midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[strange prism]

good, probably the best way to play

[cosmic vault]

Poop pickaxe or play pickaxe choose guy im so confused

[strange prism]

800 atoms

[strange flare]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1034167878775222333/1126990745040080938/BuboEndGame.gif

pov: you're link

[dense fable]

I think plat is better, try this:
equip both of them, and check AFK info

[strange prism]

welp first one sucked

[strange flare]

+110 GT levels

[dense fable]

what do I choose here? I like time for more skulls

[cosmic vault]

Kinda confused why poop pickaxe btw

[strange flare]

poop pick bad

[cosmic vault]

It look tasty

I mean nasty

[wraith timber]

poop pick is awful cuz mining speed is nonexistent

[mossy anvil]

time to around lvl 50

at least thats what im doing

[dense fable]

got it

[wraith timber]

time to around lv999

[strange prism]

idk which to atom

[brisk mauve]

90% arc?

[strange flare]

carpenter to 450 obviously

[strange prism]

450 is when its in atom range

[strange flare]

no?

[strange prism]

.. yes

[strange flare]

are you on a warrior

[strange prism]

nope

[strange flare]

wth

[cosmic vault]

I have amarok necklace should i craft this ?

[strange flare]

your discounts must be way higher than mine

you dont have a bargain tag on??

[strange prism]

na it should be at atom within ~280

[strange flare]

that's wild

I atomed from like 140

unless it was 240

idk nblb

[wraith timber]

no

[strange flare]

justice now gives half of my GT bonus

😭

[cosmic vault]

Short and ez to understand ty mate

[strange flare]

bro i need to get cap up fr

[dense fable]

how many bubble pages are in total? one more page?

[wraith timber]

you'll use amarok necklace for about a long time anyway
maybe you'll recraft whenever u get new world stones, but thats it

[strange flare]

6 accessible, 8 total

[wraith timber]

1 world = 5 bubbles so yes

[dense fable]

okay,ty

[strange flare]

you can unlock bubbles early (like w7) but you can't access them

[dense fable]

ah, so after I unlocked full page 6, I max out the Boost page?

[strange flare]

not a terrible idea

i really should someday

actually, ill do it when I get 400 tent

[pulsar girder]

i've been amxing boost and i don't have all the w6 bubbles yet lol

[strange prism]

bruh

carpenters in range but doesnt hit, sick

[dense fable]

I am at around this level, I heard lvl 170 is max for each

[strange flare]

IT tells you what will get hit

[pulsar girder]

yeah i also heard there's some reason to NOT push the cost one depending on how close you are to atoming some bubbles cause it'll push them back out of atom range

[strange flare]

i should push 100k

[dense fable]

oh, got it

[pulsar girder]

and for ones where the mats are a pain in the ass you might wind up extending your time in The ANnoying Zone pre-atom

[strange flare]

yeah the cost bubbles will be the last ones I 90%

i avoid them

[dense fable]

which unlock shall I go for ? ( I am unlocking soon the Cavern 10 statue )

[uneven obsidian]

bravery is the one monument where more hours will always be better

[pulsar girder]

yeah the sword strenght scales with time afk'd

[dense fable]

oh okay
and how many hours do I need on the next one for some rewards?

[uneven obsidian]

and the bravery multi require such a high win to actualy start appearing too

[strange prism]

BRO WTF

[dense fable]

the better question is:
on which statue shall I afk ?
all of them? focus on one?

[zenith hare]

wdym

[strange prism]

that is exactly why im questioning it not hitting

[dense fable]

did you just get daily rewards one after another?

[strange prism]

IT's said its meant to hit carp 3 times and hasnt

[zenith hare]

cause its a chance

[strange flare]

[zenith hare]

atomic nblb isnt 100%

[strange flare]

maybe you should atom everything to make it the lowest level lmao

[strange prism]

isnt lithium only chance

[strange prism]

it is lowest

[zenith hare]

and there is for extra nblb procs itself

[strange flare]

then it should be hitting

[strange prism]

so this isnt 100%

[strange prism]

thats what im saying lmao

[strange flare]

lava code fr

[zenith hare]

depends on the levels of bubbles 15+

if those bubbles are lower, then yes its not 100%

[strange flare]

nah it hits the lowest level

and his carpenter should be guaranteed to hit

[zenith hare]

precisely

the atomic bubbles could be lower level

[strange prism]

k you've either never used IT or youre trolling meme

[strange flare]

atomic rolls are separate from regular NBLB

[zenith hare]

i have

[zenith hare]

it isnt

[strange flare]

they literally are

[strange flare]

you always get the regular NBLB rolls + and lithium rolls that succeed

[zenith hare]

show both

[strange prism]

welp carp wouldve been atom range if this game worked

[zenith hare]

could be the carp one got overriden by atomic

[covert summit]

guys is there anyway to get the stopwatch back if i sold it?

[zenith hare]

no

[strange flare]

lithium overriding regular NBLB makes no sense

[zenith hare]

just getting another one on a dif char if its the ring

[zenith hare]

think about it from a code point of view

[strange prism]

well if reset tonight works, then carps in atom range

[zenith hare]

and keep in mind spaghetti code and that reg nblb was made before atomic

[strange flare]

that's the perspective I am talking about, it makes absolutely no sense

[uneven obsidian]

lithium is worded as it will override normal

[zenith hare]

meaning that it couldve overriden carp i think

[strange flare]

man i probably haven't read that in 2 years

okay that makes sense then

[zenith hare]

like it has a basic list of all, then the bubbles change if you roll lith

is my guess anyways

[strange flare]

i thought atomic was a 15% for another bubble hit

i misremembered

[strange prism]

decent

[pulsar girder]

ok i got a maxed otu blood marrow and i got a 200 eclipse book. now i'm in 'throw books at whatever' mode

[dusty wraith]

Is anyone else not getting offline refinery gains?

[magic escarp]

man that boss was so difficcult

[pulsar girder]

oh dang they're starting to accumulate. what do i do

pinchy react

[rugged kiln]

Use em or if you don’t need em, fractal island them ig

[strange prism]

not bad

using candies on fractal

[rugged kiln]

I mean wtf else you gonna use em on if you don’t need em

[pulsar girder]

lol imagine having fractal island unlocked

[rugged kiln]

Still waiting on having enough bottles from Omar to unlock it

[pulsar girder]

yup

i have trash/crysta/shimmer and i'm buying the fishing one next

oh i could use nine of the 12hr ones to do this for the star signs. but it literally won't unlock a single star so i'll do it later

[verbal sedge]

Anyone got this bug that kitchen is not working? I stoped cooking 😦

[limpid tartan]

Whats the best Spice Setup generally?

[strange prism]

theres never a point when you dont need candies

[strange prism]

theres setups in the pins

[ashen iron]

so what's the best strategy for W3 worrship?

[limpid tartan]

Thanks

[rugged kiln]

Theres a guide in pins I believe

Well its a low level boulder roller wave 41 guide but still

[livid jasper]

how is the priority of Tower upgrade on construction?
poisonic > kraken> stormcaller>party>void>frozone?

[gloomy depot]

If you're already running Poisonic, the pin abt goblin gorfest 130+ helps alot

[ashen iron]

i'm here upgrading pulse mage

[pulsar girder]

lol i'm at the last rift where you gotta do a +60 elemental sorc portal score and i tried it and got a 32. damage please...

[gloomy depot]

thats fine but as soon as you can hit boulder you should go with it until lv 30

[ashen iron]

i lack iron i have 30K salt and 20iron

[gloomy depot]

i cant remember the cost of boulder tower

[gloomy depot]

4 explosive salt + 30 iron bar for boulder. so get ur forge fired up

[vast spire]

what do i do with vman after i get him to the highest skills?

[gloomy depot]

go even higher for more eff. and use him for bossing

[hasty crater]

are trappiung obols worth having on my beast master?

same with worship obols for the es?

[gloomy depot]

use full trapping gear/cards/obols when u set those traps. You can change it after

[livid jasper]

how to get obols for trap?

[gloomy depot]

most of all w3 mobs i guess

[soft girder]

im boutta craft a god sword and boots and then run out of mats

🫠

so expensive damn

[gloomy depot]

godbreaker?

[soft girder]

yuh

[gloomy depot]

y the first one is crazy expensive

[soft girder]

wym first one

they all expensive lol

[gloomy depot]

but the first one felt crazy exp.

[soft girder]

the sword is still aight, the armor is insane tho

[full beacon]

damn bro you about to beat me to it then xD

[gloomy depot]

when i were abt to craft godbreaker for all my dks, and DB i had way more mats

[soft girder]

im always one step ahead of you

[full beacon]

I have the mats but just been waiting around for no reason

[strange flare]

I wonder is 500k bars is enough for a set

[soft girder]

? how come

[soft girder]

i think so

i still lack helmet recipee thi

[gloomy depot]

cause i progressed and had more forge capacity and enough mats (printer size etc.)

[soft girder]

guys is the more bars in forge the slower they produced or am i imagining it?

[soft girder]

what does forge capacity even does?

isnt the thing in w3 refill the forge anyways?

[exotic swallow]

its in the name

[soft girder]

dummy

[exotic swallow]

shut up

[soft girder]

the name tells u nothing of substance

[exotic swallow]

forge capacity

[soft girder]

tell me the benefits of capacity when world 3 refills this shit from chest

[exotic swallow]

u get to put more

[gloomy depot]

you can candy with your SB on gmush you know?

[exotic swallow]

😈

[soft girder]

but for what? what!??! what?!?!?@?@

wait

[gloomy depot]

to speed up the forge

[soft girder]

i get it

[gloomy depot]

higher capacity equals more bars gettin produced while u candy on gmush

[exotic swallow]

bro even default pfp knows better

[soft girder]

so the 2k bars is from one full candy hour, and the next time i open the forge its a new stack of ores being refined, therfore leading to a misconception that the w3 refiller is a continuous action and not a set one

eureka

[exotic swallow]

I also got a trade for my deer for their mallay (I wont accept 😈)

[gloomy depot]

jsut daily

[soft girder]

those are the hidden experts, sages amongst men

[exotic swallow]

amonst men

[full beacon]

amenst

[exotic swallow]

against men

[cobalt hatch]

whats the max level for shiny pet passives

[strange flare]

10 or 11 idk

565k cc am i good yet

[exotic swallow]

are you good?

[full beacon]

does pingy ever become a 20min 1b claim? or should I just atom that bubble

[strange flare]

fuck trapping bubbles just atom it

[full beacon]

damn seems hella plateau already

50 lvls gave 1%

[strange flare]

are you on a 90% arc?

[full beacon]

what, hell no

I'm just barely arriving at everything costing 1b

[strange flare]

you should do discount bubbles last then

[full beacon]

ah

what's the plateau for big game hunter

[strange flare]

so it'll be easier to atom the atrocious resource bubbles

depends on what % you are going for

[full beacon]

oh true I forgot you can do thresholds on IT

[strange flare]

270 is 90%

[full beacon]

didn't really get that UI for the longest time

[strange flare]

it's improved now too so it's way better

[full beacon]

oh but that's 90% efficiency of the bubble

[strange flare]

it now shows current / goal level

[full beacon]

I guess I was wondering what the actual % goes to

[strange flare]

54%

[full beacon]

alright so I'm done then

[strange flare]

at 90%

[full beacon]

[strange flare]

is it level 270

[strange flare]

max is 60 so

[full beacon]

I prob just shoved the full 50 atoms into it one day

[strange flare]

level 2970 will get you 99%

[full beacon]

[strange flare]

so like

[uneven obsidian]

not all that hard to reach

[strange flare]

59.4% not decrease chance

[uneven obsidian]

compared to bubble needing 6k to 99%

[strange flare]

you rang?

[uneven obsidian]

tho big game hunter is definetly one worth getting to 99%

[exotic swallow]

even then, its not unreachable

[strange flare]

bubbles that have a 99% potency at level 9900:

[uneven obsidian]

oh nah, just more painfull

[exotic swallow]

you cant stop me from CLICKING to 6k

👅

[soft girder]

ur trapping is miles ahead of me

[exotic swallow]

especially bubbles that are candy clickable

[strange flare]

half way to 13k

[uneven obsidian]

the amount of water needed for 6k+ start to be annoying since you need to bubo for it at thtat point XD

[soft girder]

im still cutting costs on a 100k upgrades

[soft girder]

thats literally 98% to 13k

idk how u got to halfway

[full beacon]

yea bro I'm a couple months ahead of you that's why I made the comment earlier about you beating me to gs claymore

[strange flare]

from 12k

[full beacon]

more of a joke than anything, I could make it rn if I wanted to

[soft girder]

maybe a day or 2 ahead

[full beacon]

[soft girder]

im a notrious neglecter

i can upgrade my traps by 3-4 tiers rn

but i wont

[strange flare]

if you were half the neglector I am you would know that 12500 to 13000 is truly half way

[full beacon]

92 is half of 99

[soft girder]

sir thats not mathing

[strange flare]

do u even neglect bro

[soft girder]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-the-deep-bro-gif-9003163676469616067

[cyan sequoia]

theyre probably too young to know

[soft girder]

im turning 15 next month

[cyan sequoia]

they dont teach that until uni math I think

[strange flare]

he's jus a baby

[soft girder]

25*

[exotic swallow]

LMAO

[soft girder]

im a math expert

[full beacon]

do wormhole mobs drop cards? forget

[strange flare]

ye

thats why mob cards are best on es

[full beacon]

alright will grind a bit on es then

just opened minichiefs, wanna get it to 3* at least

[cyan sequoia]

thats gonna take a while

[full beacon]

oh

like....more than 6 hours?

[cyan sequoia]

[silver pier]

Anyone wanna run doot? Need to run on a DK and ES

[full beacon]

ok fine how about 2*

4 hours?

[full beacon]

aite

no grinding

when are we getting 3*ifyer from gemshop

[cyan sequoia]

whats your DR like? My base is about 73 I think

[full beacon]

40ish

I think I can get to 44 if I go hard on minmax

like sacrifice genie and poop

and use personal obols

[strange flare]

im at 70 now

[full beacon]

my god they actually hit hard too

21k dmg

I still have 100 survive but seeing visible chunks of hp disappear

[placid flame]

. What serwer?

[silver pier]

Whatever server you'd like man.

[placid flame]

grommit 1

[silver pier]

Bet

[livid jasper]

is cabbage applied on recipe speed?

[silver pier]

Kk im on there. My name is Large Shaft4

[placid flame]

are you already on sand giant ?

[silver pier]

Just crafted the dootjat eye. Im on my ES rn. I can go there yep

Anyone else wanna run doot. Need 1

[silver pier]

I found an archer!

[limpid bough]

my cooking has been slowing down should I start putting my BB there

[viral hazel]

Why is it so low? First, it was 50, then 70, I thought it really would be 90 next o_o Unless I'm bugged T_T

[limpid bough]

nope thats intentional

[viral hazel]

So that you won't get it? T_T I wanna get it lmao

[limpid bough]

oh no, the 5 gems is intentional

[viral hazel]

I feel sad and I wanna know the reason why.

[limpid bough]

uhhh idfk

you get a lot of gems just getting the gear

[strange prism]

idk why its less, but he doesnt like that system and has stopped adding too it so doesnt surprise me

[wary rune]

would this be good for world 4?

[viral hazel]

Oh well. Moving on 🥲

[strange prism]

the accuracy isnt enough but the damage is fine

[wary rune]

how to get my accurcy higher

im out of points

[uneven obsidian]

alchy

[wary rune]

do i dare use the red poition

[uneven obsidian]

did you unlock the smithy in w3 or are you waiting for it ?

[strange prism]

nothing wrong with it

although its only useful if you arent having a survivability issue

[strange prism]

should use speeds/power pots

[wary rune]

im waiting

[zenith hare]

no reason to do so

the vault upgrade also allows free star tab resets too

[wary rune]

oh

i forgot

[strange prism]

oh that

[wary rune]

im getting carried by vualt

😦

[hasty crater]

What does this mean on the mining guide?

[strange prism]

looks like the craft x amount of items without opening your inventory task

unless its cost for the gear its displaying

I've never seen that lol

[hasty crater]

]ree

appreciate it*

[strange prism]

that chart looks pretty old tbh

id use the chart in the pins

[hasty crater]

alrighty

[young oyster]

im having a lil hard time doing rift 41 any tips?

[strange prism]

Bubo or DK or DB , if you cant kill before respawn then work on damage

[livid jasper]

should i put my highest ribbon to cabbage? rank 5

[dense fable]

wow, how easy is to push armor sets after they don't require salts

struggled for ages for Troll armor
now already in 1 day Kruk armor
and pushing forward in a few days

[young oyster]

yeah i may be lakcing a lil damge

[young oyster]

and i should take off repawn talents?

[young oyster]

btw u know about combining ribons right? just making sure

[livid jasper]

yeah

[mossy anvil]

imo combine and put it

low tier ribbons dont have that much impact

like lvl 1 or 2

[dense fable]

the only way to get this ring is Funguy npc ?

[young oyster]

i dont think its a big deal if you do anyways cause u get a bunch of ribbons every day and t5 isnt that hard to get back

with ur db youll get higher tiers later anyways

[livid jasper]

is 2 DB= 2 ribbon daily?

[young oyster]

2 db not worth 😭

[young oyster]

not sure about that but he does have the talent to increase ribbon rank u get

[limpid bough]

20 hours for salts

I can finally rank my orange and blue

I can probably unlock Nullo this wek

how much purple salt does it take to unlock

cant check im out of teleports lol

[pulsar girder]

eyyy golden food stamp finally

[limpid bough]

ugghghgh that quest....

congrats dude

[pulsar girder]

not bad

[limpid bough]

IT COSTS GOLD SANDWICHES WHAT

[pulsar girder]

and yes i didn't turn it in on my farming guys so i can greenstack the things still

[pulsar girder]

they're just a rare drop its not really any different than them costing like glass shards for the carry cap one

[coral sand]

You could probably easily do the chievos that unlock EZ Access Shops if you need the tps

[crimson vigil]

hello chat, im coming back to the game after like a year, is there anything before this point i should go back and do to be caught up?

other than the vault which i can pretty clearly see

[pulsar girder]

did orion the owl/poppy the mouse exist when you played

in w1/w2

[limpid bough]

UGH THE GLASS SHARDS

[crimson vigil]

yea

[coral sand]

We're you around for the launch of w6?

[crimson vigil]

only a year back, not that much

[mossy anvil]

YOOO WHO DAT

[crimson vigil]

uhhh i honestly dont know tbh i havent gotten to that point and i dont really look at stuff i havent experienced yet

[limpid bough]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[coral sand]

Use that to roll the vial gacha NOW

[limpid bough]

can we kill both pickle vials appearing in the "next vial" thing

[crimson vigil]

oh yea w6 came out before orion and poppy and ive used them

[mossy anvil]

so it needs to hit aswell? xD

no way

[coral sand]

It gives you faster balls regen. One of the bigger boosts to that even at lv1

[uneven obsidian]

yeah that pickle is great to boost your arcade

[mossy anvil]

ahh i know it goes into vial, was thinking there is chance to not vial it and delete it somehow

[coral sand]

Oh, you know what you should do? Get the master classes for BB and bm. They'd push so much for you

[crimson vigil]

im still only w4

no master classes for me

[mossy anvil]

unluckily it didnt hit

[coral sand]

Also you say "it needs to hit" like you've been neglecting your vials. Please tell me this is just me having a schizo moment

[gray trench]

i got a question so for the onyx statue i gotta get 20k power statues to get the onyx statue right, but my question is after i finish that quest will i not be able to do the first quest on my other characters, because that first quest i think gives a good amount of pow statues

[limpid bough]

my highest mob reached is lampars and my accuracy is like 1m 😭

uhhhhhh

[mossy anvil]

lil bit neglected, like 2 or 3 vials maybe

[pulsar girder]

lol

did you see my new stamp

not as big as you getting bjp!!!!! grats!!!!

[coral sand]

Iirc, you could do the quest with multiple chars to have a ton of the Kapows statues

[mossy anvil]

about "it needs to hit" i asked that because i saw someone here saying balljoe is insta vial, without rolling

like month ago or something

[uneven obsidian]

rng can be like that sometimes

[mossy anvil]

thanks gary, what stamp u got there

[coral sand]

Bro was just lucky then

[pulsar girder]

choco chip -> the shit actually dropped at reasonable rates

and i turned it in on a non-mob-farming-guy so i can still greenstack the follower tokens

[mossy anvil]

That's nice

Also working on pre 200gs while statue farming is good idea

Prob just need to rise cap and inv slots a bit

[pulsar girder]

yeah i actually have the 75gs equinox quest rn and might push to complete it while i'm farming around but it feels pretty far away

[coral sand]

Or just be a ram haver. That way, you only need to worry about chest slots

[gray trench]

then you gotta worry about storage slots lmao

[mossy anvil]

With game running at home and being at work it might pile up too much

[crimson vigil]

wow the vault has so much useful shit in it

the card drop rate cards all being passive is very nice, and the straight to storage thing is very nice

speeds up the boring part of the game

[mossy anvil]

anyone able to post gcake recipe?

[mossy anvil]

thanks

[coral sand]

Talent Do Over is pretty good too. Never ever had to use Talent reset potions on purpose because of it

[radiant pond]

btw is it possible to candy rift?

[limpid bough]

nope

[radiant pond]

sad

[mossy anvil]

does shells and ghosts take as much time as 100k lanterns?

+-

[coral sand]

A thing you could do with that is use it to dump points into "Talent points for Tab x" talents, spend those talent points then yoink them back with Do Over. What will however end up happening is that you'll end up in Talent Point debt for the affected tabs but Talent points now is better than Talent points from the fure, right?

[radiant pond]

why 100k and not 10mil? 🤔

[mossy anvil]

100k lanterns? for mittens

[radiant pond]

I mean at some point I have too many talent points

[radiant pond]

oh havent begun farming that welp

[mossy anvil]

it takes me 33 days with es active + all chars afk so im not doing that yet

[lapis pond]

is this dungeon or outside stats?

or both?

[minor marten]

In dungeon

[mossy anvil]

inside

other one is outside dung

[coral sand]

Still a good early/mid game trick cus you won't even have that TP opulence til like post 400s, post 500s which you're not exactly ever hitting in w4

[radiant pond]

probably will see whether I wanna do it in another month

[radiant pond]

well I am 3 month old player so welp ⚰️

I think at this point things are going faster so it will only help in the first month or so at max

[mossy anvil]

well, u need around 100dr to make it "somehow fast"

it still takes days

[pulsar girder]

i hate party dungeon so fucking much aaaaaaugh i'm gonna be on the 'max 5 flurbo' quest forever

[mossy anvil]

i can help u

[pulsar girder]

i just joined what i thought was a carry group in party-finder and it wasn't and i used 20HH tokens on it

[mossy anvil]

but u wont finish it in 1 run

[radiant pond]

wait does es even drop dark lanterns?

[pulsar girder]

lmaooo

[mossy anvil]

yes, everything in 1st page is farmed on es, everything in bag is dk

[pulsar girder]

across my last 40 HH tokens i have gotten a grand total of 1100 flurbo tokens lol

[radiant pond]

I have been skimping on party dungeons too welp

take too long to get a party even

[keen parcel]

Happy houre come join me on dice server 13

[radiant pond]

much less a carry one

[pulsar girder]

projecting outward i believe this means i will complete the quest in 2027

[keen parcel]

5 out of 10

[radiant pond]

the result of me staying in party dungeon finding party for a whole hour and not finding any twice 104 passes welp

[mossy anvil]

@pulsar girder u done hh this weekend?

[pulsar girder]

my weekly reset was today and i just used my HH run and it only killed two frogs

[rare prism]

im full auto atm, how far will it go

[pulsar girder]

lesson learned is don't trust anyone in party-finder ask in here next week lol

[radiant pond]

tbh rather then a time stopper I would rather take a healer

[pulsar girder]

last time lesson learned was "the prayer that says it gives you double flurbos actually just takes your weekly tickets and gives you nothing"

wonder what i'll find out next time! probably whitescreen or something

[rare prism]

i have the idle guide pulled up, that was the next attempt at arena. the other coffee one died early, so i'm stuck riding this one out lol

[pulsar girder]

i bet i get the "reach lv300 construction" before the flurbo one lol

[coral sand]

Wait til bro learns about Construct mastery

[river spruce]

how should i be using my balloons? or does it not really matter?

[coral sand]

You could use them in TD to bump up your worship levels

[dense fable]

same

[radiant pond]

thanks for party ❤️

[keen parcel]

Np

[mossy anvil]

those levels to r50 are so slow

[zenith hare]

the prayer helps a bunch

[mossy anvil]

double entries? then i would need to wait 2 weeks

[zenith hare]

for the same amount of xp if you did 2 runs

aka: you can ignore it more

for 0 loss in gains

[radiant pond]

btw do mining afk gains increase scale to big pick level?

[zenith hare]

they do increase yes

[rare prism]

update on arena, still going. it's slowed down quite a bit lol

[radiant pond]

give it an hour or two

go out for lunch or dinner

[rare prism]

you think it'll go for AN HOUR?!

[zenith hare]

mono does that

[radiant pond]

uh well normally people run it for few hours

[zenith hare]

its why you should NEVER use mono in arena

and i mean never

[rare prism]

what round we reachin at least, so i know if itl'l be worth

if there's even a tiny chance at rnd 125, i'll give it a go

[fresh parrot]

you're using mono aren't you...

[radiant pond]

mono is monolith which I just call timestopper for dummies

[fresh parrot]

have you pushed w3 breeding pets at all? specifically if you've unlocked bloque

[rare prism]

yea i have bloque

i was gunna do this if this run failed;

[fresh parrot]

unfortunate
anyway use
looter/rattler/badumdum/refiller/bogor

you'll get 125 so much faster

[zenith hare]

"rng"

[zenith hare]

its not unfortunate!

[radiant pond]

treasure chest always good

[rare prism]

ok i'll try that one next then

[pulsar girder]

actually when i used it last time it took all my HH tokens and gave me rewards as if i had had zero because i wasn't holding 'double what it was spending' lol so i don't want to touch it again

[zenith hare]

bloque only speeds it up in defenderless builds

[fresh parrot]

literally makes looter kill itself and it's teammates..

[zenith hare]

thats if you have blocks to begin with

[fresh parrot]

then again I haven't used defender-less so fair enough

[zenith hare]

where are the blocks here? thats right! its egg shells, the ability

its also why its rng

you can sometimes die from 115-125 if eggshells wears off

its a bit rare tho

[fresh parrot]

no like my looter literally killed 4/6 pets by round180 because it kept turning shit into random garbage, and I have w1-3 fully unlocked

[zenith hare]

yeah and you used the wrong comp

[fresh parrot]

still good tho

[soft girder]

by wave 100 u should have thousands of eggshells no?

[zenith hare]

it specifically says to swap looter and refiller if you have bloque

so that rattler, defender, and refiller are all thats left

[soft girder]

whats wrong with the usual comp btw?

[zenith hare]

still being an inf combo, and taking the 500x damage bonus alchemic gives

[fresh parrot]

welp by round180 I had enough refiller stacks to go well past 200

so rattler + defender just went brrr for 20 rounds

hmm I think I have 5k spices for the gem now

[gloomy stag]

I'm seeing some people with 6 pets in area? How's it at 6? I have 5

[fresh parrot]

round125 unlocks 6th slot

[gloomy stag]

Weird, I've gotten past 125. Lemme go do that again, maybe I messed up somehow

[livid jasper]

better do all kitchen 1 meal? or 1 kitchen 1 meal?

[pulsar girder]

doesn't matter. and its easier to do all at once cause of the Cook All button so i just do that

[radiant pond]

I mean no difference but 90% use cook all cause lazy

no difference might as well be lazy

[pulsar girder]

nothing lazy about it imo

[mossy anvil]

im doing 1 meal 1 kitchen coz of afk procs and its overall faster for me because of upgrades

[gloomy stag]

But when I go to fight Lallaby Airways, it does not show me 6 slots, it shows me 5.

[mossy anvil]

check arena rewards

if cant coz of cd try cloud save

[fresh parrot]

maybe one of the monsters just covers up the 6th slot? right most one

[gloomy stag]

haha, that could be the case! I'll go give it another look

[zenith hare]

yeah one does cover it up

[gloomy stag]

That's true, I noticed it now. Feels big dumb

[fresh parrot]

lmao nw

[gloomy stag]

Now to watch some youtube videos to clear Dharma Mesa!

[gloomy stag]

Dharma Mesa beat, but nowhere close to having 1.5M of power, rip.

[dense fable]

god bless this guy, I talked about losing my Samurai due to bug, and he gave me one for free

[jade tree]

You guys can trade pets all my pets are untradabke

[dense fable]

only if you buy them with IRL money, then you can trade

[jade tree]

-.- f2p hate millions of users across every game all hate f2p people when will the hate end XD

[gray trench]

when time ceases to exist

[jade tree]

Im not f2p I’ve spent my money on some gems for storage chest size

[dense fable]

I bought pack which had blue gems and green gems together

and with green gems I rolled on some pets, those are tradeable

[gray trench]

you can earn gems so really the onlyway to be p2w is by getting the bundles

also its a single player game so its not really the same p2w as it would be on other games lol

[honest cradle]

I mean multiplayer with a single player mindset

[jade tree]

I would earn gems if my melee character couldn’t take damage against w2 boss XD

I need my defense stat up like a crazy person

[honest cradle]

Like runescape mentality

[crimson vigil]

only took a bit of time

[dense fable]

I don't feel P2W a problem in other games either

because those who pay money are andvanced in game, and you won't be put together in a match cause you are not that advanced in progress XD

[jade tree]

136d = 19 and a bit weeks

[gray trench]

lol ive played a few mmos where p2w was a very real thing and it genuinely ruined the games but with this one i dont see it lol

[jade tree]

RuneScape ruined it for me

[gray trench]

i heard runescape was really good but i never played it lol

[jade tree]

It isn’t you get locked out of a lot of main game content like good armour and some quests and whatnot unless you pay a subscription

[honest cradle]

Runescape is prob top 3 mmos ever made lmao

It's still top 3 most played

[gray trench]

thats partially due to venisuella using that game as fuel for their economy lol

[honest cradle]

It definitely starts woth a casual paying for a sub but you can sustain it woth in game currency and market

[jade tree]

Before I stopped playing I was using mithryl gear and killing cows

[rugged kiln]

Hey at least you wont need to farm scrubs for your 230 toons

[jade tree]

Honestly I’m glad this game hasn’t gone all out with needing to pay gems for basic stuff

I mean there is some things worth mentioning like the golden anvil, and a few more things

[honest cradle]

It's pay for advantage which is very similar to pay to win

[dense fable]

the progress through money is very very very satisfying, the developer had crazy ideas XD

it's like inventing gambling

[jade tree]

If I had more income I’d be buying gems all the time and maxxing out my storage chest space

[dense fable]

buy the best packs if you want to spend money

[jade tree]

Maybe not sure it’s in American though

The real price is when you buy it

So in game it says 20 but irl its more like 30 maybe

[dense fable]

hmmmm weird
I bought some packs and it was that price for me that it shows

[honest cradle]

I mean it doesn't show taxes

[dense fable]

example : I live in Europe, so have EURO currency
and a 20$ pack was around 18 euro for me

[jade tree]

My country doesn’t like American money right now

[dense fable]

which country is that ?

[jade tree]

Australia

Lemme jump on and ill tell you how much it is

[dense fable]

ah yeah, that just means other currency

[honest cradle]

Ah upside down land

[dense fable]

this is my currency

[devout birch]

what? why i cant claim chocolatey chip?

[jade tree]

Its like 10 extra dollars HaHa

[dense fable]

weird, maybe produce more of those cogs and it will work

[soft girder]

u have 200.1k of cogs, u need 200.2k cogs

[devout birch]

okay

[jade tree]

20 USD pack = A$ 30.62

[vital parrot]

Do collecting traps from drone don’t level up other characters trap

[jade tree]

Hangon you can collect traps with a drone?

What is this drone

[ember wing]

Construction unlock

[dense fable]

btw about storage@jade tree

[ember wing]

after cost cruncher top row

[dense fable]

I bought all of them and still struggle with storage

[crimson vigil]

whats the command for the merit shop priority list again

[jade tree]

Oh sweet im 5/10 on that one

[dense fable]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[crimson vigil]

ty

!merit4

[full beacon]

are you storing a lot of non stackables in your bank?

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[limpid bough]

3k stamp levels !!

[dense fable]

yes

[jade tree]

Oh 😦 I messed up I chose bowman instead of hunter

[dense fable]

because need them for craft

[full beacon]

just use char 8,9,10 for shit like hats and lucky lads

[jade tree]

Now I can’t get good traps

[dense fable]

good idea

[jade tree]

Can I respec my subclass?

[dense fable]

[jade tree]

Just like choose another one

[dense fable]

you got all 10 characer created already?

[jade tree]

6 out of 10

[dense fable]

I would say just wait for the 7. character and make it a hunter

push with all character monsters so you level up fast

my brother started the game 1 month ago, and has already all 10 character unlocked

the character respec is gems, so better keep the gems

[jade tree]

How much and where do I buy it from

[dense fable]

imo it's not worth it, farm for 1-2 days with all characters the monsters, even use candies
and you get the level req for 7. character create

[jade tree]

Already got my 7th now

Its just making its way to the subclass dude

Well to the class dude

[dense fable]

send me a pic with your character btw like this :

[molten panther]

does anyone know what happened to my smithy

[dense fable]

to check if you are doing the classes good XD

[dense fable]

have you bought packs in the game before?

[molten panther]

nope

i was unlocking sets on release date

[dense fable]

then you gotta wait 3 weeks to unlock it
if it was unlocked for you, it was just a bug, the bug was fixed

[molten panther]

but now it just says that

ah okay ty

[tulip ravine]

when does no bubble left behind proc? Do I have to keep it lit up for 24hrs, or only at daily reset, or is it just first time each day it's turned on, or ?

[dense fable]

first time you log in ( after a daily reset )

[dense fable]

uff, you gotta buy some character respec if you want a smooth gameplay in the future

[tulip ravine]

so does that mean I need to leave them in before reset to get it to proc?

[dense fable]

you don't have to do anything about "no bubble left behind" it just happens

[tulip ravine]

surely it needs to be lit up in lab?

[dense fable]

this is an ideal endgame character build
the 2 SIege breaker can be even be ---> 1 Siege Breaker and 2 Blood Berserker

You have 3 Barbarian now ( they will be the Blood Berserker later, so if you swap one barbarian to Squire, then you are good )

[dense fable]

ah you are talking about that, yeah the lab must be working when you log in

so leave the game while that Lab node is active

[tulip ravine]

all right, thanks. I'll start doing that in the future. Only just now turned it on and didn't think it did anything

[dense fable]

if it's possible, you should keep active all the nodes in the lab

all the important ones

this is mine XD

[tulip ravine]

yeah, I only just unlocked W4, so my guys don't have the levels to do much yet. Working on it rn, so eventually I won't need almost my whole team just to get no bubble left behind haha

[dense fable]

later on ( W5 ), they can be active in the Lab system even if they are not working at the lab

[jade tree]

kinda sucks that youre stuck with 10 characters and each one has to have a diffeent name

[dense fable]

yeah XD

[tulip ravine]

oooooh good to know. it's killing me to not send them all out on other quests rn haha

I def don't have the gear to push to W5 yet. Managed to get to W4 with only one guy in amarok armor and the others in very questionable gear lol

[dense fable]

keep in mind to follow this guide about character, if you want a smooth gameplay in the future :@jade tree
( in your case, 2 barbarian = 2 Blood Berserker ----> you will have only 1 Siege breaker ---> one barbarian should get respec to Squire = Divinte Knight )

[tulip ravine]

Time to catch up on stuff before pushing more

[dense fable]

here are the classes and evolutions ( they are under eachother )

[jade tree]

i was gonna make one of my barbs a class thats good for fishing only

[dense fable]

I have only 1 barbarian, he manages my fishing printing ( W3 )
other than that he is just fighting

[tulip ravine]

you get two talent presets so no reason not to have both fishing and fighting on one guy

[dense fable]

later on, nobody works, cause a 3D printer makes the materials

this video can explain to you, why is it important : @jade treehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZWmzWC1_W4

if you don't follow this pattern, you will meet some issues later on

[zenith hare]

this has been bad for a while

2 sb is really bad

like really bad

[dense fable]

2 DB is the way?

[zenith hare]

2db or hold as beginner, but yeah imo 2db

[rugged kiln]

2 SB sounds silly

[dense fable]

I got 2 SB cause people told me here on chat that it's a must

[rugged kiln]

Yeah you got trolled

[zenith hare]

since hole release its been bad

thats been ab 10 months now

[rugged kiln]

Why is it bad since hole?

Was it better before hole released?

[zenith hare]

the only use for sb was forge

[rugged kiln]

Ohhhh thats right

[zenith hare]

hole kinda made that use, useless

[rugged kiln]

I remember seeing people talk about it now, yeah hole made 2 sb kinda ass

[zenith hare]

im stuck with 2 sb too

it sucks

[rugged kiln]

That and not having all masterclasses released is why toons 8, 9, 10 are staying as their base classes, scared that i’m gonna fuck myself up bad

[zenith hare]

nah 8 is very fine to be dk

[dense fable]

if a good masterclass come for SB, can we get holy bless?

[livid jasper]

Is catching a larger number of creatures that need to be sampled compared to fishing?

[zenith hare]

9 and 10 is fair

[zenith hare]

just cause a good master class comes, doesnt mean its good to have 2

bubo is insane, its bad to have 2

[dense fable]

I mean, it's good to have 2 DB

[rugged kiln]

Actually yeah forgot 2 dk exists for a sec lol 9 and 10 are staying wizard and archer or whatever

[zenith hare]

2 db will always have a use

due to afk bones

but db is THE afk class

always has been

[rugged kiln]

I wonder how WW will function with afk, wonder if lava will just reuse the charred bone function and just make it like a different sprited aethermoon

[zenith hare]

he wont likely

db has always been said to be afk, ww has never said itll get it

[rugged kiln]

Oh I thought he was gonna release the afk stuff with the next masterclass and give afk to the previous one, guess not tho

[zenith hare]

nah, ruins the purpose of it all

and its not like we dont have to choose who to active daily anyways

[rugged kiln]

True, WW is boring to me but I have to do it eventually

[zenith hare]

dk for crystals, es for mob mats, sb for dr, bubo for alch

cant do all at once

[rugged kiln]

Yeah

[muted iris]

Anyone want to help me with world 1 dungeon in key server 10

[honest cradle]

I feel scammed

If it was known since 10 months ago 2 sb is bad y was I told by every person I asked to go 2 sb

[dense fable]

same

I asked this question maybe 1 month ago
and the whole gang on 3 different chats told me to make 2 SB

and argued very very very hard why 2 SB and not 2 DB

and they won me over with their aggresive argue to make 2 SB

[zenith hare]

i def remember saying otherwise

[dense fable]

yeah, I remember you, but didn't know the community yet, I was a beginner and many people argued against you

[zenith hare]

its cause a lot of people only stick with what theyre used to

and refuse to change their opinions

[exotic swallow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1220429448546091068/1241674429399044188/caption.gif?=&width=255&height=331

sometimes their opinions are right tho

[zenith hare]

rarely

and theyre only right for long standing "meta's"

[exotic swallow]

meta changes here and there anyway

no one is right at this point

[honest cradle]

I mean my comeback was 3 months ago I dont remember who said what but I know a large majority said 2 sb

[exotic swallow]

people call it stable meta or whatever

[zenith hare]

it's cause afk bones wasn't a thing yet

even though it was obvious no matter how it was done it'd be useful

[exotic swallow]

its cause no masterclass was a thing yet

just like rn, not all have been released

[sturdy totem]

I like 2 sb because I like symmetry and 4 warriors is not good symmetry

[zenith hare]

gotta love how the "stable meta" argument falls apart by just 1 thing

char 11 and 12

[white lintel]

Shhhhhhh

They don’t exist

[exotic swallow]

just class reset 🥱

[zenith hare]

and yeah lava wants to add char resets at some point

[dense fable]

fr, just put in the shop for some gems the class reset

or a "delete character" button

[sturdy totem]

If char 11 comes out then you can have 2 DB and 2 SB? I fail to see the problem there lmao

[zenith hare]

deleting chars have proven to fuck up ur account

[honest cradle]

I vote for delete

[zenith hare]

the fact that 2 sb is useless

[white path]

I remember Lava saying something like 1 per char per account or something

[exotic swallow]

nah, not for poor people.

only in a 20$ bundle 👅

[dense fable]

I would delete all the work on a character if it's a huge problem his class

[honest cradle]

Just update and figure out e z for dev

[zenith hare]

even back then, 2sb was worse then 2bm

[white lintel]

Why was 2BM useful?

[zenith hare]

more useful then sb

[honest cradle]

db was already out

[white lintel]

yea, why?

[sturdy totem]

"Why was it useful?"
"Because it was more useful"

[exotic swallow]

2 sbs were still a thing before all that

[zenith hare]

it has afk use that sb cant do

sb could only do forge or flies

[white lintel]

and bm can do what

spit it out man

[exotic swallow]

be freaky and all that

[honest cradle]

bm can get me more eggs?

Or was it shiny levels?

[sturdy totem]

Not afk they can't

[zenith hare]

tbh im listening to sgf

[dense fable]

trap your cat irl

[white lintel]

DK for eggs

[zenith hare]

also yeah it can for afk

the talent

but tbh thats a minor impact

still more of an impact then sb

[honest cradle]

idk im just listing things I know bm can actually do

[sturdy totem]

In that vein what's the logic behind 2 ES over 2 Bubo

[zenith hare]

the second god link

[dense fable]

also if we are talking about this
why did I have to make 2 ES?

tell me the benefit

[sturdy totem]

Useless with doot

[zenith hare]

and the family talent working better on char

[white lintel]

ES has better log prints over bubo

[dense fable]

yeah, I got doot

[zenith hare]

like if you go on es, youll notice you have higher talent level then other chars

[sturdy totem]

Then by that logic 2 SB has better fly prints than 2 BM

[zenith hare]

problem there is fly prints are useless

breeding levels have use

[honest cradle]

Anyway, if char reset/delete happens my duplicates besides my dk is gonna go away. I said this a few weeks ago but I regret making the es and sb lmao

[sturdy totem]

But like... Compared to vman, bm's mob prints are useless-er

[dense fable]

btw I would do more mob drop printing than flies

[zenith hare]

no one said bm can ONLY monster print

it can do any print, and end of the day its still an archer

it can still print flies semi well

[sturdy totem]

It'll print everything worse than everyone else

[zenith hare]

(not like you need them)

[zenith hare]

its the refinery upkeep char for a reason

having 2 is great

[honest cradle]

ww is nice bc it gives lots of class xp

And stealth

[zenith hare]

we're talking without master classes in argument

[honest cradle]

o f lmao

[zenith hare]

otherwise it just falls flat to "sb could be better"

[sturdy totem]

ye

[sturdy totem]

At a certain level it's completely useless tho because it'll take just 1h of print to get to 1050M refinery prints

[zenith hare]

more use then flies

(also flies falls to same argument)

[honest cradle]

I wish I had prints like that

[dense fable]

I have all my flies maxed out
but the monster drops for vials as example are still waiting

[honest cradle]

lol

[misty basin]

Just unlocked the atom collider when will it start making atoms?

[sturdy totem]

You can candy click bug bubbles

[zenith hare]

yeah and you do that on ur best char

aka the first sb

why would you candy click on second sb

[sturdy totem]

Sorry not candy, hourly

[zenith hare]

can still do that on first sb

[sturdy totem]

4 different bug bubbles per hour

[honest cradle]

this mama troll really doesnt want to drop its cards

Its bean a while

[zenith hare]

and name 4 useful bubbles that costs flies

[sturdy totem]

Over mov mats that aren't really used beyond the one for construct exp and the green mush cap

[zenith hare]

fmj

uhhhhhh......cant think of any other linearly scaling bubble

[sturdy totem]

fmj in endgame?

[zenith hare]

doggies in hole

and candy clicking is only for linear bubbles or to get bubbles to 99%

hourly*

[honest cradle]

I think I get diabolical set done then I do a speedrun for prints

Should be nice

[dense fable]

I am far away from hourly clicking, but monster materials are keeping me from progressing
flies are useless in early-mid game as I feel

[zenith hare]

active ES helps

and yeah flies are pretty bad early on

[dense fable]

yes, but I gotta do active DK too XD
I am on onyx journey

[honest cradle]

if you need mats just get more daamge and run active es

[zenith hare]

yeah that's the problem with activing~

[dense fable]

so printing is a better solution, cause ES can't be always active

[zenith hare]

vman go brrr

[sturdy totem]

idk I personally think more forge claims and better anvil is worth having 2 sb

To me personally

[zenith hare]

ah yes more forge claims for the 1 forge claim i need to eat all my gshard

forge cap is insanely high nowadays

and the anvil on bm is the same as sb

[sturdy totem]

Yeah then you claim your afk times until someone procs 3d print omniphau or you go on vman and use the print talent once to get it back up

[honest cradle]

my forge cap is not

[zenith hare]

my forge cap is at like 250m or sum shite

[honest cradle]

mine is like 350k

[zenith hare]

given even at 50m it eats the entire stack in 2 claims (1st sb and ww)

[rare prism]

arena update; 2hr10min later

[honest cradle]

y did that take 2 hours

[zenith hare]

mono

[zenith hare]

10 rounds to go, then turn off auto and let yourself die when it shows round 126

[honest cradle]

idr what I ran but I remember it being way faster to 175

[zenith hare]

its cause mono in a 4 pet team

[dense fable]

if I have low forge cap, my SB can't be that productive ?

[rare prism]

sweet sweet release

[zenith hare]

it can be, not saying it isnt. but if ur forge cap is low youre not in desperate need for bars

forge claiming is only really for maxing vials

[honest cradle]

I mean I just sat on mushrooms and clicked one hour candies for my first gshard weapon

[zenith hare]

every other use is very easy to get naturally

[honest cradle]

It adds up

[dense fable]

yeah, I am working on that but it generates slowly

[vague viper]

Just get more cap theres no rush you can get up to +100M cap easy in The end

[night oracle]

Huge daily bubbles

[honest cradle]

O you know why a 2nd bm is nicer than 2 sb

[night oracle]

+2 diamond chef

[honest cradle]

You can get a specialty class for all the fishes prints

I win

[zenith hare]

bm isn't for fishes

but yes that's another win for second bb/db

[honest cradle]

bb lmao

I messued up my abbreviations

[random pollen]

Tbh double db just keeps winning

[honest cradle]

Well gg I give in

[night oracle]

But don't go 2 bb and 2 dk

[sturdy totem]

rip

[zenith hare]

no??

[night oracle]

😭

[zenith hare]

2 bb and 2 dk is current meta

[night oracle]

Nahhhh

[random pollen]

Tough thats exactly what i have 2dk2db

[zenith hare]

2 dk for endgame construction scaling

and 2 db is quite literally just an upgrade to 2nd sb

[random pollen]

Grimoire has better raw stat buffs than compass even, so double afk wins hard

[sturdy totem]

See the only reason I don't go 2 DB is because 2 DK is basically a must and I don't want to break the symmetry of 3 per class

[zenith hare]

the db does everything sb can do, but more

[random pollen]

Totally valid

[zenith hare]

that's fair dw

[sturdy totem]

You'd be crazy to keep the symmetry by going 1 DK 💀

[zenith hare]

ocd go brrr

[sturdy totem]

Indeed

[zenith hare]

but atp 2 vman is better then 2 sb

[honest cradle]

is it me or is helium insane?

[dense fable]

I will never forgive those who convinced me to make 2 SB

[zenith hare]

same

[sturdy totem]

Don't beat yourself up over it

It's not like you're a 10 vman account

[zenith hare]

I'm stuck with it. been stuck with it for 2 years now.

[rare prism]

is it really that bad?

[night oracle]

Watch the master class be dope

[zenith hare]

yes

I can't remember the last time I used it for what sb can do

it's always been afk shite or smth any class can do

[honest cradle]

Whats he gonna be next tho, its already a pirate

[zenith hare]

tends to be both

[zenith hare]

likely es

[honest cradle]

I meant sb class

[zenith hare]

look at the orb thing

mayheim is his name btw

[night oracle]

What is with the stupid combs
Give some damn gloves

[sturdy totem]

Sb does get best afk kills at gmush iirc

[zenith hare]

so...mh? ig

[zenith hare]

nope

bb is 20% better

if all stats and gear is equal

(this was tested pre master class)

[white lintel]

no

[night oracle]

[sturdy totem]

Yeah but before db you would be ladling with bb

[zenith hare]

no

[sturdy totem]

Wym no

[zenith hare]

never afk cook with bb basically

minus for the equinox

[white lintel]

afk bones is too good

[zenith hare]

even without bones

[sturdy totem]

I'm talking pre-db

I thought that was the whole point of having 2 bb was either 2x ladles or one on ladles and the other doing the chows

[zenith hare]

at most you'd do one day a month

as you spend 1 ladle on all meals at most

[sturdy totem]

Or at least that was the advertised benefit over 2 sb

[white lintel]

pre DB you wont have like any ladle gen so still not worth

[zenith hare]

more is just a waste

[zenith hare]

before afk bones existed

that's what they mean

[white lintel]

ahh ok

[zenith hare]

smh

[sturdy totem]

before the master class existed yeah

[white lintel]

im doing 2 other things rn man

[zenith hare]

I'm doing 3, watching sgf, taking care of drugged up cat, and typing here

[honest cradle]

Man stuff is getting so expensive I am seeing scientific notation

[night oracle]

Uh? Nice achievement I guess?

[sturdy totem]

This feels wrong tho

[night oracle]

Imagine qqqq

[white lintel]

skong mentioned at summer games fest

[zenith hare]

it's just using more then 10 ladles per meal is a waste

[zenith hare]

that's the appearance everyone's talking ab, no more

[night oracle]

oh... Did I mess up? I kinda forgot

[sturdy totem]

felt like everywhere I went online people touting 2 bbs were mostly saying because it's versatile and you can get more ladles

[honest cradle]

I just use the amount I get when I claim

[zenith hare]

and it's really really easy to get enough ladles

[honest cradle]

I am way too lazy

And I only have ladles to claim when I am unlocking a new meal

[zenith hare]

it is versatile yeah..but the cooking wasn't the main part

[night oracle]

Nvm I only got these 2, W minecraft gem

[zenith hare]

it's...there

[sturdy totem]

The main part then being ? Just the more kills?

[zenith hare]

fish prints, afk kills, better pusher, better afk monster mat grinder (rare or otherwise), and a few others

[honest cradle]

Hm should I ribbon cherry or wait for marshmallow

[zenith hare]

don't do either as it's the same multi

[random pollen]

Db is an effective kph farmer, double grimoire progress, double fish progress

[soft girder]

man gweapon requires lvl 525 is so stupid

[honest cradle]

but I want to be sonic

[white lintel]

not rly

[zenith hare]

emp hat is 650

[soft girder]

i cant equip it on my db

and lvling him is super slow

[white lintel]

mfw sam guard crystal farm

[zenith hare]

it's slow if you don't do crystal build + moonmen

[sturdy totem]

Are fish prints that much more useful than fly prints

[random pollen]

Mfw weapon has little impact on exp/hr

[sturdy totem]

Genuine question cause I haven't thought that out yet

[soft girder]

i do crysral build

[white lintel]

not rly

[honest cradle]

Is cauliflower the only thing that boosts attack speed that isnt an equip?

[random pollen]

I wouldnt say fly or fish is better but the early easy shaquracy was incredible

[zenith hare]

its not useful in itself, but you need 11 types of fish overall. and can only have 10

[white lintel]

bubble

[random pollen]

I literally never had acc issues, ever

[zenith hare]

per char

[honest cradle]

You remember what color?

[zenith hare]

flies has 2 bm to do the junk fly prints on, bb doesnt

[random pollen]

Second half of bm prints *

[zenith hare]

yeah

[random pollen]

Ye