#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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and my point is wrong because?...Those things are yet to be seen
they were in shop but they rare yes
Mostly dumbster garbage like the drop rate only if you have no dr to begin with chip and other nonsense
They are for the early w4 playets
there is the afk one which is nice
back in my day I actually used the dr chip 
Yeah lol at least the star sign doubler is this week! It’s been a pretty shit rotation since i started and the card doublers aren’t due til nov and feb lmao
did you miss the last star sign doubler?
Exactly! All these gems and chips just fucking eons away, while the rotation spews the same doodoo over and over.
I was about two days away from being able to get it, i was pretty fresh into w4 and didn’t get the spice battle done in time
It was tragic
oh okay
Sad
Its fine, I’ve made great progress without it and am happy to get it now
Can you show the bonud of pyrite navette
classic reading is hard
oh i read it as bound but misspelt
Oh thanks
Typo sorry
A meh jewel tbh
Bruh disconmect that lab liquid node in your lab
reminds me of this bubble thats useless
Unless you dont have liquidvestment i guess
Why
its only good when u candyclick
Coz you dont need 5x liquid cap if your excess gets invested, you just lose out on liquid prod
He knows what hes doing
i assume the brst place to sample in each world is the weakest mob?
Weak and have high density
i got 11/11 on it and do cc relatively decent amount, ive just finished doing 6 hours of it
then only use it when u candyclick
also only 3 days i think til locks broken for my slower guys
is the deal odd damage quest glitched? it isnt counting up
I will hit 3mo playtime on Thursday and my account snapshot is like
- C15 unlocks Tuesday. 10k/4k/2k on monuments with +500%
- 400 talents tonight on my ac
- I’m at emperor 35 i think
- 190 crops found
- Endless summoning 220 or so
- Haven’t made any godshard gear yet but I’m like trapping level 100 on vman and one of my dks and am going to redo good traps this weekend with the star sign doubler
- Db and ww both in w5
- Meals are in the 100-110 range
- Need like 70 more gs to get the equinox ballot box bonus but I’m planning to do that with some easy w7 items instead of doing it annoyingly now
Not sure what else makes the list to get a sense of where I’m at
okay bet 
should work
did you go into a td?
probably
thats bigggg progress
Im also in the same range of acct age, and im nowhere near that, lul, youve been putting in work.
Use the td
I had a HUGE handout from a friend petwise and i bought like 4 packs, but yeah i think ive been pretty obsessive and efficient mostly
P2w and tryhard 🙏
The dream
(Db, summer, deer, ac packs. And i will instantly buy island explo and mallay if offered)
Is there a way to check which packs you bought or not?
Thats alot
34400 over 7 packs almost comes out to 5k gems per pack
can i change my main 3d printer character?
bruh how do i beat this frog lmao clearly a joke
stab it

Is there something extra to breed into the slime? I have tried about 20 times now and ive even upgraded genetics so its a 15% chance. I keep failing upgrading trying to get the next one
Unlucky
Ur at 15% chance for new pet?
oh you havent unlocked breedability yet
At 15% just keep hatching
Frog?
the bill brr quest
Why is my build rate 8x lower than it usually is?
yea just pray your next eggs hit the 15%
im super early in a4
What even is that quest
unlocked it yesterday been pushing guys through for new class
Did you run out of red salt or change your dk skills that scale it off pow10 red salt?
Pray my egg hits the 1 in 1538220 from purple mushroom
hm interesting
go get the w4 splicer 
Nope, red salts are at an all time high
11m on thermister still none
check lab connections?
While 2m and I got the w4 one
Lab is fine
your dks are on the board right
yup
didnt swap them out to do cogs and forgot
Still both on the board
ok i did another ac crystal and now we reached 1B
dont think theres anything else that can brick your build rate tho
time to 1T gmushes
what meals are important to prioritize when it comes to ribbons?
yumi
yumi, skill efficiency, library checkout, attack speed, liquid cap
what are these choices 
huh weird
lab exp isnt that bad tbh
additive tho
done 
but its not like we have any other options 
damn i could go for 1M gcakes XD
Shadow is famous
10m ghosts?
thats easy af
Easy if u got dr
i got some could be better tho
Do u have cape and tag
yeah
What have they done to you crab lol
- AC buff
Go to another tab then go back
would be 200 without ac buff
Isnt this say 1.000x for the purple crystal
click more sanctums 
more dr is more golden cakes xd
nah
Also the pickle jar vial took up all my daily attempts so ya
i have 100k and the dr i get from them is really low atp
Get vials to lv 4
All or is there specific ones you want me to get to lvl 4?
All if can
Except bobjoepickle u cant get it to lv 4
this is all i miss i guess
so most of your stats in 20% range, but gfood which is ??? mostly cake 1.6 60%
I think its because of the golden food bonus
Push bubble
its asking to prisma it, which is not worth
yeah i wont prisma it
Oh prisma
my bubble isnt that low
Okay I'm slowly increasing my accuracy
fine
can giant troll just bug out sometimes he's not done anything for like 2 minutes
ye
Its worse if u do nightmare
i already regret doing it
its soooo slow
wait for w7 to candy it
yeah best thing to do
is there a way to level lab without having all your characters afk in there or do I just have to go do that
need to be in it to level
bubo as a way to level other characters but doesnt do much when just starting lab
gg
I saw him get past ram and started breakdancing
slug is btw
and all the other pets on the other banner is easy to get via trades
i dont have jocund or samurai or golem
im f2p
and those 3 are worse then slug
people give em away often
What's the best way to get statues
active dk with high crystal chance and Dr. don't do it for now
Why does bro have so much tape
that's a low amount
stamp
@woeful wyvern is this u
ok i candied some cards now the majority are maxed
35m max sheet damage on dk to kill kruk
es does it in 30, bb in 60, sb in ab 50
What's sheet damage
the stat screen damage
😭😭😭 plz
Im so happy u found ur soulmate
0 star bamboo logs
HUH 😭😭😭
mb i didnt afk it i printed
Candy it

huh? i candied them
I thought u could only get 4 star from afk
Ohh
I tried doing the 180 kill orb thing with my DK but I only got 160
there an Rift upgrade, makes 5-star max
Idk if it's cause my movement speed is too low
🙏
Lowk the chat cool down is annoying af
More movement speed, no auto, longer orb,
Adapt to it
😔
ive been grinding cryosnakes for w3 statues and im getting like fuck all of 3 of them
Candy that shit!!
like all im getting is skill xp
ive already done onyx for it and cashed in another 40k and still its got double the seesaw
Storage space is my worst enemy
More bags and carry cap
Could I replace a defender with a trasher in dharma messa? My current team is rattler, looter, mono, defender, refiller, refiller
dont use mono
i mean not in that order
**rattler mono looter refill shield refill **
this is the correct team
i used this one and i did it pretty fast too
Do I need to do anything or does auto work
I'll try auto off rip and if it doesn't work then ill time my first one
If I could rate zero stars I would https://i.imgur.com/sb9vzO6.png
At least I never have to watch this stupid animation ever again
+150m massive improvement in under a week
are the stingers counted as red boxing gloves for begone troll 10? i dont have the crimson string to make the starter ones
I think they are yea, but you can reclaim the string from the completed quests menu
How am I supposed to get points into diamond chef?
Mines at 67 and it costs 7.7 mil now
nblb
What is that?
lvl up other low lvl bubbles to force it
u can check IT for what will get hit by nblb
will still be pretty random tho since tis a bubble above #15
I should take my little guys off mantra
whos gonna tell him
more important than jocund and samurai? cuz i dont have either of them
maybe slug gives bigger value that samurai, yeah...
jocund is whatever
not having samurai doesnt prevent u from progressing hole completely
but not having slug means you are always 25 talent levels down forever
???Dawg i can just get it later
nope
🥀 im not dying next month man
and good luck getting 25 levels
Is it going unob and im not aware?
ah no no
So i can get it later
But i'll focus on the banner that i dont have 3 companions
rather than the banner that i dont have 1
3 random unimportant ones vs 1 important one that u can build up the banner chance
samurai not important man
nop
i dont have it and im right here :)
2% slug 🥀
u just got the 0.57% one ?
Y lol
at least try to get it from trade or smth
I dont hate any tradeable companions
yeah but ppl give free pets sometimes
Only thing i ever bought was auto loot
Oh wait i have the divinities that i dont got unlocked avtive
I forgot that doot does that
for how clearing worship tower defense works, if i overflow and the next 10 wave starts, can i kill things from the previous 10 wave and it still count toward completing it? or does everything within a 10 set wave have to be killed within the allotted time for the game to count as clearing it?
Yeah it’s crazy lol
The pearls will help with a lot of negligence lol
I haven’t used them for anything lol
it will help my masteries a lot
I think my total level for chopping is like 140
Should i do W6 colo?
i'll just do a few w5 ones then
Oh yeah that would be big. Once i had the multitool stamp i was just going to hole or equinox and slapping the resource node a couple times and the level would go from 1->30 or whatever too so its not that big of a deal if you just keep neglecting them tbh
I wish i had more wishes
I cant even reset my summoner
Only real sources there are measurements, justice, studies i think so if it’s important to you then you can focus those i guess? Justice is a pretty solid time investment if you’re at c10
I got just 1 lil guy investing in courage
I think im almost at 300 hours
look at him go
He’s doing his best and i salute him
he hasnt eaten in like 13 days and is fine in there
But yeah bravery you never really get a run that pops off and gets crazy rewards. Justice there’s a chance you get the type of run the 24k-ers have when you’re at 2k, it’s just less likely. So it’s really good when that happens lol. And one of the prizes is daily wishes is why i mentioned it
I got to justice about a month ago i think? And tried to get 2048hrs as fast as i could.
Now i want samurai 😏
Thinks are comming together
It’s Good. I got mine after i was at c13 though fwiw and the c9 Gloomies cavern was huuuuuge for my exp until then. From the villager statues
Oh i think i unlock wisdom in just a few moments
BIGGGG
2hrs till wisdom. My bois gonna have to go back to jail after that.
Oh man that Bravery study really feels nice to have
Yeah!!!
ok 2 more mobds to super chow and thats done
can this setup hit wave 200? or should I aim for higher power pets
and also which ones should be higher power?
I tried this exact setup weeks ago
but I had less powerful borger and shield
and max I reached was 115 after 1 or 2 tries
so now I don't know if this is possible with this setup
Are my salts cooked
but everything else maxed for "mid world 6 progression" other than wave 200
Currently you run a slight deficit on them but it’ll be solid in like two red upgrades and one orange i think
it's good
you should probably aim for 2 more rank of red and 1 more of orange.
but not a huge deal
2 more reds and 1 more orange rankup aight ty
at this point you mostly need green and void
so it doesn't matter.
here is my salts
I stopped purple and void a while ago to get more greens
but now black and purple are back on
cards, prayers, gfood, bullets?
yippee my ES did it (literally dont know if any other character can lmao)
Try AC and stack poison for the needle thingy
That helped me
What exactly is the downside of speedruns(other than DN stuff) cause like, you can basically max all of VW’s talents in a few days
AC might be able to if you drop aura then the potions. Though with aura nerf, maybe not
Just get 4 voidwalkers
what
I just recently got ribbons from gem shop would it be a good idea to put one on cabbage or just wait
Wait
Gotta savw for yumi
Put your tier 3 ribbon onto turkey like a real gamer
so i spread poison everywhere first and then focus down the mega?
oh i didnt even need to setup
i just auto'd and it died
I'm working on croissant quest
ok so ES and AC done, what other 2 classes should i use?
WW and SB I think
any strat for those 2?
Why would there be a downside?
And you’ll need more points once you can library book them up to 300ish. I just redid mine yesterday and got 89 portals and i Think that’ll be enough for a long while lol
talent book is the enemy of all talent points
Try DB
ok
DB AC ES and maybe dk if u have leveled him enough
You definitely wanna save your highest tier ribbon for yumi peachring which is locked behind spirit leeks in w6 but cauliflower is a good 2nd. The huge attack speed bump really do go brrrrrt for active gameplay
Someone got a good Pet Territory comp?
(im stuck on the Worm)
I think my dk was faster than anyone else. Even es who just deletes things with lightning bolt
How many slots you have unlocked?
lv 459
all 6
idk if DB has enough dmg tho
@red relic thats my comp right now
that cleared for me
also equip all the dmg items u have
that should work but its gonna take ages
this is all i ahve
“Tier 3”
(cookie from w2, bullet, fmj bullet, cold (?) bullet
but yea DB only gets around 50%
all your golden kebabs, dmg pot/speed pot (speed if u leveled enough quick slap)
so about the same as WW
can you just let it run on auto or do you need to time something?
Is that with no pain, no gain active??
u can always get more dmg from where u are at no matter what ibr
time the first shield and from there its RNG
ok thx
oh yea
i lv 0'd it bc i kept getting murdered in w6
its still only like 33% before the heal ticks tho
actually getting close to gstacking w1 statues 
How is talent 8 in warrior tree looking? The weapon power one?
Cuz weapon power big boost
i havent booked anything on DB aside from page 1's 5 and 10 and the 2 strength increasing ones in tabs 3 and 4
anything else i book or
Even just tossing single books at the weapon power talent and/or talent 6 in warrior tree can be a big bump
everything at lv 148 is just /100
so basically everything xD
early on its good but str damage is better
mhm
scales hp too so less food eaten
Yeah short term is the goal here
e
Toss single books if you can at Warrior talent 4/6, barb talent 4/6, take points out of BB talent 7 and put into 8 for more str, can move points in db to the str talent as well but don't forget to move them back after
alr i did those
I think stat from equipment first
then weapon damage second
then damage from stats third
then meatshack thing that gives damage for max health
then chow
you mean zow?
yeah idk the easier oen
also meat shank isnt bookable, is there a talent that boosts it
DK has the meat shank boost
so ig its stuck at 100 for DB
DB has the crit one
oh true forgot about that
why is your meatshank so low level?
ngl dindt change too much
oh ew what the hell you have no hp
lol how much health do you have now? and how much damage?
my base is this much
that's still really low kinda horrible
i pasted the dmg in the chat up a bit
hey, dont compare me to late w6, im like early w4 or smth in IE autoreview lmao
ye but now meatshank is giving you way more damage
my meatshank is level 138 it's even lower than yours
doesnt rly make up for the 81% dmg boost from no pain no gain
honestly this is prob the reason why meat shank increase is given to DK
still only got to around there
then work on what ie autoreview tells you for now
RIP
actually i have one more thing, i forgor cards
idk if thatll make up for the huge rest of hp tho
equip dr defecaus + citringe + bloodbone + snowman + boss n nightmares
weapon power cards don't do much
time to figure out SB now
does the gambit regularly drop xp time skips? i just got to gambit today and got 12 of them
@thorny zinc
id say invest 1 into every talent
because 1 + 48 is 49
investing 1 for 49 in return
nice my 'do something laggy while at work to more efficiently claim equinox bar' strat worked and i'm 1h43m away from 400 talents 🙂
youll prob be fine until the mega monster
is there a formula to where if the dmg isnt above a certain point the KPH fall off?
if there is, then i might be cooked for these but if there isnt then its smooth sailing no?
Did you lose multikill?
didnt have it to begin with
the enemy HP is far above my dmg at this point
Eh just get more damage then.. check if you got all your 2x kills things
i have doot so those should be fine
idk if im misremembering any 2x
There's more than doot 
: )
yea but that covers div and lab right?
I mean.. just get more damage I suppose
2x in lab is basically free cause doot permalinks arctis
yeah, but that's not the only sources
Doot also permalinks nobisect, and then jocund and robes are basically off limits for f2p
you never know.. there's a giveaway
WHERE
What's the rarest vial to get?
I got the Bobjoepickle one
the grey one from the arcade drop?
balljoepickle
yeah that one
No I'm talking about jar pickle oops
Time to go gambling over the weekend on arcade balls
guys, why i have doot, but 3d printer still just 3x not 6x? is that a bug?
How much statue levels i can get with a 1k?
Depends
Hi! 2 questions about Worship if someone is willing to oblige..
- In the Citringe map, are you still able to put a tower on that first portal? I've seen several guides where I saw pictures of it being there, but I'm unable to place myself so far..
- I haven't got access to Voidinator just yet (working on unlocking black salt right now). Would you reckon getting to wave 50 is possible with the following towers
- Level 5 poison
- Level 5 kraken
- Level 15 party start
- Level 18 stormcaller
- Level 28 frozone
Currently trying to push wave 50 for Equinox
Also, is there a guide here on the discord? I'm bad at searching maybe but I dont think ive seen it
no boulder roller?

i did lv50 on citringe with around level 25 towers but it was with boulder rollers instead of poison bc boulder roller is so much stronger at low levels to push 50. not sure what you'd need for poison for 50 there all the guides are for like 120 for that that i saw 😦
Boulder is 31 haha, my bad.. All the guides I see don't include a boulder
boulder is pretty cracked for early worship
Yeah true, I tried it once with poison, it sucked dick lol
I just need my BM to hit 250 charge again 😦
for the 50s basically every map on a big straightaway i was putting
void -> freeze -> four boulders -> 2-3 krakens
and then nearby party starters and one storm
hmm whats more important
pushing rift for sneak mastery and finally progress further
or
push w6 to unlock spices (im on the leek to skydoggies portal thing)
what is that
the other variable is the Cannoli meal and the vials and stuff for more points at start so you might need a bit more than i had. idk
Yeah working on it. Already got a lot of starting points though I feel like.. I reached the boss at w49 once, but was severely lacking DPS.
when i went to work this morning i was 1hr away from equinox full. i left it ccing on a pretty full inventory and when i got home i claimed the equinox bar and hit cloudsave and the correction was that my ac i had literally just logged out of had a 4.5hr afk claim to make and i was 4.5hr further toward this next equi bar than i would've been if i did something less laggy all day
Oof
just a funny choice i made. minmax this equinox bar today at the cost of like pushing my daily reset back a bit and doing laggy shit all day
oh is that what causes that?
yeah the game was running at like 0.5s/s for most of the day i guess
and it doesn't correct til you log off
Yo sick 😮 😛
bwa
when i was at that spot i did rift first, but i'm not sure that's still the best choice now that tuttle's are free and pushing past skydoggies gets you the yellow and cyan summoning bosses. if those are killable push emperor imo. if summoning bosses are out of reach push rift. would be my suggestion that i'm basing on nothing
wdym tuttles are free?
with the patch a couple weeks back i think everyone can just trap every critter from the drone now instead of needing to do a jade emporium purchase to unlock tuttles. like zuiq got them in w3
why is the recommendation for farming the 20k power statues an active DK at beans?
yea but that doesnt affect my decision tho right?
Why would it not?
pushing to tuttle map is easy
bc its quickest...
right, what I meant was "what about DK at beans makes that quickest"
2 total spawning platforms
Because DK has an orb
they used to literally not be there til you spent an e25 jade coins or whatever and i didn't get the coins for it til i got sneak mastery iirc
54Q
His skills
Lantern upgrades area is kind of when you enter m1
Yeah, why not make it even more free by getting it in w3 
the DK's orb is actually like a multiplier for loot drops. i thought it was an additive % but its like a multiplicative one apparently. so when you have the orb at like 450 that means every crystal mob is dropping at least 5x the statues and 50% are dropping 6. and that blows every other class out of the water for loot amplification
450 is 5x with a chance of 6
It is a masterclass tho
fixed sry
And 450 is easy to hit I suppose
so do i push rift 56 or w6 maps? theres no guarantee i can actually get to rift 56 without my kph being absolute dogshit tho
Does vman have like any method at all to get better def and hp other than talents cause the dude’s overdrive talent is replaced with star talent points
Hi! Cant understand with new/old meta.
On my 8th char I want second Divine Knight or second Death Bringer(BB)? And I dont want 4 warriors like someone advises.
U get more sneaky tho
it feels like my sneaking is like softlocked rn
I'm saying critters are all unlocked while you're in w3.. including tuttle
But u should get to the chochies map first no?
How do you get soft locked before m4
you should have 3 warrior 3 mage 3 archer and 1 beginner atm
i got a 2nd DK just to make construction stuff easier but my archer and mage are both base rn
not having mastery unlocked at all
all the setups in here don't use left portal placement
#1277368276095336558 message
that wasnt what was asked. the reason is bc beans is the best map for dk (2 straight spawning platforms) and bc crystal mobs' rare drops (statues in this context) get affected v well by the orb
Ew, not doing enough rift smh
yea thats literally my question
push rift or push w6 for spices
Eh whatever you like
Does vman have like any method at all to get better def and hp other than pg 1 talents and star talents cause the dude’s overdrive talent is replaced with star talent points
If you read the orb
It says why
massively helpful answer
Game has always been whatever you like
the explanation isnt clear as to what it actually does to the drop rate of rare items
and thats why these help channels exist, no?
And for the 2 platforms, 1 gets taken by a knight and the other by the player
Yeah.. gfood, alchemy
this is just yapping chat sir
Dr is dr and more is always good
u can have 3 knights lol
I meant as in the talent pages💔
It's a w6 qusestion, no?
not how orb works
rift is w4
spices are also w4
yumi ring is also w4
Uh star talents
You aren't getting sneak mastery in w4
Be honest no one actually asks w1 questions in w1 questions ive seen people ask about dk gem farming in there
maybe zuiq can do it
W1 chat is a general chat 2.0
has zuiq said what the criteria are gonna be before moving on to w5 lol
is he in w6?
zuiq is w3 rn with progression better than 80% people here
who's zuiq
like discord name wise
ye so how would he even have sneaking unlocked...
can u read
in w4 u get rift, which has sneaking mastery upgrade
rift is in w4
so you unlock sneak mastery before even getting sneaking
Yes and no
......
U unlock it but cant use it
yea im not playing this game
wdym lmao
Aye
thing is if u are max w4, u wont reach rift upgrade
didnt mean idleon, meant this game in this chat
unless u are zuiq thats why i mentioned him
I had to be mid w6 to get to rift 56 tbf
sneaking mastery vs sneaking in general
very different things
Aye part 2
do you remember how much dmg you had when you got it
struggling to get rift 56 is worse progression than tutorial imo 
In the small Ts
Like 1 or 2 trilions
dam, im around 1/10th of that so uh
i neglected my rift and when i did it i went till 61 or whatever the current max is
I had to get all my 10 chars in there farming for a week to get to rift 56
Rift 61 for now is useless
yes but its max u can get
But it is useless for u
it doesnt allow u to progress further anyway
oh so it didnt show T in the stat page?
Can u push it? Yes
doesnt it only begin to show at 10T
u cant push it past
Is it worth it for someone that hasnt got a tT damage? No
im hitting T dmg but not in the stat screen
Ah yeah, it shows it only if u get it past 10 yeah mb
Guys should i finally put the turkey saga to rest and make something else so i can actually get chips(note outdated this is now lv 28)
im hitint T dmg in inventory screen 
Bruh wtf
lmao
what on earth am I looking at
turkey only account
Just why
gimmick goes hard tho
that ribbon rofl
mildly high ribbon
I wanna get chocolatey chip but ig i’ll just have to usr gem shop and whale it..
For the love of god
still not gonna save lira inflation, turkeys will continue to suffer
APE DIE
Go breeding bro fr
Yo what
is this a threat
Breed hard
Huh
Fr
no my inner ape just dies seeing that ribbon wasted
relatable
i only wasted rank 16 ribbon on turkey
actual dogwater
"Only"
lava would make bank from just selling a pack that removes all ribbons on meals for 20 usd
literally nothing else
Should i go turkey only and just grt choc from gem shop?
Uh how long will it take to get atom collider
U choose
A lot
a bit
44,8928571429 hours
1year 10years by then ill have a wife
Lol
whats your carpenter doing btw
Calc goes crazy
im joining u in turkey arc
mine is still crap but its bc i dont want to brick my salts intensely yet
im getting 5.4m build rate so its finee
thats automation arm not atom collider......
idk abt that one
I utterly destroyed my salt progression
It will take me months to take them to a normal state
oh wow we rly aint beatin the allegations
if you want me to simplify the numbers its just (600-97.2)/11.2
oh yea, idk what OP is saying but yea
its not my fault that OP cant read
lmao
Me too i was in a rush and forgot a braincell here in chat.
ur sharing it and it seems and it got lost somewhere
im lost
I had a stroke reading allat
I'm having a stroke rn
Stroke party

Stroke fest
stroke
99billion years later
you using xp cogs?
Yes
twinsies
How much construction xp% does an ultimate cog give?
ignore atom collider for now, you cant even build it without nullo salt
and cant even upgrade anything in it without some atom production
focus on ur shrines and towers
Ultimate cogs can go up to 300% for me 😂
The cogs get better with quality and also with highest construction level i think
Goddamn it tried to smurf for choc chip cause well, im running turkey only and i got solid chips yeah but none of them i give a shit about💔
DING
thats nothing. you sicken me
Try get it to 420
Are the premium cogs in the gem shop worth buying?
yes zen cogs are worth it, a little expensive tho
Im at 3k % on shiny fish i wonder how much would i Get?
At least 1 fish
660 days of fuel 

imagine all the salts in the world and no bars 
im also holding off on claiming my guys atm
for at least 1 more night anyway
were getting closer slowly
Uge
and the like 150% shrines will be nice to get the last 4 levels i need for the equinox
i claimed in 4 guys by accident before i remembered what i was grinding 
on other notes were getting close to this
and then its bell after right?
huge
thats wild
im definitely not about to do a w1 colo to get the bars cause i cant be bothered to switch out my gs
lmfao
atm i just have 1 of each bar
single godshard fueld with slime sludge
and rest ofslots filled with iron
depending how big your forge cap is you may just be able to swap 1 slot to iron and candy it with one of your archers
i dont wanna claim any archer times atm cause of my ham grind
why not tempust W1 colo
you can grind for both medaliions and iron bars! :D
trueeee but also cant log into it yet cause of ham
Did u get ww yet
ah shit right true

all i finna say is
(who would have thought id suffer with Drams for the first time ever)
ooo skydoggies 
(i have had smooth sailing up to unlocking bro)
out of curiosity since I've never known Zuiqiang, what specifically are you doing in a world before progressing to the next?
Bells definitely nice
yussss and ill be done with skydoggies in likeeee 1-2 days i think
"maxing" every world before going to the next
yeah i have level 1 well, level 1 bravery on the way, and then its bell after i think i was told but i cant remember if it was that or harp
uh
just general reasonable things
nothing too insane
just stuff in name of stable foundations!
Bravery maxes are lv7, so some just full send that
but rn
"reasonable things" like 3mil carry cap in world 3
only 3M?
"Nothing too insane" has been playing for 3 years and is w3 

ah so fairly arbitrary goals for things? since "maxing" even W2 stuff would be functionally impossible without going farther (upgrading later bubbles being impossible for example)
sounding like a throarbin video, "I played 1 world for 1 year for 7 years straight"
i have like 10M+ on my Mman
for all reasources
if not close to 10M worht of bag space
Maxing whatevers possible, regardless of time so long as it is truly possible 
ah
my dk has 2mil with gs bags 
youre rocking void bags and 10m
stamp diff
nahhhh complete skill diff, the man has it over me entirely
before WW i was planning to at most level up each of my critter vials to 11 before moving to W4
now im doing some Mman stuff
gonna maxe undeath shrine as ive maxed all building stuff ican exvept for 50 levels in undeath and 95 levels in primordial shrines
get Mman to lv 400
(taking a break from the active Mman leveling crystal grind and working on WW atm)
youre gonna max primordial before going to w4 
wait how im higher than u and i only got i got starstruck
cause im a heavy neglecter
yeah i see now lol
rn i wanna push to Drams and Bblones to get hte medallions to make levels easier for everyone lmao
i exaulted capacity so
i went to world 6 first month and then just doubling back on everything for the last 2 months, slowly working through stuff
and then ill take a break from WW
speaking of WW anyone know how expensive this is to max?
yeahhhh so about that
does IT tell you or anything?
yes
WHERE IS YOURT GAPPLE STAMP GOOD SIR???
wait how do you have WW in W3, or did you unlock other worlds but just aren't doing their stuff
too many buffs lmao
welllll in my defense i wasnt playing when ww came out so i couldnt get extra exalteds, only the ones from the buffs 
ill get them soon
lava sourced secret method
its a glitch to obtain WW items before unlocking it
NO EXCUSES
okay fair enough i dont have that yet myself
i want multitool and refinery stamp but lava said no 
when in doubt just screenshot stuff past w4
i would give you one if i could

i at least have my list set out for once i hit samurais
DB - 100M Kills on everything
ES - Evertree
SB - Oceanman then to Hive
DK - Motherlode
AC - Divinity
WW - Gloomies
Vman -
ES - Bravery
SB - Oceanman then to Justice
DK - GodShard Offline / Grinding stuff Active
hmm
Vman im trying to decide what to do with him cause its either getting ruby cards on resources or something else
cause i still need to onyx like 5 statues, but its 3 of the w3 ones, ocean and then the accuracy one
and well w6 ones but they wont be for a while or until samurais etc
you should have him leveling in skills before everyone passes him 
trueeee, but i also do have him number 1 in most things atm
Godshard set fast approaching
wont be for long if you have ES on Evertree till whenever
should have vman in hole wood spot while ES is in w6 wood spot
they give around the same xp
if i was gonna put the vman in the evertree instead ill put the es in monuments probably
also cryosnakes are a lie surely
cryosnakes are meant to be the best spot or one of for getting all of these right
cause why tf have i already onyx'ed skill xp, dumped 50k and gotten another 20k before i got 10k on any of the others or even combined
Skill EXP is from the crystals, none of the others are I think
so i should do es grinding for them
for W3 I think ES is recommended yea
alright im going to nep eyes and just collecting more skill statues then fuck it
W1/2/4/5/6 all have their unique statues on their crystals where W3 doesn't have most
while i get cheese and ham
i appreciate the new information
well W5 also has Villager/Dragon from the hole but that's a special case
yeahhhh theyre just specific areas more than specific classes
yea they're "hole-specific" rather than world-specific statues effectively
i need to get equinox symbols soon
if memory serves of what people have said ES at Penguin/Quenchie/Crysnake is the best targets for Trapping/Worship/Construction statues respectively
okay bet, so nep eyes til i get 10k cheese then find something else to grind
it's super nice
and once i get samurais switch es to get the others
i cant wait ive been saving the bar for so long
future upgrades are still useful to get, you're still 6 equinox upgrades off symbols
Is there any server guides for good and bad Prayers from Worship, and what to avoid ranking up if any?
i heard its good bad good bad in terms of upgrades so next will be good and then bad
the next is slow roast wiz, which yea is quite nice for TD as it gives a massive damage potential boost
lucky
i cant get EQ symbols until W5 iirc
OH BIGGGGG
its like second or third to last
ive been waiting on that too for my td pushes
the following upgrade I would say can be useful, albeit with limited upgrade counts, it increases lab connection range, which I needed a couple (3) points in to just barely stretch some connections when I didn't have the range extender jewel
also question
do WW medalions on ground despawn after a certain amount of time?
but with the jewel you may not need any
!despawn
All items on the ground despawn after an hour, while coins despawn after 20 minutes.
Note: Windwalker's Medallions and Arcane Cultist's Prisma Bubbles do not despawn unless you leave the map.
oh its been updated nice ty
regardless I have all the connections with only 3 so you won't need any more than that if you put any in,

i have the setups to get past where im at but its like throwing pebbles at a god with my like 2000 dmg 100% crit ticks against like 186mil bosses where i dont have the effort to afk for like 10 hours to push 10 waves 
yeah ive done 2 nights of inadequate stats grinding at Drams and havent gtten the medallion yet lol
yea the HP gets kind of comical
Honestly have no idea how the 3d printer works, I just must be stupid af
my highest map I think is at 160 currently which I think I can push most of mine too
you got all the w1 w2 ones?
you sample something
its sampled at xx% of your afk gains (capped at 90%)
and you get that amount of materials every hour its printing for
you can boost the gains from various sources too
im at like 110-120 ish for a few and like wave 90 on the world 6 one and im sure i can push another 40-50 waves and i neeeeed zerg and the other one but its just such a time investment before slow roast
3D printer has a couple steps
1st, in construction you must upgrade it to unlock the slot for the respective character, this is in order of character creation
After you have unlocked their slot the respective character needs to use the star talent for sampling at any map with a resource
After that resource is sampled you open the 3D printer UI and click on it and it will be set as your active sample, and you'll generate it every hour
no
but im pushing for BB and DR mmob medallions
im almost there stat wise for Dram in temrs of acc
and ive got a fire bow
(both element and stats)
Thank you bro, I had ignored the construction section
get the world 1 ones and itll boost your accuracy and dmg
to make it a lil easier
ik it will
i was thinkin about doing that soon
i dont have much W1 left as is
ah yea, early on you might only have a couple characters unlocked in the printer but it's pretty quick to max it out and unlock all 10 of em
also i must say
lava blessed me
this was my first ever bow of which dropped within 2 hours and was from ym deer
i need to go back to do w2 soon but i still have a like 1/11000 chance at getting them
thats biggggg i got a like 76 one and its gotten me to w4 comfortably
also just wanna flex
damn
no Dram no Bloodborne
i basically didnt even touch them, i literally unlocked the portal to them before i came out of tempest form just to unlock every portal
woodmush poop and rat are pretty much all core W1 i have left
lmao fair
not everyone grind those two mobs liek i do
i went from like stache to bopbox and then realised ive had midas on the whole time so then jumped to clammies etc
theyre not too bad to get since theyre w1 thankfully
alright time for me to log off of my pc and load it up on my phone
to get this grind going for the night and wake up to 10k cheese
I think on Page 1 I'm missing crystal Crabal and skeleton rune only for WW
aight have a good one
I know the ideal 10 characters are as follow
- arcane cultist x1
- death bringer x1
- wind walker x1
- siege breaker x2
- divine knight x2
- elemental sorcerer x2
- journeyman x1
But for the 8th character does it matter which one? Should it be another DK?
you toooo happy hunting medallions i hope it goes well
i cant get crystals due to lack of glitter
good night you lot

ty ty as do i
what TD unlocks glitterbug
3 3 3 1 is the current strat iirc
I just had it by the time I cared to check
DK will help construction a decent bit
dont do 2 sb
idk idr
2 sb has been bad for ab a year now
damn it has?
second SB is basically just fly prints and nothing else right?
yeah, which flies are basically pointless
huge price hike XD
yea
So what's the ideal set up now? And what's best for 8th character?
damn really?
8th is dk
what bout its Masteclass?
zui wanna switch with me?
weve no idea :p

wrong dust type sadly
but if theyre following what the rest is doing, i doubt itd matter much
Zui is w6 now? QAQ
so second db would still be better as he has more overall use cases
ok wanna switch now?
"w6"
i wonder if i can convert my Bowman to a second WW
no
i have insider lava knowlage 
its been 3 years
youve been i na coma
glasd to hear youve finally awoken

i would suggest 2 AC over to ES
bleh 
ty for more information provided too late :(
because the requirement from AC is fking massive, my next upgrade is in 6 months
19 chests after I just saw my friend get like 84 on case200+
138 levels of afk gain das big 
tbh i agree
but will have to see what es does, and outside form es has more utility unless doot
like ?!?! we are not getting any damage tessaract for the next 7-8months
?
You could use the 999 gem full class reset on an sb to ww and a like medium class reset to get wizard to bubo

chat
im really hoping SB MC and ES MC changes meta again
i dont have SB
the 3rd locked upgrade 
fractal takes a long time too
its still a damage buff
also i only have 1 token lol
The one before I forget the names 
Yeah do one blue on one and the white one on another
it is
but we aren't gonna be seeing any upgrade to t2 until woodlands spirit
my only issue with AC is the unlocks, the times whatever, the bonuses just arent really worth it
(these were free)
subclass swap and elite class swap tokens?
using a class reset token on a subclass feels liek a waste ngl
right now i parked my AC in lab until lvl 500 for 100% crit rate
Nahhhh the names of the classes before bubo sb etc 
oo thats smart
oh yeah we are never gonna max out astro btw
Better than not doing it and then having an es and an sb and only being able to switch 1 cause there's no more of the big resets
although you should get 100% crit before lv 500
cost e25 to max
Or wait does the blue one reset es back to the one before so I could double ac?
i mean until i reach 100% crit ratre anyways
I need 19 more levels, just dont know if its really worth it atm 
okay but hear me out
i dont have elite classes unlocked
i can ujst wait for more subclass tokens from next update
True trueeee
also what if duel Iman becomes the strat
and the only way to get a second Iman would be to use tha full class reset token?
blue one is sublcass
red/orange one is elite class
Yeah this is the issue is have with the meta changing, I want it but I can't afford and don't have the resources to keep up with it all 
white one is full class
??? is master class (doesnt exist yet afaik)
I believe white covers masterclass too potentially
imo i believe if you started all the masterclass from the beginning of their release, you really don't need two DB/WW as you probably have hit the end by now. but you know, to each of its own.

its full class reset
it covers everything
2 AC imo is better now.
also +7 LLs
im under 20 away from luckier lad :D
AC is so gated by talent level, you can just throw the second one to afk until afk crystal is a thing
ah
i think this whole matter is a case of
well not all masterclasses are out and current ones are still slow due to lava wanting ppl to not max em all so soon
and meta will change with the final 4 masterclasses
i assume?
I kinda wanted a second ac just to have one sit in lab permanently with skilling buffs on while I did stuff pushing on the other ngl 
well slow is one thing, lava didn't test AC properly.
that does sound kinda nice
id do that with a second WW probs
Exactly my thoughts
of which consists of only these....
Being able to have both presets going at the same time is nice idea
WW still really doesn't benefit from having a second one..
there isn't anything that WW provides well enough to get a second one.
Would you say its a waste to like use the full reset token on getting a second ac this soon?
well you have doot?
well, I would still go for second AC. the bonuses from tessaract is gated harder than DB in W5.
how would Second ac help tho
But I do know that in general purgatory skulls for months til w6 basically
heres to hoping seeing as it is the lastest mastercalss the next one will make it get bufed
doubel the afk gaqins or somethin idk
Leaving it afk until we get afk tokens for it is probably the idea
hey chat
you know what would solve all these issues?
playerslots 11, 12, and dedicated Mman slot
getting a second AC helps with NBLB if you are early, same with double lab bonuses, and having faster summoning essence gain
we could get 2 of each masterclass

