midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[honest cradle]

Did you get rick rolled?

[mossy anvil]

why dont u click it yourself and check

yes i did

[honest cradle]

Feels too obvious

[mellow jetty]

Thank you. I'm almost there haha

[next oar]

Is it that for dungeons

[honest cradle]

no

[mossy anvil]

gstack is 10m of 1 item type, i need to collect 200 items with 10m stack to finish dream

[next oar]

Is it any you want?

[hexed shoal]

[mossy anvil]

its any item that stacks. some are easier to do than others

[next oar]

Where can I get that ?

[mossy anvil]

gstack? put 10 milion logs for example in your storage

name will become green so u know its green stacked

[hexed shoal]

Stack 10m of any item in storage

[next oar]

Ok

Will take me to long

[mossy anvil]

u just print those later on

[lofty abyss]

is there a community chosen server to do the /dance achiev?

[hexed shoal]

#party-finder-👪

[mossy anvil]

i can hop in, just tell me server

[lofty abyss]

its on party finder

[mossy anvil]

Hi manny

[native trail]

anyone can enlighten me with the details of the infamous recipe Gs blade?

[compact lake]

does agi stat affect breeding

[native trail]

thanks

[hexed shoal]

No

[compact lake]

thx

[hexed shoal]

Only stuff that effects breeding is stuff that says it does

[compact lake]

so no skill effiency?

[native trail]

na

[lofty abyss]

ight done

[thorny zinc]

done with the last easy bubble

[warm grove]

wdym done?

[native trail]

done?…

[little echo]

What gear is recommended for W4 pushing?

[native trail]

gs

[little echo]

gs?

[thorny zinc]

done for now as im focusing good bubbles now

[native trail]

godshard

[little echo]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-hyuns-dojo-bog-low-tier-god-gif-17621293082832592536

[warm grove]

get all the other W6 bubbles to 1k now (that are easy)

[native trail]

https://tenor.com/view/jesus-ballin-mars-bars-gif-19910027

[little echo]

:C

What should I get?

[native trail]

btw i’m jus playing it’s not gs i think u should have chiz gear

[thorny zinc]

yeah done with that

[warm grove]

oh really?

[polar geyser]

theres an entire bot command for it

[warm grove]

there are 7 easy W6 bubbles to get

[thorny zinc]

yep

[thorny zinc]

7???

[little echo]

Thx Manny :D!

[little echo]

I'll def check it out then. What's the command?

[native trail]

anyzime my friend

[polar geyser]

come to #bot-commands

[warm grove]

yeah 7, you got them all to 1k

[native trail]

!gear

[candid scarab]

🚫 Manny_ ( Calavera ), you need to wait 5 seconds to use that command again.

[native trail]

AYE

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[native trail]

not updated tho so idk

[little echo]

Thx guys

[little echo]

But I would suppose that gear works fine. I skipped amarok for W2 and 3, so I wanna do things right for once 😛

[native trail]

yup shud be good

[polar geyser]

@thorny zinc my multikill feels like its low for where im at but im not sure, any advice on how to tell

[thorny zinc]

send a ss first

[native trail]

Yea shadow help us

[thorny zinc]

with your kph

[polar geyser]

okay bet bet

[thorny zinc]

at gmush for example

[polar geyser]

ohhh you wanting it there or at the stage im at etc

[thorny zinc]

any map tbh

[sonic briar]

can you 3d print distilled water

[native trail]

ohhhhh

[thorny zinc]

alr know

[polar geyser]

lacking dmg?

[thorny zinc]

1. you dont hit multikill at all

because of lacking damage yes

[polar geyser]

im getting like 3 kills per one on the portal atm so i just assumed that was the multikill

[thorny zinc]

thats kill per kill

[sonic briar]

I need so much distilled water bruu 😭

[polar geyser]

ohhhh

alright then time to try up damage

[thorny zinc]

there is multikill per tier, multikill and kill per kill

[native trail]

what u at rn

[soft girder]

how do i boost artifact find chance?

[little echo]

I'm maining Hunter. Chat, am I cooked?

[thorny zinc]

use this prayer if you have it

[soft girder]

0.8 chance is pitiful

[thorny zinc]

nvm wont help

[native trail]

ouch yh that’s def something to work on

[polar geyser]

traded out the dmg for the accuracy on gear

[native trail]

can u do chiz gear? or too hard

[thorny zinc]

equip damage pots too

[polar geyser]

i mean i can just swap out my speed pots for strength pots

[soft girder]

even i cant do chiz gear

[thorny zinc]

chiz blankie not gear

[polar geyser]

in terms of gear, im still waiting on bloaches to get anvil tab 3

[native trail]

Whaaaat

[soft girder]

oh

[native trail]

ok ok

[thorny zinc]

chiz gear is good but not necesary imo

[sonic briar]

how do I get a lot of distilled water fast, like 350ish

[soft girder]

it costs like blue salt no?

[native trail]

gud for early worlds

[soft girder]

i aint spending any salt on that

[thorny zinc]

buy water everyday from the alchemy shop

[little echo]

Better than me, based

[thorny zinc]

i only used amarok/dementia till mid w6 so idk

[sonic briar]

I do that

[soft girder]

salt is honestly the biggest factor blocking me from going from dementia gear to like kattlekruk gear ngl

[native trail]

Yea tht can carry but until w5 it’s gettin harder

[thorny zinc]

thats all

[native trail]

how’s yo alch

[polar geyser]

yeah my plan was go for anvil 3 with journeyman to get the skills up then get dementia for it etc

[polar geyser]

[hexed shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1364366733435211776/1369816639889215528/caption.gif

[soft girder]

guys how do i know if i reached the last alchemy bubble?

[polar geyser]

also new question shadow

[thorny zinc]

time to unlock w7 bubbles

[pallid bloom]

this capital P questline is such a pain

[polar geyser]

when you said about me getting construction up it was focus boulder and max printer, i have 3 slots, would you say its better to unlock everything level 1 first with 2 slots and maxing printer with 3rd, or doing printer, boulder and then only doing 3rd for unlocking stuff

[thorny zinc]

i rather go for boulder asap

[hexed shoal]

Boulder is nice TD

[thorny zinc]

to be able to unlock royal sampler

and other good prayers

[polar geyser]

okay sounds good, just wanted to make sure cause i wasnt sure if it was better to have at least 1 of everything while maxing printer or both up

printers 7/10 atm so not long til i have another free slot

[hexed shoal]

I mean you have 4 construction slots right?

[polar geyser]

funny you say that i just checked in with my merits and hit 3 so got the 4th

[hexed shoal]

Noice

[native trail]

i’ll achieve 10T someday…

[warm grove]

tomorrow

[thorny zinc]

you will get there in no time

[native trail]

i hope to

[thorny zinc]

i got to this in 5 months you can def become even better than me

also i should be a lot better now but hole is so slow without samurai and i cant progress any faster than this

i need to wait 6 days for wisdom monument💀

[sick oak]

Up to 5

[thorny zinc]

nicee

why no divine tho?

[sick oak]

I like dr

[thorny zinc]

shouldnt be easy for you?

[sick oak]

It would be but whatever

[thorny zinc]

same

lmao its 8% more dr

[sick oak]

Huge amounts

[thorny zinc]

missing 35% total damage and 30 all stats its crazy

[warm grove]

yeah 30 all stats is crazy

[thorny zinc]

i had 40m kph at samurais and now i have 16m here what happened?

[warm grove]

cards

[pine fiber]

food ran out?

[thorny zinc]

food is good, cards are good, vman multikill talent is on

[mossy anvil]

density?

[thorny zinc]

im on good preset too

now its only 32m

hm

[mossy anvil]

mine is also lower there

[pine fiber]

is this the same device you played on recently?

[thorny zinc]

yes

im only playing on pc

[pine fiber]

did you change anything before logging onto this?

[thorny zinc]

i havent logged of at all

[pine fiber]

although the big difference would only be vman

[thorny zinc]

let me find the old image

my afk gains were higher what

[pine fiber]

yeah you are missing 15%

[thorny zinc]

hm

[pine fiber]

idk, I think its the cards

you have less dmg too

[mossy anvil]

talents, card set

[thorny zinc]

same cards and preset

[white path]

damage cards?

[warm grove]

chips

[thorny zinc]

right chips

thx rei i forgot that i removed them for vman speedrun sampling

[pine fiber]

obols?

[thorny zinc]

nah obols are fine im running full dr

[warm grove]

afk fighting 15% chip

[thorny zinc]

one sec

[warm grove]

that's how i knew

[thorny zinc]

done

[white path]

why r u using damage cards for kills?

[thorny zinc]

i only forgot woodlin

now its even better

[white path]

try these

[thorny zinc]

done

a bit better indeed

[true hamlet]

Bullseye statue such a pain

And I'm already down to my last 1k hours

[polar geyser]

are there are any cosmetics like the wings cloaks etc that are f2p?

[mossy anvil]

candy it, no point suffering

[mossy anvil]

yes, from bosses

[polar geyser]

they look cool? or all mid?

[mossy anvil]

kruk looks kinda cool

[polar geyser]

[fresh cedar]

im new to the rift, any tips?

[uncut wagon]

Okay i need to know if anyone else has experienced this before i report it as a bug: was using steam deck and changing my lab layout around, was moving a character when i accidentally pressed a button to close the menu, my character has dissappeared from the board

Is there an easy fix for this or am i screwed for the foreseeable?

[past hedge]

when they say dk/es are good active classes do i have to like manually attack or just using auto and staying ingame?

[true hamlet]

Auto

[past hedge]

alr

[true hamlet]

Never heard about it, sorry

[uncut wagon]

Awesome

I might repeat it till all my characters are gone from the board for a laugh

[true hamlet]

That's fine

[polar geyser]

we love to see it

[uncut wagon]

I cant repeat it :/

How do i even submit this as a bug? Do i take a picture of the absence of a character? XD

[night oracle]

How bad?

From just over 1h of farming

[uncut wagon]

Can i have the shield statues pls 😘

[night oracle]

No

[uncut wagon]

:(

[night oracle]

I need 20k

[warm grove]

hey I got the same amount from being on ES

[uncut wagon]

I just lost a character for the lab

[night oracle]

:(

[warm grove]

wow I am dumb I was on skilling cards

[uncut wagon]

Pls i need it to repay the loss of my main sporecap printer

[compact lake]

does party starter's dmg buff not stack with multiple party starters?

[night oracle]

It does

[compact lake]

k

[mossy anvil]

Tbh rei i thought dr will skyrocket after getting sanctum

It went up but is kinda meh

[royal schooner]

do crystal mobs spawn when ur afk

[mossy anvil]

Active-afk yes, offline afk no

[deep gale]

Can i time candy these?

[mossy anvil]

Nope

[deep gale]

course not....

[true hamlet]

Eh? That's like 25h to get onyx...

[night oracle]

Isn't that bad?

[warm grove]

fairly bad, but you usually want it to take less than a day active

[night oracle]

What should I do to up rates?

[true hamlet]

Book orb

[mossy anvil]

Dr and crystal chance, book orb

[night oracle]

Maxed for what I can

[true hamlet]

Orb levels actually matter more than dr lol

[warm grove]

better orb, use movespeed food

[true hamlet]

Symbols maxed?

300 orb is good enough I think

[night oracle]

My orb is booked at 240 (291 with bonuses)
Already using all speed foods
I don't know how to get more DR atm
I could still increase symbols

[true hamlet]

Crystal spawn chance maxed?

At your current stage that is

[mossy anvil]

U can get some dr from po boxes if u didnt yet

[night oracle]

1/50
Only can get more rn from ruby genies and stamp

[night oracle]

Nahh, that one is maxed
Otherwise I'd have no crystal chances lol

[mossy anvil]

Ah its the same one? My bad

[night oracle]

Ye

[mossy anvil]

U can vman enchant knight statue so your kills/h will rise

It should hit 2 statues at your stage

[deep gale]

This guy kinda easy

[mossy anvil]

With mana box for cdr

[oak mason]

Honestly only the 2nd boss is any difficult all others are either damage checks or just tedious

[night oracle]

Huh? What is that from?

[night oracle]

295 rn

[mossy anvil]

Thst vman talent that enhance other class talents every 25 levels

[deep gale]

yeahhh i'm realzing that, the elephant was kinda hard but cheezeable. kamarock or whatevs is super easy. and this guy was only a dmg check

[night oracle]

Ohh

[mossy anvil]

It gives knight statue extra 20s

[night oracle]

I got lucky and barely rolled high enough on the book to get that

[mossy anvil]

Also idk where u farm but pots are best spot imo for statues

[night oracle]

Yup

[mossy anvil]

Idk what else tbh

[serene orbit]

what does SB and DB stand for in the context of sampling setups?

[mossy anvil]

SB flies, db fish

[night oracle]

Db fishing
Ah catching

[serene orbit]

i mean, what are they short for?

[indigo stratus]

Siege breaker ans death bringer, in this game

[serene orbit]

ty

[night oracle]

I guess I did some small upgrade so I'll go clean my inventory and check back later if rates went up

I got 3 hours before I have to get up for work :)

Omg I just realised a mistake

Didn't have the drop rate prayer on

[true hamlet]

Doesn't affect much

[night oracle]

It's still +1x

Now I'm at 27.98x

[pulsar girder]

hmmmmm exalted stamps...what to use on..

[true hamlet]

Multitool crystallin mason jar

[pulsar girder]

fair enough, figured it was those +/- refinery speed

[night oracle]

Refinery is mehh

[mellow jetty]

Akaru are you just in W4?

[true hamlet]

W6

More compass progress than me

[elfin escarp]

do you need shiny snitched prayer equipped on the player when you collect traps? or do you just need it equipped when to place them for it to work?

[true hamlet]

Collect

Shinies are only calculated when traps are collected

[deep gale]

B-BRO, I AINT EVEN SEEN HALF THE COINS

[native otter]

i found a thing

[true hamlet]

So if you also have trap vacuum, it makes sense to log on after reset on windwalker

[elfin escarp]

how does it work with auto collect then?

[true hamlet]

Just calculates on the person who logs on first after reset

[elfin escarp]

oh aight ty

[night oracle]

I'm mid w6 with map progression, late W4 with actual progress according to autoreview

[sick warren]

Best map for farming W4 crystal mobs?

[native otter]

can any warrior do doot fight with me and another person who is in w1 chat?

[serene orbit]

does fight afk% affect sampling?

[night oracle]

I think it was donuts

[indigo stratus]

Wow, neglecter

[night oracle]

Is that me?

[indigo stratus]

That was me

[night oracle]

Oh XD

[indigo stratus]

Bc i had auto refine on and its big no no

[night oracle]

Also, high orb duration isn't good at a certain point

If the duration is longer than your cooldown it places before other is gone, resets orb count, then when first one expires, it resets again

[latent bramble]

the longer duration trumps the minor amount of overlap

[sick oak]

@thorny zinc i did it 😮‍💨

[night oracle]

No

The longer duration gets cancelled out by it resetting your orb count as it places the second

Lava changed so auto mode recasts abilities even before the old one expires

[sick warren]

It flubs it up twice....
#1 when the new one drops, current count drops down to 0. Then it begins rebuilding.
#2 when the old one expires, current count drops down to 0 again. Then it once again begins rebuilding.

[night oracle]

Ye

[sick warren]

I've lost out on like 100-200 stacks when original expires.

[strange flare]

gilded pots OP i own every jar now

[night oracle]

It used to wait for the old one to expire

[night oracle]

W

[sick warren]

i just turn auto off until the original expires

[night oracle]

Yeah, that doesn't work for statue farming while afk, sadly

Rn I just reset the level to match duration and cooldown

[latent bramble]

I mean, it's always recast at 5s remaining on the buff, and i'm pretty sure it's still doing that, it's why we have this command

!orb

[candid scarab]

TL;DR: More orb talent points = better (in most cases)

1. Place Orb 1. It has a duration of 181 seconds.
2. Orb 2 will place after 176 seconds have passed, with 5 seconds of duration remaining. Your orb count is reset.
3. Orb 2 will last a duration of 181 seconds. However, after 5 seconds, Orb 1 despawns and the orb count is reset.
4. After another 171 seconds, Orb 3 will place, with 5 seconds of duration remaining. Your Orb count is reset.
5. Orb 3 will last a duration of 181 seconds. However, after 5 seconds, Orb 2 despawns and the orb count is reset.
6. After another 171 seconds, Orb 4 will place, with 5 seconds of duration remaining. Your Orb count is reset.
7. Orb 4 will last a duration of 181 seconds. However, after 5 seconds, Orb 3 despawns and the orb count is reset.

This repeats indefinitely.

[latent bramble]

I also confirmed it doesn't recast early

[night oracle]

That means 5 seconds at the start and end is wasted

So 10 seconds of orb stacking lost

[latent bramble]

so again the minor amount of time where i go from 0 to 50 and then 0 again is far outweighed by the longer orb duration at multiple 100 stacks

with how orb stacks work you want as high as possible, i'm pretty sure this has been tested extensively in w6 and endgame chat if you want to go look for it

[unreal basalt]

Do u only get more cog space with gems?

[night oracle]

I don't think you understand it
The time you have to stack high is still the same, but there's a dead spot at start and end of your duration
So technically it'd be more efficient to not overlap

[night oracle]

When was this made

[latent bramble]

There's a vial that gives a few spots

Before the change, but it functions essentially the same way

[unreal basalt]

Oo ok

[latent bramble]

you get both orbs and reset, the original one disappears and it resets again

[night oracle]

Yes

[latent bramble]

but that's fine, because those 10 seconds of dead time at low stacks are outweighed by the hundreds of extra stacks of exra duration you're getting

[night oracle]

So that overlapping time is lost stacks

No.....

That extra time is also lost from placing a new orb....

[latent bramble]

ok, do you happen to have any statue/crystal farming rates to compare?

[uneven obsidian]

in Xayayah testing we trust

[latent bramble]

I'm totally down to compare, since there was technically some change made by lava

[pale thicket]

do we have an updated list or image of what drops where for ww?

[latent bramble]

It just seems the way it affects orb is how it used to be anyway

[pale thicket]

ty ty ty

[night oracle]

If you have 147s duration and 137s cooldown
You have an overlap of 10 seconds at the start (after which you lose your stacks, so you lose your first 10 seconds of stacking) and 10 seconds overlap at the end of your orb (losing stacks again and reducing effective duration with another 10s)
Now instead of 147 seconds duration your only have 127 seconds of effective duration instead of the 137 seconds of you don't have any overlap

[uneven obsidian]

yes but you loose the potential 100-200 higher stack you could have reached from longer duration

[night oracle]

Up to you to believe it or not, can't explain more simple than that

[night oracle]

YOU HAVE LESS EFFECTIVE DURATION THOUGH
YOU DONT HAVE MORE

[latent bramble]

show me some statue rates to compare
easiest way to see which is right

[night oracle]

I don't have time rn to spend 10 hours of active time during the day because someone doesn't want to listen to logic

[latent bramble]

i don't need 10 hours, like 5-10 minutes is fine

[uneven obsidian]

ah ok so pointless artgument since no proof, got it

[latent bramble]

you know, i guess i can do it myself

since that would cut out any other variables

[night oracle]

5 minutes to show rates is very RNG depending

[latent bramble]

what talent level are you at?

[royal schooner]

how rare is a crystal carrot , i didnt get a single one in 2 hours even with buffs

[uneven obsidian]

!crystal

[candid scarab]

The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.

[night oracle]

On my orb?

[indigo stratus]

Depends on your crystal spawn chance

[night oracle]

268

[royal schooner]

i got like +170%

prolly more

[night oracle]

Also, with this said, the longer your duration, the shorter time for effective stacking you get

[indigo stratus]

One in 2k is without shrines/cards/talent/stamp. Can easily get it to 1 in 100, much lower later

[royal schooner]

aigh

[indigo stratus]

My orb doesnt immediately recast on CD, ngl. Think that was point of the ss ace sent

[night oracle]

Then why does mine?

[uneven obsidian]

cuz your ate the sweet spot for the cd

[night oracle]

When my duration was higher

It still recasted right away

[uneven obsidian]

how much higher of a duration ?

[night oracle]

148

[latent bramble]

That's probably why, 148 duration is in the 300 range i think

[hollow cave]

upon getting killroy prime is it generally advised to unlock the third battle ASAP?

[strange flare]

my game just crashed scrolling through bubbles

[uneven obsidian]

better than on an abom i guess

[strange flare]

true

[indigo stratus]

I prefer clicking gem shop instead of afk info while on abos. Then it hurts twice as much

[night oracle]

Mobile struggles fr fr

[strange flare]

wtf my game crashes again

[night oracle]

So what you're saying is that after a certain point you won't be overlapping as much anymore

[uneven obsidian]

my orb last 186sec at 392 pts

[sharp fossil]

World 3 quests are so annoying 😭

[night oracle]

How long does it overlap on auto?

[sharp fossil]

Nvm Yondergreen, the odd dmg quest is destroying me

[indigo stratus]

Do it on TD

[sharp fossil]

Omg

I never thought of that. Tytyty

[strange flare]

OMFG I have to do my hourly alch clicks for the THIRD time now

anotha one

[uneven obsidian]

id say about 5sec

[inner egret]

just always max the orb, even in the small range where it is worse, it's tiny bit worse, and maxing it is massively better with higher talents, it really doesn't matter enough to bother with for the short period of time new players spend in that talentrange

[night oracle]

Then it could be because my max duration is at a point where I have less time to stack, because my stacks are like 30-50 lower when I max my orb

[latent bramble]

No, the overlap should still be the same, the extra duration before you hit the overlap should be still worth it. At 148 sec vs 137 sec the "extra duration" you were getting on orb was equal to, roughly, the overlap duration

But with how orb affects drops, we prioritize higher orb count, so even with the double resets it should be worth it. I'm doing a second run now to show some numbers

[night oracle]

I see

So it's just that there's a small dead spot which is stupid

[uneven obsidian]

its the same for all the talent with a count like that

its just more obvious on orb becasue it start with a longer cd than its duration

[night oracle]

My portal gets nowhere near the time of overlapping...

And with portal I'd be happy because usually around the end of duration I can't kill anymore anyway

[native otter]

any tips for construction?

[night oracle]

Focus on xp gain

That was some nice autocorrect

[latent bramble]

I guess I could test at 300 duration too, but here you go

[night oracle]

Only DKs on the board, rest making cogs

[night oracle]

Interesting

I guess the thing I missed is that the overlap time doesn't increase if your duration increases (which I thought it did)

[latent bramble]

Fair enough, there's literally no indication of it anywhere in game

[uneven obsidian]

i think it used to, but at some point lava fixed it

[latent bramble]

idek if we have that on the wiki

[uneven obsidian]

with us getting higher max talent cap and all

[latent bramble]

pretty sure it used to refresh with 5s remaining on buff, guess I should time my orb to see

[night oracle]

Also I wish my rates were like this....

[uneven obsidian]

ace probably got like 100+ dr so that helps a bit

[indigo stratus]

Don't we all, except those with higher DR

[night oracle]

Yeah... I only got 28.76x

[latent bramble]

110

[night oracle]

I got sleep deprivation though :)

[uneven obsidian]

28 used to be decent, well before this year pretty much lol

[night oracle]

I started like two months ago 😭

[uneven obsidian]

feel like dr cap tripled since jan

[night oracle]

I don't even know what I can get to increase my dr other than going to gs

[latent bramble]

yeah, seems like it's still resetting 5 seconds before the buff expires so

[ionic delta]

is there a specific combo for the wave 115 with 4 pets equinox dream? i tried using both of the 4 pet metas with 130k power pets and it doesnt seem possible, im just getting to 90s

[night oracle]

I see

[indigo stratus]

Getting pristine charm and plunder kills

[latent bramble]

https://i.imgur.com/AWLOgUe.png

[ionic delta]

ooh, thanks!

[night oracle]

Still no master floors because rift progress
And I guess I could get my plunder kills up by one power

[indigo stratus]

Eventually gcakes both 10k and 100k on beanstalk and another 100k on characters, but with active classes... not as much time to do that now

[uneven obsidian]

dr breakdown

[indigo stratus]

Hole gives decent dr too, especially with multis

[night oracle]

I can't check what I have rn because the mobile site is wack :/

I try to focus DR on wisdom, except if there's monument afk

[sharp fossil]

Got it done!

[latent bramble]

c15 is the big DR jump from hole

[indigo stratus]

Yeah golem DR go brrrr

[night jacinth]

Anyone have a link to rift unlocks?

[sharp fossil]

Now I'm stuck on the coin quest. I walk over it, it enters inventory, and... Nothing? On previous characters, the coin would run away...

[full beacon]

dang it's actually kinda hard to get to tremor wurms on spdrun

was gonna sample it

[thin wind]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Rift you mean like this?

[latent bramble]

What do you know, the 300 orb level is actually worse than the 267/8
-# just like they mathed earlier

[night oracle]

Damn

[indigo stratus]

Which quest?

[night oracle]

That's all my DR

[night oracle]

Disable auto loot

[indigo stratus]

Yeah if its that one disable auto loot and filter all drops

[sharp fossil]

There's no other drops

[thin wind]

well it looks like your orb counts on the 267 were slightly higher so somehow you were getting more kills before right?

[night oracle]

I think it might be the one at sand castles?

[sharp fossil]

Bill's Coin Shenanigans

[indigo stratus]

Ah I was thinking penguin quest

[sharp fossil]

I've never had a problem with this quest, before

[night oracle]

Oh I haven't done that one

[sharp fossil]

The coin is supposed to run away, but instead, it just immediately goes into invent

And I don't get the quest done

[night oracle]

Maybe try to disable auto loot if you haven't yet

[latent bramble]

It's possible since it was only a single 10 minute test, but I'm leaning more towards the duration difference not outweighing the overlap like mentioned here #midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message

[sharp fossil]

Nope, it's just broken

[night oracle]

Damn

[sharp fossil]

Tried forfeiting multiple times, tried restarting game, tried turning off auto loot, but it's supposed to go into invent, eventually

[night oracle]

Hmmm

[indigo stratus]

Been too many years to remember the quest but...

[sharp fossil]

If auto loot is off, it just keeps jumping around, forever

[uneven obsidian]

wouldnt be the first coin related quest that bug

[thin wind]

it's all very interesting. But I just woke up from one of those accidental naps so this is too much for my brain. Very good work, small sample sizes can be hard to work with.

[native otter]

for me i just started killing al, the mushrooms nearby, (from previous quest) and picking up their coins also worked

idk if that was a bug

[latent bramble]

oh that wasn't me, bunch of endgame folks who talked/argued with folks for a while before finally making big writeups

[thin wind]

makes sense

[uneven obsidian]

leave it to endgamer to write essays on game mechanics XD

[night oracle]

I'm not endgame, I'm just an idiot :)

[thin wind]

almost there

[latent bramble]

most of it is necessary since lava either doesn't explain it, doesn't understand it correctly, or doesn't have space in-game to write it

[thin wind]

9k more bullseye statue

[night oracle]

Lvl0??

[native otter]

WHAT ALL ARE PURE ONYX

[latent bramble]

some of it also gets passed around via other channels incorrectly or half-correctly

[serene orbit]

i just went to sample, but i forgot the portal wasn't open. so i started grinding for the portal with my midnight cookie equipped

[thin wind]

too lazy

[night oracle]

But like
Deposit some

[serene orbit]

at least it wasn't event food

[night oracle]

😭

[thin wind]

hmmmm, tempting offer.

[uneven obsidian]

most of it is necessary since lava either doesn't explain it, doesn't understand it correctly, or doesn't have space in-game to write it
That part right there in bold officer.... XD

[thin wind]

this is my hoard from W3 onyx grind

[night oracle]

From arguing we learn more than the skill descriptions/lore

[sharp fossil]

I got a couple min afk gains and spliced it, and that coin got me the quest finished 😑 in case anyone else needs in the future

[night oracle]

Lol

Nice that you got it done though

[native otter]

my miner has been at iron for 360 days and still only has 19017 lumberbob, how to get faster

[uneven obsidian]

better dr

[thin wind]

that's crazy work tho

[latent bramble]

yeah just go smack some beans for a few minutes idgi?

[thin wind]

man having high DR sounds crazy

[sharp fossil]

I have another question... Are shrines broken in w5?

[thin wind]

I'm a little sad because I got 225 max talent level for vman after I was done with DK crystal grind. So didn't get to test out the amazing 20 second extra statue time.

[thin wind]

in what way do you mean broken? Like they don't work or they're too good?

[sharp fossil]

I have them in town, but my HP doesn't change when I change worlds?

[uneven obsidian]

the joy of high dr at beans

[latent bramble]

it's kind of stupid

[thin wind]

you probably have the artifact from sailing that has them active for everyone at all times. so it just doesn't look like it changes because it's always active.

[plain cliff]

What's the best spice combo for leek

[uneven obsidian]

yes beautifully so

[sharp fossil]

Oh... I'm way beginner at sailing

[latent bramble]

it's one of the first island artifacts

[thin wind]

it's first artifact you can get basically

[sharp fossil]

Oh, yup. That's the one. 😅 Sorry, thank you!

[thin wind]

no problem, happy to clear up some confusion

[sharp fossil]

I didn't want to try moving them

[thin wind]

yeah losing progress and time sucks.

[sharp fossil]

Another reason Yondergreen sucks

[uneven obsidian]

once you get the upgrade for it in w6, moving them wont have a penalty anymore

[sharp fossil]

Ooh dang

Like, what the hell else do you do when you need like 45k hrs

[thin wind]

well luckily bravery and lab jail exist so it gets easier even if you can't move them

but yeah the jade upgrade is a game changer

[uneven obsidian]

mine been in w5 ever since lava added hole

[opal goblet]

when should i try to get more point on death note ?

[uneven obsidian]

when working on zow/chow/schow for bb

[sharp fossil]

I have one char who could go to w6 atm, but I was more interested in worms

[uneven obsidian]

as long as you unlocked w6 for the skill

[sharp fossil]

I have not

[uneven obsidian]

should do since they are time gated

at least they all are town skill

[sharp fossil]

Isn't everything in this game?! 😭

[uneven obsidian]

yeah but not super rng gated this time around

[sharp fossil]

Trauling for decent captains sucks

[robust rover]

@opal goblet gain more kill monster pass 25k gain 1 point 10pk receive point most

[uneven obsidian]

so yeah if you can kill kruk you should do it just for the unlock, then go back and farm other stuff you skipped

[sharp fossil]

I haven't tried, yet. Is he hard?

[uneven obsidian]

whats your highest dmg

[sharp fossil]

Err... Ts, maybe?

[uneven obsidian]

sheet dmg ?

[sharp fossil]

Yeah, think so

[uneven obsidian]

if thats the case then you good

[sharp fossil]

Okay, I'm gonna go do it!

Thanks!

[uneven obsidian]

let us know how many hit it takes

[sharp fossil]

I'm dumb, not Ts. 2 auto attacks

Bs

[uneven obsidian]

yeah genrally we says like 30m for like es, 50m for dk, and 80m for the rest XD

[sharp fossil]

Ohhh :x I just recently came back after a couple years with a decent amount of idle gains

Which is nothing compared to the crazy gains that are possible now

[indigo stratus]

2 auto attacks is 1 too many grats on getting to w6 tho

[sharp fossil]

All of the weird bonuses everywhere

[uneven obsidian]

go do the w6 town quest to unlock hte new skills and you'll be fine with going back to work on other stuff if you want

[sharp fossil]

It was almost 1, just a bit to go 😅

Will do, thanks much!

[indigo stratus]

Yeah, the w6 skills are heavily timegated. Also, get your bb master class and ww

Mainly db for them charred bones

[uneven obsidian]

if you're bb got the dmg for it, you can try to push it to the master class guy so it can also unlock afk bones

i'd do ww simply to get the sneaking boosting talent for now

[indigo stratus]

Agreed, could probably skip to m2 in no time with that

[uneven obsidian]

it boost sneaking just a bit

and that with only 1(99) pt in the talent for sneaking exp

[pulsar girder]

i just barely reached the 2x vial node in the lab, hell yeah

big gains. vials are giving me a lot

[uneven obsidian]

its a nice one for sure

[full beacon]

esp with vial mastery thing from rift

goes ham

[pulsar girder]

the who what

oh that shit is soooo out of reach haha

but for now this was big

[fair sonnet]

what some of the ways to decrease meal recipe time

[full beacon]

upgrade the table with spice, usually only use table 1 for recipes

some meals give bonus for that too iirc

[fair sonnet]

thanks

[full beacon]

oh if you have bb you can do the taste test talent too

[empty seal]

how does essence transferral work tried to set it up today but can't see lab xp going to a different character?

[full beacon]

that will let you attempt to discover without dropping a fire rank

[full beacon]

login to that char maybe?

[craggy oxide]

it'll show up when you log on to the character that receives it

log onto your bubo first and then the one with the lowest lab level

[empty seal]

do they have to be in the lab?

[full beacon]

you might need to go touch and get into lab at least once to "activate" the skill

a few of the skills work like that

[craggy oxide]

dont' think so, but when I tried to check my lowest level lab person was in a tube

so I can't answer definitively right now

[warm grove]

it always goes to the lowest lab lvl'd character, but you need to claim the afk gains on that lowest character to get it

[empty seal]

thank you all for the responses

[craggy oxide]

Am I completely misremembering or was there something about crafted gear and an extra slot?

[warm grove]

no that is true, on archers in the second tab there's a talent that can enable that to happen

[craggy oxide]

did Godly creation always do that?

[warm grove]

well I don't know about always, but at least like a year

[limpid bough]

why is it best to leave redox salts always on 0? I need red salts like now..

[warm grove]

because you always rank up and it always gets faster each rankup

[craggy oxide]

you awnt it to hit full and rank up

[warm grove]

so if you delay the rankups you make less salt in the same time as if you waited

[craggy oxide]

since printing mush and copper is very doable

[limpid bough]

I think I messed up ranking my orange salt then, idk if it can run for that long

8 red per cycle

my red is rank 4 going on 5

[warm grove]

well if you view the ranks of your salts look at the power of your redox vs the cost of red salts in explosive combustion

[limpid bough]

also ES is a LOT better for base mats than I thought this is crazy

[warm grove]

power of redox should be higher than explosive, only rank up explosive if it uses less than the redox power in its costs

[limpid bough]

yeah mine is lower

[warm grove]

so just don't rank up explosive for a while

[craggy oxide]

you want "Component Costs" (the one under rank) To be less than the "Power per cycle" (last entry on the previous box)

[limpid bough]

alrighty

[full beacon]

it's a PO box not archer talent

archer talent just has a chance of adding some free stats

which if I'm being honest, I don't think I've ever seen that one proc

[craggy oxide]

aha! thank you

[warm grove]

really?

[full beacon]

I have seen the extra slot proc though

[warm grove]

oh I suppose the smithing box yeah, also the extra stats one procs quite often

1/3 chance about so I believe

[full beacon]

bad rng I guess

just like my 77% vman sample being single proc every single day

[warm grove]

yeah I got it on both of my opals'

[warm grove]

so real

ah yeah it was the box, I just had this one maxed on my archers for almost 2 years so I forgot about it

[limpid bough]

is there a way to get post office resets outside of the gem shop?

[warm grove]

i've gotten one ever, its better to simply get more boxes to spend

[limpid bough]

I thought post office was global so my main has a bunch of random ones

[warm grove]

well it's fine, you max all of the boxes out anyways

[full beacon]

yea I've only gotten the one, forget where from, prob a quest

but you'll max them pretty quickly

[indigo stratus]

Rei, you know if on bravery can you only get 6 bonuses per run? Or do any that aren't listed still get applied?

[warm grove]

the ones that aren't in the drop down you still get, not sure how it is sorted but you will gain those even if they don't show

you can get all of the bonuses in a run and it just won't visibly show them all

[indigo stratus]

Sweet. Even though my first 24k run got to 48 and no monument afk or multi

[warm grove]

dang that's definitely quite unlucky

well the multi you had a low chance to get but monument afk should have shown up a few times

[indigo stratus]

Indeed, the multi i wasn't counting on, but at least monument afk

Need to get it to 1000%, only at 817% rn

[warm grove]

nice, you have the minceraft collectable?

I have yet to unlock it and my unlock chance is now 0.01%

[indigo stratus]

Yep, and rose, my collect chance at .01% too

[serene orbit]

is there a guide for dungeon credits and flurbos?

[warm grove]

no real need for a guide, spend them however you like, you get plenty of each

[indigo stratus]

You do wanna get Rex rings fairly early tho, and upgrade, for sampling

[orchid matrix]

action frenzy is pretty good for sampling too but it is somewhat expensive to get, takes a bit and is rng

[limpid bough]

are sanic rings worth going for

[warm grove]

no not really they suck, all they are is +1 slab

[fiery fjord]

what is the "minigame reward multi: 1.00x" in my worship tab? can i increase that?

[limpid bough]

but but 1% move speed 🥺

[warm grove]

Lmao, use speed potions from shops

[warm grove]

also not certain where you get it from because mine is only 1.48, but it could be apart of the mage kit

[fiery fjord]

?

[warm grove]

Like it could be a talent, but don’t worry about it at all

[lilac fjord]

can someone explain to me why I have no afk gains after 18+ hours?

[midnight leaf]

What does it says under afk info?

[indigo stratus]

Are you on skilling preset?

[night oracle]

From 2,5 ish hours

Maybe 3

[lilac fjord]

yes I was 🙂 🔫 (ty)

[thin wind]

book statue takes so long for onyx 😭

[honest cradle]

How does this work? What is that 156 number?

[red compass]

read fam

from hounds

[thin wind]

156 is the amount of kills you got on your warrior class in the hounds area. so you need to do some on archer, mage and beginner to get your best bucket fill rate bonus.

[honest cradle]

thats 15k hounds killed? in a run? All time?

[thin wind]

no, 156 hounds

[honest cradle]

ok its straight amount cool thanks

[thin wind]

it's saying that each 100 hounds you kill in the den you'll get 10 bucket fill rate

[honest cradle]

I can finally make this glove too

[limpid bough]

is the multikill pendant worth it?

[honest cradle]

I got it for my db and vman

[thin wind]

are you talking about gem shop one or flurbo shop?

[limpid bough]

flurbo

[warm grove]

it's good but you probably want the divine scarf more

[indigo stratus]

Isn't flurbo just straight mk and not mkpt?

[warm grove]

but obv early on its good

wait is it?

[thin wind]

yeah doesn't say per tier, so damage might just be better right?

[warm grove]

damn, I mean really early on it might be good, but other than that nah

[honest cradle]

caustic scarf vs mopb respawn neck from flurbo?

OIn my vman

[warm grove]

what's the flurbos stats?

[warm grove]

I suppose use that over caustic scarf, but try getting the divine scarf asap

it's 20%

and not that hard either to get

hardest part is a strung tooth of the divine

[honest cradle]

the strung tooth is annoying

havent gotten one yet

[warm grove]

you got a few thousand W5 keys yet?

[honest cradle]

I used some up while ago getting cards, I am at 76

[warm grove]

damn, gotta get back at that bubo farm or maybe slap db into those last 3 maps

[indigo stratus]

Can't wait til I can sit my db on wurms for the few minutes it takes to use my charred bones

[thin wind]

wwhat's best difficulty to try to farm it on?

Or is it more of a if you have plenty of keys do hardest, minimal keys do easier.

[warm grove]

well it's most efficient to do it on the lowest difficulty in terms of keys, but the keys are plentiful enough that you should do it on the highest difficulty

40x faster that way

[thin wind]

yeah I should set up active bubo again to farm more keys

Finally got max liquidvestment too so it's going to go crazy

[swift parcel]

What level do I need Tenteyecle at to get my Bubo online?

[honest cradle]

how does defense work, is it real complicated to know how much defense I need for x damage

[thin wind]

200, this is so it gives an extra second to cooldown

[swift parcel]

oh, that low?! okay dang I can do that

[indigo stratus]

400 gives another extra second

[frail ember]

where pet arena setups

[indigo stratus]

But thats bit of struggle, ngl

[thin wind]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

This has some of them in the pets section. there's also one in tips and tricks

[frail ember]

thanks

[thin wind]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1084967526955499600
this is the tips and tricks one

got my max book through rng

[honest cradle]

ww or siegebreaker for better mobbing

Prob ww for mobing huh

[indigo stratus]

Ww or sb for what

[worn raptor]

killroy oc

[warm grove]

just generally killing would be ww but you usually use one or the other for something

[hexed ridge]

it's the scarf but don't forget to do your colosseum too

[worn raptor]

if he need choose between both, probably is for killroy

[honest cradle]

I am setting some dawg den numbers

[hexed ridge]

do you have any colo keys to roll on w5 colo golden?

[worn raptor]

i like more ww cuz ballista + ww ballista extra ballistas

[honest cradle]

yes

[hexed ridge]

roll up that DR and ship it

get that divine scarf 👑

[honest cradle]

I really need to book commandments

[indigo stratus]

WW goat for kilroy, for dawg I'd do WW too, for gloomies probably sb to grind plunderous, and golems definitely sb bc plunderous give crazy torches

[honest cradle]

lol my vman hit 66

That is significanlty worse

well bfr upo 800

[thin wind]

modifiers don't matter for the kill count from schematics so don't have any if you do have some on.

[honest cradle]

Hopefully that helps grow cave

Eh just acc, so doesnt really matter

I Def need to use keys to finish nightmare ama card

O another double cloud captain

I am tempted chat

[warm grove]

did you have a specific reason to know this or just in general?

[honest cradle]

Was deciding dawg den modifiers, I just used trial and error

[warm grove]

ah, well taking 0 dmg in dawg den doesn't matter, as long as you don't die with food it's all good

but if you were curious as to the formula anyways I got it from the wiki and it is Damage Taken = floor(0.6 + (Attack - 2.5 * Defense ^ 0.8) / (1 + Defense ^ 2.5 / Attack / 100))

[indigo stratus]

hey how do you get a penta cog?

[warm grove]

not sure if you can actually get those in game yet, but if you can you gotte be a damn high construction lvl i'd imagine, over 1000 at least

[white lintel]

Just gotta get lucky I think

[warm grove]

you get one yet arctis?

[white lintel]

Lemme check wiki

I don’t do much cog clicking

[indigo stratus]

im level 777 for it and the most i got was a 3

[white lintel]

Pancake’s sheet called me a bum

So been working on it

?wiki construction

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/construction

[warm grove]

lmao yeah my construction ain't great either, barely over minimum efort

been moreso locked in on doing more PO orders

[indigo stratus]

what sheet?

[white lintel]

Don’t have it on hand

Look up board judger in the disc and you’ll find it

[white lintel]

How’s that going

[warm grove]

well to be honest it sucks and I had like 65k pens to spend but at least I am true max for PO on autoreview

[white lintel]

My touch screen saved my life with that

Made it super manageable

[warm grove]

yeah sometimes I do it on my phone, sometimes on my computer just because I can

[indigo stratus]

It'd be nice to have PO box QoL update to be able to have em reset when purchasing

[warm grove]

usually all on my computer I would say actually, less than a few thousand have been filled out on mobile

[white lintel]

Mobile has too small of space to hit with my fingers so I didn’t do that

[indigo stratus]

Just like the break all on jars, find myself changing jars when im trying to break

[wraith wedge]

guys how do i get more xp per cog i see some people they get like 200% xp per cog

[indigo stratus]

Higher construction level

[wraith wedge]

ohh do i have to make cogs on the account thats the highest lvl or it doesnt matter?

[white lintel]

Doesn’t matter

[indigo stratus]

Doesn't matter

[wraith wedge]

oh okay

[white lintel]

Jinx

[warm grove]

now you gotta do 10k PO orders

[white lintel]

Huh?

[warm grove]

also my rewards so far

[indigo stratus]

I'd rather fail another several inventory of ww upgrades than do 10k PO boxes

[warm grove]

matter of fact I ran out of copper bars to fill with

and oak logs??? damn

I gotta resume later I guess

[indigo stratus]

But... my point stands, need an option to auto reset PO after you fill the request

[warm grove]

true, just a button that resets then automatically after filling one

[indigo stratus]

Or toggle

Could just spam fill em

[white lintel]

Hold up

Why’d you have 50kv

[warm grove]

50kv?

[white lintel]

Ignore the v

[warm grove]

50k pens or 50k orders filled?

[white lintel]

Orders

[indigo stratus]

50k streak

[white lintel]

Shouldn’t you be done?

[warm grove]

I dunno? I filled them out

yeah im done as of a while ago

[white lintel]

Ok

[warm grove]

I do it for the love of the game Arcits

[white lintel]

[warm grove]

you wouldn't understand

also almost have full godshard gear for all my guys, and all skills to lvl 100 too, just 2 more guys, and obv the traps and skulls

[indigo stratus]

GS traps the bane of my existence. Skulls not bad

[warm grove]

yeah, skulls are getting there soon enough, easy even when I redo TD

nice, archers got that good speed now

[white lintel]

What should I get my hammer hammer up to?

[warm grove]

I dunno, 2k?

[white lintel]

Uh

[warm grove]

that's 200 higher than me rn

[rain tiger]

What's the best method of increasing accuracy cards/ Alchemy/ base stats / gear? Just unlocked elite classes

[white lintel]

It’s at 3k rn

[warm grove]

using substat upgrades on gear so using the W4 upgrade stones on your gear on a different class and dungeons

[white lintel]

Use w4+ stones on an different character to get secondary stat based armor for more accuracy. Eg. Stone your DK’s armor with a mage to get wis based armor

[warm grove]

until you can hourly click luck bubble on an archer

[rain tiger]

Also should I be printing refinery mats mainly at this stage?

[warm grove]

yeah just about so

[white lintel]

Mmm ok

[rain tiger]

Yeah but stone sucess is low. Will take a few days to get all stats

[warm grove]

hey finally reached 200QQQ

almost making it to the armor on my SB

[white lintel]

That’s just how it be

[rain tiger]

Dungeons meaning fluorbo accuracy stat buying?

[white lintel]

Holy shit afk bones is so OP

[warm grove]

i've got like 200 hours saved up rn, gonna go insane mode

[white lintel]

I had 300+

Just popped 25 hours and I was blown away how how much I can do with it

I need 2000 more upgrades

[warm grove]

for the talent points?

[white lintel]

Ye

[rain tiger]

Is amarok gear ok at this stage or do I need upgrades

[warm grove]

that will be busted

amarok is fine if you use W4 stones

[white lintel]

Amarok is good for a long long time

If you use the highest world stones

[rain tiger]

Cool

[warm grove]

Chizoar gear my goat

[indigo stratus]

Indeed, I used 320 and got within 187 of talent levels.

[white lintel]

Where did you start from?

[warm grove]

yay god rank 2, lets go

seems a little low for my stage but at least I am doing it I suppose

[white lintel]

My old rates was 600M ribs per hour, with afk it was 11B per hour

[warm grove]

yeah because you spend that whole hour at the peak of those bones gains, it's amazing

[white lintel]

They don’t matter too too much tho so it ain’t the biggest deal

[warm grove]

fair, just doing it on my 10th char which is a bubo so he uses goharut

[white lintel]

No doot?

[warm grove]

no lmao, I don't think i'll get doot for another 2 years

[indigo stratus]

Uhhh, I was mid w5. Got writhing and now can do woodlin

[warm grove]

shame too because I could trade a deer for one but everyone else wants to do that too

[rain tiger]

Which character should I active in world 4 ?

[warm grove]

dk or es

[rain tiger]

Reasons please ?

[indigo stratus]

But the scaling isn't great, my upgrades rn cost 20-30B per.

[warm grove]

both have very good respawn talents while active, I prefer es for the easy stat requirements over dk though

[rain tiger]

I read about crystal farming on dk - not sure when and why it will be important

[wraith wedge]

guys does the BB chows need to be done on BB?

[warm grove]

much later and for rare drops

[rain tiger]

How about bubo active for Alchemy? Does it make a big difference?

[rain tiger]

Got it

[warm grove]

eventually, without lvl 200 tenteyecle it is somewhat slow

[indigo stratus]

Yes, it will matter

[white lintel]

Crystals drop statues and gold food, both very important

[indigo stratus]

But w/ one bubo your cd on cc will be very slow til later

[rain tiger]

I have rift slug so can try to get to 150 at least

[wraith wedge]

guys why do they say that BB has most afk gains

[rain tiger]

Is two bubos the meta ? I read 2 es 2 dk 2 sb

[warm grove]

wow this guys' skills really suck

[white lintel]

200 specifically is the breakpoint bc it adds a second of CDR to tenteyecle, going from 2 to 3 seconds iirc

[warm grove]

because of its talents and general kit

[wraith wedge]

but i dont see anything on the talents

[white lintel]

It’s talents are it’s kit?

[indigo stratus]

2 bubo isn't meta, 2 es is. I have 2 bubo bc i had 2 shaman before w4.

[white lintel]

Kpk talent

[warm grove]

yeah basically

[wraith wedge]

kpk?

[white lintel]

And also active talents affect afk gains or something like that

[warm grove]

kill per kill

[rain tiger]

I guess that's for later worlds

[white lintel]

For all worlds, done mid w6 ish

[rain tiger]

Got it

Then I guess I'll active es in w4. Most immediate use maybe

[indigo stratus]

You'll wanna wiki choco chip and get that ASAP. Each crystal spawn worth 4x roughly

[rain tiger]

Noted , thanks

[warm grove]

never realized that skill lvls have a fair impact on skill efficiency even without class specific talents

getting like 1/200th efficiency per level on my catching on bubo, adds up over a lot of lvls

[rain tiger]

Should I only refine at max power? Early on at least it makes me run out of higher salts if I wait

[white lintel]

[white lintel]

Red and green always rank up

Rest can be leveled according to red and green levels

[rain tiger]

Got red salt to 4 and orange to two atm

[indigo stratus]

You want your red salts per refine higher than what your orange need per cycle

[rain tiger]

To unlock blue I will need to refine red before max power

[rain tiger]

Makes sense. But then red needs to be one cycle ahead I guess

[indigo stratus]

Not one cycle ahead, just follow what arctis sent

[rain tiger]

Cool

[white lintel]

Just got anihilations :D

[indigo stratus]

Oh man, getting those from w1 to w6 was annoying, ngl

[white lintel]

Yea, this is taking a while

[indigo stratus]

They're fairly quick, just... spending that much time going back thru

[warm grove]

finally got 250 total opals

[indigo stratus]

Once you reach writhing your acc will skyrocket, and its way easier to max than I thought

[white lintel]

Oh wonderful, looking forward to that

I forgot how fun active DB was

[indigo stratus]

Its fun bc you don't have to spend 10hrs placing gravestone to progress now

[white lintel]

Well I don’t even mean the grim, just watching my DB spawn kill the map with explosions just feels great

[golden field]

When would be a good time to grind monument AFK hours?

[warm grove]

you kill on the purgatory stalker map yet?

[white lintel]

Mid w6

[indigo stratus]

When youre done with lab and divinity, and have db and ww master classes

[white lintel]

Wdym, I haven’t gotten there with Anihils yet no

[warm grove]

it's the most fun absolutely crushing out graveyards there in less than half a second

[white lintel]

I was at stalkers before afk bones dropped

[golden field]

How done? Lab Total 2100?

[warm grove]

have you seen the grave placement where they all spawn in one spot?

dang

[white lintel]

Yea ik about that spot lol

[warm grove]

that's my favorite thing about db

[hazy robin]

im in w5 and still stuck on crabs, am i just really unlucky?

[indigo stratus]

Depends on monument progress, but prob not 2100

[white lintel]

Crabs in w5?

[hazy robin]

as in trapping :(

[white lintel]

Bruh

Go fix your shit brother

[warm grove]

20 minute traps to get shinies

[golden field]

Well, currently on Lab 1000, unlocked Flutterbis and all toons are on TranQi.

By this point, how many hours should one have?

[warm grove]

make silkskin when you can

[indigo stratus]

Ngl, those w5 spots are probably what you'll be grinding til woodlin

[hazy robin]

...and literally as im typing i get a shiny.

[white lintel]

W5 takes a long time to get out

[hazy robin]

wtf

[indigo stratus]

Should have pushed divinity til goat to get lab and divinity at same time

[rain tiger]

What should I spend blue dungeon currency on ? Are the jewellery items in fluorbo beyond 2 worth the expense?

[golden field]

Flutterbis is way after Goharut, though?

[white lintel]

Omni is also very important too

[craggy oxide]

didn't realise how important omni was until hole gave that extra link

[warm grove]

true

[indigo stratus]

W5 takes forever on db to get out. I used 320 bones when I was mid w5 and barely got to w6... and the gains weren't any better, except woodlin

[hazy robin]

...ok why is scorpion shiny chance 40% higher than crabs. actually what.

[honest cradle]

oooo I got the efaunt skill eff wings

Is that bis for printing?

[craggy oxide]

maybe you should put your hunter in the best efficiency gear and set your traps again

[white lintel]

No

[white lintel]

Rimless cape

Timeless*

[sharp fossil]

I got to w6 and am timelocked again 😅

And so, so confused

[warm grove]

hold up farming is pretty fun right now, my crops grow in good time and I can stack them all to 100k for the bonuses? amazing

[honest cradle]

the watch?

[white lintel]

The farming snowball is one of the most fun

Especially since it’s in tandem with instant gaming

[honest cradle]

well that makes it less exciting but that is the go to for f2p?

[white lintel]

Either efuant or star rose

[sharp fossil]

Is 7 days the best to wait for slush farming?

[white lintel]

Think so

[indigo stratus]

Mine is at the point they grow quick, but can't get further glassy

[warm grove]

damn, 1.5 seconds

what do you even do at that point? farm magic bean trades?

I am happy with even sub 1 minute on the basic crop

gonna finally do another speedrun on vman, was supposed to do another one like a week ago and then things happened

[white lintel]

I struggle to actually do speedruns

[warm grove]

what reason, the setup?

[white lintel]

Yea, too lazy to swap over gear

And no real reason to do more

[near magnet]

Is the droprate on Chizoar's Blankie for Chaotic Chizoar actually 1/72 at base or is the game telling a little white lie to me? Even with ~6x-8.37x droprate, I feel like I shouldn't have gotten one every single kill by any means (admittedly only 4 kills, but, still, that feels... unlikely.)

Disclaimer: if the answer here is 'that's completely likely and normal with that droprate and you just have no sense of scale / you did your first Chaotic Chizoar kill really goddamn late' I'm very happy to hear it, I've just read people going THIS THING NEVER DROPS often enough it haunts me

[white lintel]

Bosses have multiple drop instances

[warm grove]

I mean you were a little lucky but yeah you can try for the drop multiple times

I got 2 of the kruk wings in one fight last night

[near magnet]

This makes sense

[white lintel]

(Your blankie farming is also really late)

If that’s your first

[near magnet]

This wasn't even farming lmao, this was just me doing it for the Chizoar achievements. I am very, very slow when it comes to doing bosses.

By the time I actually got to basic Kruk for the first time I think I had like. 3x the recommended min. damage on ES for that? I'm really slow.

[wispy pecan]

Hey guys I defeated the boss and can go to w5 rn but should I get void gear before ?

[white lintel]

Go w5

[warm grove]

void gear isn't really needed

[wispy pecan]

Ok

[white lintel]

Amarok or dem is fine

[wispy pecan]

I have dem

And void on 3 characters

[white lintel]

Hey fish are you busy?

[warm grove]

damn my vman is decked out aside from not having gshard gloves or traps, he's ready for the speedrun

not really no

waiting for fireflies to print to finish my gs boots for 10th char

[white lintel]

Wanna do something for me?

[warm grove]

sure

[white lintel]

Can you test the limit of amarok vs dem armor with different world stones for which is better for w6 and w5?

[craggy oxide]

after unlocking the afk bones in DB if I park him in the kitchen, will he still generate charred bones?

[white lintel]

No

[warm grove]

sure, so just the stones on the armor for each? so 4 sets, 2 W5 and 2 W6?

[white lintel]

Only fighting afk gains give afk bones

[craggy oxide]

ahh okay

[white lintel]

And it’s rounded down on the hour so 45 mins gives no afk bone

[white lintel]

Yes please

[warm grove]

easy enough

damn my game whitescreened, lava is trying to stop me

[white lintel]

Damn

[warm grove]

it seems closer than you would think though let me log back in and make sure no variables were introduced via the PO box +1 upgrade slot

[white lintel]

For w4 dem seems better but I ran out of stones