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161, not bad
I don't... I'm left with dumpling, bread, nomwich and hampter lol
:(
That's better than yday I think

Btw who are u pushing on
dk
the skill eff rings 
oh look, someone who prepared well
they're BiS rings for skilling, and I mean.. you can keep them till emp opals
they are pushing
idk what else id wear
yeah fair
they are cheap and have good stats, theres nothing better honestly
yeah i was trying to think of rings and its all trash
yea tenacity are expensive af for no gain
the next best rings are neutron ice rings but they are too rare, not worth the time to get
i have like 4 of those lol
from 601 to 613 (27k cakes)
that's not too shabby
is 25x dr common enough for it to drop?
i want to put it on the rest
i only have 1 opal
these are the 2 you'd generally use
i guess, but honestly not worth the effort
just save up for opals
guess they staying in jail longer 
broke on tickets
dr check
does power cap just NOT increase?
Cap at 1m
Every rank up make each rank up faster
nada
hello everyone. I am still quite new to the game and f2p as well. My DR is at 6 currently. I can probably push it a little bit more but i need the time for it.
I was wondering, if i buy the 1,20x drop rate bonus from the island premium pack. How much dr will i get?
what is the best way to get cooking xp?
like 20% more of what i have?
Balloons I guess?
so its quite a powerfull bonus right? since i will scale from my future dr
afk in the cooking area wont get me enough xp?
hmmm and how much dr can a f2p player get? just to see a perspective of what i am missing
Just think of all your future grinds for drops being 20% faster I guess?
I mean.. I'm not sure? Balloons give me more than enough
190+
alr ty
like on the active bar?
just the spread of talent points cause im low level 300
ig?
It's never too early to do wraith mode, I got my DB at level 230 
dam
these 5 talents are ur priorities, graveyard and grimoire to maximise bones gains, marauder for accuracy, axe and combustion for clearing
Wow, so many talent points..
i ripped that pic off the db guide 
alr thx ๐
+94 levels 
6 month old talent pic, sounds reasonable
could anyone help me with the w4 dance achievement? im on pizza 1 server
try asking in #party-finder-๐ช
db feels a lot more fun than ww icl
how is shiny chance calculated with eagle eye? are the chances based on individual characters or is it based on the hunter? how about trapping and replacing traps and collecting regular critters?
if i change character layout from gatherer to fighter does that affect eagle eye or does it only matter when you first put out the trap?
efficiency and xp - when placing traps
collect traps with trapper drone/eagle eye - traps retain same stats, only new stats when you delete and replace them
shiny chance and shiny snitch prayer - when collecting traps
iirc it uses the current eagle eye talent level, so if you swap to preset with lower level eagle eye then you collect less
so does shiny chance affect all traps if on a hunter or do all character need shiny chance?
wait which maps are good to farm bones for db
the character u are collecting traps on needs to have the shiny chance/prayer
#1330702925294735360 probably some more new maps in w3/4 now with the colo tech
how can i see the chance besides looking at traps directly in the map? it does not tell me in the skill stats when i open my inventory
dont think there is any other way
:(
but dont concern yourself too much with the chance, if you want to maximise shinies then u should be using 20minute traps
i am but its annoying to constantly collect them even if you use the mobile app
thats just how it is if you want to maximise shinies
ok thx
Accidentally left my db in wraith mode overnight afk and he didnโt get any dragon statues 
nah colo tech only w6 
At least i checked at 8hrs and didnโt let it run for a day
i think frost flakes with colo is better than sheepie now 
ah perchance then 
Sticks
fat exp (I forgot to use ww talents back when I had 3k)
yuge
it is
I think i might get to w6 colo next week the next time i spend bones. I got to skull of damage this week
Itll be chill to get the 30 talents
Back in my day we had to fight sheepies. ๐ด
i wonder how it is for neyeptunes and tvs too then
I honestly cant tell, does break all with cave jars work correctly with gilded jars?
Am I wasting a slot?
i made the mistake of upgrading my trap but i didn't have the lvl to support it on my hunter :(
classic
Uge
-# unge
I no understanding
click biggest gilded jar first then click all other gilded jars then click big rupie jar
didnt know people used gilded 
i never used it
I used it few times
Thanks but that doesnt answer the question
are there any talent lvl "breakpoints" aside from 400
iirc there are some but i forgor
450, 500..
before 400
200 for 3sec tent
ik eclipse has some stuff but idk if 201-399 has any breakpoints
isnt eclipse capped at 250?
"up to 250"
depends on the talent 
thats why im asking lmao

u gotta tell us what talent 
at least someone understood 
just like in general if there are breakpoints
||accuracy talent||
its different for almost all talents
anything that is duration and cooldown based probably has a breakpoint for 100% uptime
ppl rave about 400 but never really anything in the 300s
but yea it depends on how the talent itself scales
I finally got the fungi jewel, monehhhh
can thank AC for that
because ac is the new thing now that needs 400 
450 
why everyone talks about 400
also tent right?
if only that gave 12 arcane mobs
give comb 
if only
wait what..
huh

tent becomes 4s reduction at 400 
bro max your talents 
replied to the wrong comment 
you should def have enough points too
ha not even close lmao
i think im almost maxed talent book wise, i just need soverign and then after that its just summoning bonuses
then i need to go do the overflow stuff bjwfljkblbj
rip my accuracy upgrade ig
wonder if hourly will change now with -9 and 12 arcane 
might see an improvement yeah
oh wait my vman's efficiency isnt absolute crap now bc of the eclipse thing
might even be able to do stilts 
i dont even think it was hitting 1x before
i think i am soon be able to do cheese nub (still no verdon XD)
what levels your bubo mr shadow
clearing stiltmoles is huge as you unlock molties
why are donuts the only brown tach in w4 
indeed it is, the map layouts just annoying
btw is the skilled dimwit thing worth it on voidwalker even with the exp hit
yes
it is worth on every character all the time
i lost 8m xp/hr 
I bought one teleport upgrade and it was never an issue again fwiw

honestly i might just buy it like once or twice
just active AC for a few weeks, you'll have ports in no time
just so i never have to worry abt teleports
i dont have 400 tent so i cant progress
id just be prisma bubble farming at sandy pots
Iโm annoyed that the pristines are still broken because that comb is like 7 Talent levels lol
Regalis and Godshard there are just a huge time gate and i got to 400+ without those fwiw
But it was like my main focus to optimize equinox progression to get to equinox talents
Does 3d printer not print into other stacks if there's manualy created more than 1 stack of some ressource?
can I get 80wp bows from ricecake?
nope, only first stack
i forgor how familiars scaled, was it 3 or 4 tonkas -> regalias
Uhhhh more that that i think it was 6 or 7
how many does the game say it takes to make 1 vrumbie (in slime buy description)
u gotta do them like this
just +1 that every tier
but that's gonna fill only the 1st one, then I'd have to move the it to the back, or it will fill all 3 stacks?
still very far it seems
ye it fills the first, then u move again
got it, thanks!
I...
the reason I was struggling on endless.. I forgot to Fucking double seeing red
tome shows how many you have to compare to whats needed
im stuck in summoning cause sparkies dont like me 
i'mma try ti again after my dailt totm
surprisingly still the same
I finally unlocked totm and I already forgot for at least 4 days
how do we keep our siege breaker constantly respawning mobs? feels like im waiting on things to respawn all the time
pretty much how my totm go lmao
plunderous mob kills
they allow coins to drop from all enemies, and the counter on the flag is the amount of coins collected and the amount of "stockpile mobs" that can respawn
where can i check sample seize?
!it
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prob the most convenient way is this
construction tab in skills also works (you have to check one by one tho)
gotcha just need more levels in it flags sitting at 120 now
do you have to unequip your current print to unequip royal sampler or only the samples on the sideline?
i think its all prints on class you removing it from
so you cant spec into that take a print and spec out of it
makes sense
hey does anyone know if crescent shrine giant spawn chance show in giant mob odds? mine does not seem to be changing
the exp loss isn't that negative right? it drops class ecp from 9.88x to 9.45x
the exp loss is negligible
and you want a low skill lvl anyway for the claws to proc
Come on
what talent lvl makes orb infinite
Again I see you when I check this discord!
that message is like 20mins old, you're literally digging them just to roast me
tbf 0.43x isnt that end of the world level
something something 200+ probably
300 I think?
According to the calculator in the idleon wiki
inifnite orb is in the 300's
i hate glass cannon rounds
3 w6 medallions from a single day of totm, not bad
thats 150 sec right?
But you also get post office attack cooldown so it's 300 is the base
ye right? and skill lvl does not matter unless i want better tools
Oh shit it is, actually when I went into discord they were the FIRST ones on my screen
i can get like 302 so i think itll be fine
skill lv is still useful later on for skill mastery
Yeah
sureeee
but as long as you can keep your beginner above your others youre fine
i misclicked
I think you're just evil
rip 20 books lmao
Ouch
how do ur skill max go to 252 ๐ฎ
more crit dmg wooo!!!!!!
I've never even been mean to you, idk whyy you think rhat
You get the library from construction to increase max level talents
why do i see mine max is 125?
And there are many other sources that also give extra talents as LONG as the talent as a least one level
You have to increase that library one
majority this
the summoning one is only +11 rn bc i barely have any summoning boosts
oh i have to up its level , got it
Yeah upgrade those things in the image
a 6 second downtime is fine for now ig
I'm so MAD at the rift
After the first couple accessible ones these are all long term projects but very valuable
what did The Rift do to you ๐
I don't do nearly enough damage to get pirate flags score
oh yeah fair kill it with fire
Last time I had to wait ages to get the damage so I could one hit for 500 mobs in 5 mins
is there any talent build i need for lab character?
Then I had to afk which is fine but flag is just the second/worst one
oh god its the ten times hp round again im going to kill myself
oh yea rift is terrible until its just "kill 5mil afk" at the end
some challenges were worse than others but man are the rewards nice
Not even at the end I still have to do that
damn, bro didn't suffer from lava skulls I see
The free win??
ya its just slow
Barely
Yeah I'm glad, what's the issue
none, why're you so hostile sheesh
I just unlocked vial mastery from I think the 5mil afk one
woo winner bonuses!!!
The issue is I don't do enough damage...
lava skulls were pretty free ngl
ww ftw
then come back later
good to know 
same, although I used double sb
I kinda liked em
Where is your damage at plus can i see your food
Do you just want my toolbox at this point
No
("this point" that was not far I'm just lazy)
Im not that nosy
I don't wanna transfer all my foods over to my SB right now
wild
No but it's literally the easiest way
eh sb is the easiest
And get it set up with everything I have for dmg
controlled kill zone + fast respawn + no rng like deer
Amazing spelling
Are you using speed potions
No?
if you wanna auto just do bubo lol
Plus damage is the issue lmao
active sb gets it done in like 10mins
active or not it took like 15 minutes
Speed affects damage as well
It does?
Yep
Oh right that one skill
But that won't do much lowkey not enough for it to make it worth it
I still wouldn't be able to do it even with speed pots
have you tried
No but I have a feeling speed pots won't do enough
dont go with your gut feeling
Because I was far enough off for it to not be worth it
try it out. see how it goes. equip your sb with proper gear
It's like adding 10mil to 3000mil damage it won't be worth it
I don't have good gear it already has the best it can
how difficult is it to buy speed pots from the w4 shop
Wait what, I thought that was an archer/higher class archer talent that did that
The more spped more damage also helps with multi kills as well
Lmao
No unless it says so its account wide
Well now I realise
Dont worry i was where you were 2months ago
Alright, I'm kitting out
Just to be sure, this thing is applicable for characters , all the time??
I actually haven't pushed this bubble in a while i should bcuz my movement speed is above 3000%
yea
Holy fuck I just failed 3 of the world 6 upgrade stones in a row
Thank you
(I forgot to upgrade one of the tools SB had)
Why do my extra copper ores turn into atom eventhough I've turned it off?
It won't rise higher than 1050M in storage chest
If its off its gone
make it 100% chance
anything higher then 1050m becomes atoms, reguardless if you have collider turned on/off or even haven't built it yet
Storage can only hold 1050m per square
Oh, thanks
So even if you see it more as soon as you leave the map it's going right back to 1050
it can hold infinite, but it'll be instantly atomed if
- map change
- print proc
more than 1050m in the same map
That's why most people said there's to 1050 for the atom so the excess can go there instead of just disappearing
Right but if you switch maps it's gone
fat stacks
yay
?
I couldn't do it
My base with a level 1 talent for flag is 18x health and they're still to strong
perhaps youre trying rift far too early then
I'm using my best possible equipment at the current moment, from a +3% becoming +6% with the keychain doubler
I'm at rift 30+, it obviously goes up
It wasn't early when I started, but right now my damage isn't enough
what rift u trying?
well stop here for now then
I did the one before this fairly easy
SB flag?
I did, I just wanted to show whoever it was that asked that I couldn't do it
Mhm the first flag after vial mastery
hows ur stats?
The one before this (5mil afk kills) I did in like a day with most of my characters doing it
This is with the best possible quipment on my SB and allat
The flag gives 18x health
yeah no shot
If it was to kill normal enemies I could but with the extra health from plunderous I have 0 chance
do u have prayer equip?
Which I hardly have any prayers
What world u unlocked
ahh nvm then
Me? 6 lmao
yeah people usually unlock w6 very early on anyway
I'm just really behind in everything because I skipped doing everything
Do some sailing
You think I've just left that there for weeks?
No I check sailing at LEAST once a day, I'm at the frosty island
Also the meals and pets
Well, I've unlocked to there
what are the main sources of villager exp? i feel ive been stagnating
Yes I have been doing everything bud
Very nice
Everything BUT alchemy and the 4 main skills
4 main node skills sorry
4 only node skills I guess?
Thats plenty i finished world 6 with less that that but that was b4 i started pushing alchemy
hover ur xp in toolbox and check
it was for rift lol
Do you have speed potions on
I know
damn you samurai guardian!!!
I finished rift b4 w6
onyx villager statues helps alot
Oh I'm nowhere near finishing W6 myself, I'm at the first "multiple character gate" thing
And i always kept 2 in rift for those ones that need millions for the afk kills made the push a whole lot easier
Mhm
oh thats multiplicative
But it made hardly a difference to my dmg, I'll show
Holy shit you're right
This is insane news do I kit all my characters out with it??
mustve been pretty slow
What about your movements though and what gear are you using i had Chizoar
It was
Base damage is WAY more juiced out for damage than I thought
I didn't understand alchemy and I didn't understand how important it was until I had nothing to do
nothing really awaits you at the emperor's pearly gates anyway so pushing maps shouldnt be a main priority
now you do. and now youre goated
You should see my damage now
If it wasn't for salt I could get lustre
in the out of screen numbers?
Something trillions
Yea
trillions r low
Numbers touching my gear
This picture is from last month but you get the picture
how many dollars went into this
I probably spent about $40 the whole time I played this game
my dk has that damage as f2p ๐คทโโ๏ธ
doesn't really take money to reach that level, money is when your damage reaches outside the equipment screen into the inventory itself
I just started pushing alchemy 2months ago for me its a huge increase from being in the millions

hi qwaser

hi qweesor
Hi everyone anyone has problems with cooking
what problems?
Mine is strange in quite far in cooking but ita not moving at all in days
pretty normal if you dont have dchef doubled
Well im at lvl 90 woth all foods Yesterday poped the First dish at 100 and than It all stopped
vman on wrong preset?
Yes here you are thanks i was getting mad
https://nyteria.idleonefficiency.com/
Can anyone give me some tips on what next im quite stuck
@void swift
Ty
Oooo
Yeah ?
Does anyone have some sort of guide to all movement speed bonuses?
Just all sources
Search idleon insight
On Google or in the search box here
biggest move speed bonus i get is from statues
food effect statue+movement speed food
I have
Is ac worth pushing for
without 400 talents no
K
U mean 400 talent points in the master tab? Or like talent points from 400 levels
Oh yeah I'm not close ๐ญ
mainly tent
yes
At 400 Iโm losing steam on ac at clammies but i figure thatโs normal and Iโm glad i got to clammies to boost the dr there lol
db is much more fun to play than ww
Im confused, do you only get gems from the first hundred boss kills or you can get 100 gems daily from boss ?
150 daily bosses
oooh
~100 gems per day
How do u get that many keys
Well gotta keep grinding to buy that x2 villager xp ๐ค
colo
it gives me like 300 first world key consistantly
Do u only get colo tickets from from w1-3 guys right
Ye
New event when ๐
Idk how many gems i spended in the random gems but im missing only 3
Hallowen ๐
That's long ๐
Maybe (i have no idea dont take this as fact)
Spend on lab chips
Trust the luck
Gambling ๐ฅ๐ฅ
Im missing the x1.24 meal boost
so i've got 1 shiny squirrel should i get more or should i just focus on unlocking more pets and spices?
I got 66% next week ๐ค
I'm trying to get fucking cheese for the choco chip
Imagine hitting the 33%
The recipe takes like 5 days my cooking is actually so shit
Bro missed choco chip ๐
There's another in a few weeks
I don't have prisma bubbles
what world u at ?
1 week can get u 4m cheese
Try getting you're bubo at the third map
you could active AC for a while to farm 10 prismas
so u can get you're first 20 prisma
Like its not important
AC form not bubo
Upgrade any stamps, vials, alchemy that help with cooking speed
He isnt here yet
Yeah ik but to push to masterius
oh ok
I'm trying to craft another set of chizor

Lmao
Not funny ๐
only craft one
if u need dps start slowly optimising
Should I craft lustre instead for set bonus then?
yes
AND GET ARCANE CULTIST (Cooking will give you massive dps)
Craft a lustre set
And you can push Summoning in like 2 weeks
Bro my cooking is quite possibly the worst thing u ever seen
Hey can someone pls explane to me what greenstacking is ?(equinox dream first cloud)
I was making 1 cheeze daily and with prisma diamond chef instantly got it to lv 30
10m stack of an item in storage chest
10m stack of an item
its THAT op
Thanks
since it does x2, x2...
So it ends up giving you x3120 or sum
Dont care reach the baby trolls map on your bubo
or you will miss choco chip anyways
active farm
Ok ๐
and if you got the mantis god use it to active
Hey guys at the refinery in w3 that tutorial pop up blocks my 2nd combustion slot so i cant make explosive salts. How do i get rid of it ?
Idk why
The codex thing?

Icl my w3 skill are all so bad
Its that explaination pop up that explains what the refinery does.
ur new to the game
Idk maybe just exit the map and rejoin
I think its a matter of skill lv
I tried everything its there for about 5 days
I haven't unlocked nullo salts yet ๐
How many kills you get per hour ?
and what map you are at w6
the one above that is envelope right..?
Bad saltlock

anything else would you guys want to see?

W7
I just go dB
already there
reading is hard
Does nullo require frigid souls btw idr
: )
Fuck
I wanna see the inside
I have to do my td
indeed
I haven't gotten past wave 20 yet
idk you dont really need that many tbh
Just !guide
Partly because I'm lazy tho
I hit 1b and never went back for more and its been months lmao
Fuckkkk I should also craft skulls for all my characters
Some of these skills seem so long
oh I mistook it, yeah I was wondering about doublon thx
I mean I can guess that
At least I think 3 sources don't work above a certain speed percent
Ofc I leave and come back!
Still here...
The tiptoe quickness, idk, idk
Only thing I can think of that's any good is statues
Even the movement speed salt lick doesn't work above 170% pretty sure
Ye salt lick
Statues being the only good one seems stupid to me
I am god
Wo
If there's an alchemy movement speed boost I wonder if it multiplies or adds with statues
Well I can't see anything about mvm speed in alch
Check the AC guide
Oki
Turns out there is a literal movement speed sigil
And I don't have it unlocked. I'm already above the cap for it to stop working!
For under x% ye
175% is the highest
dchef and lary first
And yet you can get over 1000% movement speed
Oh ok
Then I assume the 2nd bubble from each cauldron?
Yeah the only real valid not class based sources
Are the stamp and statue for movement speed
And that's it. Everything else is either class based talents, some sort of gear, or limited by/at 200% movement speed
definitely not "best" but it will make the last 5-8 meals effortless
Just use pots
Now the REAL question is: Is the movement speed stamp ADDITIVE or MULTIPLICATIVE with the statue (and vice versa)
I mean I will/now do after finding out the alchemy thing
pretty much all stamps are additive
U dont really need that much speed in early anyway
speed pots will do more for you
Mhm I'm sure I don't need that much of anything early
Still nice to have, plus who doesn't want to move faster
I mean even with being fast I'm still gonna teleport, just for active farming e.g. crystal it'd be nice
Since I'm nowhere near onyx (actually I am starting to get near onyx, I have about 3k power statues and will continue to get them)
Back
You got a prisma ?
Nope
Ok you got db
I'm window shopping for the future
But you still need to get arcane cultist
aod
99% dchef didn't help as much.. e91 -> e92
Are you pushing him ?
need everything early 
K I'll try
new future content 
(Prisma it trust)
Diamond chef is first to prisma early game
mine only went from ~E120 to E122 but it insta 110 all meals which wouldve taken months each 
didn't help me much but tbf I don't have good ribbons on cook spd meals
Same ๐ฅฒ
now I just max out the incubator time and card dr chance
btw do pots stack like 10 small turns into one big ?
Bruh I keep forgetting to do the spike minigame
Nobody does them
its only .04x difference 
Yeah but I want gems ๐ฅฒ
I'm trying to get draconic cauldron
do 150 bosses daily
I don't have enough keys ๐
you dont have 150 keys? ..

I have about 5
Want gems, killtroy
and spam buy arcade game balls
weeeee
its a 0.001% chance to get 2500 gems ๐ค
you do bosses daily to do killroy twice anyways
Uge
expensive as shit tho
What's cc
.. oh no
me watching all my arcade balls land in purple just to hit dice and do nothing

Bubo 
Oh cranium cooking
went from 30s/cycle to 29s/cycle absolutely huge difference
Cranium cooking, the alchemy leveling thing. Do you have 200 talents yet
No ๐ฅ
Oh yeah when you get choco chip start grinding g hampters
youre close to pretty much max
hm what's the lowest people get
time to work on talents 
idk what the lowest is but this is what am at 
what should I lvl in atom collider? I unlocked the first 4 upgrades, what next?
still some room from con mastery tho, my guess for max would be 20s
mhm
For red balls is right tilt always the way
not bad, so now I'm just waiting for refinery to get higher ranks
I do no tilt 
whadyall picking
Dr of course ๐ค
I have a feeling it'll be DR
Div 
people see dr and vote even tho its additive
div is technically the best choice but dr is the most favoured vote now
for once I would want refinery because of saltlock
additive dr over div is wild
unfortunate cus im gonna get to world 5 in a few days
me when people want 0.6ร dr over 450 talents
coulda got carried by weekly
shocking
Bruh why did they limit the number of unlinks a week
60% dr additive or not is still pretty good for me :b
"of course"
bro 28.4 into 29 is not huge
28 dr with dr cape.....
took forever but I think everything pre w6 is in atom range now
you will literally never notice that 29ร dr helping
Still some extra Kebabs from colo
Eh I get like 7k kills on my bubo on the first mob w6
or some extra statues
I need to work on carp for atom range...
im at the point where it would actually help and id still prefer the div
I don't think I used a single salt on any of them, was purely nblb
bro im mid w4
he is new player its okay 
Alr buddy
AND?
yeye that's what I mean, just finished my dchef/card drop/incubator
where do you think im gonna get 10 from
Ok so we're shaming people with low drop rates now ๐๐
my dr is already hard carried by owl
yo wth my nugget went from 250k to 2.2mil
my carp proc'd a few days ago, shot it to 700s instantly xD
I never even noticed
How do I upgrade these
first of all cards, then obols
enchanting jar, but also don't bother yet
you gotta grind rupies
The 5th jar type. Be really careful about unlocking more collectables though
if you think im card farming already ur crazy
ok
Alr ig
what lvl did you get into atom range? didya disable the vial doubler node? from lab
you guys are def better than me so i rather just shut up
oh wait that's a thing? never thought about it xD nope
I think it was somewhere in the 300s
very early 300s like 302 or whatever
Yeah push w6 first imo get the timer started on all the slow shit. I did the same thing and every time i posted my 5 dr or whatever people responded like this and i ignored them lol
...
damn I've been missing out then hahahaha I think my dchef was at like 130 before it got in range
No choco chip i assume right
Just try to do dr-agnostic stuff as you can until it comes back and then go to town, worked well for me
honestly my carp is really really far seemingly from atom range
thought you said you had 99% 
200 is atom range or 206
well just based on your dchef ratio to when mine was.... I think you're only like 80ish lvls away
dchef
not carp
but you need to remove the lab node to have it
Lab, div, hole, pushing to master class, vman unlock. Lots of stuff to do that youโre at basically full effectiveness at 3 dr and youโll wanna get the clock started on hole stuff/ omniphau/farming/summoning and stuff more than you need your dr to go from 3 to 5 (with no choco chip! so you arenโt double dipping into statues/gfood yet)
sad, getting all other bubbles to 200+ will be a hassle
99 dchef is 1287 
more then that
well maybe not, I was looking at my prismad dchef but forgot theres buffs for higher %s
so what should i do next to beat this?
what..
grind more pets
welp wiki doesnt even think 1.3x is possible so who knows
oh nvm thats not a w6 teritority fight lol
unlock these 2
any particular ones :=
prisma booster I think throws it off
thank you
lame
like it's doubled but also 1.2x'd or something
slackin
prisma bonuses enjoyer
expect not cause it hard caps
whats your agi bubble at
10k
whats the bonus
I hope gold ball and prisma both come back in arcade shop with w7. I want to blueball the gold balls and then level +blue prisma
the true prisma bonuses enjoyer moment
is it doubled too?
yes it is
sheesh


You doubled all the main stat ones right?
how is it so low, I only 3d printer click twice daily
Cause somethings in the game dont like the idea of you CCing
my sigils feels so slow lol
most likely cause you CC 
I wonder if weโre close to candy click viability lol Iโm around the same
nope

here's my shame on full display
mines not great either
I tried my first batch yesterday and found out that resource eff isn't my bottleneck
finally able to CC again tho so now I need to build water production to be able to alch again
carry caps a big thing with it
carry cap is for qol but not the real bottle neck (depending on where your acc is I guess)
high hourlys obv important, but if you can make 1T an hour with 100m carry cap.. you'll spend more time transferring the rss then actually leveling your bubbles 
classic wrong emoji again
why you copying me bruh 
hey guys, is there a way in W4 to increase shiny critter rate?
ive seen the alchemy one and the beast master skill
currently i use the beast master skill to collect the critters
but shinies seem so rare and i need to craft dementia shoes ๐
lmao
check the bottom of trapping wiki page
my water productions so buns man 
I'm guessing that's 4 dracs right
nada
same
same 
only noobs
fk
imagine not having last draconic
I filled the forge with all the xtra copper yesterday and now it stole from my refinery...
I gotta go gmush proc this shit out
u mean the skill mastery thing?
I have the mason jar exalted and i can exalt the chopp/mining bags as well at this point and i got the star sign doubler chip and i bought the gem shop carry cap thing a couple times so maybe im in range..? Ill check at some point idk lol
And for liquid cap i have two dragonics and i cant see the rate on IT and im not home but i think its like 160 without viaductโฆ liquid gain stamp exalted
Idont have it either honestly I almost forgot all about it
I need 720 more gems
so you have 3 without the one from the shop ?
Help plz, what should I lvl in atom collider? I unlocked the first 4 upgrades, what next?
was not expecting to get an extra 62 atom clicks for a single level in collider LOL
just get whatever you can, the 5th one is pretty good for alchemy
if you keep resampling when you unlock really good skilling based accwide upgrades you just jump orders of magnitude in atom production
order doesn't matter after a certain point
it becomes an issue of where to spend them 
@full beacon your daily atom bubbles resets when you level boron, though you dont get the x2 from gambit. Thats why you should level it, spend bubble clicks, before level again
well it's too late for that at least for lvl 5 through 30
pretty sure I forgot about it for like 3 weeks and just maxed it instantly
just got 31 a few days ago from something... WW?
WW indeed
RIP all them atom clicks


it's ok I already waste atoms on candyable stuff
pretty sure 95% of my larry lvls are atom
why is this such a scuffed bubble
like wym 30...
anyone for carring me?
Yippee minus salt rank ups I got first two salts almost automated
Ty now I gotta wait for red salts to rank up
my salts need more red but its like 2d to next rankup
I think Iโm nearly done with nullo (all ten past troll AND all ten past the trap and skull step that need 10k nullo each). Some time in the next week or two
not done until you max out primordial shrine 
And then once all the other tools are past the purple/green salts i might turn off that part of the refinery to work on the skull/trap upgrades that take 100k+ orange/blue
i dont think nullo is a problem when it comes to primordial shrine 
So far down my list compared to marbiglass tools that it isnโt a consideration lol
My next goal is set bonuses, maybe master classes, actually work on td, and get equinox challenges dealt with
But getting to the point where i have like 1,000,000 spare blue without ever shutting off greenโฆ. Iโll just shut off green for a week, whatever
im getting there slowly, ive not turned off green yet
i never shutoff my refinery anymore. everything is on full power 
My medium term to-do list is godshard gear for everyone (except vman weapon lmao), lv650 for everyone, resample
i wish i had better ranks but i really cant do anything about it anymore
3 more carry bags to go shadow

Yeah ive never done it before but i think green/purp/nullo production is gonna be pretty low value after im done making gear with it and id rather have the tools faster
also finally gotten all my mining and logging stuff to 1050m at once now
forgot one
which i alsoooo got all their respective vials to max
equinox log
fuck equinox log 
just print 
yeah afk isnt printing
i thought it would just pop out that you cant get a sample for it cause youd need to active it
ohhhh this saves SOOOO MUCH TIME
note for me to add this in my guide

i was gonna be waiting on doing the equinox resources until i had like Q's in eff to just speed up the process
when r u gonna finish the guide 
i just started it. moved to excel 
all i did so far
sorry for flashbang
i have almost all the information saved anyway
also in case i forgot to add smth let me know
complete guide sheet would be like breakdown of everythinggg right?
pretty much
cause then talent guide might need an update
alr saved what jiof made


no one notice me good 
Qwaser

what in the world happend to your name
makes sense
google translate suck
ใฏใงใคใตใผ ใใญใใ็ใฎใๅงซๆงใ(หถห แต หหถ)
Qwaser (Droprate Princess) (หถห แต หหถ)
Queza
Lop Rate XD
ใถ and ใต are different with 2 dots
400x Lops
yeah yeah we understand Queza stop lying to us

you are not qwaser
good 
last one to go
chizoar is diabolical
thats only for smithy, his ass would be in amarok otherwise
I was just handing the kruk sets over between characters while doing those pushes
i did my grind to skydoggies with no nobisect before swoldier reminded me 
Lmao
Well. Itโs more class exp that way i guess cause it takes twice as many kills
100k damage gemstone done 
sleepy duck
were slowly getting there shadow
I just got the rift, is there anything I can do with all these rocks or just kill the 500 slimes in 5 mins
the skulls and traps could go up
looking good
the tools are up to the highest armor i have and splicers up to w4
so its just the skulls traps, and then getting them all troll
Uge
is this you mr duck?
I don't have a character named John
lol

time to reset account
as punishment, you now need to make a vman only account with all Johns
My 11th character will have John 
john the vman
john the berserker
JohnDuckDuckington 
dam nvm
john the arcane wizard
90% eff is lvl 630, 99% eff is lvl 6930
Damn. Thank you 
or do the big brain play and dont level it and ignore the rest of the bubbles as well 
fun fact, all of them are useless to get to 100k
(they cap before it)
its more to flex then to gain anything
idk when they cap exactly so i just go for 100k
he could increase the caps one day so it doesnt hurt to go above 
true
im just lazy 
i think i will push to m5 in case he adds a new mastery in w7
I'm about to do the 100k ladle equinox quest, what food should I use it on?

Smart
I've been stubburnly sitting at m4 floor 10 for the like .000000001 chance it hits the door instead of going back to buff lmao




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