midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[light peak]

is it worth leaving my characters all in lab for like 20hrs? any gain from that?? (lvl1)

[west pilot]

i left them opening the door on the next floor

[strange prism]

if you have goat god, yes

well first whats your highest world

[west pilot]

but fo some reason the went back one floor and despawned

[light peak]

world4 no goat

[strange prism]

if youre new to world 4, then sitting in lab isnt a bad idea

[light peak]

any gain from it tho?

[pulsar girder]

line gets longer with levels

[strange prism]

lab levels, more lab width, more lab nodes unlocked

[pulsar girder]

ooh new record 4 me

[swift cove]

Where do i upgrade squire to dk

[light peak]

i heard ppl say u can just level thru ALOT later anyway tho?

[strange prism]

you do want to gradually push everyone to genies to get the next class unlock though

[strange prism]

you can definitely level faster later, but the buffs are something you need now

[pulsar girder]

fourth combat zone of w4

[strange prism]

try to reach this at the least

New to w4

• Push everyone to Genies (map 4)
• Put everyone but DK in lab
• Push DK to boss and go into w5
  

[zenith hare]

ew

remove that "dk" bit into "main pusher"

dk is only good if you active

and even then you need to active a good 7-8 hours a day

which a majority of people cant

[violet elm]

bb is faster if youre gonna afk cause you get zows fast and get a lot more damage then dk

[strange prism]

BBs terrible for the boss

[zenith hare]

it isnt

[strange prism]

you should push with DK or Bubo

[violet elm]

its not bad

[zenith hare]

God no!

it's dk or es if you active.

[strange prism]

smh

[zenith hare]

bubo is trash early compared to those two active wise

[strange prism]

its not about active, its about the boss

[zenith hare]

it isn't tho??

[violet elm]

bro im telling you if youre not gonna do it actively I think BM is better then bubo

[zenith hare]

kruk is uber easy, troll is uber easy

[ruby pagoda]

Does Apocalypse Chow affect new meal recipe speed?

[strange prism]

[zenith hare]

no

[zenith hare]

pre vault, yes you'd care ab damage.

[strange prism]

BB is literally horrendous for kruk

[zenith hare]

we aren't pre vault.

[strange prism]

ig

[zenith hare]

you can beat kruk at 60m damage

[strange prism]

well thats just not true

[zenith hare]

it is true!

[violet elm]

200M damage and you can out dps the healing

[zenith hare]

at 100m you can

[strange prism]

@polar geyser would disagree

[violet elm]

nah I tried

[zenith hare]

nowadays 60m can due to boss damage

[strange prism]

100m you can, definitely

[violet elm]

I couldnt until 200

[zenith hare]

well I could 2 years ago

so you did smth wrong

[violet elm]

maybe attack speed matters

[strange prism]

it depends on the ability of the character, BB doesnt have wave clear like Bubo and DK

[zenith hare]

ofc it does

[strange prism]

BB needs more damage then the rest

[polar geyser]

nahhh it took me 80m to get it done

[zenith hare]

it does btw

[zenith hare]

did you have boss damage starsign and rings?

[polar geyser]

i tried at 60m but it couldnt outdmg the heal from the beans

i had the rings not the starsign

[zenith hare]

its cause you dont out heal

you have to kill the moles

[strange prism]

[polar geyser]

nahhhh at 80m you can just stand in the middle and afk and itll kill through mole heals

[zenith hare]

takes like 5 mins

[zenith hare]

oh yeah absolutely

[violet elm]

yeah I just had it on for like 30 min

[zenith hare]

but you can do it earlier

[zenith hare]

did you not use attack talents?

[violet elm]

ofc but i couldnt kill any moles

[polar geyser]

i did try to kill moles on the 60mil but i wasnt able to get the like hits onto dude and then kill moles aswell and the moles that would get through would outheal it again

[zenith hare]

combust

axe, bear hand

all 3 can hit kruk

[primal crescent]

best class for farming bloodbones for vman?

[zenith hare]

bb

also do not try and get vman in w4

[violet elm]

didnt do enough damage to one hit with combust and i wasnt running axe

[zenith hare]

w5 makes vman like 15x easier

[zenith hare]

....why were you not using axe?

and i never said one shot em with combust, combust is what hits kruk, with the others

[violet elm]

I thought it was bad... I used the single strike attack warriors have...

for dps on kruk

[zenith hare]

tbf the spin strike is great nowadays

[polar geyser]

its beautiful its time to get them to level 300

i just need to stone all my amarok gear for the accuracy

[zenith hare]

post lab syndrome

[violet elm]

this is exactly what i did

[polar geyser]

just gonna get them to 300 then stick them back into divinity

[pulsar girder]

wait whats going on here... i was cooking fine on wurms and i did a lap of getting afk gains on my div guys

[zenith hare]

thats fair tbh

[violet elm]

bro thats exactly what Im doing

[pulsar girder]

and i went back to wurms and now my fart clouds are Missing sometimes?

changed nothing on the bubo. what da

[zenith hare]

your chemical warfare talent is at 0

[pulsar girder]

OH

[zenith hare]

ur fart cloud has been useless this entire time

[polar geyser]

divinity until i get goat, then stick lab and divinity until theyre like 70 i think it was

[violet elm]

jake is me 2 weeks before

[polar geyser]

and get the bb to start pushing a tiny bit to world 6 for db

[pulsar girder]

nah i just did a talent redo on it 5m ago before this started lmao

[zenith hare]

smh

[polar geyser]

and maybe bm to ww

[zenith hare]

it just needs 1 talent so dw

[pulsar girder]

someone had told me to take it off my bar so i did

[zenith hare]

theyre right

[pulsar girder]

and then when i went through just now i was like oh i still have tons of points in this i should remove them

[zenith hare]

but it does also need 1 level

[pulsar girder]

and that was my error it turns out

[zenith hare]

yus

[violet elm]

how much crystal spawn chance to begin crystal farming

I want to get the square drop rate obols

but theyre in super rare bags

[zenith hare]

1/100 is recommended

[violet elm]

is there a calculator i could use

[zenith hare]

IT/IE shows it

[violet elm]

ok

[zenith hare]

character menu ofc

[pulsar girder]

damn i didn't realize mine had gotten this high

[violet elm]

dang mines at 200

hell yh next spin is choco

[strange prism]

200

[solid perch]

I have 1 of each elite class now, what should char #8 be?

[violet elm]

IM just starting out to get dr and crystal lol

[strange prism]

DK for more con

[polar geyser]

okay so, cause i wasnt prepared for all this shit to happen so soon

what should i go for at this point

should i go for troll armor

cause to do actual like w6 farming

ill probably need a bit more accuracy to make it work

[true hamlet]

What thing

[violet elm]

bro first thing get everyone to 300 its gonna be a breeze now dont go for troll just yet but get void on everything I mean everything tools trap skull

armor weapon

[pulsar girder]

i forget if you have doot. if you have no doot you probably wanna park nearly everyone on divinity until omniphau. if you do have doot you still want to park ONE guy on divinity for a while to level up and get to level 60 or whatever it is for the multitool stamp

[twin quail]

Should I level my warriors mage/ardcher skills and viceversa to be able to get full void stuff?

[pulsar girder]

and then start doing master class shit basically. grimoire and compass upgrades

[polar geyser]

nahhhh no doot sadly, no pets in general tbh just like green mushroom and purple shroom

[true hamlet]

Skip the void, go for troll, you really can't die in w6

[pulsar girder]

ok yeah so i was in a similar situation of early w6 vman unlock and basically i parked everyone on divinity til god 5 (then god 5 lets you go to the lab and get divinity prog and lab prog simultaneously until god 6)

[weary heron]

i'm at world 3 and i havent promoted a couple of my characters yet, do i put them in the other subclass? the one i avoided while doing world 2 because world 3 stuff

[pulsar girder]

and active on db until you get Charred Bones then afk on DB and active on WW til you have a better idea lol

[polar geyser]

yeahhhh my issue is just the like accuracy issue, so i wasnt sure if its worth chucking on some w6 stones on amarok and being at like 5k kills per hour or working on troll and then going for w6 stage 1 farming

[pulsar girder]

yeah one of each as first 6 for sure

[true hamlet]

Just level shaquracy, to around 100, you can do that pretty easily. What map are you on?

[polar geyser]

might do that, but like theyre all level 100 still so i kinda wanted to get them higher in levels to then chuck on some good sp into things and chuck them back onto the div jail til 5

[polar geyser]

like literally start of w6

[weary heron]

well then

it's wizard time, motherfucker

FIREBALL

[pulsar girder]

oh yeah for sure!! easy gains for a candy or whatever in w5! and i also started actually looking at and working on and completing equinox stuff around then. its been a lot of work for bascially no gain until literally today lol

[twin quail]

I'm on W4, the latest dood I have is a DK with full dementia, scarf and ice weapon.
Dementia Pick, Horned Skull and Wooden Traps, the rest are iron. Is that ok for where I am?

[pulsar girder]

but now i got those liquidvestments going and i'm cooking and i'm having a good time

[true hamlet]

Honestly, no rush to push, use the 1st map to level up all your chars a bit, then straight into skilling. Generally with vault, people are pushing to leeks in skilling gear before swapping to troll there since it's much easier to push early w6 now

[violet elm]

make sure you have to level up reward buble you can prob get 300 gems just from that

[pulsar girder]

yeah i was like really singlemindedly pushing worlds til i got to w6 and then i got to the master class stage and didn't move any further for like two weeks cause there's really no incentive to push further, compared to just catching up on all the stuff we blitzed past

[mossy anvil]

is it 99%?

[pulsar girder]

no but its 63% and i'm manually keeping an eye on it while i'm at my computer and 63% is way better than 0 when i'm not!

[mossy anvil]

alr, its one of equinox dream that appear pretty early so u might be able to get it soon

[ruby glen]

WHY is my deathnote say that? ive killed 12 mil Green Mush on my Vman alone

[mossy anvil]

vman

[pulsar girder]

yup, i'm looking at 5 annoying ones rn but once i get past them i can see the 99% one but i am not ready to claim it just yet

[mossy anvil]

what u got there

[pulsar girder]

max 5 flurbos
construction 300
shrine 140
75 gstack
clear w2 dungeon

[polar geyser]

good shouttt i do try to

[mossy anvil]

pretty easy ones

[ruby glen]

does vman not count?

[pulsar girder]

and the 99% liquidvestment one is "have 48 double cogs", which i've saved every one i've generated since i made them and i am at about 25 so no rush

[mossy anvil]

vman kills gets reseted to 2 mil, u dont do deathnote on him

[ruby glen]

ah

[mossy anvil]

alr u cookin

[pulsar girder]

i'm trying

[honest cradle]

trying to bash my head against the wall to get this last w1 pet and its not working

[pulsar girder]

and i found out why i was dying to wurm room lmao it was two things: 1. had -def prayer on. and more importantly 2. i had forgotten to enhance TWO PIECES of my armor with armor upgrades so i was short 11 upgrade successes lmao

so i'm chilling now

[mossy anvil]

how much def u have

or hp

[pulsar girder]

haven't died to a crystal since i upgraded

[honest cradle]

I got one tapped the first time I walked into tremur worms

Then I came back after some other stuff and it was easy town

[mossy anvil]

i still think defence is whatever, u just need hp

[mossy anvil]

also take note i dont remember early game that much so some ideas might be dumb but they should work

[honest cradle]

I never even touched fmj until I was already easily surviving thins bc everyone says to get it

[pulsar girder]

at the end of the day i just want my cranium cooking to work and it is now so i don't really care one way or the other lol

[honest cradle]

I just dont understand y people have issues like defence

[mossy anvil]

my defence on bubo

[soft girder]

yeah defence kinda useless

can run around naked in w6 and still be fine

[mossy anvil]

yup

[livid jasper]

What class to farm card ? Vman ?

[honest cradle]

and I was running amarok into chiz

[pulsar girder]

ele sorc for cards

[honest cradle]

Not like I was running crazy gear

[mossy anvil]

es for mobs, vman for bosses and skilling

[honest cradle]

es

[soft girder]

can i stack wormhole kills on kruk?

or it doesnt work on boss?

[weary heron]

how do you do the wizard skill thing

[rocky agate]

the wood? click it

[weary heron]

nah the world 3 one

[rocky agate]

hunter?

[pulsar girder]

buy a skull from w3 shop on every character and equip it as a tool

[weary heron]

the one that wizard specialises in

[rocky agate]

u play td at each totem

[pulsar girder]

over DAYS this charges up worship power which you use at the totems in various worlds to play a tower defence game, to learn prayers and get souls, which you can equip and spend at the w3 town thing

[soft girder]

worship?

[weary heron]

yeah

[soft girder]

well got on your knees and pray

[weary heron]

oh that sounds like a pain in the ass

[mossy anvil]

how do u want to do it without accidentaly oneshotting boss

[soft girder]

my dmg sucks

i cant one shot nightmare kruk

[mossy anvil]

so wormhole wouldnt give u much either

coz wormhole is all about dmg

[soft girder]

i want that cape for the divine title

[mossy anvil]

so just kill boss

[soft girder]

no luck lol

i have 20 dr and tried on maestro

[mossy anvil]

my average for cape is like 3k keys

[soft girder]

oh

[honest cradle]

wormhole can not affect a boss

[soft girder]

so maybe i didnt try enough

i used 1k keys

[mossy anvil]

u should get one in 4k more i would say

[soft girder]

ah gotcha

will try when i get my dk to farm w4 statues

[honest cradle]

unless you complain then your guarnateed it w;in 5 tries

[mossy anvil]

yeah, just gotta complain and it drops

[soft girder]

no complaints from me

no luck is just me having skill issues

[mossy anvil]

so no drops for u

[honest cradle]

Its like osrs

[soft girder]

maybe me and that cape are just not fated

[odd osprey]

today's the day I discovered you can only claim spices 100 times per day

[soft girder]

happened me on the day i just unlocked new spice for recipes

[honest cradle]

theres an achievement to claim something like 1k times

[past sage]

What is the meta with lab? Do I really gotta put like half my characters in to get nodes? They just permanently removed from the game outside of their 3D samples

[mossy anvil]

wait till u discover spice talent

[soft girder]

imagine unlocking new spice just to disocver u cant claim it

[honest cradle]

It might be way higher I dont remember

[livid jasper]

Fr?

[past sage]

How do I get new spices

[soft girder]

honestly im still mad on that golden dice stamp

dont say trash near me

i got hoodwinked

free dr just slipped thru my hands

[soft girder]

oh u can get it to lvl 100

[honest cradle]

free? its v expensive

[soft girder]

mine is lvl 20 i forgot where i got it

[mossy anvil]

merit iirc

[livid jasper]

So this talent worth ?

[mossy anvil]

yes

[soft girder]

ye its good

it will come in clutch when u wanna buy a chip or gem and discover u actually have the needed spices

[mossy anvil]

how about u claim spices and upgrade your kitchens

[soft girder]

hell no

my spices looking so bad half of them arent even filled with pets

[odd osprey]

this is VIP book right?

[white path]

w4 merit shop

[soft girder]

imma unlock converter first and try fill it up later

[honest cradle]

thats just shooting your foot

[soft girder]

btw one artifact just boosted my gaming by 10x lol

guess thats why i got stuck in gaming

there is also another artifact for gaming i ignored

[mossy anvil]

Imagine how much artifacts u could get if u didnt neglect cooking and kitchen

There are also gaming meals

[soft girder]

yuh

[honest cradle]

I dont think ive gotten a single gaming meal must be last few

[soft girder]

wanted to get eldrtich fury mask first

[pulsar girder]

they're backloaded yeah

like spice 18+

[soft girder]

then work on cooking

[mossy anvil]

Why not work on both

[soft girder]

i still lack the last 2 meals

[pulsar girder]

yeah sailing doesn't require any actual commitment

[soft girder]

i got hardstuck on cooking speed

needed the vman talent

[soft girder]

there is also that chow i totall forgot bout so imma work on that too

[pulsar girder]

i should probably cook something else lol 1d to upgrade yikes

[mossy anvil]

i started cooking when i was in w6 coz i didnt touch anything in w4 except lab xd

[pulsar girder]

my friend told me to really try to keep cooking/breeding going the whole time and i think it paid off

[mossy anvil]

ofc

[soft girder]

lab is rly easy once u have the meals and stamps

[soft girder]

i hate breeding lol

[pulsar girder]

we got some guys at lv33 for div now. soon they will reach 40. soon they will be free

[soft girder]

im neglecting divinity till i get some decent bonuses for it

[mossy anvil]

looking better in those 3 days

[soft girder]

i unlocked all main gods

[pulsar girder]

i was hard focusing div points until i got omniphau and now i got two div exp meals a stamp and a bubble and am hard focusing div exp until tranqi

[soft girder]

just need some ranks up

[pulsar girder]

at which point multitool stamp is inevitable and they can go uhhhh in the hole? idk.

[soft girder]

honestly if u got all gods i think no need to do div till u get good bonuses

[pulsar girder]

would you slam this all on monument or save for next rotation

[mossy anvil]

u want multitool up all the time

[mossy anvil]

those wont give u much

[vast nebula]

can someone help me come back to the game i havent played in like 800 days

[mossy anvil]

i mean lacking balls

better put into bones

[pulsar girder]

interesting i thought i saw people talking about this rotation like monument was the only thing in it lol

[white path]

I need a new arcade rotation

[soft girder]

dust and bones are decent

[mossy anvil]

bones, monument, dust and medalions are good, if u have those maybe u can consider W essence

[late cradle]

Pick 1 dude that will have been farming money, max out vault as much as you can, repeat till satisfied

[mossy anvil]

are silver pocketwatches even worth getting from weekly boss?

[strange prism]

thats huge

[mossy anvil]

its 15 min

[strange prism]

far better then my progression

[strange prism]

its a

[mossy anvil]

ahh my alch

[strange prism]

+1 slab

[mossy anvil]

ye i just bought one for slab

[polar geyser]

this is now my highest bubble by like 30 levels

[late cradle]

Past slab, only if you just really want to adjust your daily reset time

[strange prism]

this is where 1 day got me

[mossy anvil]

i do not

[mossy anvil]

still progress

[honest cradle]

HIgher numbers than I have

[mossy anvil]

do i max dust or just wait for new rota

[strange prism]

sleeping on equinoix

[mossy anvil]

its not like im gonna farm dust before afk dust i think

my equinox rate is ok for now

[strange prism]

[mossy anvil]

where do u see it

[strange prism]

[strange prism]

dust one helps, cant lie

luk is terrible tho, pushed it for more dr and went up .01x lmao

[mossy anvil]

yes

[polar geyser]

okay wait im relocked back in, @true hamlet you said about people pushing to leeks in skilling gear, do you think its worth me just scrapping my amarok now then and getting skilling gear for all my guys, putting stones for accuracy, could then use it for prints etc and since people can do it the amarok doesnt offer a ton, and then work on troll gear?

[mossy anvil]

uhh

[polar geyser]

would you like some more context to before

[mossy anvil]

he meant that they have no problems with stats so they can push w6 in skilling gear

i also did push in skilling gear

but if u consider removing amarok to get skilling gear i would say no, dont do it

[honest cradle]

I should just open game put bubo one auto and filter all drops except keys and statues and let it run for a week

Alchemy will take off im sure

[polar geyser]

i mean i dont plan on pushing incredibly atm, just was gonna do the stage 1 for levels etc

but also i see, i appreciate the follow up advice

[strange prism]

Monument > Bones > Equinox > Medallion > Dust > Nugget > Essence > Worship > Luck

[mossy anvil]

imo just filter mob mats

medalion

is it really THAT bad to get them

[polar geyser]

i havent actually touched too much into the filter yet ngl

[white path]

didn't even put nugget on that list, the disrespect

[strange prism]

its kinda buns ngl

[white lintel]

Nah

Nugget is nugget

[strange prism]

there its in the list

[honest cradle]

ITs the shiny new thing ofc y ou gotta get it

[strange prism]

believe its ~1 in 80k w6

[honest cradle]

The medallion/dust

[strange prism]

and thats with people in w6 so theyre sweats, cant imagine the odds with low DR

[mossy anvil]

[polar geyser]

ive got so much to try and sort now, i havent even touched into PO on like all my classes except 2

need to resetup my traps a bit

[strange prism]

Dust doesnt have gambit like bones though so ig you could go dust before medallions, but medallions is damage and damage is the issue in w5 so idk

[mossy anvil]

20k gballs not enough

[strange prism]

My pos been fed purely by atoms, I don't blame you

[white path]

[polar geyser]

i mean i havent even like added boxes to the accounts

[strange prism]

32.2k to max

[white path]

32457 to be exact

[strange prism]

did you max the arcade lol

[mossy anvil]

[white path]

didn't blue ball but yes

[strange prism]

ig it depends

oh im dumb

[strange prism]

fair

[polar geyser]

also i forgot to ask is there a way to reset po boxes, i feel like there is and i saw it before but ive forgotten

[strange prism]

blue balled

[white path]

lord of the hunt questline, otherwise events (and gemshop?)

[strange prism]

there indeedo is

not sure its really worth it tho

depends on how badly you mess up

[polar geyser]

thats my BB's atm just to get the dmg increase for w5 boss

idk if the first 3 are bad or alright

[strange prism]

the drops not really as important, but that looks fine tbh

if you do reset, youd want to go into skill first

[polar geyser]

okay good good, i just wasnt sure cause i thought it would have been better to throw every box into DR for now

i really need to go back through and stalk like some peoples profiles again

[strange prism]

I can understand that thinking, but skillings huge you for right now

[mossy anvil]

my myriad almost maxed

[strange prism]

EH?!

cheater

[mossy anvil]

[strange prism]

OH HES A LIAR

[mossy anvil]

"almost"

[white path]

i'm 74% of the way there

[strange prism]

wasting my time

more limited CC time has been wasted

[mossy anvil]

i got previous ones too, just myriad left

my hand will never recover from clicking

[mossy anvil]

shouldnt have farmed bones and es

[strange prism]

just gonna consider mine maxed

[mossy anvil]

i will wait for atom collider to do the job for me

[white path]

can't forget vault too

[strange prism]

vault?

[mossy anvil]

huge

[strange prism]

309 a day

only.. 301 days of atoms to max myriad

[mossy anvil]

tbh its not much

[strange prism]

thats longer then I've been playing

might have to do some PO after CC week

[mossy anvil]

u drop game for some time and it will be done when u come back

[strange prism]

shii if we dont get an update soon that might happen

[mossy anvil]

who was that

[mossy anvil]

we get update soon. 15th

[strange prism]

dam we went from weekly to monthly to bi monthly

[white path]

update tomorrow or the day after tomorrow

[mossy anvil]

[white path]

don't quote me on it and defininetly don't note it down

[pulsar girder]

i hope its not just end of w6 stuff cause i'm not there yet lol

nightmare hypothetical patch notes:

1. added new content late in w6 where gary can't see it
2. revamped the lab rotation and updated the upcoming jewel and chip rotation and choco chip isn't coming by til october now

[strange prism]

usually on 21st-29th

[strange prism]

its supposed to be another masterclass

then w7 would be 2 months later

[pulsar girder]

hell yeah gimme

[strange prism]

another masterclass would be cool, but I want w6 boss

[strange prism]

[strange prism]

John (late mid game) - 5/29/2025 at 4:47 PM
"update tomorrow or the day after tomorrow "

[mossy anvil]

[strange prism]

be sure to spread the word

[mossy anvil]

jio would be shocked

[strange prism]

side note, +50 yellow belt feels impossible

[mossy anvil]

i dont need to turn off autotrash while farming pristines right

coz im not getting any

[strange prism]

Tutorial in Idleon
Boss of misinformation

[strange prism]

na they still show with auto on

[mossy anvil]

my sneaking is bugged then

[strange prism]

na pristines are just hard to get

[polar geyser]

i just watched an arcade ball get purple portal and bounce back to silver

[strange prism]

thats how it is sometimes

gold hits portal, drops back into gold

[polar geyser]

i knowww but how you gonna go from that far right, all the way back to silvers

it hit left 8 times in a row

[white lintel]

Reverse jackpot

[polar geyser]

honestlyyyy

i was just about to say if it went right im in the money

[keen lynx]

Any point to pushing rift after floor 56?

[strange prism]

prep for future updates

[true hamlet]

Tome score too

Tome score = dr

[midnight bison]

if u want that much Dr go push 5 more sanctums

[true hamlet]

Unfortunate

😂

[midnight bison]

go push more wisdom hours then

[mossy anvil]

i know faster way

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-smacking-credit-card-on-table-gif-21340324

[true hamlet]

What's the point, I keep clicking on tiles I know is wrong, more attempts won't help

[midnight bison]

oh ewll

[strange prism]

Jars + Statue is most of your xp tbh

[true hamlet]

Surely my farming is close to ramping..

Yeah, but I'm too weak to do statues

[strange prism]

Surely

[white path]

whos this John guy and why is he lying

[strange prism]

Good ol gets the answer but finds an excuse

[true hamlet]

Excuse the scattershot farming

[true hamlet]

Not yet, soon

[strange prism]

mm

[true hamlet]

I want to get dragon warrior to up my stats first

[strange prism]

will jump a lot with dragon

[true hamlet]

I should finish 10k justice the moment I unlock c15, can move everyone there

[strange prism]

hows your jars doing

[true hamlet]

Decent, haven't resetted yet

[strange prism]

okay so youre definitely doing well there

and you focused the right one, thats good

[mossy anvil]

U should be in bilions no?

[strange prism]

might not have samurai

wait

[true hamlet]

750m xp per hour, I've also got like 2.13x on villager extracurricular

Yeah I don't

I love sammyless hole

[strange prism]

Do you have blues setup

[mossy anvil]

How your grimore is looking

[true hamlet]

Same stage as yours lol

[strange prism]

dam its pretty much all due to samurai then ngl

[true hamlet]

Yep

[mossy anvil]

Writhing?

[true hamlet]

Accuracy IV

The one after grimoire

[mossy anvil]

Ye so the same

[strange prism]

depends on how you balance your upgrades

[strange prism]

does that buff xp?

[mossy anvil]

It does

[strange prism]

idk what ~most upgrades~ would imply lmao

[mossy anvil]

It doesnt boost opals

[strange prism]

mm

[true hamlet]

All those with the yellow indenture

[strange prism]

idk what else aside from samurais tbh

[true hamlet]

The yellow tint on the top left of the upgrades

[high osprey]

!merit 4

[true hamlet]

Gem opals frfr

[strange prism]

Im at 3.6b/hr with 55 opals

idk if samurai would do that

[true hamlet]

Does sanctum not give xp?

[strange prism]

do you have arcade done

[true hamlet]

Aparently not

[mossy anvil]

Monument does also

[true hamlet]

Nah, left rotation the day I got the goods 😂

[strange prism]

pretty sure sanctum is all DR

[mossy anvil]

And dmg

[true hamlet]

And class exp, I checked, no vill xp

[strange prism]

measurer

[true hamlet]

Close enough

[strange prism]

thats kinda big

[true hamlet]

I guess my slab won't be as crazy as yours

[strange prism]

kinda

[true hamlet]

Pretty sure it's additive lol

[mossy anvil]

Biggest boost is Onyx ststues with dragon

[strange prism]

well you dont get high xp by ignoring things

[true hamlet]

I'm at 9 lol

[strange prism]

theres bell, but its dog cheeks for xp

[true hamlet]

Better to get lamp stuffs

Probably monuments

[strange prism]

ya monuments is good

mines kinda low

[mossy anvil]

Isn't villager xp in wisdom ass?

[true hamlet]

My bravery is better lol

[white path]

I don't pick villager xp in wisdom because of how limited wisdom chests are

[mossy anvil]

That's what i mean

[true hamlet]

Yeah

[mossy anvil]

There are better choices

[strange prism]

hmm let me just tell the game to only give me the best things

[mossy anvil]

Should have done it smh

[glass lantern]

does anyone know where the sheet for what to print is ?

[mossy anvil]

U print what u need no?

[strange prism]

this is why I have high villager from wisdom

[hollow cave]

oh wow that's 12x higher than the old value, that is gonna take me a good while to reach

the exp to C15 that is

[strange prism]

honestly not missing much without c15, getting the others maxed first is best

[hollow cave]

yea still needa get C14 unlocked which I think is in a couple days from now

[glad fox]

What is the easiest way to get power statues

[cosmic glade]

Crystal farm at beans

[strange prism]

running out of bubbles to hourly click, idk what to do

boring

[mossy anvil]

How this dude in w5 chat has so many pickles

[strange prism]

its a word that cant be used in this disc

retaehc

na its just edited lmao

[hollow cave]

it's not edited most likely, just a display bug

sometimes shop items overwrite the visual with another item until you scroll up or down

[warm grove]

happens sometimes

[strange prism]

could be that too

[warm grove]

if you buy it, gives you the other item

[hollow cave]

it does look quite goofy but yea the price is likely from something in W4/5 shop I think

[warm grove]

probably potions since its hundreds of thousands

[hollow cave]

yea

[strange prism]

ya never know

[warm grove]

nah I know, i'm a knower

[strange prism]

30

[warm grove]

uhh lemme check

[hollow cave]

8.4 I think I'm at or something

[strange prism]

probably

[hollow cave]

does the study have a limit?

[warm grove]

just under 24

[strange prism]

why

[warm grove]

they are good

[strange prism]

ngl youre account confuses me

[warm grove]

you enhanced lamp gains?

[polar geyser]

okay so i did some stone upgrades and got 6 of my classes to have 100% accuracy on the spirits, theyre only on like 1k kills per hour, but thats like 15,000m exp per hour and theyre only needing like 200m per level

[strange prism]

is that even a thing

[warm grove]

wait is there even one for lamp?

[polar geyser]

i need one more shop reset to get my archers on it cause i dont have the spare stones

[strange prism]

no lol

[warm grove]

there isn't yeah

the hell? how do you get 44? gotta be bugged or something because that's high

[strange prism]

pretty much the only buff

what in the world are you trying to ask us

[warm grove]

still you shouldn't have 44

your account is rather confusing

[strange prism]

whats your study rate

[strange prism]

doesnt even sounds legit ngl

[warm grove]

smh rose havers I guess

[strange prism]

no rose is ass

[hollow cave]

rose?

[strange prism]

I have rose lmao

[warm grove]

this is my trash without any good collectables

[strange prism]

things terrible

[hollow cave]

or I should clarify what I mean, what is rose

[warm grove]

only 2 you need are rose and minceraft

rose is a collectable from jars that increases study rate

[strange prism]

its not an all around multi, it only interreacts with some sources

[warm grove]

still i'd rather have it than not

[strange prism]

mincraft

[warm grove]

minceraft is the best

[hollow cave]

ah I see is that from the second page?

[strange prism]

na you should be invested in purely mincraft

[warm grove]

well I don't got either of them because i'm unlucky

[strange prism]

between 3 24ks and needing like 50k in bravery, you'll never buff rose

[hollow cave]

makes sense, I am still a good ways off second page (both in terms of pot unlocks and schematics)

[warm grove]

the people with over 100k in bravery would disagree

[strange prism]

yup weird account

[strange prism]

is that you? no? then rose is bad

[warm grove]

still would like any good collectables though

[strange prism]

WEIRD ACCOUNT MAN

[warm grove]

whats wrong with this picture?

[hollow cave]

is the 30% villager EXP on the first set a good one to enchant? or would there be a better target prior to having second page

[strange prism]

hes got more crops, 44 wishes a day, but doesnt know what minecraft does

[warm grove]

villager exp while pushing caverns yeah usually

more crops than what?

but yeah the rest is strange

[strange prism]

WEIRD ACCOUNT

[warm grove]

have you ever sat at a monument?

[strange prism]

IM TELLING YOU

[warm grove]

then you should know how good it is

[strange prism]

whats your monument hours

nope

I refuse to believe this

[warm grove]

all of them

[strange prism]

do you have minecraft

whats your multi

mm

[warm grove]

breh ain't no way

[strange prism]

youd need to reset if you want to buff minecraft

[shut hull]

It's called Minceraft Gem

[strange prism]

not sure how you got 23 into rose and enough into minecraft to pull 540

[warm grove]

same thing

[shut hull]

No it's not

[warm grove]

yep

[strange prism]

telln ya something aint right

[warm grove]

same thing because everybody knows what they are talking about when saying either

Manny's account is cursed, half of it is schlop and the other half is unbelievable

[strange prism]

right

focusing the odd and slacking in the normal

[warm grove]

I forgot just how bad mobile idleon is

[strange prism]

44 wishes is insane

[shut hull]

Per day or right now

[warm grove]

my CC's when down from like 650k to 480k. same spot at tremors btw

[strange prism]

per day

my ccs pretty random, its either 600k or 680k

[shut hull]

That's not too random

[strange prism]

suppose

[warm grove]

it shouldn't deviate that much, usually only a 30-40k diff due to crystals and current setup

still better than mobile gains I guess

[strange prism]

im about to finish this one ill see what it pulls

need better crystal

[strange flare]

There’s a lot of rng +/- 10% seems pretty reasonable

[sullen hill]

I’ll be releasing my fits from bravery hell next week

[shut hull]

How's your chiz card

[sullen hill]

Will hopefully have like 150k hours at this point

[strange prism]

?

[shut hull]

For shrine bonus

[strange prism]

oh shrine %

[strange flare]

Even mine is better

[strange prism]

whoops wrong shrine UI

[polar geyser]

question about IE's Salt Deficiencys stuff what does it mean

[warm grove]

each cycle that's how much salt you gain/lose

[strange prism]

means your red needs to go up 24 in production

[warm grove]

also your ranks are cooked

[shut hull]

It means you do not have enough production

[polar geyser]

i see i see

[strange prism]

in simple terms, turn off orange for a bit or keep it at 10%

no more ranking orange

[polar geyser]

my ranks are cooked, it took a while before i realised how the rank up worked

[craggy oxide]

this is gonna take a few days to fix, putting it mildly

[polar geyser]

few days is okay

ive got a lot of time

[craggy oxide]

well, 'few' is really underselling it.

[polar geyser]

i mean i am sitting on like such a small amount of salts in general tbh

[teal finch]

Is the pet battle stuff on the guide sheet that goes around still good for the w6 territory battles? What pet power level if so? I tried both nuke and looter setups around ~70k and no luck

Lullaby airways btw

[polar geyser]

its fixable, its not really like too deep into it

[strange prism]

geezus

have you been playing with your eyes closed

[red compass]

3 nuke on prelast and forager, on last u burger and nuke or wtv

[polar geyser]

yeah i wasnt joking when i said it took a while for me to realise

[strange prism]

ya dont rank blue or orange for like 3 months

[craggy oxide]

yeah, it's definitely fixable. You can't permanently break salts

[polar geyser]

i was mid world 4 before i realised how rankup worked, cause i had it set on auto 50% since i hit world 3 cause i clicked through it and then forgot

[white path]

vault causes the issue

[warm grove]

nah people been doing that since ages ago

[hollow cave]

I was basically the reverse with salts, I didn't rnak them up for longer than I should've since I was worried about making some horrific ratio since I realized the potential for mistake but didn't actually look at it

[polar geyser]

not even just the vault i just completely neglected the account knowingly, to push for w6 early and work backwards, thats why im going back through things like ie now

[hollow cave]

but after checking I realized the ratios were pretty simple to deal with and actually ranked them up

[craggy oxide]

this is a perfectly fine and valid approach.

[shut hull]

I just rank up if I feel like it

[hollow cave]

I basically have Red and Green always trying to rank with others ranking as is safe to around that framework

[polar geyser]

my brain was trying to work through too many things at once while pushing at the same time, my brain went, need to get blues so i can work on kraken for worship, then forgot about it and just ranked it up as i saw it max

[strange prism]

Dam whos this quack fella

[polar geyser]

similar with other things tbf, my traps are heavily lacking, my skulls are lacking

[strange prism]

you wouldnt... by chance be duck would you

[shut hull]

John?

[warm grove]

never heard of em'

[strange prism]

No I dont think so

been trying to find him recently

surely that cant be him

[warm grove]

quack is this your cousin by chance? 🐴

[polar geyser]

also i forgot to ask cause shadow was like challenging me to do a speedrun after getting vman so im curious now what is like an average first speedrun portal amount

[warm grove]

been looking around the barnyard for a few people

[warm grove]

probably 25-30 i'd imagine

[white path]

no, i'm not cousins with that liar

[strange prism]

been trying to confront someone of their words, he went missing shortly after being quoted

[polar geyser]

interestinggg okay yeah im quite a bit behind on that then too

[red compass]

30-40 u can get if u use the mman talent

one step ahead or wtv

[warm grove]

I have no actual clue, but that's what i'd imagine it would be

[hollow cave]

my first speedrun I think was around 20-22, though I also didn't have nobisect at such point I Think (might be thinking of second so could see it being a bit lower than that)

[white path]

good luck man

[strange prism]

Watching you "quack"

[polar geyser]

yeah i hit 16 first run, but i also forgot about the boss sp, so i did nightmare w1 boss and realised it contributed nothing

[red compass]

also depends how early u get vman, and how much u tryhard speedrun. like u tp every map? u walk? etc etc

[white path]

wait what why? i'm not cousins with that guy

[strange prism]

wonder if I should cc at clammies for dr cake stuff

[warm grove]

nah do the plunderous at clammies

[strange prism]

Hmm you make a convincing argument

[polar geyser]

i cant actually remember if i ran any part of me feels like i did, which took up quite a bit of time for sure but started tp'ing at some point aswell

[strange prism]

its CC week

[warm grove]

after I mean

[strange prism]

mmm

I see

[craggy oxide]

why plunderous?

[white path]

[strange prism]

I only need 95,050 more

[warm grove]

so you can farm pearls and do plunderous at the same time

[shut hull]

Is it worth it

[strange prism]

not looking forward to the costs

[strange prism]

the vial? meh, was just the quickest place to see how many I had

[strange flare]

[white path]

my real name is actually Bob

Quack is my ducks name

[warm grove]

knew I could find my portal count somewhere

[strange prism]

[warm grove]

honestly couldn't remember it so I check the leaderboards or you can't find it in IT I don't think

[strange flare]

Wow! It’s trash!

[strange prism]

honestly the ghosts are the main annoyance

[white path]

I might be on that leaderboard if I uploaded

[strange prism]

doesnt account for gfood % but ya its not great

[shut hull]

Wiki needs more gfood bonus

[warm grove]

you have 92 portals?

[strange prism]

its definitely not right lmao

thats 156

[warm grove]

yeah it calculates the base

[strange prism]

thats 10k

indeedo, its missing this

[warm grove]

which makes sense, but would be nice if it could add your bonus as a separate argument

man you got an entire 1k% more than me

these ribbons need to get to work I guess

[strange flare]

I’m probably not even at 1k% yet

[strange prism]

stamps 84

[white path]

i'm also trying to get a higher ribbon on it

[warm grove]

my stamps 116

[strange prism]

ribbons 16

[white path]

mine is 13

[warm grove]

lvl 13 ribbon giving me 1317%

[warm grove]

damn it almost doubles over 13?

[warm grove]

oh yeah meal % shinies as well, mine are only like lvl 13 or so

well that and summoning ones

[timid bison]

I’m swapping over to this chat to ask cause w2 chat doesn’t know either. Can anyone help me fix my shimmer challenges?

[warm grove]

how so?

resets weekly, and then you can claim once per week

[timid bison]

I’m on my archer, the challenge is for archer to deal damage, I attack the dummy, the damage number stays at 0

[warm grove]

make sure to not open any menus

wait for the bar to empty before stopping attacking or doing anything else

then it will set the number

[timid bison]

Okay, one sec then

[night oracle]

[warm grove]

working on my shiny speed guys rn

[strange prism]

I need to put better ribbons on evo

[warm grove]

I need more ribbons period

[white path]

the gambit bonus has been real nice

[warm grove]

sometimes it treats me good

[strange prism]

daaam

[strange prism]

dam thats pretty good

[warm grove]

just investing in my future time saved is all

[strange prism]

I invested in my sanity and ignore breeding all together

[polar geyser]

you know what IE made me feel good about one thing today

[sly nova]

Getting expensive 🗿

[warm grove]

yeah that's where I am at, haven't upgraded it for a WHILE

[strange prism]

love reviewer, makes me feel like im maxed years before I am : p

[sly nova]

Waiting for NSLB to proc

[night oracle]

Regalis our beloved

[warm grove]

jeweled regalis ftw

[strange prism]

double discount time

[polar geyser]

im just working on a list atm that i need to work on

[sly nova]

[strange prism]

reviewers mean

[warm grove]

reviewer be tweaking sometimes

[timid bison]

Nope, it didn’t work. I just won’t do them lol, thanks though Rei

[night oracle]

Tiny levels frfr

[strange prism]

EXCUSE ME >: (

[warm grove]

the hardest thing it wants me to do is to upgrade this stamp

[polar geyser]

alright i wrote out this, if anyone cares to read etc and spots something i might be missing feel free to let me know

[strange prism]

im content with 120

[warm grove]

it costs 148b sand to upgrade 5 more times

[sly nova]

[warm grove]

not sure how i'm supposed to afford the next 2 breakpoints

[strange prism]

ngl troll should be a side task as its force time gate

[polar geyser]

okay will move it over

[true hamlet]

reducer prob

[night oracle]

60 divinity ngl

[strange prism]

40 div n switch to tranqi

[polar geyser]

ahhhhh couldnt remember the numbers on it, my brain was saying any numbers between 50-90 for both of them

[warm grove]

with the reducer it costs like 3b now, imagine after 2 more upgrades

[night oracle]

That's 50

[strange prism]

aint no way

[polar geyser]

also at least i have this ready and waiting for when im working on gods

[strange prism]

why you messin with my brain

[night oracle]

Huh???

[true hamlet]

If you can get troll, you can get Kruk, go for it (Marbi if you're fine with donning skilling gear). Weapons, probably aim for kruk or marbi too.

You're on the right track for printing (remember to book skilling talents)

For divinity, get up to omniphau imo

50 Div for multitool stamp

[night oracle]

Is there nothing at 50 then?

[true hamlet]

stamp

[strange prism]

nada next is 60 then 80

[night oracle]

Ahhhh...

[true hamlet]

50 is just quest lol

[night oracle]

3 more days and then I will be getting those juicy gs sets

[alpine scarab]

nice

[true hamlet]

If I remember correctly, you recently hit 200 talent levels right? @polar geyser

[polar geyser]

booking good shout, i feel like i forget it sometimes, question about it, do you lot have like 135-145 max on your books in library still or is it increased later on aswell, cause i wasnt sure

[alpine scarab]

damn congrants

[polar geyser]

sadly notttt still rocking 140's max atm

[true hamlet]

I see, soon though

[polar geyser]

yeah for sure, the list is basically just to keep me from just afking in towns for too long which is what i did earlier

my brain started thinking of something i needed to work on that then lead down a massive like tree worth of branches of higher priorities and later stuff and i spent 1.5 hours on all 10 accounts in town and then just forgot it all

[true hamlet]

Hold up, stealth update?

[polar geyser]

new update?

[white lintel]

where is the armor npc?

[true hamlet]

idk, there's w6 boss buzz hehe

[strange prism]

?

huh?

[true hamlet]

and mane is streaming too

[strange prism]

wher does he see that? lmao

oh my game updated

well he stayed consistent with 29th updates

ooo theres set buffs now

oh no this updates kinda nuts

[warm grove]

da hell? no news but update drops?

[strange prism]

time to remake one of everything

[night oracle]

HUHH????

[alpine scarab]

guys UPDATE!!!

[night oracle]

I wanted to upgrade my summoning skulls and forgor

[strange prism]

lol

[night oracle]

Oh... Interesting

For early game

[strange prism]

that insanely op

[alpine scarab]

is web verson out?

[night oracle]

I feel like it's additive

[warm grove]

lmao p2w again

[alpine scarab]

fr

[warm grove]

f2p gotta wait 30 days

[alpine scarab]

got to wait 1 month

[night oracle]

For?

[warm grove]

armor smithy

[night oracle]

Oh

[polar geyser]

is that 2000 gems by itsself or would a pack worth that also work?

[warm grove]

if you have bought 2000 gems from anything, including packs i'd imagine

[night oracle]

Loading into samurai map now places you at the top instead of bottom

[craggy oxide]

is this another autoloot win?

[warm grove]

[true hamlet]

oh, so no update, nice

[warm grove]

can get all the cards in each fight too

still can fight the poss

[polar geyser]

wait is this for wearing the set or just having made the set?

[true hamlet]

basically no update lmao

[warm grove]

the boss I mean, get some cards

[night oracle]

That's busted

[true hamlet]

true true

[alpine scarab]

rip web has no update

[true hamlet]

should've just made the sets include gloves

[alpine scarab]

where the guy even at?

[warm grove]

samurai map

well the boss is

[alpine scarab]

wtb the anvil guy

[warm grove]

W3 town

read the new stuff tab in game

[alpine scarab]

web still dont have update sadly

[warm grove]

you play on web?

why not steam?

[night oracle]

My vman can't go yet

[rocky agate]

120m

[true hamlet]

just, click speedrun

problem solved

[night oracle]

Wdym

[warm grove]

can't click on the boss armor in the anvil

[true hamlet]

unlocks all the portals your other dudes unlocked

[true hamlet]

cooked

[night oracle]

Oh...

[night oracle]

Effaunt useful????

[true hamlet]

oh, efaunt helmet gives DR anyways, so it's always been a set tied to DR

makes sense

[strange prism]

LMAO

gg

[true hamlet]

what the f

it looks uglier than I could've ever imagined fr

it's not that bad

[polar geyser]

rei could i be a pest, can i get your IT again for more stalking

[true hamlet]

btw, kattle set

just saying

[warm grove]

sure, not updated for a bit until I finish my ccing but yeah

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=JustBetterthnU

[polar geyser]

thats okay youre a lot further ahead than i will be for a long time, its just general stalking things, so thank you

[warm grove]

lmao aight

nah the gs set reqs are evil

[true hamlet]

guess this will become BiS wings for f2p if I get it

[warm grove]

either I gotta get the gloves, OR get gs traps on someone that is not a vman

[true hamlet]

wild

[strange prism]

yikes need to makle another set of lustre

[polar geyser]

also i was so confused about how you lot were seeing the new update stuff i thought it was all coming from the stream, but i realised i just needed to restart i was still looking at the hole update

[true hamlet]

why not, you craft on someone else, then transfer to vman? does that not work?

[polar geyser]

this actually kinda benefits me cause everything i unlock from here basically unlocks it after

[true hamlet]

as in like craft on DK, then just move the traps and skulls over to vman

[warm grove]

only vman can equip the traps and skulls

because its way easier to get the lvl reqs on him

[true hamlet]

ah they have to be quipped? balloon time

[warm grove]

balloon trapping?

[true hamlet]

yeah

[warm grove]

yeah that ain't gonna work

[true hamlet]

lmfao

[strange prism]

worth it

[hardy sluice]

how do you give the sets to the npc?

[warm grove]

equip them, click on the armor pieces to see the reqs, then click the npc

[night oracle]

I'm already at showdown 6
Why is it bugged lava please fix

[strange prism]

[fathom thicket]

how do you farm so much pens

[night oracle]

Also how do the set buffs work? Is it just when equiped?

[strange prism]

oh new stuff to gain emporium too

[night oracle]

Or is it like perma unlocks

[warm grove]

perma I assume

[night oracle]

So you'll have to equip full set to unlock the buff?

[polar geyser]

i can go see

or wait are you meaning like are the buffs active even if youre not wearing the set

[warm grove]

as much as it says

[strange flare]

Bruh an update dropped? I can’t play until tomorrow

[strange prism]

[true hamlet]

from what I understand, you can get the buff f2p, but for it to be perma, you need to wait for the thing

[polar geyser]

what be the thing

[true hamlet]

get a new kruk set

[teal tinsel]

how does this thing work? do i just need to equip it?

[night oracle]

Where is that?

[polar geyser]

equip a full set and itll complete

[polar geyser]

w3

[strange prism]

?

[vital parrot]

Sheesh NEW UPDATE IS OUT

[night oracle]

Oh, nerds were blocking it

[strange prism]

arcade for those who havent checked yet

[polar geyser]

yeeee i struggled for 30 seconds and reread the new stuff to make sure

[vital parrot]

Ios will take days again

[strange flare]

Finally drop rate

[true hamlet]

whole lotta nothin

[strange flare]

Man im gonna have no clue what’s going on here

Oh well

[polar geyser]

with the smithy?

[white path]

beginner

[strange flare]

Yeah I don’t play till tomorrow and even then it’s a busy day

[polar geyser]

how my brain registers it, click set, see what it needs, put it on, set complete, free stats

can go to w3 click anvil next to prayer thing (will probably be blocked, kinda small) and see what sets you can make

[strange prism]

aint no way

[strange prism]

ya but what set is it

[cyan sequoia]

wait u equip the set and u get the buffs forever for everyone?

400 tenti back on the menu

[strange prism]

all 6 tools for godshard is criminal

[cyan sequoia]

skull was still a bit off

[strange prism]

I dont have the trapping levels for godshard

[strange prism]

ahhh

[cyan sequoia]

no new bundle I guess if ur seeing giftmas

[night oracle]

Yea

It was a pop-up bundle

[strange prism]

thats super easy for that buff

[polar geyser]

free 200 arcade balls though

[night oracle]

[white path]

100k dark lanterns is easy?

[night oracle]

Also new shop+2.5x gold balls

[robust marsh]

Yo w6 boss appeared when I was sleeping

[strange prism]

ah didnt see the mittons

[night oracle]

Literally just now

[white lintel]

Tome still not updated

[robust marsh]

Ye I just woke up