#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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i did w6 ones fairly soon and it was just like 1 sec fights
it took me 1-2 hour to beat the W6 territories
I donโt think you did them soon Elle
with that Nuke build
literally as soon as i unlocked them

idk, 10k pet powers are kinda weak or I just had rng issues
Then you shouldโve unlocked em sooner lmao
what nuke build
10k is weak as all hell
also uhh yea rattler at the front is surely a good idea
well, I killed it with 10k, sooo
it is fine, they are all unlocked now
all i did was
rattler monolith looter refiller defender refiller
granted pet power only matters on rattler/looter i think
40k rattler 58k looter
i think stronger looter is good but not sure
Whats a good amount of pet power?
10k
id rather delete myself than use 10k power pets
I cleared all territories with 10k pet power, so it's good 
what's the best alch bubble to get dmg fast?
how do you get diamand chef to the point were you can atom it i get like 10k spice at most every day you do you scale that up?
I couldn't hatch higher than that, Breeding level locked me
10 k is enough to do slow arena 200
NBLB
ah ok
breeding neglect moment
u do have egg rarity unlocked right
candy clicking quick slap 
NBLB and discounts
That's why most guides for early stuff made by lategamers are dogwater cus they are kinda disconnected from low levels reality
I checked breeding everyday 2-3 times, that's what I could do, that was my best
The ones with pacmanlike symbol they are last of w5 bubbles or sth
nah quick slap is better, so good the endgamers candy click it ๐
Still yearning for pre-nerf quickslap to return
I mean, I wanna see an endgamer make a new account and finish everything in 2 months, cause people think you can progress faster if you wait faster or something like that
QS is so good it's worth candying even after nerf 
Just get all bubbles to 10k and finish tutorial basically ye
QS glazing
boron click or candy?
ok yea monster mats are whatever
save your atoms for harder stuff
i saw the atom price for con xp bubble and it was disgustingly high
huh?
call me bob
its not high at all
hmmm, how hard is it to get stache mats
All of the prices are low tbh, the leap for atoms gain is pretty quick
Kill staches they pretty weak
thoughts on trying to kill this guy overnight?
if atom gain is so good that it makes boron more worth than yea sure
you should have enough atom gain once you hit w6 no?

I mean atoms should not be the problem if you Candy click
Hope for no crash
I mean.. surely I won't right?
i havent resampled but with harriep+lab i can get enough ye
but like i think i need to upgrade my atoms more
Then IS not your time for that
Try getting better samples
You can use the borons you can, but your Focus should be on getting higher prints for atoms
yea i need to do that
finishing summoning tutorial in 2 days does give u a boost of skill eff
U wont trust
you should be doing pretty frequent resamples early on 
later on it's just to try push helium
so it doesn't matter as much
there's obviously other things
Atom hoarder
I mean technically there is a sailing artifact for damage POW 10 atoms
is it even good arti
free bonuses is free bonuses
it's not even difficult to get all sov artifacts
so they're basically free account boosts
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CKMUz5j2IhabQyqVzDGUDb3BfAcefDSuTMUGq2Vyk5A/edit?usp=sharing this is the guide in case you want to have it. i will start working on it more often from now on
someone really taking this like a job
nah im lazy
me just having the urge to nerd a little to stop myself from going crazy staring at aboms
im working rn as i wait for lanterns ๐
and ofc i say that and this is the first thing i see in #achievement-pics

WHAT
?
how many did you had when u started
wtf
what is bro doing
it will probably take like 20 days though idk
mid
when 1T
surely by july
not sure what july, prob on 2031
dang can't blame you for having 2 atoms 
not wrong
Do you have harriep god?
Equip it as in the hole for 6x output
hopefully i didnt forget anything on resampling here, goharut/snehebatu on my pocket div, skilling food, etc etc
i lack the skilling speed star talent but fuck dungeons
more then I ever do anyways

you did event food?
also not forgetting booking skill talents
i got one event food ye
what are the "eternal energy" and "north winds" lab jewels? apparently they're in rotation soon but can't find any information on them
AC jewels
ah right thanks
they give bonus to Master Class resources
i suppose they will be extremely costy
as they're around the same area of w6 ones
and those are expensive alr
oh they even appear in rotation? inb4 w6 spice
yeah makes sense
tho you can get them free on tesseract
i guess? never seen them so
can't tell
yeah the eternal energy one is next week
some ppl did mention about jewel rotation being changed since AC update
two coming up

oh another choco chip neat
was using bones and finished to put db back to lanterns
got my skull of major talent maxed 
huge
@thorny zinc 
Which class is this
that's DB, his 15th talent
Oh ok
gfood bonus per apo
i love getting pristines
gotta get them spices then 
aren't they?
(same things for both germs)
Eh materials needed are not even uploaded
well well well
Oh it's on it
you dont need to buy them tho
might be, might not be
Yeah but AC and WW ones are way later than DB
yeah

real
totm coming in clutch for med farming 
Mb cause i can't see It on mobile it
oh
tbf i think i like it more than DB
more stuff to interact with than... log in, redeem afk bones, log out
i prefer AC
well if each jewels take the same things to buy as one of the 3 lab bling jewel, you could potentially buy 2
AC is kind of mid i don't like how map design creates weird difficulty spikes for progression
oh nvm they all need the same things based on IT 
the arcane mob requirements are the same across the whole world right? they should prob be adjusted per map, like worms 
worms is decent
same kill count yeah
just dmg check
for me the rng progression early on and the compass upgrades are frustrating systems to deal with
biggole is shit 
biggole is were you learn to perma skull platform rotations
yeah 
gotta play the game

Worked out that I needed a minimum of two skulls on the top platform, and ideally three on the bottom. Then just rotated as they expired.
ye
give me that stupid comb already
good morninggg people
morning jake
elo jakey mista
oh you've got quite a few nice ones though, especially that exalted bonus, helps with your alchemy ambitions ๐
i see everyone always just trying to max the bottom left one i forget the name, and theyve got like 100000 boxes in it etc, is it worth me just holding until that unlocks or should i pop some into other ones before
myriad should be last
ohhhhh i seeee
everything else first
myriad is last prio
myraid isn't bad, just really costly, it's a few free stats
okay, do all the others have a cap then and that one just is insane to get the end?
and 100000 are just myriad 
sadge
if it isn't the last box one max then idk why not
yep, free stats always nice
myriad ouch
the emp wings tho.
someone dropped 2 in 1 boss ๐
ww player
okay big big, at least that makes it a little less daunting, cause im still very early on with it all, but knowing i only really need 10400 for the most part is very nice to know the extra digit definitely makes it seem so much worse

says the guy who reached w4 in WW before afk
btw, correct me if im wrong, you dont actually want to take the mana post office on dk right since lower cooldown means orb stays up shorter?
shhh
hahah true
should I reset my opals and give them all to explorer if I have 70 or nah?
max everything on everyone tbh
depends if you t that breakpoint
if not, just max out
uh ,but its also more knight statues ,so its better to max it anyway
uh you could try ๐ get more opals if you can though, 100 shouldn't be too hard
with my pristine luck i think i will finish 150k lanterns before comb ๐
p2w mf or something idk
its uh lvl 300 orb for 150sec to match with the cooldown, so mana box will reduce 15 seconds off the orb uptime (?)
this is going to cause the flies to build a nest in my dusty wallet ๐ 
event + emperor set
jellypick and emp set prob
aethermooons saved ?;d
is all 20 levels actually possible to get 
What to prisma
yeah but not worth it yet

warrior
yes, people got it way before afk WW
N then
i alr got 60 ,but probably gonna wait for the jewel (hard work tho)
mage
Ok
yeah I guess, it's additive so idk how I feel about it ๐
ski, rhanks
Nuuu, that's just smol % for being that far ๐
out of every class, WW additive dust is the biggest ouch
i dont mind getting additive tachions atm tho
another reason to not play that shitty class
Jiof did u get jackpot in this event?
yeah I mean, groot had like 4kx dust multi a few months ago
yeah I went to pity using 5400 gems
groot is groot tho
ando and vaj had it too ๐คทโโ๏ธ
Das a lot of gem
I got them all within the timeframe of the event
Got 2 whole jackpot with no pity but no chest
ill trade you nametag for chest 
Oh right I need go get bleach for 4th cauldron
Did the summer event end ?
I wish I could
got this fucker just sitting here now
i feel that
rey... 
morning doveeee
event gonee uhhh
sup jake
k seems like I won't crash if I do the worm abom overnight if I unequip a few talents
How far can one elephanto go?
sup dove
sup kash 
Ya?
reminded me I should claim my 50 coolers and get dissapointed again
am jealous das all QwQ
500% happy since armor smithy opened
Got it with 1 skull too
woah you're f2p :0 I didn know
congrast!
3 noobs in the same spot @sleek pollen @mossy anvil
always has been xD
gonna try this exact spot, last day anyways fuck it
Gl
prediction: 2 fish
I wouldve bought 5 try too if the event didnt already end
surely I'll have enough lanterns by mid-autumn festival
jiof i let you down
what is the max level you can get for cooking meals?
110
Depends on what cap u have
im a fraud...

he is one of us now
eh, I'll let you off if you have >25 DR
wahh.. event gone I missed one try
21.86 atm, butttt thats more stuff im trying to work on today 
ggs

Gg fr
snipping my char out of their afk claim 
oh well I hit 50ร dr tmr
Huge
50? ๐จ
silence, I've been playing for half a year
I've been playing for half a year 
Same
ive been playing 
how much dr now?
How come Im the noobest then D:
I've only been doing dailies so it's still 115x
hmm, not that bad with rucksack
cooking
I can get to last stand 47, surely I can get bravery multi right? 
you can prob catch up with me 
its past 48 tho xd
nah I'm running out of sources already, I'm too nub
I mean, just need to hit a last sword
yeah yeah "nub"
gotta wait till I have bovinae hoarding so I have 1T bones/hr
I get to like 55 and have only gotten bravery multi once 
my next dr source will be the multi dr pristine
man wtf
nah just give me 1 business year
1 day less than me
I created account 7 months ago tho, I finally made my boxing gloves for scripticus this year since I learnt how to read
the fact that he has almost the same dr as me its crazy. thats why i consider jiof best f2p player
someone hasn't seen Johs' DR
the duck or the other one?๐ญ
the other one
oh
the guy pushing 200 statues without autoloot
๐
200-300
crazy
still gotta find a day to sit my ass down and get 100k hampters for cakes
its pearls xd
I got 10x more shells than ghampters
eh, just lazy tbh, calculated that it would only take 7-8h
the fact that shadow bought many packs ,and still hardtrying and still worser
Take that back summoning is goated >: (
I'm going to spend like 1-2 days of moons trying to pump this ig, I'll never get 5/5 bows if I don't push TotM
i meant statue farming in w6
but only 1.7B dust/hr
I've been looking for the spreadsheet for spice setups but I can't find it,can one of yall show me the spreadsheet please?
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u need better stone chances if u dont have 2,5k now for 5/5
Thx
Damn jiof how do u have no autoloot but still be so far in to mc prestige
i should prob push more here too. but after i finish lanterns
better stone chances and more totm
totm is mostly for medallions tho
ngl, most of my stones come from TotM ๐
WW is so horrible to active for prolonged periods
well ,dont forget about the trapped fishes abo upgrade too
but ,, it aint givin that much
yeah I pushed that to 50
totm itself is 10x increase
it's not too bad I think, could help if I tried pushing 1 more into luck factor
I'd probably not screw around with this too much until I enter w5 tho
uh, I need my medallion and abom xp
also atoms 
bark bark bark its all i hear
yea later on you don't even know if save for hellium or upgrade bell
So do you want to be called dog or what
the fact that i dont even talk with you and still talk about me its so sad
get some help please
why u still being aggro lol
Dang shadow you should really go breath some fresh air 
because you are just being idiot
no im tired of this shit
i think i can't help you with your issues
your mood went from 0 to 100 and back to 0 in 2 seconds
ok jiof
not like he already didn't for some reason
dudes got mad when i said prismas from only event were kinda unfair ,lol
some ppl just are funny
you need some help too Kashya 
why we complaining about mobile games being p2w in 2025
well, all i said it was the thing about prismas ,and the fact they aren't only from event now ;p
i blocked her when prisma came out and she is still talking about me in this chat non stop LMAO and im the one that needs help
you do mention shadow for no reason just to provoke him, its unnecesary too
ok, the court is adjourned ๐จ back home you 2 go
happens ,when he flexes stuff xD
LMAO
has the fight ceased 
i might do w2 statue farming today jiof
yea but why? then u get mad when he responds to u, its nonsensical and childish
oh.... nice, I do love that alchemy xp statue dearly
hush boyz, the court is adjourned ๐จ๐จ๐จ๐จ
already heard others saying it's annoying that he posts same smol progress things over and over :d
oh trueee i stopped doing statues a bit because of the lack of dr, but now that im up to 20x i feel like i can somewhat efficiently get at least like w2-3 ones maybe done etc
anything from bugnet and below i havent onyx'ed yet
skip w3, do w2 and 4
okay bet bet
candy w3 later, not worth it for sanity sake

wonder if 50ร dr is enough to onyx w6 statues overnight 
it's pretty easy to candy when you have divine scarf + pendant doubler
uh, no
unless you have like 440 talents and 1 in 20 crystal, then maybe
yeah ur arguments just dont make sense, its a game for god sakes, everyone posts progress lmao
I hab 10k of each already
At what point is candying it worth it?
well they don't but go through all messages if you wanna ,see who called anyone an idiot first
Righ, onyx.. I should go farm w2 statue
I don't have doublers, so definitely not the crystal chance
400 talents doe
for you to guage tbh, I'd say don't candy before you get divine scarft + pendant doubler
other than that, you decide whether the amount of candy you need to use is worthwhile
just because francis decides that 33k candy hours is good for cakes doesn't mean I agree totally not because I'm broke
stop trying to explain anything i made my decision i will leave the server as im tired. thx anyway
leaving for the 8438438 time ,comes back tomorrow
Whuh
go home ๐ the hearing is over
halloe rey
Hellow
Its so weird seeing the nametag in my chest when my dk is already using it
meanie, stop flexing
Make me think I still havent equip it
you can shove it on ES/WW
Sorry
Next pendant doubler is in 142 days 
I like to keep it in storage for convenience
I mean, my point still stands, if you think it's fine then go for it
candying statues I mean
Sometime I forget to store and need to sit thru the 30s mobile loading time
I'd say not worth waiting around, better things you could be doing
they just aren't good statues
purely there for bonus onyx deposit
gains are gains
at least you're resampling, which is great especially early on
resampling = already better then 90% of idleon population
Resampling..... 
i just got my multiore to 600% thats why lmao
I mean, you'd probably get huge gains pretty quick early on without doing anything, even if you sampled on the wrong class ๐
its an extra 3 atoms an hour
huge
i want to get a couple more easy things to get before doing resampling again even though i just do lazy ones
cause these are lacking quite a bit atm
I resampled like a month before bubble doublers and I don't feel like resampling again
yeah with the gilded pack i got another like 50 prisma's so ive nearly done all of s tier but i can ac grind the other one i think
Resample next year 
just purple to go on that, need 5 more, and then ideally id want to grind out the construct one
does worship do anything for samples?
like the totalizer buffs
dang I'm going to eat you up
so many prismas
now i just need toi get my damn chopping bubble into clickable territory to get 600% there
frick
expand forge capacity through hole, then do archer claims
Go frog
should be done in 2-3 claims max
so is this alchemy stuff like NECESSARY to push or nah ?
not necessary but can help, but its a grindable masterclass thing
i just dont have nearly enough resources to make it useful
weeeee 4% more 
i equipped a couple of the big bubbles and leveled up a few of the others
but its only like 1% boosts
you won't for a while, just focus on shaccuracy/fmj and focus alchemey later once you have a decent bubonic conjurur
1 hour
needa get those bloaches up first for the shaquaracy
How come people treat it like all or nothing canโt you resample one character at a time?
I left the game for like 3 months I left at at the beginning of w3 anything i should keep in mind to do
imma work on it tho ill get some of the fishing armour from unlocks
2 hours
gold relic artifact
hi guys
O I donโt think I have that yet ty btw
hihihi
sorry for low res, essentially, it gives you a little bit of output multi per day you don't resample (I think up to 9x at 160 days), so it's all or none
ok bye guys
hiiii 
Does the mole pet bonus reset everytime you sample too?
16 hours
Thatโs good
use 1h candies btw

is this actually w3-w4 theres no way i am that trash
1hr would only get me like 150 || gs bars || per slot
I just unlocked automation arm and turned on the forge bar replace and burned 4 green stacks on accident 
huh it's a zoo out here
i man im in w6 but my account is basically w4
your forge cap is awful though, did you level beeg beeg forge in hole?
it's a big waste of candy if you don't
i dont think i have the kph
how is it basically w4 you smelt like 1000000x more bars than me
for more tbh
what's your kph
not even an exaggeration aswell

he's not smelting that many tbh
Did you buy all the coin upgrades in forge?
just leveled it 2 times
ah, seems odd your cap is still so low
ive leveled up the upgrades a bit but not all the way
Do frog
where's your multikill prayer?
well it was 400k at 3x cap
now its 27x
ah ok should be better then
4 million per slot
ah much better, how's the per candy rates?
i struggle to get multikill teirs enough i dont need added heaalth aswell
multikill prayer lowers defense and accuracy not increase monster hp
its a free slot in
Sand castle still best for w2 statue yea?
tyson or sandy pots
oops imma bit retarted
Well damn
tyson best for raw statue rates, but sandy pots if you want glass shards too
wait is that stamp not even exalted yet?
max that out
free mkpt
my territory fight is actually going at 0.2fps
takes 5 seconds for 1 mono second to pass

+40k kill per hour
What is a good kph for skydoggies?
how how to get all these damn bars in my storage
I pushed leeks to sammys with 16m kph ๐
Damn '-'
just me being lazy to push tho
ore bag + spam click to inventory
you'd be fine with 3-5m I suppose?
gotta fix the deposite button fr
3x24h a day = 72m kills per day
I still have a long way to go
i have extreme leek spirit soft lokc
this makes me happy i want this constantly 
why are u at leek with that kph
ive been pushing since january
ribbon cauliflower if you haven't
are you a special player like 10 vmans or just a neglector
cauliflower is like top 5 meals imo
What damage did u have tho?
well, I got to the end of w6 in 2 months pre vault ๐คทโโ๏ธ and even then I was taking my own sweet time
need too 100x my dmg
I think like 1Q damage tops
HOW
some neglector stats
I feel like Im just too slow
lower damage than my wraith mode DB 
it's ok to take your time
i have no idea where to get them i saw an account review the mf had double my stats but worse alchemy
i dont think i have cauliflower yet ngl, my breeding is hardddd sucking
wtf does that armour/weapons actually hold up all the way to level 500 or did you just not care to upgrade
oh...... no........ push that ASAP, like top 5 things you need to do
it's huge for every active grind
i have some shittier armor on my db but way better stats
db gravestone snapshot etc.
main stat and movespeed seems really low, sailing has alot of big total dmg% boosts, power of tri scales off main stat alot
hey... I can have higher stats with a naked db ๐
lmao i got stuck at this tier and was to lazy to go back and fix it
its about the skillings, not the armor yeah
normal speed if you don't have the onyx
yeahhhh ive been doing my best with it, i think i got the build that bean recommended my last night, gonna try for 5th slot and maybe 6th slot once my arena cooldowns off
oh he doesnt have onyx yet 
i can upgarde all the way to the lustre bow 1 sec
cause the thing is i have dchef bubbled so i have like all my meals unlocked at min 35+ but only like half unlocked
ah if you can do it soon, then lay off the statue grind for a bit
you can send your toolbox, could point you in the right direction to get damage
w4 skills always underrated 
idk how much power ill be needing but i think i picked up all the ones id need to maybe push 5th and 6th slot, but 6 hours til next entry 
I mean, you managed to hit 18k on the stick... you only need 15-20k for all territories
W4 skill is all just timegate
im nearing 110 on my first meal with dchef prisma, my account is 1.5months old
gonna be running rattler wode goblin nutto for 5th slot, then figure out a 5 slot team to get 6th slot on full auto cause the monolithic and stuff is too much brain attention lmao
yeahhhh i used to have a 20k carrot and then scrapped him by mistake and never recovered 
fuck this, my next prisma will go on dchef instead of multoranage
That just confirm my acc growth is just too slow
cooking is just too good to hold off
I mean, higher bone rates, more summoning xp, crop evo, gfood bonus 
you can count me as a 3 month account to be fair, if you take away all the progress i made with gem shop bonuses
new weapon did jack shit for dmg
I'm tempted as well but I'm trying to save prisma bubbles
i feel that, i didnt realise like how big of a buff it is, even though its limited until you max meals its yeah
i guess 2.3billion not terrible
Is 10k power statues per 24h of active Dk good or should i get better drop rate then farm for the rest of my onyx characters?
My acc is 5-6 months old and Im still at 60 meal cap
yeah I've been kinda screwed up with event rng though, so I've made a few drastic decisions
like I chose to do carpenter (and probably dchef next) over bubble 17s. atm I only have larry, carpenter and 3 bubble 2s
slacking smh
my account is 4 years oild and i cant even get to level 60
probably forgot a few cooking speed multipliers along the way
im at 37k 
Maybe just forgot a big ass bonus that could push my acc to mid game level
also thanks, forgot to close game lol
hiiiii nejo
you back from your poe grind or still going?
is there any blood berserker build?
are you not getting server problems 
!talents
Having issues understanding how to best use your talents? This guide should be able to break things down. Use the tabs at the top to navigate to whichever class you're currently struggling with and it should become much less overwhelming.
nope, they ended like week ago
servers are still cooked in my region ๐ญ
perfect
i did mine around there, just make sure you have optimised everything u can with books and mkpt
well shit
50x difference in print is funny
This prayer good?
situational, the damage penalty might make you not hit a damage tier for multikill
But if I hit it its good?
equip it and check the difference in afk info i guess
if im not wrong it is also additive to these set of talents, so it probably wont make much difference too
dont laugh ๐ญ
i should get everything booked up to be fair
i just clicked a few books then let my ww afk in the background the past day
does the arena spirit really mean unlimited tries at the pet battle with waves in world 4?
so considering the new jewel rotation has pushed back most of these absurdly does it seem worth it to use gems on jewels with these remaining
Sapphire - Rhinestone
Emerald - Rhinestone, Pyramite
Black Diamond - Rhinestone, Ulthurite
for the time period of that talent yea
it only prevents attempt usage btw
any idea what I could do cuz it's not working ;(
Any tips for sampling percent. Still need 20 or so percent to get 90 without supersampler prayer
you need to use it before ur daily attempt
Sapphire is a trim slot, Emerald is a large amount of cook speed presumably and a lot of incubation time reduction, and black diamond I mainly want the meal bonus one, the Black Diamond Ulthurite I imagine isn't super relevant (damage on greenstacks)
https://idleoninsight.com/?search=sample size
see what bonuses you are lacking
Search every bonus in Idleon!
Anyone wanna summon king doot?
black diamond and sapphire rhinestone are huge
yea both of them are the primary wants, and the only one I don't really care for is the black diamond for damage
so probably decent point to use gems, I just kind of hope the AC ones aren't in the pool cause I can get those from AC in time
my friend said he had all the jewels pre-AC and the gem upgrade was unpurchaseable for him post-AC so i don't think they're in there
ah I see, good to know
let me check their rotation real quick
the jewels for trimmed slots are huge too, they actually work unlike the event trimmed slot
they were within a month, AC pushed them back like 100+ days I think
well sapphire rhinestone is in 37 days but of the ones I'm missing I think that's the earliest
7 august for sapphire rhinestone
4 sep for black diamond rhinestone
13 nov for emerald rhinestone
11 dec for black ulthurite
emerald pyrmaite is nowhere to be seen in the next 50 weeks 
In other words, just gem shop, got it
Hello , what are all mods which i can increase refinery cycle speed?
Umm , ok i will search , ty
yea wiki has it listed as 471d
that one is the most tragic it was actually 3 days away
notably doesn't include Omniphau on the list and he's huge
and then AC release put it over a year away
okkay tyy so much
technically omni is refinery hours, and not speed per cycle
๐ค โ๏ธ
yeah its rough
i really hope he changes this rotation system
yea I both wish it was sped up a bit (every 3/4 days) and also that laboratory bling just ALWAYS had a second jewel
doing such would effectively double the base rotation speed and make laboratory bling double it again so people don't have to wait literaly years for a jewel to come back
or just make a jade emporium upgrade to let us buy any 1 jewel of our choosing every week, we already have hole to serve as a timegate
yea that would work aswell
me when gems are easy to grind
just via giants alone, you can get a free one every other week
tons of other shit to buy with gems tho
and jewels is one of the higher prio ones
@true hamlet did you max/super the ww dust arcade bonus?
until you get the main ones anyways
There is jewel rotation list?
Dust yes
the wiki also shows the AC AC jewel instead of the WW AC jewel, so very likely something weird
sure yeah, just more so the point that the system is just outdated now and not player-friendly
Wasn't this week's rotation also supposed to be different?
ah gotcha, ty
ye its already updated on IT with the new rotations
it was also showing as DB AC jewel before yea
or if you mean the current one, yes AC jewels completely changed the entire rotation shuffling jewels around severely
I'm not certain why it affected it in the first place given it doesn't really make sense for them to be there in the first place, but we'll see on this next update of the shop
No card doubler in sight
yea both card doublers are next year at earliest I think
Nya, u also dont have card doubler ye?
oh thought they were both next year guess I misrembered
not getting good crystal farm until 12th feb...
am not gambling on chips, I'm not that rich
Lets both buy 1 each from shop
yea you are gonna get the drop rate one 
how much gems is one 
I'll do one if its under 500
yea its 385
time to gamble
385
good luck 
May the luck be with u
garbage I think
10% defence
Nt
pain
385 gems wasted, that could've been an airhorn
I got acc
the only black chips are the card doublers in case you want a quick visual reference for it
killroy bigger w ,u get balls in return
yeah exactly xd
Time to double down
last time we got 2 lays potato chips, it can't be worse than that
2 lays? too much, 1 lays and 99 units of air
having 0 gems is just... wow
I store in my chest
Otherwise I just know I will spend alluvit on either chip or w6 pack
I have self restrain
also known as, forgetful memory
I could not answer if you asked how many gems I have 3hrs later
It gave 3 chip I already have
oh yeah what's the jewel cost
yea, chip gamba you could just get the like movespeed chip 10x in a row
why can't pristine charm in gemshop be 3 gems :( inflation
450 for the first jewel
you don't have all? sneaking neglecter
oh not tooo bad tbh
I check pretty often qwq I have like 9(?) or maybe 8
Damn I dont even have enough gem to quadruple down
it takes time to get meteors rollin xd
you've been playing for half a year and still not done 
yeah, im waiting for the next few rotations to bring out the shit jewels before i start buying it weekly
Hey >: (
I'm at 21/23 currently, I think I started near the start of the year
if your sneaking inventory fills up, then you haven't checked enough ๐คทโโ๏ธ
heyyy a breakpoint
I started sneaking like 2 weeks ago qwq I was pretty much the typical rushed noob, sorry
i have zero pristine charms
last two aren't super important but wanna clear em out anyways (Sparkle Log and Sour Wowzer)
eh ngl 14+ gloves took longer, meteror took like 8hrs
damage is always welcome tbh
i want that dr multi and village xp multi charms fr 
yea, I mainly want the log of the two
so... you have the setup but you don't have all the pristines 
yes.. qwq
does your sneaking inventory fill up
whast the setup, golden q mark and then all meteors? and go back to the lobby?
sometimes, usually it's only overnight
I check way too often for it to fill up
not checking enough if it fills when active
q mark, scroll, beads, star
q mark
2ร metero + gold gloves
m0 f12
some starrite and mossainite helps too
star useful?
wat it do
I think the higher the mastery the better but idk how the roll math is done
the chance is the same ,but it works only on the "charms" the floor with black belts is all charms
It twinkles 
yea as far as I've heard it's just 1/1k no matter what, F12 just has an absurd charm to other ratio is the only notable difference from other stuff
dw you can't delete pristines xd
and yea can confirm that, I have tried
NOOOOO I CAN'T DELETE MT FIRST PRESTINEEEE!!! 
RiP (rest in pristines)
I'm thinking that depending on how the modifier is calculated, raising max level can help you increase time between claims
Lmao
if your gold star gemstone is high enough ,question mark is the goat
Buffs scroll too
locked button for golden charms when
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i dont wanna accidentally delete 3k+ level of golden charms
golden belts have nothing to it
from what I understand a random float between 0 to 1 is generated and squared then used as multiplier against your max to generate the charm level so shifts from higher max should be fairly small as it'd basically just be dealing with rounding
i ahd grinded my way up to sandcastle needing to 3-cycle the crystal charge, obviously immediately oneshot it with the crystal generating 10 guys per charge instead of 9 now, curious how bad pincermins wil be for me
shouldn't be too bad if you have damage
with 10 per cycle pincer is okay
might take a few cycles ig
w3 be acc stop
did it on 3s tent so definitely not that bad
yeah i just mention it because day one people who had 10/cycle were talking about it as a wall
wow yeah i can see why this was the one lol
Not hitting 16+ with that one.. 
Rip
ES or DK for rift tears?
ES
Thankyou, just hit 52 and starting to struggle a bit
Is there really nothing in between for T1 bones?
Like aren't stiltmoles a good map?
stilt is prob better
yooo
active always better then random placement maps imo
Is there a prayer tier guide somewhere? I feel like i should use it more often, but i don't
Always equip skilled dimwit and royal sampler
nono I mean maps where you can place graveyard efficiently are better then random placement maps like suggma
Ahh I see
I think T1 bones are like that one bone without a good spot
is there an easier way to do trapping or is it just torture
Trapper drone from construction
what aspect do you mean
those are like the only one to care about?
Let's you claim and instantly replace from w3 town
oh what which row is that on
No, but those are very important for samples/skilling
top row slot 7
Top
ah slot 7 tho thats nuts
How much does cannoli help in td?
looks like i gotta do that tower defense shit i have only unlocked the first 2
by the % it says it helps by, what do you mean
I meant like how important is it for td
mine's a 246% boost rn. very
Also beast master's skill (eagle eye) does the same thing as trapper drone
why does my "best wave" on tower defense not seem to update properly
You claim them all and instantly place new ones with it
do you need to like not forfeit or smth, when im gonna lose i just ff
Did you forfeit?
only counts wave 10 boss waves and only if you win
oh yeah never ff
it is the best wave you have reached while clearing it
Ah ok, thank you. Just got it to ~500% because of diamond chef prisma and now I'll try doing the 121 td wave dream
ah so i just gotta let the tower die ?
Yes
got it ty
damn 500%? what kind of ribbon you got there
And you need to kill all enemies currently alive for it to register as wave cleared, even if your next wave started
in the case you clear the 40 boss and skip to 50 and die I'm pretty sure your best wave will be 40, never checked how forfeiting worked
Hehe tier 10 ribbon with lvl 100 cannoli and 106 endless
how do i place the traps within the eagle eye skill ?
you put a tier 10 ribbon on and THEN asked if it was good? lmao
My cannoli is bad
Yep
idk how powerful my runs will be now
eagle eye I think only claims and auto-replaces I don't think it allows placement
Yeah you can't place with eagle eye
ahh so i gotta place them the first time and then i can use it to replenish it ?
i did a few TDs yesterday (w2, tree, w3) and got 150/160 on'em
yea
That is good enough wdym?
Lvl 110 and tier 10 ribbon. How far are you in endless
better than how i was doing it before anyways
You manually place all traps and then collect with eagle eye which automatically places new ones
Oh wow nice. What levels are your towers?
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mid 60s
thats huge i gotta start reading more stuff instead of just leveling it all
You're much better in cooking compared to me. So try getting higher levels on summoning
show stats maybe I can help
Nice. I'll try td out then. Maybe I'll complete the dream finally
yeah idk if i'm strong enough for the w5 one yet but the first four are chill
I was stuck on a "just 1 hp" endless, but managed to clear it now so guess I'll progress a bit
Whatโs a good setup for fighting in breeding? I just unlocked wode board
Ah nice. After a point, health doesn't matter much
Rattler, looter,defender, refiller, monolith, refiller
what did you not get by "just unlocked wode board"
the pins has a google doc with pet teams for the whole way up
You probably don't have some of these so just continue breeding and unlocking new ones
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
Yeah, but not being able to stack seeing red you get stuck on lack of damage
yeah hit Pets in that google doc and its all there
I mean they asked for a good setup. Unlocking wode board doesn't mean you cant unlock other pets from other worlds
carrot, wode board, fleeter should be good to get 4th slot unlocked if you dont have that
it also means they dont have 6 pet slots
Definitely
nor 5
reminds me of when i was in w2 and asked what i shoudl focus on next and someone earnestly told me to get this bubble to 300%
otherwise when people ask whats best from now on ill just say peapod, peapod, looter, looter, trasher, refiller
as that is the best and fastest to wave 200....at the cost of needing every pet unlocked
peapod being the only reason for that
Hmmm
moving the gang back to bravery..... we're going home
Btw are these mult or additive?
additive sadly
Ah okay
tho early on even a small bonus to one is massive to the other
but the "let the bar fill up fully" one is multi i believe
yeah
The what?
That increases mana regen?
gives a 15% mana regen bonus
its huge lmao
no one knows
its part of whats scaling you when you sac hp for 10s charging seeing red up
do post office box upgrades reset? mine seem to have
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was also very funny doing that sussy gene quest for 2500 max mana
Okay this is rip
oh nvm i think its just per character
its per indeed
I'm not clearing that most likely
whats the secret to the snowman worship level? cant seem to get past 20
oof yeah
Doing wave 41 with very low-level towers. Boulder 15, Party 4, Kraken 1. I also have the worship points bonus from salt lick at level 5, but this strategy works even without it.
00:00 Wave 1-10
02:50 Wave 11-20
07:50 Wave 21-30
12:40 Wave 31-40
16:15 Wave 41
17:28 Tower Levels
Was there a change where you can't do 2 min claims on Equinox rams anymore?
fuck glass cannon
ages ago
I got two jewel bloomies right of the start and still can't
Lol well I was gone 15 months, so thanks ๐
glass cannon is gating my endless too 
eyyy
Is there even a feasible way to do equinox rams then? Or just ignore those now
1hp right
bloomies don't matter, sparkies do
yep so you usually need 3ร jeweled sparkies
We think we hitting 10k for the AC jewel next rotation? :P
10k :clueless:
I'm still curious if the jewel will even be there or if it'll be something else
at least it's not at 14:53
kind of surprised aethermoons weren't changed to 1 hour upon the afk release
Now for my Bubbo, when it says players to the left of him get bonus xp, is that in terms of where my character are in the mainframe or on log in screen?
mainframe
I just realized I don't even have 5k hours on wisdom
He'd have to make it a new item
does that stack if i have 2 bubbos?
Some people might still have the 2h ones that they bought and it'd be fucked to change them to 1h
Not worth, it's a very small boost in the start but it will be a regret later on
due to the limited supply he could just double the quantity of ones players had and changed them to 1H
i just wish i could use the whole stack instead of one at a time
even if both my bubbos are in lab atm?
though I have no idea if he has the tools to do a serverwide adjustment of that nature
You'll regret later tbh
do you already have two bubos
I hope not ๐ญ
phrased it like they do
its only for chip slots right now, plus all my characters are in the lab always through divinity
If you've reached that point then it really isn't worth to have a second bubo
Just equip some lab scrubs and do your stamps
