midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[limpid bough]

just the thought of w4 and w5 td makes me nauseous

[thorny zinc]

i feel u

lmao

[limpid bough]

no building left behind when

[thorny zinc]

and yeah it gives

[limpid bough]

WOWIE ZOWIE

[coral plume]

Feel like I know the answer but is there anyway to skip getting the kills for portal on none vman

[limpid bough]

with 22k I can craft all I need-

[thorny zinc]

THIS IS THE BEST HAT I EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE

[native forge]

wdym none vman

[cerulean cipher]

that indeed seems like a good one

[coral plume]

Like on my bubo

[thorny zinc]

not for stats lol

[cerulean cipher]

i <3 bubo

[regal marlin]

none vman with left wizard

[brisk warren]

oh ma gaw that does look awesome

[cerulean cipher]

the best armour i got atm is dementia, i don't wanna upgrade :<

[native forge]

not really, if you do a speedrun on vman, he gets the portals unlocked the furthest as your dudes had

[thorny zinc]

just wait for troll

[soft girder]

guys is bamboo forest the last fight in pets?

[cerulean cipher]

trol what 😭

[thorny zinc]

those

[soft girder]

cause im missing some recipes and idk why

[cerulean cipher]

oh god

[native forge]

See it's the dementia influence

[regal marlin]

other than maxing AFK Fighting and then candying there's no way to cheese it for the other classes

[limpid bough]

did you affect the number at all by using DK or smth? and also what tier chest?

[native forge]

no, last is dharma mesa

[cerulean cipher]

i mean, i don't have em unlocked yet

so i wouldn't know

[soft girder]

why cant i see it tho?

[coral plume]

Yea thats what I thought oh well can't be lazy hes gonna need to do the hole world then lol

[soft girder]

do i have to unlock it somehow?

[regal marlin]

You can't see dharma mesa until you get to egg map, but it only covers one recipe

[native forge]

you have to get to respective map in w6 first.

[warm grove]

Gotta unlock more maps in w6

[soft girder]

oh damn

[soft girder]

i miss 2 meals

[regal marlin]

If you are missing more than one recipe and you have all other spices you should be able to make what you're missing

what are you missing then

or rather where's your missing one

[native forge]

probably nyanborgir and burned marshmallow

[night oracle]

It's happy hour but I'm still not happy
Lava please fix

[vital parrot]

I got 6 elite classes what’s the best to push

[soft girder]

oh welp

[limpid bough]

Divine Knight

[native forge]

me after ordering happy meal :

[night oracle]

[regal marlin]

oh, duh, sorry I forgot about Lullaby Airways

You have to get to Ceramics in W6 to get that one

so yeah just keep progressing W6 and you can get the last two spices

Wait it might be leeks. It's either ceramics or leeks

[neon crow]

is there someplace in auto review that shows the best upgrades for a character's damage currently?

[regal marlin]

library tells you priority combat books for each player

I'd assume whatever's high tier in that

[mossy anvil]

Bruh

[neon crow]

looking for alchemy/stamp/meal etc

[worn raptor]

hum

[neon crow]

maybe you missed alchemy bubble which would be an easy upgrade for damage. or many an agility stamp

[regal marlin]

oh... no, I don't think it breaks it out like that

[cyan sequoia]

shadow needs to make a where to get damage infographic next

[mossy anvil]

Bro let him fix his account first

[white path]

shadow made the accuracy one?

[mossy anvil]

Yea

With people in the chat here

[past hedge]

should i max out flurbos shop before focusing on rings?

[full beacon]

not necessarily max, but best 5 yes

need it for equi

[past hedge]

what best 5?

[full beacon]

let me go look

[mossy anvil]

Afk gains for sure

[full beacon]

afk gains
weapon power
talent points
class exp
skilling exp

maybe???

I can't really imagine needing acc/def if you're in a position to be maxing flurbo stats

[past hedge]

alr

also how can i get more flurbos

[full beacon]

just run dungeon

[past hedge]

i just did my weekly and i got 2k

[full beacon]

if you buy the gem shop upgrade (or just skip weeks) you can do happy hour for x20

and if you go with a full party of 10, that should be like 20k+ flurbos

I don't necessarily recommend x40, higher risk but also less cards in the long term

ppl who hate dg will skip weeks to do x40 tho

[past hedge]

i see

i kinda like doing doungeons i think ill keep doing the 13x that i can every week

[full beacon]

yea you should see those decrementing 3 at a time if you're doing them during happy hour

in a party of 3+

[past hedge]

also when should i unlock equinox?

i am almost w5 and didnt really bother

[full beacon]

what are your copper/iron/oak/bleach prints like

if you can get 10m of those easily you can supplement the rest of your gstacks with shop purchases

[pulsar girder]

if its like a candy to go in why not go unlock it

[past hedge]

yea im very far away from gstacking

[vital parrot]

Can es improve the chance of crystal mob dropping for crystallim

[past hedge]

i can print 10k oak

[full beacon]

chance for the mob itself to spawn? no

chance for the item to drop when you kill? I think you want dk for that

[vital parrot]

How do you see the chance of crystal mob

[white path]

ie or it

[strange prism]

second ones buffed by alch and another skill

[vital parrot]

Where in it

[vital parrot]

Where can i see it in IT

[strange prism]

characters, stats

addictions to the fish steer

geezus

[pulsar girder]

we gotta pump these numbers up these are amateur numbers

[strange prism]

oh no

[worn raptor]

omg my eyes

[soft girder]

ah crap

[strange prism]

did you not exalt the stamp

[soft girder]

do u not have card doublers?

[mossy anvil]

po box?

[soft girder]

shrine?

[strange prism]

Work on these

[pulsar girder]

stamp's exalted just not leveled, PO box is only at 200/400, shrine's at like level 10, cards are not there

[strange prism]

the star talents pretty big tbh

cards n shrine is fair tbh

slow at the start

[vital parrot]

Only poop do crystal chance?

[hexed shoal]

What the fuck are all these reactions💀

[strange prism]

youre gonna be relying on stamp and star talent for a bit

[pulsar girder]

and this one

[strange prism]

idek man

[mossy anvil]

4 star is at least

[hexed shoal]

Bro did you just become famous for a few secs

[strange prism]

ah sht I hit 24k on justice and still ignore it

[mossy anvil]

he always been

its our little celebrity here

[pulsar girder]

yeah i think i'm getting more out of cash farming rn than snelbie card farming -> dr card farming -> crystal chance farming but i gotta do that soon

[strange prism]

Im just the reaction test dummy

[hexed shoal]

I'm the little food stand guy here

[full beacon]

you're the forsaken

[little echo]

Should I upgrade my tools with main-stat for dmg/skill efficiency or sub stat for accuracy? I'm not really sure what's worth in the long run

[worn raptor]

me too

[hexed shoal]

I'm guest 666

[pulsar girder]

lol i'm on like rift 26 i'm going to be at the top of this hotel forEVER before i can prestige

[strange prism]

main

well depends on where youre at tbh

[little echo]

Just got to W5, currently doing Divinity

[full beacon]

I haven't even prestige yet, just grinding straw hats on floor 1

[strange prism]

hmm

if you dont have an acc issue id say main stat then

[little echo]

If I push, I suppose I'll do it with DK and he doesn't have acc struggles yet 👀

[full beacon]

150% of required?

[little echo]

For W4 i'm sure he had 150%, I haven't checked for W5

I'll do his tools for acc just to be sure tho

[strange prism]

if the tools kinda lower tier you can run sub stat if acc is an issue since the stones reset when you make a new tool

but you mostly want the main stat on tools for prints n such

[full beacon]

wow wiki still down

[dense fable]

how does this happen ( Platinum Agility not in slab )

[full beacon]

what they doing over there

[strange prism]

packs

[dense fable]

no, I crafted it

[full beacon]

often actually. slab just really buggy

[dense fable]

today

[full beacon]

for obols go touch slab literally

that's what worked for me

[hexed shoal]

Doesn't it need to be picked up?

[strange prism]

that is slab

[dense fable]

I didn't pick up this, but it's in slab

[full beacon]

I mean upon crafting lol

he'll have to redo it

[strange prism]

sometimes I need to use the obol for it to acknowledge it

[dense fable]

I guess I craft again platinum

[full beacon]

it's cheap anyways

no biggie

[strange prism]

have you ever bought obols or obtained them from arcade?

[dense fable]

nope

I crafted all of them today, I am doing them for slab

[full beacon]

you'll end up with like 25k frags at the end of your statue grind, unless you're exceptionally lazy and filter the moment you're done with dice/pop grind lmao

[native forge]

might be so that they have to remain a bit in your inv ,i dont have some of lesser tier ,but i remember getting most of them to sparkle

[dense fable]

I'm spending them as I get them XD

[full beacon]

dw it goes ham

you need 200k power statues for your acc

[little echo]

Is this worth it or will it totally drain me of ores?

[strange prism]

it only replaces ores already in forge, so if nothings in there nothing will happen

[full beacon]

you can also ignore it until you know for sure you're chillin

like 100k copper prints and whatever

[little echo]

Maybe I'll should do it with dementia and plat so I have ores for the tools and armor

[full beacon]

higher ores smelt pretty slow anyways

[little echo]

The consequences of skipping amarok are showing 😛

[full beacon]

you prob won't empty out

[strange prism]

1 chest time

[full beacon]

fkin hate that so much

I got 2 chests at case 60 last night

[pulsar girder]

oh no i used like 50 teleports today i gotta chill

[native forge]

now reroll your kruks pretty

[strange prism]

want some

[pulsar girder]

yes

[night oracle]

Try rolling your emperor obols when you get some

[strange prism]

[full beacon]

good omen

[odd osprey]

Yo that's big brain lol

[dense fable]

O, right

what do I aim on Kruk reroll?

[full beacon]

if you're broke, +1% afk gains

if you're rich, +1% afk gains and +1 w.pow

[native forge]

6% gains

[limpid bough]

after i rank up my blue salts I think im gonna go to w5

the frigid souls from the colo fix everything

no more waiting for slow ass construction

[humble ether]

Any general W4 advice? I have 8 characters, 5 in lab, 1 in kitchen, cooking eggs to level up cooking speed. 2 chars clearing maps to level up multikill.

[strange prism]

welp thats a GG

[cyan sequoia]

dont need to be in kitchen to have it cook eggs, just getting laddles from it

[humble ether]

Yeah, he's grinding the ladles

[pulsar girder]

if you put even more people in the lab could you reach the 2x kill node? if you can i'd just do that and push w5 with one guy

[strange prism]

[night oracle]

F

[cyan sequoia]

cool keychain

[strange prism]

mid

[full beacon]

lol I went hard on arti chance, mine is like lvl 250... didn't know sov would finish up so quickly

[humble ether]

Interesting! The wiki is down, do you know which one that is?

[pulsar girder]

skull one fourth on bottom row here

[full beacon]

the one under the greek pillar I think

[humble ether]

Thanks, I'll check!

[pulsar girder]

bubo as leftmost connection to the prism for extra width also

which is connection range between players, not connection to nodes. the w4 merit can give you a couple pixels of connection to nodes if you're RIGHT there. its a really significant bonus to your speed at pushing to w5 and that's worth prioritizing cause it lets you get some new skills started

damn i can start clearing the clouds for the sailing island that has the fury relic (+25 book max level) but it would take days. tragic. i'll get faster soon enough but i was thinking i was closer than i am

i'm kinda just doing whatever in sailing lol its so annoying to figure out which boat is being sent where that i haven't really bothered trying to figure out which ones are my Good Boats and have them do tougher routes or whatever

[strange prism]

need to power level everyone

[night oracle]

What for?

[strange prism]

skill levels = bravery damage

also need to push hours for the other 2 sword unlocks

[cyan sequoia]

how many levels to make a difference

[strange prism]

honestly not a clue

[cyan sequoia]

I'm assuming its through measurer?

[strange prism]

more hours is gonna be huge

[native forge]

assuming the multi was around x3 on that one

[solid scroll]

Just hit w3 whats the first thing I should do?

[cyan sequoia]

I got justice and wisdom to 5k, started pushing bravery, dunno how far

[strange prism]

my braverys at 2500 lol

[pulsar girder]

at the shop buy a skull and a trap for every character and equip'em as tools. do the ice cream man's quests to unlock all the stuff

[strange prism]

I went for 24k justice first

[solid scroll]

ok thanks!

[cyan sequoia]

mine's above 5k but dont remember where, doing WW a lot to try and get the atom levels, got +1 but gotta push further for it to make sense to farm that dust

[strange prism]

[native forge]

monumental diffrence

[strange prism]

[pulsar girder]

and look up the Refinery in a bit more detail before pushing too many buttons at it. good to turn it on, not necessarily good to press "Refine" vs let it wait to fully charge and "Rank Up", which is good but you can do too much of it

[native trail]

uhh

[strange prism]

havent touched wisdom or bravery since monument multi was a thing

[strange prism]

hole skilling nodes?

[native trail]

idle skilling cross event

[cyan sequoia]

cant do too much rank ups on red so always rank that up

[strange prism]

ahhh ya

[pulsar girder]

which also means never hit "Refine" on red wait for it to be "rank up" always

[strange prism]

as if it didnt already take forever to complete idleskilling tasks, youre only allowed the claim 1 a day

[native trail]

What they’re so easy

whats this one for

what do i gotta do? i’ll do them early

[strange prism]

youre not even done yet and already calling it easy

[cyan sequoia]

from where-ever it is currently to 10k

[cyan sequoia]

think I'm at 1:10 hours for monu

[native trail]

ive done the card one too i just can’t claim

[strange prism]

congrats you've completed the first of many tasks

[worn raptor]

is is so easy

[night oracle]

Is it bad that I often don't use my daily skilling minigames?

[native trail]

yay

[native trail]

exactly

[strange prism]

I never do them lmao

[night oracle]

I haven't checked in on my idle skilling for weeks

[native trail]

lol u shud

[pulsar girder]

every once in a while i try to get the w1 achievements for high scores, fail, and go ah well

[strange prism]

maybe if you spend to push it

[worn raptor]

why, you have realm

[limpid bough]

the salt merit doesnt count red salt right? So if I bought 3 then itd go to green salt?

[pulsar girder]

sounds right

: )

[night oracle]

Yup, that's why you can only buy 5

[limpid bough]

sweet

[pulsar girder]

card farming is a thing you can do wtih ES right or is that a DK thing or what

[night oracle]

Almost!

[native forge]

both ,you'd need crystal farming on dk

[mint furnace]

what happened is there an update???

[native trail]

its idle skilling cross over codes being on cooldown

[worn raptor]

yeah, a 3 years old update

[mint furnace]

oh well
idk what that means very ok

[night oracle]

😭

[normal kernel]

What subclass should I pick for my 3rd archer?

[night oracle]

Very old update

[night oracle]

Go for a second siege breaker

[native trail]

akarui

how u get accuracy in this game bruh

[night oracle]

Which game

[native trail]

idle skilling

[kind wave]

The wiki seems to be down, or at least not loading for me, so just a quick question: Where do you get the upgrade to keep shrine level up progress when you move them? I've seen it somewhere but I can't recall now

[night oracle]

From sneaking

[kind wave]

Thanks!

[mossy anvil]

jade emporium

[night oracle]

Oh yeah that's the name of where you buy the upgrade

[worn raptor]

smithin, perks, alchemy

[native trail]

no way alchemy follows me even here

[night oracle]

Honestly I thought it's only from the sword skill

[native trail]

what in smithing

[hasty phoenix]

Whats the best place for the graveyard on bloques?

[night oracle]

I think bottom platform tbh

[worn raptor]

mb smithin don't give accuracy

why ppl play db active, that's why lava add afk bones lmao, weird

[native trail]

i just need a good reliable source

[worn raptor]

crusade

[worn raptor]

go to #off-topic-chat

[native trail]

ok

[mint furnace]

idk i only played active for the 1000 frags

[polar geyser]

its so close for world 1

[pulsar girder]

nice

[night oracle]

Bones go slow :(

[worn raptor]

just have patience

[night oracle]

My patience is only enough for 1 per hour

[worn raptor]

not your game

[mossy anvil]

here is real offtopic chat

[night oracle]

Also I used a stack of 90 at once on sheepies because I can't read

[night oracle]

But you can only get 1 per hour so it's barely enough patience

[mossy anvil]

bro its free neglect

[night oracle]

Real

Getting praised for neglecting

[zenith hare]

you do know that afk is literally the same rates as active

[night oracle]

I know yeah xD

[zenith hare]

as it scales on ur active rates

[night oracle]

Lava should add afk bones for while playing active too :)

[white lintel]

Afk bones are really really fast compared to active

[remote spruce]

!help

[candid scarab]

🚫 potopt, that command is disabled in this channel.

[pulsar girder]

i hate these "find 3 things in 60 minutes" rifts. they are punishing me for having dogshit DR

[zenith hare]

thats whats known as 2 db

[night oracle]

TRUEEE

[zenith hare]

no? ES can do it on 1x dr within 20/30 mins

es is a dr additive source via wormhole

he doesnt care ab ur dr

[pulsar girder]

oh i was doing it on dk lol

woops. next one i'll do es

[zenith hare]

yeah dk is trash for that mission

unless you alr have 30x dr or smth

[pulsar girder]

but yeah i'm ~25m in and 2/3 and my friend said it took him like 5-10

[zenith hare]

yeah thats what es takes

[limpid bough]

how do I figure out when I should rank up salts

[pulsar girder]

there's a more general instruction macro with the bot but this is helpful at first imo

[limpid bough]

I see

[meager matrix]

Try the pins 😉

[zenith hare]

thatd require reading~

[white lintel]

Where’s the reading guide

[zenith hare]

idk a childs book?

[cyan sequoia]

Arctis how much xp/hr should I have in divinity to start going for lvls?

[limpid bough]

I dont wanna wait for red salts again noooo

[white lintel]

Depends on what levels you’re looking for

[pulsar girder]

literally always wait on red salts

[cyan sequoia]

I got something like this

[zenith hare]

div 40 go brrr

[cyan sequoia]

that 170+ divinity thing for the talent lvls with arctis

[white lintel]

If you’re wanting 200 ish that different from 40

[limpid bough]

rn my red is at 6, orange at 3, blue at 1

[cyan sequoia]

I'm at about 130? I think

[pulsar girder]

always rank up red and when red gets to 8 you can push orange to 4 and when orange is 4 push blue to 2

[white lintel]

What are you pushing to?

[cyan sequoia]

191+2800 big p I think

I forgot if I needed +17 or +18

I have symbols at +24

[polar geyser]

is it always like a 2:1 going downwards then? so then push red to 10, then orange to 8 then blue to 4 then green to 2, orange to max, blue to 8 and green to 4 etc

[white lintel]

I’d recommend doing a higher big P so that xp req is less

[pulsar girder]

i think the rate of increase in cost increases every few ranks or something and there's a table on the wiki that shows when. i'm only at 11/6/3/6/3/1 myself so idk

with the increases increasing you'd want to level early ones more every so often

[polar geyser]

ohhhh i see i see

[jade surge]

hey guys, what skills should I focus on my DK when it comes to library books?
on that note, I have 2 dks, do i need to unlock the library books on each one? or do they transfer?

[polar geyser]

cause yeah ive just been ranking mine up as i get them focussing on reds

[cyan sequoia]

this is my grimoire, I'm about 30 lvls from the next upgrade - dunno if I'll reach that first or 190+div

[vital parrot]

Who can check my IT and see what i lack and gives me list of tips

[white lintel]

Here’s a rough estimate of xp required

[cyan sequoia]

I guess I'll just stick bubo in there alone, keep leveling big P and see which one gets there first, grimoire or divinity

[white lintel]

I’d recommend getting all the div sparks at least for the xp multi

[zenith hare]

@thorny zinc smh

have a guess which game

[white lintel]

Idleon?

[zenith hare]

nope

[white lintel]

Lol?

[zenith hare]

think i only have 1 idleon fried??

[white lintel]

Val

[thorny zinc]

enter the gungeon?

[zenith hare]

yus

[warm grove]

That’s 6 hours not spent on Idleon shadow

[thorny zinc]

wrong

[cyan sequoia]

he's multitasking

[warm grove]

Got them both up?

[thorny zinc]

i had idleon on too

[warm grove]

6 hours spent not cogging

[zenith hare]

smh

[thorny zinc]

💀

[cyan sequoia]

6 hours spent not whitescreening

[zenith hare]

imagine only getting to the obolete

[cyan sequoia]

absolute W

[zenith hare]

12 hours and only 5 achs??

[warm grove]

Still mad about that nugget. I even went outside that’s how mad I was

[thorny zinc]

[zenith hare]

excluding the annoying achs, im done

havent even had 50 runs yet

[white lintel]

Your like 1M increase?

[zenith hare]

(beaten first chamber only 45 times)

[thorny zinc]

Im getting bullied outside idleon too now im cooked

[white lintel]

Yea that stinks

[warm grove]

Yes, after 5K nuggets

[zenith hare]

i mean you do have 100% on terraria, which means 200 fishing quests

[warm grove]

Actually devious work by lava

[zenith hare]

i only have that on xbox rn

[thorny zinc]

in 2 days too

[zenith hare]

journey mode ftw

[thorny zinc]

nope

[zenith hare]

smh

[thorny zinc]

NORMAL MODE 💀

[zenith hare]

i did the 200 in 1.3

before bed sleeping

[warm grove]

Just do 500

[white lintel]

Expert or bust

[thorny zinc]

i bet rei would farm 1000 quests

[zenith hare]

expert always

[thorny zinc]

just to get in leaderboard

[zenith hare]

hell i did it on a hardcore run

[warm grove]

That’s why they call me the fish, you missed the story

[thorny zinc]

[zenith hare]

only have this smh

[warm grove]

My phones gonna die, that means I gotta go back home and do more GS vial

[limpid bough]

10 days to wait for red im gonna die

[thorny zinc]

le fish

[strange prism]

normal terraria

[zenith hare]

brb gonna 100% terraria

[warm grove]

You can stack up multiple quest fish if you don’t turn it in. Then put them all in a chest and only take 1 to the angler. Still takes in game days to wait but less moving around

[thorny zinc]

i played half of calamity as well but i got a bit bored + idleon

[zenith hare]

then probs gonna finish up inf % on isaac

[strange prism]

modded terraria is far better

[zenith hare]

I've played terraria for 13 years I think I know that

[thorny zinc]

real

[warm grove]

Well you don’t got the achieve so I don’t know

[zenith hare]

I said I did have it...on xbox

[warm grove]

Yeah yeah

[mossy anvil]

normal terraria was rought when master mode came out, empress of the light during day for achievement + terraprisma drop

[dense fable]

I got to 21.3x DR
what is my next "quest" to increase DR?

[thorny zinc]

buy all dr packs

[dense fable]

I got one and Mallay too

[warm grove]

Gear, farming, summoning, sanctum, grimoire

[dense fable]

ah, so now focus on W6 stuff?

[thorny zinc]

not all = not quest done

[warm grove]

Cards too I suppose

[mossy anvil]

if your obols are fine, earliest dr increase is equinox, farming and bubble + shrines

[dense fable]

yeah, Obol set is complete

[exotic swallow]

and quit idleon after

[thorny zinc]

😭

yeah buy all packs in the game then go play smth else

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1213813265474265088/1319684728621633659/image0.gif

[thorny zinc]

we all gonna die alone

we are idleon players

[dense fable]

in Alchemy I see only this as DR

[exotic swallow]

only 125 lvl

[dense fable]

but if It costs a LOT to increase a little bit of DR

[thorny zinc]

hourly click it

[warm grove]

10m goldfish is nothing

[dense fable]

put everything I had

[dense fable]

don't have a Bubo setup yet

[strange prism]

scales poorly anyways

[warm grove]

3% dr

[dense fable]

also

[thorny zinc]

yeah kinda shit bubble for dr

[warm grove]

dr is dr mfs would disagree

[thorny zinc]

fair point

[mossy anvil]

yeah this one

[thorny zinc]

need to get this to 1k now

[strange prism]

depends on how it interacts with your dr

[strange prism]

630 is 90%

[dense fable]

so in these I will find stuff which gives DR account wide ?

[thorny zinc]

fr?

[thorny zinc]

then its easy

[dense fable]

Sanctum is in hole? ( idk what is that )

[strange prism]

pretty much maxed for DR

[warm grove]

At 1352 rn

[exotic swallow]

DROPPIN WHOS LOADS

[thorny zinc]

💀

[thorny zinc]

interesting

[native forge]

good im on 37% on that one

[strange prism]

im stopping at 630

[warm grove]

Gonna try for 98%

[native forge]

and nejo still laughs from my dr

[remote plover]

does anyone know why my drop rate is so low on these? ive been letting it run for ~45 mins and not a single gold twine drop

[warm grove]

Using es?

[strange prism]

3430 for nothing is wild

[remote plover]

yes

[mossy anvil]

i stopped few days ago, thats a lie

and i didnt at all

[warm grove]

Half the bubbles give nothing much more at 98 as compared to 95

[dense fable]

Gold twine is for Troll armor?

[remote plover]

yeah

[native forge]

its for the helmet, 3x

[warm grove]

Just doing it just cause probably until I reprioritize my prints

[strange prism]

idk theres a lot of fish bubbles

[warm grove]

Most of them suck ngl

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-17389271083410976578

[native forge]

well penny of str is fine

[warm grove]

Hyperswift sucks, the jellyfish cost reduction sucks, bloaches are actually good

[strange prism]

idk I like money % from strength, shaquracy and attack speed

[warm grove]

The attack speed bubble is really bad

[full beacon]

[warm grove]

Still lvling a bit for more % but it doesn’t change much if anything at all

[native forge]

as i said ,skelefish and maybe shaq xD

[warm grove]

Yeah skelefish will fall off but shaq is good

[native forge]

never falls off when more str you get

[thorny zinc]

shaq is the goat

[native forge]

how to get accuracy

[strange prism]

how can this fall off

[full beacon]

shaq fell off when he got old

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/balthazar-crazy-family-guy-fou-gif-11775947423386520412

[strange prism]

goated for hounds

[native forge]

ye its per 250 str, so its fine xD

[warm grove]

yeah but lvling it more doesn’t give much

I’d rather print ore instead after a certain point

[native forge]

so are others past 99% ,but people still do anyway ,for w6 bubbles

[warm grove]

My base bubbles are higher than my w6 bubbles now

[strange prism]

very good

[warm grove]

I’ll lock in after finishing the gs vial

[balmy crystal]

is the ''nuke'' team still viable for W6 spices?

[strange prism]

you gonna finihs before the week

[warm grove]

Hopefully

Anyways my phones almost dead I’ll be back in a bit

[remote plover]

so this is a bit of a scuffed calculation but im getting ~20 royal suggmas every 4 mins which would "technically" (idrk how game calculations work) equal out to 1 gold twine, but even if its calculated differently, my drop rate is abysmally low on these. is there some kinda obvious thing im missing

[pulsar girder]

how many vials maxed is it for this to be 100%?

[mossy anvil]

more

idk, u have to check in vial mastery and do the math

[pulsar girder]

fair enough

no wait its on the wiki its 12

[full beacon]

since when do suggmas drop gold twine

you want those jelly looking mfs

iirc

[remote plover]

wait suggmas dont drop twines??

[full beacon]

just check the drop table in game on their cards, all the info is there

[remote plover]

ive been farming wrong this entire time 💔

[full beacon]

not a waste though, suggmas drop molten boxing glove for vman

and mk/t card

[mossy anvil]

might be

[remote plover]

i was using suggmas as a reference point since its a 1/50k drop and that x20 would be 1/1m which is the drop rate of gold twines

[zenith hare]

@thorny zinc can you tell i mainly play tmod? (and dont ask questions about the order of achs)

[pulsar girder]

i think i'm approaching the rift level where its stupid for me to do the rift until i get more damage. but also i'm approaching eldritch artifacts and i WILL push to those.

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[zenith hare]

wait how has more people beat ml

then the celestial pillars

[white path]

I feel like steam achievements don't make sense

[full beacon]

you can join a world and beat it

after pillars are down already

[zenith hare]

you assume people have friends

[full beacon]

not saying that's actually why, but the rational path is there

[white path]

like theres no way 88.8% of players haven't unlocked frogs

[zenith hare]

tbf those were added recently

[full beacon]

bots

[zenith hare]

people quit the game before those were added

ml was added with the ach

[strange prism]

ultimate mid maxing

[zenith hare]

...also you can skip gmush

[strange prism]

went straight to the mines, going to 100k stat bubbles before frogs

[zenith hare]

you can tp to w1 dungeon

and now youre at frogs without killing a single gmush

[native forge]

lol

[strange prism]

just a lot of people closing the game before they even start playing

[zenith hare]

and yeah some people do do that

[rigid finch]

I got a question,
I got 1.2 k gems and already got the s tier items from the gem shop list,so should I wait until world 4 before buying more or just buy storage and the like from the a tier?

[strange prism]

which list

theres a lot of lists out there

[grim onyx]

once I got an onyx statue, the power statue for example, their is no reason to wait before giving them right?

idk if I'm clear enough...

[strange prism]

if you care to min-max, you want to wait till majority, if not all, statues are onyxed before depositing extras

[grim onyx]

why is that?

[full beacon]

he's talking about extra statues after the onyx. you can onyx whenever

[strange prism]

you gain more out of youre statues when you have more onyx

[grim onyx]

Yeah well I onyx some statues, lumberbob for instance, is there a reason to wait before giving them after being onyxed?

[strange prism]

makes pushing levels easier

[warm grove]

for more onyxes

[grim onyx]

oooh I just understood thanks

[strange prism]

again, its relative to if you care to min-max, at the end of the day its your account do whatever you want

[grim onyx]

yeah yeah I know, thansk a lot!

[warm grove]

gone for 4 1/2 hour and I still can't afford it

[grim onyx]

I missed the any statue

[strange prism]

gotta work on dust %

[warm grove]

im trying to by getting better dust bows

[white lintel]

At least your not neglecting it

[strange prism]

run fact, all that buff does is eat your stones

[warm grove]

its helped a lot actually

[strange prism]

gets your dust % upgrades done as well

[warm grove]

before getting it I only got 2/5 bows

[white lintel]

Spam a lot of stones, check bow, 5 slots still, spam 5 more, 0 slots

[strange prism]

pretty much

youre 3/5 odds are better, but 4-5/5 still blow

[warm grove]

still better than not having it

yep seems about right so far

[strange prism]

yea until you spend 40 stones on 1 bow for 0/5

[thorny zinc]

imagine getting stones

dont laugh rei is not funny

[white lintel]

So your just neglecting

[thorny zinc]

yes

[warm grove]

its kind of funny

[strange prism]

dont sleep on dust% upgrades

[thorny zinc]

i will overnight for this maybe i will fix it

[warm grove]

I made more stones* in the 4 hours I was gone than you own

had bows on the mind

[thorny zinc]

💀

[white lintel]

Nah you just need more DR

Get the DR fractional node

[thorny zinc]

MORE?

[strange prism]

dont forget to level this

[thorny zinc]

ok time to fix my ww

[warm grove]

can't believe I got all of this for a 1m increase, still cheesed

[white lintel]

Yea this is what I’m talking about

[thorny zinc]

[strange prism]

lv17?!

[thorny zinc]

bro likes to search metals with metal detector

[warm grove]

not anymore

[strange prism]

whats your nugget at

[warm grove]

29.3m

[strange prism]

eesh

sticking to DR then

[warm grove]

was at 28.2m, clicked 5k nuggets, went up 1m

[strange prism]

good thing you leveled it 17 times

[lunar grail]

is laboratory important?

[strange prism]

yes

[thorny zinc]

yes

[warm grove]

nah useless mechanic, you just sit around and do nothing in it

[thorny zinc]

real

[strange prism]

true, theres always cooking

[thorny zinc]

just do cog clicking instead

[strange prism]

best skill in the game

lv10 construction cog clicking

[warm grove]

1 cog per minute

[strange prism]

value

[lunar grail]

how many characters should i invest in it for now. All my characters are still level 1 on lab

[strange prism]

9/10 in lab and push w4 with DK till you get to w5

whoops

[rotund hound]

i only have 7 characters still oof

[strange prism]

clarify a bit better

Shadows got a fancy w4 chart, might post it when hes here

[thorny zinc]

the accuracy one?

[thorny zinc]

AAAAA READING

[warm grove]

ngl this getting kind of expensive

[thorny zinc]

imagine having wishes spent on that

[warm grove]

imagine having wishes

[thorny zinc]

real

[strange prism]

we love cooking speed

[white lintel]

Not even

[warm grove]

moreso for the shiny lvl rate but that too for sure

[thorny zinc]

i wish you a nice day

[white lintel]

Talk to me when you get up to 14 and 15 per

[warm grove]

ok john wish

[thorny zinc]

when becoming endgamer mr bear?

[strange prism]

No, cooking speed only >: (

[inner egret]

talk to painted horse guy when you get to 30 💀

[thorny zinc]

painted horse guy😭

[white lintel]

I need better construction, prints, alchemy, and like everything else lol, I still got some work to do

[warm grove]

yeah your alchemy sucks

[thorny zinc]

i have faith in you

[warm grove]

[strange prism]

just base endgame off ie reviewer and hit it way earlier

[white lintel]

I’ll do some more Candy clicking soon enough

[mossy anvil]

w4 gfood farm is done on clamies?

[native forge]

i can give mine in exchange for DR

[white lintel]

Then I can be endgame when I reprint if you go off of finishing Scoli

[warm grove]

endgame tier is after practical max

[white lintel]

[thorny zinc]

now that shiro doesnt exist anymore i will take his place

[strange prism]

IE Reviewers great, makes you feel like your maxed years before you are : )

still got a while too go though

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-dog-suspicious-look-suspicious-doubt-dog-doubt-gif-23680990

[warm grove]

nah you aint at 4/32, this is lies

[white lintel]

Better be 24/32

[strange prism]

Na I restarted : (

[thorny zinc]

damn im better

[white lintel]

Even then you still have lots and lots work to go

[inner egret]

one day i'll get there

[thorny zinc]

NAH

[strange prism]

getting there

[warm grove]

killroy

[thorny zinc]

what do you even have left

[white lintel]

Maybe if you did your slab you’d get it

[warm grove]

need 10000 timer

[strange prism]

probably atoms

[inner egret]

it's alchemy

[thorny zinc]

💀

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[white lintel]

Isn’t the last ranked tier like only 90% bubbles??

[thorny zinc]

bro needs that 10m bubbles

[strange prism]

99%

[white lintel]

No no

[thorny zinc]

101%

[white lintel]

Ranked

Not informational

[native forge]

ricecake bubble probably

[strange prism]

well for 12/12 its 85%

but it keeps going

[warm grove]

chat we are cooked

[thorny zinc]

idleon ranked when

[strange prism]

IT ranks? no its way more then that

[strange prism]

IT

[inner egret]

i'm not levelling this as a joke, it used to be 8/12 but scoli nerfed it
my nblb will level it soon though and i'll go straight to 14

[thorny zinc]

wrong. idleon ranked = idlemancer

[strange prism]

wow its actually alch

[thorny zinc]

crazy

[strange prism]

meme having maxed alch before follkey

[thorny zinc]

💀

[warm grove]

there is no max alchemy, only sadness

[strange prism]

pff maybe for you

maxed was like 50% in my mind

[thorny zinc]

look how happy is follkey with 1.8m bubbles

[white lintel]

Not informational

[warm grove]

OH SHOOT, ARCTIS WAS SABOTAGING MY FARMING I GET IT NOW

[strange prism]

?

next ones great

[warm grove]

he's had me on gs vial for a week

[thorny zinc]

hell yeah finally no coins bonus

[strange prism]

yea.. he made you do it

[thorny zinc]

liquid gen will be nice

1 week of active bubo

[strange prism]

think its finally time to turn in crops cause these day market upgrades are way too expensive

[white lintel]

I don’t even find much of day market useful at all anymore

Just endless bean trading

[strange prism]

I was late to pushing it so there was some value

now I need more nightmarket to push crop % more

[white lintel]

Ig I could do more evo chance with day market when I get home

[warm grove]

damn my game straight up crashed and then discord died

[white lintel]

Rip

[thorny zinc]

its finally time to stop playing rei

[warm grove]

I NEED the GS vial

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-gif-17389271083410976578

rei rn

[warm grove]

basically

[white lintel]

What’d you NEED it for?

[warm grove]

flex

[white lintel]

Would you recommend the experience

[warm grove]

no

[strange prism]

if you say yes, you're lying

k good

[warm grove]

this is worse than 400k PO orders

[noble lintel]

Do deathnote percentages carry over to other worlds?

[white lintel]

Hopefully I can get enough oil before shrine week

[white lintel]

Only mini boss dnote

[thorny zinc]

and the eclipse skulls damage

[noble lintel]

So is there any point in farming deathnote for the lower worlds, or would it just be best to focus on the highest world you can reach?

[strange prism]

if only you didnt need to split them into 1b stacks

[noble lintel]

Not sure I know what that is

[warm grove]

basically

[strange prism]

probably makes up 80% of the time

[thorny zinc]

yes every 1b kills means 5% multiplicative damage

[noble lintel]

Ohh

[thorny zinc]

eclipse skulls = 1b kills

[noble lintel]

Wow okay, 1b is gonna be a while haha

[thorny zinc]

you unlock them in rift

[thorny zinc]

yeah dont bother doing them early anyway

[strange prism]

unfortunate

[noble lintel]

Alright, ty!

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-carrot-wave-gif-24682900

[strange prism]

ill take it

[white lintel]

Yea, MK on lower worlds is useful too

[warm grove]

seems low for your progression ngl

[sage cliff]

anyone know if the monsters drop obols merit in w2 is a must have? Really cbf getting all the w1 thingies to finish their quest line

[thorny zinc]

!merit2

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into obols makes it possible for them to drop at all. Obols are rare items giving stat boosts when equipped.
2️⃣ Buy for all unlocked characters. Afk gains are very important and 2% per character is quite a lot when you start out with just 20%. Purchase more every time you get a new character.
3️⃣ Mob respawn increases your kills per hour making opening portals faster. If you are done with world 2 for now you can skip this in favor of purchases that help in all worlds.
4️⃣ When maxed you are likely to get a bit over 7 gems for every 10 kills on average regardless of boss or difficulty.
5️⃣ Obols are rare and more drop rate will help you fill out your obol pages faster.
6️⃣ More balls = More gems, arcade bonuses and other items.
7️⃣ Not much better than Amarok gear for a significantly higher price.
8️⃣ EXP Converter is not worth using.
⚔️ The two star talents boost card drops and mana regen. Put a point here as soon as you start farming the W2 minibosses. The other points increasing the drop rate are less important. Buy the Silver Antique and Capitalist Case from the forest shop daily for more chances instead until after arcade balls are maxed.

[strange prism]

idek what to level

[sage cliff]

I feel like you skipped over my question entirely. Don’t obols drop from crystal mobs

[warm grove]

crop evo 100%

evo gmo I guess mb

[white lintel]

I dump evo and the remainder jnto speed

[sly nova]

Crop 1.5

[white lintel]

Make sure your crop value is maxed

[sly nova]

Then bail out

[thorny zinc]

1 point is enough

no need for more

[white lintel]

Max is 10k

[strange prism]

wow... .4x crop evo from that

[sage cliff]

i dont have the shop unlocked my guy

[white lintel]

More than crystals, also from base mobs

[thorny zinc]

oh

wait what shop you mean the obol thing?

[sage cliff]

my question is whether it’s worth doing all the w1 quests

to unlock the w2 merit shop

[white lintel]

Not until later

What?

[thorny zinc]

what

[sage cliff]

bruh

[strange prism]

how.. do you do 777 achievement

[white lintel]

W2 merit shop you talk to the dude in w2

[sage cliff]

the guy in w2, the gold version of the green guy

[zenith hare]

reset land ranks

[white lintel]

Remove your land tank points

[sage cliff]

no u need to do some fancy stuff to unlock it

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[sage cliff]

prove you’re cool or whatever

[thorny zinc]

ohhhh

thats goldrick

[sly nova]

[thorny zinc]

but you dont need to do his quest for merit shop what

[warm grove]

wow a 524kx, haven't checked in a long time

[sage cliff]

yes u do

[thorny zinc]

you dont

[strange prism]

I see

[white lintel]

@sage cliff show us

[strange prism]

whats your overall land ranks

[warm grove]

4487

[white lintel]

Now what items do you need

[sage cliff]

no clue

[white lintel]

You can see in quest book

[tight willow]

i am going insane

[strange prism]

are you full evo chance?

[warm grove]

nah, split on evo and OG

just the landrank optimizer setup

[thorny zinc]

everyone here does that

[tight willow]

i've been doing cogs for the last 5 hours on top of the 8 hours i've done yesterday

[warm grove]

feel that

[strange prism]

interesting

[tight willow]

this 1 fucking wheel doesn't wanna fall into my hand

[strange prism]

should probably reset mine

[sage cliff]

omfg

[warm grove]

yeah definitely reset that

get the 777 trade and then follow the optimizer

[white lintel]

Ya welcome

[strange prism]

ive never seen the optimizer so no idea what youre referring too

[warm grove]

ah

[white lintel]

Use optimizer

[warm grove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_Z0-mJKRMxjFb0CSmg9MlfxDgdtwNyeVDd-7Bb1wXzs/edit?usp=sharing

[white lintel]

It mainly focuses on OG and new crop and land xp

[warm grove]

my evo is 0% on the onigiri, might have to swap to db

[strange prism]

what should I put

[white lintel]

Leave em

[warm grove]

only change the first box with the inputs

and i'd not check the evo unnecesary box

[strange prism]

okay.. what should I change them too

[white lintel]

But evo chance is important for farming?

[warm grove]

set them to what your land ranks are

the unnecesary box

don't check it for evo, worded strange

[white lintel]

Ohhh ok I see what you said

[warm grove]

yeah its strange

[thorny zinc]

i dont even know how to use that sheet😭

[white lintel]

Put in your stuff and read your outputs

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/741696802666840167/1374687111902662707/9upe3x.gif

[strange prism]

whats the production doubler

[warm grove]

bottom right one

also don't check the box

[white lintel]

Me when I don’t read

[strange prism]

[white lintel]

3555?

[mellow jetty]

When is day reset time? And when does week reset happen? Eastern time zone.

[strange prism]

interesting

oh bottom right fml

[white lintel]

It likes OG

Also is 3555 right?

It sounds very wrong

[strange prism]

didnt change anything

[warm grove]

give it a min to update

[thorny zinc]

[strange prism]

I mean it changed, just not by much lol

[warm grove]

makes sense, theres a cap

[strange prism]

waiting for these apples sucks without landranks

[warm grove]

the humble instagrow

[thorny zinc]

so this thing should be my goal?

[strange prism]

gone

[warm grove]

I think you suck too much but yeah that should work

[strange prism]

thats what you can do with what you have

[thorny zinc]

im confused

i only have 105 points

[strange prism]

2 minutes for apples, if its not 776 777 or 778 im uninstalling

[warm grove]

why 777 apples?

[white lintel]

Achieve

[strange prism]

[white lintel]

It’ll be like 300 or something

[warm grove]

its not 777 apples, its beans

oh I see now

[strange prism]

I never said it had to be 777 apples, im waiting on apples to see how many beans I get

fml

[warm grove]

yeah 777 ain't that easy at early farming

[strange prism]

10 more minutes

would help if I understood how bean to crop ratio works

[warm grove]

theres a complex formula but its a square root of a function basically

so maybe get a few more that isn't apples first

[strange prism]

so I cant just spam apples

[warm grove]

do it near the end

oh chat I'm stupid I am doing killroy on SB

I forgor 💀

[thorny zinc]

💀

[white lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093957608555171895/1303527764485472267/caption.gif

[warm grove]

damn I forced my game to crash and it just ate my killroy

[strange prism]

xp hat on DK

[thorny zinc]

trust he is gooning with high class xp

[strange prism]

58hs for new killroy

[rigid finch]

!gemshop

[strange prism]

NO

[rigid finch]

This list

[strange prism]

that thing stinks

[inner egret]

it's basically you need 4x your current crop value to get double the current beans

[strange prism]

1st tiers fine, but the rest is terrible

[warm grove]

basically yeah

[rigid finch]

Alr

[strange prism]

!guide has one

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[strange prism]

it doesnt have w6 but its far better then that one

[rigid finch]

Alr bet thx

[strange prism]

card packs before food slots is wild

lab jewels

[rigid finch]

I am not using foods actively rn lol

[warm grove]

you should

[rigid finch]

Just stashing them cuz I know they'll be important

[warm grove]

food is OP

[rigid finch]

Ik

Dunno how exactly but I do know I'll eventually have to get into it

[strange prism]

gfoods goated, other food situational

[rigid finch]

Other foods: skilling mostly

[warm grove]

speed pots and dmg pots still very good

[strange prism]

wait beans is 776 777 or 778 right

is says that for w5 trade, but not beans

[tardy shadow]

what should i be 3d printing, like i just have it on bloaches and shit. also should i have a char with max luck to crank the print sample or something like that?

[warm grove]

just do 777 by claiming apples at base a ton

[white lintel]

I did it by slowly going up in crops and once I got to like 730+ I slowed down

And then went down again

[strange prism]

Mages - Wood
Archer - Bugs
Barbarian - Fish
Warrior - Ore

[lilac plover]

print sampling is based off afk gains in afk info

[strange prism]

You make it sound easy

[lilac plover]

for skilling you want to equip their respective speed foods

[warm grove]

if you had instas it would be

[white lintel]

It is easy it just takes time

[strange prism]

you cant control overgrowth on insta, that would make it worse

[warm grove]

its easy to control on apples

[strange prism]

[lilac plover]

test

[warm grove]

very minimal impact on magic beans per apple since its the lowest value crop

[strange prism]

its ~2 apples to 1 bean

[warm grove]

early on yeah, but its a square root function

[white lintel]

Just go up

[lilac plover]

mb was testing the role name colour xd

[strange prism]

so it is 777 exact right

[warm grove]

to my knowledge

[strange prism]

I see now the first 70 was fast, now its slow

its kinda tempting to level crop value land rank, but ill wait

noticed that land rank link doesnt account for account buffs wonder which I should pull the levels from

dam Ive been playing graveyard wrong at brightside this whole time

[agile fjord]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[ember vector]

how to clear w6 pet fight

[stray anchor]

i need a decent pet comp

[ember vector]

can't believe that i cleared this after 15min

[uneven iris]

i forgot to talk to nebulyte after becoming a vman and left the map (used the void trial talent) and now i still have the quest ready to be completed but nebulyte is missing and idk what to do ':>

[white lintel]

This is a known issue, apparently if someone else with a maestro comes to w4 town same server the npc will spawn for you

[elder bay]

Sorry for the stupid questions, is there an updated guide to maximising spice collecting? Need 5k of one for this week's chip and barely getting a hundred a day 😦

[ember vector]

set i'm using now, no converters

[uneven iris]

Thanks! i found a few people asking but didnt see any solutions mentioned so i appreciate it ^^

[ember vector]

hopefully i can buy the gem today

[elder bay]

What if you got convertors? Think I just need to unlock the last of the W4 pets.

[ember vector]

replace bunny with a converter

[elder bay]

Does it matter whether you use a W4 borger vs a W1 borger?

[ember vector]

no

[fast ridge]

I would personally replace alchemic with shimmer again. I never used alchemic

[vital parrot]

Guys what quest needs the 3 stamps 5 times from the w1 shop

[fast ridge]

Papua piggea

Gigafrogs

[ember vector]

that's great too

[vital parrot]

Was the reward crystallin no right?

[white lintel]

Please let me know if this works so I can let other people know when they ask

[fast ridge]

No, i forget the reward, maybe a chest?

[elder bay]

Shimmer is Flashy?

[fast ridge]

Idk why i thought shimmer. Yes

The bunny

[uneven iris]

I dont know anyone else who has a maestro atm (a friend is working through the secret class quests) so i cant check if it works right now (plus its a bit late so boutta head to bed) but ill let you know when i get the chance to try it :>

[white lintel]

Alright sounds good 👌

[ember vector]

wait i think the alchemic is better, why would you prefer the flashy 🤔

1.5x expectation vs 1.5x speed

[white lintel]

I believe alchemic is used as a budget converter

[warm grove]

because dharma mesa takes a ton of time to finish

[fast ridge]

That's just because a forager would be useless there

With w6 spices it becomes forager

[zenith wasp]

uh so me big stupid

[ember vector]

i know, i mean it would be better to replace the flashy with alchemic

[zenith wasp]

how does one set a trap O-O

[fast ridge]

Welcome to the club

[ember vector]

in the long run

[warm grove]

yes, its because it takes so long and so a single claim is faster than a chance at 2 later on

[gritty elm]

Why my dk do less dmg than my bb? Its barely a level diff but is dk supposed to be weaker

[elder bay]

@ember vector @fast ridge

So, for W5/W6 spices, what's the optimal/best setup for spices?

[warm grove]

you get that converter use and especially because the time taken to finish increases each spice you gather

check the pins

[fast ridge]

If you got to the slimes map in w1, there are frogs top left. You can place them there. You can also buy a trap in the w3 shop, which you need to equip

[white lintel]

With w6 spices you’ll have burgers below it so you’ll need a forager

[ember vector]

yea i know

this guide is outdated

[warm grove]

not the one in the pins