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pretty sure its over halff way
for deer yea
thats from eternal dear talent
the number represents deer kills
damn I'm not killing many deer then
each one multiplies dust gain by %
each deer slain causes the next ones health to be higher
dear kill count resets upon skill ending/being used again or map switch
its based off of mob hp i think
17 isnt half bad
that is reused art isnt lol, for the w6 miniboss
i can get like 50 in W2 but only luike 20-30 in W3
i have 0 clue :D
having an elemental ring helps alot, since the deer will inherit the same weakness as the mobs on the map 
help what does this mean, i need 2 alchemic or what
and dont forget that abom and mobs can differ in weakness
swap position of looter and refiller if you have alchemic gene unlocked
i dont need to put alchemic pet in team?
no, looter will have a chance to use the alchemic skill if u have the gene unlocked
anybody down to dance with me? im on dice 4
If i pop the hunter talent 'Arena spirit" should i not be able to enter arena after i had done it for the day?
unforunfortunately i am only W3
you need to pop it before youve done it at all
it doenst set the CD of area to 0
oh yea that makes so much sense now damn
dang D: good luck my guy! you're almost there
ty
i am indeed!
i think literally everyone gets owned by it the first time because the normal assumption is what you assumed lol
there's one guy dancing here with me if anyone wants to join
I there
yeah! >:D we need 4 more people if anyone else wants the achievement
If possible post it in general chat.
this part of AC's annoying for me lol. i'm needing to boost my acc to get past rams which i think will fairly quickly cause a big increase in both accuracy and tachyons. but i don't have the accuracy or tachyon gain to do it fast. and the sources of tachyons i'm missing don't exist in the game currently (arcade shop, pristine mostly)
ah well. if i got past this i'd just get to something else where i'd be stuck. but it feels bad to not be able to buy upgrades often
posted on both... we just need 2 more people guys i am On My Knees Begging :(
what server?
dice 4
dice4!
what a noob @mint quartz fr
DONT EXPOSE MY UGLY ASS LAB RINGS
not even souped up...
where is your w7 gear smh??
Slot?
wdym? :0
we hit the achievement already and some people left, but 4 of us are still dancing in dice4 if you wanna come and bring a friend
Do u have any slot for me to join in
i just got back from the shops, you still need help?
NOT EVEN SOUPED
Need the achievement
SMH
the more the merrier! no limit :3
i got the achievement, but sclythe needs it, so if you have time to jump to Dice4 that'd be great :D
im too lazy ๐ญ im waiting on flurbos for opal rings
we boogie
you need flurbos for them?>
yessirrr
yea they are like 10k each
for emp reings or souiped lab rings?
you coming? :3
the emp rings
i know about emp rings lol
i too am grinding for them myself
however am lazy
what does souped rings need that needs flurbos
@minor scroll did you get it?
soup doesn't need flurbs
yea i was trying to say im waiting on opal rings already so i dont bother upgrading any of my ring slots now
time to 2 min claim til i get it
No
come come
@minor scroll come here! we have everyone in place :D dice 4
Cant
Its 2am

oh D:
ill come get it for you tomorrow
ping me tmr if you need it too!
looks like a burger 
Borger
prisma dchef
bone marrow moment
ah
and prisma chef
bone marrow doesnt affect fire spd
prisma dchef 
it effects cvooking speed iirc?
is it rly that impactful sob
Upgrade the kitchen
ye
i just want to get cooking done with so i might just prioritize it over carpenter
i have e75 without it 
Some meals and vials
its insanely big
either way im stuck at goblins on AC so idk what to do abt that but just cry
im still very very far from 400 talent lvl
how about u go sleep
Sob
do an overnight grind and youll be able to get some bubbles
I should
1.3^x vs 2.6^x, you can do the math
im still at goblins aswell and got like 14 overnight the first day i did it
if u lived here it'd only be 8pm 
yea i get like 1 or 2 per night

would anyone have a checklist for lab xp?
my dchef is a bit neglected
Shadow has
bc im just trying to unlock bop box
what are the inventory bags beside "Mamooth Hide Bag"? I dont seem to find it on wiki
look toolbox or it
i need to see his full name to use search from: shadow
but tyvm, ill look for them in search
Shadow the solid w7 prep
perfect just
i just need to match up the soul gain boost food with the amt of charge i need right?
literally 0 left
i dont think so but idk
or does this count as 1 claim
so i would need 12 of these
or ig 11 bc it rounds down
itll just leave like 30 ish charge
what armour should I have to push world 4
just craft 100 or 200
amarok
amarok till you can craft troll
amarok with w4 stones was fine for me
then recraft for w5 stones
or jsut craft 400 and put them on each player
man my waves are so cooked
idk how to progress in worship tho bc i just get cooked by the stun thingies
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
lmao
Voidinator
Look at worship guide
Voidinator will solve htat
you need a W5 mob drop for it iirc
What does voidinator even do
final TD construction tower
Debuff
it hates mobs of colour
my towers might still be too low lvl
and strips away their specialty
Like removes their effects?
reverting them to base mob no effect
Ahhh makes sense
voidinator gets stunned or it attacks too slow and doesnt actually strip it
party starter exists?
or does party starter not effect it
wave 22 is not enough to buff it enough before it gets overwhelmed
also i thought it striped mobs of their colour property
wave 22 for what?
W3 worship does get a lil annoying when they spawn like 10 stun snowmen
the w3 one
oh lmfao thats easy
its like the 2nd or 3rd wave of mini yellow
you jsut need more levels and more points
Check the pinned in here
or
hear me out
do a few waves with spaced out towers
save
end run
laod run
place down the voidniators and party starters and other things
i forgot the stated lvl
789
i havent unlocked saving yet
also i must say that i am an anomoly but i can get to wave 100 without void
200 on tent
High level
preferably hoigher
so basically i shouldnt be lvling bubo at all then
im only using what W3 has given me
At least 350 ig
But lv 150 boulder roller
And 150 kraken
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High
hoenstly the real MVP
need gaming 
wdym
@minor scroll ๐ 
Gn ig
is there a reason why my oranges are slowly going down in number
i am having hard time searching for it on toolbox as I dont even have the name...Or do you mean some other toolbox and not the website?
isnt 22 meant to be greater than 20
I wont have a goodnight
and what do atoms have to do with towers?
u get tower lvl from atom collider
why :(
hmm
also i will get more levels when i reach W4
need W5 then ig
it for example
thats all bags isnt it?
and if you hoiver over it it tells you the name
so poisonic elder is useless until lv 200 smth?
@jagged rampart also on ie
ahh i have to log in
ye it helps
@woeful karma @minor scroll oh wait, i meant bubo the tower not bubo the character
i was very confused bc i was completely thinking abt tower defense
Stop pinging
gn
its just poisonic 
ohh posonic elder?
This guy is a lucky lad
Gn to all, not myself
its not bubo lmfao
just poisonic
i called it bubo bc i was asking abt tower defense and its basically the same thing
gn to u bud
ig
it most certianly isnt bubo tho dont forget that
from first to 4th is
-Fighting AFK
-Skilling AFK
-Drop Rate
-Multikill
i think its okay ill replace a couple with emp cards once i get them
mb, so wt lvl is poisonic usable at over boulder?
uh
with out without card doublers?
maybe 30?
without atm, working on getting my first
i dont have it
later switch up the order a bit
cant make it yet
oh yea youre locked to w3 or smth right
i know i needed to switch the order, i just couldnt find any like excel or screenshots for the best setups etc did ask but never got answers 
do you guys bail if stone #1 fails on a new bow or do you try like 3-4
how early one are we talking
uhhh first one I guess
cause like if youre pushing world 5 you could probably get the stones to just insta max a bow relatively easy
W4 soon 
but if youre pushing world 1 i just dumped all stones into one early on
i have these, prolly not perfect but they seem usable :v @polar geyser
and if it went 1/5 i sitll used it til i got a new one
i hjust use all 4
what world are you in now
maybe i should switch troll with bunny
godsendddd
if multiple proc cool if they dont oh well
are you like fully maxxing out the entirety of W3 before going to w4? like even atomic and stuff?
but i save m best ring/bow base % for a 500 stone assured upgrade
also dont have the 50% non -1 slot thing yet
I WOULD MAX ATOM COLLIDER IF I COULD MAKE IT
lmao
but yeah im maxing a lot of stuff
im in world 4 atm and im still using a bow that went like 2/5 i think from bop boxes in world 3
and im just saving stones for when i get a world 4 bow to try insta max it when i get a good roll
i will not be maxing this
this shrine is ass and only serves to give building total levels
well
ill get it to 100 in W4
at least
just not in W3
i dont want to be in W3 for another 3 months solely due to primordial
construction progression is very confusing bc i only got the build rate to make atom when i was in w6 lmao
lmao
atom needs W5 mob drop
ah
from purg skulls iirc
posonic needs purp mush W4 mat
voidinator needs a W4 mat too iirc
or perhap[s its late W4 mob mat
pretty sure W5 tho
this 16 QQ door is rough chat, its taken 2 days alreayd
uhhh you prob need to grind gems or grind jade on that floor to upgrade your knucks lvl
2 days is a lot
player exp bonus go brr
you wanna know whats funny tho
i built up to atom collider within the first week of being in W3 iirc
is 1k purple mushroom kills good or no?
per hour?
dude what the hell
how do ppl just eye ball the placement to where 3 towers can fit to the right of it?
he is missing the mastery level buffs but its a biggg progress on it
wild
just build all 4 starting from the right
people normally place down like a shit tower down hwoever many and then delete them after
it was funny
what?
they place the KC tower first probs
do a tower gap
eyyy here comes the goat
easy to measure
I never realised but that is lowkey crazy to max these buildings in World 3. (ofc before any max lvl increase)
and if you can't, you either have no hands or have dyscalcia
is it?
your construction looks heavenly xd
I mean I wish I could do that but it takes time to do so.
i can understand if one includes both primordial and undeath
but the rest didnt take too long thankfully
true ig
time + foundations solves a lot of stuff
fair note
these are base levels
100 shrine
50 towers
101 library
15 drone
what?
oh lol
^
thats the weirdest shit ive seen but i respect it
Nice, that should go in the Achievement Pics
but when I was at W3 I couldn't stop there as I was time pressured to push and improve. I don't regret as W4 Lab and W5 Divinity is both something I can't live without
ill probs do that before i head off to W4 lol
true
lab jail and div jail are unreal
my only saving grace is there is a chance i can escape lab jail before i unlock div jail lmao
idk how hard/long it would take for me
It is actually lowkey painfull to play on alt accounts without World 5
Eh, the reason you kinda do Div Jail is to get back into Lab Jail
as someone who has never gone past W3 i can thankfully say ive never had that feeling
I'm suffering from that rn 
but what if i finish lab jail in W4
210 lab on everyone
Hardest decision to put both my db in the lab
2700 total levels
The thing is at your stage your not going to experience Jail in the very sense others go through Lab and Divinity Jail
iirc is the core of lab jail
2100
really?
wont it take me a while to get to 2100?
2100 Total, but then like 500 for your Bubo/AC
ah right 2100 700 per gem
I suggest getting most of your skill mastery done before pushing to 210
Well, typically the first lab jail refers to unlocking the powerful nodes like Killer Brightside and Refinery so you can rush into W5.
Tho u can get to 140
It will but you won't have much to do other than Splice DNA for breeding, Craft W4 recipes and keep Lab active.
the catching and chopping neglect is unreal somehow
Start at this point
Actually when I think about it, Rift will actually be quite fun for you.
ah yeah once i get Vman i will actually level everything side from town skills which imalready leveling
Those 6-7 25% skill exp helps alot 
because you will meet different aspects of your fighting that will be lacking, like damage (which won't at the start because of your crazy W3 dmg) attack speed, talent lvls & max lvls, movement speed and more iirc...
additive but true it will
you will yearn for more improvements
attack speed will be low due to only the bubble helping me atm but i heard thtere is a meal for it
talent levels wont be too bad as i can get lv 200 on every talent when max booked with ES family bonus and Symbols
movement speed i dont really have too much of a problem with thankfully esp on archers they be zoomin
oh i will
how important is lab off the bat, cus locking most of my characters up sounds awful
of which cooking and lab and rift will provide me with great sustainece 
Very important
Don't worry W4 will be the arc where you deactivate your characters as you either improve or push for world 5.
even with my stable foundations i too must upload all of my players for the most part XD
tho question
i know bubo has that one talent that says al the right gain more exp
and lab player placement is based off of when you put them in
I recon up to 7 characters to 9 at the start.
eventually you can have 2-3 characters outside at all times.
if i take out bubo and place him back in does he terutn to the first slot/slot i put him in
or does he get moved ot the end
It is based off of their position on the Node Board, not order uploaded
although gemshop for Lab is based on order uploaded
ah
ig ill figure that out then
wow even just 1/3 dust rings makes such a huge diff
maybe im confusing the requirements of the two
probably but we will get to that once your there
true
so basically push with squire/dv when i get the upgrade and everyone else just sits in jail?
I recommend to have all but one in jail as you get all characters one by one to Elite before you do anything like pushing or catching up
-# .
Any computer experts in chat?
there were two who majored in IT related things in chat earlier this morning
sadly they are both not in caht now
I guess I should specify computer components experts (For Gaming)
would like to ask for some opinions in #off-topic-chat
ohhh my b
Is it good to rush the artifact upgrade in rift
It is good to push rift as far as you can in general, so yeah
well got through soda cans now too, think I should get more stones for the rest
its hard to rush it if your dmg isnt high enough so get as far as you can get
dont force rift unless ur down to cheese it for a day for the last few afk progress ones
Rift is so slow
it is hard to rush it if your lacking some of these: Dmg, Atk Spd, Movment Spd or Talents.
You made me remember that i dont have vial mastery
u are better off pushing worlds / doing other things instead in most cases
i had like 100k+ kills per hour near the end to push for rift 56
Time to go fix that

so i wouldnt recommend it if its that slow
I have 80k per hour
ok so im pretty much ready to clear maccies i just need to get arcane charging at 153
yeah i recommend around 100k an hour at least if u really want to do rift
:(
Ok so I just need more damage right
Dont be sad
preferably higher, my db alone had 600k kph, allowed me to push rift while i was in w5
Ok i'll go spend my 200 aethermoons on sheepies without checking for better spots
Wow what 600k
Why
thankfully
dont.. use them all on 1 dust 
Fnuy
whatโs that mean
it wont take longer than u think imo, u will gain dmg without realising over time
I think i can kill mr mustaches
ynnuF
Everything is very slow now
sailing is very slow
When does gaming get duper goober fast
I think with chemical plant
to get higher kph right away tho - prayers, alchemy, food buffs, cooking + ribbon, bb's level for family tree bonus, etc
as you use moons, your stats will get better so try to push as you do it
but I canโt unlock it

Dont even have one before it
ah sailing is disgusting early game, it gets somewhat better late
I'll spread then across stacks of 10
u just have to suffer for about 2 weeks time ish and u will be ramping up slowly
it's actually 1 by 1 usage, not like bones
Oh so im fine
indeedo
But I keep hitting slug limit
I accidentally used like 150 bones at once
only 13
F
mid game also sucks since the last island can take up anything from roughly 6 hours to 4 days for 1 round trip
150...
Iโm still unlocking island 7
yes/no, the quests give a TON of sailing candy
it takes 12 hours
just have to find sources of sail speed
I think i should set ALL sailors to spore meadow
quests kinda make sailing free
For eldritch fury relic
Who?
thats so true i actually got away with most of mid game w spamming the pirate quest
ok I should actually do their quest wow
there is a pirate piggy at uhh was it maccies ?
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for alchemy, with how relatively cheap it is in terms of atoms compared to raw materials, is 3d printing just until the atom range?
I spent those too early
you should do every quest on one char
And now i starve
Poigu and Slargon
basically yeah
its something like 200 free sailing candies
What 200
I live off omniphau's gentleness
its pretty op
or if you can hourly print
thatโs crazy
just make sure to only use 1 at a time
this is cursed, bean not having his signature bean pfp
which needs 1b per hour
If you do it in all slots yeah
ok time to grind all them quests on all characters
didnt even notice it was bean cause of it 
Multitool
sailing stamp is great but do not exalt it at all
I need that wow
correct div 50
I have 2 exalts now
i think its 50 at least 
Used 1 on mason jar
good pick
i swear div early was the most painful thing ive ever experienced
Carry cap is big issue
Crystal spawn , carry cap , maybe multitool , golden Apple is the order i did
Ok thanks guys, night
thank god i had doot and we had that shrine week few months back
Doot saved me from the pain
All hail free pull
alr, that means i can change my prints up now
yup same here, multi crystal carry cap, golden apple, and then all the specific carry caps
now i can actually start candying alchemy without spamming left click and codex storage
Whats the limit of stamps that can be bought with WW?
liquid productions a good exalt as well if possible
Is there is one
no clue but it is very limited to say the least, i'd give it roughly 5/6? i cant remember
I cook craniums
I cook the craniums
i bought all the exalted stamps from the event + got a handful from ww but i have 0 now after exalting about 10 ish
I was not playing at the event time
I cant wait to unlock next upgrade it will def help me push more AC and its 100% not an useless upgrade
Terrible fate
thankfully there isnt a ton of good stamps, almost just enough exalts available to get everything good
I'll focus on fury relic for level 200 talents
Exalted quest XP stamp
yeah like aod said, plus if u focus on ww for a bit i think u will get most of the important stamps
you.. dont like opals.. 
even exalts to do questionable things 
DB and AC both functuion like upgrade vault ive gathered
its villager exp not opals and no i dont like them
Squire masterclass is technically a downgrade
btw i did it :3
what does WW function like then?
He goes from a divine knight to a Royal knight
upgrade tree
summoned
oh it is villager xp, was looking at cataclysm 2
Spreading roots
man i love htis
blind ahh
are the digital or bit
its pretty cheap which is nice ig
no i mean like something else in the game
doesnt summoning have something vaugly similar?
?..
im at w3 trying to get all elite classes should i get all charcters dimentia armor or amrok or smth else?
all the MCs play the same if thats what youre asking 
so WW is just fully new?
they have hte same idea but displayed differently ig
yeah its kinda like summoning if i think now
rn most of them just have the armor that give them class efficient
DB and AC upgrade like upgrade vault
WWs one of the most painful to push into w6 with the aboms
WW appears to upgreade kinda like summoning or something i think?
oh the compass UI, its pretty different from grim n tesseract
DB and AC upgrade thing is just upgd vault
theres 5 upgrade paths that unlock different types of buffs
yea thats what i was talking about
Its like summoning IMO
very
some1 pls answer
im not W6 but from my vauge memory it reminded me of that
!gear
amarok
full amarok w gold helm carries to w6
Seeing opals hurts me deeply
hi shadow
?
amarok helmet is good to craft now for smithy
Cuz i cant find a party to clear the dungeon completely
oh yea
so he could go amarok helmet too
In happy hour
also hi
oh this?
i just take what rng gives me
What stats should I aim for before I start card farming W4?
are you in W4 or cardfarming W4?
Cardfarming W4
Big DR and KPH
i only got my first opal rings this week ๐คท
59x DR/23mKPH enough or is it going to suck still
I kinda forget, but it shouldn't be too bad with those. Try a 1hr candy and see how many cards you get, decide from there.
Trying to active farm w/ ES so not sure how representative candy will be
I wouldn't bother then, aside from Genies. I 5 starred W1-5 entirely with candy back before W6 dropped. And you have probably more DR than I did back then.
Candies make everything better
if i can survive w4 clear but it slow af should i get better armor or just push slowly xD
got mining, chopping, fishing, and catching... curious to what the 5th would be
damn i did a big farming turn-in and upgraded ribbons on crop evo meals and got the star sign doubler and got a grand total of zero new crops on my new farm lol
w7 already looks interesting
and ofc lava is crazy good at isometric pixel art too
sadly, the Crop Evo meals are very underpowered. Your only option after a while is the Evo GMO in the nightmarket, it's the only buff that scales hard enough to be worth.
Crossover soon ๐ stardew valley slime > emperor
so to get to E153 to get all crops its only nightmarket..?
Tf is this
farming w6 skill
Basically yeah. Do your diligence on the other things, mostly just your Land Ranks, but the only thing big enough to keep up with the 20x Evo req per crop is the GMO
okay thx mr zebra

i don't wanna do active gaming clicking but i do wanna get those ten atom levels.... my life is so hard.....
Hey when the wiki says the max talent level from the library is 301 "with all winner bonuses multipliers", is that with literally all of the ones that exist, a feasible max, or that it'll cap out at 301 no matter what?
how much crops
202 rn
the winner bonus multiplier ones from endless summoning have a specific carveout that they do NOT boost library book level and the +301 is from every other one maxed out, as far as i know
Literally the max at the moment, with everything.
my problem is it feels low
yeah i'm at 190 crops and i get like 1000M on my last big turn-in :x
I get 1-2B per landplot
hm
how many crops are you at?
Wait so have I been grinding endless for nothing 
222
not NOTHING but not for library book levels no. if talent level is a focus its still huge for that off of equinox max level
then i guess i will just push those more
i dont know any other method of increasing beans gains
i'll send u something 1 sec
okay
Oh I see. I'm still working towards equinox symbols but yeah that makes sense. At least it's good to know that the library max is hard set at the moment with the external bonuses to summoning
yeah i wish it said taht somewhere in game or more clearly in resources, i only found out from someone telling me in here lol
also in case you ddin't know its like actually impossible to find pristine charms until he changes it again, 0% chance currently, so don't bank on finding the summoning bonus one. without it and without godshard set i don't think we can get past +292
gate keepings crazy 
how many insta grows you guys have?
never checked after achiev
and the achievement is to just use 100 on crops right?
hm okay
!refinery
The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.
then i guess i need to buy more
ah ye get more

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neglecting farming seems to somewhat pay off 
how do you get more splice
Splicer
beat the current on you see, if that doesnt unlock more then you need to push to unlock more worlds 
oh splice i read it as spice fml
yea but i get like 3k per 1 hour time candy
more kills - more genes
theres no other way to increase it? or get it faster?
More kph do 2 minute claims
splice follows sqrt(kills) or sum like that i cant recall exact formula. u can do low time claims to get more
alright
cringe
Best map to farm W4 crystal mobs?
clammies
check pins as you can see every statue actually. and for w6 as aparently its not updated the best map is minichiefs
Dk for clammies right?
yep
really?
i wouldnt say SDV
it reminds me of a different game
ofc ic ant remeber the game name
which is annoying
never gone to the mines in sdv 
you havent?
it reminds me of crypt of the necrodancer
Hello ! I just unlocked the trap drone and I noticed that I can place Silkskin traps on character that don't have any trap box equipped. Is that normal ? Do they get the bonus from my Hunter traps ?
that would be why then

How do i see my crystal mob chance
?
YES THATS CLOSER
gah what game was it
you literally clear rocks till you find the ladder down wdym 
it might have been COTND but it could have been a different game
the style is very different
i am a fiflthy cave goblin in stardew
there is never enough time in the day for me for my desired mining trip
it doesnt have to be the same art style to have the same concept behind it 
ngl i kinda want to play SDV now
specifically co-op
but alas
no friends
fair enough
but is that what happened in thius case?

i thought the rocks and the way down were unrelated
I have no idea what type of node could be added thats new tbh
related to masterclass ig?
could be
you can purchase stuff with them or somethin
spelunking with treasure pile nodes 
its a node like mining tho
yea
or maybe it's all the nodes, like you would find different trees and stuff on diff floors
hence why my thoughts are that the stuff collected from them might be used on bonuses
kinda like AC with its crystal multi on DR EXP and AFK per map
sorta?
this part confuses me so idk 
can you sample traps?
trapping is sampling ๐คฃ
if it just sticks to the summoning concept then splunking likes a far guess, but then it could also have a mining/chopping/fishing/catching too it as well 
you can automate collection via W4 rift upgrade tho
How do I calculate expected number of shinies for a silkskin trap? Is it base value x quantity multiplier x shiny multiplier x xhiny rate x (other multipliers) or just base value x shiny multiplier x shiny rate x (other multipliers)
Critters? No
I guess you want to put a trap down with all characters then, and collect using hunter
get trapping drone and place all traps via hunter on trapping drone
its unlocked via building in construction
it is pretty good
later on in W4 rift you get something that collects all traps once a day
so you can run traps that are 20h or 40h or etc
and it will collect them without you having to collect them
(whether or not shinies take quantity multiplier into account is important because it's a 35x difference in how many i can expect to get, and I'm not sure if they do)
quanity is quantity
quantity is the only way to increase shiny critter gain rate
Silkskin traps have a shiny multiplier too
once you hit 100% shiny rate you will always get a shiny
I was wondering if both will be taken into account
thats chance if im not mistaken?
i could be tho
wdym?
its shiny chance multiplier, if you proc a shiny, you only get 1 shiny critter unless you have the prayer equipped
critter gain rate
exp gain rate
shiny chance rate
?
ah ok
the prayer is the only wayto get more then 1 per trap afaik like i said
ah ok
once you hit 100% and have max shiny snitch prayer thats it
no more shiny critters
that's what snitch is for
get ready for 20m frog traps on royal or silk traps wooooo
i get 9.5k psn frogs every 20m its real fun
me when i don't have rift so i have to manually collect those traps every 20 mins
rift doesn't fix that problem
vacuum procs once a day, on your first log in to any character, regardless if traps are ready or not
you can waste it
as i also just said earlier
rift only collects once a day
In about an hour i will complete the rift idk why i neglected it
edit: me when i have to manually collect those traps every 20 mins
lmao yeah its pain
um..
you either sit in W3 town collecting every 20 mins
or active somewhere and tp back to town every 20m to collect
tho
i wonder if i can just remote claim via eagle eye bc shiny isnt effect by collect rate
youd lose out on normal critters tho i do know
good xp and its free tome score
Damn
also can you show me your rupie value rq?
How did you raise your effeciency like that?
sure, where do I see that 
i just changed my talent preset and cards
hole and jar section on IT
...

lmao

and...
No i meant overall
whats the best area for w1? gm?
I do have some random rupie % hits in there
better thenme lmao
there are a lot of things.. stamps, alchemy, tools an so on
smh minecraft gem 
whats the best w1 area for 2m splice claims
lvl 31 minecraft lol
ey you can get a full enchant on 1 item with that nice
just dont forget to have 17 bookshelves nearby
?
It's taking me 5 days to get past leek spirit rn should I do it?
beans?
the map where you have highest k/h
just go to each map and check your afk info UI
in general for w1 is frogs
never heard of her
ok ty
thing carries heavy , lazy with everything else
you think you'll try to get all gems? or no point
no shit
I could probably get a few more, not really worth it tho
did unlock this, not sure where it falls in the buff or how impactful it is
i need monument afk so bad.. i have 10k on bravery, 16k on justice and 2.5k on wisdom
what's your total monu afk rate

oh we're close
fak now im curious
what the
you prob have way more winner bonus than me though so I must have something else better
wait shadow why is ur monu afk so low
0 jar would do it
arcade
hm u probs just need to start afking honestly, best with wisdom
missing 170 from it
then bravery, then justice
I need gball event...
fastest way of getting monu afk
let me check smth rq
alright.. WW is dog cheeks
tf
lmao
why tf does it only buff measurer
that is just horrendous

XDD
Is villager xp the best upgrade thing for bravery
early on yes
honestly i cant say i like the concept of master class
K good
I like having new content 
tediously grindy 
yeah no complaints on new content but its kinda frustrating here and there
Will say, between the 3 I think WW is best for account wide buffs, while the other 2s talents are good
ehhhh
i mean yeah but after some point its pretty useless
the only crazy thing about ww are exalted stamps
Atom Collider levels, Critter %, The Sneaking buff, Exalted stamps, Printer %, Atom cost reduction, AFK % 
Aluminums there as well.. but uh..
and atom collider levels right
atom cost reduction is literally useless imo
the others yeah are good
from what i saw in endgame chat that thing doesnt do shit with +1 level
i saw francis saying its not that great or smth
everything is meaningless after you get to endgame
best unlock 
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ya its not really all that important as the requirements for later helium are near impossible to get
(if you only have helium to level)
I didn't max snail yet but other than that yea I'm at like +8 helium or something
imo AC has the best account buffs but.. some dont really work as intended
I think ACs got best talents, cant tell with account buffs yet
that prisma %, jewels, equinox fill rate and max arcane crystal bonus do look nice
should i use looters for pet spice production? or are they just a waste of speed?
x2 statues, x2 gfood, extra gold balls, 25 opals, villager exp, 3 jewels, equinox bar fill rate, seraph cosmo multi, higher prisma bubble buff, higher emperor bonuses, cheaper summoning upgrades per endless mode victory, talents for all characters and dr/afk/exp per map + prisma bubbles
check pins for spice production setups
tho equinox fill rate should be multi but its additive somehow
For conjurer should I spent points on the extra divinity connection
if you dont have doot yes
Should I do that before the other upgrades then
yeah
K bet thx
the gfood is nice 
statues isnt bad, just would be better if I was still losing my mind farming w6 for the first time
Is the only way to effectively get statues active
indeedo
thats.. pain
P2w game ๐
what should I spend my points on 
max damage
I'm not rich bro ๐
got 14 more
in case you didnt know
fish ig? 
ehh max the combustion
fish is really bad
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
it is 5:48am im going to lose my mind
*theoretically
Bro sleep??
not a ton of damage, but not terrible
so if i have atome off it still cap my storage to 1050M ?
yes
i saw people with billions on storage, how we do this ?
locally
drop on the ground, and place manually in chest
oh ok, thank you
but if you change the map or print them they will get transformed into atoms
ok i see ty
hmmm should I go back and grind medallions now that this is a pretty decent number
doesnt get much better 

definitely doesnt hurt
yea I think I will, just boosted it to 8%
Souped lab ring vs rex ring whats better?
Yea i for my bubo whos on lab
then yeah. follow this and equip everything you have and you should be fine
Thx where is this chart from? Looks useful
uh should i farm statues w this yet or nah
depends on your crystal chance too
crystal chance

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Thx
ty
What foods are you using
its 1 in 76
should i be using smt bc im not๐ญ
AoD called u a nerd
Nice increase
dang Uge
so thats how aod is

Im building my BB to push through. But i saw my bowman doing 10m damage and my BB doind max 500k. My bowman doesnt have much, in fact, much worse thah my bb
Anyone know why?
the fact you miscounted the 500k and it's actually 5m
and the extra 2x is either from prem gear or alch focusing on archer rather then warrior or just bad zow counts
Is pushing with divine knight ok for w4+?
Is there a tool that tracks deathnote progress without needing to goto w3 everytime?
I am aware of checking my current kill under the card.
Card is easiest i think
toolbox
is ES or AC better for troll key farm?
You're right
This is my Bowman
and my bb
what's the thing that gives the most DR in game
packs
i am so blind LOL thanks
p2w items
besides the credit card relic
probably obols
lots of DR bonus lategame
I would think owl gives more dr than obols
just got to w4, help. Anything I should go back to and make sure I have ready?
no
last time i checked that guy i had just arrived at W2
Iโm at 5 characters. Should I make character 7 a hunter because I got ww through the dragoon method
idk what the dragoon method is
1 hunter is enough
Will siegebreaker masterclass get a gun
this is the true question
no you get a shark with a laser on its head
he's a pirate using a bow
give him a flintlock please
but i know that lava is finna make
he summon a kraken
instead of giving him a gun
this...doesnt look bad actually
i just gotta overcome the saltlock
i mean look at the magmacore armor
troll armor takes like 3 quintillion nullo salts but magma core is pretty free
troll armor separates the boys from the men
oh yea i can technically craft troll armor now
aside from just not having the recipe unlocked lmao
i just have to use a few 1 hour candies
to get to the troll map in every slot
same i was just lazy until now bc i didnt have enough salts
o what is the contribution of yours, my feathers are not good but its .4 vs 1.4
my worshipping is also pretty scuffed
oh i should see if i have enough salts to make another set or two
I canโt level up bm and ww skills past 53 and hunter past 13 but I have ww at level 66
i think my boulder roller is level 30 but i still didnt go to gublinfest to increase my highest wave
your obols only give .4?
i believe that is because you have more talent points than you should have technically so you will have to gain a decent amount of levels before you make up the deficit and start gaining points again
my family obols alone give more than that p sure
that isnt an answer
i should spend some time in orion
i only get +44% from owl
im just surprised you dont have more from obols
look on your it, it shows it quite clearly. That is what I meant
my family isnt looking all that great either
You must have gotten some miniboss obols too nice
nop, theyre all pop/dice
Yours are a bigger difference but your feathers are bad too
what does kattklekruk obol give?
I fill up the spark obol gaps with troll obols
Yeah domeo , i should get his card
I forgot to switch out my slush obols, thnx for reminder
yaya
what do i go for here? i bought 1 kattlekruk one to see what the craft was
and that 44% definitely doesnt include the x6 from gambit
atom cost reduction is nice
i dont have collider yet!
wts your build rate?
like 384k


