midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[thorny zinc]

i did some 300 bean trades tho so now its a bit faster

[true hamlet]

spinkler is whale stuff fr

should buy w6 card packs

[exotic swallow]

bro

[thorny zinc]

i would say farming plots are way better

[wispy pecan]

So sample ?

[true hamlet]

🤷‍♂️ let mista shadow choose

[wispy pecan]

Ok so farming plot it is

[thorny zinc]

golden sprinkler is not a must tbh

[silver nimbus]

Mine's not though

[thorny zinc]

but those farming plots are crazy good

[true hamlet]

level rerun

[thorny zinc]

you can prob get better farming than me with those

[true hamlet]

shush, you'd have said the same

[thorny zinc]

wrong w1 cards are better

[true hamlet]

I have less plots than you 😂

[quiet crane]

why do u not have statue maxed 💔

[wispy pecan]

Thankyou for the advice sensei shadow

[thorny zinc]

yeah as i said not good at farming its a confusing skill for me

[wispy pecan]

Consider the purchase done

[true hamlet]

yeah as i said you had to fly to warsaw, poland

[thorny zinc]

😭

[silver nimbus]

Well i though thats the best move for me rn

[wispy pecan]

I doubt that

[exotic swallow]

no

[silver nimbus]

What do you mean by lvl rerun?

[true hamlet]

1st talent

[thorny zinc]

you can my farming is dogshit

[true hamlet]

lies

[hollow cave]

you need a single point in void rerun to get the talent points from speedruns

[thorny zinc]

like its HORRIBLE

[thorny zinc]

more points = more time

[wispy pecan]

That's cus u haven't seen mine yet

[silver nimbus]

Oh i see ok thx

[hollow cave]

even if you don't do any speedruns on that talent sheet

[exotic swallow]

2nd mega ig

[west pilot]

i mean if you have all plots, farming is free

[quiet crane]

he means the tab4 points

[hollow cave]

yea, they were confused why they had none of their points from doing a speedrun prior

[wispy pecan]

No way it's that bad

[thorny zinc]

oh okay my bad

[true hamlet]

heh not even atom range yet

[thorny zinc]

[quiet crane]

guys i just had a 300s cc is that good

[true hamlet]

huge

[quiet crane]

318 to be exact

[true hamlet]

anything past 200 secs is big

[thorny zinc]

[quiet crane]

ty man ❤️

[quiet crane]

bro 💔

[quiet crane]

[wispy pecan]

Wait I'll send u mine

[thorny zinc]

damn you can reach more growth than me lol

[exotic swallow]

last char to 650....

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/the-binding-of-isaac-isaac-thumbs-up-isaac-thumbs-up-tboi-gif-17054798645892282867

[wispy pecan]

[thorny zinc]

oh god

[exotic swallow]

mobile players

[true hamlet]

mine worse

[thorny zinc]

you need more plots

[hollow cave]

I needa get through my current step of farming, trying to get some day market upgrades (easy ones) while getting 1k of all crops to see how many plants I can get through and see how many beans it gives then actually level stuff

[thorny zinc]

thats what im working on too rn

going for 1k on all crops + daily market

[wispy pecan]

Ye

[thorny zinc]

600 es done

[wispy pecan]

Ok

[hollow cave]

yea I think I have 120/121 plants currently not certain which but it'll probably go up a handful after

[quiet crane]

my 6th is hunter

[wispy pecan]

It gets the job done

[true hamlet]

ready for bean reset I think

[thorny zinc]

617 was the breakpoint for es level?

[true hamlet]

idk, just get 700 for good measure

[thorny zinc]

💀

[wispy pecan]

Shadow do reset on all crops and get em to 1k one by one right ?

[hollow cave]

oh I'll also get Evolution Superboost from landranks before pushing more so I should have a nice boost from that too

[thorny zinc]

yeah but you need the gmo upgrade from night market

[true hamlet]

not atom range yet

[quiet crane]

@thorny zinc hows ur summoning

[thorny zinc]

at your point you need to push 100 crops

[hollow cave]

still needa get the last lab gem to boost these aswell

[quiet crane]

aight bro

[wispy pecan]

Ye 1k sounded like it could take some time

[quiet crane]

[wispy pecan]

Gmo ?

[thorny zinc]

currently on essence gain farm so i can push more

[true hamlet]

gambit where

[quiet crane]

i dont have it tbh

[wispy pecan]

Ohk

[quiet crane]

i kinda neglect hole

im only at wisdom

[true hamlet]

free Super GMO upon reset

[thorny zinc]

crazy

[true hamlet]

building back speed atm

[hollow cave]

I have a feeling I'm not getting past this for a bit

it's a glass to clarify

[thorny zinc]

[hollow cave]

well I guess with Arcane Cultist soon it's possible it'll help push such

[true hamlet]

yeah no 😂

[thorny zinc]

💀

[white lintel]

I was smart

[hollow cave]

oh god fair play on that map

[true hamlet]

look at the stat diff

just a letter diff

[thorny zinc]

from that to a late gamer

[white lintel]

progress

[thorny zinc]

you are cooking

[white lintel]

still dummy tho

[thorny zinc]

nah

can someone send me the land rank sheet i lost it and i need to fix this shit

[white lintel]

say please

[true hamlet]

I do scattershot gaming

[thorny zinc]

please

[white lintel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_Z0-mJKRMxjFb0CSmg9MlfxDgdtwNyeVDd-7Bb1wXzs/edit?usp=sharing

[thorny zinc]

and stop looking at me like that

[thorny zinc]

thx mr bear

[white lintel]

its the best pic I could find

[thorny zinc]

it is indeed

[exotic swallow]

how fat is ur belly

[true hamlet]

now to get through all of this

[white lintel]

not very, losing weight over summer bc Ive not been eating as much as I do during school season

[mint quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/storyoflights-bear-gif-16346067025148585880

[true hamlet]

200 I suppose

I could try 201

[ember vector]

farming is so hard guys gimme some tips n tricks.

[true hamlet]

practice staring at paint

[ember vector]

[true hamlet]

also #endgame-chat-w7🐟

[white lintel]

progress is pretty

[ember vector]

just cuz u r talking about farming

[true hamlet]

but we don't give farming tips here

just look at each other's progress and cry

[thorny zinc]

here take a potato

[white lintel]

what stage of farming are ua

[ember vector]

okay

[white lintel]

you*

[true hamlet]

new shiny colour

[ember vector]

have read any tutorials on farming

havent

[thorny zinc]

your main goal at your point is to push for 100 crops i think

and get more plots when u can

[true hamlet]

100? why?

[thorny zinc]

damnn looking good

[true hamlet]

should be 200, to increase evo gmo

[thorny zinc]

200

lets be real for now 100 is okay 200 its a lot

[true hamlet]

helps with unlocking landranks

[white lintel]

not really mine, this was the preliminary famring section basically ripped from scoli's teiring spreadsheet

[thorny zinc]

a lol

[thorny zinc]

WTF

[hollow cave]

the power of multiplicative stacking

[thorny zinc]

meanwhile me waiting 10 minutes for potato

[ember vector]

what should i do first? unlcok more crops or save for the market

[white lintel]

focus on the day market levels from the pic I sent, and pushing higher evos after that and getting beans for night market stuff

[ember vector]

alr thanks bear

[thorny zinc]

its updated right ? i can use it too?

[white lintel]

what's updated?

[thorny zinc]

nvm im dumb

[true hamlet]

potato?

[thorny zinc]

[hollow cave]

do you get multiple overgrowth tiers per second at that speed

[ember vector]

could u send the whole pic? for my future reference

[white lintel]

the onlt thing you should be looking at on my sheet is the misc section thats sort of a seperate info dumb, you should know everything and have done everything on the sheet

[hollow cave]

or is it limited to 1/s

[white lintel]

https://discordapp.com/channels/437797104786604034/1353876926397157476

[true hamlet]

will be nice to get this to 999ms

[white lintel]

farming section

[true hamlet]

multiple I believe

[ember vector]

alr thank you bear

[true hamlet]

alright, 201 crops, good enough, gonna neglect it now

[white lintel]

if you find any strong boosts to your farming let me know, so I can add it to my sheet, early farming sucks a lot so I wanna make it not as sucky

[true hamlet]

it's just trying to rush landranks tbh

not too sure how much trying to push evo gmo helps with that

[hollow cave]

out of curiosity how significant are the EXP boosts from the shiny pets for farming?

not sure if it's additive and gets drowned out or not

[true hamlet]

you can only really push farming once per account

[white lintel]

yea, it sucks until it doesnt, and then it sucks again

[true hamlet]

once you get to 130, you're able to jump to 170+ in a day

then it stagnates at 195+ again

[thorny zinc]

i saw some guy on yt that was doing repetitive small bean trades at the beginning and it really worked

[hollow cave]

yea I imagine I'll be able to push quite a bit after completing the magic bean trade from this set and then it'll probably be that fast period

[true hamlet]

yeah, but I'd prefer to do GMO prep for reset, so I don't have to wait for the growthspeed to increase again

[white lintel]

heres where im up to with emp

[hollow cave]

well potentially more just a medium speed than outright fast

[thorny zinc]

fair

[true hamlet]

-# HarbingerIV

[thorny zinc]

yeah XD

[true hamlet]

I'm at 51

[thorny zinc]

idk who that guy is tbh

[true hamlet]

he's the math guy

[true hamlet]

eh, I'd have like 8s basic seed growth speed right off the bat, instead of 4min+

so I'm quite liking the pre reset rigging

[white lintel]

uh whoops

[hollow cave]

I meant in reference to my likely relative pace after I finish this bean gain

[true hamlet]

hmm yeah yeah

[wispy pecan]

What u guys dk and vman lvl on mining ⛏️ ?

[true hamlet]

terrible

[white lintel]

I havent push them yet so idk

[wispy pecan]

Like level diff

[true hamlet]

yeah 180m beans just trying to push to my max crop

[wispy pecan]

For me my vman is 3 lvl higher

[thorny zinc]

dk - 101
vman - 105

[true hamlet]

vman 121, dk 113

[wispy pecan]

K

Is it better to increase to gap between em or switch vman to other skills

[native forge]

u increase the gap itself, when u let vman on crystals

[white lintel]

vman 132 dk 124

[wispy pecan]

Oh

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-dc-hmm-thinking-gif-4575661

[wispy pecan]

Though I haven't done that yet

[thorny zinc]

i never bothered pushing past 100 tbh

i only did 100 for tools

[wispy pecan]

I'll make sure to let vman kill daily crystal

[warped raven]

what are good bubbles to boron after getting larry to 1200

[woven kindle]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[thorny zinc]

big p, dchef, call me bob, carpenter

[wispy pecan]

Am at 75 dk 78 vman

[native forge]

it's good to kill crystal island with him (i do that)

[wispy pecan]

Long way till 100

[white lintel]

lmk if this helps

[warped raven]

am no where near being able to boron some of those

aite thx yall

[wispy pecan]

Oh good idea thx

[true hamlet]

2nd bubble of each cauldron

[thorny zinc]

call me bob would be the safest choice and easy to atom

[thorny zinc]

or yeah those

[native forge]

90 % 540 arc ,the hard to get but atomable ,salt ones or just bob in most cases XD

[true hamlet]

they're easiest to get into atoming range (where it's worth atoming)

[white lintel]

some people cant afford 1.85k per click

[true hamlet]

bob already rinsing my water at low levels

[heavy terrace]

Is there a full refienry rank guude past rank 12

Cuz i might missed with my thing ...

[native forge]

til 100% laarry is a good thing

[thorny zinc]

[white lintel]

pins

[thorny zinc]

follow the pin guide

its all you need

[warped raven]

i should try and get big p into boron range

[thorny zinc]

i did that today too

[true hamlet]

my larry goal is 47900, but I'll wait till I push 50k+ bravery and prisma some bubbles till I do that push

also need to buy more carry cap from gem shop 😂

[native forge]

took my talents to 405 ,big p is love

[thorny zinc]

are u crazy?

why 47900????

[true hamlet]

47900 is 239.5%

99.7916% potency?

[white lintel]

its funny

[thorny zinc]

bro you dont need that

[white lintel]

yes he does

[true hamlet]

I do

[native forge]

what's its looking like now

[heavy terrace]

So i maybe have a positive amount of red salt but not the one after or the one after

[white lintel]

same reason I got 120% visual pre-prisma

[thorny zinc]

didnt follkey said a lower number than that?

[true hamlet]

gotta work on my liquid gen at the moment, it's holding everything back severely

[thorny zinc]

let me try find it

nvm its too much searching im trusting you guys with this one

[native forge]

i just barely done my soul ones since got 210 on td finally

[true hamlet]

short term goal first tho 235% larry

[thorny zinc]

oh i think this is what he meant

[native forge]

this look weird

[thorny zinc]

i will go for 5k laary today i think

[true hamlet]

prisma warriors rule enjoyer

my dementia rates are atrocious

[native forge]

hearty diggy is w

[true hamlet]

6/20

resampling tomorrow for ballot tho

[native forge]

still i needa more time for tree sleeper ,barely gettin 100b in purple souls ,lol

[true hamlet]

I'll resample again after that if I tick all the boxes in that list, w7 drops, or mc3 decides to give a good amount of prismas

[native forge]

yoink (never atomed)

[true hamlet]

tree sleeper only 216 atm, I'll slowly get it up tho

[native forge]

w1, w2 get so much value later on ,wonder if it's because of vault

[true hamlet]

slowly, not going to atom this one

also need to remember to sample scarabs

before I forget, gotta book vman

[native forge]

was that for slabby one

[true hamlet]

4-5 vman

[true hamlet]

yeah I think so

would be nice if I can also get my donuts up a little, so I can actually hourly click it

[native forge]

premigreen brr

[true hamlet]

yeye, but I don't feel like removing my xp traps atm

[native forge]

i can probably get alot of b of them critters ,but picking them without good bags is a nightmare

no critter bag stamp

[night oracle]

Do you play on 4k? God damn that picture is tiny

[true hamlet]

I'm spliting 4 tabs lol

[night oracle]

xD

[thorny zinc]

hm hearty diggy to 5k first or go for laaary? 🤔

[true hamlet]

this is mad funny, found out you can't trash pristines, so I'm using them as a barrier so I don't accidentally delete some neat stuffs

[native forge]

yea you cant trash xD

i wanted to do so with duplicate, but oh well

[true hamlet]

yeah, ended up having to use 1 by 1

[native forge]

so you don't accidently trash them ,cause it's gems

[true hamlet]

I guess so

[thorny zinc]

will we have dig spots till the end of the event?

hm so i prob need to buy 10 tries

[true hamlet]

prob prob

[thorny zinc]

[true hamlet]

I think I might have to buy another 10 too

[true hamlet]

with the rewards diminishing so quickly

[native forge]

too bad i miss the printer one

[thorny zinc]

a 20$ bundle is enough i guess

[true hamlet]

lolli flower

I'm still missing DB bones

and 1 more good one

uhhhhhhhhh what was it...

[native forge]

db bones ,dr and comb is most sought after

[true hamlet]

yeah

[hollow cave]

I assume you have it already but if not the deer pack is rotating if you want to get such alongside gems

[true hamlet]

oh missing jelly pick, exalted is huge

would really love to get that by next week

[jolly shadow]

Higher mastery gives more chance for pristine charms?

[true hamlet]

no

[thorny zinc]

i dont have the deer bundle but i dont want it as i have the pet alr

[hollow cave]

no they remain the same always, but higher mastery gives you better charms which gives you higher rate

[thorny zinc]

tbh i really want the watch cape one

[hollow cave]

if you need any pet you can probably trade it for those

[jolly shadow]

Cuz I only got 1 pristine charm when I was at Floor 1 Mastery 1 since then I haven't gotten any charms

[true hamlet]

thought someone retired

[thorny zinc]

i have all

[native forge]

hope i get closer to 100 dr with beanstack

[hollow cave]

well past doot I imagine (that one you can but not certain)

[white lintel]

73% done

[true hamlet]

yeah but we're.... specially farming it

[hollow cave]

ah

[jolly shadow]

Yeh with the meteor + yellow belt no?

[night oracle]

Why not just get 4 monitors smh

[thorny zinc]

thats what i thought but i cant miss this name tag

[true hamlet]

just gimme nametag and I'll be on my way

[white lintel]

apparently fomo is stronger than retirement

[true hamlet]

2 monitors, 5 tabs, idleon is the one on the 4 split

[night oracle]

How much you going for?

[thorny zinc]

i just want the nametag

[true hamlet]

just

[white lintel]

868k should be enough for me to hit dragon lvl 240

[true hamlet]

just

[native forge]

[exotic swallow]

I can gamble btw

[thorny zinc]

gib

[true hamlet]

easy, just do 1 w6 colo and roll nomwich on golden tickets

[native forge]

funny thing is out of tickets atm 😄

[true hamlet]

post office

so.. I think I should try the 100b gmush? that's a few candies

[thorny zinc]

thats easy for you

[true hamlet]

I only have like 100m kph

I need the p2w afk gain stuff fr

[thorny zinc]

"only"

[true hamlet]

only indeed

[thorny zinc]

its enough

[true hamlet]

oh more I guess....

[exotic swallow]

Gameplay

[true hamlet]

should probably do fiber of absence

surely I can hit max multi with it

[native forge]

with jocund ? ;o

[exotic swallow]

jocund

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1354894140701282325/1382505077905821756/image0.gif

[true hamlet]

perhaps

[thorny zinc]

i would check how much i have too but i cant

[night oracle]

29

:)

[thorny zinc]

29 kills per hour? sounds good enough

[true hamlet]

time to borrow mob respawn and afk gains from my vman

[drowsy plinth]

is there a way i can produce all salts from combustion in a constant way? like a way where i dont run out of salts ? like whats the strategy im lost as hell

[true hamlet]

check the pins

[thorny zinc]

damn refinery is so slow

[thorny zinc]

i had 22 in this image

and now i have 40

[sleek pollen]

[true hamlet]

thought I'll never use base DR in my life

[thorny zinc]

what is that 😭

[true hamlet]

got carried away mb

[thorny zinc]

multi kill obols are trash af

[night oracle]

29 lanterns

[night oracle]

EW

[true hamlet]

hey hey, mk is mk

[thorny zinc]

[sleek pollen]

my man 🤝

[true hamlet]

wait, let's do a comparison

[thorny zinc]

EWWW

[sleek pollen]

TELL THEM

[drowsy plinth]

ohhhh thank youuuu

[thorny zinc]

there is only one way and thats dr

[sleek pollen]

[thorny zinc]

shh

[true hamlet]

it's 10k kph difference, it's HUGE

[thorny zinc]

😭

[sleek pollen]

can't even do things correctly smh

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-gif-17291530843075000352

[sleek pollen]

10k is yuge ||for early/new player lol||

[thorny zinc]

617 es done

[true hamlet]

someone lend me their WW robe ty

[sleek pollen]

can't do that sorry fren

[thorny zinc]

nuh uh its mine

also db robe would be better than this

[soft girder]

just got 10 max lvls from summoning

[true hamlet]

oh right

[soft girder]

filsh good

now i need uhm equinox and db?

[sleek pollen]

got pristine?

[soft girder]

nope

[sleek pollen]

welp that too

[thorny zinc]

also m3

[soft girder]

damn

[thorny zinc]

gives 5 levels

[sleek pollen]

without pristine your max book lvl should be 292

[soft girder]

m3 is 5 and pristine also 5?

[sleek pollen]

pristine charms are random, you can find them anywhere anytime

[thorny zinc]

oh u are talking about max book talents

[soft girder]

prolly can negate one with the new armor set?

yeah

[thorny zinc]

299 is max so you only need pristine

[sleek pollen]

well more is more

301 now

[soft girder]

i just need 400

[sleek pollen]

not updated since emperor update

[thorny zinc]

lvl 617 es helps too

atoming big p

[sleek pollen]

https://imgur.com/a/arctis-breakpoints-jEMki92

[true hamlet]

even my vman has 400 talents

405 I guess

[thorny zinc]

i will get 400 soon too

[true hamlet]

ok min maxxing is boring asf, I'm just going to go with 150m

[thorny zinc]

thats something im working rn

[soft girder]

welp nvm seems im really far away

maybe db will be easier to hit once with emperor and gambit

[true hamlet]

510h of candy

[soft girder]

i will save my bones

[soft girder]

what u doing?

[thorny zinc]

283 lanters we are cooking XD

[true hamlet]

equinox

[soft girder]

ah

[thorny zinc]

this is my k/h

i didnt min maxed tho

[true hamlet]

p2w ahh

[mint quartz]

yeah you are missing mk obols

[thorny zinc]

[true hamlet]

it.... doesn't seem like a lot of candy?

[hollow cave]

I was going to say that sounds a bit low but I assume you already have ~23b kills or so?

[true hamlet]

yeah

[hollow cave]

I hope at some point Lava gives us a way to combine lower candies into higher ones

mainly for sake of fractal island

[sleek pollen]

ah

[true hamlet]

hot

[hollow cave]

cause I imagine 1 hr or 2 hrs are actually useful for candy clicking, but having a way to dump various ones faster for such would be nice

since using mutliple hundred or thousand 1 hrs on fractal sounds nightmarish if one was to do such

[sleek pollen]

+1 lucky lad

[thorny zinc]

wait if i dont do the 150 bosses one day they stack???

[fallen seal]

How do i know if my bubo is the character most to the left?

[thorny zinc]

[true hamlet]

nah, morojo just didn't update it

[thorny zinc]

oh okay thx

[mint quartz]

u put the bubo on the most left then it will be the most left

[thorny zinc]

[true hamlet]

seems my math mathed

[thorny zinc]

nice

[true hamlet]

1 last one, easy shit fr

[thorny zinc]

i have 3 more

[fallen seal]

thanks 🫡

[true hamlet]

I wonder which is the hardest frfr

[thorny zinc]

i would say the hats or the 100 killroy kills as u need to wait a lot

[native forge]

100 killroy kills xD

[true hamlet]

turns out one of them hasn't been completed by anyone

[thorny zinc]

oh wait fr??

[hollow cave]

has one of the rooms not spawned as of yet

[true hamlet]

a few haven't I think

[native forge]

wait ,when was last time we got like samurais or eggs

[true hamlet]

not since I started playing that's for sure

[sleek pollen]

don't use that talent, lab exp better

[true hamlet]

😂

[fallen seal]

yh im using that one just inverted in my mind

[sleek pollen]

ahh x)

[soft girder]

can u use candy on vman speedryn?

[night oracle]

No lol

[night oracle]

I hope you manually claimed 😭

Does this hat even exist????

[thorny zinc]

nope

its only a myth

[night oracle]

[native forge]

this is a real ninja hat ,no strings attached

[night oracle]

Wait is the drop rate measurement in hole the last one?

[night oracle]

NINJA TYLER BLEVINS HAT OMGGGG

[native forge]

for one and only master rupees

[hollow cave]

yea DR should be last, costing master rupees to upgrade and scaling based on ancient Golem kills

[night oracle]

So what should I use these for?

[remote plover]

if i select a star sign while having infinite star signs, does the negative still effect me? and does it work the same with star sign doublers

[stuck fable]

Negatives will not apply

[thorny zinc]

bruh fr

[remote plover]

in either case?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[snow heron]

is the equinox thing about greenstacking 20 things mean have them greenstacked at some point or have them all greenstacked at the same time

[round pulsar]

all at the same time

so 20 or more 10M+ stacks in your chest at once

[night oracle]

But if you equip an infinite star sign do you get the bonus twice?

[true hamlet]

if you equip it, it will only give twice if you have star sign doubler

[night oracle]

Fair

[hollow cave]

I think the sole exception to needing a doubler for an effect from a starsign is the sonic ring drop part of the sonic ring one only works when active, but I don't even know if that's doubleable it's just like that so people don't get random rings when they don't want one

but if you don't have the slab from it it's a useful note to know so you can get it

[night oracle]

Slowly getting up there

[hollow cave]

do you have Kitsune off out of curiosity

[night oracle]

On 😭

[hollow cave]

huh, that's weird mine is lower but faster, not sure where the difference is from

[night oracle]

Huh???

[hollow cave]

kitsune similarly lower at 219%

whats your squirrel %

[thorny zinc]

Also farming helps a lot with gaming speed

[true hamlet]

I think it's not reflected there

yeah it isn't

[thorny zinc]

Yeah

[true hamlet]

so it's whatever you see there x farming bonus

[thorny zinc]

Oh

[night oracle]

😭

[hollow cave]

what part of farming increases gaming speed

[night oracle]

My dk only gives x1.15

[true hamlet]

evo is actually speed 😂

[night oracle]

Just evo

[hollow cave]

lmao what

[true hamlet]

the 2nd bonus, misdirection at it's finest

[night oracle]

Wait huh?

[thorny zinc]

Lava saying the same thing with 100453 diff words

[hollow cave]

I can't say I'm super surprised it's like that but I am kind of surprised it wasn't changed

I only have 121 plants though regardless

[night oracle]

[night oracle]

What x are you getting?

[hollow cave]

lemme go check

[night oracle]

Because my DK grimoire is lacking

[night oracle]

Oh

[hollow cave]

so 1/3rd yours

[thorny zinc]

nice you are at the same stage as me now lol

[night oracle]

IT is not agreeing with the game

[hollow cave]

yea, curious how far out I'll get after finishing my current cycle

[thorny zinc]

this is mine for example

[hollow cave]

when set bonuses are available I plan to go back into the lab to get to 2100 to get the gem to improve the effects

[true hamlet]

similar

[night oracle]

How long until then?

like 10 days?

[true hamlet]

13 days ish

[hollow cave]

uh, I haven't checked i think the end of the month

[true hamlet]

29th I think

[hollow cave]

yea that sounds right

[keen parcel]

I am in dept with green frog critter

[thorny zinc]

classic

[night oracle]

Who's idea was this star talent point sink?

[night oracle]

HUH?

[thorny zinc]

mobile gaming

[night oracle]

You hit integer?

[narrow monolith]

guys, plese help me.... any1 have maybe tradable rift joc? i'm sick of looking ro him....

[hollow cave]

out of curiosity is mobile just 32 bit while non is 64 bit

[thorny zinc]

is this begging?

[hollow cave]

so it's running into (2^31)-1

[narrow monolith]

yes i begging, i can trade for few another pets...

[barren dew]

which soul is the best to level up Worship?

[narrow monolith]

i can also send feet pics if you want haha

[barren dew]

anyone had any idea?

[thorny zinc]

good

[keen parcel]

[thorny zinc]

thx for telling me

[narrow monolith]

ahhh

[night oracle]

leet

Funny

[barren dew]

this doesn't even seems worth the points

[lilac plover]

? ban this dude bruh

[thorny zinc]

[narrow monolith]

i'm not begging for free pet 😦

[thorny zinc]

bro thinks is hotair

[keen parcel]

It isnt

[thorny zinc]

sanctum 31 reached

[true hamlet]

1535

[thorny zinc]

i dont have microscope sorry

[barren dew]

anyways, anyone had any idea?

[thorny zinc]

prob w4 check IT

[true hamlet]

go Shadow, assistant guide guy

[exotic swallow]

Sigma here

[thorny zinc]

sigma owl

[barren dew]

ig i'll need to get it to round 190 now

[keen parcel]

From what i see frigid but dont know the other max waves

[round pulsar]

💀

[barren dew]

does the round even affect the exp it gives?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[keen parcel]

Oh wait nvm

[thorny zinc]

for me w4 gives the most xp

[keen parcel]

I think for him second to last will give most

[exotic swallow]

soon my owl will go into vacation for few days

[barren dew]

is it even charge efficient? cause i want to use the least amount of charge while getting more exp

[keen parcel]

Then i feel fridged will be best

Isnt that expencive but get loads

[hollow cave]

if you want to manually calculate you can use a single character to determine the exp gains of each then divide them by the charge cost of that specific ones

[keen parcel]

Or acorn

[hollow cave]

just make sure all multipliers remain constant through doing such

[barren dew]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[barren dew]

does the number of waves affect the number of exp given or not?

[thorny zinc]

hm i could go for 200 on acorn today i think

[hollow cave]

as i understand, yes higher waves are more exp and souls

[barren dew]

okay

[barren dew]

i didn't see it, i was alt tabbing

[fresh parrot]

got gold ball stamp

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-congrats-kid-congratulations-nice-gif-11565253382391449339

[fresh parrot]

what's the default upgrade amount for 1-100 arcade upgrades

[hollow cave]

32457

[fresh parrot]

jeeez, can't wait to exalt this

[hollow cave]

at least so long as the wiki value is proper, it also mentions the stamp is capped at 40% so the minimum cost is 19472

[true hamlet]

looks like I need more cosmics

[fresh parrot]

wahh that's so sad

so exalting it isn't huge prio

[hollow cave]

that reminds me I should probably hold gold balls such that I have some for the presumably coming tachyon gold ball bonus

[true hamlet]

yeah

[fresh parrot]

doing that currently myself

[true hamlet]

mc resource is additive or so I heard, it's not that strong in the long run, but it's good for quickly pushing early on

additive 4x sounds tragic

[hollow cave]

yea I've heard such aswell, though I am unsure additive to what parts

[true hamlet]

basically like base multikill

[hollow cave]

cause even if additive if the bucket is small it could still be useful

[true hamlet]

total multikill = (multikill tiers x multikill per tier) + base multikill

assuming the formula stays consistent, I'd assume it's just added after

[hollow cave]

that's possible, if I ever get in the situation to acquire a deer I'll probably do a test before and after to see the value shift

I guess outside of that I can probably also test if such is added for tachyons

since I'll actually be able to level it and watch the value shifts

[dense fable]

what cards should I use for an Active ES?

[true hamlet]

firstly, are you maxing off each portal?

[dense fable]

what does maxing mean?

[true hamlet]

I'm more concerned about doing mc3 without autoloot 😂

[true hamlet]

hitting as high as possible for the portal

330s range

[dense fable]

I am around 270

[true hamlet]

if no, then just run damage

[odd sapphire]

Pet battles are awful, ive been hitting this wurm boss for like 1,5 hours and its still not done

[true hamlet]

what's your setup

last territory only took me like 20 minutes

with 30k fight power

[odd sapphire]

This lol my stick died instantly

[hollow cave]

I'm expecting it'll be similar to the others, I can't imagine Bubo will stay unrestrained with whatever its special mechanic is

[odd sapphire]

Dont judge me im at work playing cant do proper screenshots

[true hamlet]

take a detour, go do arena 200

[dense fable]

lulz, I have never seen W5 territory fight with 4 pets

[true hamlet]

it's much much faster with 6 slots

[odd sapphire]

Oh

[dense fable]

you can unlock right now the 5. and 6. pet slot, if you are at W5 territory fights

[true hamlet]

weirdly enough, I did DB actively till w5, while WW, I gave up before even entering w2, it's just.... different

[odd sapphire]

I think this is the last W5 one?

[true hamlet]

I quite liked DB, I hope the progression looks similar

[dense fable]

I unloced 6. pet when I was at W4 territory fights

[odd sapphire]

Ayy I finally beat it

[hollow cave]

I mainly like the UI of the grimoire compared to the compass, even if I think the compass is a neater appearance it's just kind of a hassle to see all the things to upgrade

where with the grimoire you can just slide through and glance at all the available upgrades

curious though how the third will work, both in combat and UI

[true hamlet]

the progression is almost much more streamlined

[static creek]

is there a way to reset the merit shop?

[true hamlet]

nah

[dense fable]

soon you will unlock all of them and still have points that can't be spent

[night oracle]

Upgrades :D

[static creek]

ok, I max the respawn time in w3, as my first use of merits, but it looks like wasn't the best idea. but thx

[keen parcel]

Can get plenty off point i have extras on all tabs

[keen parcel]

Probeply 1 off best to max in most worlds

[night oracle]

Where can I find db mob progression picture?

[keen parcel]

Faster respawn = more kill

[warped raven]

ES or DK to farm world 5 magma recipes?

[static creek]

i thought so, but the recommendation did recommend it quite late

[keen parcel]

In some things you might 1 or 2 points in it

[thorny zinc]

time for wave 200

[native forge]

oh u there where i was 3 months ago ,cheers

[keen parcel]

Lvl off posion towers?

[thorny zinc]

101

[true hamlet]

looks like I'm falling behind

prismas and zen cogs do wonders

460b buildrate, while Shadow is prob at 1T with 100+ less levels than me

[true hamlet]

yeah, my DK is 1413, your's is like 1320 right?

[thorny zinc]

tho i need to work on getting carp in atom range

1334

[true hamlet]

yeah, I'm just falling really behind due to lack of prismas

tragic indeed 😂

lucky me, it's singleplayer

lava lied

[thorny zinc]

it is indeed a singleplayer game

so no need to feel bad when someone is better than you

• u are still better than me anyway

[exotic swallow]

stfu bro

[true hamlet]

heh, it's autoloot and eternal hunter today

38k weapon upgrade stone 2 sells for 1 dementia coin, worth

[keen parcel]

Got more buildspeed then me now

[thorny zinc]

keep in mind that i have carp doubled tho

[keen parcel]

But i am like 4 lvls ahead on poison still

[keen parcel]

I have only dubbled larry

[thorny zinc]

larry is the goat

[keen parcel]

Ofc just have 234% on it

[true hamlet]

same, dig isn't on my side

vaj with 22 prismas

[thorny zinc]

i have 3 bubbles doubled but only because i bought the pack

[true hamlet]

sad, dig isn't on your side either

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[true hamlet]

vaj stealing them all

[keen parcel]

It isnt at mine either

[true hamlet]

19 more rolls till pity mage is best and warriors rule, here I come

[keen parcel]

I dont expect ill be getting any but who knows

[true hamlet]

I can't say I haven't spent some gems on this dig

[keen parcel]

I havent

[thorny zinc]

i did and im 23 away from jackpot i might be cooked

bought 4 tries so far

[true hamlet]

yeah vaj has gathered 222 prisma frags so far

[thorny zinc]

WHO TF IS VAJ

[true hamlet]

vajura, WW endgamer

[keen parcel]

... i would only ever buy 10 spins or no spins

[true hamlet]

he's the 1st guy who hit +20 atoms from WW I think

[thorny zinc]

damnn

[true hamlet]

buying aethermoons everyday

levels of whaling even someone like you wouldn't understand

[thorny zinc]

i will buy 10 in last day of the event if i dont get it till then

[true hamlet]

I only buy in 10s, I'm an Asian, best deals or nothing

[keen parcel]

[true hamlet]

Did transfer flight at Bucharest to save 200 buckys

Enough for half of lava's packs

[keen parcel]

Nah that is not half

[true hamlet]

A little less hehe

Like 35%

That's just 1/(2+1), I was 1 number off only

[keen parcel]

Closer to 25/30%😅

[thorny zinc]

yeah but not all the packs are worth it so..

like who tf would buy the dungeon pack for example? except for psyduck

[keen parcel]

I know there are many that arent worth it

[thorny zinc]

yeah like molten cloak, the ram hat one

idk about phoenix wings they are decent but damage isnt really needed

[true hamlet]

I just checked, he doubled coins bubble, like follkey 😂

[thorny zinc]

lol

they want to finish vault xd

[true hamlet]

Doubling diamond chef even with max meals is degenerate stuff fr

[thorny zinc]

fr im not doubling it even with non max meals

[true hamlet]

Who doesn't want to get out of tutorial?

[thorny zinc]

real

[true hamlet]

Main consensus seems like skilling is top pick hehe, couldn't agree more

[thorny zinc]

being endgamer and not having vault maxed is cursed

tho these prices..

[true hamlet]

I like that I've finally gotten to a stage where I understand the tierlists

Larry, 6 doublers, total stat, and the main skilling bubbles would've been my top picks too

[thorny zinc]

yeah those are the best tho we missing something

||doublers||

classic im in td

[hollow cave]

hmm weird my DB bone mult is slightly higher than I expected from calcing I wonder what's going weird

I also didn't realize the grimoire bone increase was a multiplier

the talent bonus that is

[true hamlet]

I want a MC resource multi stamp

[thorny zinc]

real

[true hamlet]

oh yeah still gotta decide what to use my exalted on

I wonder, I wonder

[thorny zinc]

i cant express how much i hate traps

[mint quartz]

quest xp

[true hamlet]

I'll consider it

[mint quartz]

w7 quests will give insane xp trust

[hollow cave]

but for sake of it doing
(Base+Arcade+BonesOPlenty)*Emperor*Pristine*Gambit*Grimoire
my value should be (1+2+1.14)*1.2*1.3*2*1.35496 = 17.501747328 but the displayed value is 17.59x

[true hamlet]

[hollow cave]

it's very close to 0.5% higher and I'm not sure why

[light mango]

How often does the 3d printer actually print materials?

[thorny zinc]

1h

[light mango]

Makes sense

[native forge]

totally ,like the dr measures

[thorny zinc]

not gonna waste time with you

[night oracle]

Do I really have to sit a bloques for 5 days to get some accuracy going to kill clammies?

[thorny zinc]

do you active db?

[native forge]

the fact that you're just slightly on par with someone without autoloot even

[fresh parrot]

you can just go from genies -> w5 mobs imo

[thorny zinc]

who cares?

[night oracle]

Well I will use bones, but not if not worth it

[native forge]

idk ,kinda laughable to me

[fresh parrot]

just get 60% ish accuracy for moles/stalker/brightsides etc

[night oracle]

But how do I get acc from genies?

[fresh parrot]

which is like 16k I believe
the talent for acc/100 upgrade really helps a ton here xd

[native forge]

genies is good map to stack your grave in

[hollow cave]

Is Bones o' Plenty bugged on DB and counting 1 more level than it should

[night oracle]

There is no acc increase from the ribs though?

So yea I can farm ribs there, but then I'm still stuck with acc

[fresh parrot]

hmm yeah you'll be at bloques for a while
I think I ended up using upwards of 200 bones in total on bloques

[thorny zinc]

this will take a lot of time

[small sigil]

wait till 200 😄

[thorny zinc]

yeah thats my goal to reach 200..

its doable just takes crazy amount of time

[small sigil]

at least once you know 200 is your goal when your down to the last few you can start deleting towers and add in more poison and lightning towers

[polar geyser]

morning people

[thorny zinc]

yeah i will do that at wave 200

im following nocturne's guide

[thorny zinc]

hi jake

[small sigil]

ngl.. i'm waiting on nocturnes citrine guide.. i hate that one so much

[thorny zinc]

real

should be next iirc

[small sigil]

especially since lava "fixed" the placement near portals

[polar geyser]

how are you

[true hamlet]

this seems a little off ngl, doesn't really line up with how I know the multis work, will keep coding tho

[thorny zinc]

fine waiting 1412412512 years on acorn td

[true hamlet]

I might try removing variables that I know are multis

[thorny zinc]

the main problem is i dont have slow roast wiz maxed so it will take A LOT of time

[true hamlet]

coding skills fallen off bad

getting somewhere

[hollow cave]

for sake of it the value does seem to line up if assuming Bones O' Plenty is 1 level higher which is very ???

[keen parcel]

On mobile past 2.1b damage with towers you start healing them

[thorny zinc]

XDD

[keen parcel]

And not a little 2b a hit

2b healing

[thorny zinc]

💀

[true hamlet]

this multiplied by 1.3 and 1.2 from emp is around 17.59x @hollow cave

uhhhhh and it looks decent 😂

[hollow cave]

what are the components of this

oh whoops iddn't mean to reply to that one, the more recent one

[fresh parrot]

fr?

[true hamlet]

give me a moment to copy it out from the stat you provided

[hollow cave]

alright

[velvet anchor]

So many krakens

[true hamlet]

(((Base + BonesOPlenty) x Arcade) + Grimoire) x Gambit x Emperor x Pristine

[thorny zinc]

yeah thats the defence line

[keen parcel]

Happend to my lighting tower

[true hamlet]

this formula is still a little weird, but makes a lot more sense in my head

[fresh parrot]

that is so sad guess I'll give up on wave200

[true hamlet]

at least compared to the one I pushed out before

[keen parcel]

Will getbfixed in future, lava is aware off the bugg

[grim lodge]

What exactly does this bonus do?

[keen parcel]

Think you can still get it just dont get lighting tower 5x A

[velvet anchor]

Takes so long cause the offence is like negative 😭

[thorny zinc]

its not???

[velvet anchor]

I guess

4 poison elders prettty good

[keen parcel]

Book checkout

Kinda pointless quite quick

Book checkout for special talents for 5 checkout cost

[native forge]

what the ,were you maxing food lust?

[true hamlet]

+0.0088608 variance from 17.59x I think, that's about 0.05% off, which I'm happy to attribute to rounding variance @hollow cave

[hollow cave]

Grimoire is definitely a multiplier to clarify on it, if I have my grimoire at 52 (22.159%) bonus my mult is 15.86 where the 35.496% bonus was 17.59 where 17.59/15.86 and 1.35496/1.22159 are both nearly identical (1.109079 and 1.109177 respectively)

which that difference is likely just from rounding

[thorny zinc]

food lust and lab one yes

[true hamlet]

I see, so you have a rough formula?

[velvet anchor]

More star talent books from talent library

[hollow cave]

my initial formula but assuming bones O Plenty is 1 higher matches nearly identically being 12.9792 instead of 12.98 on no grimoire

similarly adding the 1.35496 to that makes it 17.586296832 which would presumably round to 17.59

[true hamlet]

I seem if you're happy with your current formula, then it's fine we're flooding the chat with nerd talk

[thorny zinc]

nerding is real

[true hamlet]

formulas don't discover themselves 😂

[keen parcel]

Last checkout you unlock is at like 250% vip

[hollow cave]

it's peculiar since I think it works but it just makes no sense that it would be like that

[true hamlet]

we're in a world of lava maths

[hollow cave]

if I could refund the upgrade and check every single level along the way to validate it it would help but that's not an option

[true hamlet]

would you like my DB stats, for comparison? just let me know which we're comparing

[hollow cave]

sure

[true hamlet]

• charred bone fr

[thorny zinc]

claim it now for x2 bones

trust

[hollow cave]

you can temporarily unlearn grimoire, all effects should remain but just removes a mult, needa know your Emperor Mult, Pristine (if you have) Gambit, Arcade Bonus, Bones O Plenty and the other +bones talent if you have it

[true hamlet]

I claimed it in the name of since

[hollow cave]

and if you have that your Pow10 value of the relevant bones

[true hamlet]

fair, every value removed is a variable less of deviation

[hollow cave]

yea since it doesn't affect the grimoire contents might as well take it off for now and test if it works later

[true hamlet]

Emperor: 1.4x
Gambit: 2x
Pristine: nil
Arcade: +400%
Grimoire: +87%
BonesOPlenty: 216%

47.10x

[hollow cave]

what is your grimoire level if you have it active I can check the wiki for hte unrounded value

[true hamlet]

good call, 413

[wispy pecan]

Yoo can someone tell me whether this guy is good ?

And what tier is he ?

[true hamlet]

not last 2 that's for sure

I want to say t4 captain

[wispy pecan]

Ok

[hollow cave]

do you have Bovinae Hording

[true hamlet]

fk

[thorny zinc]

dw i didnt know the answer either

[true hamlet]

why we intiallising at 0 not 1

[wispy pecan]

Well everyone makes mistakes

I thought 4 too

[true hamlet]

I knew he was 4th, just didn't know it started at t0

[polar geyser]

we doing the same thing lmao

[true hamlet]

real, I'm doing wows

[polar geyser]

oh im just doing the 5mil afk kills

[true hamlet]

oh, mine is pretty quick, because I did them at like 70m kph

[wispy pecan]

Buy ?

[true hamlet]

sure

pretty good just starting off

[sullen hill]

got it!!!!

[polar geyser]

ahhhhhhh yeah that would do it lmao

[ember vector]

guys i didn't turn on the atom collider but why my resources is still 1050M

[true hamlet]

caps at 1b to prevent mobile overflow (which doesn't work btw)

[polar geyser]

finallyyyyy

now i can lab jail everyone

[true hamlet]

we still getting mobile overflow complaints everyday 😂

[ember vector]

so all the resources i printed over 1050M just gone?

[hollow cave]

hmm that's very strange my assumption is falling VERY low specifically
(1+4+2.16)*1.4*2*1.86886 = 37.467 yours is 25.7% higher than assumed so something is definitely odd

[wispy pecan]

Who ?

[wispy pecan]

Congrats

[true hamlet]

the guy with cloud discover rate

[wispy pecan]

There's 3 of em with cdr

[ebon vault]

how does one rank up the refinery?

[true hamlet]

any

[wispy pecan]

The one with 30 cdr ?

[true hamlet]

yeah

[sullen hill]

the money hat works :D

[wispy pecan]

If ur salt cap is 50 get it to 50 and it will show option to rank up

[wispy pecan]

Ok

[summer herald]

exactly how does this work?

[ebon vault]

where do i see salt cap?

[round pulsar]

ok yippiee

[true hamlet]

just to confirm, which are you sure are multis?

[past hedge]

how do i unlock these?

[true hamlet]

jade emporium

[past hedge]

i see

[wispy pecan]

In refinary

It shows

[hollow cave]

the grimoire talent seems to fully be a multi, the pristine emperor and gambit all present themselves as mults so I assume they are

[ebon vault]

??

[true hamlet]

indeed, but I'm not too sure if I trust things to be full multis if they don't clearly state so, at least they could be additive with each other, and even on different levels

tell you what, I can go down an emp tier to check

[wispy pecan]

Ye get it all the way to 200 and it will say refine and rank up instead of refine

[sullen hill]

[ebon vault]

thanks 🙂

[true hamlet]

emp is definitely multi

that's 2 of 7 variables

[hollow cave]

I wish deer was toggleable, cause it would be kind of hilariously cursed if deer was doing something weird

[true hamlet]

yeah

[wispy pecan]

Jio When would u say is a good time to push to next chamber in sneaking ?

[true hamlet]

when you are ready, you'll know

take this good luck charm

[sullen hill]

just get m5 bro

[remote plover]

theres no w3 quest thats required for greenstacks right?

[native forge]

and progress nothin in there without fractal island sadly

[true hamlet]

no quest requires gstacks

[wispy pecan]

Well I think I should push but I haven't gotten all the items from the floor yet

[sullen hill]

dont have nothing bonus

[remote plover]

quest that's required for greenstacks, not quest that requires greenstacks.

already missed dog bones cause i didnt know abt gstacks yet so just making sure

[wispy pecan]

Push or item

[sleek pollen]

only w1 and w2 quest give items that you can greenstack I reckon

[native forge]

yea ,its huge cause that's per level bonus, depends on your average dudes level there

[remote plover]

awesome ty

[wispy pecan]

@true hamlet

[vast spire]

Oh no

[true hamlet]

idk, ask Lou

[sullen hill]

yeah, don't doubt it. But it's not needed to hit M5 fortunately.

[native forge]

yeah also don't have nothing island there

[wispy pecan]

Whoes lou ?

[sullen hill]

idk

[true hamlet]

beats me

[sleek pollen]

my boss

[sullen hill]

soon to me Sr intern

[true hamlet]

zoo manager

[sleek pollen]

just push until you can't anymore then go back and farm items

[wispy pecan]

Ok that's all I wanted to know thankyou

[sleek pollen]

[wispy pecan]

Still whoes lou ?

[true hamlet]

Dadoums, bring him to your boss

[sullen hill]

we just dont know who he is

[wispy pecan]

Wait ur names lou

[sleek pollen]

Sir this is Los Pollos Hermanos

[sullen hill]

no way!!!

[ebon vault]

oh m,an its soooo slow 😦

[sullen hill]

alright added a new person to the zoo

[wispy pecan]

Am dumb

[sleek pollen]

[wispy pecan]

And don't know hw to read either I guess

[wispy pecan]

It takes time

[sleek pollen]

and that its just the average idleon player to not know how to read don't worry

[true hamlet]

HOLY IT'S REAL, 97h of active sneaking

now I can start candy clicking 1% better

[sleek pollen]

[wispy pecan]

Who

[exotic swallow]

I've been here for a while

[sullen hill]

Todays edition

[true hamlet]

what animal should I be

[sleek pollen]

where is the red circle

[exotic swallow]

monkey

[sullen hill]

something magestic

[true hamlet]

like?

[exotic swallow]

I need to reach the point of leaving it for weeks

[sullen hill]

some kind of ant

[round pulsar]

what the hell

[sullen hill]

then you can be food for the animals

[hollow cave]

as a bit of an addition the Tombstone seems to be multplicative getting 114 stacks at 0.619% per increased the mult from 17.59 to 30x fitting for 17.586296832*(1+(0.00619*114))

[sleek pollen]

[true hamlet]

grass perhaps, seems like a lot of mammals

[sullen hill]

have added two people since last editiion now

[sullen hill]

true!

[sleek pollen]

is zui the new addition?

[true hamlet]

yeah I know, deer for WW, and tomb for DB is straight multi

[sullen hill]

yeah and the banana