midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[near latch]

Like 50% of the passives seem to suck ass tho

[zenith hare]

its all base stats which gets multiplied

[foggy widget]

oh yea lmao that just makes sense

[thorny zinc]

i have equinox symbols without 200 gstack LMAO

[arctic kindle]

Megafeathers are simple

[thorny zinc]

also did this

[arctic kindle]

Where do i get megafish tho?

[zenith hare]

roo

[thorny zinc]

and this

[zenith hare]

w2 clicker

[night oracle]

W

[thorny zinc]

W

[zenith hare]

wait that was an equinox??

[thorny zinc]

i guess? lmao its easy af

[zenith hare]

so it is

i completely forgot that existed, thats how bad food lust is

[thorny zinc]

real

still better than lab con imo

[zenith hare]

no!

thats just pure wrong

[thorny zinc]

idk i just think its not worth investing in those 2

[zenith hare]

the lab one is a MAJOR breakpoint for early lab

if you dont have doot

aka: 99% of people

[thorny zinc]

i never needed it in early game. havent invested in it because i heard griffy said its trash

[zenith hare]

and griffy is trash

he cant think for shit ab earlier game people

[thorny zinc]

as i said i never needed that in early game

and i didnt had doot

[zenith hare]

and there is a reason why your account has been pretty bad up until recently

[distant parrot]

What armour should i be using early w4 on DK

[zenith hare]

either amarok + warrior helm/dem helm or full dem

[thorny zinc]

thats literally wrong but okay

[zenith hare]

uh huh

[distant parrot]

Have been running that, defense and acc is a problem i wont lie

I switched to Efaunt but had no major changes

[zenith hare]

defence should never be a problem. let alone on a warrior

and acc is solved by doing shite you neglect

[distant parrot]

Such as?

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed

works till late w5

(food solves the surv problem)

warriors tends to not need food tho due to hemoglobin scaling with max hp

[distant parrot]

I've been really going at the w1 clicker and w2, i have w1 almost fully done

i got two mega fish in w2

[zenith hare]

only relying on one bonus will screw you

as most bonuses multiply together

[distant parrot]

Oh i see, well in all honestly its so hard to keep track of everything

[true marlin]

shaquracy bubble

[zenith hare]

dw thats normal

and no. shaq is a terrible investment early

its price is WAYYY too expensive

for how little of a bonus it gives

[thorny zinc]

[distant parrot]

What do you need to level it

[thorny zinc]

red fish

[zenith hare]

bloaches

[true marlin]

bloaches

[zenith hare]

and it scales fast

[thorny zinc]

[zenith hare]

iirc i had mine at level 18 by end of w5

and i was actively trying to push it

as people always kept saying "do shaq"

yes its alright. not worth full focusing tho

[compact pagoda]

this shi is hard

[strange flare]

It’s worth having but it won’t fix your issues alone

[compact pagoda]

make ot easier

[distant parrot]

Making idleon easier ruins the fun of progressing it 😭

[zenith hare]

^

[true marlin]

grats on the bar

[compact pagoda]

shhhhh

yall don't know me

[exotic swallow]

Newborn sweat baby

[distant parrot]

I remember returning to idleon on a new access and seeing the vault upgrades, it helped a lot and made w1 progression a lot easier but thankfully it didn't ruin progression as a whole

[zenith hare]

the clickers however did

[exotic swallow]

bro just started idleon

[zenith hare]

way too high base stat upgrades

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[compact pagoda]

click faster

[thorny zinc]

just wait until you see how slow is hole without any p2w things

[zenith hare]

made getting to w6 from REALLY hard in a month to oh people are accidentally doing it

[compact pagoda]

optional

[exotic swallow]

just watch how slow idleon is without p2w

[distant parrot]

i am not proud of this

but i have honestly payed for stuff 😭

[compact pagoda]

its not that bad

i didn't pay a cent

[zenith hare]

auto loot is the price of the game tbh

[distant parrot]

I bought the auto pick up and egg pack

[compact pagoda]

[zenith hare]

and its not that bad before it

[distant parrot]

Just cuz i had extra money lol

[exotic swallow]

do u still suck_

[compact pagoda]

whale path

[thorny zinc]

i agree its okay f2p too

[compact pagoda]

maybe

[zenith hare]

as long as you actually grind gems via whatever sources, its easy

[compact pagoda]

depends on whose saying

[distant parrot]

wot

[compact pagoda]

[compact pagoda]

buy everything

[distant parrot]

HELL NAH!

[night oracle]

Just got this and I regret not unlocking it sooner

[thorny zinc]

being a whale is the best style of gameplay

[compact pagoda]

fr fr

[distant parrot]

Gem shop helpful tho..

[exotic swallow]

buy p2w and u'll be better than saki in a month or two

[distant parrot]

man i can spend that much on idleon 😭

[thorny zinc]

even less than that

[compact pagoda]

real stuff

[native forge]

😮

[thorny zinc]

shush kashya

[distant parrot]

Servers are up again right?

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[distant parrot]

good, i'm hopping on rn

[compact pagoda]

😔

i see a rise of a sweat

[distant parrot]

gotta get that mining efficency up 🙏

Gotta progress 🙏

[compact pagoda]

its meh

go do it faster

[distant parrot]

in all seriousness i spend like 2-3 hours on the game throughout the whole day

[exotic swallow]

f2p, you gotta sweat harder

sweat harder to get better

[distant parrot]

real.

[compact pagoda]

do i care

[thorny zinc]

db stats go brrr

[compact pagoda]

smh 50k str when

[exotic swallow]

oh god these small numbers

glad I am not like that

[thorny zinc]

working on it. im hourly clicking it for 2-3 days already

[exotic swallow]

even though my numbers are small too

[uncut saddle]

gotta spend like 5 hours a day fixing my fuckass account

[night oracle]

Any believers?

[compact pagoda]

i login once a week lmao

[uncut saddle]

so much to do yet so little

[exotic swallow]

only 11

[compact pagoda]

too tired fr fr

[night oracle]

Only 2k hours

[native forge]

omg true bob ,BANG !

[zenith hare]

no

[night oracle]

I got one pair

😭

[thorny zinc]

time to leave my db here for days to get that 100b kills

[distant parrot]

😭😭

[night oracle]

100b???

[thorny zinc]

equinox

[compact pagoda]

yeah

[primal crescent]

i love the incentive to log on every 20 minutes for optimal trapping!!

[night oracle]

Damn

Just use a cosmic candy

[thorny zinc]

[night oracle]

Do it

[thorny zinc]

i dont have any cosmic

[night oracle]

Dang

I got 7 cosmic

[haughty remnant]

fun fact you get more kills with frogs, check the afk tab and compare

[thorny zinc]

and?

[night oracle]

Also, I should sample marble ores for marbi armor

[thorny zinc]

i need to get 100b on gmushes

[thorny zinc]

[night oracle]

How? Did you spend on w6?

[compact pagoda]

400 cosmics when

[thorny zinc]

yes always on w6

[night oracle]

Nahhh

[compact pagoda]

just whale candy

i know u got enough

[night oracle]

What should I do after I got these onyx?

[night oracle]

I do have enough, but I only buy packs, not just gems

[warm grove]

morning chat

[night oracle]

Hi

[thorny zinc]

hi rei

[warm grove]

one night of ccing and all my liquids have increased by like 8 an hour

[strange flare]

400 tent?

[warm grove]

nope

[strange flare]

what is your cc times at

[warm grove]

around 580k

[strange flare]

not bad

[warm grove]

well well well

[night oracle]

Jfc

[hexed shoal]

I mean alot of ppl alrdy know that. Cuz mob density

[night oracle]

I really need to unlock mastery for sneaking....

[strange flare]

duality of sneaking

(the 1 item auto trashed)

[pulsar girder]

I should maybe try to get someone good enough at mining to get past the grey/green ore room lol

[strange flare]

that's an idea

[primal crescent]

does world 6 just introduce 17 thousand skills??

[strange flare]

3

as does every world

[pulsar girder]

It’s the usual 3 and two of them are shared level across all characters

[full beacon]

@grave spindle yo I experienced the same thing you did, idk why but for some reason online (active char) construction exp is giving the wrong reading compared to offline. try looking at your board from a non-DK character and they should be about the same

[pulsar girder]

5 had sort of a fourth skill cause of the caverns

[strange flare]

caverns is not a skill

[native forge]

LabLicker

[primal crescent]

i guess i just keep seeing so many mechanics that it seems like far too many to be shared between the two worlds i havent seen

[pulsar girder]

It felt like I got to start caverns in the same way i got to start sailing/divinity idk

But yeah not a skill

[hexed cairn]

[exotic swallow]

would

[hexed shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-gif-4781682369701110304

[hexed cairn]

[hexed shoal]

Hu-tao berry cute

[grave spindle]

Ty, such a strange bug

[edgy trail]

For construction do you remove all non build rate cogs and focus on xp cogs?

My build rate dropped by half noooo

It was 120k now it is 66k

[full beacon]

temporary, while your DK's cons lvl shoots up

make sure you target the build spd bubble in alch too, that's part of the meta

[twilit needle]

Guys i just unlocked rift i have, no idea what's going on and a bit of explanation is needed

[edgy trail]

I got 300% now

[pulsar girder]

Walk near the centre portal to see the objective, do the objective to open the portal to the next one. Account wide progression. Every 5 you get a permanent reward check the wiki

[edgy trail]

Its lategame trust i only progressed one i caught up at w5-6

Good ones tok

[twilit needle]

Well i tried getting 500 kills but only came to like 350

[edgy trail]

use es

elemental sorcerer

[strange prism]

do you not farm biggie n doot

[strange flare]

i sure dont

[warm grove]

who?

[strange prism]

weird

[thorny zinc]

i actually do

[warm grove]

strategic, i'm waiting for more bonejoepickles to get more kills so in the meantime lava can nerf the gem drops

[strange flare]

[native forge]

tao

[warm grove]

like that little gremlin?

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/hu-tao-genshin-impact-genshin-impact-characters-gif-26299087

if i unlocked symbols should i still go for 200 gstacks?

[warm grove]

what

[thorny zinc]

i did the 100k laddle

[warm grove]

yeah?

[thorny zinc]

then had some other dreams done after that

and i unlocked symbols

without doing 200 gstacks

[warm grove]

well i'd still do them, just significantly lower priority so do the harder ones later on

[thorny zinc]

okay

[native forge]

80 diffrent killroys is kek ,im stuck on that bigtime

[warm grove]

yeah I only got 4 left and 3 of them can be done pretty easily given some time

[thorny zinc]

time for 150 bosses

[warm grove]

only takes around half an hour

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[warm grove]

back in my day we used to farm 300 bosses every day with slower pickup times

[thorny zinc]

old man

[warm grove]

**rich **old man

[strange prism]

how many pickles

[warm grove]

not as many as you think I have, only 167 rn. waiting for about 200-250

[strange prism]

eesh

[royal schooner]

is it normal to have 3k kills per hour with theese stats ?

[warm grove]

if your survivability is max and so is your accuracy that's all you gotta worry about

[royal schooner]

max survivability asnd 90% hit chance

[warm grove]

hmm alright you are good but definitely always try to have 100% hit chance for multikill if your dmg is high enough

[royal schooner]

ye but idk how to get more wis

i upgraded wis to max

[warm grove]

are you in W4 yet?

[royal schooner]

ye

farmin for w5

too tuff

[warm grove]

did you use the upgrade stones on your gear, on the same character you use the gear on?

[gritty elm]

I got 1m kills for all 3 worlds but why wont the voidman quest work?

[royal schooner]

ye with everything aother then boots

[warm grove]

check the deathnote and go back to it

[royal schooner]

boots got wis on them

i can only use stones on my equipment aother then pickaxe

for wis

[warm grove]

alright then there is a very easy way to get more accuracy. if you craft amarok gear, and say you are pushing on a warrior so you need wisdom, take that gear and hold it on a mage, then upgrade it with W4 stones and you get a ton of substat on it so when put back on your warrior you have plenty of accuracy

[royal schooner]

ik that but im usin upgraded dementia armor rn

only upgraded boots with mage

and i dont have more resources for a new set

[warm grove]

trust me, amarok is better than dementia for pushing due to the insane accuracy you can get from using the stones on it

only the dementia helmet is arguably better

[royal schooner]

fr ?

[warm grove]

yep I ran some tests about this with another guy who is likely going to make a guide about it

because new players pushing to W6 usually need more accuracy, not a little bit more dmg, and amarok has more upgrade slots which works well with really strong upgrade stones

[royal schooner]

ye but dementia has more base wis

[sick lynx]

but purple gear is better than amarok no ? ( dont know the name of this one)

[royal schooner]

i got more wis on my dementia boots then on amarok boots both are upgraded

[warm grove]

yeah, but amarok has more upgrade slots that results in more potential stats

let me make one of each to show you, i'll make a chestpiece for both

[royal schooner]

ik what u mean

but the thing is

base stats of amarok boots are 1+ stat , while dementia are 7+

and dementia has more wis cuz of that after upgrade

[royal schooner]

ye thats the chestplate

[gritty elm]

I did

[warm grove]

yep, before and after W4 stones used on a mage

[royal schooner]

ik

tho dementia boots and leggings are better

[warm grove]

try cloudsaving and then do it again, should work

[royal schooner]

but alot more expensive

ty

[sick lynx]

can u focus wisdom when upgrading a piece of gear ?

[royal schooner]

ye

w4 upgrade stones + using them while on a mage character

[sick lynx]

oh shit didnt knew that

[royal schooner]

cuz they add ur characters main stat to the equipment

[warm grove]

if you use certain stones on a certain character yeah

[sick lynx]

so we shoud always go for WIS on gear for w4w5 push ?

either on amarok or dementia ?

[royal schooner]

until u get enough accuracy

[gritty elm]

Alr

[sick lynx]

im kinda short ona accuracy

[warm grove]

but yeah if you still don't have enough accuracy have you tried cards, clickers, and dungeon stats

[royal schooner]

clickers ?

u mean like the owl and the fishing dude

aigh

owl maxed the fishing dude i didnt know even existed until 3 hours ago

[sick lynx]

fishing dude is annoying to max out

[royal schooner]

ye

[warm grove]

later on the buffs get pretty damn good

[royal schooner]

im doing that rn 😭 a

[royal schooner]

dayumn

[sick lynx]

115% accuracy omg

[sick lynx]

i need that

[warm grove]

yeah gotta get a few fractal fish, takes time though

[royal schooner]

shiny fish give perma boost ?

dayumn thats op

i just got 2 good fish

[warm grove]

also a good tip, don't do more than 1 regular reset at the start, only do megafish resets

[cyan sequoia]

these some mad lads, entering w4 and having maxed owl I'm behind

[warm grove]

yep definitely maxed

[royal schooner]

not maxed

[cyan sequoia]

have u maxed owl yet or just neglecting Rei?

[royal schooner]

i got 7 last feathers :/

[warm grove]

also always spam the shiny fish catching, the one that says 1000% in the ss

[strange prism]

oh geez dont let bean see this

[royal schooner]

need more feathers ngl

too lazy to farm

[strange prism]

dont blame you, its boring

[cyan sequoia]

which one

[royal schooner]

ye

[warm grove]

nah I don't personally know anyone with higher clickers than me besides follkey

[royal schooner]

i just left my tinytask on

[strange prism]

red, he went for like 100 normal resets before looking at mega fish

[royal schooner]

and it got like 5 feathers

[warm grove]

wait fr???

[cyan sequoia]

how many fractals u pushing Rei?

[strange prism]

indeedo

[cyan sequoia]

think red went on a break

[warm grove]

megafish 21 rn so ff 9

[cyan sequoia]

owly?

[strange prism]

might have too look at clickers again after gfood farming

[warm grove]

only

but my owl is at megafeather 29 or 19 fractals

[cyan sequoia]

this dude the owl

[royal schooner]

nice

[strange prism]

hmm

[cyan sequoia]

I need to catch up (impossible)

[warm grove]

in about 20 days i'll be at megafeather 30

[strange prism]

[warm grove]

you can't catch up to me because I micro my clickers

[strange prism]

ew

[cyan sequoia]

yeah I've mostly given up on them, jsut checking when I remember

[royal schooner]

how do u see that

[warm grove]

well fishing is something I check only 3 times a week or so

[strange prism]

idleontoolbox

[royal schooner]

where on toolbox

[warm grove]

!IT

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[strange prism]

I just search it with the search bar

[sleek pollen]

Thats like 3 times more than I do

[strange prism]

owl should be under w1 and roo under w2 tho

[warm grove]

fair enough, fishing one is so slow

[cyan sequoia]

soon

[strange prism]

feesh

[strange prism]

where do you see this 🧍

[cyan sequoia]

yeah ok

[strange prism]

oh lol

[royal schooner]

@warm grove did u tell me to not reset ?

[warm grove]

you need a better multi

[strange prism]

big

[royal schooner]

mb i forgot

[warm grove]

yeah only do 1 fisheroo reset for a long time, focus only on the megafish resets

that's for future proofing your fishing

[royal schooner]

do shiny fishes reset

[strange prism]

I remember seeing some "have this many points by this mega fish" chart somewhere

[warm grove]

I should probably candy click my other bubbles too huh

[cyan sequoia]

I should reset to optimal stats in fish but I dont feel like clicking upgrades for 3-4k clicks

[strange prism]

candy click anvil bubble so you can hourly anvil bubbles

[warm grove]

ngl it's kind of a good idea, longterm

[royal schooner]

what do i buy , i got the anvil , printer and 1 smith

[night oracle]

Got all plants now

[iron jay]

pro gamer

[cyan sequoia]

started atoming big P

[warm grove]

nice

[cyan sequoia]

gotta do some boxes to max gosh box on everyone I think

[strange prism]

what lv you aiming for

[cyan sequoia]

155 div + 1409 big p I think, but we'll see

I only got around 130div

[strange prism]

oof

[cyan sequoia]

I'm not hopelessly far from the skull but not sure, we'll go as we go

[warm grove]

hmm, I just barely have 155 div on one of my guys

[white path]

atoming big p?

[strange prism]

Im pretty sure artcis caps at 15 talent points

[cyan sequoia]

it shouldnt

[sleek pollen]

Go for more

[warm grove]

caps at 20

[strange prism]

mm

[sleek pollen]

Just BEEG Big P and div lvl

[cyan sequoia]

with symbols I'll be up to 396 I think

does arctis round up or down?

[strange prism]

do you have 25 available in symbols?

[warm grove]

Up always

so +14.001 is +15 talents

[strange prism]

lv9k Big P is wild

oh 24k next too it

[cyan sequoia]

so its at +15, symbols go up another 8 and currently at 388 leaving us at 396

so if I could get arctis to +18 and ES to 7xx lv it should be 400

[warm grove]

yep that's me right now

[cyan sequoia]

not sure how much that major skull will take before I reach it, doing afk bones with 2 DBs

[strange prism]

equinox symbol goes up to 25

[cyan sequoia]

yeah but endless doesnt let me to +25

[sleek pollen]

Zamn im only 394

[cyan sequoia]

so we back to farming essence on that

[warm grove]

spoiler, i'm on an ES

[cyan sequoia]

eh 400 is a long term goal anyways, I'll get to that skull at some point

[warm grove]

400 talents is becoming ever closer

soon my ES will be able to infinitely CC

[cyan sequoia]

I have 5 unlocks before the skull

[pulsar girder]

Now that i got my 150 book for vman eclipse what other good library targets should i be looking at?

[strange prism]

I hate that ES gets more talent love

[white path]

es using cc?

[cyan sequoia]

dunno if theres any grimoire calculator

[warm grove]

theres IE that says the most efficient path to the next upgrade

[pulsar girder]

Master class stuff and DK build rate/exp gain stuff and cranium cooking stuff are my assumptions

[sleek pollen]

Just get talent level from DB

[strange prism]

give ya a hint, thousands of charred bones

[sick lynx]

whats the mega fish ?

[warm grove]

only a few 40 days worth of bones

[cyan sequoia]

40 days of atoming big p

[warm grove]

and then a few more

[strange prism]

surely you wouldnt need that many days

[cyan sequoia]

then I can finally grind GT

truly the perfect goal

[warm grove]

mm I don't really recommend grinding GT anymore ngl

way easier class exp sources in the game now, and you could spend that time on CC candy clicking

[strange prism]

did you already do full 100k gfood Joz?

[white path]

or just farm sailing loot

[cyan sequoia]

it yearns for me to press the button

[warm grove]

wait is that big P?

[strange prism]

7100?! geezus

[cyan sequoia]

how u get that much

[strange prism]

GT

[cyan sequoia]

I have 30 ships going at those berries

[warm grove]

oh ok, 7.1k GT ain't that bad

[cyan sequoia]

think I might need to start increasing my ships loot value to get those berries

[strange prism]

mines only 5500 : (

[native forge]

shiny doggo be happy

[white path]

claim often and high loot value

[strange prism]

did you already get the achievement for +1 talent level for a lvl 300 ship?

[cyan sequoia]

ah nah I use that talent that everybody says not to use

I have that yeah

[warm grove]

overflowing loot is awesome

[strange prism]

what?!

bro what am I doing wrong

[warm grove]

put all your dudes on final island, wait for trade for 1 of the 2 resources there, make billions of gold

[cyan sequoia]

what Rei said

[strange prism]

oh.. interesting

[warm grove]

If I keep up at my current rate I should be 100k in 2 days or so

[tawny zodiac]

I've beaten level 200 of the Arena, on 207 atm, but it's going to take a while until buffs run out. Can I cancel arena and keep the 200 buff?

[strange prism]

[native forge]

yeah ,theres no point going further ,if you are already on 201 you can forfeit and have all unlocked

[strange prism]

how often does trade reset?

[warm grove]

every day I believe

[white path]

every 6 hours

[warm grove]

also if you go into IT, go to sailing theres a trade tab

he's right it is every 6 hours

honestly never noticed

[strange prism]

I never do trades

Ive been looking at bubbles lately

[soft girder]

how u got artifact odds?

[cyan sequoia]

no info found

[warm grove]

artifact odds come from a lot of different sources, a lot from hole and also captains

[cyan sequoia]

its only 1161 lvls how bad can it be?

[warm grove]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=artifact
should help

[cyan sequoia]

anyways Im keeping both of my DBs farming bones 24/7 so 48 a day, we'll be there in no time (math, not even once)

[warm grove]

ahh you got 2 of em, you also have every bone multi?

[cyan sequoia]

gambit & arcade + arcade doubler

dont have the hood

[strange prism]

dam double db

[warm grove]

alright so no pristine either then i'd imagine

[cyan sequoia]

the power of 1 dk compels you, and yes I have the pristine too

its in the name innit

[warm grove]

well, we don't know that since you don't got the hood

[cyan sequoia]

I had not spent anything beyond auto loot when it was released, then I spent a lot of time just doing clickers and neglecting everything

[warm grove]

so real

[cyan sequoia]

I just read from some website that 1 BB for fishing and 1 for cooking and uhh thats how that happened, got 2 SB though - very important also according to that other then that I was mostly going blind

I also didnt know that u cant delete characters

[warm grove]

1 bb for fishing and 1 for cooking is insane when we have a 3D printer

[acoustic summit]

what DR do i need to 3d print the rare clams

[warm grove]

you can't print them

[acoustic summit]

I thought you could do any rare drop if your dmg and dr was high enough

like the red frisbee

[warm grove]

only red frisbee because it is technically the base mob drop since it appears first in the loot table

[acoustic summit]

oo

how to max vial then

[warm grove]

that's never gonna happen with the current rates in the game, the only thing you focus using them for is a gold food recipe later in the game

[acoustic summit]

what gold food recipe

[warm grove]

golden cakes

[native forge]

golden cake recipe from demented spiritlord

[acoustic summit]

the only recipe im missing ig lol

[hexed cairn]

cakes?

[thorny zinc]

myyyyyy dudeees whats going on?

[past hedge]

should i enchant my dementia armor for acc or dmg on my bm?

[warm grove]

hey shadow

[thorny zinc]

hi rei

[warm grove]

acc if you need it, also bm sucks so...

[warm grove]

working on those 10k bubbles

[past hedge]

i mean im just getting gear for my characters

[thorny zinc]

damnn

[warm grove]

in that case you can just use stones on said character, should be fine

[past hedge]

alr

since im using dk to push ig ill be fine

[thorny zinc]

hm i dont think i will go for 27 yet

[strange prism]

whats your total rn

[thorny zinc]

will prob move them to conjuror after this level up

[warm grove]

84k

[strange prism]

strength?

[warm grove]

nah I meant total bubble lvl, not sure what total strength is rn

[strange prism]

cant wait for these ribs to be done so I can focus other things

[warm grove]

total strength gotta be above 100k at least now

[strange prism]

100%

[warm grove]

and then when I get the pristine charm for 1.3x strength i'll be balling

[strange prism]

bubbles after beanstalk

[strange prism]

never noticed there was a strength charm

[warm grove]

lvl up gift

this is all of them

oh 1.2x strength not 1.3x

[strange prism]

I uhm.. have all, just never noticed most of the buffs

[warm grove]

wait I do have the str charm, when the hell did I get that?

[white path]

all the +stat% ones are trash

[warm grove]

they aren't separate multis?

[cloud stump]

Is there any reason to keep characters making gray and yellow cogs after you have red and purple filled out in the entire board?

[warm grove]

thats a lava L if so

[strange prism]

id be surprised if it isnt a multi

I dont think id have the amount of str I do rn if it wasnt

[warm grove]

only to place your characters in, since you want 2 dks on the board and nobody else

[white path]

I just remember getting 1 and getting little to nothing

[strange prism]

new next goal, +~20k to str bubble for big overall number

[white path]

found a screenshot, this is 20% str from the pristine charm

[strange prism]

oof

[warm grove]

dang

[strange prism]

must only interact with certain sources of base stat

[thorny zinc]

@warm grove im starting

[warm grove]

also you have a very small number of pens, won't even reach 1/3 where I am with that

[thorny zinc]

i know

[warm grove]

some day

[honest cradle]

well hit 2k construction xp

[thorny zinc]

i wont finish all of them in one go anyway

so i will keep getting more and more

[warm grove]

for shame, fill 40k orders in one sitting

[thorny zinc]

💀

i rather hourly clicking bubbles

[warm grove]

completely fair

you'll have time to catch up in some ways because I will mostly be planning my resamples for the next 2/3 days

maybe even make a sheet that includes everything

[thorny zinc]

my main focus now is hole

need that gambit asap

[full beacon]

what room gambit

I need too

[warm grove]

c14 is gambit

[full beacon]

I'm not doing the exp thing smartly though 🤣 just got like 20-40 in every villager

[honest cradle]

wowo I got a new divinity and my boat speeds just took a huge boost

[thorny zinc]

i just put all in one and push one at a time

[full beacon]

what's your exp/hr, if it shows in the game

[full beacon]

I'll have to check mine later

unless IT has it, lemme see

[thorny zinc]

yeah it has it

[full beacon]

yea definitely less than that, quick napkin math ~= 7.5m/hr

only 130 opals spread though

[thorny zinc]

so more than me

[full beacon]

so that's part of it

[thorny zinc]

as i have samurai

you normally would have more than me

[full beacon]

that's with samurai too 🤣

maybe I'll swap to all in meta then

[hexed cairn]

👀

[pliant bloom]

Have you done sth or it fix itself

[thorny zinc]

OH

[full beacon]

yea I mean it's expected, the endgamer already did the math for all in meta being better

[thorny zinc]

about the bug thing?

[pliant bloom]

yeah cause i cant go onto my friends toolbox

[thorny zinc]

wait what are you talking about

idleon not loading?

[warm grove]

they have to upload their profile to be public

[pliant bloom]

idloeon toolbox

[warm grove]

under data there is this

[pliant bloom]

Yeah we have it

[warm grove]

uploaded recently?

[pliant bloom]

Yes

Today

[warm grove]

and the link isn't broken or something?

[pliant bloom]

it cant be broken

copied for the same thing as you posted

[warm grove]

hmmm

[pliant bloom]

from*

[warm grove]

how does it not work exactly, like what happens

[pliant bloom]

push me into this

[warm grove]

ahhh ok, i've had that happen before too

refresh your cookies, might help by chance

[pliant bloom]

will try

[west breach]

Does someone has a foraging team to progress?

[warm grove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
follow the pets section

[pliant bloom]

oh gawd its worse than earlier XD

earlier i cant go into my friends account, now i cant go on any XD

[warm grove]

you gotta sign in to yours first probably

[pliant bloom]

yeah i signed in

[warm grove]

dang might have to restart the computer at this rate

[pliant bloom]

and even griffy dont work anymore

[full beacon]

incognito window?

[pliant bloom]

nope

[warm grove]

[pliant bloom]

well xd I will try later

[full beacon]

send your friend link

to see if I can see it

[pliant bloom]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=lordkkaroleq
Here you are but i cant see even GriffyBit rn

[full beacon]

not just you then

mine doesn't load up either

[pliant bloom]

well then its not my fault maybe

[warm grove]

nah I think IT is bugging a bit rn, can't see anyone elses either

[full beacon]

I can see mine though, my public one

are you sure his upload was successful

if there's no profile to load then it'll show like it is currently

[pliant bloom]

yeah i dont have my 2nd account too

and its not possible that i load something wrong 😄

[full beacon]

not that you did something wrong, just that if the upload/publish service is down or buggy rn, anyone trying to update it will fail

[pliant bloom]

I will see later then, maybe there are really some problems

[tender fjord]

how is upgrading diamond chef into the >1000 range so good if it caps at 1.3x and im already like 95% there at 1.29?? the math aint mathing

[hexed cairn]

1.3x is rounded up. it doesn't show 1.31/1.32/1.33

[serene orbit]

i have gotten to just before the troll

any advice going in?

[hexed cairn]

just beat him up

[broken nebula]

is it worth having that lab node for 5x liquid cap enabled if my liquid gen is slow already?

this one for reference

[serene orbit]

wtf troll took one hit

are these stats high for end of w4?

[royal schooner]

too high

im close to end of w4 and im nowhere to u

[serene orbit]

welp

[oak mason]

These are almost high enough to instantly get to w6

[royal schooner]

how tf u got that much mg

im even bigger lvl then u

[serene orbit]

i didn't know about upgrade vault til a day or two ago

[royal schooner]

._.

lemme see ur aother characters

plss

[serene orbit]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=thenumeralone

[hexed cairn]

an IT. i will look

[native forge]

class lvl don't play big role ,mostly in levelling your talents though

[native forge]

curiosity killed the cat

[hexed cairn]

[royal schooner]

makes sense why u got soo much dmg

u got like 10x everything i have

[kindred basin]

Prioritize all the upgrades that boost coins for obvious reasons. Some have power of 10 requirements, some are based off of world tasks completed / alchemy levels. There’s a LOT of extra money gained here so read each vault upgrade carefully

[quick estuary]

Generally speaking what ranks should you get your refinery salts to before you ste them to auto refine?

[hexed cairn]

damn owl, roo, and salts are fked

[serene orbit]

yeaaaah, my income increased around 1000x in the past couple of days

i'm swimming in the grey coins now

[kindred basin]

Huge dubs

[oak mason]

Check the pins they explain it better than any of us can

[royal schooner]

should i get to w5 first or get everyone to class changer in w4 ? cuz i only got 2 dudes with 2nd subclass

[kindred basin]

Never a bad idea to start W5 skills early if you can

[serene orbit]

i left the game for a year and owl & roo were released during that time XD

[hexed cairn]

time to get back at it

[serene orbit]

no excuse for salts tho

[kindred basin]

Though spending candies on T4 classes should be done fairly quickly. Just do both, simple as

[serene orbit]

this is what i did

[royal schooner]

i got everyone else in lab

for 2x kills for opening portals thing

[oak mason]

Depends on how long it takes for your other characters to get to their elite classes, rushing to w5 isn’t a bad idea either

[kindred basin]

Take em out bruh kinda disrespectful keeping them trapped there without unlocking their full T4 potential fr

[royal schooner]

im close to w5 tho

2 more maps

[kindred basin]

Can’t you take them out and put them back?

[royal schooner]

ye but i wont get 2x kills then

[native forge]

wow ,now i want to look too

[kindred basin]

You mean you need to use everyone but 1 of your characters to reach that bonus?

Even if that’s the case you can still make it work right

[royal schooner]

everyone but 2

[thorny zinc]

are we doing reviews?

[kindred basin]

So swap them out as needed

[royal schooner]

ye but not everyones the same lab lvl

[native forge]

if you got elite classes ,max the purple tube and put bubo on left hand side for bigger lines lul

[royal schooner]

i can hardly reach that bonus

[kindred basin]

See if it’s possible for each character then, put everyone besides the guy you need upgraded and see which ones can reach the bonus. Then candy to the T4 fella

[royal schooner]

spent all candies

damn

[kindred basin]

That’s alarming 👀

[royal schooner]

fr

tried gettin to w5

[kindred basin]

There’s tons from quests and such my guy. Have you gone back through and done those

[royal schooner]

ran out

did hella quests on my dk not on aothers

imma just o them after i reach w5 ngl

[kindred basin]

That’s the easiest way to get tons

[royal schooner]

ye

[kindred basin]

You’ve got a few avenues of proceeding forward now. Do quests for candy, use candy to push / get T4s, whatever you want. Starting W5 skills early is nice

[royal schooner]

aight ty

[kindred basin]

And when you don’t need to spend candies, save them! Idk how you distributed the ones you had but I feel like it’s kind of hard to run out. I had hundreds stored up on my previous acc lol

[royal schooner]

i had like 100 hours total in candies

and used them all for portals in w4

thought i had enough for w5

[kindred basin]

100 hours total is like nothing. They drop from journeyman gift, level up gift, daily basketball, arcade, quests, 30+ hour afk talent, be mindful of all sources and max gains to save them for when you need them

[royal schooner]

aight imma do that , ty

[kindred basin]

And don’t rush through W5… let the afk hours do their thing, it would take exponentially more candies

[royal schooner]

ye ik

since rn portals take like 250k kills 😭

[strange prism]

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/jotaro-jotaro-kujo-kujo-jotaro-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-jjba-gif-6117691605774655924

[strange prism]

early shaman/bubo, its better to not have this active

[past hedge]

how many stamps and bubles should i have lvl by the end of w4?

[thorny zinc]

all of them maxed

[past hedge]

im cooked

[thorny zinc]

i would say focus bubbles after you get to w6

[past hedge]

oh yeah?

i got like 700 bubbles lvl and i thought it would be a bit low for w5

[thorny zinc]

without a good printer you cant do bubbles

[past hedge]

makes sense

[thorny zinc]

it is low but its normal as you rush

[past hedge]

i gotta unlock royal sampler

[thorny zinc]

100%

[serene orbit]

is it better to use mman or an elite class for fighting sampling?

[thorny zinc]

bm until vman

you can use mman too

but vman will be a lot better

this is ww

[strange prism]

~Anythings better then nothing~

[thorny zinc]

and this is vman

[serene orbit]

i wan

[thorny zinc]

arctis shut up

[white lintel]

Mines like so much better tho

[primal crescent]

does anything boost sigil rates

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-gif-17291530843075000352

[thorny zinc]

summoning, turtle vial

[white lintel]

You could never reach this

[thorny zinc]

💀

[primal crescent]

ah, things i do not have access to

[thorny zinc]

noob?

[primal crescent]

mid w4

[thorny zinc]

im joking dw

you are prob doing good

[primal crescent]

i mean it feels like it lmao

im getting decision paralyzed constantly atm

[native forge]

it happens alot to me when i want to set on completing something

[thorny zinc]

only noobs here i see

be like rei

[primal crescent]

was trying to rush w4 but im falling behind on defense/accuracy

[thorny zinc]

[primal crescent]

so im trying to grind mats for armor upgrades while vaguely going for vman i guess?

[native forge]

@thorny zinc how to get acc,what is vault

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

[warm grove]

billions must plan out what they will do for the next month to make the most progression

[primal crescent]

hey man vaults expensive

[thorny zinc]

exactly

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-cat-explosion-gif-17905284344545073180

[primal crescent]

i only have like 38 void coins and the boost seems comparatively tiny

[native forge]

A wild 117% appeared

[thorny zinc]

when 10k blobulyte kashya?

[native forge]

Starblob ;3

[warm grove]

here is a good list of things to do that will take a long time

[thorny zinc]

this guy is crazy

[plain heath]

at what totem is bubo lv 20 required and i cant just boulder through it (for wave 50+)

[native forge]

plunderous kills is bonkers

[primal crescent]

oh yeah are there any good worship strategy guides

[native forge]

atleast month of active sb jail

[warm grove]

only 50 days

[white lintel]

I’ve been planning for my reprint for almost a month, and probably have several weeks to go until I’m ready

[thorny zinc]

you gave me an idea to become unstoppable

[warm grove]

over the next 3 days ima plan out and hopefully enact my great resample

[warm grove]

is it to not neglect?

[thorny zinc]

i never neglect

[warm grove]

except for that one time and that one other time

[vital verge]

FINALLY

[thorny zinc]

NEVER

[plain heath]

resample 😔

[white lintel]

What’s your highest con lvl

[warm grove]

1140 or around there rn

[vital verge]

bruh

[plain heath]

.
is it even required to get wave 50+ on first 6 totems

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/nyan-nya-anime-nyan-cat-girl-maid-anime-cat-girl-gif-21695921

[native forge]

isn't it cute

[warm grove]

you mean poisonic?

[thorny zinc]

no kill him fast

[plain heath]

yea the bubo tower

[warm grove]

also no I think first 6 totems can be done with boulder up to wave 50

[thorny zinc]

lava now:

[primal crescent]

billions must use the refinery effectively

[shadow lark]

yippie

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/eren-eren-yeager-freedom-sky-anime-gif-27648718

[warm grove]

arctis is gonna say my construction lvl is bad because I haven't played long enough

[thorny zinc]

ofc

[past sage]

What if green stack

[thorny zinc]

10m stack of diff items in chest storage

[native forge]

i take a guess you played longer than me

[white lintel]

Honestly, I’d stop on cogs and just maintain an acceptable board, once your lvl gets higher then you can start really grinding, otherwise your time will be mostly wasted

[warm grove]

dang, so no good board? how will I get on the cogs leaderboard

[native forge]

hmm, from my pov ,would it be better for me to prioritise land plots or saving for zen cogs

[white lintel]

If you want you can do a good board

[old cargo]

How ?

[warm grove]

get 4 zens first, then some plots

[old cargo]

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-a-wall-gif-9702424950693960694

[native forge]

almost 500 b rate without any zens

[old cargo]

Basically

[white lintel]

That’s not related to what I recommended, I’m quite confused now

[warm grove]

the more the better

[native forge]

somewhat related to acceptable board

[old cargo]

There have any thread or even sheet I can refer for end game ?

[thorny zinc]

also try full borger and above 3 tars and 1 forger

[warm grove]

yeah just ask us, we are end game

[white lintel]

How does gem shop affect your cog clicking?

[warm grove]

it does with cog exp

[native forge]

the white cog giving enormous xp ?

[thorny zinc]

end of tutorial yes

[warm grove]

just not directly

[old cargo]

I have this for Lullaby

[white lintel]

Yea but you also brought up land plots

[warm grove]

might wanna replace second borger with miasma

[native forge]

yeah ,i feel spending gems there would be faster progress overall xD

[old cargo]

Dude your photo profil is 100% not creepy at all

[white lintel]

I mean, yea

[warm grove]

thanks, my pear is amazing

[white lintel]

Still doesn’t change my take that he should wait to hard push cogs until he has a higher con lvl

[warm grove]

ill keep on candying

[native forge]

i heard somewhere that it's good to do them once every 300-400 con levels if you don't rly mind

[white lintel]

Yep that sounds good

[warm grove]

every 20 levels take it or leave it

[strange prism]

what levels a good level to cog if not ~1100

[native forge]

or every 100 if you're lou

[mossy anvil]

why are u fish

[white lintel]

Check board judger

[warm grove]

you know

[mossy anvil]

i dont

[warm grove]

uhhh, I just am

[strange prism]

but it just shows mid-max your cog potential, what do you personally think is a good time

[white lintel]

I am curious of the story too

[warm grove]

alright fine but it has nothing to do with idleon

[native forge]

well, if you do them now ,and get some levels ,the one you havin now aren't minmaxed anymore xd

[old cargo]

I cant only way its this , but its worst but thx for the suggestion anyway

[mossy anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-meeting2-hmm-meeting-hmm-pepe-pepe-meeting-gif-18064240235739253690

[warm grove]

they call me the fish because I was playing Terraria and got like 800 angler quests

[mossy anvil]

holy

[white lintel]

It shows you what the minimum effort cogs look like, acceptable cogs look like, good cogs look like, and great cogs look like

[warm grove]

yeah took a while ngl

[mossy anvil]

thats insane number

[old cargo]

This is not a mob in Terraria ? its been like 7 years I didnt lauch the game

[mossy anvil]

fishing for crates is ok but for angler u need to change biomes constantly lol

[warm grove]

a fish or the pear?

[strange prism]

Ive been cog clicking while gfood farming so I have something to do, but my DKs are only lv ~1200

[old cargo]

Pear

[warm grove]

nah that's just some random image I took a liking to

[strange prism]

whoops didnt mean to reply to that

[old cargo]

[warm grove]

your cogs look pretty good overall

[mossy anvil]

nice cog

[old cargo]

HOLY

[strange prism]

so youre just saying dont aim for super high %s but instead go for decent ones till higher level con

[white lintel]

Good cogs

[primal crescent]

how important is grinding lab

[thorny zinc]

[white lintel]

I’m saying for fish since he wants to do 100k cog clicks, to save that hard push until later so that he reaps the reward more

[shadow lark]

i dont wanna do achievements 😭

[white path]

my dk is level 1952

[native forge]

that looks above average

[white lintel]

John…

[warm grove]

well that's a temporary goal to be honest, Lou has tasked me with getting on the cogging leaderboard essentially

[strange prism]

that board took a lot

[old cargo]

Do you have any source of your line up ? Because I cant hit (Blooming axe is max)

[strange prism]

its hard to balance, you need higher levels for better cogs, but you need better cogs for more levels

[white lintel]

Are you trying to farm the spice or just get 1

[warm grove]

where borger?

[shadow lark]

you just need a lineup that gets you a single spice at your point

doesnt matter if lullaby isnt producing during that

[white lintel]

You mean forager?

[old cargo]

1 I dont think you have any spice you can upgrade or gem idk

Noted

[warm grove]

well both yeah but borger for the fight power

[old cargo]

[white lintel]

The w6 ones which are easier to just get lab 2100

[shadow lark]

mine isnt even producing

[old cargo]

Oh ok

This is worst than poe

[old cargo]

(poe is the hardest ARPG you could find for reference)

[warm grove]

who needs fighting pets? simply lock in

[white lintel]

Like I said, pins

[native forge]

bloming axe W

[warm grove]

it worked at blooming axe 5 ngl

[old cargo]

Ah yes

[warm grove]

still only lvl 7 actually

[white lintel]

Look up like 2 messages from that I sent what you need from pins

[old cargo]

Sorry to be blind thanks again

[native forge]

[old cargo]

[warm grove]

Arctis when are you gonna catch up?

[white path]

ur doing all the tedious grinds

[warm grove]

literally yes

PO, cogs, breeding, gaming

[native forge]

p.o oof

[white lintel]

Gaming isn’t too bad

[warm grove]

wait Kashya you haven't seen my PO orders?

[native forge]

yeah, atleast you can spend on BELL

[native forge]

i dont need to ,im at 3k and that's

wish the colo tickets were less rare xD

[white lintel]

I’m pushing to get the extra 10T purple gaming slots

[warm grove]

400k soon

[thorny zinc]

please get some help

[native forge]

duh, u got prints for them or what 😄

[warm grove]

they only come as a reward to the last shipper which is W4 stuff so its hard, also it's like 0.18% chance

[white lintel]

When I grind more eggs

[white path]

it used to be a good way before it was nerfed

[warm grove]

although I sometimes go through more than 50m resources in an hour so I gotta go collect more

[native forge]

oh ,would explain why i would do my "daily ones ,to checking them once and rarely even seeing one

[warm grove]

yeah nobody ever does the last shipper because its a ripoff of good resources like pearlers

[native forge]

i go sleep, not gonna torture myself with w5 ,w6 td's

[warm grove]

gn, don't let the neglect bugs bite

[white path]

[white lintel]

Hey fish when all 220 TDs?

[native forge]

soon im at podium for catching ^.^

[warm grove]

should I add that to the list

[thorny zinc]

you are crazy too

[thorny zinc]

aslo rei are you playing on steam?

[warm grove]

yep

[thorny zinc]

when do i add you?

[warm grove]

whenever you want

[thorny zinc]

gib friend code

[warm grove]

alr

[thorny zinc]

aod i see you

[serene orbit]

can i burn my extra equinox mirrors?

[thorny zinc]

gstack them

im not joking lmao

[serene orbit]

i know

[thorny zinc]

[mossy anvil]

[thorny zinc]

@white lintel when meals become very hard to level up and you just need to wait for nmlb? 90 or 100?

[white lintel]

107

[thorny zinc]

fuck

[warm grove]

you need more cook speed from farming, I got to 100 with that

[thorny zinc]

oh right farming

[warm grove]

arctis I don't got minceraft or rose collectable what should I enhance to help the hole grind?

also

[white lintel]

Collectible find chance

[warm grove]

yeah but i've been told verdant thorns isn't a great source and that rupie digits are better

trying to figure out the method right now

Scoli is typing

[vivid kite]

I don't have a DR calculator, but I did just publish a section that shows where all the sources are

[warm grove]

oh new autoreview update?

[vivid kite]

Yarp. About once a week to the PROD site, nearly every day to the BETA site 😛

[gritty elm]

How do i make it so i dont accidentaly rank up my forge so i dont get softlocked from making salt

[stray minnow]

Hey all, just built the 3d printer and it says to use the new star talent, but I don't seem to have it?

[vivid kite]

Turn on auto-refine. Even if you hit the maximum amount of salt from a long AFK, they will refine without rank up

[native forge]

complete the ice cream npc questline in w3 town to get the book

[stray minnow]

Ahh ok, haven't done that yet, thank you!

[warm grove]

forgot these had a cap to them

[white path]

its the same with statues

[warm grove]

yeah all the uncategorized items must have a cap of 999,999

[white lintel]

Well he’s on LB for DR what did you expect

[thorny zinc]

nah i thought he has 100 without packs

[white lintel]

Why did my disc send me so far into the past

[thorny zinc]

but he has them

[strange prism]

id more question how he hasnt gotten a pack with DR yet

[warm grove]

100 is probably impossible for no dr pack

[white lintel]

He has it

[warm grove]

well if you had mallay but no dr pack, maybe you could scrape by

[strange prism]

Johns at like ~84 without packs

[warm grove]

well think about it, someone has 140+dr with packs, so just take 1 away

[vital verge]

how long would it take to get to 20k?

18.62x DR and 1 in 40 crystal chance

[full stump]

whats the next class after the maestro

[warm grove]

that's not over 40 dr gone from island explorer

[strange prism]

WITH packs, which are multis and multi of them

not to mention the p2w cosmetics

[warm grove]

forgot about these ngl

otherwise it'd probably be possible

[strange prism]

oh the keychains whoops

meh still small lol

[warm grove]

dang you got less dr than me even with the robe

minmax for the win

[pulsar girder]

nice, got the 100% offer

[strange prism]

what happens when you sit in sanctums for hours clicking spawn

about as good as it gets for now

[true hamlet]

Sad