midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[river spruce]

too hard to farm all the materials i would need to make the gear. yes.

[white lintel]

Shouldn’t you already have all the materials?

[native forge]

i wonder if your dense water is costing 1 today

[river spruce]

Why would i have the materials?

[abstract mauve]

i c i c ty all

[white lintel]

In storage?

[river spruce]

Dont have the materials

[white lintel]

Aren’t you pushing for Div scarf rn?

[river spruce]

No

Im farming Drop rate obols and pushing portals

[native forge]

was it the task of killing nightmare kruk on 10 ppl ,and it's the last?

[white lintel]

Why are you doing 10th character nm kruk

[fossil kayak]

Give them Amarok and call it a day

[thorny zinc]

hi zebra

[river spruce]

Because ive never killed him before. figured id give it a shot for the card

[white lintel]

But why on the last character??

[thorny zinc]

idleon hardcore mode

[white lintel]

Why not on a not neglected toon like DK or ES?

[river spruce]

Cause somehow hes one of my highest lvls. figured ES does big damn

[thorny zinc]

💀

how is your last character highest lvl

[river spruce]

could use my DK but hes doing divinity rn

[limpid bough]

😭

[white lintel]

Would take like no time at all

[river spruce]

Because hes my farmer so more kills. other guys are doing stuff like lab/divinity/etc

[limpid bough]

dementia set bonus just gives you dementia

[river spruce]

Maybe. I would be surprised if my DK does more dmg. but i suppose its not impossible

ill try it out next time i do this boss

[white lintel]

Why not use your first ES?

[river spruce]

My 2nd ES is higher lvl

[lusty bay]

is power cap how high the power per cycle can be? if so what level is approx needed for power cap 20kx

[white lintel]

Shouldn’t it have better dmg?

[thorny zinc]

[river spruce]

It was doing Divinity. so i was farming with my 2nd ES. then my 2nd ES got more lvls due to farming

[fossil kayak]

Power cap is how much it takes to fill the bar. 20Kx is your 1M

[lusty bay]

im contemplating if i should stop ranking them up and put em on 10% now to get the vials to max

[lusty bay]

ohhh

[thorny zinc]

never stop ranking red

[white lintel]

Kinda

[thorny zinc]

and green ofc

[lusty bay]

butgetting 1m per claim with however many hours it takes takes too long to max the vials?

[native forge]

Rushes to library with bubo

[pulsar girder]

i already had 200 for tentacleye, is bubo the biggest winner here

[fossil kayak]

I plan to max the vials when I hit rank 1000

[white lintel]

When you get into the thousands you can consider stopping so you’d not need to rank up 1k times to hit lvl 13 vial

[thorny zinc]

holly

[native forge]

vman marrow ,and other stuff first ,like archlord of pirates ,too

[lusty bay]

red 0-100 takes 6 hours and yellow takes 15 hours for me, taking elephant higher than those numbers would waste soo much salt tho

[river spruce]

I think i need to work on my refine speed. mine takes days

[lusty bay]

both rank and speed affect how long it takes to max, youll get there eventually

[fossil kayak]

Do you have Doot?

[river spruce]

no 😦 i wish i did man. i wish i did

[thorny zinc]

also the best way to get refinery speed is construction mastery

[lusty bay]

doots not rll important anymore for anything

[fossil kayak]

Then I would recommend linking with Omnipathu in the Caverns.

[river spruce]

Whats that? sorry it may say w6 but ima noob

[fossil kayak]

Will help your refinery

[river spruce]

Yeah. Working on divinity right now. so i dont even have that god yet

[river spruce]

ty

[thorny zinc]

you unlock it in rift and gives bonuses based on total building levels

[river spruce]

What does TOT Lv mean

[fossil kayak]

Defo use them when you do unlock

[mossy anvil]

sum of your levels

[fossil kayak]

Total Level of your Buildings

[river spruce]

Copy

Do i just leave this boss battle? Or afk for the next 10 hrs?

[lusty bay]

if it takes 6 hours for me to complete a red cycle i need 6000 refinery hours 💀 yea no ill continue to rank em up

[fossil kayak]

Which boss?

[thorny zinc]

kruk

[fossil kayak]

Leave

[river spruce]

copy. -70 keys

[thorny zinc]

10h for kruk is crazy

[river spruce]

For real

heres the update

[royal nexus]

why isnt Eggshell in the 6-pet comp?

[white path]

get more damage

[fossil kayak]

Kruk keys are easy to come by later

[thorny zinc]

because it has 5 pets?

[native forge]

uhh, have damage cards ? atleast you can change them here, no ?

[thorny zinc]

oh you mean the pet

[fossil kayak]

Because defender does the work of keeping your pets alive in that setup. Also, looter can proc eggshell randomly.

[thorny zinc]

god im dumb lmao

[limpid bough]

I hate refinery grrrrrrrr

[thorny zinc]

also zebra do you have enough accuracy? you def need accuracy if you are here

[fossil kayak]

Maybe

[thorny zinc]

yeah def not enough for gmushes

[mossy anvil]

i need accuracy

[thorny zinc]

here take this fix your accuracy noob

[mossy anvil]

new format

[fossil kayak]

Alright, one second

[thorny zinc]

oh no

[mossy anvil]

still no keychain smh

[thorny zinc]

AND CHIP

i forgot about those

[white path]

theres a spelling mistake

[thorny zinc]

oh right

thx for telling me

[fossil kayak]

Much better

[limpid bough]

all stat% also gives accuracy

[fossil kayak]

[thorny zinc]

not E number? hmm the goat follkey had more

[fossil kayak]

indeed he did

[thorny zinc]

cant hit that gmush sorry zebra

but you breed them so its okay

[mossy anvil]

am i tripping or on some maps poison tower do more dmg and on some less

[thorny zinc]

💀

[honest cradle]

Should I bother to now do a reprint for bugs

[fossil kayak]

Like the visual dmg? Or you see the mobs dying faster?

[thorny zinc]

why you want to print bugs lava cant fix them all if they are too many

[mossy anvil]

like dmg numbers on tower

alr i think i know why

some setups use different paty tower setups that give dmg

[fossil kayak]

That shouldn't be the case no, but that number does go up the longer you are in a round because of Equinox

That too

[fossil kayak]

Depends, why do you want to do a reprint now?

[polar geyser]

my first bow

out of interest, do you lot even have rings or bows from the regular game on your windwalker anymore even outside of tempest?

or do you just keep him perma in tempest anyway

also 10 more to go til tab 4

we got big progress today

[fossil kayak]

Keep your normal set, there are times you will want to run your WW out of tempest mode. Killroy rooms and class exp/shiny farming come to mind.

[polar geyser]

okay okay

[fossil kayak]

First tab of my inventory is a mess lol

[polar geyser]

i only got these 3 and the third is 1 row so i gotta make sure i keep it organised

also why have you still got the candles, they cant be used anymore no?

[fossil kayak]

Greenstack

[polar geyser]

you can still gain them?

[night oracle]

Vrumby go brrrrrrr

[fossil kayak]

Make sure to do your quests for bags and buy the ones from the world shops.

[honest cradle]

much more eff, multi res upped a lot

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[fossil kayak]

W6 samurai drop them.

[polar geyser]

ohhhhh, interesting

[fossil kayak]

Then yeah. Do house keeping stuff like PO boxes, tools, equipment, etc to make it worth your while.

[full beacon]

jake about to pass me in tempest form

[polar geyser]

im on my way

unless i keep dying to the spike traps in carrots the second i look away to reply to something

[full beacon]

lmaooooo

well if you get to crab cakes in w2 you will have passed me

I did a bit during launch week but haven't touched since

[polar geyser]

this is twice now that ive looked across to discord and this mofo has run from the bottom of the map to the spikes and just stood in them didnt even move

[polar geyser]

i wanna work on it for things like the class exp ngl

among the other bonuses ofc

[full beacon]

probably a good idea

I just got too many other things to active

[mossy anvil]

damn gmalala yellow colour fits u better 💀

i got used to it

[full beacon]

hahaha

wait what is yellow from again

just bandit bob?

[mossy anvil]

#costume-closet u can change colors here aswell

[white path]

u need to take the grumblo off to get it back

[full beacon]

I like grumblo tho

[white path]

theres the xp one too

[mossy anvil]

[white path]

[full beacon]

I didn't even figure out costume closet is a thing until like 2 hours ago

[honest cradle]

Also got a lot of ol reliables since last printing

I should huh, but doing wood then ore then bugs seems like a lot

[polar geyser]

oh gmalala, i also have afk bones on db too so i can work on both classes at the same time

[full beacon]

oh yea you passed me on db for sure then

I did db for like 15 minutes

[polar geyser]

i mean i only unlocked db like 36 hours ago i think

[full beacon]

[polar geyser]

well youre still ahead of me everywhere else lmao

[full beacon]

yea I figure it's w6 stuff so not really neglect

[polar geyser]

but i will catch that eventually too

[full beacon]

just haven't gotten there yet

[polar geyser]

i got my db pushing w6 so i can work on cards, and then afk bones plus activing the ww, hopefully if i start getting those up itll make going back a little quicker again

and i have everyone else almost or at 300 and back in div jail

[full beacon]

[polar geyser]

dk is 1 off 300 and es is 5 off so not long to goooo

[full beacon]

guessing you didn't hit a lock yet then

[polar geyser]

a lockkkk?

[full beacon]

oh wait

woodlin spirits

[honest cradle]

there is the first lock like 3 areas in

[polar geyser]

ahhhh yeah i hit woodlin atm

[full beacon]

make sure you talk to that npc and get that started

it doesn't retroactively count

[polar geyser]

okay bet bet

[honest cradle]

also a lot of gfood

[polar geyser]

ohhhh this dude

[full beacon]

yea hahaha

you gonna have to redo the 400k kills or whatever

[polar geyser]

ahhh thats alright like just over a day of kills

[full beacon]

it's not that bad but yea, I figured it out on accident too

[polar geyser]

i appreciate you saving me the time of killing for a week before realising

[full beacon]

[polar geyser]

also im coming for those cakes

[zenith hare]

you can skip aboms btw

you can still unlock the next portal

[polar geyser]

yeeeee im not in a position to move on yet i dont think so just killing abom and then going back to go for giga frogs for a little

these stats told me that but since im here may aswell finish off the abom

[honest cradle]

wuts the thing that makes multi res max 600 not 300?

[thorny zinc]

hole green upgrade

[obtuse loom]

how can i farm power statues for onyx statue quest?

[white path]

crystal farm at beans

[honest cradle]

idk what green upgrade means but if its the hole I can find it

[polar geyser]

and another one bites the dust

[thorny zinc]

on this page

[obtuse loom]

thanks alot

[polar geyser]

well time to go back and get the others

[thorny zinc]

anything for gragas

https://tenor.com/view/gragas-dance-league-of-legends-psychological-horror-gif-17197025412024608449

[honest cradle]

AH my conjuror is low level, dang

[mossy anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/gragas-bomba-meme-gif-4344640530354011437

[honest cradle]

I dont think he looks like that anymore

[mossy anvil]

arono man, who plays lol in 2025

[thorny zinc]

he does iirc

[mossy anvil]

[honest cradle]

I assume its still the most or one of the most played games in the world

[thorny zinc]

BUT i heard there is kda gragas 😭

[mossy anvil]

probably

[thorny zinc]

sadly

[honest cradle]

my interest stopped around s6

[mossy anvil]

i stopped somewhere around s2-s3

[full beacon]

yo idk if anyone knows but can you go past your mainworld location in tempest form???

like let's say you have lock on doggies still

[honest cradle]

No idea I would assume so

[full beacon]

can you just breeze past as WW

[honest cradle]

I got talked into playing the game in s3

[mossy anvil]

even if u can it would take longer than normal pushing i think

[full beacon]

😂

[mossy anvil]

wave 170 cans comming to end, that was pretty quick one

[true hamlet]

perfect, and I don't even have a sammy

[thorny zinc]

lmao

did you reset the boss?

[true hamlet]

nah

[thorny zinc]

then how

[zenith hare]

does resetting the boss removes the bonuses?

[true hamlet]

idk man

[thorny zinc]

yes

[zenith hare]

smh

[true hamlet]

oh well

[thorny zinc]

lmao nut hat

[true hamlet]

I think I can reach m3 today , +5 talents (378 -> 383)

[mossy anvil]

that needs to be patched tbh, its so stupid

[polar geyser]

okay i may have messed up a little, i just unlocked a new string on harp having never touched harp, and reset 18000% harp power, idk how annoying that is overall but thought id share

[mossy anvil]

harp power rise up overtime, after its 100% u can click harps to gain notes

[true hamlet]

holy crap did dragon warrior level 100 take forever with my puny stats

[mossy anvil]

and it resets back to 0

[zenith hare]

why is afk gains there???

[true hamlet]

honestly no clue

the trapping wiki is also kinda short

[zenith hare]

and even if it was afk gains, the ww robe is better

[white path]

my guess is he swapped the stats of a xp hat and forgot

[polar geyser]

i see, so 18,000% is quite a bit to waste

[true hamlet]

real

[zenith hare]

trophy

[white path]

oh i'm stupid

[zenith hare]

the afk trophy takes prio over the skill xp one...for some reason

[thorny zinc]

idk i dont have that trophy so i will use the xp one

i want to start going for trapping lvl 120

[true hamlet]

most of my guys are only 104 trapping iirc

we've been slacking hard

[thorny zinc]

mine are 99 or 100

[full beacon]

why don't you have the trophy smh

[white path]

I have all my chars at trapping 120+ but i don't have godshard bars and i'm too lazy to get some

[thorny zinc]

do you have gs skulls?

[true hamlet]

still not enough salt

[thorny zinc]

damn i crafted my first one today

[polar geyser]

nugget

[true hamlet]

I was thinking of shutting off synthesis

[mossy anvil]

indeed its a nugget

[thorny zinc]

tbh i was thinking the same

idk if its worth it tho

[true hamlet]

this is my salt situation

nullo has been off for ages

[zenith hare]

mine are 110 or so, minus vman

[polar geyser]

oh wait i didnt have fan unlocked whoops

[thorny zinc]

holly you have a lot

[thorny zinc]

oh you only went for vman?

[true hamlet]

I've just been letting it do its thing in the background

[zenith hare]

more the fact everyone else takes ages

as vman has 90% xp done for free

[thorny zinc]

makes sense wow i thought you would have 120 alr..

[true hamlet]

crystal countdown moment

[zenith hare]

i dont active trapping

[true hamlet]

most people would rather do trapping for bubbles etc.

[zenith hare]

i have the best auto trap setup

[full beacon]

the hell is active trapping

[zenith hare]

20 min claims

[true hamlet]

short claims

[full beacon]

ah

[true hamlet]

how much faster is it though?

[full beacon]

thought I'm missing an entire part of the game for a sec

[zenith hare]

2/3x

[thorny zinc]

hm

[true hamlet]

I see

[thorny zinc]

time to do 20m claims then

[pure swan]

what class is good for pushing mid/late w3

[thorny zinc]

will be a pain

[zenith hare]

everyone as everyone needs to push

[pure swan]

not w6, w3, oops

[zenith hare]

better

active hunter or afk barb

[honest cradle]

Well I did bugs too

Nice improvement

[river spruce]

Great. Somehow my drop rate went down like 1x and i have no idea what caused it xD

[true hamlet]

prayers, cards, obols

[river spruce]

Yeah. None of those changed. Also does the DR totem not show up on ur stats page? cause i dropped it and it didnt go up

[true hamlet]

totem?

[full beacon]

shrine

[river spruce]

yeah shrine sorry

[true hamlet]

it does show up

[daring kiln]

I'm trying to plan for my 8th character would be a good idea to go for another squire

[true hamlet]

do you have Moai Head artifact?

[river spruce]

Yes i do

Makes sense

[worldly galleon]

guys should I rush w5 or get everything I need with time on w4 and the before worlds?

[full beacon]

yea rush to 6 so you can do all the 5 and 6 stuff very minimally like once a day

(at least)

[worldly galleon]

any tips to rush fast?

[river spruce]

if u have a weak mental i reccommend taking ur time.

like myself.

[full beacon]

candy

assuming you have ok kph

[worldly galleon]

dont have enough candy

[true hamlet]

just wait for event

[worldly galleon]

atm like that on the chocolates

[full beacon]

how many needed for that gate, I forget

[worldly galleon]

120k

[full beacon]

[worldly galleon]

and its only at 3k bc i have all my other chars on the lab to get the bonus to 2x the kills

[full beacon]

nw

rush don't necessarily means like get it within 1 day

just basically make it your main goal

[worldly galleon]

the dk is always grinding

[full beacon]

oh that pic is dk?

you need more acc

[worldly galleon]

like is it worth it to make w4 weapons to the other chars or just wait until w5

[river spruce]

Welp. Lost Drop rate. That really sucks man. Been working on it for the last 3 days

[worldly galleon]

more acc? why?

[full beacon]

that's how squire dps works, if you wanna reach to new damage tier for better multikill

[worldly galleon]

how can I get more acc?

[full beacon]

@thorny zinc

you've been summoned

[worldly galleon]

ye im cooked

[sturdy totem]

How much did you lose?

[river spruce]

about 1x or so. which is a decent amount for me xD

[mossy anvil]

but how did u loose it

[sturdy totem]

Whenever someone loses drop rate this is the list they have to go through to figure out what happened:

• Did you change equipment, cards, obols, prayers, star signs?
• Did you change talent presets (archers' dr talent, weekly battle talent, siege breaker talent, jman talent)
• Did your weekly battles reset and you lost DR from your boss battle spillover star talent
• Did you remove golden food
• Did you change guilds
• Did your luck stat drop
• Did you move to a map/world where your luck shrine bonus doesn't affect your character anymore

[full beacon]

sb is a good guess

[river spruce]

No idea. Thats what im trying to figure out

[worldly galleon]

so I want max acc on all my chars to maxize dmg or its only on my dk?

[river spruce]

?

[full beacon]

just dk, and not max

just need 150% of the map's requirement

[true hamlet]

Siege breaker archlord talent

[cloud turtle]

tbh you're at the sort of tipping point in progress for accuracy. Usually from mid-w4 onwards, accuracy starts to scale loads even if you're completely ignoring it. So part of this is just progressing more, especially in alchemy, stamps, cooking, etc

[full beacon]

the DR talent in SB talent page

[worldly galleon]

how do I know im at 150% of the requirement?

[full beacon]

if you had it only on one preset and logged out on the other preset

[worldly galleon]

oh thanks thats nice

[true hamlet]

yes I do love accuracy increasing for doing absolutely nothing

[lilac plover]

any point in idling in ww tempest form?

[worldly galleon]

so rn im good

[sturdy totem]

try to go through the list I just sent you

[odd wolf]

anyone got pointers for w3 dungeon? i wanna solo glaxius 3 times for equinox, i tried blind but seemed kinda ard to get more than 2 boss kills.
How much should i focus job? is it way easier in group?

[polar geyser]

ooooo you updated it with the new update

[river spruce]

It was the DR from the SB. Thank you though ❤️

[mossy anvil]

Cards or SB talent

[polar geyser]

[river spruce]

Ty. You are a legend.

[thorny zinc]

yeah but i need to fix some mistakes

[river spruce]

SB

[full beacon]

after satisfying that acc requirement you can start stacking more dmg to move up dmg tiers

[polar geyser]

looking good though

[cloud turtle]

honestly, what I would do is get your main catcher sampling flies, print em, and throw some at the fly vial. Do that, all the accuracy stamps (won't take very long since you're limited by inventory space), and a little bit into the shaquracy bubble, and you can probably forget that accuracy exists as a stat

[mossy anvil]

I beg u put that keychain on

It can encourage new players to do dungs

[true hamlet]

the leaves key chain or the tooth?

[dense kernel]

just got to w3 and feels overwhelmed, what should i focus what should i kidna ignore till later?

[mossy anvil]

Leaves

[worldly galleon]

thanks, will do

[true hamlet]

doesn't the tooth give accuracy%?

[mossy anvil]

shadow got +2 +3 acc or something like that

[full beacon]

there's acc ring from questing too

I used it. goated

[full beacon]

check out some of the pins

[full beacon]

if you're already r40+ then I can give some tips, otherwise it's impossible

[true hamlet]

you can solo it at r30+

all 3 of them

[full beacon]

ok I'm the wrong person for tips then

new elite has showed up

[cloud turtle]

you can take your time with figuring out trapping and worship. For now just set whatever traps, on whatever you find, and pick em up every now and then. Try out the tower defense minigame (worship) if you want, don't worry about getting particularly far. Tower defense starts taking off when you unlock the 6th tower - the party tower.

Construction will feel overwhelming, but all you really need to know is to put your squires in the main construction field, put your other characters into the cogs tab, and ignore all stats on cogs except for construction xp.

Salts will feel a little overwhelming, but they are very sloooow. All you need to know for now is: don't claim red salts unless the bar is full and you can rank up. Don't bother ranking up the other salts for now. Focus on unlocking buildings.

Mostly just keep working your way forwards. The most important things are unlocking more classes and working on your world 1 & 2 skills. You'll unlock the 3d printer soon and that will make your world 1 & 2 skills really take off

[honest cradle]

ok hopefully that means much bigger atom income

10x all my prints

[true hamlet]

you just made him feel even more overwhelmed

[cloud turtle]

copy pasta I saved from reddit x)

[cloud turtle]

what do we play idleon for if not emotional damage

[true hamlet]

this beginner is printing lucky lads

I think I'm at like 62 or 63/75

[mossy anvil]

if u need help we can do it rq

[dense kernel]

ig general rule of thumb is start off construction and printer, still focusing on progression, and occasionally side quest other systems?

[true hamlet]

how about... everything

[pulsar girder]

pretty much. whenever you feel like figuring out a new thing look at one of the new things

[odd wolf]

i was told to semi avoid jobs and focus normal progression. im R47 or so, so i should be able to solo, thanks tho!

[mossy anvil]

yeah so if u are r47 u can basically go straight for 3rd kill

[cloud turtle]

pretty much. Trapping is a pain in the butt until you get the drone, and worship is gated by construction progress

and they both scale so much with drone and construction that you're really not losing much even if you completely ignore them for a while

[pulsar girder]

its pretty unusual for there to be stuff you can REALLY fuck up in this game and if you do something wrong you can just change it later. just poke around

[cloud turtle]

until you get to hole in w5 x)

[pulsar girder]

i was thinking exalted stamps

[cloud turtle]

oh yeah those too

[honest cradle]

trapping is fine when you get bm

Just gotta know where the critters are

[dense kernel]

okok, im getting more and more overwhelmed as im only 3 days in and at w3 with all the new things coming out. like i was told to get a w1 set and was farming mats, then was told to speedrun to w6, and then was told w3 has important systems, like....

[cloud turtle]

yeah, but it really starts scaling when you can use drone to set other player's traps

[cloud turtle]

remember there's no rush. I took a full 3 years out of the game and I'm doing just fune

[pulsar girder]

that's all correct and anything you feel like chipping away at is gonna make progress. whether you're always picking the ABSOLUTELY TOP PRIORITY THING is debatable and probably you could ask three people in here and get five answers

[cloud turtle]

do stuff if you want to do it. There's actually no need to do everything in the most optimal order, unless you specifically enjoy optimising

[honest cradle]

Just chill and do things at your own pace

Pick a goal and work towards it

I didnt understand what killroy or boss of the week was so I skipped them for 2 months lmao

[pulsar girder]

and i will say from personal experience over the last month a lot of the more veteran players do not understand how fast you can push w6 currently as a new account and they'll see you in w3 and go "your chopping is level FIVE? you're using the BIG SLIME GUY AMULET???? YOU HAVEN'T UPGRADED FIVE THOUSAND GEMS WORTH OF GEM SHOP UPGRADES ON DAY 3????" or whatever like its bad and that's just normal now cause you get there so fast lol

[cloud turtle]

I get a kick out of optimising things, almost more than I do out of doing the thing, so I like to research all of that

[full beacon]

[lilac plover]

why does autoreview want me to dementia skull w1 mobs

[true hamlet]

why not?

[full beacon]

speedrun

[honest cradle]

multikill is really good

[full beacon]

vman sampling

[true hamlet]

also 1B kph on gmush is cool

[lilac plover]

fair enough

[dense kernel]

but at the same time i wanna try to catch up to the majority/meta soon, like i dont wanna miss out on events or stuff almost exclusive to late game tho, at least from my mmo experience

[honest cradle]

its an idle/incremental before its an mmo

[cloud turtle]

events so far have centered around w1 tbh

[lilac plover]

fomo about to make this guy spend $

[full beacon]

he usually brings back the event shop items

[honest cradle]

Its more fun getting to the stalling point than being at the stalling point

I feel like I am close to that and I dont like it

[true hamlet]

what's stalling

[pulsar girder]

i started in late april and i don't think i'm gonna be 'caught up' by the time w7 launches lol. but you can get to w6 and start the clock on the majority of the big systems pretty quick!

[cloud turtle]

don't worry about catching up, it will just happen

[honest cradle]

everything goes from making incredible progress to then just small steps that add up to progress

Like the first time I looked into hole and rift

[true hamlet]

guess the grind continues

[honest cradle]

Got incredible progress v fast

man that damage and dr makes it so much faster lmao, I havent even finished farming statue

[cloud turtle]

for example, when I first came back, I was super bummed that I missed this item in the lab rotation, and it seemed like it was gonna be forever till it came back. Well, I pretty much just got to the point where it would actually be useful to have that item, and lo and behold it's back in rotation

[true hamlet]

neither have I, don't have the stamina to sit here collecting resources for hours

[cloud turtle]

90% of the things that I was fomo'd about missing out on, I was too early in game to really benefit from them anyways

[honest cradle]

I mean onyxed not level x

[true hamlet]

yeah I haven't onyxed it

[dense kernel]

great tips guys really appreciate. so my current focus getting w1 set and general map progress is ok right? i kinda wanna semi-ignore systems too new to me until i have the mental space to play with it

[pulsar girder]

choco chip tomorrow and i'm gonna start onyxing...its gonna happen

[honest cradle]

you showed last night you already got 20k

[true hamlet]

If you have 15x DR, 1 in 100 crystal chance and 200 orb, your onyxing journey ends in w1

[pulsar girder]

sounds right 2 me. the one thing i would pressure you to do even if you don't wanna read about a whole bunch of bullshit, is that the w3 shop sells Skulls and Traps and you can and should buy one on every character and equip'em, they're tools under the pickaxes/fishing rods and stuff

[true hamlet]

I've still got essence statue to go, which is like 2.5x slower than the farming ones, just because of how they're dropped

[polar geyser]

no choccie for me sadly

[pulsar girder]

why not

[polar geyser]

no resources

[mossy anvil]

yup, after i finished first two, i was like at 12k essence

[pulsar girder]

you got a whole week! you can do it

[cloud turtle]

I'd say focus on progressing maps and unlocking classes. If you have a maestro, then maybe work on killing bosses with your maestro, since they have great drop rate for bosses (specifically bosses). Doing that will naturally get you all the mats you need to deck everyone out in full amarok gear. No need to rush for that specifically

[honest cradle]

with 1 in 36 cystal chance

[true hamlet]

yeah, I kinda realised really quickly when I saw the active drops tracker on IT lol

[honest cradle]

I am a mile away

[dense kernel]

whats a maestro

[pulsar girder]

oh and in your map exploration have you found Orion the Owl and Poppy the Kangaroo Mouse? they give a lot of goodies and you can just kinda check on them every so often

[dense kernel]

im playing on chinese translation and its so bad im thinking just gonna do english for my sanity LMAO

[true hamlet]

oh your set up is really nice, wouldn't do crystal farming until minichiefs map though, it's miles better than others from my testing

[pulsar girder]

if you don't pick warrior/mage/archer on a character you can wind up turning them into the secret class. not recommended til you have the core 6 classes

[cloud turtle]

it's a little bit of a secret ;). There are hints throughout w3, or if you really want you can look at the wiki's secrets section. But it doesn't matter till you get your 7th character anyways

[dense kernel]

well.....

[polar geyser]

wait nevermind its a lot cheaper than i thought

[honest cradle]

helps with gfood figure I could just push and farm at once

[pulsar girder]

yeah i was like what the..

just go get the stuff!! lol

[polar geyser]

i need cheese though lmao

like to unlock it

[true hamlet]

this orb makes all the difference though, just imagine 11x drop multi

[worldly galleon]

whats the best gear to maximaze my dmg to push w5 easier

[pulsar girder]

have you got spice 6/8/9

[honest cradle]

Also, get secrets as like 8th char imo

Beating nightmare kruk was not fun

[polar geyser]

but i have the pinions and i think i have the beach spice

[true hamlet]

oh I neglected kruk enough such that when I got to the kruk quest, I 1 shotted him on vman

[cloud turtle]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

The breeding guide in this is a little outdated, but for progressing to the cheese spices it's perfect.

[honest cradle]

ye mine is like 500 max

[polar geyser]

got the beach, 100k/200k pinion but i havent done it in a while so will be very easy

[zenith hare]

the fact you have 3x higher damage then you need

[polar geyser]

so now its just time to get the cheese going

[honest cradle]

are you leveling luck on all stations?

[mellow cedar]

I have 247 keys for w3 boss
and I want to get a bunch of scarfs and hopefully a wing

should I do nightmare or chaotic?

[zenith hare]

1m max damage is all you need, by 500k you reach max base kph

[zenith hare]

well you cant get wings on chaotic

[cloud turtle]

and w4 arena + mutated mush will get you an avalanche of ladles to spend on cooking. If you need more, you've got a week to put your BB in the kitche

[polar geyser]

ive barely touched it, my spices are awful since my teams are mid

[honest cradle]

I only leveled it on the first one myself

[true hamlet]

normal for best scarf rates, I don't suggest going for wing now

[white path]

yeah the scaling nowdays has gotten crazy

[worldly galleon]

really? i only get 1600 kph isnt that not good? this portal is 120k killss

[zenith hare]

1600 is amazing if you dont have lab

[honest cradle]

ye I have finally gotten to see how good boop box actually is and the hype is true

[mossy anvil]

u want to level all there coz of cabbage

[mellow cedar]

damn ok
well the wing is not that important
i really want the scarf

[zenith hare]

then normal mode

[true hamlet]

normal indeed

[polar geyser]

time to pray

[honest cradle]

but if I miss a chip I will be more sad

[worldly galleon]

with lab wwith all my chars I have 3200 but my other chars arent doing anything just lab

[honest cradle]

I already missed the last one

[polar geyser]

honestly i might throw every station on it to maximise the chances

[mossy anvil]

u dont have cheese or what u missing

[zenith hare]

thats the point. you WANT everyone to do nothing

[honest cradle]

sorry it was a jewel but o well

[true hamlet]

20000

[zenith hare]

too much skillinhg is VERY bad in w1-3 skills

[mellow cedar]

hmm that's a lot of boss kills
alright then ty
I'll do normals hopefully I'll get the scarfs

[true hamlet]

stealth statues acquired

[honest cradle]

large numbers of spice, what you use to upgrade

[mossy anvil]

if u worried about spices just wait for tomorrow and upgrade kitchens after buying everything

[zenith hare]

also lab solves the material issue

[cloud turtle]

honestly you'll make more progress by not doing that, and focusing the other stations on cooking food. Especially if you have a vman unlocked, but even then

[zenith hare]

2x printer output, 3x refinery speed, free bubble levels daily, and far more

[worldly galleon]

isnt it better for the other chars to do something like ggetting level , money, vman quest on the w1 , w2, w3?

[zenith hare]

no

[polar geyser]

but i just need the recipe more than anything atm

[zenith hare]

vman quest should only be started to be grinded w5 time

[worldly galleon]

im like this atm

[polar geyser]

think this one might be the one though

[zenith hare]

its about 15x faster in w5

due to arctis and nobi gods

[honest cradle]

I am now missing w/e skilling buff that green mainframe jewel gave and I am tilted

[cloud turtle]

yeah, but a lot of cooking scales with other cooking stuff. The most important, of course, being the meals which boost cooking speed and new recipe speed

[mossy anvil]

check recipes on wiki for specific meals

[polar geyser]

true true

[zenith hare]

being able to have everyone outside of lab while keeping lab bonuses is amazing, and nobi is an extra 2x kph multi ontop of that

[polar geyser]

yeah all the stations are on the recipe that has a chance at cheese since i dont have the 22nd spice yet

[pure swan]

specifically after pocket divinity is obtained for snakenhotep, arctis, and nobisect at the same time, so its just that much easier

(imo)

[worldly galleon]

ye but to maintain the lab bonuses I have to keep everyone inside other than my dk thats grinding, kinda anoying no?

[polar geyser]

ive got 3 options of 25d 73d 78d and 81d

[zenith hare]

not annoying at all, you lose basically nothing cause of the printer

[honest cradle]

o god thats curesed

[cloud turtle]

also, you should check out https://www.idleonefficiency.com/. If you log in with your idleon account and check out the world 4 tab, it'll show you all the meals with their bonuses and recipes, and you can sort by least time to cook next level

[honest cradle]

25d

[zenith hare]

all you do is get to w5 2x faster, have refinery scale faster, and get free bubble levels

[cloud turtle]

will make cooking progress much easier

[zenith hare]

only think you miss out on is class levels, which w5 mobs makes up for

[honest cradle]

at leas it isn't "'nd"

[cloud turtle]

also, I cannot emphasise enough how many ladles you get from w4 arena and mutated mush lol

[worldly galleon]

i mean true, thanks for the help

do i keep them there until w5?

[zenith hare]

honestly yeah, minus mman to skill to get right hand active asap (if you keep 2x kph anyways)

[mossy anvil]

try this

[cloud turtle]

well, in w5 you unlock divinity, which is lab2.0. And then you unlock a thing that lets you progress divinity while in lab, so they go back to lab x)

[worldly galleon]

aight

[mossy anvil]

mb u dont have spice, this one

[worldly galleon]

damn

[mossy anvil]

coz 81 days is way too long

[zenith hare]

(first 5 gods)

[polar geyser]

well time to go through this i guesssss

[pulsar girder]

doyou have the Diamond Chef bubble in yellow cauldron

[polar geyser]

between either 1/4 for it or 1/6 with chance of getting another new one aswell

[mossy anvil]

start with unlocking meals u missing and level them to at least lvl 11

[cloud turtle]

but all this will make your life much easier when you get your maestro up and running. You won't screw yourself over by not doing it, but you will create a fairly annoying speedbump for yourself

[polar geyser]

i dont believe i have the bubble yet sadly

[pulsar girder]

oh brutal

[mossy anvil]

why u got this ready while it was 81 days previously

[polar geyser]

yeahhhh theres a ton on the cooking side i need to do ive been avoiding it

[polar geyser]

reset them all to start working on meals

[mossy anvil]

dont neglect cooking, its huge boost to everything

[honest cradle]

I really need more kebabs

[cloud turtle]

oh yay, great genie card progress. Only checks 8000 left to drop ;-;

[honest cradle]

w5 was best for it ye?

[zenith hare]

for 4*?

basically no one grinded that

[cloud turtle]

nah, ruby

[zenith hare]

even worse

[pulsar girder]

that yellow bubble is HUGE for new recipe speed. and so is upgrading your kicthens individually. and so is buying the RIchelin Kitchen upgrade for the first couple if you haven't

[polar geyser]

i was gonna work on cooking but ive got too much that i need to focus at once that my brains just not working for all of it

[pulsar girder]

and there's a vial

[zenith hare]

the dr on it is bugged and it 10x rarer due to an extra 0 for card drops in the room

[polar geyser]

my head hurts man

[zenith hare]

grinding the gems is faster then grinding the cards

[cloud turtle]

!_!

[mossy anvil]

yeah game is overwhelming early on

[cloud turtle]

so should I just grind gems for a 5starifier?

[polar geyser]

i just wanted to get 100 cheese for cookie chip and now ive got 3 different things i need to be working on at once on everything but nothing aswell

[zenith hare]

honestly yeah

[honest cradle]

most ruby cards are rough

[polar geyser]

[zenith hare]

just do bosses ofc

[pulsar girder]

there's a whole week and i bet you can do it

[mossy anvil]

tbh genie ruby is not that hard to farm later on on dk

[zenith hare]

wrong

[polar geyser]

i was just settling into my chair to hopefully get some sleep soon and now im sat upright stressing aswell

[honest cradle]

as much as I hate daily tasks just make sure to get daily coloseum keys and learn the rest slow

[zenith hare]

"later on" is too late

even if youre at 30x dr its too late

[cloud turtle]

thanks to ladles, getting cheese is like a thing you can do in one session, if it makes you feel any better x)

[mossy anvil]

my later on was today

[zenith hare]

smh

[pulsar girder]

how is he gonna get ladles when he isn't already done getting cooking going lol

[zenith hare]

never cook

[cloud turtle]

w4 colosseum and mutated mush

[pulsar girder]

no ladle stamp, no multitool stamp i assume, probably not that many avail from mush/colo because DR is probably like ~10

[zenith hare]

DK mutate mush and max ur orb as high as possible

[zenith hare]

even at 10k ladles a day, never cook

unless youre at basically the last day of it

[cloud turtle]

bbut levelling cooking

[zenith hare]

no.

[cloud turtle]

;-;

[pulsar girder]

to get choco chip before it rotates

[mossy anvil]

u do it with pearls and bloons

[zenith hare]

new people to w4 can do it in 7 days

you have 9 and youre further then w4

[polar geyser]

well thats one thing down

[honest cradle]

genie being over 8k cards to get ruby makes me not want to do it

[cloud turtle]

and if that's not enough, you've got the colosseum

[honest cradle]

That is a lot of time

[zenith hare]

its almost like gems are a better method and also easier

[true hamlet]

I think I should go 4 star my nightmare chizoar card, brb

[polar geyser]

realisitically should i just throw out the subscriber, cards and other bits for now since i can get them easy for quests

i have no room constantly

[honest cradle]

I mean if you're gonna say better whats the criteria to make it better

[zenith hare]

move all unstackables onto bm

[cloud turtle]

I was gonna try and grind enough gems for all the ruby cardifiers anyways, but was planning to prioritise bosses for them

[polar geyser]

my bm has 2 pages of backpack slots

[zenith hare]

that is 32 extra storage slots

[polar geyser]

im also windwalkering him

[zenith hare]

then give it to a double char

[polar geyser]

okay bet

[honest cradle]

I moved all my unstackable stuff I want to keep on my vman

[true hamlet]

oh I didn't realise I dropped another wing

[cloud turtle]

I guess I don't need all the boss cards ruby. Kruk's 2nd and 3rd cards are pretty meh.

[zenith hare]

my second dk

[honest cradle]

boss require a lot less cards

[true hamlet]

loot from 25 bosses

something something

[cloud turtle]

man w6 chat says getting genies to ruby is easy ;-;

admittedly with 40x dr and mine is only 25

but unless I'm misunderstanding DR, it should only take me around twice as long

[mossy anvil]

if u have card drop chance cards rubied already and decent es, it shouldnt take much time

[soft girder]

it is

rubify in gem shop cost 400 gems

[night oracle]

Small gains

How do I make this go brrr

[zenith hare]

10 chars afk

active es

only two options

[night oracle]

My other 9 are afk for dark lanterns

[soft girder]

first get 450 dr at minimum, then upgrade dk orb talent to lvl 600, then grind the map at 30 mins interval and you are set

[mossy anvil]

then craft gshard bag from lanterns

[night oracle]

I will

[river spruce]

450 DR. HUH

[night oracle]

But I also need these gloves

[mossy anvil]

ahh its gloves

i dont have that recipe yet

[zenith hare]

need vs want

kruk gloves are better unless you get gshard

mob respawn does a lot

[runic coral]

i am back meme

[zenith hare]

hello back

[runic coral]

again with the dad jokes

[zenith hare]

why would i not

[river spruce]

Anyone got that trapping picture? the one that shows what cards to use when placing/picking up?

[light peak]

guys i need to get a quadrillion of these for a weapon upgrade i got everything else but critters are AIDS getting 1 shiny scorpion rn is AIDS so any tips?

[zenith hare]

do you use silkskin traps?

[light peak]

nope

[zenith hare]

thatll be why

[river spruce]

Upgrade traps to get more charges. set traps for smaller amount of time for more shinies

[zenith hare]

silkskin gives an 80x better odds to get shinies

[light peak]

thx bro

[river spruce]

Listen to meme as well

[light peak]

damnnnn i mean im struggling to get that 1 shinny frog ngl

for the craft

[zenith hare]

thats what happens when you dont do what people suggest and use ur first shiny on the trap

[cloud turtle]

first one will be hard

[river spruce]

once u do what we said u will be rolling in those guys. i had like 50 when i made my first wep

[cloud turtle]

then you will be drowning in them

[zenith hare]

20 min traps is easiest method for em btw

as its based on trap collection, not how much critters found

[light peak]

yea i been putting em at like 8hrs getting like 5k normal frogs but 0shinies

[zenith hare]

its cause the amount of frogs doesnt matter

its the freqency of trap collection

[river spruce]

Yeah always 20 min for shinies

[cloud turtle]

8 hrs is good when you're not grinding towards something specific

[zenith hare]

base odds is 5% per trap collected

[light peak]

alr ty guys i'll do the 20min strat ,get silkskin repeat ig

will i not need to upgrade from silkskin tho?

[zenith hare]

getting everyone to silkskin or better will help

you can place previous traps from further upgraded traps

[cloud turtle]

eventually yes, for more traps. And then you will place silkskins

[zenith hare]

so you can still place cardboard with silkskin, as an example

[cloud turtle]

each trap has advantages and disadvantages

natural for example gives 0 critters at all, but huge xp, and you still get cards

[light peak]

in crafting menu it dont show these abilities

lava gotta add info there

[cloud turtle]

not in crafting menu, but it will show when you place them. Because each trap has different stats, for each length

you always wanna upgrade if you can

so for example if you have natural traps equipped, when you go to place, it will let you choose from all the traps natural and below

[hollow tendon]

iirc you can even pick natural even if you dont have natural traps on that particular char, right?

[cloud turtle]

and natural 8 hrs has different multipliers to natural 20hrs, silkskin 20 mins, silkskin 8 hrs etc

[cloud turtle]

if that character has a higher level trap than natural equipped, yes

[hollow tendon]

might have misremembered sth then, mbad

[light peak]

alr i got it now

ty alot❤️

[cloud turtle]

np

[hollow tendon]

anyways, bottomline is it's always good to get better traps for every char cuz u can plant more traps

[cloud turtle]

trapping is weird, it works fairly differently to all the other skills

and when you get trapping drone it becomes even weirder haha

[river spruce]

Any tips on what obol set i should use on my vman?

[cloud turtle]

pop and dr or skilling. For everyone, really

[limpid bough]

vman almost done

all I need is Thermisters, Tysons, Moonmoons, and Sand Giants

[cloud turtle]

early on you can use kinda whatever, Obol farming is a lateish game thing, and it takes some work to get them to a point where they're impactful

[night oracle]

Does this even make a difference?....

[drowsy pike]

do giant monsters give more exp or only drops?

[cloud turtle]

the impactful obols you have now are probably the boss obols. Def from amarok if you need a top up, dmg from the others

[river spruce]

Yeah. Basically just wanna grab at least bronze pop obols for everyone. with silver rerolled ones for ES/DK

[cloud turtle]

you know I'm not sure

[cloud turtle]

that takes a fair amount of time, and the benefit right now might not be that great since you're probably not getting into the really dr-dependent grinds yet

not a bad idea to get one set of silver pop obols for active farming though

[river spruce]

Yeah true. But its like...i want to get certain things done for my peace of mind. Not so much efficiency thing

Making a list of stuff i wanna get done so my pea brain doesnt explord

[cloud turtle]

what is this enlightened and healthy attitude

[jade tree]

can you start prinitn red salt?

[cloud turtle]

nah. refinery is the only way

[jade tree]

oof

[river spruce]

ive had so much headache running around. i need to set clear goals and just go nice and simple

[worldly galleon]

how do I unlock w4 on the merit shop?

[cloud turtle]

yeah, refinery is a pain. Until one day it stops becoming a pain and starts shititng out salts like nobody's business

[cloud turtle]

the guy has a lil tv, next to spider vendor

[jade tree]

keeping up with the costs is a pain

[cloud turtle]

that gets much easier

in fact with a printer you should be able to just print them

[jade tree]

i had to start 3d printing Copper Ore

[cloud turtle]

you should be doing that anyways

[jade tree]

90 per hour XD

[cloud turtle]

yeah that gets better 🙂

[jade tree]

my miner character makes alot more per hour

[hollow tendon]

the printing is based on your afk gains

[jade tree]

10k per hour my miner makes

[cloud turtle]

yes but think of all the other things they could be doing, like floating in a vat in lab, or sitting on a slab in div ^^

[hollow tendon]

fr have your miner print copper ore for a few days and youll probly be good for a month for the redox salts

[cloud turtle]

anyways, printing starts off as a smallish % of your afk gains, but soon enough it'll become faster than actually mining

[jade tree]

thats why i cant on my 2nd character

[cloud turtle]

yeah upgrading your printer in construction is v important

[hollow tendon]

yeah, upgrading the printer should be a priority for you

[cloud turtle]

also doesn't take particularly long

[worldly galleon]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[cloud turtle]

lava lad jumpscare

[pulsar girder]

damn i am going to need a big damage amp to take down the quenchie abom aren't i

[jade tree]

huh i get 1140 per hour on my miner characyter for ore priniting i though 3d print was meant to be 100% afk gain

[pulsar girder]

with a ton of other shit you can amp it up to 90% but it starts much lower

[hollow tendon]

it's based on afk gains, not 1 to 1

[jade tree]

oooh

[cloud turtle]

no no. your sample will start at 10%

fully upgraded, with all sampling buffs, it will sample max 90%

and then there's buffs to printer output, that max you print faster than your sample

[jade tree]

just fully upgraded it to max now it prints 1.9k per hour

[hollow tendon]

there's a bunch other things that will buff the printing

[honest cradle]

what is going on with that contrast my guy

[cloud turtle]

one of the big advantages of lab jail is that it doubles printer output

[hollow tendon]

it is a lil eyefucky, ngl

[cloud turtle]

bro is beaming his screen to the ISS

[jade tree]

hdr screenshots

[hollow tendon]

hdr makes every picture better 100% of the time

[honest cradle]

100% of the time 50% of the time

[pulsar girder]

how big of an impact is the speed descriptor on WW weapons

i just had three 10%s hit on a Slow and i have 84 weap on it compared to my previous best of 65 (medium) so i assume its better

[cloud turtle]

it's not a particularly big deal till later imo

[mossy anvil]

if u talking about tempest form, attack speed and weapon power is huge

[cloud turtle]

yeah, but if you're in, like, w3 in tempest, then weapon power is way more impactful, no?

[pulsar girder]

i'm in w3 yeah and i am comparing a 65 medium and an 84 slow and assuming the 84 is way better

[mossy anvil]

than speed? yes. but thats where gambling with bows starts

[pulsar girder]

lol my sheet damage went up like 150%

[cloud turtle]

yeah, but for someone in w3, I've heard the best option is to go with the highest wp for now, and start looking at high speed when you get to, like, late w4 early w5

[mossy anvil]

thats true

u prob want to rush to w4 asap and start from there

[pulsar girder]

two aboms away from w4

[mossy anvil]

ofc having good dust bow before helps a lot

[random pollen]

You never want speed over even the slightest bit of weapon power

[pulsar girder]

yeah my 65 was a dust one i was using for ages and this one is Fire unfortunately but its sooooo good

i assume

[random pollen]

Rush w4 for power rings basically

[cloud turtle]

for dust gains, you pretty much always want a dust bow, even if the fire bow is better stats

[random pollen]

The way weapon power works is that 1 wp = x1.05 multiplier, every point

[pulsar girder]

oh cool

[random pollen]

This works out to 14wp being effectively double dmg

[cloud turtle]

a fire bow would have to give you like 2-3x the kph for it to keep up with a dust bow

[random pollen]

Before modifiers like talents and cosmo and shit

[cloud turtle]

(assuming only 1 or 2 successful upgrades)

[pulsar girder]

in my specific post i posted just now as i mentioned i hit three!

definitely gonna use this for abom hunting for the time being

[cloud turtle]

perfect for abom hunting, and grats!

[pulsar girder]

still a bit away from reaching w4 i assume cause i'll have to take on the quenchie one but my damage went from 66k to 268k so far today on here lol

[cloud turtle]

once you're in w4, which will be soon, you'll want to start collecting a bow of each element, along side your dust bow. And you'll want to start using 1 dust ring and 1 element ring with your dust bow.
If you're not 1shotting the deer, you can swap the dust ring for a tempest dmg ring. A 2nd element ring can work too, but it's less good and means you have to gamble on more rings

[true hamlet]

I willing to bet that that's 10x of my damage

[cloud turtle]

also, in general, your best dust farming is really dependent on your deer kills. So a map where you can 1 shot deer frequently is usually best

[true hamlet]

I should get dusting, but I need to finish onyxing first

[cloud turtle]

I'm dusting till I get choco, then I shall commence onyxing haha

[true hamlet]

are you set up for onyxing?

each world you go up gets significantly harder than the one before 😂

[cloud turtle]

yeah, I'm probably good for w1/2 onyxing, but def not ready for w3 onwards

I think at least

[true hamlet]

that's still good, will ramp your prints

I mean, w2 you'd probably want like 15DR, 1 in 80 crystal and 250 orb

[cloud turtle]

with all my best gear, I have a 25x dr

[true hamlet]

nice nice

orb is the big one though

[cloud turtle]

haven't looked at my crystal with everything set up, but I got poops to ruby and orb to 250

[random pollen]

Choccy chip is the biggest lol

[cloud turtle]

and exalted crystallin

[random pollen]

Ruby poop and platinum genie is fine, dont need chips until later

[cloud turtle]

genies are still plat

[random pollen]

Get dr up before bothering with ruby there

[cloud turtle]

chips?

[random pollen]

Lab chips that can double some cards, used on poop and genie here

[cloud turtle]

oh those. Yeah I don't have those yet

[random pollen]

I dont either, screw gacha and they months away

[cloud turtle]

154 days till the next one ;;

though I'm sure a few weeks ago choco chip was listed as being much further away

do the rotations change sometimes?

or was I just failing at numbers

[true hamlet]

failing at numbers

they're predetermined

[honest cradle]

Ye the card doubler chi p need doesn't come up until November

Rough

[jade tree]

this vial sounds insane

[cloud turtle]

it is indeed good, and nice and easy to max out

[jade tree]

dont you need 1.1B wool to do it though

[cloud turtle]

yeah but a Secret Thing you will unlock Soon(tm) will make that very easy

[night oracle]

So this means if my other charm says +100 max charm levels, it's +249?

[wooden crater]

What exactly does this mean? Got a bunch of these, but they're level 6, not 5

[sturdy totem]

That's exactly what that means

They've surpassed (are above) the threshold (which is level 5)

[wooden crater]

Basically, IT's recommending I don't level them past 5

[sturdy totem]

It's informing you that it's gone past 5

[true hamlet]

no, you've just set your threshold at 5

[night oracle]

That's the default set threshold

[sturdy totem]

But you can modify the threshold to whatever you want

[wooden crater]

Right, fair enough, cheers

[sturdy totem]

Though most don't level breeding pets beyond 7 iirc

Takes too long

[true hamlet]

nah, it just gives higher bonus, the +x isn't linear

[night oracle]

Wait huh?

[wooden crater]

Yeah I'm just going for a few 7s for the achievement, noticed I somehow got three of them to 7 without trying, but the others have been at 6 for weeks now lol

[night oracle]

But it's saying the bonus is x2.49?

[sturdy totem]

Probably because you went active on ww for a while

[wooden crater]

I forgot that was a thing lmao, I've barely bothered with breeding outside of shinies for 1-2 years

[sturdy totem]

That's very fair

[true hamlet]

yeah, ths charm just gives 2.49x bonus

to other charms

[night oracle]

So then this will get multiplied by x2.49, right?

[true hamlet]

I think it's already multiplied but idk

[night oracle]

Huh...

Then it's dumb that it says "than displayed"

[true hamlet]

hmm in that case, I guess you're right

[worldly galleon]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[true hamlet]

outdated, just sayin

[mossy anvil]

gear command kinda outdated

damn u were faster

[worldly galleon]

is there any new prints ? or something like that ?

[true hamlet]

it's just amarok to w6, then switch to troll

[worldly galleon]

and what about necklace and rings ?

[true hamlet]

amarok pendant then chizoar scarf line

[worldly galleon]

full amarok even the helmet ?

[true hamlet]

for rings, just use serrated rex rings

[worldly galleon]

or gold helmet ?

[true hamlet]

helmet can be whatever, if you use the helmet, you'll get an accuracy set bonus though

[worldly galleon]

i already have it unlocked in the new armor thing guy

so i don’t need to use it or do I ?

[true hamlet]

ah then there's no need to, just use whatever you have

[worldly galleon]

aight thanks

[true hamlet]

you can follow the food they used, just swap all the green potions for the orange strength variants

[worldly galleon]

yes atm i have strength and xp equipped

[mellow jetty]

Guys what's the command to look up meta char set up?

[rugged kiln]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[rugged kiln]

this one?

[true hamlet]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[rugged kiln]

fuck its guide not gear

[true hamlet]

open the sheet, first tab

[rugged kiln]

whoops

[mellow jetty]

Damn my baby kicked my phone and made me into an archer. Rip acc sadge lol

[true hamlet]

what's your set up now?

[mellow jetty]

Was gonna go es. Unfortunate. Idk why lava won't make it possible to change.

[rugged kiln]

thats depressing

[true hamlet]

assuming that's your 9th?

[mellow jetty]

Yup lol

[true hamlet]

you can get ES as 10th then

I have 3 3 3 1 setup too and it works fine for me

[mellow jetty]

Yeah but this random archer does nothing lol

[true hamlet]

he can do monument

div/lab too

[mellow jetty]

I guess. He will be a place holder lol

Hopefully lava makes it possible to delete chars

Or even just change main class.

[ruby loom]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[night oracle]

That doesn't seem right....

Also look what I got :o

First class exp wings?

[polar geyser]

sadness i got this supersonic with 41% dust rate clean almost same power, 5 fails sadly could have been my new bow

[night oracle]

W2?

[polar geyser]

yeahhh

w2 just naturally better on drops?

[gritty bison]

does anyone know how printer works?
like x amount of item every hour or (x amount of item every hour)/3600 every second

[true hamlet]

per hour

[fossil kayak]

Every hour, not continuous

[night oracle]

You take a sample with the skill which is a % of you afk gains
Then you can print that which prints per hour

With lab you can make it 2x output per hour and later on even a 3x (6x if combined)

[gritty bison]

that means it will work every certain second of hour?

[true hamlet]

you can get like 100x printer output easily 😂

[gritty bison]

thx for info

time to run some god shard stuff going

[fossil kayak]

IT can tell you when it is coming up

[gritty bison]

where do you see it?

[fossil kayak]

Dashboard

[gritty bison]

efficiency one or toolbox?

[fossil kayak]

Toolbox

[gritty bison]

kk thx

[blissful python]

struggling pretty hard on accuracy with the donuts on world 4, do i just wait on resources for accuracy/stamps or try to upgrade gear?

[blissful python]

thanks

[night oracle]

Not bad....

[blissful python]

at this point does it make sense to craft full amarok?

[night oracle]

Yes

Because of the set bonus

[blissful python]

ty

[night oracle]

SOON!!

Ayyyy

[hasty crater]

if im going for rare drops is es or dk better?

[night oracle]

Depends

If the rare drops are from a blue bag, DK

If it's in the direct loot table, you use ES

[hasty crater]

ok ty

[night oracle]

You will also want crystal spawn chance

Should this be high priority to level in my guild?

[thin wind]

this guys going through it

[fossil kayak]

Not the worst thing to invest in. Before I would have said focus it hard, but the gems out of them were nerfed a couple patches ago.

[formal flume]

What upgrades lower cooking Cost to Upgrade Meals? The wiki doesn't list any, but then also has a note under the base ammount to level that the ways to reduce those costs makes the numbers easier to reach

[fossil kayak]

Food Lust from W3 Equinox

[formal flume]

Thank you

Now to unlock more Equinox bubbles so I get that

[strange prism]

[warped crystal]

For the new armor set guy is that an account wide bonus for completing each set or just when you are wearing that specific set?

[strange prism]

yes, account wide

just need to craft it

[formal flume]

(And equip all peices on the same character and tap one of them once equipped)

[severe timber]

noob question, in pet battles in arena why is my rattler not throwing his bones?

[uncut lantern]

Where can I find scorpions to trap

[pulsar girder]

docks left of w2 town

[warped raven]

what stamp is good to spend the 95% off on

[pulsar girder]

i've been using mine on Crystallin every time i can so far personally but maybe someone will tell me that's STUPID in a second

[sleek pollen]

thats crabs, scorpions are at on the tyson map, near the portal to next map

[pulsar girder]

oh woops

[warped raven]

am on the choco chip waiting room too

i thought it'll be today cause of weekly reset but its tmrw

[sleek pollen]

its never on things like daily/weekly reset because each player has a different one, chip/jewel rotation is on its on timer

[pulsar girder]

its a great day to be in the choco chip waiting room

[sleek pollen]

yet another choco chip

[white path]

I don't mind getting an 8th one

[daring kiln]

I'm a bit away from choco chip

[river spruce]

hello my friends

[river spruce]

despair.

[solid marsh]

Sup. Does pet power affect breedability gain speed?

[zealous flare]

Never a bad thing

[zealous flare]

I think so? Not 100% sure

[solid marsh]

I'm also not 100% sure

[zealous flare]

I mean I work on that assumption

[wicked mountain]

how do you add an armor set to your collection? mine doesnt seem to be working. ive crafted a nwe set, equipped it, stored it in my chest, dropped it on his feet

[zealous flare]

So I kinda hope that's the case 😂

[zealous flare]

You have to go to the little guy in W3 by the prayers totem thing (it's active for people who paid for gems, for everyone else it'll be around in about 3 weeks I think)

[pulsar girder]

once you've unlocked the little guy in w3 the other thing is you have to click a piece of it WHILE EQUIPPED so that it shows the full set bonus. that's what registers it

[zealous flare]

This is the little guy in W3