midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[minor scroll]

go to sleep

[thorny zinc]

nah

[true hamlet]

does he know

[thorny zinc]

[true hamlet]

the moment you close your eyes, the game will find a way to kill you in TD

[thorny zinc]

real

[true hamlet]

eyes on the screen all the way fr

[thorny zinc]

lava will come personally and say die noob in the chat

[robust marsh]

Yo samurai guy

[west pilot]

either xp or dna

or do some shiny/breedability if not done with that

[narrow stratus]

Is there even anyone who has shiny bonusses at 20?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[neon smelt]

plenty

[narrow stratus]

Dang. Here I was thinking I was doing fine with my 9s/10s

[neon smelt]

some have all shinies at lvl 20

[thorny zinc]

its not that bad but still annoying

[neon smelt]

you are doing great

[narrow stratus]

🥰

[true hamlet]

hi johs

Shadow, you're chronically online, even when you're outside lol

[neon smelt]

outside?

[thorny zinc]

wrong. i just came back home xd

[true hamlet]

Shadow lend me some DR I wanna hit 160x

[thorny zinc]

buy autoloot

[true hamlet]

and I don't want to play the game to get it

autoloot means I gotta log on

[neon smelt]

do you have meal and ribbon maxed?

[true hamlet]

no, not even close lol

I just got my first t16

[neon smelt]

damn imagine the f2p possibilities then

[west pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/job-jumpscare-job-application-job-meme-job-jumpscare-gif-5102454363566376023

[true hamlet]

if you take francis'/follkey's dr, then remove all the pack stuff like cosmetics, then you end up with like 180-190x dr

[thorny zinc]

dw when uni starts i wont be that active anymore

[neon smelt]

that's insane but you gotta remember that we cannot get a 1000 shells/hour for cakes

[unborn dome]

yo where the hell did a godly candy appear in my inventory

[true hamlet]

indeed, but we can always dream

[neon smelt]

like only removing the direct dr bundles is not enough

[true hamlet]

I'm only at 500k cakes and t16/107 peachring

[neon smelt]

I'm only at like 30k in inventory lol

I should do that but ac crystal stacking

[true hamlet]

sanctum could use some pushing, owl has a little more to offer, not done with grimoire/farming either

160-165x is definitely doable, just not yet for me since I'm quite timegated

[neon smelt]

I have all those left to do too

[thorny zinc]

really wild to see f2p players with such a high dr

[true hamlet]

I got +1 crop today, so that's 218/230 now not bovinae hoarding yet so missing some dr from dr skull and crop depot bonus multi

[strange prism]

name tag op

[true hamlet]

hehe me and Johs beat harieiv's "max" dr for f2p, now's your turn to hit "max" for p2w fr

[thorny zinc]

i have a lot more to work on for that

also going for 40 sanctum will be really fun

[true hamlet]

I'm only at s38

I'm lazy as f

[thorny zinc]

38???????

[neon smelt]

do you have any leaderboard spots jiof?

[thorny zinc]

man you really need some help

[true hamlet]

no I don't think so, closest is probably highest xp cog lol

I am not going to balloon spam cooking

[thorny zinc]

even lou is 37 (and he really likes clicking)

[thorny zinc]

ofc you say that smh

[true hamlet]

reminder for you to hit 281x dr

[thorny zinc]

hariev quit right?

[true hamlet]

yeah

[thorny zinc]

oof

[neon smelt]

but doesn't he exclude all gemshop/event items too?

[true hamlet]

yeah pretty much

it's a nice guage anyways

I prefer Sashrami's

[thorny zinc]

can you send me that sheet too please

[true hamlet]

which

[west pilot]

no

[thorny zinc]

gotta add it to the guide

[thorny zinc]

this one

[mint quartz]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354
this?

[neon smelt]

aren't you great in excel and made guides already? if you have time you should make some f2p focused guides. I'm sure there is a surprisingly big silent minority of f2p enjoyers

[true hamlet]

lol, maybe not to such an extent

Calculating max reasonable f2p dr would be kinda fun

[thorny zinc]

we could prob work a bit more to the dr guide

tho im bad with formulas

[true hamlet]

I've just been taking the big guys' dr and doing calculations with those numbers

[sleek pollen]

the 'big silent minority' is making a not so f2p friendly (more not for early game) not so say name Jeff Meister

[west pilot]

not like most guides are focused on p2w tbh

[true hamlet]

Start learning

[thorny zinc]

thats the thing. im lazy

[neon smelt]

and for once set the "max" to br actual max. screw if it "makes people sad" because they are so far away. just see what the actual limits of f2p are

[neon smelt]

huh

[sleek pollen]

sadly enough these limits keep increasing as time passes 🤷‍♂️

[neon smelt]

so update sheets

[sleek pollen]

[neon smelt]

not like that's fixed for regular guides

[true hamlet]

Don't I always do things to limits to make people unhappy

[neon smelt]

only difference is that they tend to cater to the majority of players who spend money

[true hamlet]

My crystal spawn chance calculator literally defaults to 500 golden sixes stamp and 34 crystal shrine lmao

[neon smelt]

yes exactly so therefore the next step to inspire people would be to provide them with the tools needed

[true hamlet]

My talent max guide also puts it as 460 instead of the more reasonable 456/457

[neon smelt]

xd come on now man

[sleek pollen]

he the f2p master too

[robust marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/it-crowd-the-it-crowd-declaring-war-denholm-it-crowd-denholm-gif-25251670

[neon smelt]

you mean crystallin stamp tho?

[robust marsh]

You didn't say hi samuraiguy

[thorny zinc]

tbh i should add more experienced ppl to the guide so we can make it really good

but idk who would really want that

[sleek pollen]

Elle samurai did not say 'hi' back

so fucking joever mista squid man evolving into Cthulhu

[thorny zinc]

and after i saw the comments about the guide so far im starting to regret doing this

[robust marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/cthulhu-rises-cutulubr-gif-18245094

[thorny zinc]

thats aod not him

[sleek pollen]

leaving us for the endgame peeps I see

[sleek pollen]

thats his son anyway

[robust marsh]

Aod is a friend of mine

[thorny zinc]

dw most of the endgame players dont really care

gatekeeping is wild

[sleek pollen]

We are the new endgame.
-# me when I lie

[thorny zinc]

but i slowly understand why they are not bothering helping and gatekeep

[sleek pollen]

yeah

look at me, wondering what I can do on Idleon, playing lol

[thorny zinc]

almost ragequit hearing feedback 3 times already

[neon smelt]

what guide are you working on?

[sleek pollen]

a lil sheet he making

[thorny zinc]

a complete guide from w1 to w7

collecting all guides into one shee

[robust marsh]

Leme see

[thorny zinc]

updating what its oudated and so on

[thorny zinc]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y1-SMEM6jFZPfJ3qQHKFHighqB_i4LpI_kowPwetgcY/edit?usp=sharing

[sleek pollen]

complete but when w7 is released we gotta reupdate it if it change anything and everything

[thorny zinc]

[sleek pollen]

welp my urf started cya peeps

[neon smelt]

doesn't it basically already exist tho? or what does your guide focus on

[thorny zinc]

it does? the only sheet i know its the one from !guide command but its kinda outdated

[solemn leaf]

Do you get more dna for higher tier eggs? Or just use the eggs right away

[thorny zinc]

nope. egg rarity doesnt matter for dna

[neon smelt]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558

[west pilot]

higher eggs is just for exp or more pet power

[thorny zinc]

oh that one yeah

[robust marsh]

Me see all my friends name there but it's good well done shad

[thorny zinc]

most of the ppl dont even know how to check that

[robust marsh]

Ye me get lost in those every time

[thorny zinc]

ig if its really useless i could just stop doing it

but ppl really dont know about it which is wierd

[neon smelt]

yeah then good idea. if you wanna help people progress world1 through 6 I just don't think most people care to follow a guide for that as it takes little time anyway. but I like the idea of a sheet that functions as a "general IT" with links to guides and tldrs

[robust marsh]

Keep it up don't give up

[strange prism]

it also links back to text made in 2022-23

which is most likely outdated at this point

[neon smelt]

just make it super easy to navigate and I'm sure people will use it as a "hub" to locate guides. use sections like on IT, give a tldr and then link full guide with credit

[thorny zinc]

oh god 1497T

[strange prism]

the skill category doesnt even have passive cards on it cause its so old

[thorny zinc]

yeah thats what im trying to do

actually good thing . i forgot to actually link td guide

[robust marsh]

I will help ya in w7 so I can get a special thanks from you

[thorny zinc]

lol

also in case you guys see guides that i didnt credit ppl let me know. i dont want to get credit for anything that its not mine

[neon smelt]

griffy gambit

[robust marsh]

its so confusing that i know all of them exept 2 and i am only knowing about this now

[thorny zinc]

lol

[robust marsh]

you should advertise this more

[sullen hill]

where is that yellow circle bastard

[zenith hare]

void :3

[west lake]

dumb question, is afk kill rate capped by spawn rate? like, if im 1 shotting eveything does getting more damage increase kill rate at all?

[zenith hare]

ignore multi kill, yeah damage does nothing

and it's really easy to reach the base kph cap

you can increase it via other means, namely afk%, mob respawn, and move speed

[west lake]

that makes sense, thank you :)

[thorny zinc]

also just realised that !guide command its more for w3-w5 so would be nice to replace the old sheet with this one when its done. having a command with a complete guide might be better imo.

[real torrent]

shadow i have hundreds of thousands of iron/copper/plat do i smelt them cuz smelting looks like it takes alot of time

[thorny zinc]

always have something in forge smelting ig

so you could yeah

[minor scroll]

Soon

[thorny zinc]

1237T rn

i need to do some changes when are 10 enemies left

[real torrent]

do i have to unlock star signs in all characters or 1 is enough cuz i didnt unlock any yet

[thorny zinc]

most of the star signs will require more than 1 characters

[minor scroll]

Spam lightning

[thorny zinc]

nah i will need to add 4 more party starters with ABBBB and poisonic elders

[real torrent]

how much time u have been playing this for

[thorny zinc]

um one sec

[minor scroll]

And AAAAA zap

[real torrent]

huh

[minor scroll]

8h prob

[thorny zinc]

thunder tower is always B trait

[minor scroll]

Nah 4h

[real torrent]

[minor scroll]

For damage

[thorny zinc]

4h yeah

[strange prism]

[thorny zinc]

its actually a lot faster than i expected

maxing meals made a great difference

i could actually try to go for 200 on all atp but am i that crazy?

[west pilot]

210

[minor scroll]

200 and play reverse

[west pilot]

how are the towers looking?

[thorny zinc]

220 i think its what endgamers are going for rn

[zenith hare]

the answer is yes

[strange prism]

220 seems doable ||just ignore w5||

[thorny zinc]

119 poisonic, 62 void, 118 kraken, 117 party, 122 stormcaller, 123 freeze

[thorny zinc]

smh w5 is really BAD

[minor scroll]

278 poison when

[west pilot]

how much BR?

[thorny zinc]

12T

[west pilot]

i should do some cog clicking

missing some br there

[thorny zinc]

i actually dont know how to improve it anymore. other than waiting for cons levels and trying to level up buildings

[west pilot]

how bob looking?

[thorny zinc]

10k

[strange prism]

theres arcade prisma % if you have carp prismad

[thorny zinc]

working on 99% now then i will go back to bob

[thorny zinc]

right i need to max that as well

2h till alchemy arc starts again

[west pilot]

is there any way to check the crystal progress on the map on IT?

[strange prism]

looks like theres plans for it

maybe

[thorny zinc]

probably not (blind ah man)

[west pilot]

Meh a bit slow

[thorny zinc]

noob

[west pilot]

you still on beans

💀

[thorny zinc]

wrong

im doing td

[west pilot]

did you finish beans

[thorny zinc]

ofc ||not||

[strange prism]

waat why do all of mine say 1

[west pilot]

[west pilot]

noob

[thorny zinc]

you placed the crystal on a different game

[west pilot]

it's funny how most of w5 mobs are set at 1.2

💀

[strange prism]

might be cause my bubos been inactive in lab for a bit

[west pilot]

what lvl?

[thorny zinc]

[west pilot]

yeah

[inner egret]

still doesn't work for me

[strange prism]

lab? not sure havent logged in yet

its not enough

[west pilot]

what lvl you left it¿

[strange prism]

theyre 447

[strange prism]

uh.. wanna say ~410 or os

[west pilot]

maybe a few more days

[strange prism]

idk its gonna be a while

[thorny zinc]

is there someone here that doesnt have the equinox fill rate bundle?

[strange prism]

Not sure if I should keep pushing lab or farm out tesseract upgrade

is there a lab level sheet to get an idea for how long it would take to hit 500-550?

[wraith timber]

me i suppose

[thorny zinc]

can you show me the equinox fill rate breakdown rq?

from IT

[wraith timber]

hold on

will be pretty garbage but wait

[thorny zinc]

dw mine is trash too but its just about one thing

[strange prism]

[rocky token]

lets say i carry 400 logs normally, with this i can carry 500;
if i chop woods and get 500 then teleport to town, will it stay as 500 or will i drop the extra ones?

[wraith timber]

wait ehat? @thorny zinc

[thorny zinc]

oh yeah makes sense

occido just explained me. 60 is base without pack

[wraith timber]

i dont think i have bundle

[thorny zinc]

90 is with it

[wraith timber]

oh

so pack is essentially a multi?

[zenith hare]

you stay above the cap

[west pilot]

I have 100.9% with 470 lab

[strange prism]

bruh what

[rocky token]

where is crabs?

[robust marsh]

w2 1st fising map

[rocky token]

thanks

[strange prism]

yea I probably just need to level tesseract then

[thorny zinc]

mine is 45 lvl

far away from 100% tho

[strange prism]

id need lv50

was hoping lab could carry, but the xp requirements jump pretty quick

I need ~3-4 hours per level

[thorny zinc]

yeah and you need to get 10 levels to actually get the bonus

[strange prism]

eh? how are you at 100

[thorny zinc]

as the talent gives crit per 10 lab levels

[west pilot]

100.9

Talent lvl(? Idk

[strange prism]

oh im dumb you said 470 lab

thought we had same lab level

[strange prism]

that mega crit

[thorny zinc]

How to get crit guide

[strange prism]

alright well im at 140m/hr on lab xp, should have 100% before w7 at least

[west pilot]

That's like idk ,3-4 days

Can be less

[strange prism]

[west pilot]

I get 453 today

[strange prism]

idk the xp jumps quick

[west pilot]

.

When i did mine it take like a week or so i believe

From 420 or smth

[strange prism]

really?

[west pilot]

Around there yeah

[strange prism]

its nearly 4 hours for this upgrade alone, take another 22 of them at the same xp (which it wont be), thats already a week alone

[mint quartz]

double xp claim

[west pilot]

10d according to this

[strange prism]

mm

just gotta pray for constant 2x

||what even gives that 2x||

ah PO

[west pilot]

P.O(?

Yeah i think so

[strange prism]

so need to wait for 36hr+

[west pilot]

Like ladle claims

[robust marsh]

as like critical hit chance

[past inlet]

Any tips on boossting accuracy?

[robust marsh]

say no more put it together

[mint quartz]

po, biggie hour card and afk expexp bubble

if u card doubler on biggie hour i think that puts you at the cap? iirc

but idk if thats worth over another card that pushes ur lab xp higher

[thorny zinc]

for AC xd

[strange prism]

the statues skill xp too

[robust marsh]

hmm i only read crit guide needed

[strange prism]

oh its only skill xp

well dam

might as well farm some w3 then while bubos in lab

[mint quartz]

i think generic skill xp doesnt work for lab

[minor scroll]

When is next hh

[west pilot]

Indeed

[faint crystal]

i think ac needs to be sitting in lab

[strange prism]

ik the gfood doesnt at least

[past inlet]

thanks

[faint matrix]

Alchemy

[strange prism]

decent amount of xp sources still though

[mint quartz]

ye im not sure about statues but i dont think they do as well

[strange prism]

unfortunately correct

[past inlet]

Also where do I get roles for stuff I've done?

[fresh parrot]

aod you got lvl50 atoms yet?

[strange prism]

Yes

[wraith timber]

gfood skill xp doesnt work? crazy
it doesnt affect lab xp thats for sure

[fresh parrot]

gyat, what dust/hr rates and how many moons

[strange prism]

some gfood does, just not the one literally made for skill xp

grilled cheese and dumplings (mostly dumplings) increase xp a lot

[mint quartz]

like discord roles?

[strange prism]

ooo I dont remember the rates but it was ~200 moons lol

[past inlet]

yup

[thorny zinc]

soon

[strange prism]

I was only at 42 atoms so getting 8 levels as a bit of a jump

[fresh parrot]

jesus christ

[mint quartz]

you need to yap more until you get chat levels
if u want access to specific channels then click this on the top left of the server

[vernal hinge]

are w4 upgrade stones better or w5

[minor scroll]

W5 100%

[strange prism]

im at 200-300b on all dusts so it was around there

[west pilot]

💀

[past inlet]

is the bandit bob for yapping not finishing his questline?

[strange prism]

it just increases as you talk more

[mint quartz]

yes thats the discord level not related to ingame stuff

[past inlet]

fair enough

[vernal hinge]

how can i get rare eggs?

[strange prism]

got curious so tested

[cosmic cairn]

That would be sick though, some in game progression tied directly to a discord addon

[lean cape]

When you get to a certajn level of banit bob you can change it to diffrwnt icons like poltergeist, clammy, bobjoe pickle

[cosmic cairn]

Just wait longer

[strange prism]

• 560k dumplings and 1.23m grilled cheese
• Neither
• 560k dumplings only
• 1.23m grilled cheese only

Lab 101

• Get 1 mil dumplings

[thorny zinc]

smh i need to farm dumplings now

[true hamlet]

indeed

[vernal hinge]

if i wait longer do they give more?

[strange prism]

I'm just waiting till they can be candied, I hate farming w6

[mint quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-23451158

[lean cape]

Yes

[minor scroll]

Gstack dumpling

[lean cape]

Alot more

[thorny zinc]

this car should leave my dumplings

[strange prism]

you could aim for like 2-3m dumplings and setup for carry cap then remove all the carry cap stuff to have bigger dumplings

[thorny zinc]

doesnt sound that bad

[strange prism]

maybe gstack dumplings possible

[thorny zinc]

the only bad thing is waiting for dumplings

[strange prism]

yea.. its not fun

Not even sure how im at 560k tbh

[minor scroll]

Prob dk statue farm

[mint quartz]

wait till ac can reach minichiefs 💀

[strange prism]

looks like colo as well

[cosmic cairn]

Candy for Gold food? Active is better right, it's just too slow?

[strange prism]

Na I got small minis

[mint quartz]

active will be better but if u have candy stockpile u can use your active time doing something else

[strange prism]

Its technically better to be active, but could be considered a bad use of the time

It all depends on youre account progression though, you'd need good rates to justify candying w5+

[floral kiln]

will it end sometime? i just wanted to reach round 200...

[strange prism]

reminds me I need to go back and candy grilled cheese again

[floral kiln]

im getting 0 damage

[strange prism]

turn off auto

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

hi deivid

[floral kiln]

XD

im so stupid

[thorny zinc]

dw aod im not schizo

[strange prism]

smh might have to go to w6

[thorny zinc]

did you killed amarok yet?

[strange prism]

ofc not

[minor scroll]

Hi kona

Hi shadow

[zenith hare]

bye

[thorny zinc]

then what are you doing in w6? just go in w7 smh

[fresh parrot]

10 more levels with my pitiful exp multi...

[thorny zinc]

hi ash

[strange prism]

yuck

bubos got all my afk stuff how can I play this game

[strange prism]

I prefer to uninstall

[thorny zinc]

just buy all the packs again

[minor scroll]

Yes buy for me

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-meme-no-cat-no-cat-nuh-uh-nuh-uh-gif-5478596456695677807

[minor scroll]

I need that dr cape

[thorny zinc]

dr cape is useless when you dontt have anything to multi xd

[minor scroll]

Grr

[strange prism]

smh candied the wrong mob

[vernal hinge]

Hey shadow yesterday i got a few fractal feathers i got 4

[strange prism]

time to farm sandy pots for the first time in 6 months

[fresh parrot]

22k till dumplings beanstalk

[thorny zinc]

[strange prism]

surprised you havent ran into the time issue yet

[minor scroll]

Imagine white screen

[candid creek]

Course you're here

NYA GUESS WHAT GUESS WHAT

[fresh parrot]

hi

[hexed cairn]

w6 is free

[strange prism]

lv760

[minor scroll]

Wow 116% crit rate

[quiet crane]

@strange prism 400 today if i dont forget when i get home (397 rn)

[candid creek]

I DID A THING I DID A THING

[uneven mirage]

Flexing in #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 ?

[hexed cairn]

[candid creek]

get ready for more, cause I unlocked green AND BEAT THE FIRST TWO ENDLESS SUMMONING ROUNDS!

[vernal hinge]

does this mean you YES OR YES crit?

[candid creek]

Crazy how fast summoning has been the past few days, and that according to others it's gonna slow down a LOT

[hexed cairn]

why do people think im flexing. ashy is here so am chilling here

[minor scroll]

Finish the stones

[minor scroll]

Huh

[thorny zinc]

dw you can flex too we dont mind

[uneven mirage]

Nah just wanted to see how this channel was doing and saw you haha ! You can flex as you want

[strange prism]

how dare you flex, jail time

[candid creek]

What's wrong with being joyous about your accomplishments!

[hexed cairn]

[fresh parrot]

by round like 180 sure

[hexed cairn]

can't catch me

[thorny zinc]

10 minutes in gen chat

[candid creek]

Second modifier was the lane thing, so annoying

[fresh parrot]

is fine, pretty sure you can literally kill mobs with spikes rn

[candid creek]

What an evil sentence

[strange prism]

No, how could you

[thorny zinc]

XD

[candid creek]

What no

[minor scroll]

Sentence to #player-sug-discuss

[thorny zinc]

NEVER

[hexed cairn]

nah how to tilt gen chat is showing them this

[fresh parrot]

nub

[thorny zinc]

give me

[hexed cairn]

mine

[fresh parrot]

gib half

I am currently missing 15× dr from yumi + gcake combo

[minor scroll]

Whoa

[hexed cairn]

am i crazy that i still want a better bow

[fresh parrot]

which is probably enough to push me over 100 with the multipliers

[hexed cairn]

i have almost a perfect bow

[fresh parrot]

if it isn't 80 wp warpspeed 50% Dust misc bow, keep looking

[strange prism]

casual 8k gfood %

[hexed cairn]

but i wanna see if i can push 140/11

[minor scroll]

Thats 8% golden food bonus

[candid creek]

I can't tell if this is serious or not

[hexed cairn]

oh yeah after finishing WW. this actually looks amazing cthul

[fresh parrot]

god, farming at 70× feels so much nicer for gfood finally bearable

[candid creek]

You get more gfood bonus from the STAMP

[minor scroll]

Messy table

[candid creek]

Whoaaaaa so cool

[thorny zinc]

me when i try to find the 12512512 upgrade of damage

[candid creek]

Kinda like summoning but bigger and more

[minor scroll]

That number again

[hexed cairn]

just upgrade all

[thorny zinc]

real

[fresh parrot]

me getting ready to never see this screen for decades after I get atom lvl20

[thorny zinc]

shh

[fresh parrot]

jk I need that exp multi

[hexed cairn]

but nyan. shiny pet farming for meal %

[thorny zinc]

WHAAAAAT

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-cute-gif-13105127215766961484

[strange prism]

oo an update?

[thorny zinc]

morojo is cooking

[minor scroll]

Clean

[fresh parrot]

true, I haven't been active ww lately
my red mush still about to hit lvl20 soon, the other meal bonus% left after that xd

[strange prism]

noticed it was down this morning never checked to see what changed though, that looks nice

[sharp scarab]

is there any updated vman speedrun route

[minor scroll]

Just use that 95 portals route

[shut hull]

I just do the route where I progress through each world and kill the boss. Idleon route

[sharp scarab]

i dont even know what that is

[thorny zinc]

exactly when i will start my alchemy arc again

[fresh parrot]

we have similar amount of upgrades surely you're just being passive with ww

[candid creek]

I just realised

Well I didn't but I'm telling you now

[minor scroll]

Search yt

[candid creek]

The next summoning boss is so far

[strange prism]

alchemy arch

[thorny zinc]

archemy

[fresh parrot]

literally twins

[candid creek]

My best map is mama trolls and it's gonna take a while especially with everyone in lab for a while to get there

[strange prism]

pretty coooool man

[minor scroll]

Golem jail?

[sharp scarab]

that guy starts it off in w6 i literally can not do that

[thorny zinc]

16m and im not done with TD 💀

[fresh parrot]

yea kinda, I just decided to move to golems cuz I got 10,000m exp without being specced into villager exp

[thorny zinc]

really nice

[minor scroll]

Just invent routre, idk ur progression

[real torrent]

shadow how do i increase my dmg

[fresh parrot]

goodluck

[thorny zinc]

getting more damage

[candid creek]

And I ain't got anyone in maps so

[strange prism]

I like the class discount and discount tag thing too, gonna help with annoying ones like rice cake bubbble

[candid creek]

It'll take until W7 comes out :3

[real torrent]

i can use my candies and get to w6 but i dont have enough dmg for boss

[minor scroll]

Get

[strange prism]

what character are you using

[real torrent]

bb

[minor scroll]

Total damage cards

[strange prism]

thats why

[fresh parrot]

ban speedrun any% ahh

[strange prism]

used DK or Bubo

[minor scroll]

Use dk its better

[real torrent]

bro yesterday i was told to push with bb

☠️

[strange prism]

goated update, but makes my 99% look worse

[minor scroll]

Theres also a lv 13 ball joe pickle

[fresh parrot]

useless

[strange prism]

hes good for afk pushing, but for the boss hes one of the worse, second to vman

[thorny zinc]

[minor scroll]

Bm tho

[real torrent]

but pushing with dk is way slower

[strange prism]

idk I have nothing but pure hate for BB when it comes to w5 boss

[true hamlet]

99% linear bubbles when smh

[thorny zinc]

tomorrow

[real torrent]

i dont even have enough dmg in my dk too 🗿

[thorny zinc]

sadly i think im not gonna get out of this ever atp

[true hamlet]

or else? you uninstall for the 5th time and come back the next day?

[thorny zinc]

i didnt even uninstalled the game when i said that xd

[true hamlet]

I know

[minor scroll]

762T to 725T in 20 mins lol

[thorny zinc]

i will go for 50k stat bubbles before w6, just need to get 1000 cauldrons first

[thorny zinc]

yeah..

question. if the time runs out and the next wave starts. i know you cant save but it will count as 200 wave?

[minor scroll]

Prob 190

[thorny zinc]

[minor scroll]

Or just delete the run

Idk

[thorny zinc]

i hate td

[mint quartz]

400k next

[thorny zinc]

slow down a bit

[mint quartz]

ill reach that before u finish that td

[thorny zinc]

you can reach a lot more than that xd

im gonna watch mane till i finish that

[mossy anvil]

go go shadow

[thorny zinc]

how are you doing nejo?

will you come back in w7?

[mossy anvil]

same as always

[mossy anvil]

no idea, prob gonna check it out and thats all

[thorny zinc]

oh okay

[fiery falcon]

why is it important for vman to be top in skills

[south girder]

how much does increasing fire amount increase new recipie chance?

[thorny zinc]

not worth

[south girder]

damn

[thorny zinc]

just do the first fire all the time

[south girder]

oh

[thorny zinc]

because of maestro talents

right and left hand talents

oops forgot to spend points

better

[true hamlet]

hmmmm 🍻

Hard carried by atoms lmao

[thorny zinc]

...

[true hamlet]

I mean, if I did GT overnight, I could probably get that higher

that's degenerate though

[thorny zinc]

smh

[strange prism]

imagine bubbling

[mint quartz]

its ok my w6 bubbles are all fake levels boosting that number

had to dump the liquid somewhere

[thorny zinc]

its over

[strange prism]

w6 to 99% is fair, but beyond thats just inflating bubble count

[true hamlet]

what the f

[mint quartz]

99.5%

[true hamlet]

nah I'm going to fight fire with fire, let me boot up my PC

[strange prism]

whats the % on that crop evo

[thorny zinc]

smh and they were telling im the one boosting my bubble levels

[mint quartz]

tome score is tome score

[true hamlet]

eh

[strange prism]

.. bruh

[true hamlet]

what's your tome score

[thorny zinc]

so...do i leave?

[true hamlet]

lol

[minor scroll]

No

[fresh parrot]

whadabout the yellow one

[candid creek]

WHAT

Oh my...

[strange prism]

the reason I stopped doing TDs

[thorny zinc]

i really dont know if it counts to 200 waves if i die now

[mint quartz]

trying to reach 5%

[strange prism]

which one?

[fresh parrot]

doesn't till everything from that wave dies

[thorny zinc]

fuck it im leaving

[strange prism]

this?

[fresh parrot]

21st, first w6 bub

[mint quartz]

idk how much extra points i get from 300k to 400k bubbles tho

[fresh parrot]

636 and I'm at 4.5 😭

[strange prism]

like 10 at best

[mint quartz]

but my next 100k bubble levels are mostly useful stuff so im doing it anyways

ive only done agi to 30k, havent touched str and wis bubbles yet

[true hamlet]

more, I'm at 1043 at 332k

[strange prism]

follkeys in the millions and at like 1400 points

[true hamlet]

only

[strange prism]

hes got over a mil in stat bubbles alone

[mint quartz]

i would do more if i had the liquid but im happy with 30k on the stat bubbles for now

[thorny zinc]

probably 2m atp

[mint quartz]

the resource clicking part is pretty chill now tbh

i just use the "c" keybind to open codex and i click through all my levels in <10minutes

[thorny zinc]

whats your carry cap inv

[strange prism]

idk how he does it man, id go insane clicking 3 bubbles to a mil each

[mint quartz]

5.6b only per inventory

[thorny zinc]

oof

might need to work on that

[fresh parrot]

I go insane clicking 3 bubbles-

[strange prism]

no chance you pick up all of a 1 hour candy in 10 minutes

[quiet crane]

@strange prism

[true hamlet]

don't have to

[strange prism]

.. right

[thorny zinc]

you only pick up as much liquid as u have

[true hamlet]

well ok, time to see how much GT I can get

[mint quartz]

i dont have insanely high liquid cap so i dont need to click a whole lot

[thorny zinc]

1h candy is a lot more than your liquid cap

[true hamlet]

I'll just rebrand this under account review prep

then it's all fine right?

[strange prism]

idk I usually go through most of the 1 hour candy

[upper parcel]

Hey, i have one of each subclass and 2Dks, what should i make my 8th character, the secret class or no

[thorny zinc]

yes

[true hamlet]

depends on the resource and bubble level

[upper parcel]

what does Vman do anyways

[true hamlet]

zuphi only gets about 80 clicks (80b copper) with a full bar of liquid

[mint quartz]

other than mason jar, its just waiting for gilded stamps and hydrogen reduction, but im using those to up my liquids more
but the 5b cap is doing fine for me, clicks really arent too bad, more annoyed by liquids

[plain heath]

7th or 8th is generally secret class yea

[thorny zinc]

buffs all your characters and account

[upper parcel]

sounds cool

[plain heath]

basically sacrifices itself to buff all your other stuff

[thorny zinc]

XDDD

[true hamlet]

smh what did it save as

[arctic yarrow]

i can feel the lag spike

[thorny zinc]

190

[upper parcel]

also, is the DK better for active farming

[true hamlet]

cool cool, can blame acecow smh

[upper parcel]

but active farming is so inconvenient, i cant sit in front of the computer for hours. I dont even have outoloot

[thorny zinc]

still an improvement went from 150 to 190

[true hamlet]

cool

I think I'm at 1170 total waves

[thorny zinc]

WAIT

[true hamlet]

heh

[thorny zinc]

24K done

[true hamlet]

ew late

[minor scroll]

150 the citric

[quiet crane]

[true hamlet]

24034 not clean

gotta go for 25k now smh

[thorny zinc]

now ig its time for wisdom

(i have 5k)

[pulsar girder]

Got to w6 ww 🙂

[minor scroll]

25001 smh

[true hamlet]

with your memory, it will take you from round 1 to round 2

still double the rewards I suppose

[thorny zinc]

[strange prism]

hmm kinda forgot his had essence and exp %, might need to TD again

[true hamlet]

I'm fairly happy with 10k wisdom (although I have 15k)

[plain heath]

pit of infinite AC

[quiet crane]

im testing rn

[thorny zinc]

[strange prism]

never be happy, always sadness

[minor scroll]

is it perma now

[quiet crane]

idk yet

[true hamlet]

idk 10k is enough to break even on like first 15 rounds for me

so that's like +2-4 extra rounds of rewards

[strange prism]

I just did it to complete it tbh, I dont even do wisdom

[wraith timber]

wisdom is prob my fav monument

[strange prism]

Im on a 7x though could try out the new 24k

[true hamlet]

I'm pretty confident in wisdom, just tiring to keep doing it. I usually do it around 5x or so

But that's coming from someone with a really good memory lmao

I can consistently hit 20+

[vernal hinge]

what does the bubonic conjuror do that makes him so good? just got him

[strange prism]

I usually aim for a 28x justice then do monuments

[minor scroll]

lab helper

[true hamlet]

went from 8k to 9.7k gt already lol

[strange prism]

Lab, Alchemy and now AC buffs

[fresh parrot]

haow

[true hamlet]

memorise better

[minor scroll]

good memory

[true hamlet]

I explained my technic in manecord I think

[minor scroll]

jiof is a bot

[true hamlet]

tony had a simliar strat

[strange prism]

take a pic when it shows everything

[true hamlet]

I suppose you could do that too

[thorny zinc]

pro trick

[fresh parrot]

that's only secret mode doe

[sonic gust]

When do I open this mechanism?

[thorny zinc]

you can do on main game too

[strange prism]

you can get it to show full lines in normal

[true hamlet]

I can remember most of it anyways, don't need pictures to make me lose concentration fr

[zenith hare]

that's what they all say

[thorny zinc]

time for everything to be really laggy

[zenith hare]

me when filter

[true hamlet]

indeed

[thorny zinc]

ig i could filter leafs too

[true hamlet]

filter all the gfood

[thorny zinc]

hell nah

[true hamlet]

who needs gfood anyways

[zenith hare]

leaves have like 0 use past 10m

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[ashen steppe]

How does one increase card drop rate

[thorny zinc]

im gonna gstack pens too from now on

[zenith hare]

Dr or card dr

[sonic gust]

@thorny zinc

[ashen steppe]

Card

[zenith hare]

it's shadows shadow!!

[zenith hare]

no as in both increases it

[thorny zinc]

i think its either rift or gaming

[ashen steppe]

Oh lol

[zenith hare]

that's the main source of card dr

[ashen steppe]

I thought they were unrelated

[sonic gust]

Thanks

[zenith hare]

..well only source, afk% and mk also helps if you afk it

[ashen steppe]

Ok thx!

[zenith hare]

no it's auto arm @sonic gust @thorny zinc

[thorny zinc]

td thing is from autoarm too?

[zenith hare]

gaming just gives the damage ups

[thorny zinc]

oh

[zenith hare]

and stuff

[thorny zinc]

my bad i really forgot where i got it

[zenith hare]

smh

iirc it's auto arm 3?

[true hamlet]

Is it?

[zenith hare]

msa

[thorny zinc]

decent gains ig shouldnt take more than 4-5 days to reach 1000 cauldrons

[zenith hare]

I swear that was on the 3rd one

[true hamlet]

I think the MSA itself is automation arm, but totaliser is from gaming

[wary glen]

hey guys whats the correct team for the to reach round 115 in pet arena with 4 pets? (for equinox)

[zenith hare]

yeah the stat ups is sneaking/gaming

[true hamlet]

yeah you need the gaming one before you can get anything from totaliser

[wary glen]

thanks!!!

[thorny zinc]

mb

[true hamlet]

iirc you won't get the jade emp bonuses even if you unlocked it but don't have the gaming totaliser

[minor scroll]

reached 114 with the rattler borger team 😔

[thorny zinc]

hm i could filter ghampters too

[wraith timber]

ghampter filter feels insane is ur cake good

[thorny zinc]

1m stack

[strange prism]

AC crystal for more spawns, what a sweat

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[true hamlet]

filter pens

[strange prism]

it is insane : )

[true hamlet]

not much diff but whatever fr

[thorny zinc]

i rather keep pens for gstack

[zenith hare]

gstack.

[west pilot]

Save for 10M

[quiet crane]

@minor scroll not infi yet, its very close tho :v

[zenith hare]

also gcakes

[thorny zinc]

fine.. i will save them ig

[zenith hare]

iirc

[minor scroll]

try to work on cc uptime

[strange prism]

DK, DB, ES and WW all need cakes, farm till 4m for them

[quiet crane]

gonna lvl the bubble a bit and it should be fine ig

[strange prism]

~118% for inf cc

[thorny zinc]

i could use midas prayer and the coins one too

i will remove zerg for more carry cap

and add rucksack too

[minor scroll]

use ruck sack and the big brain prayer

[strange prism]

you have inventory issues when CCIng

[thorny zinc]

i wont use big brain but yeah

[thorny zinc]

nah

[wraith timber]

why big brain 🗿

[thorny zinc]

to have big brain duh

[wraith timber]

ok stephen hawking

[zenith hare]

lowers the mk drops that are useless

[thorny zinc]

dont really need levels rn

[minor scroll]

need 800

[thorny zinc]

you do first

[south girder]

does this look optimal for pushing?

[quiet crane]

@strange prism @minor scroll what bar do i use for cc

[strange prism]

raise dead and skull

[strange prism]

fart* whoops

[thorny zinc]

ez noob + L

[wraith timber]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1352406882358136843.png?v=1&size=48&quality=lossless

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/0-gif-14224457178163031750

[white path]

Hi polar bear

[quiet crane]

[white lintel]

Needs more dmg skill investments

[strange prism]

I usually do aura and raise dead cause of lag

[thorny zinc]

hi mr polar noob bear

[south girder]

wait do i take out to replace with

[mint quartz]

mayb drop the wisdom talent for more points into the spells since more lvls = more targets hit, idk how impactful stats are for you at this point

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[minor scroll]

enough points into the 11th talent to get the m=nobisect link if u havent link on it yet

[white lintel]

Potrtsl

[south girder]

link?

[minor scroll]

nobisect 2nd link

[south girder]

where and what is that

[strange prism]

would only put 1 point into portal, 1 into wormhole emperor and level youre attack skills more

[robust marsh]

yo aod , fellow animal and scy

[wraith wedge]

guys ts doesnt work for some reason

[mint quartz]

on daily reset

[strange prism]

Wouldnt rely on it, its not very efficient

[vernal hinge]

i finally got my first orange coin

[thorny zinc]

thats orange

im red

aod flexing on me with nitro

[mint quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/super-meat-boy-meat-boy-chad-meme-get-the-fuck-away-gif-1368701562765876483

[vernal hinge]

read again

[strange prism]

I would never

[thorny zinc]

so you hate me

[strange prism]

Its not flexing, its trying to get a use of the money I wasted

[vernal hinge]

just 3 more maps and i got more multikill on top of all

every kill gives 4-6 points

woah

https://tenor.com/view/fyp-charliethesteak-charlie-the-steak-steak-meme-gif-9137302751357062078

[strange prism]

whats your purple sneaking gem stone %

[quiet crane]

@minor scroll @strange prism (just refreshed, status didnt update in that very frame)

[strange prism]

hmm got a long way to go ig

wonder when 300% hits

[minor scroll]

nice

[quiet crane]

yes

yippie

guys what char is good for getting 'em golem asses?

[rugged edge]

I think put everyone in there for now lol

[quiet crane]

do i afk and get torches as normal?

[uneven obsidian]

yueah you get torch fro mafk too

[mortal mountain]

You could active SB for a while

[rugged edge]

Yup

[uneven obsidian]

active sb to farm the card till gold

[rugged edge]

When I ll get c15 my sb going to gilem jail heheh

[thorny fern]

Hello guys i have a question? How to improve my sample and what to prioritize?

[strange prism]

SB to get plunderous kills in

[quiet crane]

ty

[strange prism]

it also counts for torch drops so more overall

[quiet crane]

my ww is gonna have a blast once i decide to use these

[mortal mountain]

For one, the best thing to aim for is 90% sample rate all around. As for sample size, that's gonna depend on your afk gains, skill efficiency, resource per min, and many other variables that can't be answered so simply. There are many things that will help you grow the amount of resources you can print.

The more resources you can get per hour, the higher your print.

[thorny fern]

Thanks man

[strange prism]

how does one 15000 these

[thorny zinc]

why 15k?

[mortal mountain]

Just get them to 99%

[strange prism]

5k each for 3

~15k~

[thorny zinc]

lmao

i used atoms

[mortal mountain]

Candying gmush helps

[strange prism]

what was the bonus % from it

[thorny zinc]

or that yeah

[strange prism]

idk man candying mats is pretty bad

I get like 1.6b gmush caps per hour

[strange prism]

fml you dont have all prisma

[thorny zinc]

[strange prism]

I need to see what overall is to determine if its worth active ESing it

warrior definitely seems worth it for the building speed

it does buff stat % and 15th which also buffs stat % so ig all are worth it

fml

[quiet crane]

u kinda low bruv :p

[hexed cairn]

idk sems low too dome

[thorny zinc]

[minor scroll]

10002 is bad

10000 is better

[hexed cairn]

i neeeda go kill gmush

[quiet crane]

my bad

i never candyclicked it tho

[hexed cairn]

[thorny zinc]

tbh no reason to go past 4950

[quiet crane]

frick these golems

[strange prism]

.13x for 8k levels

[quiet crane]

@strange prism why does ur bubble give so much value 🥺

[strange prism]

you'll learn this one day, but youre not endgame if you dont level things for no reason, do better

[thorny zinc]

prisma arcade bonus

[quiet crane]

ah right

ww?

[thorny zinc]

i mean i do level bubbles for total bubble levels. but i rather level up flat bubbles instead

[thorny zinc]

i literally said arcade

[quiet crane]

i have that maxed and doubled tho

[strange prism]

youre telling me activing gmush for a month to gain .01x isnt worth it?!

[thorny zinc]

ofc its worth it

[strange prism]

do you have deer

[quiet crane]

deer who

[thorny zinc]

[strange prism]

[quiet crane]

https://tenor.com/view/deer-gif-22652112

which one is deer actually

[thorny zinc]

companion pet

[quiet crane]

that guy?

i dont have it

[thorny zinc]

then thats the reason

[quiet crane]

what does this give @strange prism @thorny zinc ?(golem stamp ig)

[strange prism]

golems give both

[restive marsh]

my lab-boosted construction slot randomly removes the building im working on, is it a feature that im not aware of ?

[quiet crane]

study rate

[strange prism]

Not thats not normal

[quiet crane]

never heard of that

[strange prism]

he 2xs all arcade bonuses

[quiet crane]

no way

[strange prism]

yea its pretty op

[quiet crane]

thats disgusting

[restive marsh]

i just leave my character on active, and then occasionally i'd check. and i saw one of the buildings is gone from the slot

ok so its not just the lab-boosted slots its all of them

[quiet crane]

weird

[strange prism]

[quiet crane]

[minor scroll]

@thorny zinc

[thorny zinc]

i cant. doing cc for 3-4 days

[minor scroll]

4 days straight? wth

[quiet crane]

@strange prism lvl 0 ->

[strange prism]

from 4?! dang

[minor scroll]

onyx

[thorny zinc]

lvl 1000 cauldrons

[quiet crane]

ye in 2 months maybe

[hexed shoal]

When Onyx

[strange prism]

is that really only gonna take 4 days?

[quiet crane]

bro i unlocked it today

[thorny zinc]

idk how much will actually take

[hexed shoal]

Better start working now

[wraith timber]

how awful is dragon statue drop

[thorny zinc]

500 levels tho

[mortal mountain]

You'll get there

[strange prism]

I cant tell if active CCing is better then AC for me rn. CC week makes active CCing feel so slow

[minor scroll]

like awfully awful

[strange prism]

smh why are you always at the same place as me

[thorny zinc]

xd

[quiet crane]

with 40x dr i got 4 in like 20 mins on sb

[strange prism]

now Im gonna get passed

active ES for gmush caps is not it, this is slow asf

[thorny zinc]

cant wait to overnight wis bubble too

[strange prism]

just hit my first 1b

20m per level

[wraith timber]

oh active drop alright

yea no wonder i thought "aintnoway thats only 4 from afk"

[strange prism]

before

[uneven jay]

that stupid splicer bluprint is one in 333k ive greenstacked these arms activly and even 10 million later still no blueprint 🙁

[strange prism]

dam Uge

[quiet crane]

mk kills dont count to drops

[fresh parrot]

651T to 651T insane, I should use all my candy for seesaw statue rn frfr

[quiet crane]

how do u have that many

[uneven jay]

so what the math on this then? devide by 19?

[quiet crane]

idk the math, just hope u get the item eventually :D

and get droprate

[strange prism]

I used 20 12 hour candies

[uneven jay]

and if it doesnt effect drops then how did i greenstack the arms activly with no drop : /

[quiet crane]

on what

[strange prism]

cryosnakes

I can't believe my XP didnt move at all though

[west pilot]

💀

[quiet crane]

its no guarantee bro, its a chance :D

[strange prism]

well thats weird, it buffed my other DK who had the same XP

[uneven jay]

thats allot of chances

[strange prism]

||scary number||

so 1 DK gained 15T/hr and the other got nothing, Uge

[quiet crane]

mine is ass

[strange flare]

I think I hit 1.6t a few days ago

[quiet crane]

[zenith hull]

can someone guide this lost soul on the best pets to use in pet battles

im losing my mind

[quiet crane]

@thorny zinc

[thorny zinc]

what

[quiet crane]

send yo guide

[thorny zinc]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Y1-SMEM6jFZPfJ3qQHKFHighqB_i4LpI_kowPwetgcY/edit?usp=sharing

[zenith hull]

may lava bless you

[strange prism]

surely this does something

huh.. not bad

[west pilot]

Atleast It moved

Not like cons

[quiet crane]

[sharp thistle]

The quest for critter catching isn't letting me complete it what do I do?

[white lintel]

Wdym

[upper whale]

How is the Beryllium atom upgrade suppose to work? I don't seem to be getting any extra pens from it even though I have pens in the box. They aren't consumed and I don't get any new boxes.

[unkempt pilot]

Is this guide outdated or was something changed? The midgame spice setup gives me 6x return of the "current meta". Or is there something about alchemic that isnt explicit?

[uneven obsidian]

work at your daily reset

[minor scroll]

More spices per bar refill

The midgame is just more speed

[upper whale]

Yes, but it doesn't work.

[strange flare]

Converter + spice spillage with high per power is the end game Strat

[unkempt pilot]

Oh so it overcomes the speed

[upper whale]

I never seem to have got boxes from it and it never seems to consume my pens.

[unkempt pilot]

Got ya so i gotta work towards converter