midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[warm grove]

reasonable

[warm grove]

oh I added more btw

[native forge]

burnout in a nutshell xD

[thorny zinc]

i made one as well after i saw his list

[warm grove]

dw it's a long term goal sheet

[thorny zinc]

yeah same

[warm grove]

i'll have it all done in 1 month

[sullen hill]

Fuck all that mate the ONLY goal you need is: CONSTRUCTION

[warm grove]

true, should change 100k cogs to being on the leaderboard for construction stuff

[knotty falcon]

big chow takes like 10 minutes

unles you mean ALL mobs

[warm grove]

you misunderstand, schow for all mobs includes ALL of them, including equinox rams and boops

[thorny zinc]

sadly i dont think i can finish those before w7 release as sigils are crazy timegated

[sullen hill]

Interestingly enough I know around four people who would be on that board but haven’t uploaded

And more that got removed due to inactivity

[warm grove]

hmm

[sullen hill]

The 180k rank ten would normally not be there at all

[warm grove]

you should be fine

[sullen hill]

300k and above is a true top ten, but for tje sake of the board it’s accurate

[warm grove]

I see, all I am understanding is I just need to do more cogs

[thorny zinc]

oh you are right

[sullen hill]

Yes

Got the leaderboards updated which is a win

[knotty falcon]

I really need to redo my cogs and go all in on bob, I'm stuck at like 150B cons

[sullen hill]

Two new construction categories and a cheater removed, good day

[warm grove]

next update i'll be #1 on PO hopefully

[sullen hill]

I believe in you

[knotty falcon]

Cogs on mobile makes my hand go numb

[warm grove]

I hope we get a highest sanctum reached under the caverns leaderboard

[sullen hill]

That’s a problem category unfortunately

Exploiters on day one could get to 50

[thorny zinc]

nice rei show them that you are more mentally ill than everyone

be nr 1

[warm grove]

I suppose it would be hard to check yeah

[sullen hill]

I’m putting a total skill level category

[warm grove]

but still, think it might be interesting

[sullen hill]

It’s a good detection of account level

[thorny zinc]

damn you beat loli licker GG

[warm grove]

i'm basically second place, 5k orders is chump change

[sullen hill]

Nice

[warm grove]

I think I do have enough pens now to go for 200k orders

so i'll do that throughout this week

[sullen hill]

I want to go for my 1b nugget too

[thorny zinc]

def need to do more

[knotty falcon]

Don't forget the one pen you'll need to sign off on the doctor visit for your hand brace

[warm grove]

I got more than your total on this random box? for shame

[thorny zinc]

as i said before im clicking bubbles not useless orders

[warm grove]

should change the whale in your name to neglector

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-gif-17291530843075000352

[sullen hill]

Post orders used to be good too

[warm grove]

yeah yeah clicking bubbles acting like you can't hourly and do PO

[sullen hill]

Back when they gave colo tickets

[knotty falcon]

Wait, they don't give colo tickets now?

I haven't clicked PO in a while

[sullen hill]

Much rarer odds

[warm grove]

I wish I was around for PO golden age, now the chance for 1 ticket is only in the W4 shipper at like 0.18%

[sullen hill]

To the point where it’s just shot

Yeah used to be able to get like 50 an hour

[knotty falcon]

Last time I clicked PO, active mman at rams was a thing

[sullen hill]

It’s how lots of people got a ton of candies

[warm grove]

I would've been rich damn

[thorny zinc]

real

[sullen hill]

I never did it either

Has the chance and missed it

[native forge]

less cheaters yay

[warm grove]

that and unlimited boss gems

[sullen hill]

Yeah that too

[warm grove]

send me back in time to the day idleon dropped

[native forge]

cheezing amarok back then

[thorny zinc]

you want this UI?

[warm grove]

amarok would not have been happy with how much he died

[warm grove]

acting like I didn't play with this UI

[thorny zinc]

you want it back?

[warm grove]

nothing wrong with it, just dated

[thorny zinc]

idk this new one looks a lot better

[warm grove]

I NEED MY PO ORDERS SHADOW YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND

[thorny zinc]

also w1 is crazy nice now

[warm grove]

lava took everything from me

[thorny zinc]

even your freedom

[warm grove]

yeah basically

i've lost lots of break time to idleon

oh well feels worth it

[native forge]

but 300 bosses daily ;o

[warm grove]

considering if I should play memory games in my non idleon free time to get better at wisdom monument

[west pilot]

I should give it some love

[warm grove]

yeah you should

[thorny zinc]

damn

[west pilot]

It's literally cause i don't want to do achievements

[sullen hill]

Based

[native forge]

you defo should play some rng games to get better in justice

[warm grove]

the ones autoreview wants are relatively easy

a bit annoying though ngl

[west pilot]

Yeah. Just lazy

Not gaming this days

[warm grove]

I see

damn that is a god awful justice run

[thorny zinc]

[native forge]

[thorny zinc]

even i have better runs and im an idiot

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093957608555171895/1303527764485472267/caption.gif

[west pilot]

💀

[warm grove]

yeah because you have luck

[thorny zinc]

[exotic swallow]

is it that hard to use cheat sheet

[west pilot]

Asking for reading

[warm grove]

its easy enough even without the sheet ngl

[exotic swallow]

true

[warm grove]

just need a bit of luck and no timmy

[thorny zinc]

no timmy allowed in w3-w4

[west pilot]

[cyan sequoia]

is there some updated sheet after lava added stuff?

[warm grove]

so close

but I can't take that 0.1% chance you know?

anyways I think i'm actually going to sleep now. GN everyones, i'll be back in like 9 hours probably

[thorny zinc]

gn rei

time for es farm to max all mob vials

[west pilot]

Leave chars afk on samurai

You will thank it later

[thorny zinc]

fair point

[cursive galleon]

shadow how do u acc max out the bar vials

active sb?

[thorny zinc]

nah

max forge cap from hole

[cursive galleon]

ahhh

[thorny zinc]

and 1h candy with sb a gmush

[cursive galleon]

oh wait u can just use candies instead on sb?

snm then

[thorny zinc]

active doesnt work iirc

[west pilot]

Read

[alpine scarab]

2jewels or zen cogs?

[thorny zinc]

zen cogs

[alpine scarab]

ok

[thorny zinc]

nvm active works

[cursive galleon]

i thought it was active because of 'kills count to x seconds forge progress' or smth along the lines

[alpine scarab]

i dont think so

[west pilot]

It's pretty garbage compared to afk tbh

[thorny zinc]

yeah

2m claims arent that great anymore too

[alpine scarab]

idk what happen but got big gems

[thorny zinc]

balls

[west pilot]

Balls

[thorny zinc]

nice br here

[alpine scarab]

oh yeah

[thorny zinc]

i moved my db on board so i can level him up a bit too

[alpine scarab]

the gems is gonna be good

[west pilot]

[cyan sequoia]

I guess I should resample these atleast

[true hamlet]

Sweaty boy

[thorny zinc]

nuh uh

[faint narwhal]

bruh

[thorny zinc]

what

[west pilot]

Bro my resamples sure are crazy

[thorny zinc]

from 1/h to 1.5/h

[west pilot]

@thorny zinc you done with w6 push?

[thorny zinc]

yeah i think 2-3 weeks ago

[west pilot]

Eclipse and all?

[thorny zinc]

all except for w6 im working on it rn

[west pilot]

[thorny zinc]

[alpine scarab]

is it all wows?

[thorny zinc]

yes all except for w6

[alpine scarab]

damn

[cyan sequoia]

I finished w6 wows yesterday

[alpine scarab]

im still on w1

[west pilot]

I dumped my BB back then into all map to do wows

[cyan sequoia]

was it hi with the account issues? Did u get it solved?

[west pilot]

And eclipses the same time

[thorny zinc]

wow nvm 💀

[west pilot]

Lmao

[alpine scarab]

nope sadly my acc is gonna go bye at the end of year

[west pilot]

No love for equinox or gmush

[alpine scarab]

for sand men is their even the hard one?

[west pilot]

It's invisible gmush

[alpine scarab]

oh

[west pilot]

On doot arena

[alpine scarab]

yea but why is it sandmen not green mush?

[west pilot]

Yes

Ig it's just put as sandmen as it is on w2

[thorny zinc]

if you complete the skeleton quest those stop spawning?

[west pilot]

Idk

[thorny zinc]

THEN ITS BUGGED

[west pilot]

They respawn daily

[thorny zinc]

its been 2-3 days without them spawning

[west pilot]

You scared them

[thorny zinc]

not even dr defecaus wants to spawn..

[plain harness]

fuack

It's been a while fellow idlers

[thorny zinc]

hi senpapi

[plain harness]

Sup

[west pilot]

Could be some device desync

Idk

[plain harness]

I got my red salts to rank 19

[thorny zinc]

also i have no picnic npc as well

[plain harness]

a few more to go

[thorny zinc]

for weeks now

[west pilot]

Bro bricked the game

[thorny zinc]

i guess both lava and picnic npc went for milk

[alpine scarab]

u shd prob refresh the game or smt

[thorny zinc]

i did

also verified my files

[west pilot]

Uninstall and never come back

[thorny zinc]

fine

[west pilot]

Last chance

[alpine scarab]

wtb log out and back in?

[thorny zinc]

i will try that now

[cursive galleon]

yum

[thorny zinc]

still nothing

i will prob need to wait for the new update

but lava is missing so no new updates

[cursive galleon]

i dont even have gambit unlocked let alone sanctum

[west pilot]

Lava literally desintegrated

[alpine scarab]

shd i stop upgrading this

[thorny zinc]

never stop

[alpine scarab]

abt to be the same as my grind time

[thorny zinc]

maybe focus on good bubbles then

hourly click the easy ones

hourly clicking works pretty well

[alpine scarab]

i hourly click like the bubbles that need lots of lvl for small buff cuz i hate progression

like hearty digggy and road kill

[alpine scarab]

how many u clicking per h?

[thorny zinc]

let me check

7-10

[alpine scarab]

i got like 2 that is 2h click

[thorny zinc]

for now im aiming for 1k on all bubbles that i can hourly click

[alpine scarab]

nice

im just doing thoes that i can do

[thorny zinc]

ye

[alpine scarab]

toilet paper postage boost liquid rate right?

[native forge]

doesnt seem like it do ,only skill eff ones

[thorny zinc]

all shiny pets unlocked now time to level them up

[cursive galleon]

spam and pray? or wait out 100?

[thorny zinc]

wait for 100

[charred oriole]

are there any guides for shiny pets? i just unlocked it today

[thorny zinc]

follow what autoreview says

[charred oriole]

whats autoreview

[thorny zinc]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[charred oriole]

do i fill up whole fenceyard with shiny green spore?

[thorny zinc]

nah only 3-5 pets of each

for example i do 5

[charred oriole]

alr so prioritize shiny speed first right?

[thorny zinc]

shiny speed and star signs yes

[night oracle]

I just got two lucky lads within 4 minutes...

[thorny zinc]

lol

[night oracle]

I'm now even more convinced I'm getting 75 before luckier lad recipe lol

[mossy anvil]

Lukier recipe is from equinox

Its not that hard tbh, just leave vman skilling somewhere

[white lintel]

What if I wanna do 27 of one pet

[thorny zinc]

still good

[fallow raven]

Hi , in what order i need to organize traps in that arm (from w4) ? (btw i m w6)

[thorny zinc]

now with ww it is prob better to have full one shiny pet lol

i saw griffy doing that too

but im doing 3 pets as im following IT

[fallow crescent]

hey just wanted to check but can pet arena crash on you if theres too many effects?

[fallow raven]

Ok.. ty

[thorny zinc]

wdym

[native forge]

depends what trap tiers you alr having on characters (the tools)

[thorny zinc]

i guess? never happened to me

[white lintel]

Depends, badumdum will crash you bc of how many dmg instances, but others can stack up high and be fine

[fallow crescent]

ah fr?

[white lintel]

Ye

[native forge]

yes its attack speed and it stacks endlessly

[night oracle]

I got another one

[fallow crescent]

cause i was leaving it afk and i just left for a minute when all my guys were full and i came back to the arena ending damn

at what pt is good to stop the badum stacking?

[white lintel]

You can’t really turn it on and off

[fallow crescent]

oh i meant like stop activating it

[white lintel]

You can’t turn specific skills on and off during a run

[fallow crescent]

oh damn fr? so do ijust have to manually do it initially

[white lintel]

Just.. don’t use badumdum

[fallow crescent]

gotta find a meta comp that doesnt use it zz been using the google sheet floating arnd for it

[native forge]

is your goal 200 lv arena?

[fallow crescent]

trying to get 125 first, was at 123 when it crashed i think

[fallow raven]

There exist yt videos from which i can copy a setup for traps?

[iron urchin]

Quick Q, how do people think I should distribute my opals rn?
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=BrightZoe

[white lintel]

Justice more important than bravery

[fallow raven]

Ty

[white lintel]

You could consider doing full study to get them set up

[torpid cedar]

I think putting all on explorer to get wisdom monument then you start unlocking the schematics up to that

[white lintel]

What would wis monu even help with

[nocturne jolt]

Any tips on the rift that you have to get the skulls above the head to a certain level?

[torpid cedar]

More villagers exp and rupies value?

[next pebble]

don't clear the screen with some big ass cleave skill, other than that not really, its just rng

[nocturne jolt]

So should I kill the skull head or no

[next pebble]

yes, just dont kill all enemies at once or the skull will have nowhere to move to

[nocturne jolt]

Oh ok thank you

[zenith hare]

update when

[white lintel]

Lava died

[steady tiger]

Man i wish u could print money so i can commit money laundering

[zenith hare]

technically you can

you just sell the mats instead

[white lintel]

The humble DK at Sam guards

[hallow bear]

New packs when u mean. Im alr suffering withdrawal symptomps from lack of packs

[zenith hare]

I just want bubo master

gives me a reason to actually cc

[white lintel]

More liquids

[cyan sequoia]

bubo master will release with a liquid hat

its gonna be epic

[native forge]

masterclass bubo will become liquid himself

[polar geyser]

by the time i get home tonight ill finally be able to start the grind to vman after my messup last week

[cyan sequoia]

autoreview tells me I can take off sampler guess I should resample

[polar geyser]

mines still telling me i need more than the default star signs

[native forge]

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/bangboo-possessed-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-hoyo-gif-15289740452544193747

[polar geyser]

shadowww

i might be able to get nobi when i start vman

gamba gamba gamba gold gold gold

[thorny zinc]

do 1% until 100%

[polar geyser]

but then ill still be waiting on time to get nobi

but i trust you

no lucks on the 1 5 and 10%s either sadly

[white lintel]

Ngl, spamming small batch is probably cheaper than saving for 100

Even with bad luck

[thorny zinc]

i guess

idk i always did 100%

[white lintel]

There’s a bubble that gives chance to not spend points on a buy

[polar geyser]

if i wait for the 100% i think itll be another like 3-4 days

[strange flare]

worth

[cursive galleon]

statistically speaking you're probably more likely to reach a new god faster with 1% tries than waiting for 100% but the difference is minimal

[thorny zinc]

yeah i rather wait and not gamble

[cursive galleon]

but if u do get unlucky well enjoy jail

[strange flare]

guaranteed is guaranteed

[cursive galleon]

!

whats the ideal level for shinies btw? im pretty sure its nearly impossible to reach the max lvl right?

[white lintel]

:)

[thorny zinc]

follow autoreview

and there is no max lvl

[cursive galleon]

i swear its like lvl 17 or something

[thorny zinc]

but 20 should be a good goal

nope

[white lintel]

ME WHEN I SPREAD MISINFORMATION

[cursive galleon]

let me double check

[thorny zinc]

THERE IS?

[white lintel]

YEA

20 is max

[thorny zinc]

a lol

[cursive galleon]

lvl 20 is max yeah

and it takes 2.7million days 😭

[thorny zinc]

easy

[thorny zinc]

my bad

[cursive galleon]

shadow willing to spend aeternum to get lvl 20 shinies

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-cut-him-down-tear-him-apart-splay-the-gore-gif-16211356125689318290

[thorny zinc]

i thought you can go past 20 but its impossible due to how many days it needs

[cursive galleon]

yeah its insane, im lvl 8 right now after 2 days but the requirement for afk is getting crazy

[thorny zinc]

scoli already wants me to get shinies at lvl 13

[white lintel]

No, it’s a hard cap

[cursive galleon]

bruh.

[torpid cedar]

Getting lvl 15 shouldnt be that hard imo

[cursive galleon]

yeah im just gna let it sit around lvl 10 for now

[white lintel]

Hard cap @thorny zinc

[cursive galleon]

yeah but i havent unlocked a lot of shiny speed yet, not going to force 15 with how slow its gna get for me

[thorny zinc]

oh okay

[cursive galleon]

eee...

[thorny zinc]

[torpid cedar]

With these i get lvl 15 in about 2 days ? I forgor

[polar geyser]

wait shadow i need a quick answer cause im about to run out the door

i just unlocked the bell in the hole, what bell should i stick it on just first one?

[alpine scarab]

regular i guess

[thorny zinc]

ring bell

for buffs

[true hamlet]

I had a bit of time today so I went through IT to see how screwed up my account is after 1 month of neglect. Safe to say, pretty bad shape

😂

[native forge]

use hole for more hole

[true hamlet]

practice makes perfect

[torpid cedar]

Casually spreading misinformation

[thorny zinc]

thats the WHOLE point

[polar geyser]

much love to you both

[simple hatch]

Hey guys, how can I push "Bamboo Forest" territory?
I got to Spirit Fields with the classic "Looter" setup, but it can't seem to work for Bamboo, too many attacks are coming in for the Shields to kick in

[polar geyser]

Alright I'm back on my phone, yeah I didn't realise the time and then spotted my bus was in 5 minutes and i wasn't even dressed to leave so had to just throw on some shit and get out the door

[thorny zinc]

rattler mono looter refill shield refill

[simple hatch]

Only bring in looter closer to front so he can pop another shield? And hope to get lucky at start?

[thorny zinc]

just auto with that

[polar geyser]

My bus arrived right as I got there so you two came in clutch shadow and hi

[true hamlet]

I had a slight panic attack when I thought I didn't save enough wishes to do my opal reset lmao

[true marlin]

swap bone for peapod

for some reason that works, at least on reddit it said it did and when i followed it, it did

[true hamlet]

peapod works if you have cursory, flashy and alchemic

[west pilot]

Cap

[true hamlet]

1.5k grimoire upgrades till I open up w6

[native forge]

yea ,peapod shoots more basic attacks than rattler

[true hamlet]

rattler builds it's own damage. However, peapod has more base projectiles, meaning that if flashy and alchemy procs, you get a lot of damage built up from cursory bonus

[simple hatch]

Right now my main problem is that even if I time the first shield, by the time another shield passes, so many projectiles have been fired that my Refiller is dead

basically I feel like I get showered with attacks and can't physically block em all

[true hamlet]

you're using the monolith lineup?

[west pilot]

You can just use looters

[true hamlet]

isn't it implied

[simple hatch]

Literally right now 😄

[true hamlet]

shouldn't be a problem if you time the mono

[west pilot]

Using double refiller?

[true hamlet]

yeah he is

[simple hatch]

I think it might've clicked this time

[west pilot]

Just rng, you can enter quit to have all skill filled when yyou start

[simple hatch]

Yeah that's what I was doing. But I guess the Peapod > Rattler did it for me

Now to hope that this thing does not take up like 20-30h 😂

[west pilot]

Later ones you end up sniping monolith for more dmg

Either second peapod or looter

[simple hatch]

Hmm... battle went on for like 30-60 seconds, and the Refiller died 😮

[mossy anvil]

guys where do u spent your extra wishes

[alpine scarab]

inf resource is good

[mossy anvil]

refiller dies at some point, its there just to ramp up

[simple hatch]

I thought that once it clicks with that many shields I'm invulnerable 😄

[true marlin]

keep going

[true hamlet]

I'm pushing for inf resource, I plan to dump there

[mossy anvil]

ah right, needed bfr but didnt notice it there, thanks

[west pilot]

💀

[alpine scarab]

whats bfr?

[true hamlet]

bucket

[west pilot]

No. There's a low percentaje to get hit

[alpine scarab]

ic

[west pilot]

Also you can swap defender for trasher

Trasher is manual tho

[simple hatch]

Still alive 😮

One of my last battles I had to leave overnight.. this thing for some reason is dealing tons of damage with the only change being Peapod -> Rattler 🤯

[mossy anvil]

bucket fill rate

[mossy anvil]

peapod deals 75% base dmg

so for spice battles i wopuld say rattler is better

[native forge]

looter enchances attacks ,if it's still alive

[west pilot]

Nah

[true hamlet]

do you have alchemic and flashy unlocked?

[west pilot]

Peapod clears rattler

[true hamlet]

peapod only clears rattler if you have flashy and alchemic unlocked

[west pilot]

Why would you have peapod and not any alchemic/flashy unlocked

[true hamlet]

I'm dense, my bad

I haven't played this game in a hot minute

[alpine scarab]

cap

[thorny zinc]

i love how jjoe keeps saying he doesnt play the game to excuse his neglection

[true hamlet]

I just claimed 34 days of sailing time

and yes, not playing is a form of neglect

[mossy anvil]

anything to fix here? add some more points somewhere?

[polar geyser]

Embrace the neglect jio, I've played for a month straight sometimes full 24 hours straight and I still have less bubbles than statues

[true hamlet]

I don't have the time to baby sit this game lmao

haven't really played, still no w5 statues

[stray minnow]

Does trapping efficiency count when you place a trap or empty it? Or both?

[true hamlet]

place

[polar geyser]

Oh that reminds me ill need to work on getting statues to do the onyx quest soon

[true hamlet]

exp and efficiency is when placed, shinies is when collected

[stray minnow]

Awesome cheers

[polar geyser]

Reminder to do your daily vials
And bobjoepickle

[night oracle]

It is time that I finally resample

[polar geyser]

Wait the 10m regular logs to 800 tropical

[night oracle]

I think I might be able to hit 500m

Maybe

[polar geyser]

I believe, you got this

I feel like I'll need to work on pets at some point

[true hamlet]

[polar geyser]

[thorny zinc]

noob

[true hamlet]

I am THE vial neglecter

[thorny zinc]

11 looks better

[true hamlet]

unlike you, I got no maxed vials

[thorny zinc]

you literally have more than me

[true hamlet]

I counted 0 maxed vials in that picture 😂

[alpine scarab]

cant blame him if im doing the same

[thorny zinc]

xd

[alpine scarab]

no I AM THE MASTER OF NEGLECT

[sleek bane]

No balljoepickles

[thorny zinc]

[polar geyser]

That's where you went wrong, in that PICTURE, we out here rocking 0 total

[true hamlet]

my DK is pretty bad jeez

41.28x DR, 1 in 34 Crystal Chance and 372 Orb

no wonder I have no statues to speak of

[alpine scarab]

im at 25dr 28 crystaland 324 orb im better at neglect

how do u get orb so high tho?

[true hamlet]

dang, 28 crystal, I'm better at neglect

go figure

[alpine scarab]

dang 2x my dr i wonder whose nejlecting

even my spelling gave up

[true hamlet]

DR is swipable, ask Shadow, he'd know

[thorny zinc]

nejlecting

[alpine scarab]

u got slug?

[night oracle]

Do mega crits count for more multikill?

[true hamlet]

yeah, Daus sponsered a slug

[mossy anvil]

[alpine scarab]

we are both f2p no excuses im better at neglect

[mossy anvil]

but im not neglecting hi

[alpine scarab]

ermm

[true hamlet]

ok, that's enough gaming for today

[alpine scarab]

u money farming?

[true hamlet]

no

idk what I'm doing either

[alpine scarab]

exp?

[true hamlet]

I play so little I don't even have plans lmfao

[alpine scarab]

cap

[true hamlet]

fallen off fr

[alpine scarab]

idk

at the rate u going last time u could be like bean

[true hamlet]

no, I may be back to playing for 1h a day, but that's still less than 24h a day

[alpine scarab]

just leave your comp on while doing smt that dont require u to baby sit

[true hamlet]

I don't wish to leave my pc on

[alpine scarab]

like sb or boubo

[true hamlet]

game isn't that important

[alpine scarab]

but u can do smt else instead

[thorny zinc]

wrong

[true hamlet]

I'm a flithy little casual

[alpine scarab]

cap

[thorny zinc]

the same guy btw

[alpine scarab]

lmao

[true hamlet]

yup

[thorny zinc]

he is in the neglecting arc

[mossy anvil]

hi manny

[native trail]

ow hi nejooooo

[night oracle]

What do I sample on my WW?

[true hamlet]

guess who decided to whale even more in the coming months

[mossy anvil]

mob mats

[thorny zinc]

idk what are you talking about

[true hamlet]

DR whale smh

[night oracle]

Alr

[true hamlet]

why no 60x DR yet

[thorny zinc]

no sanctum or more than 100 crops

[alpine scarab]

why no pass me yet

[true hamlet]

ew, you don't need either to get to 60 if you whale

[alpine scarab]

what dr are u at

[thorny zinc]

45

[mossy anvil]

[true hamlet]

with island explorer and DB? cooked

[native trail]

let’s gooo

[mossy anvil]

lets goo manny

[native trail]

yessir

soooo how this works

[alpine scarab]

eww only double mine and i dont have event pet

[thorny zinc]

💀

[true hamlet]

only 3 more than a guy who doesn't play or whale smh

[mossy anvil]

u harvest crops and get xp for your land

[sullen hill]

time to empty

[native trail]

oh why only one crop has a rank

[mossy anvil]

if u level it next crop will get rank etc

it spreads 1 by 1

[native trail]

ohhh damn that’s good

[thorny zinc]

i dont have sanctum, crops, 1m plunderous kills, sigil maxed, cards maxed

[true hamlet]

guess what, neither do I

[thorny zinc]

also iirc wisdom monument gives dr?

[true hamlet]

you have wisdom

[thorny zinc]

if yes i dont have that either

[alpine scarab]

me 2

[thorny zinc]

i dont have the dr bonus i mean

[alpine scarab]

only whale like u have max dr card

[true hamlet]

that's a skill issue isn't it?

just guess correctly,, it's not that hard fr

[thorny zinc]

💀

i need more hours

[true hamlet]

you mean you need a bigger brain

[mossy anvil]

why u bully him, he was crafting marbi gear for 2 weeks straight, without salt issue coz he had kruk already. DOnt bother bro

[true hamlet]

he dooted, I gotta bully him

[alpine scarab]

isnt marbel easy

[mossy anvil]

not even doot can help

[true hamlet]

on the other hand, I'm a gear neglect practicioner...

[mossy anvil]

thats the whole point

[alpine scarab]

your evil

[mossy anvil]

im speaking facts

[odd osprey]

What spice is needed to unlock leek? I don't see recipes on the wiki

[mossy anvil]

post something> get commented on that thing> get mad

[thorny zinc]

you actually just being a dog like always dw

[mossy anvil]

[alpine scarab]

wut

[alpine scarab]

me 2 dumb to understand insults

[true hamlet]

fair point, I can't bully Shadow in terms of equipment, mine's too neglected too 😂

[mossy anvil]

tbh i preffer that than being cry baby, all good

[thorny zinc]

lmao

you are just acting like you are the best player and bully for no reason

but okay

[alpine scarab]

and u say u neglect the only thing bad is key chains

[true hamlet]

I didn't distribute food

[alpine scarab]

im better at neglect

[zenith hare]

the insult flew under you that's how high you are

[true hamlet]

I didn't upgrade stuff

[mossy anvil]

im nowhere near best

[thorny zinc]

ok

[true hamlet]

I thought Shadow worked on gshard?

[thorny zinc]

im tired of your dumb comments

[mossy anvil]

[alpine scarab]

i am the best player (for neglecting)

[thorny zinc]

yeah i only need tools now

[true hamlet]

I knew my gear was bad.. dang

[alpine scarab]

rip why every one better tools then me

[thorny zinc]

but ofc yeah you are right im the problem

[mossy anvil]

i didnt say that

[iron jay]

discord drama?

[thorny zinc]

you literally have the best gear how would that be bad

[mossy anvil]

no drama

[true hamlet]

gear includes tools, p2w stuff and food... FOOD

[thorny zinc]

im not hungry

[true hamlet]

inventory review

[alpine scarab]

i think im neglecting too much but i dont care

[zenith hare]

food isn't needed in w6 if ur onyx'd

[thorny zinc]

2 sets😭

[true hamlet]

grilled cheese etc.

gfood stuff

[pine gale]

guh…

[iron jay]

no emperor opal rings

[true hamlet]

I hate dungeons, I don't have any 5 star dungeon cards

I feel like doing some bravery

probably won't get to last stand 2

[night oracle]

While sampling my game said "error: you dropped the sample"

[true hamlet]

last stand 2 33 hp, sad

[true hamlet]

don't move

just sit tight

[night oracle]

I wasn't moving 😭

[iron jay]

seems like you try sample something weird

[mossy anvil]

[mint furnace]

dangit i want that

[river spruce]

how much build rate should i have before working on the atom collider

[sullen hill]

nice, hope this will be enough for m5

[mossy anvil]

u can have it timmy

[mint furnace]

wait how do i

uhh

idk how to get it

[alpine scarab]

shit

[true hamlet]

dang

[native forge]

you just untool'ed your dude

[iron jay]

never enough

[river spruce]

so then never make it?

[alpine scarab]

i thought i got every one to high lvl for gshard

[iron jay]

dont wait, just make

[native forge]

now it's oops. you get levels without any tools ? xd

[river spruce]

ok. i got 15k per hour and its 50M but ill work on it xD

[pine gale]

I just kept it on build tab for like a month
Mostly because I don’t have resources to upgrade stuf

[iron jay]

btw, you can check your build time in IT

[alpine scarab]

yea cuz im lazy

[pine gale]

Even once I built it it’s kinda useless to me rn

[river spruce]

IT?

[mint furnace]

!it

[iron jay]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[pine gale]

!IT

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[river spruce]

Oh toolbox. Gotcha

[iron jay]

guys

[mint furnace]

HAHAHA

[pine gale]

Well thats a bit overkil

[mint furnace]

i don't think so i think we need more

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[river spruce]

Not sure what trimmed/non trimmed means

[sullen hill]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[iron jay]

golden is trimmed

anyway, seems you too low

[river spruce]

Yeah. Thats why i asked xD

[iron jay]

there is no "recommended" build rate. Just as you feel

[sullen hill]

recommended is "high"

[mint furnace]

build rate funi

[sullen hill]

yee got to 17T now

[river spruce]

Well. There was a thing when people told me to stop building AC. But now theres not many things for me to unlock besides that

[river spruce]

How do you get that high? mine is like 15k

[mint furnace]

upgrade towers

[sullen hill]

im a big boy

[mint furnace]

Focus on player XP for cogs, put DK on board

[celest bone]

What helps increase the length of your lab connections?

[river spruce]

Yeah thats what im doing. thx tho ❤️

[pine gale]

All I know is lab levels

[mint furnace]

Lab levels
Meals
Bubo talents
A lot of others

[mossy anvil]

and if u talking about node connection its summuning, merits and equinox

[celest bone]

I've just committed to putting all players in the lab for now and some players are longer than others, so makes sense being lab levels cos the newer ones are shorter

[pine gale]

Welcome to the lab jail

[celest bone]

Not sure if I should be doing like half & half or

[night oracle]

Not done yet, but it's already looking a lot better

I just need to know what I'll be sampling on my vman

Like I know mob materials, but idk which ones

[little island]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=kingofnoobz

[mint furnace]

Vials?

[little island]

can you tell me what i need to work on?

[true hamlet]

grr why does pyrite rhombol take so long to come into rotation

[mint furnace]

because yes

[iron jay]

easiest way - gamble with gems

because no duplicates

[pulsar girder]

i think its next week?

i've been gem gambling them but i'm actually takingnext week off from it bc i still need rhombol and figure the odds of getting an upcoming one are actually kinda high for me rn

[true hamlet]

I've been waiting for it for 3 months lol

[mint furnace]

yeah that's me too
im just missing one of the freaking opal ones

[pulsar girder]

haven't unlocked those yet haha

[iron jay]

btw, few weeks to choco chip

[pulsar girder]

i knooooowwwwwww i am so ready

[true marlin]

your next goal should probably be to get DK tbh

[iron jay]

good chance for newbies to start farm crystals

[pulsar girder]

strong goal of mine is to not be unable to buy any chips/jewels as they come through so i've been really focusing on getting the spices and stuff

which, actually, i think i'm there minus the opal ones which i'm a long way away from unlocking in the emporium anyway

oh almost. couple more spices didn't see the omega chips

[mint furnace]

i still need one opal but I can't remember which ;-;

[true hamlet]

I plan to buy every jewel up to the pyrite pyramite, then gem shop the rest

[pulsar girder]

missing out on silkrode nanochip this week stung a bit. i got to the food in time but 2M luigi brackets was too much 😦

[night oracle]

I didn't have the spices for it :(

[true hamlet]

next 2 weeks have cheap chips

next expensive chip is poker chip

[pulsar girder]

yeah i should start making pvc pipes for that now actually

oh wait i can't yet! lol. maybe won't be able to get that one in time. we'll see

[alpine scarab]

im done with gshard tools what i miss?

[mint furnace]

what does that do again

[pulsar girder]

1.25x weapon power

[mint furnace]

oh

[pulsar girder]

not a game changer but when my chip slots aren't filled it would certainly be welcome, i assume

or maybe it is a game changer and idk how strong weapon power is

but i don't have good weapons so!!!!

[mossy anvil]

pretty good, unlucky that i cannot enchant minecraft jewel

[alpine scarab]

the chip is decent tbh

[night oracle]

My second SB's samples are so low

[strange flare]

time to hop on the idles of the ons

[alpine scarab]

rip i cant do gshrd gear today no wishes left

[exotic swallow]

time to not care

[night oracle]

Yeah, I'm not taking more samples than those 4

[strange flare]

the art of neglect

[exotic swallow]

the art of no sweat

[strange flare]

the art of no intent

[mint furnace]

the art of icecream

[exotic swallow]

the art of me claiming my crops now and actually do bean trades

[strange flare]

wild

[exotic swallow]

ready to teleport 213123131 times

uogh....

[night oracle]

I really needed this

[exotic swallow]

should I rename myself to fertile cat for lols

[alpine scarab]

theirs alr a fertile dog so up to u

[exotic swallow]

yeah and mods fine with that

so that shouldnt be a problem

[torpid cedar]

This changed my next crop chance from 0% to a massive 0%

[exotic swallow]

true

I've been insanely lazy to do bean trade so

I'd do it rn

[strange flare]

door

[exotic swallow]

door to quiting idleon

[strange flare]

oh goodies

[alpine scarab]

soon door

[honest cradle]

-_- the faster respawn from po boxes is for your character?

[pulsar girder]

all the po box stuff is just for character

[exotic swallow]

poo boxes

[pulsar girder]

i'm just kind of sitting on points until i know what i want from them and i haven't unlocked page 2 yet lol

[exotic swallow]

could lava stop cooking 1000 bundles

and at least refresh limited shop 🙏

[alpine scarab]

go dr then main skill box

[honest cradle]

I was scammed, why would he word it that way

[night oracle]

It's reviving yes

[pulsar girder]

main skill meaning

[alpine scarab]

bb do fish and mining boubo do lab and chopping and so on

[strange flare]

[pulsar girder]

should someone maybe change the wiki that says to do fight afk% first on everyone

[strange flare]

obv this wins

finally

[exotic swallow]

yah well

[alpine scarab]

ocd is kicken in

[exotic swallow]

obviously buboing entire week if this hits

and upgrading my ass liquids

[strange flare]

i may have to bubo too even though I dont have 400 tent

[exotic swallow]

not like u getting it any time soon

[strange flare]

can probably turn of viaduct and just let liquidvestment go brrr

[strange flare]

so true

[pulsar girder]

i should unlock liquidvestment by then but it'll be low rank. better than nothin

not that i get crazy cranium cooking times. but overnight gains i guess

[strange flare]

id max it asap if you get it

[exotic swallow]

well duh every other upgrade are not as good

[pulsar girder]

The level limit on it is gated by more equinox that is out of reach i mean

Maybe i can do a weekly boss soon? I dont really know how far away that is tbh

[strange flare]

i wont even go into GT ill go straight liquid regen

[exotic swallow]

yea I'd rather

upgrade my liquids than gt rn

[pulsar girder]

Oh nice i got my current whole lab lit up without viaduct with bubo on the right for exp. Now we’re just in there for the chip unlocks. Which i couldn’t possibly use any time soon considering i own two chips. Maybe i turn goharut to harriep and put everyone back on the divinity shrine printing big numbies and giving me more coins for now

[quaint zinc]

Is dharma mesa possible in pet breeding

[native forge]

you need to reach proper mob map in w6

[pine fiber]

wdym by possible?

[exotic swallow]

yes

people have done it, and it's easy to do/unlock

[polar geyser]

Hopefully when I get back home my refinery will have started printing some of the blue salts so I can start working on towers and top row of building

[ember vector]

guys now i'm back to the lab jail. when can i get out i wonder

[quaint zinc]

Ah okey

[alpine scarab]

why is your vman mining?

[ember vector]

for cards

[native forge]

if u have db bones drop unlocked, it's advised to collect them at fighting afk

[alpine scarab]

not really the best but sure

[ember vector]

what about its div level

[ember vector]

i heard that div level will affect the div bonus one gets

[hexed shoal]

Once everyone is lvl 2700 lab you can get out

[native forge]

yeah, arctis one ,depending on Your big P bubble

but still would advise that you get essence transferral on bubo ,and set db on tranqi style ,and gain afk bones

[ember vector]

2700

[alpine scarab]

why is big p so good?

[native forge]

3x700=

[alpine scarab]

isnt it only 2 lab jail not 3 lab jail

[native forge]

75 lvl for everyone ,so you get all chip slots, and 2100 total levels for jewels from emporium

[hexed shoal]

Bcuz it's big and it's P

[alpine scarab]

shd i even upgrade it even tho im dootless

[ember vector]

thank you. i was totally confused

[strange prism]

[strange prism]

buffs talent levels given by arctis

[alpine scarab]

oh damn

ima atom the shit out of it then

what shd i lvl it to tho?

[native forge]

there are some breakpoints ,but it depends on your div lvls

[alpine scarab]

wtym?

[native forge]

if your div is higher ,you need less points in big P to reach more talents

[alpine scarab]

ic

[strange prism]

1 sec

[alpine scarab]

if it is 100 then what lvl do i need big p to be?

[native forge]

pretty sure ie autoreview will tell u all breakpoints

[strange prism]

15, 16, and 17

[wispy pecan]

Guys What should u put ur points into in the conjurer's from the hole

[strange prism]

I dont have the thing for 18-20

[night oracle]

Almost got 2 more armor sets ready

[wispy pecan]

Can someone tell me ???

[alpine scarab]

do u have doot?

[wispy pecan]

Nope

[alpine scarab]

u can check w5 pins for exact proi

but ussally go 3 middle then enchance the first one on the right

[dense fable]

unlock 2-3 stuff on red and green stuff ( if it seems helpful to you at your stage )
after that every points nuked in Blue side

[exotic swallow]

or simply

[wispy pecan]

Ok

[wispy pecan]

First red ?

[exotic swallow]

fuck I got bad collectibles

[dense fable]

yeah, unlock 1-2 at red, 1-2 at green
and after that unlock blues and put points in blues

[wispy pecan]

Ok

[alpine scarab]

wait nvm

[dense fable]

idk how doot affects it, sry XD ( I am dooter XD)

[alpine scarab]

no i read wrongly

but enchancement and doot shd be top prio

[livid jasper]

how to play this?

[wispy pecan]

Ye but doot it hard to get

[dense fable]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1z1P2ouvYhe2pryWoF0kIQE7QichYpJt1GaPPos-e-aw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[livid jasper]

💳

[dense fable]

here is the page for it, for every week

[livid jasper]

how to read that?

[wispy pecan]

Can't even tho I would like to

[dense fable]

like you red a book, so :

3 1 1 , 3 1 2 , 3 2 , 3 , 2 3 1 , 1 3 1
etc.

[livid jasper]

so just follow the 5 skull?

what is the char requirement?

[exotic swallow]

trash weeks

[dense fable]

at the start I think yes
Misc+trophy is for high level players

[livid jasper]

so the char who plays it need to have lvl 8 chopping and lvl 5 fishing?

[dense fable]

that means the game will take the character's levels in consideration

so every character should have high level skills, else you can't kill it ( this is hard at the beginning )

[exotic swallow]

from my experience, I didnt care about any of those

[alpine scarab]

so the 8char uses chopping to deal damage

[livid jasper]

i follow the instruction how to do the FR?

[dense fable]

yeah, so if you 8. char is a lvl 0 on chopping, you might be cooked
but that is normal at low level

you got FR ( full reset )

because you start again

from first point ( so full reset happened )

[native forge]

1-10 dots are your 1-10 characters

[livid jasper]

really dont understand this game lol

[dense fable]

you are weak yet, you will get stronger ( overall account progress )

[livid jasper]

what the difference with the misc+throphy?

[dense fable]

idk about that
I tried both, and got 5 skulls anyway XD

[native forge]

you get trophies for defeating it ,once per week ,

[exotic swallow]

lets be real u will forget this info tmr

[native forge]

then if you choose the right misc you can g et additional trophies

[lucid osprey]

I'd guess there are certain misc options to get a bonus trophy

[livid jasper]

we do it twice a day?

[exotic swallow]

u can do it 2 times a week in one day, then other days 1

since it allows u to reset 1 time a week

[livid jasper]

so all char ideally have lvl 15 in all W1-W2 Skilling?

or 10?

[dense fable]

I played that game rarely when I was low leveL

now I got lvl 30+ in every skills, and it's very easy ( every char )

[exotic swallow]

I do not care about those numbers, and I did not care about those numbers when I were tutorial

problem solved

[night oracle]

Copium

[exotic swallow]

literally least of the worries when u are on tutorial

[night oracle]

xD

[dense fable]

yeah, don't focus on that miniboss minigame, just progress in game and it will be easy after a while

[true hamlet]

I'm in tutorial stage

[exotic swallow]

nah u are early

[true hamlet]

No autoloot = tutorial/demo version

[livid jasper]

so that game not give ada stats?

[true hamlet]

It's good for a bit of dr

[exotic swallow]

there a talent that gives u dr depending how much skulls u get

[true hamlet]

And some gold stopwatches

[dense fable]

you get some trophies for Comestics/other endgame stuff

[exotic swallow]

and these trophies used to buy stuff

such as golden watches that allow u to do daily reset immediately

slab items, killroy skulls

said talent above

[livid jasper]

that hat what is that for?

[exotic swallow]

slab

[true hamlet]

And looks

[livid jasper]

UI is only UI ? why it has HPMPXP thng?

[exotic swallow]

ui is only ui

[pulsar girder]

Is that what it takes to go for the equinox bubble? I should really do that lol

[cyan sequoia]

does mob respawn % work in killroy?

[livid jasper]

should i buy the gold pocket watch?

[exotic swallow]

most useful things would be pocket watches if u want to trigger daily resets

[livid jasper]

it ccan be bought daily?

[exotic swallow]

it can be bought without limit if u have trophies

[pulsar girder]

It can be bought for trophies and on use it instantly triggers everything that happens on a daily basis

[livid jasper]

but if i dont lvlup my skilling the score will be the same right?

[pulsar girder]

Yeah

[exotic swallow]

u will lvl it up eventually, since u'll get ur tools better

[livid jasper]

if we hit 5 skull how much thropy we get?

[livid jasper]

my skilling? how it lvlup while all my char is on lab lol

[pulsar girder]

You can always take them out for a minute and spend candies and put them back

[somber depot]

WTAF IS MY LUCK IN SNEAKING

[livid jasper]

is lvl 10 enough? i can do it active , its so fast to go to lvl 10

[pulsar girder]

Idk i also haven’t gotten a good score on this ever lol

[somber depot]

But I already had it

[exotic swallow]

when u finally decide to COME out of it to lvl them up!

not like it'll gonna take a while, just candy

[livid jasper]

is the chopping efficiency matter on that game?

[exotic swallow]

every efficiency does

they make ur gains bigger

things like printer samples become bigger, more resources overall

[livid jasper]

so every char must equip good item?

[pulsar girder]

But like for the weekly boss clicks it’s just a function of level, right

[worn raptor]

candies exist btw

[livid jasper]

is that worth?

[worn raptor]

obviusly lmao xd

[pulsar girder]

Level would be easier to raise with more eff but when you go to do weekly boss it just looks at level right

[pulsar girder]

If you have better things to use them on then no. Are you in w6 yet

[livid jasper]

W5

[exotic swallow]

doubt 1h candy would matter

[livid jasper]

never use candy /baloon lol

is the skilling req always chop and fishing? or rotate?

[pulsar girder]

Really? I used them all the time to push to w6/get skill levels/get to deathnote threshold to unlock vman/get apocalypse stacks on my db etc

What are you saving them for

[livid jasper]

i dont know lol , im people who like saving thing

[stray yacht]

Does anyone know what the best Spice setup Is?

[pulsar girder]

Respectfully: that’s silly imo

[livid jasper]

why?

[exotic swallow]

just wait and u'll have 1k of those

[strange flare]

[pulsar girder]

Zone 1: mallard bunny bunny bunny
Every even zone : snake whale whale whale
Every odd zone after 1: snake bunny bunny bunny

[livid jasper]

what is mean of digit of stimole kill?

1m?

[uneven obsidian]

amount of kills

[strange prism]

[native forge]

1 mil =1,000,000 is 7 digits

[lilac plover]

1-9 kills = 1 digit

[stray yacht]

I don't see a PIN idk why

[uneven obsidian]

mobile ?

[strange flare]

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[exotic swallow]

Better have a bad run, no need to thank me

[strange prism]

I've been waiting for 24k lol

[stray yacht]

Tysm

[cyan sequoia]

ready to get 0 chests?

[tardy shadow]

where do i get the star talent for the 3d printer?

[native forge]

ice cream npc in w3 questline

[strange prism]

only have 5 in atm tho

[cyan sequoia]

I'm going for 5k currently

[strange prism]

6 in now

[night oracle]

What's this?

[vague imp]

hi curious.

Regarding infinite salt
https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/w14zae/infinite_salt_refinery_errors_fixed/

Does that mean we stop upgrading red and green salt at one point?

[cyan sequoia]

1 active (ww today) 2 db's farming bones and rest in justice

[strange prism]

time needed for me to get 6.1k more hours too justice dependent on how many characters are there

[night oracle]

Ohhh I see

[cyan sequoia]

IT has a calculation for that?

[night oracle]

Never stop
After the picture you continue upgrading

[uneven obsidian]

pretty much all that needed to know for salts

[strange prism]

6 in now, have DB farming at stilts, active DK, SB in sanctum and vmans farming wood in w6

[strange prism]

might have to toss SB and vman in

[livid jasper]

is this pict no longer relevant?

[lucid osprey]

its a good start

[cyan sequoia]

[strange prism]

73 hours is a lot better then 116

[lucid osprey]

but it still follows the rule that was posted above

[livid jasper]

since we want alot of red salt for DK skill

[strange prism]

toss everyone in for 31 hours

[worn raptor]

it's the same as picture lmao

[worn raptor]

if you follow this

[cyan sequoia]

but bro I need bones for 400 talent

[worn raptor]

get this levels

[strange prism]

31 hours is 9 characters

[uneven obsidian]

considering we outgrew that a long time ago yes, its been outaded for a long time

[worn raptor]

specific levels pic for refinery is only for lazy and no reading ppl

[strange prism]

think I need to swap to enchant again, want more monument %

[cyan sequoia]

u forget I have 2 db already?

[strange prism]

do you want hours on monuments or not

[cyan sequoia]

I'm still gonna do 1 chest justice with or without 5k

[strange prism]

idk 5-24k is kinda big

[cyan sequoia]

true, I could wait with the multi until I get 5k

[strange prism]

my starting bravery damage feels really low

[cyan sequoia]

my next unlock on ww is the atomic lvls so gonna see if I can get a few upgrades on that for more pens to boxes & atoms to bubbles

[strange prism]

such a nice unlock

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1093957608555171895/1303527764485472267/caption.gif

[worn raptor]

some months more without manually po for max myriad

[cyan sequoia]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1058111308559556778/1173388976669855844/image0.gif