midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[strange prism]

I get like 6-7 procs while afking the area so It shouldnt take much to fix

damage seems fine for the most part, its just the kills needed to fill crystal and respawn speed/amount

might need to add more spawns to the middle platform

[twin spire]

GOD ITS BEEN SO LONG SINCE I GOT A RELIC

[dark stratus]

How the heck am i supposed to gain the blue souls????

[white lintel]

The TD in w3

[twin spire]

World 3 at the snowmans i think

[dark stratus]

I am here

Got trhough wave 9

didn't get anything

[white lintel]

Weird

[hollow cave]

did you clear wave 9 before wave 10 started?

[dark stratus]

I mean, i failed. But I completed at least 4 or 5 waves

Got 0 souls

Never done the W3 before

The worship thing

[hollow cave]

if you never cleared all active waves at a given time I don't think it counts as you completing any

[twin spire]

uuuh what do i upgrade gang?

[white lintel]

Check your max wave of it

[night oracle]

First reward for ALL TDs starts at wave 10 completed

[pulsar girder]

okay i was close

: )

[white lintel]

Bottom blue or top red

[night oracle]

gg

[dark stratus]

Oh i see. Thanks!

[twin spire]

you got a free doot? nice

[strange prism]

you need top fill the bar 15 times, so his crystals kinda buns if he needs 2,4k

that would be a 168 crystal

[pulsar girder]

my friend who got me into the game gave me a bunch of pets when we started and then i bought a couple bundle ones to give back and we had a Doot Deal made and he just dooted

[hollow cave]

I think my crystal needs 170, and that's back in W3

[merry tendon]

What should I be picking with the eggs I got rn

[strange prism]

im buggin you need to fill it 16 times, 15 if youre lucky enough to spawn +1

[white lintel]

170/11 is 15.45 round up to 16

[strange prism]

fml cant type for sht

[twin spire]

LOOOL

[strange prism]

ya ik

[pulsar girder]

so what do i do with div now do you just link one guy to purrmep and nothing else matters and you take the conjuror points off the pocket div?

[twin spire]

One in a krillion

[hollow cave]

make sure you get all of your characters to at least lvl 2 div

[strange prism]

still a bad crystal, 158 isnt that low

[hollow cave]

ideally higher as minor link bonuses still scale with Div level

[pulsar girder]

yeah they're all tran-qi'd up

[hollow cave]

ah I see, then yea Doot should just be fully working on them

[pulsar girder]

yeah i'm god rank 0 with all of them unlocked, i do have a guy linked to purrmep, i think that's all i gotta do based on what i've seen previously

[hollow cave]

Purrmep I think is the one thing you mentioned that yea you need someone actually linked to it

[strange prism]

I get 180/hr could easily push this more. Can lowkey see it being possible to pass suggma even if he doesnt reduce it, but would take so much effort

[polar geyser]

my build rates gone from 8mil to 20mil cause of mastery lets gooooo

[graceful flare]

Where do i drop dragon statues? I havent unlocked it yet

[twin spire]

well , i can only wait until he unlocks wurms

[twin spire]

you get them from ancient golems no?

[hollow cave]

it comes from C15 of the hole

[pulsar oracle]

im mfing dooted

[graceful flare]

Damn c15

In still in fking c11

[pulsar oracle]

i rolled a damn doot baby. oooh baby

[pulsar girder]

we're dooted

[strange prism]

was there ever an answer to where arcade buff came from?

[twin spire]

🥀

[pulsar oracle]

the dooted two'ded

[twin spire]

Everyone be getting rich but me tf is this

[pulsar oracle]

socpen shoutout respect

[hollow cave]

which arcade buff do you mean? or do you mean the bug thing?

[twin spire]

GIVE IT TO ME

👹

[strange prism]

is it a bug

[hollow cave]

I assume so since lava doesn't display the value it should be

[pulsar oracle]

sorry i already fulfilled my Honor Oath with gary

[pulsar girder]

🫡

[twin spire]

OH YOU'RE THE FRIEND

[pulsar girder]

yeah lol

[twin spire]

Lol

[hollow cave]

off the formula present though I think all linear arcade bonuses when cosmiced are 1% higher and decay bonuses are approximately 0.5% higher than their listed value

[pulsar oracle]

actually i plied him with free pets when he started and got him to agree to doot me if he ever dooted, yet i ended up dooting first. basicaly gary needs to donate blood and plasma until he can get me rift jocund

[polar geyser]

lets goooo

[twin spire]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-unclephuc-mha-my-hero-academia-all-might-gif-9745763489067602529

Next doot has to be mine...

[twin spire]

lol

[pulsar girder]

i DID buy you the deer i'm not a complete mooch

[pulsar oracle]

thats true

i also subtly make you figure out hard stuff and then just steal whatever youre doing

[twin spire]

dont even have the rally bruh

[pulsar girder]

and you better believe if the mallay bundle shows up i'm buying you that one

[strange prism]

[hollow cave]

and it just stems from cosmiced bonuses being stored as lvl 101 instead of 100, which is how the game determines they are cosmiced, but as a consequence of that it also uses 101 as the level for the formula which increases their value pre-double to >100%

[pulsar oracle]

i dooted you i have naming rights on your firstborn

[pulsar girder]

naming them 'doot'

[plain heath]

is this decent now? i have no card doubler and im working on crystallin stamp

[polar geyser]

i will trade you the formula to hitting consistent 25k's on poing for rift slug

[hollow cave]

so you have cases of like the MC resource things being 1% per level increased to 100% at lvl 100, then you cosmic it and it displays 200% but it's actually (1*101)*2 or 202% and then with deer it doubles again to 404% instead of the listed 400%

[twin spire]

I NEED THAT SAMURAI

[pulsar girder]

looks good to me. obviously gets better as you keep going with the stamp

[polar geyser]

rift 46 soon

15 rifts to go then im doneeee

[hollow cave]

you're effectively done when you reach 56

[vital verge]

Rifts of Pain and Doom

[polar geyser]

OH WAIT i cant count

[hollow cave]

clearing 56-60 just does nothing currently

[polar geyser]

11 more to go

BIGGGG

[plain heath]

yup i’ll make sure to lv it more and prep for the card doublers like next year or smth

[polar geyser]

i was on like rift 32 the other day so my brains already fried

[white lintel]

2400 kills would be a 150 crystal requirement
At 1500 he’d need 94

[plain heath]

how much dmg do you have btw?

[polar geyser]

this is like one of my low ones

[strange prism]

im referring to the crystal upgrade, the talent reduces the amount needed by 8 so his crystals only 158

thats buns

[white lintel]

I’m referring to the number the talent displays

Not talent, upgrade

[strange prism]

then they wouldnt need 2400

[pulsar girder]

glad i was pumping this. now that everyone is also giving me these two

[white lintel]

You need 2400 kills and 150 crystal to get 16 spawns

[hollow cave]

yea snehebatu and goharut combined is a significant portion of AFK gains especially earlier on

[pulsar girder]

did that pic not go through, its Big P at lv1200

[strange prism]

[polar geyser]

nearly tottoise

time to get me some cyan too

[pulsar girder]

that and the 3x printer on everyone feel like the biggest gains to me

[hollow cave]

not having to juggle pocket divinity is nice I imagine for it aswell

[pulsar girder]

i got to cyan like a day before AC launched and with the AC talents booked up a bit i won like 70 summoning matches in a day lol

[pulsar girder]

especially for big sample days yeah! and i was flipping it daily omniphau -> harriep for vman's printer button active -> omniphau after and i don't gotta do that now

i guess i can wish back the pts from pocket div

[hollow cave]

my standard is just harriep+omni on pocket with all characters bound to either arctis or goharut as needed

[pulsar girder]

little low on wishes but i'll be able to this week for sure

[pulsar girder]

mine had been
AC goharut
db/dk nobisect
shitty ES purrmep
everyone else snake
pocket arctis/omni

[hollow cave]

I just replace omni with others if I need them while active for something since I can just slap it back on before swapping

[pulsar girder]

yeah

[polar geyser]

btw does your lots summoning screen lag when doing upgrades?

[pulsar girder]

Endless Summoning starts out not as hard as whatever cyan you're on

[pulsar girder]

yes its crazy lol

[polar geyser]

like i apparently have a nasa pc

cause i can deal with the little stutters i get on poing, but even im on like 2fps on summoning screen

[hollow cave]

oh also a benefit you get from having Doot, pocket divinity now just gives all stat instead since its original purpose is nullified by doot

[pulsar girder]

yeah i was figuring i'll wish those points back and put them in more villager exp stuff in a few days when i get some wishes to spare

still missing one important one haha

[hollow cave]

you'll still need the one point in it to have the future green conjuror bonuses if you are using em like forge, but yea can reclaim the one point if you could get more value out of something else

[polar geyser]

might be able to get through a few of these now then

but the stats dont help me, time to brute force it with mass spam lmao

[hollow cave]

oh nice almost got em all

all the ones I'm missing are the high rarity companions (Doot Slug Sam Jocund and exclusives)

[pulsar girder]

makes sense

hope everyone gets all of them quick! worst thing in game for sure

[hollow cave]

yea I'm at least past the point I'm super needing Samurai, Jocund I'd mainly want to just do Apocalypse WOWs on DB so I'm just hoping I can get Doot/Slug from free rolls

[pulsar girder]

i'm hoping i can push villager exp hard enough that i get from wisdom to gambit in the next 3 weeks, got to wisdom today

[strange prism]

[pulsar girder]

sanctum looks insanely far away still but also looks less important than gambit 2 me

[hollow cave]

it's a good chunk of DR and dragon statue is very strong, so it's good to get when you can in a reasonable amount of time

[pulsar girder]

full send opals on one guy (with 2x parallel villager) is about to tip over 12mil so the 6bil would be about 3 weeks if i get no further increases. they're on engi for the next couple days though lol

for gambit. sanctum would be waaaaay longer obvi

but i'm at 2.5k/2048/300 afk hours on the 3 monuments so far and it looks like they'll get pretty real villager exp gains because of that time investment? should be fine

plan is 2000 wisdom -> all in on bravery i think to 24000 maybe

but i'll probably get bored before then and do one of the other two for a bit. idk.

but the all-in would be really good because i'm already at this on bravery so bravery multi would go hard

[hollow cave]

oh just went to check the wiki had EXP values for explorer updated I think

c15 is 57.3B

[pulsar girder]

yeah lol i was looking at the old wrong ones yesterday and was so sad when someone told me they were way too low

[hollow cave]

which I think matches what it was whne I was getting it (ingame display was 58B I think due to rounding)

[plain heath]

dam thats still 5x one of my highest

[polar geyser]

youll get thereeeee

[hollow cave]

oh yea went back in this chat and I think this was my exp when I was going for C15 (this was a couple days into it so would be a bit lower when I started probably around 300m)

[hollow cave]

out of curiosity do you have Villager statue from gloomies onyxed?

[white lintel]

That’s about what I had on C11-15 launch, I think it took me 4-5 days to get to C15 with that?

[night oracle]

nice

[pulsar girder]

yeah def

and vman statue talent booked to 289 my max

[hollow cave]

C15 requirement was increased significantly at some point, not sure if that was on launch or shortly after but I think it was increased over 10x for specifically C15

[white lintel]

Yea I lost my pre-req C15

All the stuff was upped and I started at C13

[hollow cave]

ah ok yea checking wikis old value, 4,953,137,310 -> 57,258,267,464

[pulsar girder]

loool

[hollow cave]

ah

[twin spire]

Is there any food with ''lamb sauce'' in the name in the cooking skill

[white lintel]

Wait

[twin spire]

if not what a waste

[white lintel]

Lava changed it again?

[hollow cave]

this was a fair bit ago

[white lintel]

After C11-15 update not on that update launch?

Ik it was changed on update launch

[hollow cave]

I think so since the wiki had old values listed, but I wasn't even in the 11-15 section by the time it was this high

so I'm not sure when it actually happened

that might've been the shift on release

[white lintel]

Sounds like the shift on release

[night oracle]

Go hit them emotes

[hollow cave]

ah ok, but yea the multi-hundred mil range is probably a good point to go for it, takes around a week or so depending just how high

[white lintel]

Okay I’m remembering more, I started at 300 and went up to 5-600 as I pushed C15

[hollow cave]

ah, makes sense you'd get some from the caverns as you went

[white lintel]

Eh

Only jars really

[hollow cave]

the 360m point I had was from some significant increases from jars I think

and gettign the villager pristine I think

[white lintel]

I think the extra jars pushed me from 300 to 500

[pulsar girder]

i mean i think at this point my main villager exp gains are gonna be uhhhhhhhh monuments....measurer a bit......there's that one pristine that would be crazy to get.... and then after i get gambit i'll push engi a bunch and get to page 2 collectables and actually start doing jars and get lots there i assume

but i'd rather just push gambit than push jars first i think

[white lintel]

Jars is he’ll

[pulsar girder]

it looks unreliable

[night oracle]

He lowered it lmfao

My guy just wants to post

[pulsar girder]

lol

[twin spire]

the evil voidwalker masterclass

that will just be beginner with a glock

[night oracle]

Bruh I got 0 pristines today

[white lintel]

It just prestige’s everyone’s skill levels

[hollow cave]

I'm curious to see what the Beginner MC's gimmick will end up being

[night oracle]

Actually scammed

[white lintel]

Click more charms

[pulsar girder]

prestige the entire game for void beans

[night oracle]

Should I just delete the rosaries and farm new ones later?

[white lintel]

I would

[hollow cave]

if your inventory is filling, yea

[night oracle]

Fair

[hollow cave]

regetting your charms will be trivial with the meteorites

[worn raptor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-hello-hi-silly-kitten-cat-wave-hello-gif-15245852903591135367

[hollow cave]

even if a mastery down you can always get intermediary ones and then move back up for full strength ones

[night oracle]

Yeah except Idk if I can get them in M3 because I don't think I can hit 0% without them

So that's -210 max level

Veils are doable with meteor+rosaries, but for farming rosaries I need rosaries+veil :(

[white lintel]

Just get new gear in m2 and then get real gear in m3

[night oracle]

I guess

My sneaking is stuck either way

M4 is way too hard for me rn 😭

[twin spire]

we're 20 meats away boys

[white lintel]

I’ve just been gem farming before pushing to m5

[twin spire]

hgem farm = killing doot and biggie and that's it?

[night oracle]

He posted a picture where are patch notes

Scammed to the max

After a LONG time

• Territory Fight Power as a mechanic has been REMOVED. Combat pets (the red ones) no longer have a use in Territories to gather spices, only the Foraging pets do (the green ones).
????????

[twin spire]

all i see is freebies

[night oracle]

• Arcane Kills needed to break the Biggole Wurm Barrier (9th map of World 4) lowered from 70 to 30.
• Arcane Kills needed to break the Purple Mushroom Barrier (1st map of World 4) lowered from 70 to 45.
• Arcane Kills needed to break World 5 Barriers on your Arcane Cultist has been lowered from 170 to 80.
HUH????

That's not a balance patch
That's like the removal of Berlin's wall

[hollow cave]

more than that I'm curious how severe this is Time limit for Arcane Barriers in World 4 and 5 lowered by many seconds.

[pulsar girder]

well!!!!! i might get some summoning doublers pre gambit then lmao

if there's summoning doubler-type effects from these quests.

i'm at endless 75 or something i imagine i can beat some of them!

[hollow cave]

I also wonder if W6 was reduced at all

[plain heath]

a a a a

[night oracle]

So like shorter time but way lower kills needed

[night oracle]

[white lintel]

Sneaking gems

[hollow cave]

for World 5 yes, but for World 4 only 2 maps had their amount reduced

but the line implies ALL of them had the time reduced

[night oracle]

That's.... weird

[twin spire]

ooh

[plain heath]

thats what happens when a dev is rushed to release an update and now has a softlock bc they didnt have enough testing time

[night oracle]

• Summoning Stones are FINALLY here, with 7 of them found throughout the IdleOn worlds! These stones are a BOSS mode, where you must defeat a slow-moving GIANT before he reaches your end. If you win, you'll get an amazing new winner's bonus of a new 2x multiplier to all* bonuses of that stone type! (NOTE: not quite all. Only bonuses that can be doubled by Summoning Doublers are affects.)
Does this mean quadrupled "Seeing Red"?

[hollow cave]

probably yes

[night oracle]

That's going to be VERY interesting

Pushing for those 302 max books xD

[pulsar girder]

i wonder if all 7 are doable without being at gambit

[worn raptor]

remember change essence setup to atk setup

[whole apex]

Where can i turn off auto collecting traps?

[night oracle]

Me who doesn't have an essence setup on anyway :)

[plain heath]

• Changed "Auto Refine" to be a toggle. It's either OFF, or its ON, in which case it will refine into salt whenever it has any Power at all.

if im reading that correctly, does that mean my red and green can auto rank up?

[night oracle]

Yes

Wait no

[hollow cave]

it's changing the % threshold to a just refine when any power is present

[night oracle]

It's just that there's no 0/10/25/90% anymore

[pulsar girder]

yeah instead of 10/25/50/90/off its just on/off

[night oracle]

It's just refine even if it's just 1 or don't refine at all

[plain heath]

oh

[white lintel]

guess im going back to AC tomorrow

[plain heath]

why :(

red powder takes so long to get to max

[white lintel]

bc the different auto refines dont do anything different

[twin spire]

God i need candy

[white lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/719797579638112340/1362080363899257024/catcandy.gif

I too, should farm candy

[plain heath]

what happened to your reserves

[twin spire]

burned for my alchemist to smooth sail world 5

they ended halfway in the weird tiki masks Lol

[plain heath]

wat

i dont understand ngl

[twin spire]

NEED TREMOR WORM OR NO FUNNY PRISMA BUBBLES MAN

[plain heath]

oh candy through portals?

ngl the wurm thing was a pretty silly dmg check

[twin spire]

How much hp do they have?

[twin spire]

meh , i think i can do it

[plain heath]

i had to use w6 health food for the first time to actually survive

ive never had that issue since like w4 elite pushing

[night oracle]

Yay

[twin spire]

I can always give him some golden kebabs ig

[plain heath]

wt tentacleye lvl do you have btw

[twin spire]

Man.

[night oracle]

400+

[twin spire]

i see there's room for improvement but shit 20k an hour

[night oracle]

:(

[white lintel]

need more dmg

[night oracle]

@white lintel do you have 12 arcane mobs per crystal charge?

[white lintel]

think about it

[twin spire]

how many prisma bubbles have you gotten?

[night oracle]

We talking total or from AC?

[twin spire]

ac

[night oracle]

27

[white lintel]

no one has 450 talents yet

[night oracle]

I don't have the talent for higher chances upgraded

[night oracle]

Ahh, didn't know it needed 450+

Would've been nice if weapon power was involved....

[white lintel]

goes up every 50 talent levels

[night oracle]

Ohh I see

[plain heath]

yea it starts at 3 and +1 every 50 lvls

[night oracle]

I misscounted :(

I needed 1 more spawn

Which I only got after killing all the arcane mobs

Time to look for more dmg

[white lintel]

so

I did my w5 minis

[red relic]

that's some big time domeo

[twin spire]

are those good

[white lintel]

yes

15% DR

[digital seal]

best crystal cattle farming spot?

[twin spire]

ppl use those instead of dice?

[white lintel]

dice is less DR than these

[white lintel]

pins

[plain heath]

what ive learned is that if the base is a shape higher than the previous, it has better DR

[twin spire]

yeah...and i supose those do more things

other than just droprate

[white lintel]

should be bloodbones for w3

[plain heath]

tbf +5 LUK is a pretty low bar to beat when its alr at a 5% DR disadvantage

[twin spire]

The update is comming in a matter of days right?

[twin spire]

well , rerolling them wont fix anything so they'll just stay like that for a while

[white lintel]

are you blind

[twin spire]

5 MORE LUCK

[twin spire]

Oh , sorry bear

😟

[red relic]

feels like it is taking so much longer to get my afk moon unlock than it did for my afk bone one x.x

[white lintel]

farm gmush

[night oracle]

Bruh that's exactly after my dinner break at work :(

[white lintel]

unfortunate

[honest cradle]

Good lord just a casual 4 upgrade stone fails

[white lintel]

why are you surprised by that

[alpine scarab]

3 freebys damn best update

[twin spire]

Dont even know what ribbons do but its FREE

[red relic]

boost meal effect

[twin spire]

Oh , i dont think i have meals worth boosting atm

But its good to have

[white lintel]

rare newb thought, thank you for not using ribbons on bad meals as soon as you get a good one

[twin spire]

And i guess they buff meals cuz presentation is everything

[twin spire]

Why would i want to double my 20% damage turkey with an extremely limited resource lol

[white lintel]

ive seen T16 ribbons used on the egg meal

[twin spire]

Dont even know what a t16 ribbon does but it seems annoying to get

i'll guess like 3x effect

[white lintel]

i think like 3.6x meal effect

[twin spire]

holy moly

if only deathbringer wasnt extremely annoying to get (easier than AC and i could get it in a matter of hours)

[white lintel]

or just spend 20$ on DB pack

[twin spire]

20 dollars translates to roughly 110 of my money lol

Not spending allat on idleon

[lilac plover]

its better to be f2p

[white lintel]

i mean the number doesnt mean the same thing it depends more so on what an equivelent item would be like food

[twin spire]

time fixes everything , even my idleon account

[lilac plover]

slower progress but you can quit anytime you want

(i say this but i spend)

[twin spire]

getting some of the rarer pets has proven to be a real pain

Slug , samurai , jocund

[polar geyser]

it might be time for me to ghampter farm tonight

[lilac plover]

you can try your luck in #trade-discussion and try to hope for a giveaway

[twin spire]

LOOOOL that's really delusional

[lilac plover]

i got a samurai from a giveaway

[white lintel]

I have a time proven strat to get them all day 1 of trading bc lots of giveaways and friends have them fresh

[twin spire]

I wish

[twin spire]

🤤

[polar geyser]

i need to start sitting in trade discussion chat but i feel bad like im sitting for handouts etc

[lilac plover]

🤷 its up to you tbh

for f2p its just easier to accept handouts

than rely on the weekly treat and hope to get a good pet

[twin spire]

Okkkk...i'll stare at pet trades

[lilac plover]

if you need sheepies/ram i can give one

[red relic]

sheepie very nice cuz i always forgot to swap my bubblees around as needed

[plain heath]

sammy being so rare is mmmm

[lilac plover]

fuck update when i have work the next day and cant stay up

[alpine scarab]

frfr free shit best shit

[twin spire]

free things feel good to have

[twin spire]

Some kind soul gave me sheepie so early on

[alpine scarab]

its always good to have

[twin spire]

that i never needed to check my big bubbles

[alpine scarab]

noce i got warned for begging for gmush

[twin spire]

LOL

[plain heath]

how effective are true dmg multis

[static sail]

if my printer items have a star, whats the multiplication rate? ik purple is 6x

[alpine scarab]

vgood

[white lintel]

2x dmg is 2x bigger dmg bumber

[alpine scarab]

3x

[plain heath]

blue yellow purple for 2 3 6

[static sail]

guess i messed up smth lmao

[alpine scarab]

blue is 2x gold is 3x and purple is 6x

[twin spire]

true multi = bigger bonk

[plain heath]

so the new AC thing will boost my dmg quite a bit

[white lintel]

depends how big it is

[alpine scarab]

but some times might be visal error so if u have lab and god active it might still show gold

[plain heath]

i mean even a small one would still affect it a bit right?

since it’s multi

[white lintel]

yea, but if its like 5% its not that huge

[plain heath]

1.05x?

i’ll take it

[polar geyser]

@limpid bough hows progress going

@white lintel question, if i get 10k ghampters and then beanstalk them and get the sailing claim chance, would that apply to exisiting afk before ghampters

Bigggg

that means i can overnight my dk and get the 10k ghampters potentially, while all my guys are doing rift atm

and they will have like 16 hours each probbaly by the time i get them

if i get them overnight atm

[white lintel]

should

[polar geyser]

i just lost my bravery run at 2.2k hp with 5 swords that can go to 800 each

because i rolled 2 under 100's as my first two lmao

a like 79 and 94

we love to see it

[dreamy solar]

Screw it I pushed to w4 time to turn around and do a bunch of horizontal prog

[polar geyser]

[red relic]

Not a bad idea to slap some characters in lab while you go back and round out some prior world grinds

[sick oak]

I get a new jar collectible but its a future cavern one

[polar geyser]

should i insta pop a crop reset to unlock overgrowth once i get to the reset zone?

[tulip wharf]

how do i get more trap exp?

[polar geyser]

nature traps 20h

[dreamy solar]

Yeah I’m keeping like 4 in there while I go back and knock out like unlocking island expeditions etc

[tulip wharf]

and there is some curse, or special thing i should be looking at in any skill/bubble, etc?

[dreamy solar]

The grinds I kinda didn’t do while pushing that I gotta go back and do now lol

[polar geyser]

that im not too sure of, theres bubbles that will buff critter efficiency etc but i havent looked into all of it a ton

[dreamy solar]

Does anyone know how long it takes to do let’s say… unlock the first few islands in expedition?

[polar geyser]

expedition? the sailing stuff?

[white lintel]

w2

[dreamy solar]

The fishing thing

[polar geyser]

ohhhh

well ive been going 2.5 months and i have 3 of the 6 islands

is the overgrowth worth waiting for or should i just pop em as i get em early

[honest cradle]

chat im not sure which I hate more

No lane stacking or everything dies on the enemy side of the summoning field

[red relic]

lane stacking much worse imo

losing my bloomies sucks

[true hamlet]

Lane stacking is the worst 😂

Takes so much rng and time

[honest cradle]

well finally hit 40 endless

[pliant fractal]

you are why i bothered to update them lol

[twin spire]

i died to little spider earlier today lol

3-25 i rolled 4 8 and 5

[white path]

Appreciate u

[atomic scroll]

i have a question, if the update comes out tomorrow, will we be unable to place eggshell and trasher pets in the fence yard then?

[twin spire]

Wth to this day i didnt get ANY of the arcade stamps

[white lintel]

how long have u been playing

[twin spire]

Dont remember exactly lol but its been 1 month+-

[white lintel]

yea idk why ur surprised

[honest cradle]

arcade stamps dont exist

They are a lie

[twin spire]

Jesus Christ i didnt do papua piggea full questline to this day

[atomic scroll]

they exist in the slab, just not registered since you didn't get them yet

[twin spire]

He probabily said that as a joke cuz they are crazy rare

[minor scroll]

Balljoepickle

[white lintel]

?

[twin spire]

Aint NO ONE beating me at the negligence competition

[pulsar girder]

🫡

[atomic scroll]

I'm asking this because eggshell pets randomly lay eggs to be collected in the incubator and 1 trasher pet gives +25 daily spice claim limit which will no longer be feasible when the next update releases in the next 13 hours

[cunning pasture]

With my newfound power of 6 battle slots, I figure its about time I take on the big wurm... what team tho, Im willing to spend 30 minutes in one battle, I looked on the spreadsheet and I couldnt find what I was looking for, If 6 party spice hunting is there, please help, and if not, just tell me a team... I can make it

[lilac plover]

!guide pets section

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[dreamy solar]

Gonna take a wild guess that I can’t candy or balloon lab xp

[minor scroll]

Correct

[twin spire]

nor the things that come after lol

[dreamy solar]

Eh shouldn’t take more than a few hours to get lab 5 anyway

[twin spire]

saved my baloons for so long and when i tried to use them they didnt work

[vapid storm]

Hello friends any idea why my ES gets about 500 statues an hour while my DK gets about 100? I move all relevant equipment/obols, theyre both lvl 370

[twin spire]

He got lucky

🤘

[vapid storm]

LMAO hope i get lucky more often then

[twin spire]

that's the spirit

[honest cradle]

aye gambit unlocked

[echo hill]

Is the egg breeding pet now broken tomorrow since its a foraging pet that needed to he in the fenceyard?

[twin spire]

gamble?

[echo hill]

Is it a statue in a blue bag rare slot or one on the main page of the mob drops?

[honest cradle]

The next hole unlock is 3 months if I dont get my vill xp higher

[true hamlet]

What level is your orb

[honest cradle]

no gambit, itsa hole feature

[white lintel]

SO CLOSE

[twin spire]

Boy i wonder how long the next upgrade will take

[true hamlet]

No time at all

[vapid storm]

Im eyeing the power statues mainly on bored beans map but in general Ive noticed a significant diff off 10 hours each testing

[true hamlet]

I'm concerned... 7 opals 5 caverns

[atomic scroll]

@echo hill i asked the same question a while ago before you do

[vapid storm]

156 on the talent page

[honest cradle]

I think leveling conjuror now is the way to go for a while

[white lintel]

thatll be an issue in DR and crystal spawn chance on your DK

[honest cradle]

25m/hour and 75m for a level

[true hamlet]

Oh you need to pump that to 250+ asap before any statue farming, not to mention crystal and dr

!maxtalents

[candid scarab]

Struggling to find out how to raise the level of your talent points to hit that next threshold? Trickzbunny and jiof made this fancy sheet that will let you know what you're missing and how to get it!

[atomic scroll]

and choco chip

[vapid storm]

1/88 for crystals, choco chip, 13.5 dr, but yeah I think its orb on top of list

Thanks homies

[true hamlet]

Orb always

[white lintel]

did you not have orb on?

[true hamlet]

156 talent

Not even placed half the time

[white lintel]

ah

[true hamlet]

Shadow had 210 orb, I had 290, w1 statues took me 6h, took shadow 20h

[white lintel]

took me 7 days

[minor scroll]

Is perm orb 300 talent levels

[true hamlet]

150.. might take days

[vapid storm]

3 days only a quarter Im taking this advice n tryna pump those talent max levels, unfortunately looks like im gonna be sitting for a while waiting on that sailing gain

[true hamlet]

156 means you probably haven't maxed salt lick and merit shop

Not to mention, no arctis link, no symbols of beyond etc.

[late cradle]

If you max mana PO box you can get it at like 270ish

Maybe a bit lower

[ember wing]

268

with max po

[late cradle]

Wasn't far off lol

[honest cradle]

Well first try got 4 minutes

Not sure what makes it more expesnive to summon, time or amount ive summoned

[late cradle]

Time

[vapid storm]

Merit yes, salt lick is at 6/10, if linking is divinity ive been blessed with a doot, no clue what symbols of beyond are. Love that the game has a decent wiki too, time for reading

[white lintel]

rare reading idleon player

[honest cradle]

OMG that makes me very happy

[late cradle]

You almost want to spam a bit early, fishing for bloomy while it's cheap, and build your summoning multi

[true hamlet]

Elite class talent

15th

[late cradle]

Don't do that on queens gambit though, youll kill yourself

[honest cradle]

Ye I got to about 1700% but they got me at 4 minutes

[vapid storm]

Freshish w5 player for more context. And ahhhh right right, can squeeze another plus 3 from SoB

[late cradle]

Your summoning doublers will make your next run much better

Spend em wisely. Especially at first

You can reset them at the lamp if you ever need to btw

[honest cradle]

Wait does this mean the summoning shop in w6?

[late cradle]

Yarp

[honest cradle]

wowo that is op

[late cradle]

If you have an AC, they have a talent to improve those to above just doubling

[honest cradle]

I mean

laundering upgrades and cheapeners first surely

[late cradle]

I dont know if there's a convenient tier list somewhere, but I'd probably spend 6 or 7 of those in Cyan for obvious reasons, but the red cost cheaper, your mana boosters in order of highest to lowest boost they currently offer, and the yellow spike upgrade are a solid start

[honest cradle]

those all sounds right to me ebh

[white lintel]

w5 pins hole guide

[true hamlet]

Heh funny you mentioned that

[strange prism]

whats this?

[true hamlet]

Arcade chance

[strange prism]

highest damage ive seen and it just needed to be terrible wp

[strange prism]

aaaah.. dam

[honest cradle]

well thats endless 50

Anyone feelling happy hour in an hour?

[cunning pasture]

I dont understand how to enterpret this... do I just create pets with those abilities and throw them in the ones I need? some mention being better or worse depending on where in the spice tree they are...

[white lintel]

labels exist

[fresh parrot]

beeg patch notes

[white lintel]

most people just look at this if you have them all unlocked

[cunning pasture]

yeah I know... so If I have borgor unlocked, which I do... I should use (in the row above) 1 forager and 3 badum... and in the row below, I use a borgor, a misama, a flashy, and an alchemist?

oh

thank you

[white lintel]

well borgar requires you to have a forager above it to get the 10x power bonus, so it depends on that which one you use

[cunning pasture]

I see

[twin spire]

Damn , blood berseker got rlly good numbers

[strange prism]

[strange fern]

How do I get lab levels?

[eternal goblet]

Hey everyone, recently got into w4, saw that the chip shop had chocolatey chip, is it even possible for a new w4 person 3 days in to get the resources needed for the chip?

[white lintel]

sit in lab

[strange fern]

Perfect, ty

[lilac plover]

upload character to lab

[lilac plover]

no

[white lintel]

not realistically

[lilac plover]

just wait till next rotation 6weeks later

[twin spire]

put them in the tube

[eternal goblet]

😢

[strange fern]

How do I do that

[twin spire]

If you got 130 coliseum tickets lying around

[twin spire]

click on the big computer thingy by the side of the tubes and then upload player

Did you find it?

[white lintel]

I dont think theyd have enough DR to get the ladles, nor have the diamond chef bubble

[twin spire]

they got 3 days to make it as high as they can

then spam colo 4 if they have the hypothetical tickets lol

I was saving my unlocks then my brain cogs spinned

I dont HAVE other tabs to save unlocks for

[white lintel]

[twin spire]

I got all unlocks , it doesnt give me any reward but it makes me happy

GOD

DAMN THAT'S OVERPRICED

[white lintel]

well yea, lustre adn diabolical are bad for a reason

[twin spire]

And i cant skip them because all armors after them need THEM to be crafted right?

[true hamlet]

no

[lilac plover]

skip to troll

[twin spire]

wanna hear me say them again?

[white lintel]

no?

[twin spire]

Their set rewards are good tho

[white lintel]

lustres is mid

[twin spire]

I can leave that to lategame

[white lintel]

diabolicals can be gotten when your refinery doesnt suck

[twin spire]

troll really doesnt need them huh

Guess i'll skip them until my acc is scuffed

[white lintel]

you literally just sit in Amarok armor unntil you make trol (which turns into kruk really fastbc its cheap)

[twin spire]

God 20 thousand starfire bars is annoying

[twin spire]

Kruk is lava's way of saying he's sorry

[true hamlet]

takes 1 candy

[twin spire]

for troll armor

[true hamlet]

troll is pretty cheap...

[white lintel]

not for new players

[twin spire]

10 million ores is not one candy

[white lintel]

it is

[lilac plover]

takes time to fix up refinery for neglecters

[twin spire]

you must be saying that from your pov brains for shits

[true hamlet]

sounds like 1 candy to me

[white lintel]

no, with the hole you get lots of forge cap

[true hamlet]

243x

[fresh parrot]

and alot of mining eff

[twin spire]

Oh yeah , my hole will take a while to get going lol

[fresh parrot]

like aloooooot of mining eff

[twin spire]

I dont have any xp multi for my villagers

almost ranking up yipeee

then the cycle restarts

[white lintel]

im really hoping that the auto refine changes mean easier salt collection for vials using omni procs

[fresh parrot]

same, once my refineries are fixed I'm never opening that cursed building again

[white lintel]

oh you dont stop ranking them up

[twin spire]

Someone got that infinite refinery chart in their sleeve?

[white lintel]

but you can stop for vials once you have a somewhat decent rank

!refinery

[candid scarab]

The refinery will produce salts on a cycle as long as you have the required materials in your chest when the timer hits 0. In order to increase the rank of a salt in the refinery, you have to let your power bar for the salt completely fill before refining.

To stay salt positive, follow this process. Make sure to grab the merit shop upgrades and always rank up Red and Green salts.

[twin spire]

i REALLY really REALLY need to take a day to farm w3 merits

Ignore the chest up there , i didnt have ram

[lilac plover]

just do it, the boss tasks should be ez for u

[twin spire]

Oh yeah i can do those

[true hamlet]

oh wow, WW putting in the work

[twin spire]

Just lemme unlock afk dust and i'll kill chizoar on 8 slots

[twin spire]

How many aberrations are out there tf

show a sc of your talent rq

i wanna see the numbers

[fresh parrot]

windwalker

[twin spire]

Yeah , dont you need to kill aberrations to get the talent going

if he's at 724x there must be a LOT of those

[fresh parrot]

talents give like 3(?) maybe 4× exp multi

big chunk is
justice
ww medallion
ww talent

[twin spire]

That's really nice wth

[pulsar girder]

that's also probably assuming >lv400 talents

[twin spire]

My windwalker is still a baby

[fresh parrot]

I mean 3-4× additive, aka 300-400% exp

[hoary bloom]

are there any ways to speed up refinery thingy

[twin spire]

oh chucks

[twin spire]

lab and thats it i think

and the squire talent

[pulsar girder]

and the divinity god Omniphau is functionally a x2.5 with variance

wow i did a great job cropping that

[twin spire]

What animal is omniphau btw?

[pulsar girder]

elephant

[true hamlet]

work on con mastery fr

[pulsar girder]

did i ask

[twin spire]

you could just download lightshot friend

[woeful karma]

^

[true hamlet]

it's cropped enough to guess the numbers

[twin spire]

A fun gamble

[woeful karma]

lab makes refinery 3x fsater
refinery throttle initiates a forced xx cycles (based on talent lv) whith a decent cooldown of a dayish

[twin spire]

And no one gets harmed

[pulsar girder]

and we're just both gonna pretend there were possible numbers there that weren't going to lead to you making a shitty comment

[twin spire]

refirnery throttle really loses value once my cycles are 2 minutes long lol

[woeful karma]

lv 185 is around 40ish forced cycles

[woeful karma]

yeah i know it doesnt really speed it up

[true hamlet]

ehh 1.4k buildings..... I'm guessing maybe 1-10b build rate?

[woeful karma]

if anything it helps early game with second tab salts

[twin spire]

I want that relic for library levels

[woeful karma]

same

[fresh parrot]

oh but specifically ww talent atleast give a decent multi/abom slayed

[twin spire]

Too bad it must be at island

[woeful karma]

(idk which one your talking about)

[twin spire]

gazillion 4

[true hamlet]

like 9 maybe

[twin spire]

Bullseye

Too bad im still at island 3 with terrible luck

[true hamlet]

hey hey, my construction is neglected too

[woeful karma]

holy shit +100 max talent level at highest version????

thats goated

[true hamlet]

I'm not some endgamer with 3.4k-3.5k buildings

[twin spire]

Yeah its kinda crazy it seems

All relics are crazy tbf

it just takes a crap ton of time

[woeful karma]

now is that W5 or technically not w5?

[pulsar girder]

yeah its insane. its really annoying tho the sovereign one like you're probably not gonna get the % chance above like 0.1% before you get it and it's gonna say 0.01% at first but be lower than that and be rounding up lol

[lilac plover]

sailing is w5

[pulsar girder]

75 is w5, final 25 is w6

[twin spire]

YEAH I WOULD LIKE 800% MORE SAMPLING BRO

[true hamlet]

artichance is rounded down

[woeful karma]

well at least the first 75 is not W6

[odd osprey]

this is gonna sound stupid but why is multitool stamp so gud? it makes very little impact on like mining efficiency

[woeful karma]

same
i dont have enough

[woeful karma]

its all around eff isnt it?

[odd osprey]

that's w5 baby

[true hamlet]

because... there are skills where you don't get a lot of eff

[lilac plover]

its all efficiency

[twin spire]

Your account is like , a house that only has the blueprint

[true hamlet]

like cooking, lab etc.

[pulsar girder]

i was under the impression when you see 0.01% that might be overstating it and that's just as low as it'll write

[twin spire]

but the blueprint was blessed by 3 pantheons of Gods

[odd osprey]

ah ok so it's good for like the w5/6 skills more ig?

[woeful karma]

[twin spire]

Cuz you must deal more dmg in a level 1 slot than my main pusher does

[true hamlet]

I don't blame you, rounding is very inconsistent

[odd osprey]

it's hard to understand what actually impacts what on the global w4/5/6 skills

[pulsar girder]

so it can say 0.00%?

[true hamlet]

theoretically

[twin spire]

I just need this to get my sailing going huh

[white lintel]

this is correct

[pulsar girder]

yeah lol

[twin spire]

Its 1 island away

[true hamlet]

[twin spire]

I'll start working on it

[odd osprey]

dont forget to upgrade ur boats

[true hamlet]

fuck I'm blind

[odd osprey]

and that you can scroll and buy more boats

[twin spire]

In the SAME island there's one thing to double divinity

[mighty bronze]

At what point should one start focusing on skilling on all skills? Or it js only on Maestro and the other chars focus specifically on each of their specialized skills?

[twin spire]

Im just saving 4k bars rq for the piggy

[odd osprey]

there's nothing wrong with illiteracy

[twin spire]

Then i'll go back to spending

Im at 4 boats i think

[odd osprey]

rift 21

[true hamlet]

there's everything wrong with illiteracy

[odd osprey]

sorry what did you say? can you send a voice message

[true hamlet]

shouldn't be 0.01% anyways if you aren't dodging all the artifact multi

[pulsar girder]

personally i only bothered getting like one guy to fishing lv30 to access Sailing Expeditions, and journeyman levels to get maestro, until i was like in world 6 tbh. like if you need something go for it but it's sooo fast later

[twin spire]

@woeful karma this one was made for you Lmao

[woeful karma]

whats wrong with Italy again?

[mighty bronze]

So once i reach that point, i need to push for W6 beforehand?

[woeful karma]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-woooo-yeah-baby-gif-24480925

[odd osprey]

yeah rift 21 will probably be after getting to w6

[true hamlet]

Now I remember why I can't leave the DK alone

[fresh parrot]

how.. how tf does the ww medallion work

[odd osprey]

w6 and then u can start playing the game

[odd osprey]

nah that's goated, clears 3x as fast

[fresh parrot]

wait nvm 2.7 multi I fogror

[true hamlet]

nah that's ass, all 3 chucked on the same platform

[twin spire]

how the. What-woah-what-what th-what-wo-wha-mama-wha-woa-mama-my-woah-what-woah-mama-what-woah-wait-mama-woah-what?

[odd osprey]

nah bro it's triple effective damage

[fresh parrot]

base multi, medallion multi now I just need sams medallion

[woeful karma]

i see 3 dudes spawned via DK and a bunch of goated W6 DR card dudes

[mighty bronze]

So i am sort of wasting my time skilling everything at a pace instead of pushing? 🤔

[odd osprey]

it's a game so whatever floats ur boat but yeah you skill a lot faster later

[true hamlet]

I'm liking this placement better

[fresh parrot]

lvl400 talents
max po box
vman enhancement talent for +20s

[woeful karma]

in the grand scheme
kinda sorta i na sense?

[woeful karma]

are those coins cards or drops?

[pulsar girder]

once you get later shops you get better upgrade stones and they make as big a difference as whatever gear you're grinding up for rn basically. among other things. like a +30% all afk gains multiplier from early w5. and meals that just increase all skill efficiency

[mighty bronze]

Alright thanks guys

[twin spire]

Amazinhg

[true hamlet]

it's not a multi 😂

[mighty bronze]

That’s broken

[true hamlet]

the only afk gain multis are from robe and AC

[pulsar girder]

yeah my bad that's additive

[true hamlet]

would've been nice to be multi

[woeful karma]

curse of Venezuela strikes again

[honest cradle]

does the more trash from trash island upgrade have a max level?

[pulsar girder]

excited to see these summoning quests tomorrow. him saying you need to be able to deal BILLIONS makes me hopeful i can maybe sweep through'em considering my stats are in the tens of millions

[twin spire]

another 10 billion percent in all boosts for lategame

[pulsar girder]

and like....doubling everything....yes please

[twin spire]

https://tenor.com/view/all-star-game-dunk-contest-aaron-gordon-dunk-nba-gif-14293224

[fresh parrot]

I hope the "boosted stats" are then shown with a coloured shade, kinda like how writhing grimorie worked

[fresh parrot]

if it doubles the 2 library bonuses, it'll be even easier to get lvl400

[pulsar girder]

i think its doubling these. not the rewards

[twin spire]

with nibble after nibble , the lil chick fills its belly

[woeful karma]

nice lmao

i wonder how masterclass thingys will be by the time i get to it

[twin spire]

2000 damage max and patience

[fresh parrot]

eugh

I guess it's still fine

[twin spire]

Cant wait for dk masterclass to double all buffs related to building

[fresh parrot]

easier infinite mana, and more atk

[pulsar girder]

doubling the rewards would be ridiculous for sure hahaha

[twin spire]

lavaflame would neeever do that

[woeful karma]

watch it do nothing realting to buildings

watch it be only W7 stuff

[honest cradle]

wut should I sample on vman chat

[twin spire]

All masterclasses buff things related to their previous skills tho

[pulsar girder]

seeing red scaling you twice as hard in any non-glass cannon fight. the cost crunchers being twice as number... all the essence gain ones doubling. it'll be good

[honest cradle]

doing a resample ruyn'

[lilac plover]

monster material

[pulsar girder]

probably gmush and then like 9 things you need for bubbles to reach atom/stamp stuff/vials

[woeful karma]

also why does DK only buff refinery with its fucking family bonus

[fresh parrot]

I mean most of the mc's buff their respective worlds skills + scale from their sub-class skill from 4 so far

[twin spire]

Nvm ! im talking smack

[woeful karma]

i thought it would get a talent related boost

[white lintel]

ww buffs stamps and atoms

[woeful karma]

one is W1 related and the other is W3(5) related

[twin spire]

YOU'RE TOO LATE , I PROVED MYSELF WRONG BEFORE YOU DID

[woeful karma]

neither fit under its class bonuses

[twin spire]

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-flash-gif-27280273

YOU'RE TOO LATE BEAR

[woeful karma]

doesnt stop one from making yourself more of a fool

[fresh parrot]

true, although the cost crusher I'm not sure if it has a hard cap, doubling it didn't double the value itself
mana/atk are the most helpful, considering everything except no lane/1hp can be steamrolled xd

[woeful karma]

lmao

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-messed-up-gif-9714963639675861025

[twin spire]

my objectives are far beyond my understanding

[woeful karma]

i thought it was Icebear not late bear

[twin spire]

Its mid bear for us

[woeful karma]

[woeful karma]

[white lintel]

im busy getting cucked by NSLB

[twin spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314426572580589593/1341168726019543061/aura_farming.gif

[woeful karma]

damn
rip

[twin spire]

Most terryfying ARG according to youtubers

[woeful karma]

that doesnt happen to me
i just take whatever it gives me
for nothing it gives me can i aquire with my own powers 99% of the time

tho more exhalted procs would be nice ...

thank fuckin christ for that
if only they could fix Vmans utter ass family bonus lmao

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THIS IS HUGE DCHAT HE ACTUALLY FUCKING FIXED IT LESS GOOOOOO

[pulsar girder]

i think they work like pokemon buff/debuffs where its like
1/(1+x)
where x is the cost crunch %, so like when you get to 100% you've halved the cost, when you get to 200% you've 1/3'd the cost, when you get to 300% you've 1/4'd the cost

[twin spire]

Lol i just bought 600 thousand orange slices

Cuz i mistook it for the monster drop for the vial

[woeful karma]

rip i need to replace all my traps now ig

also pog?
i think this is good?

[woeful karma]

Oof

[twin spire]

This is nice

[fresh parrot]

sad I'm only at 91%

[twin spire]

BRO I ROLLED 1 AND TWO IN THE VIALS I HATE TS

[pulsar girder]

but if that was 182% you'll be able to pump up!

[twin spire]

well. will try again tomorrow

[woeful karma]

o7

[twin spire]

One simply cannot win them all

[pulsar girder]

so i thiiiink this means i'm at like around 20% of original costs and if they were doubled i'll be around 10%. but also as soon as it kicks in i'll be buying a lot of upgrades in each, which will be twice as powerful as before too.... sounds good. hope i can get them

[woeful karma]

oh its not out yet rip

wait does this mean lava is going to stream tmro or?

[honest cradle]

anyone join for happy hour?

[woeful karma]

once i buy my shop stuff i am heading off for the night unfortunately otherwise i would

[pulsar girder]

even though its like two weeks further away than i thought it was i'm still gonna wait for gambit to do any more dungeon lol

[honest cradle]

I jsut got gambit today

[pulsar girder]

Nice I’m jealous

How many points immediately

[honest cradle]

35k ish

[white lintel]

probably

[atomic scroll]

yeah

[woeful karma]

thankfully i dont have anything tmro pog
heres to hopping i can get some drops or something

[pulsar girder]

I got wisdom today so hopefully I’ll join you there in 3 weeks

[warm token]

do i just click the cog button for like an hour and hope i get double cogs for the equinox dream

[woeful karma]

yep :D

hopfully your cog clicking is every tick
and not every 1.3 ticks like mine was :D

[white lintel]

to overnight plunders or to overnight AC

[lilac plover]

if its 1 tick it can be done in 15mins

[woeful karma]

overnight plunders sound cool
but overnight AC means more cool stuff from new class

[warm token]

i mean 20 mil should be good right

[white lintel]

overnight plunders mean more DR multi

[woeful karma]

Oooo
overnight plunders thennerver enoguh DR!
(imo)

[white lintel]

AC means prep for tomorrow

[lilac plover]

nice typos

[woeful karma]

hmm
good point
what if lava nerfs something

[fervent sierra]

Arctuous, do you think I could reach W5 in ww next week?

[warm token]

why no other players for this one?

[white lintel]

why would I know?

[warm token]

im sure its for a good reason im just curious

[white lintel]

huh?

[lilac plover]

making cogs

[woeful karma]

becasue of their inate abilities

[white lintel]

as in why DK only?

[woeful karma]

they get super buffed compared to others
plus their specced for construction in the first place

[white lintel]

DK talents give it super juiced con speed/xp

[woeful karma]

^

[white lintel]

in combination with stuff like carpenter bubble especially

[woeful karma]

my W4 goals tho

[warm token]

ah i love learning w3 mechanics in late w6

[woeful karma]

lmao
it be like that when you rush

[white lintel]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1353876926397157476

look this through

[pulsar girder]

How high do you have big p leveled

[white lintel]

3361

[warm token]

man we are just looking for the bare minimum arent we

[strange fern]

How do I light up the lab icons

[white lintel]

cant ask new players to make troll

[white lintel]

play connect the dots

[woeful karma]

:D

[warm token]

put people into the lab

[strange fern]

Hmm alr

[honest cradle]

Big xp for vills this run

[fervent sierra]

Whats your call me bob level?

[woeful karma]

it was goated set before vault

[woeful karma]

W6 goals

honestly Vman gonna be so goated im sure

[fresh parrot]

over 9000

[woeful karma]

under 9000
(151)

[fervent sierra]

Stauetastic

[fresh parrot]

bone marrow like damage multi per class/skill level

[woeful karma]

i thought it was statuerific

[warm token]

8 cooking clogs for troll shoes

[woeful karma]

which does or doesnt cap at 50% idr

[white lintel]

fyi it shadowcaps at 50%

[woeful karma]

damn yeah ithought so

[fervent sierra]

Prob should get more

[white lintel]

still worth doubling

[woeful karma]

still half is goated

[woeful karma]

oh good god that angle and tilt

[fervent sierra]

[woeful karma]

anywhosers
i must head out now
best of luck with the grind yall 🦾

[honest cradle]

ok timne to get this stupid gloves unlocked

[warm token]

if only trip cogs counted for equinox

[honest cradle]

ok nail vial done time to get back on boring brick

[fresh parrot]

weak, max pearler shell vial

[lilac plover]

slow roast wiz my goat

[honest cradle]

eventually

[somber pumice]

So I didn't know I had to follow a certain leveling up order and kinda messed it up, what do I do in this situation?

Second tab will take months but is fixable, but what do I do about the first one?

[lilac plover]

turn on autorefine for your orange blue pink void salt and follow this

once your power per cycle > the salt needed for the next salt then turn off autorefine for that salt

[mellow sigil]

How Can put more traps?

[warm token]

get better traps

[lilac plover]

make better traps

[warm token]

or theres a green bubble in alchemy

[somber pumice]

Produce a better tool in the anvil

[warm token]

three double cogs in a row lava has blessed me

[mellow sigil]

Yeah i know it but i cant get the poison froge at all

[lilac plover]

claim 20min traps, poison froge is just a shiny frog

its easier to get shiny by claiming 20min traps(assuming you claim whenever available)

[somber pumice]

Oh you have alchemy and piggybank to help you with it

[warm token]

im sorry what

[somber pumice]

And cards

[lilac plover]

100 bobjoepickle get to work

[warm token]

oh my god i read that completely wrong

i thought it was balljoepickle

[mellow sigil]

Anyways im trying to get the elite class but its hard to push

[warm token]

50 days blimey i have to wait for something in idleon

[fresh parrot]

should've bought them since day1

[somber pumice]

Ya dev does a cool game and be like "hey bro, take it easy there, it's unhealthy"

I don't want healthy, I want xp

[warm token]

36 currently

[fervent sierra]

Bonjourpickle

[warm token]

well time to finally clean up my construction

my build rate is gonna fall off a cliff for a little bit but thats fine

[lilac plover]

slow roast wiz carrying me through wave 130 rn

[warm token]

what if i only have one yin yang cog

[lilac plover]

put xp cogs in the zen cog place for now

replace them when u have the zen cogs

[warm token]

why put everyone into cogs if we only use one type? is it so that they just have something to do

[mellow sigil]

Is this food helping me?

[warm token]

yes

[mellow sigil]

What good does it makes?

[warm token]

it just increases the probability you get poison froge from the traps

[mellow sigil]

I knew it when i crafted it

[fresh parrot]

yep, if you put them in storage they don't earn exp

which is bad, cuz a few things scale with total skill lvl

[honest cradle]

Well no gloves yet

[warm token]

construction so cooked i put an up cog in the top left corner

[honest cradle]

Prob gonna take over night

[warm token]

whats the construction xp percent i should be looking for in cogs

[fervent sierra]

1 billion or sum idk

[warm token]

thanks for the helpful response man

[lilac plover]

depends construction level

[twin spire]

I dont think ppl just have an answer to that around man

aim for the tens of thousands

[warm token]

fair enough

[lilac plover]

no way slow wiz can carry me through 140 goblin

[fervent sierra]

20% probably

I assume youre low level

[twin spire]

Either be helpful or zip it dawg

[lilac plover]

20% per cog is reasonable

[twin spire]

tf answering wrong twice on purpose is insane

[warm token]

dawg that is the minimum 💀

[fervent sierra]

20% per cogs is good early, wtf you guys talking about

[lilac plover]

0 is the minimum

[twin spire]

Sorry i just hate undertale sans

[fervent sierra]

Understandable, Have a great day

[warm token]

is there like a gem guide i need to start grinding for yin cogs

[red relic]

just keep replacing lower amount exp cogs with higher ones as you get them. the other stats won't matter once your squire(s) start gaining levels

I got an 86% out of nowhere yesterday when i normally get 30-40s at my current level

[fervent sierra]

Griffy has a daily gem farm guide I think

[warm token]

does level matter with cogs i feel like it doesnt

[fervent sierra]

Yes

[honest cradle]

gems? just do boss grinds and daily dungeons

[warm token]

nvm

[fervent sierra]

The higher your level the better cogs you get

[honest cradle]

And killroy

[red relic]

Have you looked at the guide in !guide? It has a section for daily and weekly sources of gems.

[warm token]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[fresh parrot]

is there any way to check how much gold balls I'd need for lets say lvl70 to lvl100 for a bonus

[red relic]

i should join a guild if you can get free gems from the guildboxes

I believe both IE and IT show how many balls you need to max an arcade bonus from your current level

Arcade is under W2

[fresh parrot]

ofcourse it's those two ion use em

[quiet crane]

gm

[quiet crane]

including reductions?

[red relic]

No idea! I just looked at those sections for the first time myself

[quiet crane]

w5 doable ? :v

[final tide]

Got sovereign emperor from a card pack what the hell is a multi-kill

[red relic]

It's when your kills count for multiple kills

[final tide]

Is sovereign emperor worth 4-5 star cardifying or nah.

[mint quartz]

that changes how 50% of the questions are handled here

[red relic]

yeah probably very much worth it

[final tide]

How does it have a 120% chance to multi-kill💔

[mint quartz]

emperor cards op

[red relic]

So your kills would count as 2 kills with a 20% chance at a third

[final tide]

Ah

tfw when you buy the bundle for pheonix wings and hit it big with 2 emperor cards

[red relic]

tfw the gamba pays off

[river spruce]

F. This isnt worth is it?

[final tide]

anyways back to crying because i completed like 2/3rds of the journeyman quests on my warrior slot

[mint quartz]

not really

[true hamlet]

card pack 🤑

[red relic]

It's ranked B tier in the tierlist

[final tide]

Ipheonix wings can basically carry you to world 6 if you already have a solid build 4600 gems can get you a bunch of goodies, the card pack is the best one you can buy in the shop and has really good cards and the rest are just a bunch of late game stuff. Kinda depends on rng tbh. If you hit it big you basically win the game, anyways i shouldn’t be encouraging someone to gamble but i totally am

[lilac plover]

1.5x dmg cant carry someone to w6

[red relic]

pulling a sov emp card can help a lot tho!

[final tide]

You don’t know the secret strat where you use the coins bonus to bribe the bosses into giving you the shards without fighting them…