midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[woeful karma]

cant upgrade pasta level

like statuerific caps at 50%

[quiet crane]

cost cap somewhere but u dont have a lvl cap im pretty sure

[woeful karma]

LESSS GOOOO

pog

[quiet crane]

wait until u see ww upgrade :)

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducks-confused-surprised-what-gif-1845535727828628932

[plain heath]

what does the flag score do on SB

[quiet crane]

bones?

[woeful karma]

ah yes
the WW upgrade that i wont get for like 2-3 years lmao

[quiet crane]

as the talent describes

[quiet crane]

surely

[woeful karma]

i got W4 lab jail ahead of me

[limpid bough]

is that possible

[woeful karma]

and W5 div and hole jail ahead of that

[quiet crane]

ye im pretty sure

[woeful karma]

fuck it
brb

[quiet crane]

🤓

hi mary wasup

[limpid bough]

he doesnt have cannoli he's not getting it

[quiet crane]

lol

[limpid bough]

hi dome

[quiet crane]

how are u

[limpid bough]

pretty gooood

[woeful karma]

damn idk only got to 21

[regal wolf]

Hey
Does anyone knows what's the max cog bonus construction exp ?

[quiet crane]

idk if there is one

[woeful karma]

its basedd of your construction lv

[plain heath]

the flag score on SB

[woeful karma]

so cap increases as your level increases

[woeful karma]

someone mada calculator for cog exp max per certain level tho

[plain heath]

DB orb gives dr and exp, ES gives DR but idk what sb one does

is it just there as a timer

[quiet crane]

each respawns 1 mob

[limpid bough]

its spawns that are queued

[plain heath]

oh is that why it sometimes slows down and quickens up

the consumption of the number

[quiet crane]

bro its not db its dk 😔

[plain heath]

too many acronyms

my brain gave up on processing them

[quiet crane]

db will be ur bb

[woeful karma]

Death Bringer Blood Barb/beserk

Squire DK divine Knight RG

[quiet crane]

rg?

[woeful karma]

equiblent to DB

[quiet crane]

whats the name bro

[woeful karma]

Royal Guard based off of dungon

[quiet crane]

oh true

anyways i go bed, gn

[limpid bough]

kinda boring name

[plain heath]

i wonder what the other 3 master classes are gonna be

[limpid bough]

"divine knight" to just "royal guard"

[plain heath]

since the first 3 were some new "rebirth" thingy

[woeful karma]

honestly sounds like a downgrade from DK

[limpid bough]

gn dome

[woeful karma]

eep well

[plain heath]

hope you zzzz nicely

[quiet crane]

ill zzz uglily

[static sail]

any1 know the best trap time and type for max normal critters?

[woeful karma]

meat traps earlyier game

royal traps better then meat tho

[plain heath]

:(

[plain heath]

the trap progression confuses me

[woeful karma]

wdym

[plain heath]

the time changes + some are for shiny farming, some arent

[woeful karma]

each trap has its own specialty

[plain heath]

so after meaty it just abandons the EXP bonus?

and goes for shiny x

[woeful karma]

basic ass trap

early game shiny

honestly idk

goated exp trap for either all of the game or most of the game

also idk tbh

first true critter based trap for the game

mid-late game trap best for critters AND shinys

[static sail]

thanks!

[woeful karma]

not really abandon

if your going exp you really just go nature traps placed on Vman with masetro transfusion

[dry ingot]

so, is this the most updated talent guide or are there other ones that people usually go for: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml?pli=1

[graceful flare]

I just got done with maxing flurbo shop stats, i have 10k flurbos, should i equip my guys with tenacity rings or just go straight with emperor opals?

10k a piece will take a while tho

[small basin]

does nobisect work for the 12 mil green mush voidwalker quest?

[limpid bough]

how much are tenacity rings

[graceful flare]

2k

[small basin]

yesssssssss

[graceful flare]

I can get 1 a week pretty much

[limpid bough]

ehhhhh

I think tenacity to start, can get 5 for 1 opal

[graceful flare]

Of emperor opals i mean

[graceful flare]

So tenacity on everyone and then start getting into opals?

[limpid bough]

5 rings a week, 20 total ring slots, 4 weeks for full tenacity

[graceful flare]

Okok gotchu

[limpid bough]

as opposed to 1 ring a week, 20 weeks for full opal

[fiery fjord]

is there any faster way to level trapping besides natural traps?

[woeful karma]

ten or rex?

ten is just a stepping stone for emp opal

rex will be good for serated rex and will almost always be relevent

tho its a matter of prefrence ig in terms of that?

[near latch]

Yo whats the new team to unlock territories? heard it changed since defender got nerfed

the guide still shows the old team

[fiery fjord]

interested in this too for the last one

[graceful flare]

Honestly if u got patience i got it a couple days ago with the mono team

With very low lvl pets

Like low power

[fiery fjord]

are we talking 200k?

[graceful flare]

Na bruh i had like all around 40k pet power

[fiery fjord]

to unlock the very last territory?

[graceful flare]

Ye

[fiery fjord]

dang! whats the mono team

[graceful flare]

I think it was looter rattler mono refiller defender refiller or smth like this

[fiery fjord]

oh gotcha

[graceful flare]

The genetics i used are these ones, cant remember the order tho tbf

Just time first shield and pray

Took me 4/5 tries, dont do it on mobile otherwise itll crash after a while

[rugged edge]

Yes that s it

[fiery fjord]

how long did it take once you had the good run

[graceful flare]

But if you have peapod i think theres a much more meta and faster team

[graceful flare]

Id say 10/15 min max

[fiery fjord]

whaaaa! crazy

[rugged edge]

Did it like from left to right rattler looter mono refiler défender refiler

[fiery fjord]

i guess i gotta try again

[graceful flare]

Eitherway you gotta unlock peapod either way

[cyan oriole]

how does this ring work?

[graceful flare]

Cause u cant do equinox challenge without him

[cyan oriole]

do i have to afk at cooking?

[graceful flare]

So start trying to push w4 pets

[fiery fjord]

i did the challenge without peapod

[graceful flare]

Wave 115?

[fiery fjord]

ya

i think i used looter mono refiller burger

[graceful flare]

I just got it like 2 days ago, always failed around 100 with rattler

[graceful flare]

Oh u went the mono team, i had no patience for it in arena lol

[faint hemlock]

question, do you need to unlock star signs in order for the infinity stars to make them count?

[graceful flare]

Yes

[faint hemlock]

dang it

[fiery fjord]

so do you think theres a non mono team that can beat last territory?

[zenith hare]

yup

[rugged edge]

U can just type wave 125 arena and u can find a good one did it with like 10k power pets and less

[graceful flare]

Eh i got it now xd

[zenith hare]

peapod, trasher, looter, looter, refiller, rattler (or second peapod)

gets it done in like 5 mins

[fiery fjord]

ty vm

[graceful flare]

Thats it

[rugged edge]

What pet power we taliing

[zenith hare]

even a power of 1 would do it semi fast

[fiery fjord]

does it go peapod and trasher on far left?

[zenith hare]

looter is ur main damage sources

yeah

[fiery fjord]

thanks bruh i'ma give it a shot

[zenith hare]

and make sure you can use trasher properly

[fiery fjord]

hows that

[zenith hare]

clicking the enemy projectiles

[fiery fjord]

ah word

[zenith hare]

however it doesn't just die like defender does cause of looter

as its an ability and not an attack

[near latch]

i think there meta team for territories also had peapod, anybody knows the comp?

[zenith hare]

it do be what I said

that's the best territory killer

[near latch]

oh i thought yall were talking about the arena

[zenith hare]

pretty bad for arena

[near latch]

kk thx

Huh, no mono, thats interesting

so no more battles that take a million years

[zenith hare]

mono is still good for territory

as it takes like 10 mins in the nuke team with trasher

and is far safer

peapod, trasher, mono, looter, refiller, refiller*

you can probs guess why the other team is faster, but mono makes trasher timing easier

[near latch]

never used trasher in a team before, ima check what it does

oooooh

thats kinda good with mono

[fiery fjord]

heck ya, just knocked it out thanks guys

[near latch]

how many territories is there left after spirit field?

[near latch]

What determines a pet max power btw?

[red relic]

Egg rarity and beast master talent 14

[zenith hare]

and breeding level

[near latch]

Not pet dmg, the power they get when you roll for em, their value,

[zenith hare]

yeah those 3

the only sources for it, bm talent, egg rarity and breeding level

[near latch]

so almost nothing changes pet power then, hum

[fiery fjord]

im on arena 216

lets goooo

[full beacon]

isn't it pointless after 200? I mean if you having fun keep going for sure

[fiery fjord]

toem score?

[full beacon]

I think it's maxed already at 200, could be wrong

go have a look, the bar should be full or not

uhhh woops

[near latch]

Yo, can you level up the ww compass perk enough that the trap o vision could collect every 10 hours? like not theorically, but actually achievable numbers?

[shut hull]

Which perk would this be now

[near latch]

Critter Culture

[shut hull]

That's nice idk actually probably not

Haven't reached that but it's probably not that powerful

[full beacon]

confused about the "every 10 hours" part

what's that got to do with critter culture

[near latch]

Well, it says that critter culture increase its collection rate...

[full beacon]

that's just critter numbers still

[near latch]

Is it? Thats badly worded then

[red relic]

Eagle Eye has a reduce % at base and the node increases that % of base

Collection rate =/= collection speed or timer or duration

[limpid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bite-catbitcord-cat-cat-meme-cat-explosion-gif-17827142058596640794

nom nom

[red relic]

Me when i crave the spicy noodles

[near latch]

My rabbit every second im not looking at it...

[limpid bough]

tubby

[honest cradle]

Aye another plot

Progress marches on

[shut hull]

Glunko's reaction to that comment

[red relic]

Glunko does not look pleased

We will all be feeling its wrath in due time

[limpid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-susie-drums-rock-chapter-3-gif-12935660215166869287

[zenith hare]

too slow

[limpid bough]

omg hi bean!!!

do you know how fast fangamer sells out

[zenith hare]

probably a bit too fast

did you experience it with tenna?

[shut hull]

off topic chat 😔

[hexed shoal]

What it's like to leave a toddler unatended for 2secs

[limpid bough]

tenna's not out yet

but I want it.........

[zenith hare]

soon™

[shut hull]

Your greed sickens me

[limpid bough]

tenna with bendy arms

[hexed shoal]

This is horifying

Scariest shit I've seen

[shut hull]

Lava often does that

[limpid bough]

he should add that to the game

say touch and that...happens

[shut hull]

"lick"

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-really-mhm-cap-gif-21875118

[hexed shoal]

Goose guy is here

[limpid bough]

ok nah wtf

thats you in the gif too

nasty

[shut hull]

Yeah, where did you think I got the gif

[limpid bough]

my dad works at lavaflame2 he'll get you banned

[shut hull]

I ain't getting banned for licking Lava he's fine with it

I did win 1000 gems in a quick round of contest and this was his comment

[limpid bough]

"the guy who keeps licking me" 😭😭

NAHH

[shut hull]

No see because earlier when he was making people spam for gems I sent the gif once and everyone started spamming the gif so it gave the illusion of dozens of licks, or something

[limpid bough]

what have you done

[hexed shoal]

"LICKERS! UNITE!"

[hexed shoal]

He created an army

[limpid bough]

I will be licking lava next stream

🔥

[shut hull]

That's nice

[hexed shoal]

Not you too 💔

[shut hull]

Ah shit

[white path]

@white path Do u like being licked by James Jenkins

[shut hull]

Wait that's not the real one right he's not online

Ah good thank god

[limpid bough]

Lavaflame2: yes i love it

[white path]

Did anyone fall for it

[thorny zinc]

What am i even reading bro. I thought its lava for a sec.. on w3 chat💀

[limpid bough]

shadow are you a licker too

[hexed shoal]

I literally thought this was the actual lava 💀

[white path]

[thorny zinc]

John

I will cook you

[shut hull]

You shouldn't do that it's against Rule 8 or something

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-duck-with-me-duck-fight-me-gif-26788038

[red relic]

I have this as a poster on my mini fridge

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-flower-gif-20153808

[limpid bough]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-silly-gif-5561269159560133020

[hexed shoal]

It's so orange cat you'd think it's ai

Bcuz I literally thought that was ai at first xD

[plain heath]

how much dmg would be enough to reasonably get this? i prob cant get into 1 shot radius (at least with my basic atk)

[thick nimbus]

whats the talent level on your orb

cause the less dmg you have the more its uptime is important

[plain heath]

210 i think

more or less

[shut hull]

Get movement speed that's what helped me do the orb score ones

[plain heath]

oh should i use those potions

[hexed shoal]

Aslong as you can 1shot thats enough, rest is speed

[shut hull]

Yep

[thick nimbus]

^ you should have plenty of the green speed potions and that could help

and don't forget about golden foods that boost dmg

if you still can't do it you probably just need to focus dmg sources from other mechanics

[plain heath]

do they stack if its a different tier

[red relic]

What's the level of your shockwave slash? More levels of that means knight statue and auto attack shockwave can hit more enemies and is also decently important

[thick nimbus]

honestly idk, ive only ever had 1 equipped, cause i had max hp potion and golden foods equipped as well to further boost dk

[red relic]

Potions of same type stack yes

[plain heath]

good enough

[plain heath]

185

[thick nimbus]

also make sure you are upgrading your weapon for more attack speed

[plain heath]

i have the lustre tier one

[thick nimbus]

thats good, pretty sure i had lustre when i did this a month ago

[red relic]

Yeah you should have enough stats to get 180 score

Just place your statue on bottom and deal with the other platforms

[thick nimbus]

^

[plain heath]

stats

[shut hull]

I think you can make it

[plain heath]

no auto? i feel like active playing is always a handful and im not utilizing my basics effectively

[shut hull]

If you don't make it with auto then active, I did it with auto fine though

[fiery fjord]

you can put it on auto and if your character goes off course just correct it and put it back on auto. and keep an eye on your statue cooldown so you can quickly switch auto off to place it where you want and put auto back on

[plain heath]

lets see ig

any redundant skills?

anyways i did it

[thorny zinc]

okay i woke up. time for more idleon

[plain heath]

[shut hull]

I think that's good maybe put boomerang higher?

[west pilot]

true idleoner

[thorny zinc]

half way there

[plain heath]

lets see how cooked this will be

[thorny zinc]

real

[honest cradle]

ok super chowed through w5

Cant candy w6 sadly

[limpid bough]

2 months haha

[plain heath]

is there any strat for wormhole rift or is it just another dmg + talent lvl check

[thorny zinc]

just dmg and talent

[limpid bough]

stand on the smallest platform

[red relic]

I auto'd after placing statue and would turn off auto when statue cd was about to come up so i could place it on bottom again but if you did it then that's all that matters

[plain heath]

mm yea this is cooked

[thorny zinc]

its over for bro

[red relic]

That one was the hardest for me cuz i neglected my ES for a while

[plain heath]

dmg disparity from DK is crazy

[red relic]

Had to book stuff and make some gear

[plain heath]

basically half DMG

[pulsar girder]

havin a good WW day, 20m out from killing my fifth abom in w4, i thiiink the sixth is an overnighter and then i'm in w5

[plain heath]

do you remember your stats for it

[shrewd otter]

Anybody want to team up to clear the penguins in arcanist form? I checked lfg but it’s pretty dead…

[shut hull]

What, the party extra monsters thing?

[shrewd otter]

Yes

[shut hull]

I don't know if that will work or not

[shrewd otter]

The tips and tricks says it will

[thorny zinc]

I would say instead of that just get 400 talents

[shut hull]

Okay

[shrewd otter]

I’m like 8 days out

[thorny zinc]

then dont play AC now

[shrewd otter]

It’s basically time gated

[plain heath]

waaa

[shrewd otter]

Or, I’ll find someone to team up with and push past this. Thanks for being a punk though

[thorny zinc]

💀

i literally told you that because it is a class that you should focus later but okay

go party with ppl

[west pilot]

I Will do some Db

A bit neglected

[thorny zinc]

i reached skull major of dr yesterday

[shut hull]

Yes that is what I am doing instead of relying on others I am clicking equinox every two hours (not really lmao I forget)

[shrewd otter]

It’s literally the only thing left for me, my other master classes are maxed. I’m well over 7k account level.

[sullen hill]

Hate sanctum!!!!!

[west pilot]

I think i'm not there yet

Gotta check

[plain heath]

ngl im pushing rift knowing fully well that this behemoth is waiting for me

190 trillion hp skull

[red relic]

No unfortunately but if you can pump wormhole level more it might make it a bit easier but you may just need more damages first

[thorny zinc]

i didnt had 400 talents and i couldnt get past penguins so i just waited for it. also he will do shit without 400 talents later on too but idk shit as im being a "punk"

[plain heath]

hit 51/60

still fell short :(

[shut hull]

Okay

[sullen hill]

SHADOWWWWW

[thorny zinc]

yes mr lou

[sullen hill]

I don’t like sanctum

[thorny zinc]

everyone likes sanctum stop lying to yourself

[sullen hill]

Feels so lame to do tho reeee

[thorny zinc]

i need to do it too i stopped at 31

[sullen hill]

It gives such good stats too wish it sucked so I didn’t feel bad about neglecting

Been on 32 for legit two months or so

[thorny zinc]

crazy

[west pilot]

i did till 35

[thorny zinc]

40 or noob elle

[west pilot]

no thanks

[plain heath]

would leveling attack talents help?

[thorny zinc]

we need to catch up with qwaser

[plain heath]

theyre all unbooked

[graceful flare]

How to i get more star talent points?

Is there like a bubble or smth?

[thorny zinc]

there is a talent

this one in tab 1

[graceful flare]

Ye but its not enough

[thorny zinc]

then i think its only leveling up the character?

[graceful flare]

I mean just tp pete alone rn i need 600 points or so, is there a way i can get enough to not have to swap around presets all the time?

[thorny zinc]

oh you kinda need to swap

[graceful flare]

I entered a party dung with the wrong preset it was rough lol

[thorny zinc]

just do a damage preset and 1 for skilling

[graceful flare]

I had no attacking skills lol

[thorny zinc]

happened for me too multiple times xd

[graceful flare]

Ye thats what ive been doing but i forget to switch sometimes

Been going afk on my skilling preset while fighting

💀

[thorny zinc]

XD

[true hamlet]

I have all the attacks set up on both presets for my masterclasses for a reason

[west pilot]

Washed db

[graceful flare]

Fair enough

[thorny zinc]

neglecting fr

[plain heath]

relatable

[true hamlet]

Better than Shadow fr

[graceful flare]

Well so no bubble or anything i can use for star talent points right?

[west pilot]

Nah he did some db

[woeful karma]

does shiny chance over 100% do anything or nah

[true hamlet]

Nothing

[shut hull]

No

Did you expect it to be, super shiny, or something

[woeful karma]

no bubble relating to star talent points or masterclass points

nor vman points I don't think(?)

[woeful karma]

more shiny or something idk

now comes the second question

other then my max kv shiny snitch prayer
any other way to increase shiny gain not involving shiny chance (because jts at 100% for all I need) or more critters per trap

[thorny zinc]

bubble

[honest cradle]

ooo get a new nugget, 55k to 91k

[woeful karma]

oh?

[hollow cave]

quantity not chance they were asking about

[woeful karma]

isn't that shiny chance tho?

[thorny zinc]

oh nvm

[woeful karma]

lol

[red relic]

Sorry for delayed reply but absolutely would help especially lightning bolt attack

[honest cradle]

Hit double speed

[woeful karma]

specifically mentioned I have 100% shiny chance and also lv 50(max) snitch prayer

any other sources or?

[honest cradle]

Should I get some bit bonus now

[sullen hill]

yaya 33!

[true hamlet]

Uh

I thought you were at 40

[thorny zinc]

damn now i really need to push..

[sullen hill]

o.o

no, im not an exploiter lol

[thorny zinc]

i dont think you need to be one to push to 40 lol

[sullen hill]

maybe not this late into the patch, but those that had 40+ jar exploited day 1

[white path]

I 1 upped u

[sullen hill]

not allowed sorry!!!

[sullen hill]

imagine if i was 40 though, would have highest DR in the game :D

[woeful karma]

damn

[true hamlet]

I'm at sanctum 35

[thorny zinc]

damn its really getting wild

[sullen hill]

nice, working towards getting it up there

need to dedicate a week to it

[plain heath]

alr, are there any "redundant" attacks?

[thorny zinc]

were you talking with me?

[woeful karma]

welp
at least as I farm psn froge I can farm froge meaning more trap eff?

[sullen hill]

no myself lol

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[woeful karma]

also ello thumbthumbownerofzoo! aka Lou

[sullen hill]

hey my Hockey Helmet wearing friend

[hollow cave]

damn this quest really is just do this 100 times

[woeful karma]

I think I am still lost

[sullen hill]

you not coming back that's for sure

[woeful karma]

oh no I will

I think that's why I'm lost

[sullen hill]

from lost, to found a new home

[woeful karma]

I keep coming back to wherever I was earlier

[sullen hill]

my official cog farmer

[woeful karma]

if I wander around enough I can probably scavenge better stuff

[zenith hare]

now become tlost

[woeful karma]

currently found a cardboard box and am chilling in it

can understand why cats like them so much

[sullen hill]

good protection there

[red relic]

I'd probably aim for a bar like this but idk if volcano actually hits much if you are gonna be on a tiny platform

Maybe swap meteor and tornado but it felt more consistent with tornado first

[woeful karma]

volcano still has multihit in a sense that base attack doesnt

maybe keep it on if they can't full cycle without any skills activating or something?
idk

but if it delays the activation of the other skills have it off or something?

[red relic]

True. At least one volcano on either side should hit

[sullen hill]

we getting up there

[thorny zinc]

[sick lynx]

Hey guys what the current meta for foraging please ? i saw a picture from 2024 but im not sure if its still meta, if someone have a screenshot Ty, ( i have all pet unlocked, pet power around 100-120k )

[white lintel]

Pins mate

[sick lynx]

i know, but its from 8 months ago, still meta ?

[white lintel]

Nothing has changed

[sullen hill]

490% drag statue poggers, closing in on that 500%

[sick lynx]

so still converter meta okok i ll got for it

[zenith hare]

it doesnt change when nothing is added

in relation to pet battles

[mighty bronze]

how does one autorefine lets say 25% in salt?

[zenith hare]

you cant anymore

[thorny zinc]

balls

[zenith hare]

its autorefining at 1% always now, or its off

[red relic]

This mf better not be chopping that tree. We got a spirit lock to open

[zenith hare]

#patch-notes📝 is a great thing to look at

[thorny zinc]

[woeful karma]

0.000000000001%

[eternal goblet]

Does vman still need lvl 150? It says on wiki it says he’ll call u a noob if ur not lvl 150 but my pre lvl 150 maestro can talk to him

[hexed shoal]

Does he give you the quest?

[static sail]

whats the best strat for skull points in rift?

[hexed shoal]

Grab seigebreaker and leave him for a while

[eternal goblet]

Ye

[static sail]

kk

[eternal goblet]

Though I think it’s bugged since it says I have 0 of the 1 million kills for death note

[hexed shoal]

Check #patch-notes📝 might have been mentioned there

[hexed shoal]

Check your death note on mman should update it

[eternal goblet]

I did and the quest also says I haven’t checked death note either

Think I might have to be lvl 150, ff the quest, then talk to him and check death note again

[static sail]

shouldnt dk or bubo be more efficient tho? i usually run it with dk and it takes around an hour or so, sb seems to be slower

[hexed shoal]

DK and BUBO don't spawn an extra mob

[static sail]

is that what fuels skull mobs to spawn? prob sounding stupid here lmao

[hexed shoal]

I got like 700+ skulls from 20mins of SB rift farm

[hexed shoal]

Whenever a mob dies there's a chance for skull to transfer to the other

[static sail]

hmm k

ill give it a shot ty

[hexed shoal]

And skill spawned mobs (like wormhole and plund mobs) gain/transfer skulls

[true hamlet]

oh no, looks like I gotta do monuments too

[unkempt pilot]

i need the salts for upgrades, and my math puts it at 24 hours til full hrnnng

[true hamlet]

bravery is more brain dead, I'll do that first

[hollow cave]

does the royal worm quest require crystal custards or any crystal

[true hamlet]

any should be fine?

[woeful karma]

does higher collect rates = more total shinys?

likewise with base critters per trap

or is it more like
x shiny per trap not related to base or eff bonus or collect rates?

[hollow cave]

hmm well W1 don't increment it so description is just unclear and I think requires custard

[true hamlet]

You only get 1 "set" of shiny critters per trap, without shiny snitch, this is always 1, no matter how good the trap you place is.

[white path]

Only way to increase shiny per trap is shiny snitch prayer

Nothing else affects it

[woeful karma]

so my current state
I cannot possibly increase total shiny critter gain for the rest of the game then?

(royal traps plus lv 50 shiny snitch)

[zenith hare]

20 min claims

otherwise no

[hollow cave]

ok yea only custards, checked all other worlds and none of them work

[woeful karma]

so if I get 9500 shiny critters per collect with 60m traps

will I still get 9500 shinny critters per collect with 20m traps?

[zenith hare]

assuming 100% shiny chance yeah

[woeful karma]

it's a given

it's a shame there is no quicker trap then 20m lol

so only way to increase gains after a certain point is quicker traps got it

[woeful karma]

does collection rate effect it at all or nah

[hollow cave]

needa get a 1 second trap in W7 for the true gains

[woeful karma]

lmao true

honestly would be fine with 10m traps

valid enough to afk in town

[zenith hare]

as long as you collect ASAP

[woeful karma]

20m is pushing it
rn I'm doing every hour bc doing yardwork lol

[woeful karma]

like collecting from drone vs collecting via eagle eye
one has higher collection rate then the other

drone is like 166% and eagle eye is like 113%

[white path]

Doesn't affect shinies

[woeful karma]

got it

so 100% chance lv50 prayer 20m traps is quickest/best way to collect shinys got it

well
at least 9.5k psn froge/20m isn't half bad

tho I certainly am not getting 1000m of them anytime soon

[orchid tide]

Can anyone help me understand multikill and deathnote?

[hexed cairn]

[woeful karma]

multikill involves dealing more damage then needed to kill the monster and thus allowing yoy to get multiple kills
however it scales fast

like it could be like 50hp 100hp 200hp 500hp
it's not linnier I don't think

but it allows you to gain more kills per kill and more basic drops

(from what I understand)

you have 3 main kinds of multikil afaik

[thorny zinc]

😴

[orchid tide]

ohh ok that helps a lot thanks

[hexed cairn]

[woeful karma]

world based MK (via death note)
all/total MK (various sources like death note building level, salt lick, vials, etc)

and theb the best kind of multikill (iirc)
Multikill Per Tier
(MKpT)
which is a sort of multiplier iirc

can be gotten via cards and other sources

like woodlin spirit and NA emp

more damage means higher damage tier you can reach which means more multikill

then there is stuff like multiplied kills

like killer brightside or whatever the lab node was called

I think those are number of kills only?
like for portals and death note kills

I think

[orchid tide]

wow... ok

[woeful karma]

tried to explain the best I could with my current knowledge

I'm only W3 after all

[full beacon]

seems about right

[thorny zinc]

nerd zui activated

[woeful karma]

that is fae from what I am

far*

[full beacon]

should I rank 12 salad

[woeful karma]

I am certainly not smart enough to be called a nerd

[hexed cairn]

[woeful karma]

unless it's terraria related stuff
then maybe

[thorny zinc]

hi qwaser. just started playing idleon today?

[hexed cairn]

[thorny zinc]

damn no more dr princess?

[full beacon]

where gbread from again, keep forgetting

[woeful karma]

oh nice hteir gonna love it

[woeful karma]

gingerbread?

giftmas event

[thorny zinc]

event yeah

[full beacon]

golden bread

[woeful karma]

uhhh

somewhere W3 colo maybe?

[thorny zinc]

thats w5 colo then

[full beacon]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[woeful karma]

nvm my b

[thorny zinc]

thats oudated

[full beacon]

any class right, orb don't work?

[woeful karma]

wait it was correct at a point in time?

[thorny zinc]

yes i think

[thorny zinc]

use AC as you need to do high score

[woeful karma]

glad to ehar im not crazy

[full beacon]

ohhh ok

[thorny zinc]

you are anyway

[woeful karma]

AA and ghost go brrr

[woeful karma]

true

[thorny zinc]

i should prob finish gbread too but god damn is sooo horrible

[full beacon]

yea but I don't have 10k so you winning

[woeful karma]

so its only 100k/Gfood needed?

[hexed cairn]

finish it

[thorny zinc]

10k then 100k

[full beacon]

also didn't realize cake needed pearls

was about to crank out 10k but I had like 50 pearls left

[woeful karma]

fakin cheapoer then my current Gapple stamp upgrade req

[thorny zinc]

sorry not enough dr

[woeful karma]

the rare drop or the event/alch drop?

[full beacon]

rare from clammies

[woeful karma]

not 200x yet?

[hexed cairn]

good enugh

[woeful karma]

for shame

[hexed cairn]

[woeful karma]

i fucking hate those bastards

[hexed cairn]

do it lala

[woeful karma]

if i was petty id put them on my genocide list

[full beacon]

where does most of that come from even

[thorny zinc]

one sec

[lilac plover]

arent u still w3

[woeful karma]

along with TVs and lava shattered skull dust dudes

[woeful karma]

which is why i hate them

[hexed cairn]

wanna add it to my genocide list

[woeful karma]

lava made some W4 tab stuff need it

[thorny zinc]

done still not enough

[lilac plover]

[woeful karma]

sure why not

[woeful karma]

did i say 200?

i mean 250x

[thorny zinc]

see you in 2 months

[woeful karma]

did i say 250x?
i meant 730x

[thorny zinc]

x1M dr

[woeful karma]

di i say

2000x

[honest cradle]

Ok got down to 3.6 minute growth cycles

[hexed cairn]

is my DR good enugh

[honest cradle]

ANd I remembered I can upgrade imports

[woeful karma]

netter then eine

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[hexed cairn]

w-wut

[thorny zinc]

i see something before that 5

[hexed cairn]

nu uih

[full beacon]

oh I don't have pristine from multis, among other things

[woeful karma]

what about my DR guys

[full beacon]

grimoire too

[hexed cairn]

[full beacon]

damn should I just not farm bread then

so much dr on the horizon

I'll just get the 10k done I guess

[thorny zinc]

[woeful karma]

[honest cradle]

O I think I finally am at the point I can get the w6 shop on quick access

[full beacon]

wait it's like lowkey quick af @thorny zinc

you can do it in like 15 runs probably

[white path]

15 runs is a lot of tickets

[full beacon]

is it

[thorny zinc]

yeah its 150 tickets

i used all of my tickets rn

[full beacon]

I guess you weren't hoarding before that?

[honest cradle]

I wanna get me some tickets to get me some of that sexy w6 gfood

[full beacon]

[full beacon]

how many per run at 200 dr?

[thorny zinc]

im using my tickets pretty often. i used for w6 colo to finish the other beanstacks

[thorny zinc]

5k+

[full beacon]

oh so it didn't change significantly then

I'm getting 5400 at 100 dr

[white path]

Tell me ur using ac

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[honest cradle]

it hamptaro time

I havent thought of that since I was like 7

[full beacon]

should he be getting way more?

[thorny zinc]

i might get more

idk tbh i know i get minimum 5k

[honest cradle]

o I aged myself again F

[full beacon]

W

[honest cradle]

did you 100k all?

[full beacon]

10k

and not all, cake not included for achievo

[white path]

I don't do colo often but there's no way ur getting the same amount at 100 dr and 200 dr

[true hamlet]

w5 better for bread?

[thorny zinc]

from what i know yes

[true hamlet]

hmm

I'll try a w5

[full beacon]

nice, let us know bread

what's your dr

[true hamlet]

like 120

[full beacon]

I wouldn't expect so either but maybe there's a soft cap

idk

[honest cradle]

imat like 75 I can test

[thorny zinc]

oh right i heard another guy talking about he getting 5k

might be a cap

[full beacon]

either cap or, very large increments for breakpoints

[honest cradle]

o I hit 650 on es

that was fast

[full beacon]

there's 2 chests and it's 100x at 1 in 4

not really sure how the loot tables work tbh

[thorny zinc]

i dont know either

its too much for me. i just go do colo take bread me happy

[full beacon]

[hexed cairn]

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-flower-gif-20153808

[full beacon]

@thorny zinc you don't remember even vaguely how many runs you did?

like was it 4 or was it 7

[thorny zinc]

6

[full beacon]

oh ok

you are getting way more then, but not double

yea I'm gonna just grind it out then, no real point waiting 2 months for 200 dr

[robust marsh]

Yo

[full beacon]

sup

[robust marsh]

Hello mista gma

[true hamlet]

6k bread

uh yeah I think I know what causes the disparity

[full beacon]

it's like an extra 200 bread per 20x dr or so

just vague graph lines, not scientific

[true hamlet]

You only get a second golden chest if you hit 28m points

which doubles the number of bread you get

[full beacon]

I'm hitting 28m

[true hamlet]

yeah, Shadow may not have

[fast ridge]

Is AC still the fastest for w5 and 6 colos?

[full beacon]

oh nah he said he did 6 runs

which put him at 6900 bread per

[open kite]

what's a good team to beat the pristalle lake? ive only got 4 slots to work with rn.

[honest cradle]

that was awful, my score sucked in that colo

[full beacon]

not on AC?

[honest cradle]

it was lmao

[west pilot]

better

i will do some more tomorrow

still have 580 bones to burn

[full beacon]

ehhh what you got on bar and stuff, feel like w5 should more or less just be 1shots left and right

just throw auto and spam next wave

[thorny zinc]

only 168%? do you have drop rate mr elle?

[honest cradle]

my score is aids

[west pilot]

the what

[full beacon]

ok so the jump from 75 to 100 dr gives you a lot more than the jump from 100 to 200, which is nice to hear

[thorny zinc]

hate*😭

[west pilot]

i still have like 580 more bones to burn, but will do tomorrow, gotta go to sleep if i wanna not die on work

💀

[honest cradle]

that was 20 tickets for your test

I hope that is worth it

[full beacon]

worth

[west pilot]

will try to burn the 580 tomorrow

[honest cradle]

🙃

[full beacon]

I wonder if you can roll cakes on the coupons

[west pilot]

No

[thorny zinc]

nope

[full beacon]

sadge

which ones does w6 give best of

[thorny zinc]

eh not bad

[honest cradle]

Aye I got the 2nd meteorite event item

Dont need to go anymore

[dire breach]

I'm struggling with getting eternal lord of the undying ember what am i doing wrong ugh

[full beacon]

you probably just need to get better traps and lvl up shiny related buffs from alch and stuff

[fresh parrot]

we cant play a steam account on mobile right

[minor scroll]

nuh

[fresh parrot]

much sad

[full beacon]

you can if android

[minor scroll]

well maybe if ur android

[full beacon]

just not ios

[fresh parrot]

skib, that's kewl

[full beacon]

hmmm not sure if w6 is worth it unless you just stacking kebabs on purpose

get plenty of kebabs from w5 coupons while going for bread

[honest cradle]

idk man I got a lot of stuff doing 6

when there gonna be a pack to multiple my daily colo tickets by 5

[full beacon]

lol

probably never considering beanstalk exists

unless he does a 1m tier

[thorny zinc]

its more about the fact that you can farm gems and candies from it. so i doubt we will ever get more tickets

[white path]

It's definitely the gems

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[white path]

Lava adding so much dr that endgamers are guaranteeing 12 hour candies from every biggie hours kill

[thorny zinc]

fair point

[minor scroll]

yay

[white path]

Oh wait nvm, their guaranteeing 24 hour time candy per kill and 72 hour candies 30% of the time

[kindred basin]

Keep in mind shiny chance is per trap claimed, not per critter from traps! You should get shinies pretty quick with 20 min ones

[thorny zinc]

i really hope i get a better weapon today

[full beacon]

[strange prism]

whale moment

[thorny zinc]

[night oracle]

[white path]

U got this

[marble galleon]

what are the best meals to put my high rank ribbons on?

[hexed cairn]

yumi, cauliflower

[full beacon]

cabbage

[hexed cairn]

after you t20 them, liquid cap

why cabbage when you can prisma DC

[full beacon]

don't you need all the sources still?

[hexed cairn]

not really. yumi is so powerful as a meal, it just buffs everything that you need from the rest of the source with golden grilled cheese.

[full beacon]

no I meant like different sources of meal cook spd for dc to go off

[hexed cairn]

just get vman blood marrow

and call it a day

[full beacon]

I guess

[red relic]

whale

[full beacon]

I have cabbage ribboned and when I unlocked the last 20 meal lvls I didn't insta 110

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[zenith hare]

ribboning any cook speed meal is really bad

[hexed cairn]

well it's also because of your crop

[zenith hare]

as its just a pure ribbon x bonus to cook speed

[hexed cairn]

like

[zenith hare]

which needs like 3/4 good ribbons to get a notable difference

[full beacon]

well rip my cabbage then

[river spruce]

Drop rate help with statues from catching?

[zenith hare]

yes

[honest cradle]

man that is way more bravery damage than I have

I am starting to think I play unoptimally

[river spruce]

For oceanman statues is the move to just candy it?

[red relic]

gdi why do the arcanist weapons look like the kruk staff

i think i just accidentally threw my kruk staff on the ground

[thorny zinc]

[hexed cairn]

candy with vman

[thorny zinc]

how can you not see the thing on the corner

[red relic]

distracted gaming

[river spruce]

why vman

[hexed cairn]

it's under rare bag

[river spruce]

So "Rares everywhere"?

[hexed cairn]

at least for ocean statues

[honest cradle]

I did that with a ww weapon before I got everything to kruk

[hexed cairn]

[honest cradle]

that is right where the inventory lock icon is btw

[thorny zinc]

sure

[honest cradle]

No that is ww only

my bad

[thorny zinc]

oh wait im curious now

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[honest cradle]

I just cooked a bunch of ore to take that ss

I am annoyed

[thorny zinc]

i could just go on my ww instead if you had things to do lol

[honest cradle]

its ok im jjust very slowly getting pearler shells

But that is what I was thinking of when I said that. How I garbaged my old ww weapon by accident bc it was the normal version of that bow

[river spruce]

oh well. used alot of candies but i got the 20k

[thorny zinc]

hm should i continue farming dr or go for afk

[honest cradle]

Who looks better chat?

I think my hat is way better

[river spruce]

is .066 even noticeable?

[thorny zinc]

yes it is

let me actually show

without it

[honest cradle]

My hat is better fashion right

[thorny zinc]

with

[river spruce]

holy

[red relic]

multipliers go brrrt

[river spruce]

Thats amazing

[thorny zinc]

ohhh we got to 5% finally

[honest cradle]

Hm

[plain heath]

whys the sample so small? i have 90% rate

[honest cradle]

well rude chat

But I should do ac, I think that comparision has sold me

[plain heath]

are monster mat prints just rly bad or wt

[honest cradle]

they are

use vman on speedsrun

with the multikill attack activated

[plain heath]

i thought itd be better ngl

my WW is just not gonna be doing much then ig

[honest cradle]

theyre always bad

thats my ww

Thats vman

[river spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-the-frog-pepe-kjj-jijo-jijodebuta-gif-21840364

[honest cradle]

Just get 2ndry bug catches on it if you dont have 2 sb

[plain heath]

rip

[honest cradle]

ok mr grass fella lets see yours

[river spruce]

I dont think im even printing those

[plain heath]

mfw the flies dont exist anymore

ok theyre back from break

[thorny zinc]

lol

[red relic]

Still a bit but we cookin now chat

Got a samurai

[thorny zinc]

nicee

i havent check my villager exp in months lol

[red relic]

I am sure they miss you dearly

[thorny zinc]

decent i guess

[woven cove]

im finally gonna be able to make progress on voidman tomorrow

im currently at 38/40 1m+ kills

[plain heath]

ggs

[woven cove]

and already done chaotic chizoar a few times on other characters

so...the real question will be getting the 12m kills

i assume this is 12m kills on just the one character?

[hexed cairn]

on vman yes

[woven cove]

sigh figured....guess ill have to use that 72 hour candy right away

[hexed cairn]

do it

vman is your family

[red relic]

don't neglect your vman like your parents did you

[woven cove]

....right, yeah i'll get right on that when im not busy with my other characters and trying to balance out my salt production

[plain heath]

do i just slap the enemies on speedruns

[woven cove]

the whole balancing my salt production is going to be hell

[red relic]

what else would you do to them?

[red relic]

yes but the sooner it is done the more happy you will be

[minor scroll]

whats ur kph

[woven cove]

not even looking at it rn, because i've got all my guys tasked out on the rams and skelebobs for the 1m kills

[plain heath]

like the abilities

anyways i finally got decent progress on vman speedrun

[minor scroll]

oh nice

[red relic]

Whip good to use as you are running, void radius you wanna use on a map that has a lotta mobs and also need help opening portal on cuz it gives you a ton of multikill/tier. everything else is irrelevant or detrimental

[plain heath]

also i got spoils from the war lmao

[plain heath]

the coins did clutch up at the end

[red relic]

There is a lot of little bits to help push speedruns further if you wanna look in #1084911530417606656 and find the portal speedrun guide there

[red relic]

coin is not bad but it can lead to some bad click interactions at least for me on mobile

[strange prism]

[plain heath]

yea i wouldnt say its the best, just that its some nice emergency kills near the end of the multi kill skill

ngl idk what to print on my final 3 characters (spare DK, mage, archer)

[red relic]

2nd dk means more ore. i have 1 slot of copper then the rest other ores that my first DK hasn't sampled

[plain heath]

alr

[red relic]

Same with mages tbh. 1 slot of oak logs and then more trees that the others haven't done

once you get to working with the atom collider having a ton of excess of resource just means more atoms to buy upgrades with

also upgrading vials/bubbles takes a lot of resources so never bad to have more and more

[plain heath]

wt abt archer

mob prints are bad and its not hunter so cant really catch that well

[red relic]

bowman is the catching guy

[plain heath]

oh well whatever the subclass before SB is

[red relic]

Yeah so SB is the catcher so i'd sample flies, mosquisnows, and then w/e other catching material you'd want. maybe fruitflies and butter

or bees

[minor scroll]

bowman

[plain heath]

wtf does basic class archer do

[minor scroll]

smithing

[plain heath]

cant print smithing

[minor scroll]

ye

[plain heath]

so wt does it print

[minor scroll]

bug

[hexed cairn]

basic archer print refinery

[plain heath]

mk

ill prob do gmush cap and sand then

i couldnt fit sand into my WW prints

(no gem gaming)

[polar geyser]

i heard you hit 351x dr on clammies

[hexed cairn]

i did

i would hit 370x if i get lucky with my ribbons

maybe 400x in a month

[polar geyser]

thats bigggg no sadgeeee

[polar geyser]

wellll theres another alternative, just max major skull of droprate all 999,999

[red relic]

hi jake

[polar geyser]

and you can skip the 400x barrier and go straight to 15000x

[polar geyser]

good morning loder

[red relic]

Lookie what i got today

[polar geyser]

the samurai?

[red relic]

Yeah!

[polar geyser]

also hello mista dadoums

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[polar geyser]

MASSIVEEEE congratulations

[red relic]

I have 10x'd me villager xp gain in the past 2 days

[polar geyser]

what have you gotten to now

[red relic]

5.6m. Still but it is better than 500k

[polar geyser]

thats double me

[sleek pollen]

elo mista jakey

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[thorny zinc]

hi dad

[polar geyser]

morning shadow

[thorny zinc]

morning

[polar geyser]

im nearly there to w4

im just brute forcing it

also a 1/49,899 to get the medallion and it just dropped

which says a lot about how long its been lmao

[sleek pollen]

elo

[polar geyser]

oooo dadoums i would like your professional opinion in like an hour when i eventually kill this about something to do with holeee if i can

[sleek pollen]

[sleek pollen]

sure thing

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/bHq11.gif

[polar geyser]

a wild shadow

[thorny zinc]

hm 1h - 227 shells

[sleek pollen]

I was at clammies, he was there, and not anymore, now he's in town

[sleek pollen]

44 052 more 1 hour candy now

(greenstack ofc)

[pulsar girder]

I’m leaving the last w4 abom to go overnight and then i can go w5 mode

[thorny zinc]

i have a better idea

[sleek pollen]

[sleek pollen]

name it I'm all 👂

[polar geyser]

turns out hes all in your head

[thorny zinc]

100k gcakes rn

[pulsar girder]

Any cool stuff in w5 for ww like how w4 had the power rings? It looks like it’s just bigger numbers in w5.

[sleek pollen]

ohh

[final tide]

Is it more important to get opals
Or the other buffs from monument?

[sleek pollen]

better bow

[pulsar girder]

Yeah that’s what i meant by bigger number haha

[thorny zinc]

always get the opals

[sleek pollen]

What bonuses should I prioritize for monuments?
-# credit to shiro
Bravery:
Bravery Multi -> Monument AFK -> Bell Ring -> Villager EXP -> Mining-> Gaming/Cooking -> Bucket -> rest (Gaming/Cooking/Bucket depending on your need)
Justice:
Justice Multi -> Monument AFK -> Lamp Wishes -> Villager EXP -> Class EXP -> Summoning/Catching -> Harp -> Rest
Wisdom:
Wisdom Multi -> Monument AFK -> Droprate -> Chopping -> Rupie/CropEvo/Villager exp -> Jade -> Gambit -> Rest

[pulsar girder]

Do you make like several different bows for it or just go with a big single bow to push w5 aboms

[honest cradle]

really ive never taken an opal lmao

[sleek pollen]

dust bow bc dust, fire and ice bc almost all abom are either ice or fire, beside first one who is grass

[thorny zinc]

im cooked. i forgot that i need golden nomwiches too

[honest cradle]

btdubs does ac need dr for its master mode? Like ww can convert dr to its special dr

[final tide]

Who do i dump my opals into

[sleek pollen]

crystal farm at beans now

[thorny zinc]

[sleek pollen]

we can't decide for you, that depends on your villager level and exp rate ig

[sleek pollen]

yeah from an upgrade later

like way later than anyone has gone proly

[honest cradle]

kk thnx

ok chat what is my prio

[final tide]

Do i throw all of my chars onto the altar for a bit to get the 100% offering before going back to grinding deathnote for Dharmann

[sleek pollen]

deathnote for dharmann?

[pulsar girder]

Excited to see what gains i get from actually spending any time on ac when i get to 400 talents in a week or so 🙂
i noped out at pincers and had gotten zero useful upgrades for outside of ac mode so far

[polar geyser]

do you lot ever get worried pressing any button when youre doing a long grind thing like an abomination etc that youll accidently just leave like switching characters or forgetting it nearly being done and just leaving

[sleek pollen]

also which god?

[pulsar girder]

Yeah or whitescreen

[polar geyser]

whitescreen has me shaking ngl

its been like 8.5-9 hours

[final tide]

Dump all of your points into… actually wait all of the AC upgrades are good shit.

[sleek pollen]

yeah when the portal is close to the abom or I know I can missclick to it x)

[final tide]

Im in early w5 rn and im trying to get to arctis for the major link buff. But rn im still on snake💔

[sleek pollen]

-# definitely did not happen to me once, tho it was only 30 minute into it

[polar geyser]

oh hey a second medallion at 1/50000 rates pretty much

but yeah that worries me way too much aswell

[sleek pollen]

oh yeah sure you always div jail until 5th god at least

[polar geyser]

i literally like tab out of the tab to make sure i cant be stupid

[sleek pollen]

also arctis should be quite easy to get even without 100%, hopefully

or ig wait for 100%

[honest cradle]

now im guessing the whole skipping portal unlock requirements isnt a thing now

[sleek pollen]

also when you do aboms you might want to remove uwu rawr and deer talent from bar (even reset them for other talents) bc your char chould go on to kill normal mobs instead of hitting abom