midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[white lintel]

nice

[night oracle]

Why so little bonejoepickles?

[fast ridge]

This is not worth your time, but yay

[warm grove]

in my other character inventories

[opal goblet]

which one i should focus and level up first ?

[violet elm]

6m lumderbog is crazy

[night oracle]

Honestly, it's for equinox so idk

[warm grove]

candy a few hundred gs ore and it happens

[violet elm]

boulder

until you get the last ones

[night oracle]

yay

[violet elm]

well done

gigafrog keeps dropping wisdom obol instead of the pop one

[white lintel]

is this a delusional goal?

[night oracle]

Do I reset?

I had most land ranks in exp for getting level 80

[white lintel]

Why would you?

[warm grove]

lumberbob one is not impossible, but power seems a bit much right now

[subtle shale]

you put barely any in any of them

[white lintel]

Not including power or Kachow

[night oracle]

._. I don't have thousands to spend

[inner egret]

they drop at pretty different rates

[white lintel]

Looking mostly for mining and feasty

[native trail]

when doing cc should i turn on that lab node or no

[warm grove]

maybe, depends how long you want to take

[white lintel]

A week, 2 weeks max

[subtle shale]

i mean you can reset, i personally got allot quite fast

[warm grove]

mining means a lot of candying, feasty is something else entirely

[past sage]

For drops that are active only, will a candy count?

[warm grove]

nah not happening in a week for sure

[white lintel]

Ima reset the calculator just in case and do a 10 min test to check rates

I think I might’ve been getting some bogus results

[fast ridge]

For the majority of cases, no.

[native trail]

ok ty

[warm grove]

hmm still 86b left

[mossy anvil]

[full beacon]

what's everyone's endless summon lvl

[warm grove]

ngl chat I might have to make some drastic actions

like 98 iirc

[full beacon]

sheesh

[violet elm]

bold of you to assume im past green

[full beacon]

lolololo

[warm grove]

nah its not that high, i'm real unlucky with sparkies

[mossy anvil]

109 hardstuck

[full beacon]

I hate the one where he has to drain his own hp

[mossy anvil]

So hate for no lane stacking is next in line

[full beacon]

this one is like no lanestacking but on steroids

[violet elm]

was at 5.2x drop rate yesterday curently 6.5

[mossy anvil]

This one is free

Coz whatever perish seems to do dmg to health

And it doesnt nuke bloomies

[craggy oxide]

is there a drop rate guide? I thought I was doing okay with 15x but folks have way way more than that?

[full beacon]

it sounds like you have everything you can get for where you are

[mossy anvil]

the more u progress the more dr u will get, sactum, farming, equinox

[full beacon]

15x pretty common

[craggy oxide]

ah, so it's really content I haven't gotten deep into yet.

I feel better about it, at least a bit.

[mossy anvil]

yep, u doing good

[full beacon]

yea dr isn't one of those things you can just randomly miss

unlike minmaxing sampling lol

[craggy oxide]

ooo thanks for the reminder to sample.

[full beacon]

alright I got to 31, this is boring I'll do more later

[near latch]

Is there a breeding guide? Cant find anything in the pinned messages

[full beacon]

it's there

w4

[near latch]

aight ill check again

[craggy oxide]

the first egg

[opal goblet]

thank you

[brisk warren]

most recent pin

[near latch]

Heh?

[brisk warren]

have you tried clicking the message and jumping to it

[craggy oxide]

if you jump to the message.

[brisk warren]

it doesn't show the full mesage

[near latch]

oooooooooh

[brisk warren]

🤯

[heavy terrace]

Uhh i need sm1 to guide me on what specific thing i can do rn to make my kph faster

[near latch]

thx!

[heavy terrace]

3710

[brisk warren]

more dmg

you have rlly low dmg

[heavy terrace]

Which i can get by

[craggy oxide]

vault, owl, poppy (roo in world 2)

[brisk warren]

bloodbone card, snowman card, Dr defcus card, shrine

[craggy oxide]

don't forget alchemy.

[hollow cave]

for sake of this is the vial not additive with other effects?

[brisk warren]

also the weapon power cards, easiest one is the slime bosss

[heavy terrace]

Bloodbone
Dr defcus
Where to get

[hollow cave]

it at least states it's not multiplicative but not sure if that's just a joke since the prior one was

[heavy terrace]

Uhh pic pls

[brisk warren]

maybe don't get bloodbone it's a bit of a long grind, Dr defacus is at the third sewer map

[brisk warren]

the one at the slime map?

[polar geyser]

world 1 almost done, mushrooms also nearly done so then i could maybe have the maestro and the es getting kills to get it done twice as fast

[heavy terrace]

Uhh ok but lil problem is i already equipped snowman and my dmg like that

[crimson zenith]

how much acuruacy do i need for world 3 final boss?

[warm grove]

well, it's done

[violet elm]

a bit over 3k for chiz and i think its like 15 for nchiz

[warm grove]

@white lintel I got it all in

[violet elm]

nice

[white lintel]

color me very impressed

[hollow cave]

the wiki lists Chizoar as surprisingly lower than the enemies prior at around 2000, is that different from ingame?

[white lintel]

...I see you lost 50 gstacks lol

[warm grove]

yeah had to make some bold decisions

[crimson zenith]

you think i could do it with 2k?

[white lintel]

got a better rate calc, im at 300k mining statues per hour

[hollow cave]

specifically it has 1875/11250/37500 for Chizoar/Chaotic/Blighted 100% accuracy values

[violet elm]

yh

[crimson zenith]

okk

[white lintel]

so I can get to 340 in about a week-week and a half

[warm grove]

[white lintel]

[warm grove]

ngl i'm cooked

[violet elm]

dang

how much is that 100b

[warm grove]

closer to 500b, probably somewhere in the 400's b

[violet elm]

goddamn

[crimson zenith]

easy

[violet elm]

welcome to w4

[polar geyser]

rei i got a question

[heavy terrace]

What now

[warm grove]

live

[polar geyser]

im doing refinery stuff atm, idk if its worth me early checking out the red salts so the other two can start working on ranks etc, or keeping the red salts going until its able to rankup too

theyre rank 5 4 3 if that helps any more

[warm grove]

always keep red salt on rankup, its much better longterm even if you need it right now

[violet elm]

youd need the lab node to 2x kills

[heavy terrace]

Already have it

[warm grove]

is 5/4/3 the optimal split? seems a bit much

[polar geyser]

okay will do

[crimson zenith]

idk how but i just found a cosmic candy in my inv

[full beacon]

quest prob

[violet elm]

then grind to w5

[polar geyser]

ahhh nah i just didnt realise how the rankups worked until like last week so theyre all a bit behind

[heavy terrace]

3kph and i need 120k

[full beacon]

damn you downgraded to w3

[warm grove]

ah ok, then you should be good if you keep it up

[crimson zenith]

wrld 4 portal quest

[polar geyser]

i was cashing out my salts on a 50% auto cause i accidently clicked it before then forgot about it

so never got a rankup til world 5 and i started going back to work on things

[hollow cave]

if the rows are 31 wide and I did math right, approximately 281B

[violet elm]

yep the pleasure of w4

[warm grove]

hmm guess I had less stored before, but I did just but 254b in. smelted a bit too

[violet elm]

a wise one once told me the best way to finish w4 is to skip it and go to w5

[hollow cave]

in that I did (7*31+(31-4)+(31-7))*1.05 rounded down to account for the non-1050 stacks

[warm grove]

yeah that seems fair

[heavy terrace]

So its normal?

[violet elm]

yeah the only way to get more kills now is afk gains for candies or normal afk, multikill which requires a lot of damage you wont get in a short time and maybe skill levels for a couple more kills hour

[true hamlet]

my bubo is mentally ill

just why

[violet elm]

wdym

[true hamlet]

461k seconds on minis, 422k on wurms, 372k on sammys, 427k in rift

[warm grove]

sounds like a roadkill, max talent lvl, and not using gloves issue

[heavy terrace]

What better active farm or afk for my acc

[violet elm]

are you not close to infinite bubo

[true hamlet]

the variance is a little big though

[warm grove]

That’s how it changes based on map density

[true hamlet]

no, I'm only at 372 talents, can hit 400 if I get the wraith

I'm getting similar rates with gloves (as in relative to each other)

[violet elm]

active gives more kills but honestly you dont really have to do it since its gonna take days

[warm grove]

Yeah, but they are still slightly better so you should use them

[true hamlet]

I'm lazy to switch

[white lintel]

that and it looks likt thats mini chiefs too which arent that great

[warm grove]

Yeah that’s my guess too

[heavy terrace]

Ok ty bro

[true hamlet]

It was a test, I was getting about 90k more seconds on minis than wurms

I'm not saying minis is better, just saying my test results were off

[crimson zenith]

whats the sappy dna splicer?

[true hamlet]

allows you to splice drops

let me try wurm again

[violet elm]

when you get afk gains on a map if you have the splicer equipped in tools you can opt to splice whick will give you some dna thingy you can spend on your breeding pets

sappy splicer only works on w1 for green dna

[crimson zenith]

okk

thx

[night oracle]

Would 30 lanterns fix this?

[white lintel]

yea but like, not a good idea

[night oracle]

xD

But it would be funny

And very irresponsible

[warm grove]

My dog is mad chilling right now

Down here making food and she’s just a chiller

[night oracle]

She no longer a dog, she a dawg now

[violet elm]

come on now

[full beacon]

same bro, same

might just run a colo

[noble lintel]

What merits to prioritize here?

[full beacon]

#bot-commands

[night oracle]

We gaming

[violet elm]

nblb

[noble lintel]

Oh cool didnt know that was a thing, ty!

[warm reef]

hey weird question but is there a true cap on library checkout level? I'm currently at 292 max level but I'm not sure how else it could increase

[night oracle]

Now I need to learn how to use the peapod comp

[night oracle]

299 should be max possible rn

[full beacon]

winners bonus multi

[warm reef]

oh so it's just grinding out endless now?

[full beacon]

there's a pic going around somewhere

[full beacon]

nah there's a few extra sources too

don'tg remember off the dome though

[warm reef]

ah sick, that helps

[night oracle]

For checkout levels

Of course you can bump total skill levels with other stuff

[full beacon]

oh yea if you have 292 already then the rest might actually be only winner bonus

[night oracle]

Likely

[violet elm]

whats the practical max talent level

[full beacon]

399?

[night oracle]

Nahhh 429 I think

[full beacon]

[night oracle]

Because DB grimoire

[candid summit]

oh my god i forgot egg rarity affects pet power no wonder all my pets are dogshit these days
i have no patience

[violet elm]

lol

[night oracle]

F
Also book your beastmaster/WW skill

[candid summit]

i just spam any eggs the second i see them (usually like two white ones)

[full beacon]

that's the best way

way more grey genes

[candid summit]

totally forgor
that also explains why ill "randomly" get a super op pet
those are the times i let it sit for more than an hour

[candid summit]

oh yeah i should check on that! it has been booked but my max lvl has gone up since then

[night oracle]

What comp do I use and how does it work?

My pet fights have been lacking and I need new recipes xD

Is this still valid?

[crimson zenith]

i claimed 12 eggs in my inv and was only able to get 3 pets
did i waste the other 9?

[night oracle]

Do you have the skill that upgrades eggs?

[crimson zenith]

im gonna say no cuz idk what your talking about

[brisk warren]

they should be in your inventory then

[crimson zenith]

no i just got world 4

[brisk warren]

it only consumes enough to fill up the empty spots

[night oracle]

Then yes, you likely wasted 9
It should only use the amount of max eggs you can hold per click

[crimson zenith]

it did but i kept using it

[brisk warren]

oh yeah you definitely wasted them

[crimson zenith]

mb

[full beacon]

f

[lucid osprey]

honestly don't sweat it too much, you can get more eggs

[violet elm]

dont worry youll do a lot worse

[night oracle]

What's this number?

[native trail]

vman double drop talent works on bosses?

perfect

[night oracle]

Yup, vman best for world boss drops

My previous best wave was like 30

[full beacon]

first one is just duration of eggshells itself, second one is procs of the activated buff of eggshells which is 1% block chance per crit

[night oracle]

So... I probably have 100% block?

[full beacon]

yea

though sometimes you can still die, not sure why/how

[night oracle]

W, how far should I go?

[uneven gate]

what's best way to farm gen splice?

[full beacon]

I think you might still die with a 4 man

can just let it go until it seems like 5 minutes + per kill

[night oracle]

Guess I'll go take a shower and come back in a bit

[full beacon]

😂

[worn raptor]

max larry lvl?

[full beacon]

damn it only grows by like 3% from where I'm at

[worn raptor]

1900?

[white lintel]

its gonna take 400 hours of bean farming to get enough hot dogs to gstack gpeanuts, idk if thats better or worse than I expected

[edgy sphinx]

Thats a lot of dogs.

get lucky with a 500 hour candy!

[true hamlet]

That isn't how it works

[fast ridge]

Peapod before 5th and 6th slot is insane

Neglect at its finest

[night oracle]

Huge

Now what do I use for spice comps

Wth

[true hamlet]

What about it

[night oracle]

100k is big

[fast ridge]

Front to back: Borger, looter, trasher/shield, peapod, looter, tsar?
That's just off the top of my head, peapod should carry.

[mossy anvil]

its not exactly 100k pen clicks coz sometimes u can get even 10 crates per 1 pen

[true hamlet]

You get more from artifacts too

[night oracle]

Ah so just what I had as 4 comp, but with shielder added and tsar

[fast ridge]

Shielder is more rng-based than trasher but less effort. If you run into problems

[night oracle]

Fair

[crimson zenith]

what is the sigls of olden alchemy do?

[pulsar girder]

huge news

[crimson zenith]

in the labratory

[night oracle]

Well I just unlocked 6 new spices....

[night oracle]

W

[viscid agate]

yo fellas what materials should I prioritize 3d printing straight away?

[true hamlet]

Just entering w3 and maybe even w4, refinery mats

[pulsar girder]

releasing everyone from the lab and turning off goharut and activating Mantra Mode to actually get div xp now lol

[viscid agate]

like the colored powder?

[hollow cave]

the materials to make the powders they mean yea

[viscid agate]

ooh gotcha

[hollow cave]

the refiners is quite useful to keep running and rank up as you'll be needing a lot of them later

[viscid agate]

alright that makes a lot of sense ty

I already was printing spore cap and copper ore anyway

[hollow cave]

as the higher salts do require the lower ones to make it's advised to avoid levelling a future one to a point where it consumes MORE than you can generate of a salt

[night oracle]

Really.... I finally got new spices unlocked, but can't claim

GOD DANGIT LAVA

[hollow cave]

do you have the star talent from merits?

[fast ridge]

Do you havw spice spillage leveled on everyone?

[viscid agate]

i'll keep this in mind 👍

[hollow cave]

it can still claim even if you have no daily claims left

[inner egret]

@white lintel you said earlier you were getting 300k mining statue /hr, i assume that's right?

[night oracle]

Uhhhh, no...

Does that still claim?

[hollow cave]

yea

[fast ridge]

That's the primary source of spices

[night oracle]

Ahhh....

[fast ridge]

Lvl 100 is 100% chance

[hollow cave]

at max level it's 100% chance so you could in theory claim every 6-ish minutes if you cycled through all characters doing 1 hour claims and offsetting each by 6 minutes

though of course you don't need to do that, but just as a theoretical possibility

[fast ridge]

You'll also wanna switch those crabcakes out for bop boxes

[night oracle]

Ohh right

I was using crabs because I didn't have pop boxes yet

[stoic vale]

Any advice for getting super high foraging power? 500K+

[white lintel]

Yes, 316.6k if you want a better number

[true hamlet]

Territory above: 3x tsar, 1x forager
Current: 4x borgor

[white lintel]

Why’d you ask, or just curious

[lethal girder]

does multikill increase drops for printing?

[inner egret]

it's about the same i am getting on bubo

[white lintel]

idk how to feel about that

[inner egret]

i would say that's pretty good

[fallow crystal]

does charging ES portal affect drop rate for candy gains?

[hollow cave]

is this some crazy amount or DR or something wackier

for the Bubo matching DK at statues I mean

[rapid prism]

no

[inner egret]

crystal chance and dr mostly

[fallow crystal]

ty

[hollow cave]

I see, out of curiosity how significant are the card doublers for sake of crystal farming?

haven't been around for either of them being available in the shop

[white lintel]

prob have #1 crystal chance and either 1 or 2nd DR so id say its a p crazy amount

[inner egret]

probably the biggest single source together with the card levels

[hollow cave]

I see, will definitely be nice when those roll around though last I checked they were quite a ways out

[white lintel]

i got em gambaing for choccy, really hard to get em otheriwse bc of how few there are per year

[hollow cave]

yea, wish the chips cycled faster than they do to give mor opportunities at em with how many there are that are notable

[sharp fossil]

Hey, guys... I just unlocked vman and did my first run, and now I'm realizing a fundamental part of the game I don't understand in the slightest... How do the different talent sets "work" when switching between, say, vman and a different character? Like, if I have EE high on my skill set, and I switch to fighting, will my characters still get the EE benefits? Or do I need it high on both talent sets?

[hollow cave]

I have at least gotten the last two chocos so I have that part of it down

[white lintel]

whatever talent set you leave the character on will be active for everyone else, so if you have 0/x Bone marrow as the preset you afk on with vmna and check cooking youll have like 0 speed

[sharp fossil]

Ooof. Makes sense, I guess. Time to think about some things, I guess. I have no idea what to do with my vman skilling talent set

[warm grove]

Post office?

[hollow cave]

if you want to double check if Ehancement Eclipse is applying it will show a little popup window on the affected skills on those other characters if active

[sharp fossil]

TY much

[hollow cave]

given the upgrade vault reset you can also just take it off when doing speedruns and slap it back on afterwards

[warm grove]

damn ran out of W5 barrels

[hollow cave]

if you need the points fo rspeedruns

[rapid prism]

max 5, max.bottom row.with low.prio on class.exp, max the middlerow

[white lintel]

should I push acorn TD or w3 TD today

[warm grove]

from 51k to 36.5k per claim

W3 because its cooler

[white lintel]

sir yes sir

[sharp fossil]

Eventually, maybe? x_x ty

[white lintel]

this is all we get for the next 50 weeks

[rapid prism]

but highest prio is the cooking talent

[latent mirage]

What's a card doubler?

[warm grove]

of course no omega nano

[full beacon]

only omegaluls

[white lintel]

we get 1

[warm grove]

hasn't been a single one since I got the jade emporium upgrade, just motherboards

[hollow cave]

the Omega Chips (Nanochip and motherboard) double a specific card in your cardset when equipped

I forget which is which, one is the first and the other is the last card

[warm grove]

motherboard is top left, nano is bottom right

[latent mirage]

Gasp, my next farming goal after monuments to 2k hrs wach

[hollow cave]

from the image above the next one is coming in November, so you have time

Motherboard in Nov and Nanochip in February of next year

[warm grove]

actually february next year since the date is european

[latent mirage]

That's the rotation or update???

[warm grove]

truly this sucks

[latent mirage]

Never mind I can wait lol

[full beacon]

you can just gamba

[hollow cave]

yea, the first is 5/11/2025 though, (Nov 5th this year) right? with the nanochip being February (11/02/2026)

[full beacon]

ez

[hollow cave]

still need both so either is good, and yea I may end up gambling on it after I have other stuff sorted, still have many a permanent upgrade to get that will likely be valuable in the mean time

[white lintel]

itll be faster to gem farm and gamba the chips

[rapid prism]

by the time i get omega nano and.motherboard my statue grind will be done

[hollow cave]

yea it's very likely I'll end up doing such before they come around, even if not the motherboard very likely for the nanochip

[rapid prism]

and.my beanstack grind.minus gcake

[night oracle]

Gem farm? sounds like a different saying for whaling

[warm grove]

gem farm? call that a job

[full beacon]

gem farming with wallet

[night oracle]

Fun thing is at work I usually play idleon because not much to do
Does that mean I'm double farming?

[warm grove]

yes, true grinder

[sharp fossil]

Oh, I had another question. I don't want to waste any time on my next speedrun, so... Next time, I have to start at w1, again, and start w2 after finishing that one?

[opal goblet]

is it worth to farm Laboratory Scrubs on donuts ? have 5 chracter on lab and they are 17-19 level

[hollow cave]

gotta work in a gem mine to truly double farm gems

[rapid prism]

whats your dr

[opal goblet]

dr ?

[full beacon]

doctor

[rapid prism]

so im guessing.less than 5

[full beacon]

you gotta have an in network doctor

[rapid prism]

prob.not worth farming

[full beacon]

or you will pay extra cash

[hollow cave]

Drop Rarity Multiplier

[white lintel]

Sure if you have the expendable income

[opal goblet]

2.33%

[warm grove]

damn I just whitescreened while doing gs vial grind

that's a first

[full beacon]

sounds about right

[rapid prism]

yeah dont bother

its gonna.take an hour before.you get 2

[opal goblet]

it makes x2 exp/hour on chracters in lab tho

[warm grove]

if you wanna farm it do it on ES

[sharp fossil]

If you have any characters not in lab, it's a good use of your time

[night oracle]

Does candy work?

[white lintel]

Yes

[night oracle]

Not going to but just curious

Damn, interesting

[near latch]

Oh man, blood marrow finally starting to ramp up, hitting that 100%, hooefully the exponential part comes soon, it was painfully slow at first

[opal goblet]

i dont have ES yet, opened maestro as 7th chracter and didnt got 2nd ascend on mages
Farming with DK rn

[white lintel]

Or I’m delusional but I’m p sure

[warm grove]

it does, let me check to be sure

[true hamlet]

It scales the same every level

[full beacon]

yea it does

I see free spice a lot

[warm grove]

yeah it does

[white lintel]

6-800 is when it ramps up

Total meals

[true hamlet]

If 100 levels give you 2x, then 200 gives 4x, 300 gives 8x, it's always exponential, just that it takes a while before it outscales your other meal cooking speed bonuses

[pulsar girder]

plus its just happening while you do shit you were doing anyway so is it really something that actively feels like a slog?

[near latch]

Early cooking felt pretty slow

[warm grove]

yeah I didn't cook much until W5, and only in W6 did it truly start doing well

[hollow cave]

the main reason it feels small early is due to it being dampened by the formula by 100x so it requires a couple hundred levels to outscale that dampening

[pulsar girder]

isn't it the same multi every level the whole time

it doesn't change at a later level or anything

[true hamlet]

It's called placebo effect

[white lintel]

That doesn’t sound right

[hollow cave]

it doesn't change, the formula used causes the benefit to be significantly lower than the stated effect so it requires longer to "start"

[pulsar girder]

you're looking at a bigger number and subjectively feeling like its having a bigger impact but its objectively the same impact to upgrade a meal now as when it 'didn't matter' before and there's no point where 'the exponential part kicks in'

[true hamlet]

Does it?

[warm grove]

the formula is something like (1.02)^x where x is meal lvls

[true hamlet]

Well, anyways, x levels give n^x bonus, 2x levels give n^2x bonus

[opal goblet]

how can i increase lab efficiency other than lab shoes ?

[pulsar girder]

it would be a bigger instantenous jump to go from "not having Blood Marrow" -> "having blood marrow" if your kitchen had 1000 levels already. but assuming you had it basically the whole time it doesn't make sense for it to 'feel better' the further you go imo

[warm grove]

its a compounding effect

[hollow cave]

so saying the listed % bonus in the description as a multiplier is A the formla is
Mult = 1+((1+A)^TotalLevel)/100

which is why with lvl 200 of the skill (1% increase) even with 100 meal levels you only get 2.7% bonus (1.027x)

[warm grove]

so for say 1.1 as base, 1 lvl is 1.1, 2 is 1.21, and the difference between the current lvl and next lvl is always 10%

[hollow cave]

which is extremely unintuitive by the description saying it's a multiplicative % increase

but it just has an extra /100 in it

[pulsar girder]

oh weird

[sharp fossil]

Think of everything as incremental, then you'll less likely be disappointed

[true hamlet]

I believe the % is actually nested into the actual formula, just that when it's displayed, it dampens again

[true hamlet]

Oops, I didn't do buffering

[inner egret]

so more equals better right?

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

[true hamlet]

I don't think so, probably just an upside down screenshot

[white lintel]

Bigger number better person

[hollow cave]

the % is used yea, the dampening in the formula just makes it take a couple hundred meal levels before it "overcomes" the dampening and works how is intuitive

for example at the 1% value the formula reaches 2x by 463 meal levels, but after that point it will double the total bonus every ~70 levels after that

[latent mirage]

Blood marrow is the v man man skill that makes cooking speed go insane?

[hollow cave]

yea

[latent mirage]

XD Didn't have a damn point invested in it, believe me my jaw drop at the sudden 1000's % increase from one point (52 with pet) lol

[red compass]

typical exponent overpower

max it

[indigo stratus]

Bone marrow maxed at all times

[latent mirage]

All meals sitting at a comfy lvl 50 cause of it owo
Just need BB to get all his 100mil kills per mob

[white lintel]

Every 58 at lvl 299 is a doubling

[gritty elm]

How do i get shiny penguins WAY faster

[white lintel]

More shiny chance

[warm grove]

get the best artifact in the game, Giants Eye

[hollow cave]

that tracks, technically it should alternate between 58 and 57 as it doubles every 57.6308

[gritty elm]

What world is that and how do i get it

[warm grove]

W5 sailing, at the dungeon cove island

[gritty elm]

Ah

Is it a good idea to put the traps at 10mins and it still the same chance for shinies?

[white lintel]

Yea but I figured with only natural numbers for talents I’d just round up but ye

[hollow cave]

yea

[white lintel]

Oh those shinies

Yea still more shiny chance but from different sources.
The boost food critter numins is good, and there’s a few other sources like on wiki

[gritty elm]

Send pls

[white lintel]

?wiki trapping

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/trapping

[warm grove]

damn

[gritty elm]

Ty

[hollow cave]

for sake of the calculation though if you want to find the point of the first double at a given level of Blood Marrow and the doubling of any subsequent ones you can use log with a base of 1+listed% (so 1% is 1+0.01) and use 100Log(x) for the first and 2Log(x) for the future doubles, should work for any point from my understanding

[latent mirage]

Is it? I never thought of getting shinies as hard.
Cause all the wasted DNA can just go to upgrades? Or do you mean trying to get all 5 colors?

[warm grove]

nah it sucks, all my shinies are at 1 in 1 chance to get

[hollow cave]

yea by the time I got it all my shinies I think were 1/1 or at worst like 1/3

[latent mirage]

Is that not guaranteed? Sometimes I'll have a 1 to 4 but gene splicing fixed that

[warm grove]

the 1 in 1 isn't guranteed, depends on your chance from upgrades and such

[white lintel]

1/1 isn’t garunteed?

[warm grove]

but usually if it says 1/1 you always get it

[warm grove]

rounding, happens once in a century i think

[hollow cave]

it's possible the 1/1 is rounded so it might not be

[white lintel]

Oh weird

[latent mirage]

... why was all my luck in getting shinies but not doot before the new pet set was released xD

[warm grove]

because shinies are easy

[latent mirage]

All star signs being infinite is nice

[gritty elm]

When my trap says 100% chance for shiny critter does it only affect 1?

[white lintel]

They come in bundles

Like all at once

[warm grove]

chat do I swap games and go play the (not) great valorant?

[sullen hill]

fellassssssssss

[warm grove]

hello Lou

[sullen hill]

what the go folks, i think it's cog o clock

[gritty elm]

So like i can get 83 shinies at once?

[warm grove]

the go is going, gonna try getting to 200m tonight

[white lintel]

It’s TD o clock for me

[sullen hill]

o nice

[sullen hill]

cya in 9 hours haha

[white lintel]

[gritty elm]

So if it says 83 i can get 83 shinies at once?

[white lintel]

Huh

Probably 83% chance to get a shiny drop

[gritty elm]

The trapping

No i meant if it says 100% chance for shinies does it only affect 1 critter?

Or multiple

[gritty elm]

@white lintel

[white lintel]

You can get 1 instance if shinies dropping per trap

Each critter has their own chancr

[warm grove]

my lumberbob statue is 25 lvls higher than my second highest now

[white lintel]

I guess that’s one way to boost log prints

[warm grove]

gs vial is a 2 in 1 boost

[night oracle]

W5 town on mobile crashes so much....

[white lintel]

W4 town always lags a lot when I load it in

[night oracle]

Dang

[warm grove]

it has gotten much worse as of recently

[white path]

need a update dedicated to optimization

[white lintel]

We need a QoL update badly

[true hamlet]

Fixening 2

[stoic vale]

^^

[white lintel]

And just polishing systems off more

[white lintel]

Higher breeding levels and rarer eggs

[white path]

and hopefully he doesn't ask reddit again

[white lintel]

W5 skills need some love

[warm grove]

yeah, not much long term stuff to them

[white lintel]

And they’re just unfinished too

Sailing could use a UI rework please lava

[pulsar girder]

does Mantra on the divinity altar give 1div exp per hour to everyone on the altar, or 1 div exp per hour to everyone wherever they are

[white lintel]

Everyone

If you have everyone on alter everyone gets 10xp per hour

[pulsar girder]

and if i put one of those guys afk on a rift challenge it'd be only 9 and the rift guy would also get 9

[white lintel]

Yep

[pulsar girder]

👍

[worldly galleon]

hey just came back to the game, im at world 3 I dont remember anything can someone give me a quick run through and some helpful links please?

[pulsar girder]

https://idleontoolbox.com/dashboard this can flag shit in red when there's things that are ready to be collected/dailies to go look at and be a good spot to poke around. hard to know where to start not sure what you remember/were doing lol

[worldly galleon]

nop I dont remember a thing ahah

im like this atm

[pulsar girder]

its beautiful

[white lintel]

W1: mining, chopping, crafting
Mining and chopping are node skills and crafting is done at the anvil and with the production tab
W2: fishing catching,alchemy
Fishing and catching are like mining and chopping. Alchemy is a foundational skill where you upgrade bubbles with resources and liquid.
W3: worship, trapping, construction
Construction is a foundational skill for the game that gives access to Multikill, the 3D printer, library, and more. Worship is a TD type mini game that you upgrade your towers with Con, and trapping is boring and annoying

[white lintel]

Don’t claim that nothing character

PLEASE I beg

[worldly galleon]

i have 3 like that ahah

[white lintel]

That’s fine

[worldly galleon]

why?

[warm grove]

gonna have crazy nothing hours

[white lintel]

There’s a thing in w2 called nothing island that you get bonuses off of your nothing hours, but it’s not retroactive so you’ll need to unlock it before you can claim them

[worldly galleon]

oh thanks for telling me that so I go unlock it with one character and get it on the others?

[white lintel]

Yea

[worldly galleon]

how do I unlock it?

[white lintel]

Final map of fishing maps is the island expiditions

[tight willow]

getting the cogs set up is extremely annoying and tedious

[white lintel]

It’s worth it tho

[tight willow]

is there any cog luck% or something

[worldly galleon]

is there any website to see the best skills and like best armor per world so I can have an ideia?

[white lintel]

Yea it’s your highest con lvl that dictates max and min stat %s for non directional cogs

[worldly galleon]

and the best characters to have on my account

[pulsar girder]

they added a thing called Upgrade Vault under
Codex -> Quick Ref -> Upgrade Vault and it lets you just buy so much stats early game that armor's basically irrelevant

[white lintel]

Meta class set up rn is
1-6: one of each
7 second DK
8 secret class
9-10 beginners

[worldly galleon]

quick ref?

[worldly galleon]

so based on my prints what Im I missing?

[pulsar girder]

quick ref

[white lintel]

Most important skills are alchemy, construction, lab, divinity, sailing and stamps but that’s not technically a skill

Also vault (quick ref) and the clickers (secret maps w1-2) are important

[worldly galleon]

clickers?

[white lintel]

Owl and Roo

[worldly galleon]

what do I get from them?

[white lintel]

this is where Roo is, you need to grab secret map from w2 town shop and take it to the crabcake map

[white lintel]

stats n stuff

this is where OWl is just go up the tree

[sullen hill]

we need a lore update, i want to know about the creatures in our world

SAID NO ONE EVER

[white lintel]

@shut hull

[worldly galleon]

what about the best skills I can put?

on my characters

[white lintel]

here

oh you mean talents

[worldly galleon]

sorry im not saying it right

ye the talents

[white lintel]

no youre good I understand what you mean

!talents

[candid scarab]

Having issues understanding how to best use your talents? This guide should be able to break things down. Use the tabs at the top to navigate to whichever class you're currently struggling with and it should become much less overwhelming.

[honest cradle]

is it just me or is the capital p quests hella buggy

[worldly galleon]

so first thing to do is unlock the nothing island? what do I need to get it? fishing 30 only or I need to do something else?

[honest cradle]

Maybe something like sb would be better? its that kill moving mobs one

[white lintel]

fishing 30 and then at last map you get a new currency, bottles, which you use to unlock islands

[worldly galleon]

then I unlock the nothing island and get the bonus for my nothing characters?

[white lintel]

yes sir

[honest cradle]

this is awful

[worldly galleon]

ty for the help @white lintel

[hollow cave]

oh yea in regards to Fractal island, is the time affected by AFK gains or is it purely afk time?

[white lintel]

happy to help

[white lintel]

pure raw time, rounded down to the hour

[fleet crater]

btw make sure you don't leave the map once you get there, the bottles despawn if you leave and don't collect them, then you'd have to wait a bit for more

[hollow cave]

I haven't actually unlocked it myself so hadn't messed with it, ah

[warm grove]

pure afk time but candies count

[hollow cave]

yea, I imagine it's something to dump candy into when I get later on

[white lintel]

much later on

[hollow cave]

yea, the main bonuses that seem handy to me are the 20k and 40k hour ones but for me that would be a comical investment currently

[warm grove]

finally

[night oracle]

W

[gritty elm]

For shiny trapping do i only need 1 bm for my whole entire gameplay?

[worldly galleon]

oh and what about gem upgrades? @white lintel

[honest cradle]

Bro how do people do this

This is awful

[rugged kiln]

Carefully

[honest cradle]

I get to 7k then they just decide to stand still and I lose all points in one bearclaw

[rugged kiln]

Its painful

[edgy sphinx]

Turn off any aoe (including the ones that trigger off basic attacks) and poke em one at a time lol

[honest cradle]

I just thouyght I would try no aoe and see if that maybe fixes it

what a nightmare

[scenic pewter]

roughly 1 hour of ES farming lost battery with 21.52x DR and i only have 28? welp time to reaaaaally afk here to get a splicer for all chars

[opal goblet]

all pushing to elite, 7th chracter is pushing to maestro.
What should i farm with active DK ? pushing to w5 is looog run tbh is it worth it ?

or i should go back and unlock equinox ?

[scenic pewter]

its worth pushing w5/w6 as fast as you can

i would candy it if you have the accuracy required

equinox can wait

[opal goblet]

i was thinking after getting elite classes i put chracters into lab for x2 portal count lab tech

and then push to w5

[scenic pewter]

thats afk tho. might as well active push on the DK, everyone else can lab and your DK can lab overnight

it all smooths out at some point

[honest cradle]

man dna stamp is expensive

[opal goblet]

doesnt specify for AFK

[scenic pewter]

i meant chars in lab is afk

so while everyone else sits in lab you can push on dk

[opal goblet]

howtf they kill mobs for portal count x2 if they stay in lab 😄

[opal goblet]

yep thats what im thinking

[scenic pewter]

only 1 character needs to push really

then you go back and clean up when you are ready

[opal goblet]

before putting them into lab i wanna get elite on them especially bubo.

[edgy sphinx]

Thats why you push W5. You can get the ability to have lab bonuses without characters in lab through Divinity, and the hole

[opal goblet]

i see. so after getting elite and x2 on lab. i should push with DK to w6 and keep chracters into lab ? since they need lab level anyway

[opal goblet]

ohh i didnt know that

[edgy sphinx]

or you can get Doot pet i guess? someone told me he gives bonus even without divinity gods uncloked?

[scenic pewter]

they do but you have to have divinity skill lvl 2 on all chars to get doot benefit

doesnt take very long but need push w5

[sullen hill]

getting close to my mini goal

[mossy anvil]

u dont say

[honest cradle]

I Just tortured myself for a good hour though unlocking it and the other 2

[mossy anvil]

unlocking stamp is good

but some stamps need to be hit with nslb

[native trail]

this noob is still online

[true hamlet]

cogging time

[mossy anvil]

[true hamlet]

a 156 and 157% cog, good start

[mossy anvil]

i would say its enough cog clicking for today

[true hamlet]

I don't disagree

another 157

I do believe that a bit of cog clicking would be good, haven't clicked since my DK was level 600 ish

now he's had some time to level up, gotta go for round 2

[shut hull]

There is lore, go look in all the item descriptions

[true hamlet]

lou, do you have the little cog calculator thing

[tight willow]

after about 4 hours of doing cogs

i am still missing a lot

i love it

[mossy anvil]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-WVcuc5AHtCsAEFy48lAvBzYKLuSIwMp1IU8sqUMpUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0 this?

[true hamlet]

ty

[mossy anvil]

im lou now

[true hamlet]

yes

indeed, 164 is a good board, means I haven't gotten any good cogs

I think I'll just go for 135 min first

[pulsar girder]

the gaming log -> chemical plant loop is wild lol

[mossy anvil]

told u, gaming jail

[pulsar girder]

plus with omniphau now its not just the DKs who suddenly put me back in gamingville

[cloud flicker]

jail time

hehehehehe

[vital parrot]

Why can’t i get other spices

[true hamlet]

need more fight power

[cloud flicker]

^

[vital parrot]

So i can just have chicken

[true hamlet]

?

get somebody who can fight in there, like a mushroom

[hollow cave]

until you have blooming axe you need to have a combat pet with your foraging pets for higher territories

[vital parrot]

Like this?

[hollow cave]

yea

[vital parrot]

I can only start it if i have one fighting guy in the slots

[hollow cave]

after you get levels in breeding the upgrade "Blooming Axe" will give a % of your foraging power as combat power for territories so you don't need to do that, but for now you'll need to

[vital parrot]

Thank you

[rain tiger]

Does increasing breeding multiplier for pets which can't breed new ones have any value ?

For things like gaming exp and sailing, are gains calculated while collecting? Should one switch from fighting to skilling talent when collecting gaming,sailing,farming etc gains?

[true hamlet]

I'm assuming you mean breedability level? It is also used for tome completion and Wind Walker Tempest scaling

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[pliant holly]

oops sorry wrong channel

[true hamlet]

Gaming exp and sailing are indeed only calculated when collection is done

no worries

[warm grove]

I am so bad at this minigame its hilarious

[true hamlet]

dang you just beat my highscore

[heavy yarrow]

got the equinox dream for beating arena round 115 using only 4 pets? what's the ideal setup for that? I was thinking rattler, refiller, looter, borger

[sullen hill]

its been literally 2 years since ive last done it

[warm grove]

I think soon enough I can beat Lavas score because I’m improving pretty quick but oh my do I feel so dumb sometimes

[exotic swallow]

literally why minigame sucks

[kindred basin]

does the 2x portal buff from lab work when using candy?

[craggy oxide]

these abomination kill times are kind of absurd

[exotic swallow]

not a problem for idleoneer like u

[craggy oxide]

with 1.2 million tempest damage I've been plinking away at this purple mush abom for like 6 hours now

and it's still got 40% left to go

[exotic swallow]

bro is still early ww

[craggy oxide]

true.

[kindred basin]

about how long would it take from a full list of lvl 1 labbers to reach the 2x portal buff?

and should i speed up the process with balloons

[exotic swallow]

find out

[kindred basin]

i havent touched lab and forgot that boost existed lmao

should get before candy pushing to W5 / 6

[craggy oxide]

you can balloon it if you want but Lab is truly like a marathon, not a sprint. edit: balloons don't work.

even in world 5 you're gonna have at least one or two folks back in the lab after you unlock the goat god

[cursive galleon]

or be like me, ignore lab after lvl 20 and then lock everyone up for a week and get them to lvl 150 on everyone

[kindred basin]

no ones doing anything i particularly care about lmao gonna leave them in lab daycare overnight and see what happens

[cursive galleon]

its a game eitherway, do what you want to do as long as its not extremely inefficient

[kindred basin]

any buffs to use as a mid W4 guy? besides the lab shoes / ring

does effeciency effect it or anything idk how lab works

[cursive galleon]

mid w4 lab is just tedious and slow, u are better off doing it w5 or w6

do you have doot by chance?

[craggy oxide]

efficiency works on lab

[cursive galleon]

only few sources of lab efficiency are the shoes, rings, bubo talent and post box

[kindred basin]

just gonna try and see if 2x portal bonus is reasonable before pushing with candy basixally

gotcha thanks

[cursive galleon]

for exp gain u have bubo talent, gelatin card, sigil, blobfish vial, star sign, stamp, jewel - purple rhombol, chip, lamp from w5 cavern,3 foods,etc

[kindred basin]

wait can you not balloon lab xp

[true hamlet]

no

[craggy oxide]

I know for sure you can't candy it

but I wouldn't be surprised if you can't balloon it

[kindred basin]

yeah balloons dont work rip

[cloud flicker]

time to afk for weeks

[cloud flicker]

just get 210 on all

no hassle finishing in 2 tries

[brisk mauve]

What in the crazy

[warped coyote]

If I just hit w3, is my main objective in terms of gear to get full amarok on all my chars?

[brisk mauve]

Nah, just the pusher is enough

[warped coyote]

kk

for the rest just leave them at what I have them at already?

[dense fable]

damn, leveling up all my tree cards in every world, helped my printing

does chopping speed helps with Printing?

[craggy oxide]

yeah

[dense fable]

[kindred basin]

all buffs help with printing. cards, card set, prayers, boost food, tools and upgrade stones, cmon man min max those printed gains 💪

[dense fable]

yeah, this is my best

[kindred basin]

power of 10 gains too 🥸

[dense fable]

started playing 2 month ago ( started around April 1 )
I take it, perfection

[finite sail]

This point I have to place my characters on the left here or in the tubes?

[pine fiber]

mainframe

[finite sail]

on mainfame right? ok thx

[dense fable]

example :

[sullen hill]

my board right now - my lowest cog is 275%

[true hamlet]

390% triple deckered cog when fr

[brave cove]

good reference

[true hamlet]

look at him go

[sullen hill]

ehhhh soon lol

[robust marsh]

Some good odds

[cursive galleon]

honestly gear early on isnt necessary esp w vault & alc, but if u are lacking accuracy or dmg then u can make amorak since it has a lot of upgrade slots

[sullen hill]

omg so lucky

[agile fjord]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[warped coyote]

i see so when’s the first time you start to care about gear then

[iron jay]

i believe w6 push. w1-w5 is nerfed worlds

[heavy terrace]

Just tell me whhhy mine does 4k

[dense fable]

my biggest update right now was Onyx statues + Every skill card on 4 Star

[daring pecan]

hello guys
ive completed the Voidmaster quest a while ago and realized i didnt finish the quest for the Vman Tag,
so i went to world 4 town and nebulyte is gone and i cant complete the quest
is he on another place or is my game bugged?

[dense fable]

just from this I went from 1 M/hr --> 155M/hr

[dense fable]

that is a tricky question, let's hope somebody experienced can solve that ( saw that question here on chat multiple times)

[daring pecan]

ok, thanks ill pray🙏

[inner egret]

maybe this helps

[heavy terrace]

You got to w5?

[dense fable]

I am pushing W6 with some decent stats

the W4 early is my account progress overall at my name ( alchemy sucks yet XD)

and other game machincs too

and I can't craft anything in Anvil Tab 4 either
so that's why i am W4 early

[hollow cave]

for sake of Hampter farming is it just AFK/ES/DK? or is there something more efficient than just stiltmoles (I imagine not but just to be certain)

[heavy terrace]

Is there anyway i can eeset my upgrades

[dense fable]

nope, you gotta wait now, did the same

[hollow cave]

as far as I understand, no you just need to fix it going forward

[dense fable]

put on 10% refinery the other two, and level up the red like 5-6 times

[hollow cave]

I would advise having any refinery on any % that isn't 0% unless you deliberately want to upgrade it

[heavy terrace]

So no salt for me until it become?

[lilac plover]

^ keep red on autorefine 0% to rank it up once it reaches 100%

[hollow cave]

you can turn them off and on to manually balance production/consumption, it's just going to be way more tedious

[dense fable]

I am also locked on Salt too
pushing W6, but can't craft stuff from Tier 4 anvil, cause Salt is just Salt

most boring mechanic, Salt

[lilac plover]

real

[dense fable]

I would better put all my guys in Salt afking if that was a thing

instead of Lab/Hole

[true hamlet]

clicked 14k cogs so far, only 1 whitescreen? weird

[dense fable]

I am crafting golden peanuts and got whitescreen

progress lost
now I have to craft them agian

[heavy yarrow]

that's rough :/

I need to craft those now that I think about it, beanstalk time for them lol

wish there was a faster way to craft thousands of something 😦

[white lintel]

Craft from inventory

[dense fable]

I got this many

do I give 10k to Beanstack?
and 2353 on me ?

[heavy yarrow]

yeah, give exactly 10k to stalk

[inner egret]

it kinda makes it lag

[tranquil sequoia]

could someone help i seemed to have soft locked my self on my archer i cant use the sample talent think its because of this quest but idk how i can do it bc well cant use the talent

[late cradle]

Anytime you hit 10k stack on a gold food you put it on the bean ASAP. It gives the same 10k bonus but account wide (like gold statues), and then when you farm more you can can equip the extras and kind of double up on the same food

[dense fable]

why is blud not farming Wurms

[lilac plover]

why use dk over es for active crystal farming?

[inner egret]

need hot dogs and nomwiches mostly

[hollow cave]

gold food farming I presume?

[dense fable]

ah, got it

[dense fable]

Dk has higher DR

[late cradle]

Divine orb drop rate increase effects crystal mob drops

[heavy yarrow]

how tf did you get so many hot dogs?

[hollow cave]

Crystal carrots drop them and I imagine the background of that footage is an example

[lilac plover]

ohh ok ty

[heavy yarrow]

fair I guess lol

[inner egret]

i have been there a while

[late cradle]

Np. It does the same for mini bosses you can spawn on command like biggie hours or the world 3 slush monster, letting you get some pretty nice hauls on rare dropz

[fast cedar]

how to choose which tube in the lab the character will go into? it feels like its completely random, only the most recent character will be in the leftmost tube

[hollow cave]

of what I've heard the order characters are in in the lab tube-wise is based on their order in your account, so if the 1st 5th and 6th characters are in the lab they will be in that order regardless which you put them in

[true hamlet]

only took 16k cogs clicked to reach an acceptable board 😂

16k clicked today I mean

now I guess it's just pumping bob over the next few days

[balmy steppe]

Is breeding arena endless? Currently at round 264 and still going

[true hamlet]

yeah it is

[soft girder]

anyway to speed up crafting? alchemy needs tons of tangled ropes and chains and i get measly amounts

[true hamlet]

level up the hammer hammer bubble

follkey would be disappointed

[soft girder]

oh right

but man do i get measly atom upgrades per day

[true hamlet]

candy it then 😄

[soft girder]

what

[true hamlet]

candy click the bubble

[soft girder]

how

[true hamlet]

go on a dk/bb and go to an iron node, then just use a candy, pick up the items, level up the bubble

[soft girder]

oh wait thats smart

[true hamlet]

how else would people get 100k bubbles

[soft girder]

but i need like insane inventory no?

[true hamlet]

I guess?

[soft girder]

i will try it tho thx

doubt i can have 1000m in my inv rn

[true hamlet]

well, make sure you're getting like 50b iron an hour though

[soft girder]

k

[gritty elm]

How do i get fence pets

[placid peak]

How can the ice cream and bunny be meta? They give me 60k/hr… my board, squirrel,snake, crab cake is sooooo much faster

[soft girder]

is it possible to do without the godshart pouch?

i can get like 70m on my squire rn

[west pilot]

just leave it for later

when you can do good with atoms

or even later with candies

[sullen hill]

16k is a lot o.O

[tame flame]

it takes around 3-5 days for me to reach sneak mastery, should i just do something else?

[west pilot]

you can leave some on the afk

[true hamlet]

I had to make my board adequate, so it was worth it 😂

[west pilot]

and do other stuff

[tame flame]

thats what im doing right now, im playing on dk right now trying to statue farm and gold food farm though im not satisfied yet with my crystal chance (1 in 37)

[tawny ruin]

hey i just unlocked w3 what should i do first

[true hamlet]

my crystal chance is 1 in 34

I need those doublers

[true hamlet]

go through the main quest

[west pilot]

how you doing on dr?

[true hamlet]

w3 is where dreams can come true (and also come crashing down)

[brisk warren]

equinox dreams?

[true hamlet]

kinda

[tame flame]

around 18x

[west pilot]

choco chip?

[tame flame]

yes

[west pilot]

decent enough for now

[soft girder]

took me 7 days and 7 nights just to farm w2 statues

[west pilot]

that seems like early farm

[tardy wraith]

Hi, i want to complete the Frogcoin to the moon quest, but i can´t place my trap anymore. Do you have ideas why i can´t place my trap? i have equipt the trap.

[soft girder]

thats called sheer grit and determination

[pine gale]

W1 slime map

To the left

Maybe its right I’m somewhat challenged in directions

[tardy wraith]

i know the first quest i could do without problems

[soft girder]

i rly need to start doing tower defense

[pine gale]

What does the quest need?

Poison forgs?

[tardy wraith]

but after i have complete to use the trap i can´t placed it a second time. with my other chars i can´t place the trap too

yesw poison frog

[pine gale]

Maybe you didnt claim it?

[tardy wraith]

at skill info the trap is unused and i can´t see the trap at the area

[native forge]

talking first to the npc lord of hunt and unlocking first trapping area is needed

[pine gale]

Hmm…I’m also as confused as you are.
Implied heavily by my naem

[tardy wraith]

thats the first quest bug, i have completed this quest, i can´t placed the trap at the second quest. I need to collect a poison frog

[native forge]

yeah, you need to place traps on frogs till one drops shiny "poison froge"

aka purple frog

[tardy wraith]

that´s my problem i can´t place traps anymore

[native forge]

turning it in will unlock the second quest for you

[native forge]

you have to go with trap equipped to slime map manually

if small frogs aren't there ,you have 2 options ,talking to npc again or doing a cloudsave

but once you unlock critter with quest Once ,they are avaible to anyone for trapping ,you do it only once

[tardy wraith]

ok i will sell my actuall trap, forfeit the quest. Then i will speak to the Lord of the Hunt buy a new trap and run manually to this spot. Thats the second time i will try it

[tardy wraith]

there are small frogs on the map, erverytime i go to the slimes

[native forge]

that's the spot you have to stand on ,with trap equipped

[tardy wraith]

yes i know but i can´t place the trap. i can change the time for the trap but it didn´t placed it after i choose the time for the trap

[pine gale]

How many traps is your limit?

Just asking

[tardy wraith]

1 at the moment

it´s 0/1

[native forge]

if you have first from the shop, you only click the timer you want ,once and it's places

or double click it

because im guessing you didn't do that

double click the timer ,and it sets the trap (it should)

[cloud flicker]

we love cardboard

[placid peak]

Sorry for asking again but, How can the ice cream and bunny be meta? They give me 60k/hr… my board, squirrel,snake, crab cake is sooooo much faster

[white lintel]

Read the description of the genetic

[zenith hare]

its because its not just bunny for meta

[white lintel]

And you’ll wanna get converter too

[native forge]

uhh it's ice creams and bop box xD

[zenith hare]

and fyi, ice cream and bunny is only meta for first 3/4

[placid peak]

i dont have any converters, which is why i am using the buuny

[zenith hare]

otherwise its borger, forager, wode, bunny/converter

[white lintel]

Rush converter

[tardy wraith]

ok i am dumb, i have select the timer and clicked again on place trap 🫣 Thank you 😘

[native forge]

without converters .ice creams are useless there

[placid peak]

the guide also recommend to go with the bunny if wer dont have th converter

[zenith hare]

and borger!

they dont have borger!

[placid peak]

i zee. I have th eborger

[zenith hare]

then use it!

[native forge]

booorger !

[white lintel]

Borgar is like best pet

[zenith hare]

its at least 2x better then board, squirrel, snake, crab as you said here

[placid peak]

what i currently have

[zenith hare]

just by swapping out snake

[native forge]

yeah ,you have nutto, and wode board ,should be enough

[zenith hare]

thats mine rn

given thats quite low pet powers

[placid peak]

for all of the spices? Also if iw want to copy it what should i change the converter to?

[zenith hare]

almost all

minus one of the last 2

this is my generic one

forager just isnt needed for the last one

hence bunny instead

[native forge]

you can change bop box to bunny or whale if you don't have converter yet

[zenith hare]

fleeter is better then whale

unless youre mega buffing a spice

[tribal estuary]

Hey guys I’m having trouble with completing rifts any tips

[lilac plover]

which rift

[sturdy scaffold]

well then

[true hamlet]

better get started

eh? it's not that many ladles

[white lintel]

[sturdy scaffold]

is this good enough

[true hamlet]

it seems Shadow has a long long way to go before he gets isotope discovery

[sturdy scaffold]

i just want my peach rings!!!

[placid peak]

is it worth it to start using my coloseum tickets for W4 eggs, is W5 or W6 more usefull?

[white lintel]

Save for when you fart gfood

[placid peak]

fart gfood?

[shadow lark]

[white lintel]

If you need eggs do w4 minis every week on DK

Farm*

[shadow lark]

arctis vs autocorrect

[placid peak]

sus. Ty

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-gif-5016118126108679217

[hollow cave]

for sake of this which colo do people use tickets on for Gfood or does it vary by which you need

[white lintel]

Mostly w5 colo but it varries

[hollow cave]

I see

[fresh wagon]

how do i get more prayers

[west pilot]

do TD

[fresh wagon]

i only have 2 and i want to do quests but i need to summon something with a prayer

[fresh wagon]

which one i only have starter

[white lintel]

Any

They all have their own prayer rewards

[west pilot]

depends what wave you reached

[cloud flicker]

real

[teal edge]

chat what should i focus on if i wanan push world 4 with a blood berserker

[silent gazelle]

How can i increase duration of orb of remembrance for DK without to put points on skills?

[true hamlet]

afking

[teal edge]

it slow

[true hamlet]

uh, you don't

[teal edge]

i need higher gains

[true hamlet]

bb is fastest afk

[teal edge]

dont have him yet

[west pilot]

that's cause you pushing with afk class

[teal edge]

my other charatcers except the first one are doomed tbh

[cloud flicker]

just fix later

[west pilot]

active DK or ES is faster

than afk

[teal edge]

ts is stats

[wispy pecan]

@white lintel which notes do u wanna use in the harp 🪉

[teal edge]

at those gelantious cubes

[white lintel]

A,G, and C are the big ones I focus

[wispy pecan]

And also hw that thing work

[wispy pecan]

I got C and D

[white lintel]

The speed one will be big for you when you get it

[wispy pecan]

Hmm so should I do C,C or C,D

[white lintel]

D only gives opals

C,C

[wispy pecan]

K

[wispy pecan]

Also Hw do u operate the harp do u like afk it or smth

[white lintel]

Imagine your playing the harp

What do you do

[wispy pecan]

Swipe on strings

I did that but didn't get any notes

[white lintel]

You need at least 100% power

[wispy pecan]

Ohhhhh that's what the power is for makes sense

Thank u for the knowledge

[fresh wagon]

whats the best setup for worshipping

cause i got this

[true hamlet]

what the 😂

yeah, that works early td

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[true hamlet]

Shadow, why nugget so small

do you need to borrow my shovel?

[fresh wagon]

lol

if it works it works

[true hamlet]

I guess so