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Ty lol. WW just kinda boring to me so Iโve just been half assing it ๐
does pet breeding from omniphau affect territories?
might not quite need it yet, but they are once every other patch and cost like 900+ generally
are there any "good" things to buy from the shop with irl money, like specific packs that rotate
Autoloot
omniphau is the one that gives progress right?
THen no, it just gives time spent so more eggs, shiny levels, breeding levels
nothing else?
Autoloot is very nice to have, other stuff is up to you
so generally any green gem ones, packs that give drop rate multiplier and wearable special items, autoloot is huge, probably just get like all but doot on your pets
Btw never buy raw gems
there is a whole discussion on this in tips and tricks
Players rate packs, idk if they still do new ones now though
Yo anyone show me the multipliers they run for dawg den?
Who cares everyone knows autoloot is the only S tier pack 
I feel like I could have done better
Someone sent a pic for it like a while ago in this chat
the only pack you "need" is autoloot but you can play without it
I don't remember who or when it was sent tho
Yeah, playing on frames per sometimes ain't that bad I guess
finally made it to these guys
is that the stupid horse gacha game
You stupid (jk don't take it serouisly)

Am i permanently stuck without changing talents as wind walker
I ran outta gifs
No?
I have been informed no
should class #8 be DK or BB
if you dont have 2 dk yet then yes
You want 2 dk 2es 2sb 1 of everything else
I assume that meta might change at some point
I watched a video and pressed the w on the afk info screen 25 times at the top of the frog map and now i cant change talents
to unlock wind walker, yes.. but to change talents it doesnt matter
Theres no way theres a meta in this game ๐ฅ
there is
no to that sb
ever since hole, second sb has been trash
only thing that really matters is 2 DKs and 1 of the others, can do whatever you want with the other slots
Yo what
qwuwtritson
where would i ask WW questions
here or W6?
I'm too tired of explaining the normal begginer every time so I gave up
here is good
10 db
youre telling me
no
nop
explain
i got that before a sandy pot medallion
okay good bc i alread yhave 500+
Their pretty hard for me to get
second sb was used only for forge gains
and i just left bro on Gmush form when i unlocked it til now
how do you have windwalker 
@strange prism AMERICA EXPLAIN
hole made forge irrelevant with a 243x forge cap increase
oh so thats what that was
where look for that?
wait how tf do you have ww
ww bug, use any archer class, go frog map and press w in afk info 25 times
did you do the funny zui
ohh
yikes, might've just bricked your account to unlock something you cant use 
idk how allowed that is
you can toggle it off
Can a mage help me do King Doot
not at all obviously
ik its just going to be a pain
lmao
anyways let's stop talking ab how to do it and just talk ab ww tips
about as allowed as crafting stuff in anvil tabs above my world and unlocking W6 bubbles
pretty useless thing to potentially get banned for 
how does it brick
Should i just ignore this and go for the next island
Since everyone i have is doing mantra
if you aren't doing div rn really, sure
banned for wut
dw ab it
tldr: do not talk ab it here, probably for the best jic
depends on if you can turn it off or not but someone has already said they cant change their talents over it
does anyone know why the w3 crystal mob doesnt drop any of the w3 skilling satues
I need to go back and gather Some of the early islands loot
cause it doesnt
filtered oput?
it's certain reg mobs that do so
leave w3 onyx till last
as dk is bad at w3 statues
gaining access to WW stuff before you have it unlocked
lava intentionally added this in tho
based on?..
no it was a dev testing for him
but isnt there a whole video on that
aka a dev "command" that was left in on accident = unintentional
just cause somethings in the game, doesnt mean its intentionally done or meant to be publicly known 
the fact that it exists ingame and isnt removed? but the method being leaked isnt intentional ofc
no. I cheked the drop table. The only way to get them is from w3 monsters. Not the crystal sheepie tho
.....
that would do it
How he deals with that becoming known will affect how poeple think of him for sure
that's the dummest way I've ever heard someone talk ab dev shortcuts being intentional
strong disagree
not grant access to it
okay so, medallions are the drops that can increase the xp you can get from mobs on all characters outside of tempest form and also have the ability to increase your dmg and accuracy in tempest form, so you want to collect all of them because itll buff stuff a lot
someone doesn't know ab game balance it seems
it would be funny to have that then go with the weird glitch zui had the other day and put you in the tutorial
you can see the drop chances of getting a medallion in the compass unlock that gives you the ability to get medallions
unable to leave or make progress
!guide
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
"ah yes let's let w1 people go to a w6 class"
does sound kinda busted ngl
"this couldn't go wrong at all"
lmao, you clearly missed the part where I said render it unusable
Are any hats worth it to get for gems
get both masterclass hats
but you can't make it unusable but leave it in
as you go through later into the worlds aswell @woeful karma the rates get lower, so in world 1 i have like 1/1000 odds of getting a medallion from them and in world 4 i have a 1/90000 chance to get a medallion from these mobs
it is going. that's a fact. maybe a lil easter egg in its place yes, but it's going
im not going to pretend I know how to code such a thing but I am sure there is many ways
the MC hats are cool, but if you have nothing in the world based shops, should focus those
like the ones in the limited special
thats... in the limited shop
mb bro, i didnt know
there are compass unlocks that give you more drop chance on things like medallions to drop the rates down, when i started grinding earlier i had like 1/2500 chance in world 1 and 1/159000 chance in world 4 so it can drop it by quite a bit the further you get it, which in turn gives you more dmg and accuracy from collecting the medallions
nw 
theres also this unlock in the ww compass that will increase your drop chances of all tempest form things from outsider factors of droprate, so the higher the droprate you have outside of tempest form, you gain increased drop rate chances in tempest form aswell which can be quite nice
okay now after that, i feel like im burning through my moons way too quickly but i cant tell since i remember that clammies was a like stall point for a lot of people i think unless im mistaking that with only db
i started with like 210 today and im down to 105 so ive used 105 but i did go from bopbox'es to now nearly being able to farm flombeige and am 1 portal off of unlocking the eye hammer things
so i think its relatively good progress since its nearly a full map push today in farming terms, my one issue is that i dont have the stones to upgrade any bows or rings that far, so ive just been like collecting new bows and rings of all types in wait to get a good amount of stones to push them
WW wall is DR, which many late gamers didnt have to worry bout
something like this i dont even want to risk just chucking on a 10% stone on the chance of it failing since its a 60 wp base in world 4 which i think is a really decent roll
good ol DR issues
I mean... 1 in 300 bow compared to 1 in 100, and the stone rates
thats why its typically advised to just not look at MCs early on
The issue with DR is many multis are gamba with terrible odds or ๐ณ
Isn't about account progress
i knowww but the bonuses from it early on can pay off nicely, like with sneaking for me atm, im starting to hit 90% detection rates on the floor i unlock for my guys designed to be 0
idk man, grimoire n sanctum is pretty big for DR, the name tag was pretty easy to get as well
the dr multi wings are definitely broken tho so theres that
The name tag had bout 1% chance, without buying chances with gems, youre not likely to get it f2p
Pity was way out of reach
If youre able to be online during stream 
gone from 138k to 976k today so ill take it
talking about daily dig, he gave away around 10-15 attempts if not more
though that is with 1 tempest ring, but also unupgraded
Yeah, and even then people couldn't reach pity without gems
well obviously, but who wasnt using gems during that wheel
Imagine needing to spend gems just to do the idleslayer chets hunt ๐
10 rolls was 1800 gems... anyone that hasnt played while or bought multiple packs doesnt have that to spare 
can you upgrade boron more than 20 levels or is that max?
+10 again later
where do i get those levels from?
i broke 100mil on solar dust

oh for the master class ok that makes sense thank you
WW has levels for boron
I had 5500 gems saved before the event in my storage.. its really not that hard to do 
I have 2k in there now after using all those during the event, just save gems man
How many packs you've bought? 
can I increase this % ?
hole has some arti buffs
what game are you playing, bought gems go to your storage?.. 
shall I spam these for Fury relic on 0.01% or not ?
probably not
What game you playing? If you buy packs that give gems, you dont need to use gems in storage
do you have omni?
yeah
do 2 hour claims on your accounts
until you roll it, thats what i did to get it
I do 24hr+ claims with unending looting 
You didnt answer the question, how many packs, and how many gems was it?
Idleon is very laggy how do o fix
when it hits 2 hours log into 1 character, go check sailing claim in the chests, log into next and repeat
If I can save up 5k in 1.5 months, anyone can. Has nothing to do with packs at all. Especially considering half the things in shop arent even useful
i never used unending until i have like only a couple sovreigns left cause im collecting resources for upping sailing speed
If you throw away all your gems at the first chance you get, ofc you wont have any
what is omni?
omni is the elephant god in divinity
idk, do you expect me to put every pack I've bought in a notepad or something 
puting the skill only when I go to bed x)
I was told to activate it, if i claim 24 hrs+ afk for sailing
How do I lag less
oh yea right and if u got golden hamster it is 100% chance to get sialing progress
yeah and my advice for getting sov fury is doing 2 hour claims without it, thats the best way i found and i think everyone has found for getting low rates, its better for quantity over quality
Its that many you cant remember? Thats why you say gems arent difficult 
Hi should i put all my character in lab? Im in world4
it's kind of a grey area discussion, you probably don't want to activate it at all if your sailing is early on because it halves the chests you get even with 24hr claims
I mean, yeah the advice is good
the counter argument is, I log in once a day, or once in two days XDD
that's why I do unending loot
Has nothing to do with quantity, its time. I've been playing for nearly a year now. Again, do you expect me to write down every time I buy a pack
a 2 hour claim for me gave me 36 chests with a 0.01-0.02% chance, on unending even now with higher rates than i had when i went for fury and a purple chest gives me like 0.24% 
ahhhhh then yeah i can back it, stay on unending lmao
I claimed some 300hrs on some characters today 
I played a lot at the beginning, now not that much
In one year, would expect you to know rough estimate of how much you've spent.
I am a whale, it's hard to keep up with spendings 
especially when it happens on multiple platforms/games etc.
Sorry but im not in a financial situation that requires me to note everything
if you want an estimate probably 10 or so packs
understandable
oof
i need to get pristine comb 
I mean unless it takes so long to come out that I finish all my other active grinds
still working on gfood and stuff
pristines don't exist 
should be around the time w7 comes out, so ~2 months
i knowwww
gemshop always exists 
but i got a new shiny thing today gmalalala
what's that
Sorry not all of us willing to spend $200+ on idle game 
$200?
you know not every packs $20 right
actually been a bigggg get from a lovely man in gen chat
I think total cost actually is over $200 now
regardless, if you think $200s a lot.. never look at end game. They dropped thousands just for the raffle event
pretty much just buy them all ๐
it's ok I quit all my gacha games so I'm actually spending less now
pushing these maps on ACs gonna drive me insane 

insane in the membrane?
What map are you on
ello arctis
damn i didnt expect to be stuck here lol
and i
Allo Zuiq
am on break
trueeee
wondering exactly how the bonus works. Can't put a regular Eggshell into the fenceyard. only the one with breedability which is then...not Eggshell? does it work anyways being breedability just the same pet?
only breedability pets/shiny pets can be put in fenceyard
just ignore the bottom part
ah ok lol i was hoping to use it for some more eggs
the update broke it huh
the most recent update made it so that u can only put shiny and breedability pets in fenceyard so now eggshell doesn't have the secondary effect
ok so im gonna be real. im confused
i just put him in there...from spice 1 to the fence
normal eggshell guy. but he wouldnt go from storage to there
just means spageht code
eh workaround so thats cool ig
should prob report bug
i just put him in tthere tho so idk whats up but?
well hes not supposed to go in there, so it shouldnt be surprising that it take a weird way to do it 
is there something that consumes spontaneity salts (blue salts) apart from the next salt when game is closed? mine go down when game is closed but they go up if game is open is that a bug or am i forgetting something? or is the production calculated differently when afk vs active?
Does anyone know why it tells me everybody (freinds) is offline even tho there currently in the game
he can be with his family now
this will take a while 
Is blood marrow good?
yes very good
how long, is too long, to sit at an abomination?
How many levels does it take to be very effective
do as much as you can
How do you get 7k?????
i have all meals maxed
If you have all meals maxed doesnโt that make cooking useless?
depend. we might get more meals and more levels
Ah ok thank you
at ab 400 is when it starts to be noticable
Thank you ๐
i'm not even close to having all meals maxed
he prims'd dia chief
wait im only 5 portals off and only 1 set of locks off of being able to get to samurais
i thought i was still like 8 off
wait you can 400 bone marrow?
400 plate level
ohhh i was so confused for a second 
i was happy with my 284/301 and was suddenly spun out like theres another 100 im gonna need to get
plate level is total of all meals and meal level is a specific food i believe
ah so plate level = total meal level

nice
Skydoggie lock broken which means i can get my last spice 
what is max meal level
lilke without something like inf summoning (basiccly a minimal heavy scalingsource)
i know W4 its 30
clearly it goes over 100
110
ah okay
well you have 40 from sailing, 20 from db grimoire
but overall theres no summoning for it so just 110
1 damage away from 300k
should the goal now post w4 be to start fleshing out all the gear and skills on our family or is it still 'push push push' to get to w5 and then w6? Feel like I definitely haven't fleshed out w3 at all, I don't even have it unlocked in the anvil
Push push push
Leave all in lab except pusher, and shaman to push for elite class if you havent. Then you can rotate em thru for elites
man I am being walled already at pincers
When does the push end
Depends on how hard you want to push
You can go to w6 but if you get overwhelmed or burned out then you can do most things as long as you get in w5 and get the first 3 div gods
ya w5s definitely a good stopping point
Yeah probably will stop at 5 then
I'm halfway through 4 on my dk with platinum tier gear, the vault really let's you skip so much stuff it feels like
Vault makes things at least 3x faster because post vault the base afk gain was effectively tripled
I have just finished unlocking all bubbles, should i put all the characters i had in cauldrons in sigils?
sure why not
depends on your sigil speed
well that was faster than I was expecting, did ToTm to get a new dust bow in W5 and upon getting a good one managed to just push through all of W5 normal map-wise while being able to oneshot stuff, will needa get ele bows for dealing with aboms but can at least farm wherever in 5 reasonably already
should check if you even need the elem bow for the first few abo with using htat dust bow and wp rings
i cant access the wiki rn but can someone tell me the hour requirement for the last quest on yondergreen
I'll probably try and get a ele ring to attempt such, since I imagine it'd be better than double damage rings with a dust bow, might be able to do it in reasonable time
I mean even if its low do i have any other use for the characters?
21h51min +/- 3min, wiki was slow
I mean if all bubbles are unlocked I assume no just run sigil
by all bubble is that only w6 ones ?
Ye i havent bothered unlocking w7 bubbles yet tbh
w7 is soon, should get that out of the way
have u maxed all the cauldron boosts?
thanks man
No i thought they werent capped lol
What lvl do they cap
170
O damn im like 130
Ill do some sigils in those days since im on vacation and cant active, as soon as im back ill max them doing active on bubo
This still up to date?
is flaggy rate always suck
it gets a little better, but not much. You'll be done your flags before it ever gets decent. and it stays well behind your build rate
sadge
i need 2 more slots to open and i can finally empty out my cog inventory
I def used a handful of flaggy rate cogs to get the last ones. it's an investment, cause it costs xp but you can swap them when you're flags are all done
should i replace all my cogs temporarily for flag
no but you can active cog for "speed to flag" directionals
those boost it quite a bit
you can also primsa the cons bubble I forget the name, but it was in the S tier
that affects flaggy rate too I'm pretty sure
wt
not sure but there was me doing it a while back
yea but like, there might be an unlocked that connects it somewhere
ah fair
How do I stop this from happening to my bags ...
Aha you are a genius.. thank you!
don't see one of those hover tooltips in IT 
What is best pet lineup to beat Shores of Eternity? Is there a guide?
do you gain breedability levels faster if you have more than one pet in your fenceyard? eg. I want to push gmush to lvl 8 and am wondering if I should fill the whole fenceyard with gmushs
lovely
what did you want to look up?
the ways to improve flaggy rate
I got all of these unlocked, but still no idea how to place a shrine. I have no ability to do so. Am i missing something?
finished the ice cream quest?
ohh sorry i don't know those of the top of my head but getting better cogs always helps
No, probably not
he'll give a talent book
does anybody know?
Yes, they gain faster with each one in fence
And if you have Vman enhance for whale that progresses breed too
nicee thank you
yeah i am doing that already, close to having every pet to level 6
Youre welcome, you got ww? Makes it very quick
yeah i got ww
its really quick, i had most of the pets at level 1 a few hours ago
people have way bigger multis but for my purposes this is enough for now
Not bad 
thanks:>
hmm
well i mean i have 6k hours
does breedability affect pet power at all or just new pet unlock & shiny chance
it buffs ww crit chance
because of a talent
and pet unlock chance but by the time you are really pushing breedability levels you probably have every pet anyways
this talent right here
Hm this wall might beat me, I may just take another break from this
a
yea, if only it affected pet power
wts the wall you hit?
pincers, feels even worse than with the other master classes
From what I've heard pincers are decent wall for low talent level
Are you doing it manual or just trying on auto?
the only thing that could make it better talent wise is 400 tenta
have you optimized your attack bar?
because i was stuck at purple mushrooms for a while because my attack bar setup was so bad
theres only 2 attack talents that matter now
this is the bar that i use, but aura is irrelevant on most maps i think
what level is your ac?
704
well that should be more than enough to get past pincermins
maybe it really is 400 tenta
but 400 is not that hard to get nowadays, do you already have the db talent?
704 
You probably just need to active pincerman and manually click the platforms
ohh thats sucks because those aren't things you can do right now
ye I was looking through the ac guuide thing and they have an entire infographic dedicated to pincers
So I am clearly not the only one
combs?
๐ just change floor
I need the gloves
ah
you don't need it for 400 talents though
is there a way to get the 121 w3 wave
max book
that isn't the selling and replacing constantly
what's your additional talent levels
higher tower levels?
yes get your towers higher level
and slow roast
and while we were chatting got another freaking comb
gotcha, ive probably leveled up like 400 times today in construction lmao
all shrines thio
I love my statues
are you getting them so fast that you get too many stacks or what
Would never filter them
is idleon wiki down?
because they cap at 999999
too many items on the ground
yeah i think
jiof is no auto loot
fuck the one time i want to look at it lmao
cuts a little bit of lag, still have to sit here though
y would you farm gigas
ahh yeah i also have that problem but only on a new day when everything is filled with crystals
uh pop obols and str obols so ๐
I lost a bet, so I deleted all my obols ๐
o dear

all my skilling obols 
thats rough
I'm just sticking with dr and mainstat now
I still cant afford to buy them
that hurts just thinking about it
it's my fault for betting ๐
lol i never bothered to get skilling obols
probably that mindset why i am not endgame
I mainly got them for slab anyways
yeah i actually still need to do that too
yes
2-2-24 karat gold labewbew
You canโt upgrade the tempest bows right?
why are you getting so many speed statues and so little power and health statues
yes you can with tempest stones
they drop more commonly lol, what do you want me to do about it
thats how drop rate works
Cant?
they have lower drop rates
2.5k per bow or 5 if ur lucky:>
something is wrong, why my damage decrease when i upgrade my grimoire damage with femur in place of ribcage?
magically spawn in more power statues idk
my DR is quite low
do you have femur hoarding
whats ur dr
135x
with boosts or without?
town DR
oh it makes sense, haha thx โค๏ธ
I don't even do AC lol
lol
fully
thats crazy
uh 135 is fine, could be higher though
respect bro
I just afk through most things ๐
i don't think i could enjoy the game without autoloot
yeah i mean if you aren't very active anyways i guess
the best idle games also have good active content
the most active thing I did was onyx statues I suppose?
Why I will forever love ngu
or maybe beanstalk 
i mean nowadays with the filter pages you could probably afk on maps without the game lagging right?
no it's horrible lol
oh damn
coins and crystal mob cards always constituted the most to lag
ahhhh i completly forgot coins also dont get picked up automatically
wow that sucks
it's so bad even those with autoloot lag ๐
yeah thats true but at least with autoloot you dont crash (most of the time)
the w6 coliseum trauma...
so real
I don't crash, my game just goes to 1 fps after 10 seconds lol
1 frames per sometimes
well makes the vman ability easy right
jiof, what's a good misc stat in w5
o 50% is cap, so I should atleast aim 30%+ nice, ty
I'd definitely prefer higher wp over more dust % but every extra bonus is nice
ah nearly daily reset, can try freezer 4 again
Finding 70+ wp bow with 30%, gl
I found a 70wp 37% dust in w5, but ehh, I saved it for 5/5 stoning but I cleared w5 before I got 2500 stones ๐
my current bow is 80wp 22% dust
80 wp is the max 
yep 
I got 2500 stones just afking on ouro bore us
ok controlled it myself and passed pincers
it took me 6 hours with 3/5 bow to kill ouro lol
super annoying
I did it with like half the bar so it's less laggy
no respawn, no whale, no deer I think
would you recommend getting 5/5 dust bow first or elemental bows
what world?
dust bow right?
now 5
does this ever go up in cost to 1000M+ like the bits one
ah w5 I cleared with 3/5 bows, all aboms 6h and under, you choose
dust is nice indeed
so is this basically just a ton of dmg on archer if i get liquid
i already have 5/5 wind bow because i got bored in w4 and all aboms were weak to wind lol
but next i am doing dust
ah yeah that makes sense
yeaa... 
hm, is this part of the reason why SB is good or wt
something I heard endgamers do is they kill starting from the last abom, so ouro first, maccie last
Ah hell now accuracy is an issue again
because you aren't entering w6 until you kill all aboms anyways
it doesnt increase that much more
so once you can kill ouro in a reasonable amount of time, the start there, work your way down all the way to maccies
what kinda tryhard liquid cap...
its really not that muchb
isnt it like level ~4000 where NBLB stops affecting it
1500
i can maybe get it to 1500 if i use CC
is that with viaduct?
w6 bubbles don't get hit by nblb anyways
even with atom?
I got 10k bravery
don't get hit my nblb.. don't have atoms for anything except 2 bubbles.. w6 bubbles suck
Dove new pfp : O
yes :3
my cap level for third cauldron is only 418
and i dont have dragonic cauldron
sad
yeah I haven't bought it either ๐
this is on my AC but close enough to what id have on DK, is my DR still too suck to do 10k power statues for onyx unlock
bought it for the first two because i thought i would grind grindtime
but then i never did 
I'm just buying it, so once I have all 4 I can ignore
let's go gambling
thats pretty average for the start of a onyx grind
u dont have any at all?
can i use this as an excuse to skip it and buy parallel villagers instead 
do you think if i just overnight it or smth itll be decently done?
how do you not have meals finished yet but are further than me in multiple other areas? did you not prisma diamond chef?
this is just hold mouse button how is it gamba
I'm also gonna do no lane stack.. 217
my atk 1459t enemy hp 51q
217 is pain
regalis and sparkie gamba
yeah I didn't prisma dchef, I only have e94 cooking speed
one day I will not be lazy and do my endless
no sand bag?

crazy how big of a difference diamond chef makes i think i went from early 90s to 118
it's e25 cooking speed at just 2x prisma bonus
okie I gotta concentrate for this fr
diamond chefs interesting, its nice but feels like a waste shortly after 
yeah depends on how many prismas you got and how many other things you upgraded already. but if you're not already near done cooking (like especially if you haven't unlocked every recipe yet) its hard to beat
would def do carp first
carpenter is p nice
I pushed 110 till the last 6-7 meals before prisma chef
me when the
had those at 108 as well, just took too long
build speed gives more build rate and construction xp btw
i did diamond chef before carpenter BUT i knew i was for sure getting enough prismas to do both + all the other top tier ones. and in that context diamond chef for sure better and more immediate impact. but if you can only get one i'm not sure which is better
i need flaggy the most :(
flagging speed 
im stuck on goblin for arcanist form lmao
yeah there were rng giveaway ones on the summer event scratchcard and i got real lucky there :x
but i did get like 3 or 4 prisma worths of bubbles manually
can i just go to sleep and wake up to prismas or wt
I think that dchef is so strong because it's a multipler that's 1*x^y, where y is the number of 11+ meals and X is the diamond chef bonus.
So when you prisma it, you're not doubling it's effect, it's closer to 2^Y which is 2^67 with all meals applied or 1.48e21 (147,573,952,589,676,412,938).
done
it also gives that
short term increase for loss in long term xd
what's your cook spd aod
i mean i prisma'd everything i really wanted to prisma so it was fine to "waste" 10 on diamond chef, also i am 100% sure new meals and/or levels will get added
Yeah and itโs for new recipe speed too lol. The strong argument against it is that on a really long time scale you finish cooking anyway
around E125
bleh.. e87 it'll take me a while
But the counterargument is that there is a real benefit to having all those meal levels for the months (years?) in advance
my cooking is very slow
Meals are contenders for the strongest individual buffs in the game, especially with ribbons. Get them levels.
so missing e31 spd huh
i dont think my building is any better tho
well i mean yeah i'd say so
ya but the buff is ribbons lmao
if you dont have good ribbons, the levels dont really mean anything
meals themselves are just linear scaling
Oh yeah Iโm all for it
Linear scaling yes, but that means no diminishing returns.
Combined with multiplicative bonuses to meal strength from ribbons and summoning.
I want to try king gambit lol
1hp is now such a joke
it feels kinda weird
anyway +2 equi lvls, ever so closer to 450
Uge
ge
prisma dchef on early is so good that i think it saves some atoms cuz u dont need to spend much for fluoride anymore
what's fluoride again
Not saying cookings bad, just simply saying if you dont have a good source of ribbons (Events, Packs, DB), then you just dont gain much out of meal levels
cooking spd atom
what is ppl's here opinion on the best meals to ribbon
obviously yumi peachring
theres some info online but its usually a list but not a priority
Yumi peachring
meh I mean fair enough but atoms should never been much of a problem
Crop Evo, Cannoli, Yumi, Skilling
You're not wrong, but I'd argue that's true of most things in the game. Stuff gets good when it multiplies with other stuff.
idk how bad fluoride price scales
liquid cap too if you like candy clicking
check out speed meal 
i only have 3 T10s (and 1 T9) so if i have them unlocked i want to put it on
Peach ring. All hail the ring.
oh yeah library checkout
Damn and i was feeling good about my 36m
idk if i have peachring unlocked
its the last meal
Second to last.
second last, misinformation spreader ong
peachring you dont even need to unlock leeks i think
I have a ribbon on everything tho
Last meal is crop evo - nyanborgir.
Nah not really, fluoride is prerty cheap
unless this is just lying
Honestly I think that getting level 3 or 4 ribbons on most meals is best before pumping the ribbon on a single meal.
everyone failed, we all forget about that lil dmg source
goated meal
Not that little
is peachring unlockable (reasonably) without spice 24
pretty fat... plump if you will
Don't think so.
i THINK it was peachring where that resource was inaccurate in my exp yeah. where i was just checking by clicking around on other things and was able to get a meal i wasn't 'supposed' to according to that guide
so i wont get it for a while ig
should be impossible, unless spice 24 is the last one
if youre at yumi, you should have the cooking speed to cycle 1%s fast
and bc of diamond chef it took 1 second for 100% obvi
you dont even need to push leeks lock for yumi let alone skydoggies

pretty sure you need leeks
Yumi needs bamboo spice, no need lullaby
it took me like 2 days to get the misterloin steak with the 1 spice recipe
i got yumi before leeks so no
I had everything unlocked before ribbons came out but I feel like waiting to unlock the better meals and saving your ribbons is better than dropping them early.
why you missing so many 
Ribbons are very time gated.
i regret not buying the ribbon shelf from 4th anniv
before I looked into IT, I just spammed spice combos till nothing new showed up
no one told me its that good
bc i have no spices
Same, who doesn't
i should prob unlock the ones near the front if i have reasonable cook spd for them
Insomniac apparently 
? getting new recipes dont consume spices
Not a real chef if you aren't mixing random shit together
im missing the 2nd to last and last
you should be able to get the blanks in between unlocked meals 
I'm pretty sure I can spam kings gambit infinitely so... how long will I be here for 
for as long as you live
idk lmao, it took way too long to get the newest 2
Only burnt marsh and nyanborgir are locked behind lullaby and mesa respectively
at around endless 200 i got king's to 18 minutes so at least that long i guess
yeah i just got overrun by enemies at the end, still had mana iirc
it was their health scaling that did it
You gotta make a spiceless meal for the achievement too.
12 more and i'm 400 : )
which skilling one btw
and i should be able to get like 4 a day the next two days! : )
i don't have the 100 ruby cards so that's +4 of the denominator there
and i think i'm 4 endless away from a +2
Yeah well
so that checks out
shitass stage...
Easy win
literally could not damage cuz the fucker kept spawning too quickly
Lmao
even with sparkies knocking back everything, like 5 new enemies spawn and fuck me over
just a stat/sparkie rng check if you're at the health where its a tossup i guess. the small ones are boring
You mean you don't have enough damage?
not sparkie check
is literally impossible unless I pull a godhand of sparkies
1.5q xd yea, I'll be sitting on essence gen if my 2 more attempts don't work
95 levels so far today : )
i cant do math rn, is it better to cost 1 ladle for a 5.5% chance or use 2 for a 10% chance
just do like 10 for your sanity, laddles not that hard
lmao
ah I stopped at 650 lol
I had enough points for the super essential stuff 
dang no maxed ghastly 
yep
you also aren't doing AC mode right
i love exponential scaling
my meal situation is a bit better now
but my fire speed is starting to get lacking
figuring out break points for more point spread 
Noice
how to make fire speed better
42 is when I can start getting bravery multi right, atleast a chance for it
somewhere around there
sick idleon wikis not working
does it scale off of the main cooking speed?
447 
it should be between 42 n 45
Would be at 449 if I stopped neglecting equinox 
Is there any reason for me to actually do any of the portals/enemies after the 3rd abomination in w1
not really
welp if brave multi is 42+ I now get 4 chances for it 
for w1 not rly no
45 Uge
like how bad is it
multi is 47 
goddamn... my fucking cook spd didn't even move from e88
bravery cook spd sucks ass
Its not bad, I just keep neglecting the game only have 2 more levels available till I go back to summoning
average additive experience
eyy
beginner 523 hits hard
i almost lost the fair play at 218 like 8 minutes in, i would've screamed
yeah cooking, gaming, dmg and other idk are not that good anymore the more you go, is just mining eff and other thing higher in prio
meh I could probably get it 600 rn but lazy, not like it even needs those points
wonder how far I can get into bravery atm, havent done it in 2 months 
show multi xd
guess I'll just do ww and pray for cook spd from fluride to be enough
monument or bravery multi lol
monu, likw 4.9ร thing
probably like Fucking 7ร or smth

yeah so it'll be big

the one that declines after 4 days dude

idk what it's called 
this?..
hey wanna gut kama? he got like 3 bravery multi already 
-# in game ofc
oooh this lmao
yeah rewards multi!
I was actually pretty close with 7ร wow
my bravery doesn't look so good
was gonna wait till 100k
but then I started slowly removing people from it and its taking forever
hmm that dmg is too high compared to like gaming 
I mean I take anything except gaming-

dmg actually useful too since emp
how much does it even impact
I am definitely not about to candy some wurms
better then gaming bits (literally useless)
had my fill with cooking and gaming, now taking bfr, dmg and opal chance
bravery dmg bonus? not that much
that's not a lot of statues 
bravery main 
hmmm I'm kinda ignoring bfr cuz no update anytime soon
that cannot be called bravery main 
you've not seen true bravery main
oh yeah you really did NOT do bravery in months
nada
yuh uh 
I havent done much in months, kinda bored ngl
AOD true bravery main -> ignoring it
jesus
seeing the monument afk gains kinda low on bravery makes it seem painful to reach ngl
will see how far I can go 
easy
for a 5% chance
why 
that's like... 4 laddles man
at least compared to justice when i just gamba zzz
div grind time, for 450 talents
yea but its for a 5% chance
4 laddles are literally free i have like 1k now i think
4 laddles for a 5% chance is insane
had to do 50 for a 2.7% kek
lmao
somewhat easy to get to 32 (is 32 for monu bonus I think?) then is getting it
hmm im not even sure what to grab as rewards from bravery
ohh
nvm im rng carried
What bonuses should I prioritize for monuments?
-# credit to shiro
Bravery:
Bravery Multi -> Monument AFK -> Bell Ring -> Villager EXP -> Mining-> Gaming/Cooking -> Bucket -> rest (Gaming/Cooking/Bucket depending on your need)
Justice:
Justice Multi -> Monument AFK -> Lamp Wishes -> Villager EXP -> Class EXP -> Summoning/Catching -> Harp -> Rest
Wisdom:
Wisdom Multi -> Monument AFK -> Droprate -> Chopping -> Rupie/CropEvo/Villager exp -> Jade -> Gambit -> Rest
mining eff > bfr > bell ping ig
class xp on justice seems so smol for me rn
how do ppl even get thousands
Is there any rewards after round 200 of arena? I went from 50 to currently at 195 no death in the relative future. Do I just go to bed
152 div is the goal I guess?
bell ping higher
2k big P is not too bad
nothing
201+ is just flex
yeah, I worded it weird
they'll have bfr available before ping xd idk what I was saying
I havent done bravery in a while, but these feel small 
wave?
10 
later wave bonus gets bonus
not bad, I get those at like 20+ lol with 4.5ร
you'll proly see some 60+
you should see upto like 60 after wave40
yeah x)
nau way 
we connected or what 
i was actually smart for once, generations will sing of this
I WAS A WITNESS I WAS THERE
I should do div grind too... 445 talents rn on boob 
then again without gs set I'm prob not getting it
445 talents on what
like total talent or talent lvl?
pls tell me its not 445 talent lvl 
+1 later from equinox
in a bit

boob
symbol level?
299 
uh equi

after this dark lantern farm I will unslack my talent level, will do some more div/lab jail
shit, ig you can level it up faster bc you don't have the other high enough x)
to max an upgrade I need to fill the bar up to 200k 
well shoot no wishes to reset summoning doublers
yep I absolutely stalled equinox, like ultra optimization xd
everything else has 1 points, dr has none, lab has none.. although I did waste 8 points on matching scrims
I'll uh.. do it after 200k bravery and dark lanterns
ah I just realised, since I got more golden hampters, I can now craft more golden cakes
why is golden food such a bottle neck ๐
from 160m damage to 29 is wild
geez
Infinite loop
real, golden hampters are such a hassle
any way to increase it?
theres no way i hit this 2% chance
but i couldnt hit the previous like 60 6% chances
what the hell man
theres 2 
i spent 300 ladles on this
gotta love it
tbf for 86 out of the 300 i wasted it bc i was so tilted that i missed a 98% chance
so realistically its only around 200
get alevel 20 ribbon on that stat
hopefully I got some spare ribbons for both the meals whem I do div grind
me when i have no ribbons
im saving my current ones for yumi and burger
how do ppl even level cooking
at least you didnt use them on a bunch of nonsense meals early
I should upgrade that fortune cookie
Finally got it
seemple
its 5%, but a better 5% cause its 5%, so 5% to 5%
mfw neglect
oh my
that is tragic
bro has lost atleast 300 gems
should I do it chat


