about the later world boss gears , i can make w2 and w3 boss gears also
sure
free set buff right there
Nah
W3 boss gear is good
No??? Unless they're permanently unlocked
It is NOT. Mastery is pretty much USELESS
If he did then he should craft every set of gear he can
If he didn't then there's not much use in crafting chzi
no no don't confuse the fella niw
You could say that for most things.
If you do not have set bonuses, then the defence and accuracy from amarok is way better than mastery
interesting
I didn't have purple salt until world 6 lmao
Oh 💀
Afk time only uses max damage, so mastery is useless for that
as someone who uses better stones on lower gear
Basically mastery is like the most useless thing in the game
indeed go do amarock
why does it exist then
You know the smithy bonus thing in world 3? Is that permanently unlocked for you yet?
Helps slightly active ig?
Only if you can't already one hit
Yes
Yh but I doubt he can 1 hit much in w6
:o okey
Whoa whoa how many set bonuses do you have unlocked in there
Why the third one btw blank?
I think bro said he doesn't have anvil tab 4 yet actually
2x kills
art is explosion
U don't have to but I thinks it's easier
I was thinking of arctis because of the 2x bonus from lab
lol
If you're very bad at lab then that's more worth it I guess
4x is better than 2x!
That's not how it works
well its 2 different things
Get EVERY SET YOU CAN done
u can't add 2* and 2'
Then use the best base stat gear
It's either lab from arctis: where you get a lot of bonuses AND the 2x one, or it's nobisect: where you only get 2x
Wait istg both nobi and lab one are 2x multi no?
It's two gods you idiot
they both are 2x but for different things
Pocket divinity tho
They're not even in world 5 yet, when I unlocked those 2 gods I was nowhere near pocket div
doot issues
When i said I could make other boss gears , i mean if i must then i will make w3 boss otherwise no because not that much merit point
But i can make it
That takes a while to get lmao you have to get the fourth villager and level it up
Pocket divinity isn't rlly hard to get
It takes a bit
It's just the third
It's not that hard, but it takes time
Sorry third yeah*
And u only need to level it up once
Anyway I don't get what you're arguing about then
When they unlock world 5
They won't have pocket div until that cavern is unlocked, which may take a short while
But as soon as you unlock 5 you should always put everyone in div to unlock arctis
I was just saying it may be better to try get vman after getting both the kill buffs from lab and nobi
Well yeah it's fine if u don't but I just thought it might be easier
I didn't get Vman til I got those bonuses and then just more upgrades
I'd say you can get the lab bonus without arctis, but then you can't be doing the death note on every character
Yep
U can start hole first thing in W5 tho
U don't even need to push maps cause I think u can just tp there
Yeah but getting arctis is also a timegate
Idk man
I should start trying to get troll set ig
Not as long
You can just throw everyone in div moment you unlock 5
Hole is just waiting for the first villager, only opals can speed that up
how do i chop the tundra logs? im on my wizard and using the diamond axe but i dont get anything an my per hour logs is 0
Then you don't have enough skill efficiency
It's the same for all four of the node skills you need skill efficiency to mine the node
It's not a matter of getting new axes, you could chop the highest trees with copper
Surprised someone in world 3 doesn't know how skill efficiency works lmao
💔
It's not as bad as some others
True 😭
bet
Someone had what, 2 vmans? Because they didn't know the merit shop had anvil unlocks
So they could only use vmans for skilling
What 💀
Cause they didn't know tools and armour and gear that weren't the first ones/boss lens existed
Crazy 😭
Vault caused people to lose braincells
That's kinda impressive icl
The only armour they could use was boss (I guess amarok makes that fair)
It's more sad lowkey
They've been on hard mode, they're literally in world 5
Gotta respect the dedication
I told them about it
No, they just didn't know. I was the one who told them about it.
anyone for dance achivment in w4? pizza 2
I'm surprised they didn't quit tho 😭
How many people there rn
Just you?
lots of peeps, but just me dancing so far
Doubled the amount tonight
Bet
I reached 2bil damage base on my db
world 4 actually 
How thoooo
You learn that in world ooneeeee
You can only mine/attack at a base of 5%
yey my first whatever coin this is
🔥
You need accuracy to attack, and skill efficiency to skill
fire
i skip everything an just play till i figure it out or ask
And after 100% skill efficiency you do multi ore/fish/chop/catch chance
That's really bad lmao
but it works
Not for the person who didn't use tools and only the base weapons and boss armour
As well as having 2 vmans which did skilling
ok that's pretty stupid then
Is it possible to do multikill if u don't have 100% accuracy
If u do enough damage but u don't have accuracy
even i wouldn't ignore the stats tools give back then
5th white screen in a row
smt tells me i know wut is goin on
accidentally wasted one killroy fight to buy black pearls when i was gonna buy arcade balls
Bruh
One killroy???
Did you spam the black pearls button or smth?
3 with killroy prime right
yea
Rip, spamming and still not realising
yea shit happens
ok did some cog clicking
-2m flaggy rate
cooked
How will I ever recover from this
I keep having a bug with Massive troll boss where i finish the puzzel but cant attack him and the fight just freezes. Have to reset by leaving the portal. Anyone know how to stop this from happening?
completely exit the dungeon dont refresh
Will need to do this until you do the task that lets you not do the minigames anymore
Oh amazing thanks mate! seems to be working now!!! ❤️
a tab confused on how this works? is there anything i need to click? or isit automatic and will take effect next daily reset?
you need to connect to the lab node
hmm i have lvl 30 boulder tower and a lvl 13 poison tower. Does the poison tower already do more dmg?
uuuuge
is this good for mid W4?
doesnt rlly matter, rush to w6 then backtrack
that's enough to get to like end of w5
yeah?
you only need like 1M dmg to push w4
I might have overfarmed lol
sweet
cuz I was folloing IE and idk mid W3 seems bad lol
finally
a year to get it
nah i just stopped at 1.86 or smth and went to work on alchemy
i prefer doing them separate tbh

amarok set is good until W5?
till w6 even
cuz I can already do dementia set if it's better
you use it till you can craft troll
its pretty much the same so just use amarok
I have the whole amarok set at the bonus guy so it's on all the time no?

if you don't farm it fast enogh leave it for later
not a prio
alright
I'll just active W4 and try to rush to late W5
idk if active on BB is better than AFK though
oh
you can push Dk or ES if you want active
even though I have the thingy that makes portals open 2X faster or something
still
.
is dk or es better?
i would say DK is better to get builded faster
if you have plenty of dmg do DK if not ES
Es is more like a glass canon
18.234M-37.76M on DK
enough to even do w5
ew get good
Me when its literally rng
what nunchuck you rocking
me when your stealth isn't going to get you anywhere
t8 plants seems like fun, might want to try it some day
what's your stealth
I will show you when i get home in 5m. Tho what you saw there was just 1 character. Only wanted to see the damage
so do I still put my BB in afk W4 or do I put him in the mines at the place of my DK lol
anything is fine tbh. lab is fine too
should only take ~1500 years like that 
free
Ez only 1500?
follkey, you've done the t8 plants right? what's the bit multi
290
you gotta lvl the bubble too though
interesting.. that's like what, 1.5x bit multi for clicking a few plants? easy
I brought it to 99%, should be fine
okey wrapped up the CC, let's go see how hard it is the get some t8s
How can I see how many cooking spices do I have?
I want to get ready for next chips/jewels
@west pilot party?
k
you at the map?
can't see you lmao
classic idleon
oh I thought you wanted to build bloodbone dr elle, why the change of heart 
the numbers got my ass
😂

it's definitely t7
4 hours later

but whyy 😂
mono on arena
indeed
💀
he's trying to be griffy bit
so it was your doing, how dare you put mono in any pet comp
thats pet battles not arena
I know
but you can't be introducing them to such stuff 
gotta hide the mono
😭
you'll end up with people thinking that fastest pet comp for arena 100 is mono mono mono
bigger timewaste than timmy timewaster frfr
defender mono trasher defender mono trasher
💀
what about defstone
wow follkey was here that guys a legend
bout to bust that nut 
jk lol
bro??

send video
this will take a while 
it's slow af
I haven't unlocked bloodbones
why do I have a copper bar in my name lo
I'm slow
850 AC hours logged on my second bubo
bout to make all of you jealous with the prices fr


I don't even have tenteycle at 81%
I stopped here
you have 82? nice 
what even is this lol
time to click cogs ig
AC- bubo mc
you going to crash
trust
oh it's the class in W5 or 6?
6
help
you unlock classes in w1 w2 w4 and w6
why do you unlock flags like that...?
because I'm stupid and just saw that flags have different unlock requirements-
😅
also tap on this till it says exp. only have xp cogs on board + only dks
well
coggers
also this is the best loadout
make sure you have the correct placements for directional cogs so they hit both dks
200+ full cogs should be fine ig. i need to slowly fix directionals tho
better?
sweet thanks a lot :o
the new guide didn't reach #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 yet?
did johs just trolled me?
this my printing tab i think it's alright for my level?
cooked
oh I can't acess that channel lol
better 
goofy ass chat
also the ppl there are really helpful so im gonna go ask how to get accuracy
ahah thanks
i did first
what the hell
its the secret meta
old picture was outdated.
O_o
2 hour shift still, fuck my chungus life
crazy how meta changes without lava updating the game 

just checked afk balot in 6 hours.. today is sampling day 
uhoh
no samples allowed
i'm procrastinating until the end of the week 
Afk ballot is just a cheap tactic to make weak samples stronger!
why sample
havent sampled in months
when you can just not do it
i will prob only samlpe refinery mats and copper and logs for atoms and leave the rest sample slots free
exacly what do u need more atoms for
Atom gstack when
maybe 2-3 hourly clicking mats
damn
alr have bro
does he know?
Atom redstack when
redstack??
hi deivid
Y'all not on the beta branch?? 
O_O
i see all good
i see nothing
wow
goofy ass prints
seems pretty good
damn
I feel smoll
my prints are wrong and i dont want fix them cuz of bugg
like this small
Aww
also i will need to do a proper vman run. last time i fucked up and only did 89 portals
hi when do i know when i hit the 90% of sampling? and d
i can turn of the royal sampler prayer
check construction
I remember unlocking sampling, excitedly going to gmush and getting a whopping 3 caps/hr lol
Go to construction skill interface
on your char skill lvl tab
autoreview also has a really good overview
oh right i hope i dont forget to remove royal sampler this time
is it inclusive the royal sampler or without?
yeah it's really gamechanging
holy shit my prints are bad
shadow on 80% sample rate
can see everything. all sources of sample size + how much you need before you can unequip prayer
i know its additive xp nerf but if i resample today why not
shd i resample and waste my multi
if you know you get better prints why not
ok
multi from mole?
i dont see anything diff
noob
i know
New mega?
wha are the maple logs for? ive been working on my samples a lot all week, havnt seen them anywhere
yea
out side of hole
they give us this but don't give us mega-flygon smh
Cool ty for spoiler
green salt is rank 16, why should i level it up more?
yes
we need mega excadrill
it would be a monster in competitive ahah
prolly top tier
oh definitely yeah
since exca is already A- to A in OU
NEVER auto-refine GREEN
Wallbreaker, revengekiller and pivot at the same time lol
ALWAYS rank-up GREEN
is there a reason for this? so should i rank up red,orange,blue,green and auto purple and null?
ALWAYS rank-up RED and GREEN and auto everything else
red and green are your main salts you rank up others based of them 2
orange and blue don't count as much?
Chinas lurking 

Always rank up nullo salt for more nullo salt
You are making +2excess per cycle which means you can barely craft anything without it running out. Green salts are also used to rank up the Kill per Kill big bubble so you'll need a lot of them to push that to atom range.
they do but they depend on the other rank
worst advice
Hrmm. Maybe thts why am broke on nullo 
Uhhh
Yall saw nothing
because I think I've been told at the start that I should be always in rank up for all salts until there are rank 100 or somth

check power per cycle and what you need on the next salt cycle
Anyone else having issues with the constellation at W3 Refrigeration Station? Need to AFK for 16+ hrs on 3 players. Used two 24hr candies and it didnt count
Spreading misinformation 
try to keep power per cycle higher than the cost of the next salt you get asked so you can have + excess
instead of negative
i'm just constantly ranking up everything on my 2nd acct, it's fine 
if something is run out when i need it just wait until it levels next time
not sure if this is good advice for new players though
They should make "!salt-locked" command ngl
I mean that's what i've been told
Has the next ballot come
next time we see is guys with 7 lvl green 14 purp 16 nullo
Oh wait
!refinery
follkey more like funkii
💀
!refinery
Well fuk
The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.
Why do you hate me
he was sassy about it
the ai are revolting
The next PvZ game. Trust
that shit is a flamethrower
We got flamethrowers under water before gta6 🔥
do you think playing this game on LSD would unlock some deep rooted information about being good at the game
Failed
Nah, you'd probably rethink playing the game in general though.
99+ damn
Literally all the vials after w3 
o_O
microdosage apparently makes you better at math
yeah-
sure...
i remember someone mentioning a form of bell curve where you get better at certain types of thinking until the dosage is increased so much that it falls off
not like it doesn't have side effects
I mean it does it fast yeah, microdosing is at max 20micrograms
Cool
First effects can start at 75micrograms
common recreationnal is 100-150, heavy is around 300
I gotta see this re-sample footage 

how much is 1 piece of paper (jk i know it varies)
ahah I think there is:
100u 150u 200u and 300u for sizes that you can find easily
u being micrograms
on lsd specifically?
yeah
you sound like quite the connoisseur
There's also pro-drugs like 1P-LSD which tend to hit alittle bit less and last a bit longer
Hi shadow
I've had a funny childhood
I saw u typing
Honetly LSD is one of the tamest/kinder ones
i think it might have been regarding alcohol i heard about this the first time, and got it mixed up with stories of developers/programmers using acid
It's wild but you won't become addicted to it
but i'd imagine the principal would apply to mostly everything
I think in some countries psychiatrists are microdosing LSD and MDMA for depression and concentration
to their patients
hell naw
the only actual related research i found that touch upon this is: Yerkes-Dodson Law
yeah there is a bell curve regarding your cognitive abilities with alcohol consumption but never heard of it with lsd
Hell yeah 
yeah sorry, i might have been mistaken there. although microdosing is supposed to have this effect, but maybe not for the same properties
quick question what does the pantheon shrine do
Uge
They have some effects but they have opposite functionning
Alchohol is a depressant of the nervous system (rest and digest) while LSD in most forms is a stimulant of it
nopers
I've defintily seen it used for depression and concentration, not sure about math for lsd
Yeppers 
microdosing is just not very researched yet
bro is sponsored by big LSD, you got a discount code? 
hell naw
yeah when it comes to math it does not make sense that lsd affects it positively, but i'm not sure when it comes to microdosage
It's too frowned upon and not very legal
Hell yeah 
not happening sir :p
I'd wager LSD would negatively impact math (as it impacts and fuck with anything that is conceptual)
psychedelics are p2w lol
ahah, I wish
Shrooms are the funny too
so ur not doing it? 😔
well the whole point of microdosing on lsd is that it doesn't give any psychedelic effect
still can fuck you up
I know, but even at low doses I don't think math would be better
Goddammit you win. I got no counter lmao
microdosing? barely.
gg.
It doesn't fuck you up at all tbh
For star signs like Breedabilli (breedable spd) and Gordonius Major (Cooking SPD) do i have to be aligned to them all the time on my active character or just when I'm checking those stations?
yeah my point is that it would do nothing, lol
Gg
noob :p
if you do it over time it does
it' sjust that I'm very unsure of the effect on math beyond better concentration lol
Pro :v
coping
for those skills specifically I think they always work in the background and don't "accumulate" progress like say summoning. so my guess would be that you would need to always equip them
then that would be "time" that is fucking you up lol
@west pilot wsp broski 
microdosing is defined by taking doses that are a fraction of what gives you the normal psychedelic effect
I mean yes because your brain acclimates to it very fast and it serotonin receptors
but otherwise not very much
it's pretty much just a placebo
idk watching this drugged ass idleon players
they need microdosing to feel smth
drugs are cool come on don't be like that
bruh
Don't do drugs kid 
drugs 
LSD has not been proven to be physicocally toxic or neurotoxic so yeah it' smostly nothing
especially in microdosing, but the problem is that after the 3rd time in a row it will have even less effects lol
i inject my lsd every morning before idling hard
drugs 
Man I'm going to w1-w2 chat before hotair
yeah lsd is one of the least toxic drugs
Dippin time 
just dont do drugs lol
If there are 3 to not do they are:
Heroin, Meth, Opioids in general
Or just don't do any at all :/
i know people and friends that do shrooms and stuff
For sure yes
and yeah i can tell
They truely are
yeah we're so fucking happy, we just have to play IdleOn to cope
vaping unironically the cringest of them all 100%
yeah fuck vaping
it's like you are too pussy to smoke a cigarette but still wanna look cool
Alchemy is my coping mechanism
you mean combustion is better than vaporizing?
Hermetic Alchemy or Gnostic?
99%s 😔
bigger samples 
Vapes are literally smoking but "edgy"
setting it up 
The main problem with vaping is that we don't have enough studies to see if it's better or worse
It might very well be worse because the particles are thinner and go deeper, but we won't know for at least 10 years
no it's baby smoking
and also it's just a way for the tobacco corps to touch the young lol
you get fucked anyways
that is a very valid point. even dry herb vape, right?
it's the teenage turing test
simple solution is to just do nothing~
it's like you want to die inside slow or faster
we have a lot of studies lol. vaping fucks you up
Easier solution, just do alchemy
stay home and grind
I don't know I'm not informed a lot on it
cause the amount of dopamine you get from any of it all, is actually such a small amount that it doesn't even help
I studied medicinal chemistry
Couldn't say, I'm not knowlegdable enough, never got into it
hell it harms more then it helps as its built to be addicting making you more stressed
where do you guys source your information again
idleon wiki
Hmm. I wonder why I have lung cancer now? 
with my eyes and the idleon wiki
tends to be my own brain or I Google smth
bruh my school keeps on having vape talks
!wiki
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I tend to only get the raw numbers tho, never the opinion shite
The thing is that it's not only the nicotine that's addictive in smoking
Nor only the other chemicals
It's aslo the gesture, the habits, the social thingy (smoking a cig with your coworkers during a timeout)
The thing with vaping is that it's more accesible, easier to use, also you don't have to finish your vape unlike cigs, and it hits youngs HARD
Information is just searching the web, checking multiple sources EVEN those that contradicts what you think
at least coffee and shite is cheaper overall and gives you something productive
but they dont mess u up more then vapes
Coffee doesn't mess you up as hard as energetics those are fucking bad
yeah and it's too nerd friendly. it doesn't make you cough or grow chesthair. you suck on a plastic sausage and taste strawberry
energetics can fuck you up if you do all day, but yeah coffee is mild
how to get accuracy
@thorny zinc
Close one eye if you have a bow
caffeine is just a way to trick ur body that you have more energy then you actually do
energetics like energy drinks or vapes me dum?
drinks
unironically a nice way to get rid of fat if you do it in moderation
kinds necessary sometimes if you have a job and not 24/7 access to a bed
well energy drinks are fine as long as u dont drink to much
I mean it's a stimulant of the nervous system so yeah it does make you have more energy but you consume a lot of things too
or if you're gonna do something intensive
run? right.....
no all it does is tricks your brain into thinking it has far more, which makes you use more but you don't actually get more
it's why there's a crash at the end of it
i mean at that moment you do
i'm more dependent on coffee than nicotine/weed. quitting coffee left me with constant headache for two weeks
later yo pay it
theirs caffine crash?
no that's false energy
if you don't eat something to make up for it yeah
damn never heard of that
No no, I assure you coffee is a stimulant of the nervous system specifically the Sympathetic nervous system
it is not
do a 40km walk with a energetic or two and without
your brain aims to keep a certain level of energy at all times, caffeine tricks ur brain into having far more and thus you use more. when it wears off you have far less energy then you should have
you tell me if it's false energy
you actually get 0 energy for doing it, you just use the energy you already have
but caffenated drinks ussaly contan high sugar
usually
also that's artifical sugar normally, which is a bit worse for the energy conversion
and a lot of companies even just lie ab it
just take chunk of sugar
frfr
like a horse
it makes your cells produce more energy because it stimulates the sympathetic system and that system is the one responsible for fight or flight in physiology (not psychiatry)
It does eat up your body ressources though
i feel stupid here
so while technically you don't get more energy, your body uses more and it gives the effects of having more, coffee is not just a neurological effect
the body resources is just soon to be energy, I always treat it as its gonna be energy in the futurr
It's not really the same
the actual effect is the same, and the outcome
you have less energy then ur brain likes to have
ofc depends on your diet
body ressources are for exemple Sodium, which is not at all energy, sodium is used for neurotransmettors for exemple
that is a thing that is depleted when using coffee for exemple (or anything for that matter, not having enough K in your body make syou just die)
idk how my friend is surviving on 4 monsters a day
they arent
that or they're eating a lot of unhealthy shite
they're slowly dying from the inside basically
he also eat unhealty shit and sleeps 2-4h per day
your brain doesn't "like" any level of energy, it uses what it needs on the moment, the thing is that coffee makes the brain feel like it needs to use more
watch him on a few years
i think hes speed running health
he will pay those sooner or later
how do i help him
kill him at that point
he wants to be fat but wants to get unchoped
well I can tell you there's a minimum and I tend to reach that a lot
(I pass out a lot, normally from lack of eating or low body sugar)
lmao
thats.... not good
not even medical issues, I just...don't eat much
I'd suggest you get check for metabolic disease and diabetis
when I do eat, I eat a lot at once, but yeah
at worst I have hyper thyroidism or whatever it's called
supliments perhaps?
metabolic disease tend to act like that, also certain medications do it
really really high metabolism
idk spelling
That does play in it yes
i think it has to be bad enough that they get a "reality check" from emerging health issues. nobody takes stuff like this seriously until they hit the limit
Exactly he needs to hit a wall
it's hard for them to see
it's always been with me and no ones said I have anything else so I just think it's that
my brother has a eating disorder
true but it kinda sad tho
Are we talking about world 4 🤔
and it took him several years to acknowledge it
Metabolic stuff is pretty hard to diagnose they often go undiagnosed for years
no wall can stop him
yeah
cooking
cooking and foods
frfr
Turkey something idk
yeah as they need to basically track how you digest stuff which they can only really do with a longer hospital stay
I have had once I was there for a week due to almost losing a finger, but that's ab it
get well soon i guess
I doubt they were checking anything like that tho
Yeah and even then, tes test needed are advanced
You mean gfood?
yeah and this was like 13 years ago now
prolly not if they didn't ave to do with your finger becaus ethey are costy
both
Boost and gfood?
all 3 then
I think I had quite high bleeding? at least back then, but that's the only thing I can think of that could be related
Boost food, heal food, and gfood?
That is a symptom that appear in some metabolic disease but also ina lot fo others, I'm Not a doctor so I couldn't tell you
yeah it's too common to just diagnose it immediately
guys giving medical advice on idleon discord server is a bad idea
I've done a lil digging myself, hence why I know some of it, but too low info
just go see a doctor if it is possible/doesn't cost you too much
idleon players are lobotomized anyways

UK here so it's free~
we will take what we can get, so unfortunately you're our gp doctor now
Yay
yeah we are all fucking dumbasses. go see a professional if you have problems
I did a few years of med school but I didn't finish so uhh yeah
better then none
go see a real doctor guys
which I assume is 99.9% of people here
broken leg? just fix it with duck tape
I thought yo ass was john💀
yet to get a broken bone!
I wish I was this charismatic and sexy man
at worst almost cut off ligaments
At worst you die because your boen doesn't heal and your body continuously sends calcium and profenid and it gives your a blood imbalance which make syour blood acid
i died a few times but nbd
eh that's a worst case scenario!
I did technically die because my heart stopped too lol
(there is definitely worse)
Average idleon player when they die
God: oh you're one of them. Send him back down
I mean, at worse it at worse

