I will try it
#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
honest cradle
hollow cave
there is a slight chance, but you'd need it to convert all projectiles when an attack is landing on both your first refiller and defender
and have them get unlucky enough to die when such happens
cursive galleon
pray u dont roll cursory skulls when u see an attack is about to land on your unit
otherwise u have a good chance of winning
hollow cave
yea, and with 2 refillers even if one dies if you get the loop started one death is completely fine
the defender dying would make it dodgier but the chance of it happening twice is pretty uncommon
cursive galleon
best safety net is your looter rolls about 1 hour worth of eggshells so u dont even need your defender, your rattler alone can defend your entire team
honest cradle
well I lost first refiller instantly maybe the rest will go well
cursive galleon
u need to time your defender's shield for the first few attacks
latent mirage
It's a timing thing on the first
honest cradle
yes, I got the first but somehow it missed the 2nd
honest cradle
y is monolith feeling even faster than b4
hollow cave
if you mean charging, looter has MANY things it can trigger that will generate it, and things like Badudum or shiny can increase the amount a lot
Badumdum indirectly since it increases your attack speed so your rattler hits more (since I think the rattler basic attacks are non-basic)
though even if Badumdum doens't work you can trigger multiple other projectile shooters or shiny that will increase the amount of non-basics present
cursive galleon
gentlemen 
astral flint
127% crit chance enough for the clammy star sign megacrit?
cursive galleon
nope, megacrit is from dungeons star talent book
one of the hardest things to actually get early game
astral flint
frik
cursive galleon
i still dont have it, dont bother with it for a long time
might take you months of dungeon runs, or maybe 2/3 runs
hollow cave
yea for sake of it this talent specifies that it gives the ability to megacrit
astral flint
dang
hollow cave
which is what you get from the dungeons Indigo mentioned
cursive galleon
its just a star book from flurbo shop
which u have to unlock the previous star talent book
astral flint
I have the four others, just didn't grind out mega yet
honest cradle
You just buy them?
hollow cave
you just need any level of it though so just needa get over the hurdle of the immediately prior one
honest cradle
And they are cheap
cursive galleon
iirc u need minimum 100 level on it to get the next book
hollow cave
it varies by book, not sure what the pre-megacrit one is
astral flint
well yea. but its gamba at 200 each
hollow cave
it's either 90 or 100 though I think
honest cradle
Are you doing your weekly hh?
hollow cave
ah ok yea 100+
cursive galleon
yeah ofc, but its a 1/100 chance of hitting lvl 100
hollow cave
if it's even odds for all there is 100 and 101 both
cursive galleon
maybe you got lucky, i bought the star talent over 40 times and i still havent gotten 100 on it yet
latent mirage
Looter
Trust me it's always the sheer randomness of its buffs
Out of nowhere you start doing insane dmg every time
radiant oriole
I'm trying to enter world 4 but accidentally used the ladles before starting a recipe for Gobo's quest, and now it won't let me complete it. I'm at 2/1 start recipe's, 0/1 finish recipes, and 68/15 afk in kitchen area. What am i doing wrong?
honest cradle
O wowo ribbons, I get so many now
latent mirage
I'm trying to enter world 4 but accidentally used the ladles before starting a r...
Finish the recipe?
radiant oriole
I have, ive got lvl 3 chickens .__.
radiant oriole
Turkey*
honest cradle
Got a t9 ribbon atm, peachring or jack pepper chat?
radiant oriole
You can make the same recipe again
I have 3 kitchens running with 50 turkeys in inventory
latent mirage
Got a t9 ribbon atm, peachring or jack pepper chat?
Peach is golden food right?
radiant oriole
still wont let me complete it
honest cradle
Peach is golden food right?
yes
latent mirage
No no click on new recipe
honest cradle
Which one gets the t9 rubbon chat
latent mirage
radiant oriole
Do i need to unlock a second recipe, then complete that?
latent mirage
If you can make something new do it
If not the same recipe should be fine
Hell there's a achievement for using no spice and cooking nothing cause of it
latent mirage
Which one gets the t9 rubbon chat
Peachring
latent mirage
Do i need to unlock a second recipe, then complete that?
Able to complete the quest?
radiant oriole
still nothin
distant parrot
Whats the new dig spot
edgy sphinx
Chocolate ice creams
astral flint
poop left side
latent mirage
still nothin
I just want to make sure when you click new recipe, you clicked the spice you unlocked from the territory fight right?
pulsar girder
holy shit i can't stop winning
latent mirage
holy shit i can't stop winning
Lucky! I keep getting Jackpot or the fishes, I want those slots
radiant oriole
I just want to make sure when you click new recipe, you clicked the spice you un...
It wont let me post images, but yes
pulsar girder
certainly wouldn't have complained to get another jackpot but very happy to get the storage
radiant oriole
in fact im now at 3/1 recipes T-T
latent mirage
It wont let me post images, but yes
You clicked that button?
novel coral
How does one get vee man?
radiant oriole
You clicked that button?
waiting for progress to finish now, will update when any of them are complete. Just not sure why it didnt register the first one 🤷♀️
limpid bough
is DB good active outside of wraith?
latent mirage
How does one get vee man?
Through Family
limpid bough
family.
latent mirage
How does one get vee man?
Click on the Hyperion Nebula and it should be the second
novel coral
Thank you
latent mirage
It's quite a bit but very manageable
limpid bough
is DB good active outside of wraith?
boo
edgy sphinx
I mean, its not bad. Just still lags behind the other active classes. doesnt really have a niche. DB belongs in the kitchen
gritty elm
How did i get 4 bubble upgrades randomly?
latent mirage
Thank you
Just a tip for ya, leave your Maserto in green mushrooms till they rack up those 12 mil, the other characters can focus on the rest. They might even finish their part sooner lol
robust marsh
First god weapon
fiery fjord
what does the idleon toolbox mean when it says a shiny pet has reached the level 5 threshhold?
warped dome
Just wondering if someone could explain this to me, I recently started working on shiny pets and I can't figure out if i'm doing something wrong? why are the infinite star signs not working for me?
edgy sphinx
Silly question, but have you unlocked the star signs?
warped dome
Yes all except for the very last one in Seraph
versed wing
is DB good active outside of wraith?
Best single-target dps class atm im pretty sure
alpine scarab
hi
velvet anchor
Yes all except for the very last one in Seraph
what does your first star sign page look like
alpine scarab
prob max
warped dome
what does your first star sign page look like
First 2 pages also completed
velvet anchor
interesting
warped dome
yeah no idea why it isn't working for me
hollow cave
have you cloud saved since upgrading the pets?
warped dome
have you cloud saved since upgrading the pets?
I believe I have but i'll quickly do it now to make sure
night oracle
I forgor 
warped dome
have you cloud saved since upgrading the pets?
Guess i need to cloudsave more often -_- yeah that fixed it haha thanks
hollow cave
yea had a couple cases where mine weren't updating when I was still unlocking the infinites
warped dome
yea had a couple cases where mine weren't updating when I was still unlocking th...
full page 1 and first on 2 now
hollow cave
yea I think you can safely stop at 14/16 infinites per shiny pet and you'll get all current ones
14 if you have all pets that give infinites and 16, maybe 18 if you're missing one
warped dome
yea I think you can safely stop at 14/16 infinites per shiny pet and you'll get ...
Ah sweet yeah long way to go before that haha, but good to know, im guessing with w7 getting closer now though wouldn't it be good to just let them continue?
hollow cave
probably though you'll get significant increases to shiny speed to the point you would gain more in the short-term working on others when you have all signs unlocked
alpine scarab
it gets tuff to upgrade them from that point onwards i think
hollow cave
when we get new constellations you'll likely have enough speed you can breeze through upgrading them to higher points
warped dome
ah fair enough
hollow cave
but getting current infinites is nice to do
as some notes if you have all infinites, I believe the sonic one only allows ring drops if you have it active even if infinite (the other effects are present just not the drop part) if you want the slab drop
and if you get the lab chip that doubles active star signs it's the ones you have actually active and not all infinite ones
grim shuttle
Is there a good benchmark before I start pushing world 4?, like my purp mushroom is 4k kills per hour. should I grind all I can from W1 - W3 before pushing? or something like until 10k kills per hour on purp mushroom? or push until I cannot anymore
alpine scarab
Is there a good benchmark before I start pushing world 4?, like my purp mushroom...
when u hit bright side with 5people tbh
10k kills is alot at your stage
im pushing w4 with 3.7k kills
warped dome
as some notes if you have all infinites, I believe the sonic one only allows rin...
oh good to know
grim shuttle
oh, I should also grind W4 skills and bonuses before pushing w4?
alpine scarab
oh, I should also grind W4 skills and bonuses before pushing w4?
lab and breeding only but in w5 their is another lab jail
cooking just use exp baloons
edgy sphinx
You kind of want the elite classes before doing gthe w4 skills.
grim shuttle
lab and breeding only but in w5 their is another lab jail
aight thanks. I have a lot of catching up to do. I essentially rushed to w4 after almost completing blunder hero haha
grim shuttle
You kind of want the elite classes before doing gthe w4 skills.
yes, this one I got. on 8 chars
alpine scarab
aight thanks. I have a lot of catching up to do. I essentially rushed to w4 afte...
rush to w6 then stop pushing and focus on all the things u neglect tbh
but dont skip div and lab jail
velvet anchor
oh, I should also grind W4 skills and bonuses before pushing w4?
do both, as you push put all your guys in the lab and check up on breeding to spend all your eggs and slowly level cooking well you push
alpine scarab
the only reason why u shd be in kichen is for ladles not exp btw
grim shuttle
I see, I should have 1 world pusher then the rest grind
alpine scarab
dk or es is good
grim shuttle
aight, back to setting up characters for grinding then. thanks guys
alpine scarab
bye
serene orbit
best place to put shrines
alpine scarab
best place to put shrines
only if u have the lab note
night oracle
My statues in W6 town and everyone doing hole :)
serene orbit
only if u have the lab note
i have the artifact that makes it apply to all worlds, so location only matters for xp
hollow cave
My statues in W6 town and everyone doing hole :)
wouldn't you want them in the W5 town
serene orbit
tbh
true hamlet
best place to put shrines
W5 better
limpid bough
didnt realize how juiced my worship was until just now lol
235k purple souls from one charge siphon
and I dont even have all my skulls
honest cradle
Anyone got that infographic for statue drops?
strange prism
best place to put shrines
never knew you could put them on the table 
silent gazelle
Guys what bubble should i upgrade with prisma bubble ?
wispy surge
Hello, how do you unlock the smithy on the w3?
limpid bough
have you bought at least 2000 gems?
honest cradle
!sets
candid scarabBOT
honest cradle
Ok, hopefully sb can break through the doggie lock active
limpid bough
just realized I have to push bm through w5 to do the master quest
uggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
limpid bough
I used all my candy on getting bb through-
I have 15 one hour, 5 two hour, 2 four hour
that is not enough
and plus bb had nobisect on
honest cradle
get other bonuses like bookking kill for kill or w/e its called and that vault thing
And w/e else there is then come back to it
Prob push my multi res bubbles to 600 now and then do a reprint
true hamlet
Don't feel like playing hehe, weather too hot
honest cradle
too hot = inside ac
true hamlet
41c
honest cradle
idk I use freedom units
true hamlet
Just going back to sleep
limpid bough
my kills/hour on river spirits went from 14k to 17k wow such an improvement..
true hamlet
idk I use freedom units
104 ish Farenheit I think?
odd spear
سلام
اقا کسب میگه من چجوری باید ووید والکر رو بگیرم
Hi how to get voidwalkerHi how to get voidwalker
limpid bough
forgot you cant candy in w6 ugh
honest cradle
104 ish Farenheit I think?
disgusting
exotic swallow
yap king
limpid bough
I have 15 one hour, 5 two hour, 2 four hour
got up to lampars with this
oh I just realized this also helps with kruk quest
atomic scroll
forgot you cant candy in w6 ugh
get used to it
cosmic vault
Did strawberry hat rare?
runic ore
what are deathnote kills and how do i see how many i have?
true hamlet
At the deathnote 
exotic swallow
what are deathnote kills tho
river spruce
hi gamers
runic ore
At the deathnote <:Grumblo_xplode:1102342435637559377>
where is that cuz idk?
true hamlet
W3 town
limpid bough
only missing nullo salt to make a diabolical staff hehe
runic ore
ow its from construction
which path of construction is deathnote from cuz i havent unlocked much in construction
true hamlet
1
runic ore
ty
runic ore
ty so much
solid marsh
Sup. Do shiny pets stack? i.e. I know that the levels stack - if you have 5 of the same shiny pet e.g. mush, mush is going to level up x5 faster. But do the bonuses they give stack as well?
solid marsh
bonuses are always active
Yeah, I know
As for the level I should go for - whatever doesn't take ages?
white lintel
depends on your progression
all lvl 5 was something I did, and then I focused on the more imprtant ones
solid marsh
Seems I get something like 100 days of progress in 2 days or so
white lintel
check Scoli
solid marsh
check Scoli
Scoli?
lilac plover
candid scarabBOT
https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203
solid marsh
check Scoli
Have a cookie for your help
white lintel
oh shit its got my name on it, thank you
polar geyser
My monitors turned off and it looks like I've lost gains again 
void elk
should i waste my time candy pushing w5?
polar geyser
Slept for I think like 7-8 hours today, wake up monitors are off go look all my profiles "3h 34m" 
polar geyser
should i waste my time candy pushing w5?
If you got spares it's not the worst shout
silent gazelle
Guys if i unlock infinite star sign and i have some locked star sign, if i will unlock the locked star sign they will become infinite star sign ?
void elk
If you got spares it's not the worst shout
alr
polar geyser
Guys if i unlock infinite star sign and i have some locked star sign, if i will ...
I believe you still need to unlock locked starsigns
mint rivet
Greetings everyone
👋🏿
pre-bean trade with all stacks I had E36 multi, now its insane
HUGE snowball
void elk
If you got spares it's not the worst shout
how do i raise my kph? its really low
zenith hare
how do i raise my kph? its really low
depends on what ur afk screen says
mint rivet
went from middle of green to here
void elk
depends on what ur afk screen says
true hamlet
pre-bean trade with all stacks I had E36 multi, now its insane
Oh god, neglecting harder than me
mint rivet
the later green
mint rivet
Oh god, neglecting harder than me
yeah my farming sucked previously
zenith hare
unequip that hp prayer
mint rivet
it won't soon enough trust
mint rivet
150 chizoars
true hamlet
yeah my farming sucked previously
I got my first 1k bean trade a month ago, I just made a 1b trade 😂
void elk
other then that youre at base kph cap
is that bad?
true hamlet
150 chizoars
Gems on the high end it seems
mint rivet
i went from an 8k trade to an 8mil trade some days ago
zenith hare
aka: you cant get higher without increasing afk%, mob respawn
polar geyser
how do i raise my kph? its really low
Accuracy and dmg
zenith hare
is that bad?
its good
mint rivet
Gems on the high end it seems
some are from lvl ups
polar geyser
Also what bean says
true hamlet
Ah icic
mint rivet
i also got like 20 farming lvl ups accidentaly
zenith hare
Accuracy and dmg
those two wont help them rn
polar geyser
Trust him more than me 
polar geyser
those two wont help them rn
This is why 
true hamlet
i also got like 20 farming lvl ups accidentaly
Should be easy to level to like 400
mint rivet
Do I just now let these sit, let them stack high OG
and then I claim, do it again
then a double bean trade?
exotic swallow
let them sit there
true hamlet
Eh
mint rivet
claim 1 by 1
hell nah
exotic swallow
are u that impatient to stack high og
mint rivet
no, I am patient and I wanna stack high
void elk
its good
dang, so its just gonna take really wrong to get to w5?
even with my time candies
thats what i have rn
exotic swallow
U'll claim like that for most value anyway later
mint rivet
little geyser
Do I just now let these sit, let them stack high OG
oh,are these the last crystal plants or smth?or the last you can viably get
mint rivet
oh,are these the last crystal plants or smth?or the last you can viably get
no
I am here
I gained about 20 just now
void elk
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1034167878775222333/1282252347736592427/1...
how many do u have bro 💔
mint rivet
last are 200+
exotic swallow
and they are gonna be harder to get
mint rivet
how many do u have bro 💔
more than you all here
little geyser
thats very small,try farming minibosses with your Dk if youre low and the event should give tons asw
exotic swallow
hes getting there
mint rivet
i would not say small amount
zenith hare
i would however
exotic swallow
he wont skyrocket like he just did not so long ago
mint rivet
he wont skyrocket like he just did not so long ago
huh
zenith hare
i had that kinda progress like 8 months ago
id expect you to be at most 3/4 months behind me for it
void elk
thats very small,try farming minibosses with your Dk if youre low and the event ...
what minibosses do i farm?
mint rivet
i had that kinda progress like 8 months ago
before my break u had less candies
zenith hare
before my break u had less candies
i still do likely
i rarely do the mini bosses
only somewhat do the giants
mint rivet
i missed 40 doots and 60 biggies
exotic swallow
i had that kinda progress like 8 months ago
are u grinding for mittens
zenith hare
i missed 40 doots and 60 biggies
you assume i buy those daily
mint rivet
any person would
zenith hare
9 days out of 10, i forget
exotic swallow
nope
exotic swallow
anyways, if u get mittens u are few months ahead of darkred already
zenith hare
rarely
mint rivet
should I grind for mittens after 100k bravery (in 2 days or so)
zenith hare
are u grinding for mittens
had them on release of set bonuses
mint rivet
afk not active
zenith hare
took 3 or so weeks of full afk
mint rivet
took 3 or so weeks of full afk
what was ur dr then
exotic swallow
give it few more days
zenith hare
base dr being 70x, best was ab 95x
mint rivet
my best is ur base then
zenith hare
worst chars got 300 a day, best got 500
mint rivet
i think I can do it too
zenith hare
are you active?
exotic swallow
active on es others are afk
mint rivet
is this where it ends?
exotic swallow
yes
north oriole
my es got like 190dr hope he will get alot more overnight today
mint rivet
whale
exotic swallow
hes just that better
mint rivet
is this where it ends?
@zenith hare how close are you to this point?
zenith hare
well ive basically ignored crops since i reached a bit before 200 due to the massive active grind thats needed to get to 230
need to get crop evo chance to 157e or smth
exotic swallow
how much crop evo multi u have
exotic swallow
mine is e116
zenith hare
gotta love it when IT doesnt actually say shit
like how hard is it to display evo chance?
exotic swallow
hard
void elk
what minibosses do i farm for time candies?
zenith hare
what minibosses do i farm for time candies?
w2 or beyond
SHIT
fineee ill deal with that
void elk
w2 or beyond
i dont know much minibosses in the game excet that hour glass one
zenith hare
i dont know much minibosses in the game excet that hour glass one
biggie hours, king doot, slush, mutated mush, the w5 one that i cant spell, the w6 one i forgor
btw
given my night market is only 170
dense dune
Pet comp for arena 100 speed run for tome?
limpid bough
domeo magmus, demented spiritlord
zenith hare
Pet comp for arena 100 speed run for tome?
peapod, peapod, looter, looter, the hoop thing, refiller
dense dune
peapod, peapod, looter, looter, the hoop thing, refiller
K thx
zenith hare
hoop thing is that w4 pet, i think can cans is one of em?
exotic swallow
peapod, peapod, looter, looter, the hoop thing, refiller
peapod, peapod, peapod, peapod, peapod, peapod
little geyser
what minibosses do i farm?
Any of them available,really
zenith hare
it takes less time
exotic swallow
could lava give 6 prism balls minimum
also could lava just please make change username item or ability to do s
whats the problem with that 😭
looking for a good guild with all bonuses minimum with good name 🤷
zenith hare
#1073780959087964210 is a good place to search :p
zenith hare
one isnt enough if ur rejected
exotic swallow
true
mint rivet
....i have to sort this out?........ehhhhhhhhhhhhh
neglecter
exotic swallow
I am still in dittyittyarmy, aint leaving until I am accepted 100%
I want non griffy max bonus guild
keen parcel
What shall i lvl?
exotic swallow
mint rivet
and then construction
mint rivet
you whale
zenith hare
mine rn
exotic swallow
even bean got burger supered and u dont?
mint rivet
sweating but still worse than meme bean
i am not sweating
zenith hare
who wouldnt get burger hypered?
mint rivet
also I am not active grinding even a 5th of how much meme is
exotic swallow
u are afk sweat
mint rivet
also i don't spend money
full beacon
who wouldnt get burger hypered?
now that you put it like that 
zenith hare
also I am not active grinding even a 5th of how much meme is
tell me..when was the last time i did it
excluding for the coolers
ill tell you when, over a month ago
true hamlet
also i don't spend money
Lies
zenith hare
before ur break
exotic swallow
u wouldnt skip a daily shop, u wouldnt skip hourly clicks
mint rivet
tell me..when was the last time i did it
same for me excluding the test 30min DK active
exotic swallow
I could get jackpot 2 times yesterday
1 step from arcade one, 1 gbar from treasure one
mint rivet
u wouldnt skip a daily shop, u wouldnt skip hourly clicks
some day
zenith hare
i forgot mittens stole my bars
exotic swallow
mittens 1m only
zenith hare
i was just wondering why i couldnt craft the armour
exotic swallow
afk
white lintel
Gambit is a joke
zenith hare
yes
white lintel
Original endless summoning
full beacon
so I wear def or something?
white lintel
Read the guide for how to do it if you don’t wanna waste days
zenith hare
welp.....
white lintel
Ye
zenith hare
after 650 going to actually redo schows and wows
full beacon
bro this is stupid
exotic swallow
Wish I had tradable doot
zenith hare
oh right yeah also need to book shit
keen parcel
Wish I had tradable doot
Same got 2 untradeables 
zenith hare
this tab looks sad
keen parcel
Anyone bought the reset to lvl 1 from gems shop 
zenith hare
i did
keen parcel
Planning on doing the same
zenith hare
second sb to db
exotic swallow
They are rare
keen parcel
Just want a lvl 1 char 
zenith hare
afaia you can select a class before level 10 if you reset
as quest is complete on the char, so could get a level 1 master
keen parcel
Would probeply reset my second bubo
exotic swallow
Applied for royalty, nobility guilds
keen parcel
Just always been in same guild got invited at the start for it
Where first to max guild bonuses back then
exotic swallow
Dont want to be in griffys guild
zenith hare
good dont
keen parcel
Idk in what guild he is
zenith hare
itty bitty
exotic swallow
He has a lot of branches
keen parcel
Ooh i am not in that guild
zenith hare
theres plenty of other guilds that does the same, if not better
zenith hare
current one im in
full beacon
oh so this is how you get cracked. just got 12 summoning doublers
zenith hare
youve prob seen variations of it
exotic swallow
Whatever
zenith hare
let the bookening commence!
misty sage
im super lost about the gene splicer gun thing in w4, is this something important i should be prioritizing? do i like afk on an easy map like green shrooms and then splice all the drops into genes? (is that what it does? im not suprr sure)
zenith hare
im super lost about the gene splicer gun thing in w4, is this something importan...
frogs is better, but yes that is what it does
true hamlet
Free stats at worse
keen parcel
the genetic multi bit
10 more lvls
misty sage
frogs is better, but yes that is what it does
ooh, any reason that frogs are better? :0
misty sage
the genetic multi bit
ooh yeah- ive been trying to learn what breeding does and stuff (all my guys are still in the lab so no ones doing any cooking so its really slow to use the spices lol), for now ive just been focusing on unlocking all the mobs — is there a proper guide on what i should be doing?
misty sage
its a more mob dense map
holy shit thats insane lmao, thabks for sharing
zenith hare
https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1277368276095336558 in the w4 section of it should have a rundown
keen parcel
the genetic multi bit
Thoughts about mine?
misty sage
ok, cheers! i used to check the guide all the time but realised that none of my qns were addressed in there </3 the ONE time i dont check...
fiery kayak
Hehe
true hamlet
yummy max level
How many levels into talent bubble?
zenith hare
smol
true hamlet
I guess?
keen parcel
Ofc depending on lvl
zenith hare
i still have 3.2k leftover
zenith hare
no its bad to
full beacon
oh
zenith hare
it hard caps at 30%
zenith hare
yes, and larry, and dia chief
if you get more then 5 doubles from this event youre omega lucky anyways
zenith hare
tbh i did dia first
full beacon
zenith hare
okay will this be faster after booking?
exotic swallow
if you get more then 5 doubles from this event youre omega lucky anyways
I doubled 10 now
I think statue bubble is not bad
actually
zenith hare
it caps at 30%
and it's alr 25% at like 98% eff
so you gain only a 1.16x bonus at best
zenith hare
db has +20
white lintel
Max is 25% not 30%
polar geyser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hnwry-JIJeo omg its the thing ive been having this whole time
this will solve all my problems
zenith hare
zenith hare
...that's not how hard capping bubbles work
exotic swallow
...that's not how hard capping bubbles work
honestly lavas problem for not
white lintel
24 x 2 is 48
exotic swallow
making it more obvious
white lintel
I saw someone test it an hour ago
zenith hare
24 x 2 is 48
yes but when anything above is set to 25%, as per what a "hard cap" is
so either everyone is using the wrong term
exotic swallow
yes but when anything above is set to 25%, as per what a "hard cap" is
I think lava should change that
zenith hare
then it's a soft cap
white lintel
No
white lintel
You cannot go above 25%
zenith hare
a hard cap is a cap set in place to prevent better
think prowess
any bubble caps based on reaching 100% eff is a soft cap
exotic swallow
lava shouldnt set those caps knowing there is doublers
full beacon
so you're saying it's 25% regardless of if prisma was 2x or 9001x
zenith hare
no just seems like everyone is using the wrong term
its fine to double it
a hard cap is vastly different from a soft cap
white lintel
Hard cap you can’t go over
Soft cap it slows down
Agree or disagree
zenith hare
somewhat
white lintel
Define your terms
zenith hare
a hard cap is a set in stone value that can not be exceeded by any methods
buoyant shadow
do you think this should be considered illegal?
true hamlet
Why
zenith hare
a soft cap is a maximum value you can reach by limitations stopped by scaling equations
white lintel
a hard cap is a set in stone value that can not be exceeded by any methods
Hard cap would then be 50% on startue xp
zenith hare
do you think this should be considered illegal?
what ab it?
full beacon
a soft cap is a maximum value you can reach by limitations stopped by scaling eq...
this is how I know softcap from other games too.
like if community says the soft cap of crit is 80% that doesn't mean you can't have 100% crit on the spec sheet
mint quartz
do you think this should be considered illegal?
i dont even know what boulder does on A
zenith hare
A is good in some contexts
true hamlet
do you think this should be considered illegal?
What about it
mint quartz
i just auto upgrade B everytime
white lintel
do you think this should be considered illegal?
There’s nothing wrong with it
zenith hare
i dont even know what boulder does on A
travels further
buoyant shadow
What about it
200 dmg 1 second cooldown
zenith hare
its good to get 1 A then rest B
buoyant shadow
ye s
true hamlet
Low damage
zenith hare
party go brrr
buoyant shadow
6 double A arty
true hamlet
If you don't do billions you'll never clear a wave
buoyant shadow
If you don't do billions you'll never clear a wave
it just takes time
zenith hare
this is how I know softcap from other games too.
like if community says the sof...
yeah its annoying when its used incorrectly. but its understandable why. main thing i say for this game is prowess, as i said earlier
that hard cap would be glorious if it got removed
buoyant shadow
im just bulying him at this point
zenith hare
green heals right?
limpid bough
howd I just find out w5 and w6 td dont have prayers
limpid bough
below 50% iirc
icy hornet
Green is below 50
limpid bough
pink is the on death
buoyant shadow
lol
zenith hare
im just bulying him at this point
yeah you cant beat that wave
zenith hare
its why void is great, same for slow cook from equin
either removes healing, or gives you 3 hours worth of scaling damage
limpid bough
excuse me, HOURS???
exotic swallow
this is fun
zenith hare
it hard caps after 2 hours and 47 mins or smth
used to be when next wave started on a boss wave
white lintel
9999 seconds magbe?
zenith hare
but that timer was extended, just capped slow cook to prevent infinite TD wave scores
zenith hare
9999 seconds magbe?
very likely
white lintel
Timer got reverted back down also
limpid bough
wave 50 to 70 on frigid
violet elm
Playing btdb prepared me for this
buoyant shadow
i got 7 party set to B and i still cant beat
full beacon
full B is not the way
zenith hare
i got 7 party set to B and i still cant beat
wont help due to lack of damage
violet elm
It doesn't increase that much after a couple
full beacon
rush B cyka blyatt
limpid bough
Playing btdb prepared me for this
this game NEEDS targetting options
buoyant shadow
wont help due to lack of damage
they give +15 dmg
white lintel
rush B cyka blyatt
Holy like 2018
buoyant shadow
i have 8 of them now
full beacon
this game NEEDS targetting options
nah it's a side game lol, just dps check
violet elm
No
buoyant shadow
yeh im cooked
full beacon
trust me you wont' care when you have lvl 90 poison and kraken
poison just hit everything
violet elm
True but it would reward lower tier player for playing better
full beacon
maaaaaybe
not necessarily saying I wouldn't want a better td, but the whole thing would need rebalance
diff rewards and stuff
as it is rn it's meant to be a powercreepcheck
mostly cuz it exist in idle/incre game
full beacon
oh fair enough
violet elm
It's mostly quality of life ig
full beacon
yeye
violet elm
And wait lemme find something
full beacon
do I keep grinding justice past 5k? or go back to bravery (currently 2.5k)
river spruce
Hi friends
violet elm
Hi friend
violet elm
Goodnight
white lintel
Hi friends
Howdy friend
river spruce
Howdy friend
Doing divinity and a bit of charred bone farming on active
limpid bough
prediction when bubo master comes out?
white lintel
Sounds riveting
river spruce
Oh it is
mint quartz
prediction when bubo master comes out?
probably after summer event
river spruce
Idk the meta on which spot to farm bones at what breakpoints. so im just doing beans
white lintel
prediction when bubo master comes out?
Early July I wanna say, maybe late June
river spruce
bubo already kind of a master class rn
bubo master class just turns all alch bubbles into prisma bubbles
white lintel
Bubo MC will deal with prismas just like DB ribbons and WW stamps
mint quartz
Idk the meta on which spot to farm bones at what breakpoints. so im just doing b...
im using this chart
white lintel
Gives 1 hour worth of bones based on your afk screen measurement
exotic swallow
Bubo MC will deal with prismas just like DB ribbons and WW stamps
next event shop: buy this bonus for few doublers
white lintel
next event shop: buy this bonus for few doublers
Yep
river spruce
im using this chart
Yeah just wondering when i can do sticks. my upgrades arent that low but i still cant really kill them
violet elm
Db himself is in chat
split raptor
Guys if some of the efaunt armour parts are better than chizoar should I use them?
violet elm
Guys if some of the efaunt armour parts are better than chizoar should I use th...
Not entirely sure
white lintel
What piece exactly
split raptor
But should I make chizoar helmet or anvil 3?
mint quartz
Yeah just wondering when i can do sticks. my upgrades arent that low but i still...
u can test for 5 minutes to see if u have better rates than bean
violet elm
Amarok will get you to w5 now
river spruce
anvil 3
white lintel
Amarok will get you through w5 into w6 and through early w6
split raptor
Void helm works just fine until you get troll tbh
Im using the efaunt drop helmet (the one with gold food boost)
river spruce
I mean you wont have enough nullo salts to make troll before getting to w6. ill tell u that
mint quartz
i still need another 2 weeks minimum to get enough nullo salts for troll set
jade willow
I reached end of w6 and still dont have enough nullo salts to make troll for all characters
river spruce
I prob need more than that. I got like 500+ nullo salts atm. I get 4 salts per cycle.
brittle glen
Hey hum i've heard that lab eff = lab xp, so is a focus on one of the 2 better ? Should i focus lab eff or exp ?
split raptor
So I crafted everithing insted of the helmet and the bodyplate. Should I craft the bodyplate when I unlock the salt?
white lintel
Im using the efaunt drop helmet (the one with gold food boost)
Eh, I don’t personally think it’s worth it
river spruce
I reached end of w6 and still dont have enough nullo salts to make troll for all...
I dont have enough to make 1 piece for 1 character lmao
split raptor
Eh, I don’t personally think it’s worth it
So use efaunt?
mint quartz
if chizoar set bonus affects div and lab exp then i think its worth
white lintel
I wouldn’t use efuant either
exotic swallow
funny how dude pings when theres no spots
stuck geode
the dude has the natural trap but from drone I can't access anything after wooden crates, how does it work and why
violet elm
Their bonuses are meh at best amarok set bonus is so good if you don't have them permanent yet you might as well run it trough w6
split raptor
Whats the bonus
wraith timber
the dude has the natural trap but from drone I can't access anything after woode...
u want to set traps with the guy that has the highest trap box
mint quartz
ah yeah unless u dont have armor set guy unlocked yet then just run amarok
river spruce
Just do amarok ---> troll. dont worry about anything else
mint quartz
u can recraft them and use w6 stones for extra wp
violet elm
Just do amarok ---> troll. dont worry about anything else
Current meta definitely
jade willow
the dude has the natural trap but from drone I can't access anything after woode...
drone is dependent on the character accessing it
stuck geode
u want to set traps with the guy that has the highest trap box
oh alright, as an extra question, will efficiency change depends on the character? so if i pick the highest one will all of them have highest eff
river spruce
oh alright, as an extra question, will efficiency change depends on the characte...
Yes
split raptor
And make the amarok helmet?
stuck geode
wow huge info, tysm
river spruce
make sure u have the right cards too
violet elm
oh alright, as an extra question, will efficiency change depends on the characte...
This is why you set up on bm
white lintel
Current meta definitely
Technically void helmet is better than amarok if you get all the procs of stones
river spruce
This is why you set up on bm
i know this is correct but im lazy and most of the time i dont
stuck geode
This is why you set up on bm
wow i just learned a big thing ty guys
wraith timber
oh alright, as an extra question, will efficiency change depends on the characte...
yes
same thing with xp as well, whenever ur grinding trapping xp, always do it with vman
violet elm
Technically void helmet is better than amarok if you get all the procs of stones
I'll test this I'm not sure
stuck geode
yes
same thing with xp as well, whenever ur grinding trapping xp, always do it w...
wait setting trap or collecting
wraith timber
setting
stuck geode
so should i set vman's trap by himself for higher exp
split raptor
If I reset the BM quest will it reset the world where I find the deer?
white lintel
Prolly
wraith timber
so should i set vman's trap by himself for higher exp
setting traps with vman for xp, with BM for more critters, thats about it
oop
wraith timber
If I reset the BM quest will it reset the world where I find the deer?
it didnt reset for me
stuck geode
setting traps with vman for xp, with BM for more critters, thats about it
gotcha man helped a ton
mint quartz
you should collect on bm too right if you want more shiny critters
white lintel
you should collect on bm too right if you want more shiny critters
If your shiny chance is buns ig
river spruce
if ur doing lowest timer on traps u should have more shinies then u need. besides the ones needed for vials at higher lvls
wraith timber
you should collect on bm too right if you want more shiny critters
not sure, i thought characters that collect dont matter
although i assume most ppl always claim critters from BM anywau
white lintel
Claimer doesn’t matter other than for shiny chance
wraith timber
ic
river spruce
I just collect from drone on whoeever really. Doesnt really matter to me to min max it
white lintel
All hail vacuum box
wraith timber
what about the automatic 24h claim anyway
river spruce
yea. im at the point where i do 20 hr traps and let the drone collect every 24
white lintel
Dead server Ngl 😒
exotic swallow
cosmic vault
BUT THE SET BONUS
40% accurancy are some thing very good for early game
like me 😄
cosmic vault
Ik void set is worse
though it strong asf
exotic swallow
but do u have smithy
white lintel
Oh yea for sure, if you don’t have smithy unlocked then amarok set is better if you need acc but acc is a meme stat once you get into w6 and beyond
violet elm
^
cosmic vault
first thing i carft at tap3 is void pick xd
cosmic vault
i still got 10 dense water but i gonna save it for the scythe
because for now i dont know how to get them
mint quartz
you need 7 for the scythe
quiet crane
good ol' times where i had to wait for water 
cosmic vault
should i replace my amarok armor with dementia bcz im accident carft 3 piece
white lintel
Are you w5 or w6?
quiet crane
it is better by any means
cosmic vault
you need 7 for the scythe
i know but how to get more of them
white lintel
W6 amarok is better
quiet crane
or
white lintel
W5 dem is better
white lintel
Rushing isn’t bad or good
polar geyser
whats wrong with w6 amarok
quiet crane
it is bad
white lintel
bro that not funny 🙂
No I’m serious
mint quartz
i know but how to get more of them
can only buy them from alchemy store daily
white lintel
W6 stone amarok gear is better than w6 stone dementia gear
polar geyser
u will die
mint quartz
amarok has more upgrade slots for w6 stones so it is better
polar geyser
cosmic vault
can only buy them from alchemy store daily
dont see any just see the dis water only
cosmic vault
how ice hammer w6?
mint quartz
w6 stones go pretty crazy from w5
cosmic vault
atlease scythe bro...
quiet crane
3k kills per hour
mint quartz
dont see any just see the dis water only
u need to unlock trench water for the 2nd shop page to unlock if im not wrong
polar geyser
3k kills per hour
cosmic vault
say no more amarok best armor xdxd
polar geyser
so ur afk for 50 days for each map or what
ooooo sorry hard
mint quartz
ooooo sorry hard
you should focus on bubbles/stamps/w1-5 skills before pushing w6 further
cosmic vault
jake give me some accurancy
polar geyser
you should focus on bubbles/stamps/w1-5 skills before pushing w6 further
oh yeah ive been doubling back on it, im just saying that amarok can do fine in w6 with a heavy neglected account rushing it
limpid bough
When did your damage get so high wtf
polar geyser
When did your damage get so high wtf
golem from nejo
limpid bough
Ahh
mint quartz
oh yeah ive been doubling back on it, im just saying that amarok can do fine in ...
oh yeah survivability wise it'll be fine
hemoglobin carries hard
limpid bough
Is DK or DB better for dungeons
polar geyser
yeah for sure
cosmic vault
golem from nejo <a:smiles:681715172355997765>
the accurancy.....
300k
bro im lv 140 but 15k accurancy only
polar geyser
what character
cosmic vault
dk
mint quartz
time to pump more shaquracy 
zenith hare
the accurancy.....
that acc is nothing
limpid bough
DK or DB for dungeons...
zenith hare
time to pump more shaquracy <:happytroll:1208199310777393153>
me when bad advice cause how expensive it is
obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed
works till late w5
polar geyser
DK or DB for dungeons...
good question
cosmic vault
time to pump more shaquracy <:happytroll:1208199310777393153>
u know it hard to farm bloach xd
zenith hare
DB btw
polar geyser
that acc is nothing
he right 
cosmic vault
he right <a:bugcatnodyes:1096150327771795536>
how many acc for me to kill troll
zenith hare
15.8k
polar geyser
what he said
zenith hare
thats all thats needed for last w4 portal mob
cosmic vault
still need 1k more 🙂
zenith hare
acc go brrr
cosmic vault
yeah i put some in there....
polar geyser
you stoned your gear for accuracy?
violet elm
Don't
zenith hare
for w4 time its fine
polar geyser
what he said
zenith hare
damage isnt exactly an issue untill youre mid w6
zenith hare
yes and you pushed before vault and stuff iirc
zenith hare
it is
polar geyser
for pushing? it is
mint quartz
me when bad advice cause how expensive it is
is 1k prints unrealistic at that point
zenith hare
is 1k prints unrealistic at that point
vastly
bloach prints are closer to 40-100 as of late w5 nowadays
theyre late w4
violet elm
Exactly what I had
cosmic vault
nvm got 17k acc now let go for troll
mint quartz
oh i must have misremembered then xdd
limpid bough
Prints went fucking bonkers when I got to w6
Howcome?
mint quartz
i rushed these two talent books from dungeon when i started
explains my higher prints early
limpid bough
First time beating 4th frog (hard carried)
cosmic vault
i rushed these two talent books from dungeon when i started
both are mining right?>
mint quartz
left one gives base efficiency and right one is skill speed
cosmic vault
how to unlock the left one
mint quartz
applies to catching/fishing/chopping etc
wraith timber
bloach prints are closer to 40-100 as of late w5 nowadays
thats so low
mint quartz
they're books from dungeon flurbo shop
i just pushed for them early after getting 2 rex rings
violet elm
thats so low
You'd be getting 50k copper and 100 bloaches times were tough lmao
wraith timber
im so early in w6 that i still think im in mid w5
but my bloach print is already higher than 2k i believe
thorny zinc
morning everyone
mint quartz
with those 2 talents + boost food + 50-70% sample rate i think u can push your fishing prints quite alot
not too hard to get even in w4
radiant pond
is anyone who can kill the last boss free to help me for party dungeon happy time? 😮
polar geyser
morning shadowww
thorny zinc
what i meant to say is MYYYYYY DUDEEEES WHATS GOING ON??
wraith timber
i didnt resample bloaches but i resampled fishes yesterday, got about 250k iirc
polar geyser
have any of you lot seen the old video of "are people scared of technology?" and then screams technology at them
replace technology with alchemy and its griffy
violet elm
Wait for next ballot bonus you'll get a ton more@wraith timber
thorny zinc
wraith timber
Wait for next ballot bonus you'll get a ton more<@1102255868977877052>
whats the next ballot bonus idr
violet elm
Afk gains
wraith timber
oh right, what was the amount
polar geyser
whats cosmic candies worth using on ngl
wraith timber
thats how new worlds go, they dont let u candy them
used to be the same for w4 and w5
violet elm
whats cosmic candies worth using on ngl
If you use it as a 10h candy you'll get 200 if you pray for 100 you'll get 2
polar geyser
If you use it as a 10h candy you'll get 200 if you pray for 100 you'll get 2
wise words 
violet elm
That's how I got 60m frog kills early
polar geyser
so what youre saying is i should pop these in gigas
white lintel
Use those on nothing island
violet elm
^
polar geyser
alright bet bet
@limpid bough have you done your idle skilling thing for the day
or wait had you already completed it from before i forget
thorny zinc
i forgot that m3 gives +5 talent levels i really need to push for that asap
mint quartz
if only we could candy at monuments
white lintel
Possible we can in the future
violet elm
Imagine not doing idle skilling
thorny zinc
lmao
polar geyser
Imagine not doing idle skilling
white lintel
Get that out of my sight
thorny zinc
ayyy lvl 22
violet elm
It's on mobile I started over on steam lol
mossy anvil
What's the strat for long break? All dudes into bravery except one char but who? Db?
limpid bough
<@867538442312876042> have you done your idle skilling thing for the day
Havent started lol
polar geyser
morning nejo
thorny zinc
What's the strat for long break? All dudes into bravery except one char but who?...
db fighing for charred bones yes
mossy anvil
Hi
polar geyser
Havent started lol
worth, good free stuff
white lintel
What's the strat for long break? All dudes into bravery except one char but who?...
Probably what I’d do, maybe bubo in lab but that’s up to you
violet elm
db fighing for charred bones yes
I thought he got bones on nothing?
thorny zinc
you can throw db on gmushes too for the money multi
white lintel
you can throw db on gmushes too for the money multi
No
mossy anvil
Why bubo in lab? Im almost 2100 total, is there other reason?
polar geyser
I thought he got bones on nothing?
i wish, id be sitting on so many spare bones but he sitting in cooking instead
white lintel
That’s candyable
thorny zinc
oh fair
mossy anvil
Gr
white lintel
Why bubo in lab? Im almost 2100 total, is there other reason?
Div xp, and total levels are nice
thorny zinc
or you can throw it here to get this
violet elm
Why are people pushing lab so much I figured mastery and done
mossy anvil
Nah this recipe doesnt exist
thorny zinc
xdd
mint quartz
Why are people pushing lab so much I figured mastery and done
jade emporium gives 3 more jewels at 700 1400 and 2100 levels
white lintel
Why are people pushing lab so much I figured mastery and done
Nope
2100 also ain’t enough
You want more for total skill lvl
mossy anvil
Alr so db golems, rest bravery and idk, es to do digs and check on refinery?
white lintel
Lava and his timegates
Not even a timegate you can shorten it
thorny zinc
Alr so db golems, rest bravery and idk, es to do digs and check on refinery?
sounds good
mint quartz
Alr so db golems, rest bravery and idk, es to do digs and check on refinery?
set traps to 20h for vacuum too
white lintel
Alr so db golems, rest bravery and idk, es to do digs and check on refinery?
Sure, I don’t think checking in on a specific room matters tho, and I’d do bubo as a check in toon so you can CC for Aton clicks
violet elm
Not even a timegate you can shorten it
I have the pet rings and shoes on everyone and they've been sitting there for 2 weeks now
mossy anvil
I got traps set already
river spruce
Man. finally did an update for my Frosty TD. That was brutal
white lintel
I have the pet rings and shoes on everyone and they've been sitting there for 2 ...
Other ways to get lab xp lmao
mossy anvil
Sure, I don’t think checking in on a specific room matters tho, and I’d do bubo ...
I wont be cc or clicking, just daily login and leave
white lintel
I wont be cc or clicking, just daily login and leave
Sad but ok
mint quartz
I have the pet rings and shoes on everyone and they've been sitting there for 2 ...
you can check the lab wiki for all the ways u can scale lab xp
violet elm
I mean I know meals post office and I think there was a bubble I can't be missing that much
white lintel
1 sec
mint quartz
do you have an exalted multitool stamp yet
violet elm
Ok card vial and star sign I'm missing on a bit
Nope
Main reason why they're stuck there
mint quartz
ah okay
white lintel
Lab eff is more xp
Afk gains works in lab
mint quartz
% for 2x exp when claiming afk helped me push through that point
white lintel
So any source of all skill eff is important
violet elm
I mindlessly upgraded first div for that but it says capped what's that about
thorny zinc
So any source of all skill eff is important
also i wanted to ask if you are doing nature traps for exp trapping efficiency helps getting more exp?
violet elm
No
thorny zinc
oh okay
white lintel
Nature gives xp not eff
wraith timber
eff doesnt affect xp for trapping ye
thorny zinc
then it will be a LONG way till 120 trapping level
mint quartz
u can activate transfusion on vman and then set nature traps, eff wont matter
violet elm
Dang I need to redo mine
wraith timber
one time you want more skill xp instead of skill eff so getting the right prayers would help abit
thorny zinc
nice
violet elm
Nice
thorny zinc
did you rerolled them too?
polar geyser
not yet
thorny zinc
oh okay
violet elm
Gives a bunch more
polar geyser
oh does the reroll transfer to next tier?
violet elm
Yes
polar geyser
i was waiting to get them to silver before rerolling
violet elm
Do not
wraith timber
rerolling on higher tier is more expensive
thorny zinc
another emperor kill another day without wings 
polar geyser
yeah i thought it was similar to the way that the armor stones worked with gear where even if i rerolled it if i tiered it up just resets back to the rest
polar geyser
another emperor kill another day without wings <:Grumblo_angry:10982657898255606...
praying for tomorrow
violet elm
Gives more frags when selling
Not sure where it is
mint quartz
its golden obolden in w2 achievement
polar geyser
Not sure where it is
ooooo ill give a look through the achieves
mint quartz
and i realised i havent gotten it yet 💀
violet elm
Lmao
polar geyser
ohhh yeah here it is
mint quartz
im almost done with my dr obols too