midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[random pollen]

yes

[mossy anvil]

for 110k u need only 5,5m gold bars so not that bad

[full beacon]

1m when

[warm grove]

ngl that's what i'm going for, either that or T11 for statues in autoreview

[random pollen]

granny was dead when 1m dream was a thing

[warm grove]

whichever comes first I guess

[zenith hare]

people gstack it

as long as you craft thru inv it's pretty fast

[warm grove]

hey meme

[zenith hare]

craft from storage hard caps at 100 per tick. craft from inv has no cap

[thorny zinc]

hi bean how are you

[zenith hare]

existing

[random pollen]

buddy. the crafting caps out at 255 additional crafts per tick. that's a cap in itself, it takes FOREVER to get to thousands or millions per tick

[thorny zinc]

good enough

[zenith hare]

it doesnt

unless me crafting 10k every few seconds has been a bug for over 2 years anyways

[warm grove]

it keeps crafting more every time, it adds up quick enough for crafting things to 10m

[zenith hare]

it slowly ramps up

it starts slow, gets REALLY fast

[warm grove]

I made 19m peanuts earlier today

[random pollen]

i sat here for no shit hours watching the crafting tick counter add x*(255) to the produced result per tick. like, there's no CAP per tick, but the RATE is capped

[zenith hare]

with the craft from storage button?

that one has a hard cap

if you hold all mats in inv, it's far faster

[random pollen]

no from inventory. like it will drain the inventory and need to reset the "buildup" with a 255 "crafting" per tick. so you'll build up 255 crafts per tick for a total of millions eventually but it's still slow when ur crafting greenstacks

[zenith hare]

oh that's only if you can't hold shite

[warm grove]

ah just have big enough carry caps to hold millions of items per slot

[zenith hare]

ruck sack + starsigns + tab 5 bags + mason stamp

[warm grove]

like this isn't even that much, but it's plenty for crafting

[random pollen]

i can't hold shite cuz my stamps are gated by gildeds 😭 im working on it lmao but yeah it's a thing i noticed

also my TD is utter shite

[warm grove]

no rucksack is rough

[random pollen]

vman just hit 525 and got all the god bags

so got a wave of stamps just now but it was a Thing i noticed because it meant refilling every 5-6 minutes and not getting to generate the juicy millions per tick

def not worth 10m cold bullets yet but the first few easy stacks were ok

[warm grove]

10m cold bullets is a rather hard gstack

[random pollen]

i'm pretty fucking hardgated on my equinox by the dungeon dreams so i'm pretty casual about the 200 gstack dream

[warm grove]

oh the 200 gstacks are relatively simple if you focus on the right stuff, you following autoreview?

[random pollen]

at about 140 atm

yep i have all quests ready, the mining ones are passively going while the rest could be done with candy when i eventually care

[warm grove]

fair

[random pollen]

the actual mat drops are kept at 10m when i remember, that's what bubo is for when i oopsie

[warm grove]

bubo? you farming mob mats with bubo?

[random pollen]

only as a passive greenstack low prio. there's no real good slot for bubo printing in my setup as they're eclipsed by ES and vman for skilling/materials respectively

so they're the frequent re-print for random shit character

[warm grove]

hmm that's strange, you shouldn't have enough slots to get all logs without that bubo though

[random pollen]

i have 2 ES that get oaks and fill out all the logs

[warm grove]

what kind of print setup are you rocking? I do overlap on my wizards so I can get 6 different hourly bubbles

although you probably aren't there yet so i'd get it

[random pollen]

i usually do double oak but oak/toilet for cranium is a thing i do too

but yeah it's usually oak/birch/toilet/ and some other one to filler

[warm grove]

hmm, interesting

[true hamlet]

10/10 slots...

[random pollen]

it depends cuz atoms are something i want but dont need to focus, so they'll go into the collider or gods or bubbles on average

[warm grove]

I got the same, resampling is too much a pain to have to swap it often

[random pollen]

well i also have whale items so sampling also means dragging the ~200% afk rate items around too

[warm grove]

gear swapping is the worst part usually

[random pollen]

so it usually means focusing the atoms and just making sure the rest are hourly then forgetting it

[true hamlet]

It's already hell without pack items lmao

Can't imagine spending money amd having to swap like 10 pieces of gear

[severe steppe]

any way to upgrade this past red plates?

[random pollen]

fuck 10 it's like 4 for me which is annoying

[random pollen]

yes.

[true hamlet]

Yeah, +40 from causticolumn, 20 from db, 20 from jade emporium

[severe steppe]

is it far in db upgrade tree?

[true hamlet]

Nah

[severe steppe]

and where in the emporium?

i got like 100bil jade can i almost buy it?

[true hamlet]

10 early on, 10 later on

Idk, you'd have to check wiki

[craggy oxide]

the early one, I think, but prolly not the late one

[severe steppe]

ok ty

[meager kayak]

i have a lvl 94 squire and i cant beat the things after the snowflakes in world 3 am i cooked?

[hybrid glen]

Meh kinda

With vault acces that's kinda bad

[honest cradle]

make amarok, look at vault look at bubbles

'Look at stamps you will be fine

[hybrid glen]

Bubbles won't make much difference if you don't have a good 3D printer to level them up

[mellow jetty]

How long are people stuck in a world for? I'm currently not stuck but miss a lot. Stamps cost a lot of mats and bubbles as well. 3d printer helps but it's quite slow haha.

[hybrid glen]

Stuck in what world?

"Stuck" i guess

[random pollen]

depends. W6 time should be about 6-8 weeks for a total newbie with autoloot

"stuck" might mean "i might need to go to bed"

[hybrid glen]

Lol true

Events make New players overwhelmed and incentivate them to spend candy and Rush worlds

[river spruce]

As someone who just hit world 6 and hasnt even started it yet. I can confirm I am super overwhelmed. Im just doing random shit at this point.

Brb shower and food

[mint furnace]

this is how it works :)
the vault makes people not understand the mechanics as well

[mossy anvil]

hi timmy

[strange prism]

w6 is just like any other world

[hybrid glen]

Vault is just something that you upgrade as a New player and watch your stats go up at random

[warm grove]

except you gotta do 90% more stuff than you've ever done before

anyways check out this sick multi in roo

[honest cradle]

stuck step sis?

[red compass]

fk roo

[mint furnace]

hi

[hybrid glen]

Dam

[strange prism]

really? you just push the map.. only difference really is the kill requirements

[honest cradle]

w6 is actually literally different

[hybrid glen]

98% of The game progression is done in w6

[honest cradle]

Spirit locks

[warm grove]

when was the last time you did anything to do with mobs in W6 besides crystal farming?

[strange prism]

a month ago when I hit samurais

[warm grove]

I feel like W6 is 3% fighting and 97% everything else

[strange prism]

well theres 719 ES farming ive been doing

[hybrid glen]

@red compass what bro

[red compass]

?

[mint furnace]

i just got land ranks lol, understand this

[red compass]

why ping

[warm grove]

farming is the most thing ever

[hybrid glen]

I saw something rather interesting for a second

[warm grove]

I used to check it every day and now I gotta sit there and watch crops grow in seconds or it won't progress

[pulsar girder]

hm i have like 150 coliseum tickets maybe it'd get me to the Pretzel this week before shop rotates if i spam w4 arena a bit...

[honest cradle]

lmao what an aesthetic

[strange prism]

have too or choose to

[honest cradle]

doot folower with clan name "rich"

[warm grove]

have to at this point ngl

chose to when I started 3 days ago

[strange prism]

dont have to do anything

[warm grove]

i MUST progress

[strange prism]

if it takes that long to get the next crop, you should be turning in and doing night market upgrades

you cant brute force max crops

[mint furnace]

guys help I just did something useful in genchat what do I do that's not allowed

[warm grove]

nah it don't take that long, but the OGs cap and I just can't wait on them forever

[floral thorn]

Any suggestions on what pet i should be focusing to progress fast in the lands?

[river spruce]

I understand the mechanics its just theres so much to do i feel like im going crazy and i cant focus on one thing at a time

[strange prism]

w1 nut, w2 snail, w3 bop box

[honest cradle]

sand giant, snelbie, grublin

to name a few

[pulsar girder]

would just keep slamming to progress through pets and when it works out to clear new ones then go for it, its kind of two early to be thinking about making a specific team imo. see: their suggestions being stuff you don't have unlocked lol

also you unlock new team slots by reaching milestones in the Arena if you haven't tried that. i missed that for a bit

[floral thorn]

So the main goal is to unlock more pets?

[pulsar girder]

yeah the endgame comp includes monocle guy afaik and the unlock chance has an upgrade that's based on how many pets you unlocked in the previous world

so unlocking w1 stuff will help you unlock w2 later

[strange prism]

theres a few things that increase odds of unlocking the next pet

[native trail]

meaning the chances of a crop to evo to next new crop?

Is that a yes orrr

[pine gale]

Yes

[native trail]

okayy

[mossy anvil]

Yes

[fossil kayak]

Kinda

[mossy anvil]

When u click crop info u see evo chance

[native trail]

o ye that’s the one then

[ruby tulip]

i just hit w4 can anyone tell me why do my players keep reset in the lab o,o?

[pulsar girder]

did you change your bubo's talents off of the lab extendy one

oh wait just hit w4

uhh they're only active in the lab as long as you leave'em in there. is it that

[lethal girder]

how can I place down shrines?

[ruby tulip]

oh i get it now ty

[pulsar girder]

star talent active button

[pulsar girder]

its a huge loss to stick'em in there but the rewards are so busted that its worth it basically immediately basically forever. eventually you get ways to have'em out in the world with lab still active but not til w5

but like goal is to get to the "2x kill count for portals/death note" node and push w5 imo

slam everyone in there except one person to reach that asap

damn this 5000 skull rift is gonna take forever

[mossy anvil]

Those are easy ones, spread skull is the worst

[strange prism]

gfood farming sucks but at least you get these while doing it

[mossy anvil]

Why do u farm there

[pulsar girder]

yeah i did one of those earlier this morning and it was tedious

[strange prism]

[royal pier]

How is this 34 double ulti cogs?

Equinox Dream 16 never changes when I add ulti double cogs.

[mossy anvil]

Check boxes or neyptunes

[full beacon]

cloud save tried already?

[mossy anvil]

There is few more ahead

[royal pier]

Yeah. Can try again

[strange prism]

you cant active afk eyes and boxes is essentually the same map

[royal pier]

Yeah I tried that

[full beacon]

fk

[pulsar girder]

yeah haha i looked at the list. i'm not expecting to be able to go all the way with my power level rn but whatever i can get is nice! i also just unlocked the bubble that gives shiny chance based on rift prog so it feels like the right time

[full beacon]

can you go to a new char to farm another one

[mint furnace]

rift really gud :)

[mint furnace]

what?

[royal pier]

OMG tried cloudsave again and g2g

5th time's the charm I guess

[mossy anvil]

So u saying its best spot for w3 gold

[full beacon]

for coggers desync I guess

[royal pier]

Grrrr need quest for Luckier Lad and it didn't happen

[sour sail]

Im now in w6, im gonna get to last map then back track ig?

[mint furnace]

Cog de syncing is weird

[full beacon]

if you rushed hard, you don't even need to go 2 maps deep. w6 is rough

just go back now

[mint furnace]

maybe not good idea yeah

[sour sail]

I didn't rush hard, i didn't even make it to w6 until i played for a few months lol

[full beacon]

well if you can clear maps in a couple hours then sure

otherwise the point of getting 6 is to unlock farm/sumon which you did already

[strange prism]

you need ~40-100m/hr to "push" w6, anything else is a slow crawl

[mint furnace]

Yeah I'm stuck on the cloud ceramics lock

[sour sail]

Well i could clear maps in a couple hours/days, well now after gastoise gave me so many pets i dont really need to worry about it to much ig

[full beacon]

plenty of stuff to do to catch up, even if you did push for the sake of pushing, you prob can't use that stuff you unlock anyways

[sour sail]

Well actually i need to worry about acc

[strange prism]

make sure to unlock all anvil tabs

[full beacon]

just got to leek but that's like not even the main stuff I gotta work on still xD

[sour sail]

Im just back tracking like just leveling up most of my skills, rn im also tryna get the shiny penguin critter for the void scythe thingy

[hasty phoenix]

Something isnt making sense this toon has the same exact range without 2 chips even tho the range goes from 498 to 542 why can't I get it to connect to both?

[sour sail]

How many is their?

[mint furnace]

move it a bit

[strange prism]

6

[true hamlet]

Because, linewidth and connection range is different?

[full beacon]

^

[strange prism]

^

[hasty phoenix]

I did, been trying to pixel by pixel

[mossy anvil]

Line width its different thing that lab con range

[sour sail]

Its gonna take awhile lol,

[true hamlet]

Reading is hard

[hasty phoenix]

What's the diference?

[mint furnace]

yeah, only way is more con range

[honest cradle]

there isnt 4? thats gotta be a troll

[true hamlet]

One is connection to nodes, one is connection to players

[full beacon]

only lvl 100 borger will let both be the same

[true hamlet]

5 and 6 are easy, 4 might be a little tough early on

[mossy anvil]

Bruh

[hasty phoenix]

Which one is line width?

[full beacon]

[sour sail]

What ores does the map after void have?

[mossy anvil]

Players

[hasty phoenix]

Damn 😦

[full beacon]

you can't tell me you don't want borger to do something

[sour sail]

Ok

[honest cradle]

I ran out of sand

I need to make combat prints

[mossy anvil]

Tbh its w/e coz i clicked it only few times

[sour sail]

Also where is the penguin critter at?

[full beacon]

@honest cradle how many hours did box trap take you, feel like slow af for me

statues

[true hamlet]

Moustache I think

[full beacon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Trapping#Critters

also first pin

[honest cradle]

I didnt do it straight, but it took like 3 days

[mossy anvil]

Candy them bro, dont suffer

Candy entire w3 statues

[strange prism]

candy w3 goated

[full beacon]

@strange prism don't give me dead, I'm trying to teach a man to fish

[honest cradle]

Just do it

Get that gfood while you get em

[full beacon]

I never think about candy lol

even forge cards I'm just doing passively over time

[sour sail]

K ty

[full beacon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[strange prism]

forge cards are painful

[full beacon]

ain't too bad where I'm at

every 4-6 hour claim on my sb is giving me like 150

[strange prism]

I need to claim ~3k 10m stacks

[full beacon]

just grinding for kruk keys

that's your fault for ore bagging everyone

[sour sail]

How do yall have like 1t damage? Like what buffs are their that give you so much damage?

[indigo stratus]

Oh, @strange prism I finally made it, another 230 bones used today

[strange prism]

Im not jumping character to character just to upgrade n do stuff, ofc I bagged everyone

[full beacon]

not being sarcastic, just playing the game

almost every activity gives buffs, don't neglect anyhthing

[strange prism]

alch is your biggest buff to damage

[strange prism]

Big

[honest cradle]

I dont even think candy would be as fast for me as active es

[sour sail]

What bubbles?

[strange prism]

[full beacon]

the ones that say dmg and mainstat lol

[indigo stratus]

Talents help, too. Getting to 1t shouldn't be that bad

[sour sail]

I know your right, but my mind just cant fathom how quickly thatll be possible

[strange prism]

sorry but im not listing 100 bubbles rn, just check for stats/damage/bubbles that buff other bubbles n stats for x amount of slab items

[indigo stratus]

What would you in?

[full beacon]

keep your weapon semi up to date too

[sour sail]

Well im Literally trying to get shiny penguins for the void scythe

[strange prism]

Weapons

[silk sedge]

for lab, anything will make mainframe all available?

[indigo stratus]

As in, having them always lit? Or being able to light the further ones?

[strange prism]

down to the last hat

[sour sail]

Ok not all the bubbles, like 5 then?

[strange prism]

theres 11 in the first cauldron alone

[sour sail]

[indigo stratus]

This one isnt bad either

[pulsar girder]

lol i still haven't updated mine since like w3

[strange prism]

while generally the orange is warrior, green is archer and purple is mage, eventually they all buff every character

[pulsar girder]

my weapons i mean

[sour sail]

Should i farm it after i get to last map of w6 or now?

[indigo stratus]

You can print those on your vman during speedrun w/ multikill talent up

[strange prism]

you should constantly be pushing alchemy

if/when possible

[indigo stratus]

With 6x prints, you should be able to level it after few hourly clicks, assuming your print wont be great

[sour sail]

Oh shit i forgot vman/maestro existed, i need to get it fast dont i?

[indigo stratus]

Yeah, get his printer w/ drop mats for bubbles

[full beacon]

vman the shit

[sour sail]

What do i need for vman?

[pulsar girder]

https://idleon.guide/journeyman-maestro/

[plain heath]

what pet do i focus on unlocking next (and also is there any team i can make with my current pets, 4 slots)

[pulsar girder]

how many pet slots do you have on a team

#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message infographic here with a 4p team

[plain heath]

4 slots

holy unformatted

[plain heath]

this part?

[pulsar girder]

yeah

[plain heath]

it specifies "for crypt" but what abt past it?

since thats the 11th or smth right?

[pulsar girder]

idk i'm only on 11 myself lol

but i think you go with the monocle guys and the sandy pots

as a backline for a 5p team or something because they go infinite scaling. and tanks/healing in front?

[plain heath]

o lmao

[mint furnace]

territroy

[silk sedge]

my laboratory suddenly all lighted up even without divinity link, anyone know about this?

[indigo stratus]

Did you get doot?

[silk sedge]

nope3

[pine gale]

Divi goat man?

[indigo stratus]

Might just be visual bug, unless they're all linked to arctis, in the lab, or you got pocket divinity on arctis

[pine gale]

Whatever it is. its probably intended. Like how I didnt know ES gave talent levels for the longest time-

[silk sedge]

oh pocket divinity

[pine gale]

I trust spaghetti code

[silk sedge]

found it, pocket divinity. thanks for info.

[indigo stratus]

I prefer linking to arctis and having pocket on omni/harriep. Can swap omni out for nobi while active pushing, then back to omni before claiming afk

Arctis basically always needs to be linked, though. And pocket you can swap out whenever

[pine gale]

I wanna clarify because I’m confused and don’t read.
Pocket divi is the one from hole right?

[craggy oxide]

yes

conjurer, green circles

[pine gale]

Thanks

[craggy oxide]

I'm given to understand that you can link two pocket divinities eventually, though I've yet to get that myself.

[pine gale]

You can

[craggy oxide]

this. I'm stealing this.

just kept it locked on Omni for now but this makes more sense.

[indigo stratus]

You have to level one of the blue to be able to enhance pocket divinity

Forget which one

[indigo stratus]

Yeah, nobi extremely good for active pushing and vman runs. And can still make use of omni when claiming the afk.

[polar geyser]

lets goooo serrated rex ring recipe while doing the baba yaga quest

2 birds 1 stone

[pine gale]

Its like 3rd or fourth

[polar geyser]

also just to double make sure better for me to be doing tithe's right?

im like pretty sure because 25% chance etc, but can never be too sure anymore

[restive dock]

gamble it

[pine gale]

I’ve lost so much divi points doing tithe. Never AGAIN

[full beacon]

[restive dock]

i did tithe 3 times in a row and got 3 gods in a day

[warm grove]

damn that actice crystal farming must have went well becuase I fell asleep for like an hour. Real life time candy

[polar geyser]

oh really, its better to do 1%'ers?

[pine gale]

3 tithes in no goat

[indigo stratus]

Im setting my sb on golems tonight and taking one of them 8hr candies

[restive dock]

if u scared, do 1% and the other choice will change to a different%

[polar geyser]

ohhhh

ive just been doing 25%'s cause i was like, a 1/100 odds against a 1/4 odds seems like a no brainer

[pine gale]

If you feel lucky

[polar geyser]

i mean ive done like 3 or 4 tithes so far

[pine gale]

I wont take my gambler mentalities advice if I were u or me

[polar geyser]

ohhhh i see i see

[spiral stump]

does the omniphau's pet breeding affect shiny lvl speed?

[restive dock]

u scared?

[pine gale]

Very.

[restive dock]

i think so

[royal pier]

Can Dream Clouds skip? I want Dream #17 but I'm already seeing Dream #24 and no Luckier Lad

[polar geyser]

i need like 280 more hours to get bear then guaranteed across 7 accounts thats like 40 hours each account so in like 1.5 days i should have bear

[full beacon]

🐻

[polar geyser]

gmalala can i dm you a potentially insanely stupid question

[full beacon]

lmao sure

[warm grove]

a shame we cant all see it

[honest cradle]

I finally pushed vman for some prints

[warm grove]

nice, did it during the speedrun with the mk attack up?

[honest cradle]

it was during speed run but I didnt have much time left idk if I got the multikill skill active

[pallid bloom]

the grind starts

[warm grove]

hmm fair enough

[indigo stratus]

Screenshot the dm for the rest of us

[pallid bloom]

honestly the only thing that might kill me is those things that go past the first guy

[indigo stratus]

They shouldn't if you block

[warm grove]

is that the recommended setup for your arena wave?

[pallid bloom]

nah

probably should switch the guy with the fist for someone else

[warm grove]

hmm because I see the fist guy but no refiller or any of that

which wave are you going for?

[pallid bloom]

my max wave is like 55 so anything past that

[indigo stratus]

Refiller over the big fist dude for sure

[pallid bloom]

Yeah probably should have gotten rid of him, but I ran out of eggs trying to get new spices

[warm grove]

do you have whale and or nachos guy unlocked?

[pallid bloom]

I have whale not nachos

we stopped at wave 79 rip

1 wave from getting another bonus

[warm grove]

you could try looter, rattler, whale, refiller, and burger

it is an rng comp though so you need a bit of luck

[pallid bloom]

I need to get more power on my guys first I think. Probably gonna push breeding for a couple days and try to get better attack guys before doing arena again

Also need better guys on my spices so thats a thing too

[warm grove]

yeah if you get at least 10k on all of them your life will be easier

[full beacon]

weren't even that bad

[warm grove]

[pallid bloom]

I mean all of mine are close to 20k in power. Just want them to be closer to like 30k before continuing

close or above 20k power

[warm grove]

ah, you should be able to win with that setup as long as you are over 10k power avg

[pallid bloom]

like what wave in arena you think?

[warm grove]

enough to get 6th slot I believe

[pallid bloom]

in the order you put it in?

[warm grove]

so like 125

left to right

[pallid bloom]

gotcha. I will give it a try when I get my good eggs tomorrow. Should have some nice silver/gold eggs to use then for some good fighting power

[full beacon]

I haven't bought eggs in months

[pallid bloom]

I dont buy eggs. Just the next time ill be on ill have some silver eggs and stuff waiting for me

[indigo stratus]

With ww its not needed, eggs go brrrr

[pallid bloom]

I havent used my WW in like 3-4 days

all my guys are locked in justice monument at the moment. Only guy I have out is my DB

[full beacon]

lmao I meant irl but that's fair I don't buy eggs in game too xD

[pulsar girder]

oof i just got to the kill 5mil while afk rift and my /hr rate is 60k lmao

that is not for now, i think

[indigo stratus]

Mine all on wisdom except my 2x db too. Til 24k hrs, then back to bravery for 50k hrs

[warm grove]

ah that sucks, I assume you get like 0 mk with that right?

[pulsar girder]

mk?

[pallid bloom]

ohhh my main diet is eggs lol. Just yesterday I made like 15 egg, bacon, sausage, cheese, onion, pepper, and jalapeno burritos for some good meal prep

[warm grove]

multikill

[pulsar girder]

oh multikill. the number was in purple and it said 200% i think

[pallid bloom]

lots of protein

[full beacon]

that sounds so good

[warm grove]

ah, was gonna say you can brute force afk rifts by using fibers prayer even if your dmg isn't enough for mk

[pulsar girder]

its to unlock the gilded stamp thing and my stamps are not that leveled up where its necessary so whatever. and this is a solid indicator that i am not in position to quickly do the next set of 5, so its fine i'll just not do it lol

plenty of other things on the ol' to do list

[pallid bloom]

its delicious. Especially when you grill them up for that crispy tortilla

my next meal prep is gonna be buffalo chicken wraps for lunch/dinner. Just didnt feel like spending an extra 2 hours cooking again

[indigo stratus]

They're about 7g of protein per egg. With the prices of eggs now, thats bout .5$ per 7g. Chicken breast the king for the price

[pallid bloom]

eggs arent too bad when you're military. I can buy them there at like $2 per dozen

[full beacon]

[pallid bloom]

no tax either

[indigo stratus]

Ah, the good ol commissary

[strange flare]

2-4 eggs a day is S tier

[pallid bloom]

gotta love it

[strange flare]

If you haven’t tried it, cream cheese chicken is super easy cheap and delicious

[pallid bloom]

eggs are part of my main diet haha

though im out of the military soon so gonna have to switch up my diet. Wont be able to get all that cheap food anymore

[plain heath]

im going to unlock voidinator to lv 1 once i get the 17 nullo salts but what do i focus on?

[warm grove]

might have to learn how to take care of chickens

[plain heath]

my totem waves are... sad to say the least and its bricking my soul gain

[indigo stratus]

White chicken chili hits too. Chicken breast with cannellini beans or white north, add in cream cheese, broth, cilantro and lime

[pallid bloom]

ikr lol. I do plan on getting plenty of animals though. Already got a few houses im looking at. Just will need to close by like december

[indigo stratus]

What branch/job?

[warm grove]

in terms of td, always do prio of kraken, poisonic, party, ice, lightning

[pallid bloom]

im navy. A RADAR technician

so my whole job is just looking for missiles and shooting them down

[plain heath]

is there a specific level i should stop at or just go max

[warm grove]

oh you never stop

i'm still upgrading them right now

[pallid bloom]

Also spending hours on end fixing the stupid radar that looks for missiles

[indigo stratus]

Ah, that seems rough.

[warm grove]

my party starter is like lvl 102

[plain heath]

my green and above salts are being cooked bc of the lack of dune souls so whats the minimum to just improve it

[pulsar girder]

do you level shrines much

[warm grove]

well i'm sure you can get a much better wave easily with a few krakens, poisonic or 2, and party starters for speed. you watch any TD tutorials?

[indigo stratus]

Was army infantry, myself, years ago. Grunt grunt, crayons our main diet

[plain heath]

nop, not sure if they are accurately updated

[warm grove]

mmh, good old crayons

[pallid bloom]

I would make sure to spend some time in construction upgrading your towers and just save up the charge for now. Focus on getting the best skulls you can for every character

[indigo stratus]

The cherry crayon my favorite

[warm grove]

i'd recommend following cinderbanes guides but those might be too advanced for you rn so maybe follow the guide sheet for now

[pallid bloom]

So far the best setup that has worked for me is running frost, boulder, party, void, and shockwave towers

[plain heath]

yea, i just need to get the souls to actually upgrade my skulls so i want to increase my waves

i have like 7 dune souls lmao

[pallid bloom]

boulders are super broken on the early towers if you have a frost to go with

[warm grove]

true, boulders should get you to at least wave 30 easy

[pallid bloom]

also the void tower helps push back enemies to give you more time for the boulder guys to finish off the enemies

[plain heath]

uh my boulder is 22 and ice is 2

[pallid bloom]

those are basically the 3 main towers for early. After that I would start focusing on those party towers because they can help a lot in the later waves

[plain heath]

so the void is just kraken with de-coloring?

[pallid bloom]

kraken yes

I forget there is a void tower

[plain heath]

kek

void isnt necessary until the snowball one right (idk if it has any additional effects)

[indigo stratus]

Make sure to equip gum while claiming souls, too. My w6 went from 1.5m to 20m using gum, from one worship

[pulsar girder]

you can get past 40 in snowball without void. but a fairly early(?) goal is 'reach 60 in the first 6 TDs' and you'll need it there, i believe

[warm grove]

dang, I already know that your TD is wave 120/130

[pine gale]

I keep forgetting

[pallid bloom]

yeah dont even worry about void for a while. Kraken is where its at. You only need like 1 kraken per 1 frost and like 2 boulders to beat wave 50 of the early totems

[plain heath]

damn

[pallid bloom]

Just keep running a strat like that and youll be fine for the first like 3 worship totems

[polar geyser]

okay for anvil tab 1 recipes i only have 4 in the unlocks tab and 1 rare drop from slimes til i got them all, and the unlocks are just the tshirts so might just get them to unlock it all

[plain heath]

so what priority should i lvl towers? my other slots are being taken up by non-TD towers

[pallid bloom]

priotitize boulder rollers mainly because of the damage

[indigo stratus]

160, that was just testing gum on my ww though

[pulsar girder]

i haven't actually done a TD in a while. did the wave 40 in w3 one from that video in the guides. just been dumping worship on that since. i unlock void wizards like tomorrow or something. wonder if i can get anything valuable right away...

[warm grove]

160??? was that from 1 charge or a quick charge?

[pallid bloom]

especially since you are so early in the worship stuff

[indigo stratus]

And i forfeit when bosses begin to take bit

[indigo stratus]

1 charge

[warm grove]

this is on breezy battle? ahhh

[plain heath]

is lvl 22 not enough

[warm grove]

okok that makes much more sense, I was like that's way too low

[indigo stratus]

Couldn't test if I did quick all

[pallid bloom]

I mean my worship is only level 45 and I can easily reach level 50 on the first 5 totems. When I was 22 I could only really focus on the first 3 though. I wasnt properly leveled in construction though

[indigo stratus]

Make sure you do td on BM/WW, too. For kick and root talents

[warm grove]

is there a quick way to lock/unlock all crops?

[pallid bloom]

naw

[warm grove]

damn guess i'm clicking 30 times for each upgrade twice

[sick oak]

Wish there was

[indigo stratus]

You can lock before you plant, though. Which might be needed later

[pallid bloom]

same honestly. its a pain to have to click every crop every time

[warm grove]

ah yeah was telling AoDC about that I think

[plain heath]

i mean boulder lv 22
i replied to the wrong msg

[pallid bloom]

oh thats more than mine honestly

[indigo stratus]

Speaking of farming, maybe i should push my farming bubbles again

[pallid bloom]

mine are only like level 15

[warm grove]

dang the cost is 22B per upgrade it might be getting close to reset time

[plain heath]

so would i start lvling bubo now?

[pallid bloom]

Its all about the starting placement really. The one that has given me the best shot is to start with from portal would do frost, kraken, boulder, boulder

and then party towers above/below as well as shock towers

and just keep doing that

[plain heath]

i need some help with w2 totem

[lilac fjord]

trying to fight this boss and I can't figure out how to target him. I killed the 5 monbs it asks of me before hand and then he said "it's only fair I let you hit me a few times" but now I cant target him. I tried using auto, I tried using spells in his direction, I spamm clicked EVERYWHERE on his body (and even the area close to his sprite) can someone help please 😭

[pallid bloom]

do the tower start I just told ya. It will work wonders

[pallid bloom]

This one

itll be an easy wave 50

[indigo stratus]

Just turn on auto

[pallid bloom]

Also on the tips and tricks part of this discord it will tell you exactly what upgrades to choose for each type of tower

[hollow cave]

I think that's just a bug, I've had a fair few instances of just being unable to kill it, one of the achievements for killing the boss I believe will let you get hits in at the start where you can just kill it before this has a chance of happening though

[plain heath]

any specific location on the track?

[plain heath]

i feel like if its too close to portal it loses efficiency

[sick oak]

Getting close to +2 gstacks

[pallid bloom]

I mean I just go like maybe 5 player lengths away from portal to start so I can get as much coverage with my party towers as possible

[warm grove]

gstacks?

ahhh nice, how come you are going for statue gstacks?

just felt like it?

[sick oak]

Tome points

[pallid bloom]

Let me look at the 2nd totem layout real quick. Which one is that again? rooted souls?

[warm grove]

hmm, I suppose but you gotta hold onto those statues forever now

[plain heath]

moonmen

[pallid bloom]

aight let me look at the layout

[sick oak]

Move speed doesnt really matter and im fine leaving the chopping alone for awhile

[warm grove]

damn question mark charm is evading me

[pallid bloom]

Yeah just put first tower a bit away from portal and then you can put party towers on the top platform when you use them

[warm grove]

fair enough I suppose, I am currently pushing statue lvls myself

reaching practical max very soon

[sick oak]

Whats that?

[warm grove]

T11 in autoreview for statues, get a few to 280

[plain heath]

what in the misclick

[sick oak]

You just gotta get a few to 280 not all?

[warm grove]

nah not all, you'd be cooked to get all of them to 280. just the easy ones you can farm at beans. or maybe all my other ones are all at the set goal so it doesn't show

[plain heath]

do i do A or B for kraken ice and boulder? i think ice is always A right?

[pallid bloom]

Yeah the misclicks go crazy on the w2 totem. I have never struggled more

[sick oak]

280 dragon statue here i come

[pallid bloom]

go for +2 minions hit for first upgrade on boulder and then extra push distance for your first kracken

I forget what ice is

[warm grove]

the way I remember kraken upgrades is they are sheep

[indigo stratus]

Ice is always the same. Kraken is usually one knockback and rest +1 spawn, unless its different for boulder

[pallid bloom]

Yeah I know first kracken is always extra knockback since he basically never hits full spawns

[plain heath]

so travel speed is bad?

[warm grove]

so close to having enough golden nigiri for the 100k beanstalk

[pallid bloom]

Not really. go +2 enemies hit and then travel distance and then +2 hit again

[limpid bough]

kinda wanna get to w5 just to get arctis 😭

[plain heath]

btw party's buff applies even across platforms right

[warm grove]

completely vaild, i'd do it

[warm grove]

anything within its radius

[pallid bloom]

its better in later rounds, but if you dont get the +2 hit the travel distance means nothing later

[indigo stratus]

If they're in range, yeah

[plain heath]

i doubt i can get to lv 15 so BB?

[pallid bloom]

especially with the quick guys you wanna be able to hit as many of them as possible and having that +2 is huge for that

what is BB?

[indigo stratus]

Upgrades for towers

[pallid bloom]

Brother with a level 33 boulder you better get to at least level 30 on the second totem

[primal crescent]

good methods for farming smithing xp?

[indigo stratus]

Especially on bm/ww

[plain heath]

22

but yea i can reach wave 30 definitely

[pallid bloom]

22 is still better than mine and I can do like level 60. What char are you running it on?

[indigo stratus]

Craft lots of those coldseeker bullets

[plain heath]

since when did i say i failed?

im midrun rn what

[pallid bloom]

What char are you using?

[plain heath]

ww

[pallid bloom]

Okay yeah it should be pretty easy then. Just keep running the same strat I said before to get to 50

[plain heath]

what does thunder tower actually do

[indigo stratus]

Its used to boost other tower crits

[warm grove]

I guess the 57% all stat land rank upgrade ain't that bad, def worth 7 points for this

[pallid bloom]

frost, kracken, 2x boulder. For the main towers. Then run party on top using the speed boost they give and keep repeating

[pallid bloom]

the thunder towers do a lot of damage to a couple of enemies. Good for bosses and such

Also they have a crit chance upgrade to all towers in range

[indigo stratus]

The crit chance pretty good, especially on long runs when your equinox begins scaling

[polar geyser]

now the waiting game 1200 to go, at 10/hr with both prints on printer lmao

[warm grove]

damn I think I messed up, used the lank rank optimizer but the evo unnecesary essentially thought I had like 700 more points than I did so now my OG on the last upgrade is done for

[honest cradle]

ooooooo just got stamp mastery

Uh the description isnt clear? I get a chance when I upgrade? When I log in?

[warm grove]

guilded stamps?

[plain heath]

Stamp Mastery, Every 100 total levels of all your stamps, you get a 1% chance to get a 'Gilded Stamp'

[warm grove]

you have a chance to get a gilded stamp each daily reset, and you can get your stamp chance in decimal form by doing total stamps lvl /10,000

[honest cradle]

ok each daily reset, it says each log in you get a chance

[warm grove]

yeah, just keep logging in for easy stamps

[sick oak]

2x gilded stamp chance when

[warm grove]

i'm halfway there, soon

well I guess more than halfway but I mean to the next one

[sick oak]

Im at 155% rn

[warm grove]

need that lvl 45 hydrogen

[sick oak]

I have done like no ww

[warm grove]

dang that's a little low, I haven't done much either though

[sick oak]

Im just waiting for afk dust

[warm grove]

nice, I did it just for shiny lvls

[sick oak]

Im not even to the end of w2 💀

[honest cradle]

I feel like I gotta be messing something up

[plain heath]

i just left it overnight for a week or two

[honest cradle]

Why is my db my lowest damage char

[tacit cedar]

is there some guide for construction? so confused

[sick oak]

Im on mobile

[sturdy totem]

Good luck

[polar geyser]

rei what kinda obols do you tend to use for family all drop rate?

[warm grove]

check the pins for construction

[plain heath]

un-mobile yourself
stationary

[warm grove]

I can show my obols

however I have come to a realization recently

[polar geyser]

ohhh whats the realisation

[warm grove]

my skilling obols essentialy make up 0.1% of my efficiency

[polar geyser]

cause in terms of obols i dont have many and ive like neglected them hard

[warm grove]

let me give you an example real quick

[polar geyser]

but yeeee gimme any examples you would like to

[warm grove]

on my mining char I got all obols for mining and I get 33 mining power from it right?

[polar geyser]

[sick oak]

Wouldnt main stat give more skill eff?

[warm grove]

I get 7600 mining power from my statues

[warm grove]

probably at this point, i'd have to test both

[polar geyser]

ahhh then yeah its making up like 0.2%

[plain heath]

is this just the worship experience

[warm grove]

so in conclusion, skilling obols are good for early-mid game

[sick oak]

Im getting 171 main stat from my obol set so not a bad source

[warm grove]

hmm might be good for my secondary characters to rock

[sick oak]

Rock over dr set?

[polar geyser]

i got these that im like set on atm and then just a bunch of random bronze and silver ones that i was like, i should probably combine these, then thought about whether its even worth me using the resources to combine or just sacking off the pointless ones and only focussing specific things

[warm grove]

I don't really need dr on my second set of guys because I never active them, so they are better for using as sampling slots

[warm grove]

that hyper is really good, but in family you do want all droprate for everything else

[hollow cave]

is there a specific reason why during Arena pet battles pets can just sometimes die when being hit even with >100,000 block chance from the Eggshell effect?

[polar geyser]

big biggg, yeah the hyper was actually massive for me ngl, shame about the diamond fishing lmao

[warm grove]

you can keep it for your bb for a while, gotta get all obols for the slab anyways

[honest cradle]

db really feels like it suffers from no extra xp mechanic

[warm grove]

and for the tome score actually

[polar geyser]

trueeeee

[strange flare]

Certified fuck you moment in the lava code

[hollow cave]

ah ok so just jank and not a seemingly intentional thing

[sick oak]

Do you know the updated tome point rankings? I know it says in the wiki but it hasnt been updated in over a month

[plain heath]

extra xp?

[warm grove]

hmm, I can't say for sure since lava has to manually update them but i'd imagine the shift is a decent chunk upwards

[polar geyser]

also rei ive been trying to keep myself occupied while my other classes sit in divinity for 1.5 days til i can get bear so ive just been doing some quests bits and pieces slowly getting there in collecting some stuf

[warm grove]

i'll probably still be in top 5% though. if not then i'll go on a tome spree

[warm grove]

what in the world is this setup? all vaguely useful items strewn about. but yeah overall quest completion is good

[sick oak]

Oh ok was just wondering because i was getting close to the 1% rank for what wiki shows lol

[warm grove]

lot of people ignore quests but they usually have a few small bonuses that you get from doing them such as star talents effects and tome score

[sturdy totem]

I have 2 quests left to complete on my account and I hate them

[indigo stratus]

I just use auto and now I know where all my things are located

[polar geyser]

cause its just on my maestro, the candies are just bottom row, balloons fit in the top row, then the skill stuff was kinda just not working nicely together lmao and since its doing quests, these are the only things i really care for in them

[plain heath]

does tome score actually matter tho

[polar geyser]

went from 78 quests done to 120 atm and still going

[polar geyser]

gives bonuses

[warm grove]

in the grand scheme of things not much, but it does give some good buffs

[indigo stratus]

Oh wait, thats inventory 💀

[sturdy totem]

Crop evo

[warm grove]

this is what I get from my tome right now

[plain heath]

i only have the dmg and skill eff unlocked bc the other stuff is too expensive

[cold wraith]

what is my luck with horrendous runs with high justice multis

[polar geyser]

you said it not mattering much later on but the skill eff and dr are still decent no? or does even that drop a bit later on

[warm grove]

well I say it doesn't matter to focus much because most of these points you get rather passively

[indigo stratus]

You reminded me to get my 10 chest run with multi

[warm grove]

so to push tome score only gains you a little bit of extra stuff overall

[cold wraith]

im about to lose on case 70 with a 22x

[polar geyser]

oh yeah its not like a need to focus thing i read it as the bonuses arent that big later on

[warm grove]

damn sounds like my runs

[cold wraith]

whatever

[warm grove]

alright gotta go brain mode on wisdom monument

[indigo stratus]

Should I use my 6x multi, or wait for the added pain of bad rng

[sturdy totem]

gotta go snip mode

[sturdy totem]

Do it!

[sick oak]

I got a 47 chest run with a 7.8x i wish i had waited for a higher multi

[strange flare]

Better to have a good run with a decent multi then flunk in a good multi

[cold wraith]

yea ok

it wasnt 70 but 80 isnt good at all

[warm grove]

damn round 7 I got screwed

[cold wraith]

24k hours for what

[sick oak]

No 24k hours?

[cold wraith]

i got better runs at 10k

[plain heath]

tome has crop evo?

[sturdy totem]

W6 bubble in the orange cauldron

[indigo stratus]

My first 24k run was pretty goated, after that its been all downhill

[sturdy totem]

Gives ~11-12% crop evo per 2k points after 5k

[warm grove]

got some decent player dr and an opal so that was cool

[indigo stratus]

Aight, my turn to tempt the rng gods on justice

[cold wraith]

wow 14 chests and got fuck all

[warm grove]

I am now at 259 opals total so ayy cool

[sturdy totem]

Good luck swoldier

[sturdy totem]

Nicee

[sick oak]

Whats your xp/hr

[warm grove]

honestly I gotta push the chopping and catching nodes more too

hold up let me finish this braver rq, but it's around 1.5b without villager exp enhances

[cold wraith]

30 lucky lads for a vman claim

[warm grove]

filtered hopefully?

[cold wraith]

yep

alr have 2 luckier ones

[sturdy totem]

Goated xp

[warm grove]

same, got sick of lads after 2 luckiers

[cold wraith]

ill retire my vman once he gets to 150 in the 4 skills

[sick oak]

Im working on number 7 now

[warm grove]

oh my vman is lvl 159 on chopping he's the wood cutter

[indigo stratus]

This run isnt going well

[warm grove]

holy unlucky

[cold wraith]

at the minimum round 80 so alr better than me

[indigo stratus]

Birb took my only chest

[cold wraith]

still

[warm grove]

funny enough I've done that bird like 5 times and every time he just steals my chest, and yet I always say yes

[sturdy totem]

We love gambling

[warm grove]

alright I finished my bravery, rn my exp is 1.78b with 259 opals

[neat falcon]

how do I power level my meastro in trapping ? the eagle eye charcter has mugh higher levels

[warm grove]

you gotta use all exp traps on your maestro, and chill on them on your main trapper

[languid harness]

Does the "apocalypse chow" enhancement only work on blood berserker cause it does not count on my death bringer?

[indigo stratus]

I've turned it around, minus my chest count 💀

[sturdy totem]

You can balloon it for emergency levels otherwise nature traps

[warm grove]

is this your same character or 2 different ones?

[indigo stratus]

Second birb interarcion to gamble for hp, first one succeeded. Do I risk it?

[sturdy totem]

Yes

[warm grove]

yeah sure, worst case scenario you loose a few hp

[sturdy totem]

Bird always

[tacit cedar]

silly question but how do i remove characters out of the construction cog grid? apparently im just supposed to use squire?

[warm grove]

my brain believes in the odds even if my heart doesn't

[indigo stratus]

Another +2 hp

[sturdy totem]

In borb we trust

[warm grove]

yeah check the pins and go to construction, basically you use only squires on the board and mega boost their exp gains

[sturdy totem]

Drag them out of it

[warm grove]

oh that, put them into the cog slots where they appear when you make them, and then put them into the cog making slots

[native trail]

tyson’s best place for w2 statues? and no idc abt no glass shards i want most statues

[warm grove]

alright yeah as long as you get 2 disciples down at a time

[native trail]

so tysons okay

[warm grove]

yep, that's what I farmed on dk

[fair sonnet]

if i link to bear on my bubo do i still give exp to my characters on my left? and how do i make sure my bubo is all the way to the right to maximize green tube

[warm grove]

you just move their position in the place where you drag them around

[fair sonnet]

i see thanks

[indigo stratus]

Bird took 2-3 chests for that hp tho

[lethal girder]

while 1 of my characters is pushing for W4 what should my other characters do? farm money or just skilling?

[warm grove]

probably just sit in lab ngl

[lethal girder]

Im still at W3

[warm grove]

ohh my bad

[river spruce]

Is there a lvling guide for skills? (like go here at this lvl or eff etc?) trying to skill my new maestro and its pain

[lilac plover]

what do i do after i unlock the 2x kills lab mainframe

[warm grove]

uh don't do too much skilling so i'd say probably fighting and gathering materials

[warm grove]

you can focus on pushing W4

[warm grove]

you talking about making use of the transfusion talent or just in general?

[lilac plover]

isnt maestro supposed to skill so you can get the extra skill eff on other characters

[indigo stratus]

Justice multi?

[lilac plover]

thanks

[warm grove]

ah yeah maestro should skill, the others should not

[lilac plover]

ohh thanks

[warm grove]

yeah justice multi is huge

[river spruce]

I dont even know what that means. But i mean general. Is transfusion a thing that i should look into?

[sturdy totem]

It's a maestro skill talent

[warm grove]

it's an attack talent that takes from efficiency and gives to exp gains

[river spruce]

Oh yeah i have that maxed

[warm grove]

but yeah in general when I was lvling my maestro what I would do is make all the gear that he could use, including food and equipping cards, and then I would check the node that gives me the highest exp without transfusion on. then I would use transfusion and check the nodes again to see if it gives higher exp or not

[river spruce]

that makes sense

[warm grove]

so say if I was mining, i'd check like dementia, plat, and either void or gold depending on my efficiency as to which one gives the most exp. then i'd do the same with transfusion and would use the setup that gives the most exp

[indigo stratus]

I guess not terrible for 6x run with only 27 chests

[sturdy totem]

What case did you get to?

[indigo stratus]

145

[sturdy totem]

Nicee

[warm grove]

rip, lost 6 gstacks to something oh well they come and go

[indigo stratus]

I had birb offer me the hp again, but didn't wanna gamble on 1 hp

[warm grove]

I would've done it just because

[indigo stratus]

I was debating it, ngl

Since he took 2-3 chests and gave 4 hp that run

[sturdy totem]

Bird doesn't take HP on 1 hp

Wait that's not what you meant, nvm

Wait it is? I may be tired

[indigo stratus]

Does birb not? Guide says it does, never risked it

[elfin widget]

am i missing something? there is only 39 lab features. why does the w4 task give ou points for 42?

[sturdy totem]

If it is, yeah bird doesn't take HP if you have 1, I've risked it many times and it just doesn't change

[sturdy totem]

Jewels?

[warm grove]

nah there is literally only 39 in the game rn

lava will likely add more later on i'd imagine

[sturdy totem]

Then it's just classic Lava future proofing moment yeah

Same with all the achievement tasks

[indigo stratus]

If only id have known birb doesnt take your last hp

[sturdy totem]

Guide needs an update 😞

[indigo stratus]

That run got me to 887 monument afk and 2.45B villager exp though, not complaining

Basically doubled my justice multi in one run 💀

[warm grove]

ah I didn't know you could use spacebar in the fishing minigame, will make judging the distances by holding way easier in the future

[pulsar girder]

still think its a longshot for me to beat two more spice territoy fights this week BUT i did get a hit on learning the wild boar recipe (which was a low % chance one) and got the pastpres multiplier and leveled it twice so i might be able to make some huge w2 guys and blitz through the unlocks to get the monocle guy maybe? it'd be cool to pull this off and get the nanochip before it rotates. and if i fail, whatever. still good to make breed/cook progress lol

[random pollen]

i ain't reading all that but im happy for u

[polar geyser]

that feeling when you have a stamp you need for a quest then forget for a second and go to the stamp dude

time to grind another one

[random pollen]

if it's the kapow quest guy i accidentally got >200 of them accidentally claiming instead of splicing some gigafrogs, you'll be fine

[polar geyser]

nahhhh its the crystallin one

so need to get lucky on another crystal stamp

[stray anchor]

does dna sampling matter

[cloud turtle]

trapping question: I read that it records my efficiency when I place the trap, and collecting via drone leaves that recorded. Does that mean I should use skill xp card set effect when collecting instead of efficiency?

[sly nova]

Ain't no way

[cloud turtle]

or do my cards just not matter when collecting

[sly nova]

If you got that rift you don't have to tbh

[cloud turtle]

don't have that rift

[sly nova]

🧑🏼‍🦯

If you want exp? Use that vman skill the blue fire one... Then set trap using vman

🧑🏼‍🦯

[cloud turtle]

I want shinies mostly

[sly nova]

Use bm

[cloud turtle]

I am

[sly nova]

Then shiny snitches

[cloud turtle]

I also am

[sly nova]

Then where's the problem at?

[cloud turtle]

does my card setup matter when collecting

[sly nova]

🧑🏼‍🦯

[cloud turtle]

or only when setting trap

[sly nova]

🧑🏼‍🦯

[cloud turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-april-ludgate-help-sticky-note-need-help-gif-25019430

[sly nova]

Skill mastery?

No ?

[cloud turtle]

don't have ityet

but that's also not my question lmao

I know these things help, I'm working towards them

[sly nova]

Rip

[cloud turtle]

do I need to change my card before collecting or no?

[sly nova]

F

Just use your card when setting trap and collect

[cloud turtle]

thaaaaaaaaaank you

[sly nova]

Work on skill mastery

So you won't ask an obvious question

[cloud turtle]

bruh

what does skill mastery have to do with this xD

[sly nova]

So you won't use the card

[cloud turtle]

it doesn't make sets passive tho

which was my question

15 years ago

[restive dock]

card set never be passived

[cloud turtle]

i know

my question was: which set should I use when collecting traps, or does it not matter

[restive dock]

based on what u need? exp or critter

[cloud turtle]

critters, but I read that traps record efficiency when you set the trap

so does efficiency help when collecting too?

[restive dock]

more eff = more critter and only when u set the trap, not collect it

[cloud turtle]

gotcha

I used it when setting. For collecting can I just collect whenever, or does xp set actually help?

using talent ofc

[restive dock]

it only affect when u set the trap, the collection is the same whatever ur set on

[cloud turtle]

sweet, thanks

[neat falcon]

i have 2 dks one maestro and one of every other elite class. WHat should next class be ?

[cloud turtle]

ES or SB

is what's generally recommended

kinda whatever order you like. By the time it becomes important, you'll have both

[polar geyser]

i have no space in my storage chests idk how people can manage it so easily lmao

[restive dock]

buy more from gem shop

[polar geyser]

unfortunately do not have the gems for that atm

[iron jay]

tbh, now 2nd ES and SB not so useful, but no other choices

[robust marsh]

There are choices but not good ones

[cloud turtle]

challenge run: 10 vman

[robust marsh]

Do it

[iron jay]

iirc, ES for extra god link, but The Hole solve this problem

SB for bar smelting but The Hole again and smelting time nerf

[robust marsh]

Ye

[cloud turtle]

do the sailing talents on sb stack?

[robust marsh]

Maybe

[restive dock]

or just wait for all master class release

[cloud turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593

[iron jay]

i hope master bubo in may

[exotic swallow]

in 2026

[restive dock]

we have bubo master class before gta vi

[cloud turtle]

tbh I'm impressed lava releases new classes even twice a year as a solo dev

but also I am addicted and want all the content

[restive dock]

he working 25 hours per day

[neat falcon]

2nd bb ?

[exotic swallow]

he should release them every 10 years as a solo dev

[iron jay]

100% no

[neat falcon]

so dont create the last two till then ? seems inefficient!

[restive dock]

i mean let them be beginner and lab jail or div jail

[neat falcon]

do people do this ?

[restive dock]

yea, many

[neat falcon]

how often are mastry classes released ?

[iron jay]

i think master bubo don't solve this problem

[exotic swallow]

until all elite classes get one

masteer bubo will just give easy pass to 400 tenti

[restive dock]

u can do 3/3/3/1 for the most balance

[iron jay]

DB was released in January, WW - april

[restive dock]

3 months for a master class is insane

[neat falcon]

i could jsut create the last two as a mage and archer , and not get the elite class right ?

[restive dock]

3 weeks?????

[exotic swallow]

not 3 weeks anymore soon at least

[cloud turtle]

sure

[neat falcon]

subclass can be repecced iirc

[restive dock]

hope bubo master class don't need to be active anymore, db and ww already been painful

[exotic swallow]

are yall ready for bubo wind walker

[cloud turtle]

it can. Elite can too, but the tickets are rare in the shop

[iron jay]

[indigo stratus]

Yes, as can elite... just elite very rare

[exotic swallow]

mid class then nothing to do

[indigo stratus]

And the elite resets cost 1k gems iirc

[cloud turtle]

ayyyy my nuggets went up to 2k

[river spruce]

hows everyone?

[cloud turtle]

eepy

you

[sour sail]

Ello

[river spruce]

Same. Debating what to do. Or if i should just drop my account for a review lmao

[sturdy totem]

Its 100% going to be

[somber depot]

Fucking woke up at 7 for a class only for my teacher to reschedule it

[sturdy totem]

Maybe the other 3 won't be tho

[river spruce]

FFFFFF

[somber depot]

ES's evo is defo gonna be active

[somber depot]

If it was a weekday I wouldn't be so mad

[sturdy totem]

Why ES's?

[somber depot]

It's the weekend

[somber depot]

I can just feel it

Be ready for nonexistent mana

Cuz that reduc is also coming when it's in it's mode

[sturdy totem]

I don't wanna

I'm hoping lava takes the feedback and makes the other trio not as active

But he wouldn't break a triad design so bubo must still be active

[somber depot]

Js like with WW speed reduc and DB crit dmg reduc

[sturdy totem]

If ES is active it will mean the rest of the 6 will be and I don't wanna believe

[somber depot]

Even if the master classes for bubo and DK turn out shite they'll still be phenomenal

[river spruce]

I just wanna play ES anyways

[somber depot]

ES sucks imo

[river spruce]

ES is bis at the point im at. Cant beat it. Late game? who knows

Although i mainly play DK cause its the furthest i have atm. and much higher lvl

[somber depot]

Late game which is my stage ES kinda gets outstripped in terms of dmg, dr and other useful things

Still the best mob mat farmer tho

[river spruce]

Yeah thats the only thing thats useful rn. mat farming.

Not gonna be deathnote farming anytime soon

[somber depot]

Until you have an obscene amount of mkpt and mk

[river spruce]

and i dont have W6 unlocked. stuck on the starting quest

[true hamlet]

ES bubo and dk bad, they crash the game pretty quickly 😂

DB too I guess

These archers have no firepower

[somber depot]

What an upgrade

[river spruce]

Well. I dont kill too much so that isnt an issue for me lmao. i leave my DK on overnight and its fine

[somber depot]

Do you have no autoloot?

[true hamlet]

Nah , I choose to not buy it

[river spruce]

ur insane

[true hamlet]

Just how I play, my loss of course

[river spruce]

@somber depot wanna give me some direction for my account? I got choice paralysis at this point

[somber depot]

[somber depot]

Tbh I dipped for a while so I might not be the best person to ask for advice from

But sure

[river spruce]

fair

[true hamlet]

Upgrade stone diff (just the gshard pieces)

10k main stat fairly consistently

[somber depot]

Might be a tad bit overkill

[somber depot]

Oh yeahhh I also gave my guy GS armor

[true hamlet]

Nice

Pretty consistent

I need to book some stuff on db for sure

[somber depot]

He got a bit of a buff

[true hamlet]

Nice

[somber depot]

Maybe like 75qq

[iron jay]

why tempest ring?

[somber depot]

Couldn't be arsed to remove it

DB's stats

Need to make him a set of GS armor and tools

[compact pagoda]

Aggh

whats with the random friend requests 😡

[river spruce]

@somber depot sent btw

[sly nova]

Better than mine

💔

[halcyon jungle]

How many DNA spirals do I need to get anywhere with the mob I've been AFK fighting? How do I even check how many spirals I got for it? If this is of any help, I'm splicing the bullfrog but I haven't unlocked it in breeding yet. Honestly a bit lost

[lilac plover]

how should i spend my green gems

all on deluxe treat?

[sly nova]

Get your legacy pet first

[halcyon jungle]

What is that?

[sly nova]

?

[lilac plover]

spend all on legacy pets?

[sly nova]

I'm sorry... Companions

[compact pagoda]

teach em fellas

[sly nova]

If you already got all then no

[halcyon jungle]

Sorry I just dont know if youre talking to me or spartana

[lilac plover]

thanks

[compact pagoda]

both of u get em

[sly nova]

Just so you know... You can't check em

But use your 1hr time candy to check em 😹😹

[compact pagoda]

that if is candy

[polar geyser]

loving life mid way through snake dungeon 3

[sly nova]

Lol

That always happens btw

[polar geyser]

andddd its now meant it didnt count my quest

biggggg

[sly nova]

Don't do em coop btw

Do solo so it works

[polar geyser]

nah im soloing them

[sly nova]

[polar geyser]

the most annoying part is im doing it on vman

or well

soon to be vman

[sly nova]

[polar geyser]

good old maestro 0 skills

[sly nova]

Get em vman

0 skill needed

[sly nova]

Shhhh

[polar geyser]

yeahhhhh im just waiting another day for my divinity

working on bear atm and 1.5 days off of getting bear to then start doing the kills for vman again cause the 2x will be nice to have, and can keep most of them working towards 3rd one for 2x active kills aswell

so then my es can start actually farming

[sly nova]

Imma do 1 by 1 tomorrow for more beans

[polar geyser]

cause i started working on it yesterday or day before with my es with no lab and no 2x from the 3rd god

[sly nova]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-sleeping-sleepy-dog-perritodormido-dormido-gif-16542296809354104671

[polar geyser]

with 10k kills per hour and 400% multi

[sly nova]

😹

[polar geyser]

so yeah

[sly nova]

You're on w5?

Or just started pushing w5?

[polar geyser]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=JofashI

just started pushing w5 technically havent actually started it yet

gonna get bear then send the dk to push the es to farm kills and the maestro to farm mushrooms

then pop vman as fast as possible with all those

and then we keep working backwards from what i neglected

[sly nova]

Damn your bubble(alchemy)need some help...

🧑🏼‍🦯

[polar geyser]

i havent really leveled many cause of a lack of resources, and just been working on unlocking

so mid page 3 atm on unlocking, the vials are similar mostly level 1s just working on getting them

[sly nova]

Do your vials everyday btw.,

[polar geyser]

my printers trash etc so cant really push them an amount