midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[native trail]

no rubifiers in stock

[merry halo]

easy signs

[mossy anvil]

ik

[warm grove]

nice I farmed 2.5 million statues last night

[mossy anvil]

thats alot

[warm grove]

it's a few to add to the collection

[merry halo]

damm

i get like 500k overall in one night

[warm grove]

I got like 50 dr and my dk can get an orb of close to 800

[thorny zinc]

got to 160

[warm grove]

nice

[merry halo]

it all about the cooking

[thorny zinc]

real

[merry halo]

800 lvls? do you hit the 2 drop chance

[warm grove]

no, score on it when placed

[merry halo]

damm

[warm grove]

it's just under 400 lvls

well lava fixed the way the 2 drops works so I wil always hit it after a while but it's only 5 seconds before my current orb is gone

[merry halo]

that nice the only thing that holding me is the black chips

[warm grove]

the doublers? even without them it's not that hard to get a really high crystal chance now

[merry halo]

yea but it will give me that 1/20 chance

[warm grove]

alright i'm ready for hundreds of gems to fly up

[native trail]

man how the hell am i going to gey this ive been trying for ages

[mossy anvil]

whats the chance

[warm grove]

100%

[mossy anvil]

candy

[warm grove]

oh my

[merry halo]

recipe

[native trail]

i wasted almost 400H

[merry halo]

what you exp gain

[mossy anvil]

ah u were enchanting not unlocking

[warm grove]

in the hole?

[mossy anvil]

k/h?

[warm grove]

enchanting so I can unlock faster

[mint rivet]

this absolutely sucks

unless

you don't have either of the important ones

[warm grove]

I don't

[merry halo]

the jar was too op back in the days

[mint rivet]

only close to release

[merry halo]

yea i saw a video someone useing it and it was nasty

[mossy anvil]

take prayer off

[mint rivet]

[warm grove]

yeah take off fibers

[mossy anvil]

before candying

[native trail]

okay

[merry halo]

your multi kill is trash no hate

[mint rivet]

unique level

[mint rivet]

I see a knowledge issue

[native trail]

huh

[mint rivet]

here too

[warm grove]

midas???

[native trail]

lemme take it then

[warm grove]

why do you have midas on if you want kills?

[mossy anvil]

it dropped his kills lol

[mint rivet]

buddy is using midas/fibers as if he can hit max mk tier

[warm grove]

it's like a 30/70 depending on how far you are in the current tier

[native trail]

yh better

[mint rivet]

i still see a knowledge issue

[merry halo]

what about sailling and hole?

[warm grove]

or a prayer issue

[native trail]

a what

[native trail]

?

[mossy anvil]

now equip prayer

[mint rivet]

🧠

[native trail]

fibers ok

[merry halo]

if you want multi kill/kills

[vernal geyser]

This isn’t a test

[native trail]

LMAO

[mossy anvil]

......

[mossy anvil]

@native trail

[mint rivet]

wdym

[warm grove]

no, take off fibers put on balance of pain

[merry halo]

oh nvm

[native trail]

i don’t have that prayer which td?

[compact pagoda]

[mint rivet]

neglecter

[compact pagoda]

i see a shadow

[mossy anvil]

lmao

[merry halo]

w4

[compact pagoda]

[warm grove]

clash of cans early on wave

[native trail]

Ah easy

[merry halo]

no i thought it cards

[merry halo]

go pump it up

[mint rivet]

zerg rushogen, beefy for real, balance of pain

[warm grove]

beefy is probably too hard to get for now though so it's understandable

[mint rivet]

beefy is out of your league so stick to first and last

[mossy anvil]

i dont have zerg yet but fixing td is 1st on the list rn

[native trail]

Okay i’ll start this clash of cans lmao wish me luck

[merry halo]

get your carnoli up

[native trail]

oki

[merry halo]

at leat 1000% more td point

[native trail]

.

[mint rivet]

its time

[mossy anvil]

7

[native trail]

4

[warm grove]

13

[mint rivet]

present worked 3 times

i hope it works more than present

[native trail]

ok managed to get canoli 44%

[mint rivet]

[merry halo]

1

[mint rivet]

ur wrong

[merry halo]

you need to get ribbons

[thorny zinc]

2

[mint rivet]

you are wrong

[thorny zinc]

1.5

[merry halo]

6

[warm grove]

nah he will get 13 I can feel it

[mint rivet]

1 guess per person

[merry halo]

i can smell him getting 6

[thorny zinc]

i think next update will be released before me finishing this td

[merry halo]

isnt there going to be new best round becuse of the compas?

[mint rivet]

it was 3

NONE of you were right

[warm grove]

should have added an extra digit smh

[mint rivet]

6 guesses total

[thorny zinc]

it is already my record was 130

[mint rivet]

130 vman procs in a row wow

[brisk garnet]

Before I complain about it:
Is Chill Out Big Boy! 7 (kill Chaotic Chizoar without taking any damage) as bugged as I think it is? I've killed him about 7 times and took 0 damage in the fight 🤔

[thorny zinc]

😭

[merry halo]

no i mean the max wave will be even biger

[mint rivet]

though these 3 procs were a sweet 100 lvls total

[warm grove]

what's on the compass that helps td?

[thorny zinc]

is it?

[mint rivet]

you need to not get hit by a damaging hitbox (that damages those without enough def)

[merry halo]

more atoms lvl

[thorny zinc]

ohhhh

[mint rivet]

if a spike hits u but u take 0 dmg, it still counts as taking dmg

[merry halo]

like 20

[thorny zinc]

right

[mint rivet]

since you entered a dmging hitbox

[warm grove]

oh yeah, if you get the far I suppose yeah

[mint rivet]

exalted stamps

[warm grove]

I only remember 1 stamp that helps TD and it sucks

[brisk garnet]

Ah, so it's something quirky going on that I'm missing then? Is it without being hit or is it just without taking damage? 😆

[merry halo]

the compas got an upgrade that give more max atoms lvl

[mint rivet]

without being hit

game counts hits (if high enough def) as damage (Even if 0)

[merry halo]

that one

[brisk garnet]

Okay. Thanks.

[mint rivet]

np

[brisk garnet]

That's really dumb, but that solved it 😂
Thanks again.

[mint rivet]

np

[warm grove]

I see, only issue is that it will only help TD if your towers were max lvl before, which is impossible so far I believe for the most part

[merry halo]

what that mean?

[warm grove]

because the atom increases tower lvl max

[merry halo]

right and that can help with damge and spwan rate

[warm grove]

certainly, but it doesn't really help if you already couldn't reach the max

[mint rivet]

isn't this satisfying

[native forge]

not like you already around your max tower levels since gambit gives 100 and that's huge

[merry halo]

oh yea but it will help those who can

[mint rivet]

no ur wrong

[warm grove]

someone has max tower lvls you say?

[mossy anvil]

idk if its easiers to count sailings done or fps

[mint rivet]

are you talking about lvl 90 maxor higher

[merry halo]

is it harder by alot to get the 4th form of artifacet then the 3rd form?

[warm grove]

no like lvl 190 and above

[mint rivet]

it looks in game like it does in recording

not possible then

[warm grove]

exactly what i'm saying

[mint rivet]

i personally did not see u specify what max lvl

[warm grove]

I did not, but if we are talking about new max td then I feel like it was suggested

[thorny zinc]

Would be satisfying whith more than 10 fps

[native trail]

td isnt looking too good for me :c

[mossy anvil]

did u watch guide or are u winging it

[thorny zinc]

you dont want to do it

[mint rivet]

its not the fps problem, boats really are glitching out like that

[native trail]

im doiin a guide

[mossy anvil]

show me which one

[native trail]

im doing clash of clans lol

[thorny zinc]

use cinderbane guides

[thorny zinc]

im 1h in i think

nice

[merry halo]

someone about to reach wave 210

[thorny zinc]

subscribe and like the video

[native trail]

i think my towers are underleveled

[mossy anvil]

dont

[thorny zinc]

if i live until then probably

[merry halo]

do summoning and upgrade the bubble

[thorny zinc]

what is summoning

[native trail]

huh

[mint rivet]

i did that wit about lvl 90 towers

[native trail]

huh

[warm grove]

nah

[unreal leaf]

is there any way to fill up the bar faster?

[native trail]

which tower

[mossy anvil]

i did that without guide with boulder roller

[thorny zinc]

just stare at it

[warm grove]

all of them

[merry halo]

ayo no way your doing wava 170 and you not know what that it

[mint rivet]

all besides void

void was only 40 or so

[native trail]

Oh yeah my boulder roller is only 40

[mint rivet]

forget about wave 170

[native trail]

i only want the prayer

[thorny zinc]

i was joking ofc i know what summoning is

[mint rivet]

search for a setup using boulders

[thorny zinc]

its w4 mechanic with meals

[native trail]

ok i got it

[fresh cedar]

Is boulder level 6 any good

[mossy anvil]

so go with boulder coz its prob higher dmg than poison

[merry halo]

first do summoning for build rate and casue why not secondly upgrade the alchemy bubble then if you can buy the premuim cog and you done the best guide ever

[native trail]

only wave 20??

[thorny zinc]

yes

[native trail]

oh lame

[thorny zinc]

not at all

[mint rivet]

do not use boulders instead of poisonics in that guide

[native trail]

ill continue anyways

[warm grove]

you're done for

[native forge]

i didn't bought premium cogs yet

[native trail]

my poisonics are lv 10 💀

[thorny zinc]

bro is cooked

[mint rivet]

before

[merry halo]

they will give a nice build rate and exp buff 4 is enough but you dont have too

[mossy anvil]

neglection at its finest

[native trail]

man 😭

[native forge]

most of my towers sit at 95 levels tho

[thorny zinc]

all or nothing

[warm grove]

you ain't gotta tell Kashya def better construction than you, they know the method

[mint rivet]

after another 90% potency down

[merry halo]

well i guess you are just that good

[thorny zinc]

3 increase is HUGE

[merry halo]

i didnt know he was like that

[native forge]

now, is it Scallable one, or just +3 😄

[merry halo]

he rocking that new atoms lvl upgrade

[warm grove]

most people in here are late W6 to put it mildly

[mint rivet]

I am starting to see a lot less red

[thorny zinc]

none is w3-w4 fr xd

[mint rivet]

maybe read

[mossy anvil]

manny is

[warm grove]

why you hate hearty diggy?

[native trail]

wut

[mossy anvil]

and zuiq i guess

[thorny zinc]

zui is a monster

[mossy anvil]

in terms of progression

[mint rivet]

i do not hate, I just wanna candy it-also no sample for it in order to hourly

[native trail]

aaa

[warm grove]

oh dang, no sample is kind of crazy

[native trail]

bully >:(

[mossy anvil]

who? me? naaah

[thorny zinc]

a w3 player is x5 better than you and you are w6

[mint rivet]

before

[merry halo]

guys i got alot of new shines with infinty star sign and they are lvl 1 but i dont get there bonus why is it like that?

[mint rivet]

after! huge increase

[thorny zinc]

WOW 0.6

[native trail]

Lol

[mossy anvil]

are u capped at max star signs?

[warm grove]

then multiply that by agility/250

[merry halo]

lol i am not that good

[opal goblet]

should i keep auto on while fishing leaving game active ? seems like its only fishing when the skill hits

[mint rivet]

btw 95% potency for this bubble IS AT LVL 570 only

[sick oak]

Plus 2nd bubble multi

[mint rivet]

in just over a day worth of atom clicks I will have it there

[mossy anvil]

its like few h of ww play, just saying

[thorny zinc]

fr? i thought you are way better than us

[merry halo]

i am just a noobie

[thorny zinc]

im not done with green page tbh

[merry halo]

only few hour?

[mossy anvil]

im done with starsings, everything unlocked, everything infinite

[thorny zinc]

cant bother playing ww

[mint rivet]

and btw this is underated

[native forge]

just wondered what liquid cap depends most ,and how ppls hit that 100k liquid caps

[mossy anvil]

maybe a bit more tbh

[merry halo]

wdym by capped? i might have got it worng

[native trail]

darkpill frauding lol

[mint rivet]

literally NO ONE is farming money on archers

[warm grove]

honestly yeah it's great for vman

[thorny zinc]

i have a bit to work on them

[mint rivet]

DK/bubo is far better

[mossy anvil]

that u reached all star signs

[merry halo]

well i reched the green one about the get the big one

[warm grove]

do the W3 one, I know it sucks but do it

[thorny zinc]

[sick oak]

Still an increase to overall money

[sick oak]

Ww farming

[mint rivet]

money is becoming less and less useful for me

[merry halo]

not those noone want to wait 16 hour with 3 player

[mint rivet]

i only need money for stamps, vault, bell

[warm grove]

really ain't that bad, it's overnight

[sick oak]

Refinery stamp

[mossy anvil]

put few different shiny with starsings and they should level up in no time while playing ww

[warm grove]

we ain't never upgrading refinery stamp, costs more than the moon

[mint rivet]

I could get all those to next resource breakpoint if i farmed money forlike 10mins, but not gonna do that yet

[merry halo]

yea i did it i put all the infinty star sign they instanly got to lvl 1 and it say that it soppused to give me 2 sign per lvl from each of them but it didnt gave me more infinty signs

[warm grove]

all my money is not enough

[mint rivet]

its time! 150 chizoars

[mint rivet]

nslb hit it?

[warm grove]

yeah a while ago

I definitely did not get the money to upgrade it that's for sure

[icy mantle]

any strategy to claim these?

[mossy anvil]

those are levels required for all infinite if it helps

[polar geyser]

@thorny zinc you know how yo usaid earlier about taking a look at my profile, you wanna know how under prepared i was in general?

[mossy anvil]

and box lvl 8 aswell

[native trail]

those are all the star signs ones?

[thorny zinc]

why not

[mossy anvil]

and box

[native trail]

ty

[merry halo]

yea i got them all but it only giveing me 10 infinte sign instad of 20 i dont understand why

[mossy anvil]

idk if those are all but those are enough to reach every star

[warm grove]

you sure you need all them to be lvl 8? I only got 2 lvl 8 and 4 lvl 7

[mossy anvil]

im not saying they need to be 8, mine are prob overleveled

[merry halo]

what lvl they all need to be for that and those the last big sign effect it?

[polar geyser]

im trying to push world 4 with dk and was wondering how people had so much accuracy, id done owl and roo a bunch, did a few bits and pieces but didnt understand how it was sooo much higher when even from roo i have a like 72% finally relooked and read through the gear chart, ive been using amarok which i used like red gear stones on my warrior for

[mossy anvil]

big sign is passive

[polar geyser]

so i made a new set with purple stones on mage to focus accuracy, i was fighting half my stages with like 34% accuracy finally got 100% accuracy

[thorny zinc]

thats nice

[polar geyser]

oh trust me you dont even want to see the alchemy and cards etc

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-gif-4446960541527894948

[warm grove]

wait shadow you missed the substat upgrade using new stones

[mint rivet]

speaking of summoning

[merry halo]

so that a yes or no?

[thorny zinc]

ban him guys

[warm grove]

ok but that one is actually the main source of accuracy

[mint rivet]

wdym substat

[sick oak]

Acc stat

[mossy anvil]

idk what level they need to be :/

[warm grove]

wisdom on warrior, that stuff

[mint rivet]

he alr included that

[thorny zinc]

cards red text

[mint rivet]

ngl its not very visible

[fiery fjord]

in rift when you need to collect skulls, can you use bubo's mob revive or do the respawns not have skulls

[polar geyser]

ive got like nearly 3 pages of brewing unlocked in alchemy but all level 1 basically, my vials i had the first two unlocked and finally did some others today, even though i have like 18 attempts

[mint rivet]

only for those who got reading issues

[warm grove]

nah I don't see anything about using stones on a diff character to get accuracy

[merry halo]

oh i meant yes or no about if the big sign effecrt infinti sign

[mossy anvil]

u can count amount of stars and each level give 2 points

[warm grove]

they don't know the method

[thorny zinc]

i will create another page i guess but tomorrow

[mossy anvil]

i unlocked it after i got all starsigns so im not sure

[mint rivet]

why another page

[thorny zinc]

like continuation to that guide i mean

[mint rivet]

oh alr then

[mossy anvil]

make it 20 pages pdf file

[merry halo]

well i guess i find out later but thx for the help

[thorny zinc]

i will do an 999 document with all the information about idleon

first " where is vault"

[polar geyser]

all other characters are in lab except my journeyman that im getting levels for atm to work on maestro, but got the 2x kills
also not touched the 3d printer yet ngl

[warm grove]

gotta do your research first

[thorny zinc]

need sheepie for that xd

[mossy anvil]

@warm grove does equinox lab con let u touch that last lab jewels?

[thorny zinc]

just dont

[sick oak]

Its Not worth

[thorny zinc]

thats literally worst upgrade

[thorny zinc]

still not worth

[mossy anvil]

im like 2 pixels off

[warm grove]

I mean I got these guys free

[thorny zinc]

even foodlust is a bit better

[merry halo]

do you got all the jewel?

[sick oak]

Yeah with 110 plates now

[mint rivet]

neglecter

[hard thistle]

Should I max every prayer?

[mossy anvil]

i think there was something about 4 orange jewels and range but i dont have them

[mint rivet]

one is lvl 171-other is 319

[warm grove]

missing the last one, but it's gonna be done when I log into all my characters in a certain order

[sick oak]

Eventually for tome

[thorny zinc]

for tome if you want

[mint rivet]

tome

[warm grove]

just started putting 2nd bubo in lab so he has yet to proc on everyone

[mint rivet]

2 neglecters spotted

[sick oak]

You have 2 bubos?

[compact pagoda]

[merry halo]

bro i was yes and no

[mint rivet]

you got 2 bubos?

[compact pagoda]

we love bubo

[compact pagoda]

ur the only one

[warm grove]

yeah made it quite some time ago before I knew ES was the method

[thorny zinc]

i actually did both

[merry halo]

3 pepole said yes

[mint rivet]

use elite class swap

[polar geyser]

sooooo very neglected, i made my first skilling armor or stuff today for my journeyman today to help get him levels quick, i own a single pickaxe other than that

[compact pagoda]

i smell 2

[warm grove]

my reasoning was I could do double lab and cc twice as often

[merry halo]

you smell i see

[warm grove]

I probably will when the masterclass comes out, gotta see first

[mint rivet]

you can't do both, you either decide not to max prayers or max em

[compact pagoda]

lies

[thorny zinc]

got to 170

[merry halo]

i was in the middle

[thorny zinc]

then yeah max for tome

[compact pagoda]

pushing others when

[mint rivet]

higher than mine

[thorny zinc]

im not doing more today💀

[strange flare]

i wonder what I do in idleon now

probably ww farm and do something else

[merry halo]

if only i could get that good cons speed

[mint rivet]

ALCHEMY

[sick oak]

Cogs

[thorny zinc]

you will

[strange flare]

i'm already doing alchemy you fool

[strange flare]

and hell nah

[mint rivet]

i can't see that

[warm grove]

nice, you can tell some of these were not redone with high td lvls

[strange flare]

i hourly click

[thorny zinc]

crazy

[mint rivet]

1300!

[mint rivet]

how many bubbles

[sick oak]

More gaming?

[compact pagoda]

neglect

[merry halo]

why does some td get bigger wave the the first one

[strange flare]

i'm done with gaming

[strange flare]

idk at least 1

[warm grove]

I didn't redo them

[mint rivet]

ur never done, don't ignore gaming

[sick oak]

Never done

[merry halo]

231!

[strange flare]

i'm done with gaming

[compact pagoda]

500+ when

[mint rivet]

average neglecter

[merry halo]

i am about the cook with summoning

[thorny zinc]

i started fixing farming as well

[sick oak]

Glassy when?

[compact pagoda]

show summoning

[mint rivet]

it still sucks, but keep fixing

[compact pagoda]

can't be worse than me

[thorny zinc]

i have it unlock working on them rn

[warm grove]

alright darkred I upgraded respawn a bit are you happy now?

[compact pagoda]

do it faster

[thorny zinc]

the main problem is here

[native trail]

i love how this chat just brings u down no matter how hard u try 😭

[mint rivet]

no 6 digit number, no happy

[thorny zinc]

and here too

[compact pagoda]

get more product doubler

[mint rivet]

isn't that the whole farming

[thorny zinc]

bro is profesional farmer

[sick oak]

Farming sucks early on

[compact pagoda]

ur higher than me

[thorny zinc]

yep

[merry halo]

what about land rank arent those soppused to pump farming by alot?

[compact pagoda]

be better

[mint rivet]

i recently reached a breakpoint-its about when you reach rank 50's

[thorny zinc]

early ehh

[compact pagoda]

somewhere eh

[merry halo]

but most likly you constuction is better the me

[compact pagoda]

lies

i don't believe it

[warm grove]

rank 50 is where it gets better? I got mine around rank 35 I believe

[sick oak]

Whats your grow time?

[compact pagoda]

i neglect the most

[mint rivet]

who is further, pilldark or dowsha?

[mint rivet]

how do I check-also its innacurate since I did not do my stacks

[strange flare]

i dont think the lost 25% sediment upgrade works lol

[mint rivet]

it got exponentially faster-getting 100+ rank points a day, everything going super high number wise

[strange flare]

nvm it does

[merry halo]

you just saw mine it in the f tier

[sick oak]

Oh no stacks suck, and i just go off of the in game timer

[cyan sequoia]

this the last green bubbler?

[thorny zinc]

2 more gems

[merry halo]

but you can get nice buff even early no?

[mint rivet]

i can't see how many miliseconds it takes off the in game timer

[thorny zinc]

i think?

[warm grove]

you can try looking at this in game

[cyan sequoia]

wait are u doing collectibles?

[thorny zinc]

yes?

[cyan sequoia]

with both pages open?

[merry halo]

so why dont you get it alr it leveling it self in some way

[mint rivet]

currently here

[thorny zinc]

what pages?

[warm grove]

ooh

[mint rivet]

will go for beans soon

though I have been upgrading the market for a week now

[sick oak]

Oh 198x isnt bad

[mint rivet]

gained 1k land rank points in a week too

[warm grove]

holy

[mint rivet]

do I smell a non exalted stamp

[warm grove]

oh my god I forgot to put omega back on

[merry halo]

nice

[warm grove]

yes

[merry halo]

nice

[cyan sequoia]

the more collectibles u gather the harder it gets, engi schematic for the other gems

[thorny zinc]

[warm grove]

I don't think i'll exalt it because I don't really use ladels like that, and a 2x increase probably won't help much later on if I need to use multiple thousands to get 1 lvl

[sick oak]

Yeah dont get all on 1st page

[merry halo]

eww

[thorny zinc]

and why it shows my alchemy level lol

[thorny zinc]

im trying to fix it

[merry halo]

i feel like your bravery is the problom

[native trail]

nice wave 50 ill stop here

[thorny zinc]

i think i will wait for x10 now

[sick oak]

That would proably take weeks

[thorny zinc]

i usually do x2.5

[cyan sequoia]

dont worry u only need engi 27 for it

[mint rivet]

2x is a big deal

[warm grove]

yeah but I don't really use ladels like that

[thorny zinc]

i will move opals here after i get evertree

[merry halo]

i can see what the problom

[patent isle]

best power statue farm on bubo?

[merry halo]

oh it the opal

[cyan sequoia]

are u going blind with the hole shadow or?

[mint rivet]

who knows what w7 will hold, its a good prep-also faster gstack (since we will get more ladle % sources)

[hollow osprey]

do we have a worship guide
somewhere/spreadsheet

[thorny zinc]

yes that guide is more confusing than ever

[sturdy scaffold]

can the db get apocalypse stacks on rift mobs?

[cyan sequoia]

all right then

[thorny zinc]

i guess i can try reading that guide again

[warm grove]

maybe, but my db has more important things to afk when I finish the dream up, i'll keep it in mind for later I suppose

[mint rivet]

it can get on a specific miniboss aswell

[merry halo]

[cyan sequoia]

read collectibles and enchanting sections, probably most important ones to understand

[mint rivet]

ladle one is about bottom of S tier

[thorny zinc]

okay

[cyan sequoia]

dont worry about the gilded jars and whatever thats confusing

[hollow osprey]

im gonna go insane i remember we had a worship guide somewhere on this discord

[warm grove]

I don't see how it really makes it into S tier ngl

[mint rivet]

we surely do

[mint rivet]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[mint rivet]

its an enormous boost for your ladles

and you never have too many ladles

[warm grove]

yeah but ladles aren't really that important

[hollow osprey]

it does, ty

[sturdy scaffold]

wait, is there a way to tell killcount or do I just have to guess?

[mint rivet]

ladles are crucial

[mint rivet]

!IT

[warm grove]

to a degree yeah I agree

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[cyan sequoia]

card for the enemy

[merry halo]

it like cooking speed in another form

[mint rivet]

and also, check the card (does not work on miniboss)

[sturdy scaffold]

there's no cards for rift mobs

[thorny zinc]

ok so im only doing rupies now

[merry halo]

but you need good lvl eng

[thorny zinc]

need to wait for schematic that improves rupies value

i wont do gems anymore

[mint rivet]

measurer gives like 200x

[merry halo]

gems?

[mint rivet]

per specific bonus

[thorny zinc]

these i mean

collectibles sorry

[strange flare]

the villager exp one is goated early

[merry halo]

if you want to boost you jar you can take all you opal and put half on eng and musre man and some of explorer

[mint rivet]

back when I was early too, i reset enchants and dropped from 3.5b to 1b

[thorny zinc]

i hate the fact that hole will take ages to fix

[strange flare]

yeah it's insane how much it gives

[strange flare]

dw it's only taken me 2 months

[thorny zinc]

💀

[merry halo]

what you mean enchant?

[mint rivet]

vill xp from gems is a sepparate multi

[mint rivet]

for gems in c11

[merry halo]

you can do that?

[warm grove]

same, just about done with all the new stuff unlocking, now it's just getting better stuff from it

[mint rivet]

via a jar type that gives enchants

[mint rivet]

rn I am trying to minmax and prep for c20

[thorny zinc]

rn i have explorer 11, eng 14, conjuror 20, measure 8. i will def move all opals in measure for now

[mint rivet]

100k bravery arc

[warm grove]

dang, still working on finishing up the last shematics and such

[thorny zinc]

but tomorrow after i unlock evertree and have enough wishes

[strange flare]

i have everything unlocked for the measurer finally just need some more schematics and c15

[merry halo]

ahh yes the c20 that coming sooo

[strange flare]

might actually almost be time to put all my opals on one again

[mint rivet]

its 99% coming after w7

[merry halo]

i am pretty sure it coming this year

[sick oak]

Caverns 16-20 are crazy expensive

[mint rivet]

you do not do that? no wonder it took u that much time to fix

[warm grove]

probably not

[mint rivet]

lava said a few days ago its in 2.5months or so

[strange flare]

spread is more efficnent xp wise

[merry halo]

i dont know but someone sent me that

[hidden creek]

both statements can be true. W7 is coming around september from what Lava said so C20 could be after and still be this year.

[mint rivet]

no, you are wrong

[hidden creek]

old and outdated

[mint rivet]

all into one isbest method

[warm grove]

yeah very old

[mint rivet]

by far

[strange flare]

this guy can't do math

[mint rivet]

you don't understand how the scaling works

[warm grove]

spread is better if you need all of them lvl'd

[sick oak]

Once you have so many opals it becomes better to split

[strange flare]

i'm literally a game designer

[cyan sequoia]

hole sure is something

[mint rivet]

its a lazier way, not a more efficient way

[merry halo]

:CatLaugh:

[mint rivet]

multiples of 5 is about 30% less efficient than all into one

[merry halo]

why it not working

[hollow osprey]

whats the big construction speed bubble called again

[warm grove]

not really, I need to lvl all my stuff basically so I spread with almost 50 opals into each

[mint rivet]

not really what?

[merry halo]

big bob

[warm grove]

spread is good if you need all things lvl'd

[mint rivet]

all into one gets em lvld faster

[strange flare]

spread is the most exp per opal you can get with enough bonuses

[warm grove]

of course don't use it to push a new cavern or something though

[sick oak]

Call me bob

[mint rivet]

though spread is if u don't wanna use wishes and be lazier

[hollow osprey]

call me bob, thanks

[weary plover]

I just got a "Portal Opened" in what I thought was the final map of World 4. What portal? 😮

[strange flare]

since engineer and explore take an ungodly amount more exp, you want to go all in on them

[lucid osprey]

portal to my heart

[hidden creek]

probably the boss "portal," it technically exists

[thorny zinc]

4 more characters and everyone will be full marbi

[mint rivet]

bolaia and cosmo are the problem later on, earlier its whatever u said

[strange flare]

well yeah because you practical max

[woeful scaffold]

Is this comp good enough? Cuz i die at 65+

[strange flare]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-flash-cat-betterttv-gif-10690574645280585754

[zenith hare]

never use mono in arena.

[warm grove]

im curious, are you doing it slowly instead of all at once because of limitations in marble ore gain or is it because it's too much to do all at once?

[mint rivet]

no, its because I GOT NO USE for engi/explorer/measurer lvls rn

[zenith hare]

and I mean never

[thorny zinc]

kinda both

[strange flare]

wow it's almost like it's becasue you practical max

[mint rivet]

I am not practical max on hole

[woeful scaffold]

But thats what is in the guide for safest 125

[thorny zinc]

rn im trying to level everyone

[mint rivet]

not even close

[strange flare]

[sturdy scaffold]

Where do I find kill counts on here, I've been looking for a bit cant seem to find it

[thorny zinc]

as i dont have enough skill lvl

[mint rivet]

bean is wayy further than me in hole, he is practical max

[strange flare]

brother please use the mushy thing in your skull

[zenith hare]

Read the notes. and it lies

[mint rivet]

you don't know what practical max is, neglecter

[zenith hare]

the "safety" one takes both ages and is actually not safer

[strange flare]

if i can't get any more of it = practical max

[mint rivet]

no

[woeful scaffold]

So which comp should i use?

[mint rivet]

that is true max

[zenith hare]

either of those two

make sure to read the notes

[mint rivet]

practical max is when getting more of it is extremely hard

[strange flare]

there are only 15 caverns, limited schematics, and so many measure bonuses. Having them unlocked is practically maxed until more content is released

[errant laurel]

What should i lvlup in equonox and not pvlup at all, i remember there a guide gorgot where

[mint rivet]

you'd be surprised how bad I am in hole compared to endgamers

[zenith hare]

don't level up the food one and ballot. rest should be maxed

[mint rivet]

i am late-hole, not practical maxed hole

[strange flare]

therefore no reason to level them further except for futureproofing

[sick oak]

Lab one?

[zenith hare]

lab one is great

[strange flare]

ima go work on some stuff now

[mint rivet]

there is a reason to lvl cosmo and bolaia for the present

[strange flare]

not idleon related

wow it's almost like I just explain that

[mint rivet]

no

[sick oak]

First time ive seen someone say that lol

[mint rivet]

you said no reason except for futureproofing

[zenith hare]

fist time I've seen anyone say it's bad

[errant laurel]

Yeah i did liquid investment so far. Not others yet

[mint rivet]

besides futureproofing, there is also improving the present

[zenith hare]

never ever assume people have doot

it's only "bad" if you have doot

[strange flare]

you can't improve the present with those

[mint rivet]

bottom of A tier

[mint rivet]

wdym you can not??do you not know what leveling bolaia/cosmo does?

[strange flare]

i'm done here

[mint rivet]

did you even unlock bolaia

[errant laurel]

Bolia so good i got lamp pumping 12xxx a day

[zenith hare]

means it's great

[mint rivet]

huge indeed

[errant laurel]

15%reading speed for bolia super good at higher lvls shoots from 15 to 150 to 1500

[mint rivet]

3k!

and btw i don't have the study rate gem so that is why its lower than expected (by bean)

[errant laurel]

Nice apmost 14 on yo pamp XD

[mint rivet]

i will push it abit more after every bonus is at least lvl 10

I need that gemstone gain

[native forge]

motherlode is very weak compared to other studies imo

2% ,when other skilling nodes give 5%

just sayin ofc ;d

[mint rivet]

a measurer bonus scales off of total study bonuses' lvls, and it scales good

[native forge]

ah, the total studies done ,eyah

but please don't research bravery more than 7 😄

[mint rivet]

i got mine at 8

[warm grove]

I made that mistake

[mint rivet]

will get it to 10

[warm grove]

didn't realize it wasn't increasing

[mint rivet]

you on the lvl 10 grind aswell?

[limpid lark]

Guys do we have an updated list on all the sources of cooking speed?

[warm grove]

no I was just stupid

[mint rivet]

i don't think so

[warm grove]

still got more things to lvl that are important rn

[limpid lark]

zam

[mint rivet]

main ones are: vman, diamond chef bubble, cabbage, atom, farming

just do those and ur good

[limpid lark]

farming??

[mint rivet]

1second

[warped raven]

why did my deathbringer questline kills reset had 2/3 mobs and would've been done with it💀

[mint rivet]

oh mb, I missed a main source

bravery too

[mint rivet]

and my farming sucks

people are reaching millions multi

[limpid lark]

oh trueeeeee

thank you

[mint rivet]

np

[serene dock]

this is a lifesaver lol, I have plenty of damage but my accuracy sucks

[thorny zinc]

💀

[thorny zinc]

I just came back and see this

[serene dock]

uhhh

[mint rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/sponge-bob-crying-unscrewing-eyeballs-gone-gif-12784982

[serene dock]

well then

[mint rivet]

good name

[mint rivet]

should change to global

[limpid lark]

And so to get diamond chef to a high lvl, is it actually possible to get millions of spice at a reasonable time

[serene dock]

why do I say all this and just immediately get insulted by like 3 people

[mint rivet]

you rely on NBLB< when NBLB gets it to 100m cost, you will be able to atom it

[mint rivet]

your imagine is mentally damaging

[limpid lark]

bruh lol

[thorny zinc]

we are not insulting

[mint rivet]

first off, not many prayers, second off, no skilled dimwit equipped

[limpid lark]

so just rng and pray

[mint rivet]

no

[serene dock]

well I feel like an idiot now lol

[thorny zinc]

my main problem was that he lacks accuracy

[mint rivet]

NBLB always upgrades the lowest lvl bubbles, make sure u lvl others higher than diamond chef, in order for nblb to hit it

[thorny zinc]

the only thing that i dont understand how 80% of players that are w3-w4 still lacks accuracy with vault into the game

[mint rivet]

view your upcoming bubbles to be nblb'd on

!IT

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[astral lava]

Sup guys

[mint rivet]

nblb only works on w1-w4 bubbles (not the atom version) and for those lvl 2 or higher

[thorny zinc]

also try to get accuracy from other sources than prayer not really good focusing on it

[serene dock]

and I'm in w4, I just only have a 50% hit rate against the gelatin things

[astral lava]

Did u make this?

[thorny zinc]

[astral lava]

Did u??

[thorny zinc]

yes i need to add stone upgrading as aparently ppl dont know

[astral lava]

I like it

[thorny zinc]

thx not the best tho

[mint rivet]

YOU ARE w4????

[serene dock]

yeah I have multiple armor pieces and my weapon focused on acc instead of damage

[thorny zinc]

oh god

[serene dock]

yea

[thorny zinc]

dont mind bean

he bullied me a lot too dw

[mint rivet]

read this, take action, stop neglecting, and ur good

[astral lava]

My bully rival is Ashley

[thorny zinc]

REAL

[mint rivet]

how far is ashley in the game

[serene dock]

oh yeah about the kangaroo thing, do I have to have the map to enter? after I've found it once at least

[thorny zinc]

rn probably worse than me

[astral lava]

Lower than Shadow at this point

Didn't see him for a long time

[thorny zinc]

he is playing other games

[astral lava]

How did he break the chain..

[mint rivet]

i got pinch perms for ashley too

[serene dock]

500 teleports?

well 568 but still

[astral lava]

Gem shop

[serene dock]

is that a money thing or a gem thing

[zenith hare]

gem

[thorny zinc]

tbh idk probably got bored havent asked him

[mint rivet]

150 chizoars, no triple digit gem, me sad

[serene dock]

I thought that only recovered teleports faster

[astral lava]

Btw @thorny zinc, is that pic u made is only for pre w4?

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[astral lava]

Alr then

[zenith hare]

increases cap too

[serene dock]

good to know

[thorny zinc]

if you get to w6 and you need accuracy you have big problems

[serene dock]

I rarely get below 70 but it'll be useful in the future

[thorny zinc]

the only lacking accuracy i accept are golems

[astral lava]

Nah

[mint rivet]

1k

this is literally 1k gems right here

[thorny zinc]

idk feels a lot

[astral lava]

I would say den dwag

[thorny zinc]

true

[astral lava]

U unlocked c15???

[thorny zinc]

no lol

[mint rivet]

compared to yesterday, I gained 150 points!

[astral lava]

?wiki Golem

[cursive walrus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Golem

[thorny zinc]

i will unlock evertree tomorrow

[mint rivet]

oh my god

[astral lava]

1.5B??

[mint rivet]

598.468x more common

[astral lava]

That's nothin

[hard thistle]

9900 stamp levels

[thorny zinc]

1.5B?????

nvm

[mint rivet]

get your shaq up

[thorny zinc]

i can prob get it to minimum 500

even more

[astral lava]

U have more crops than me but not more land ranks

More crops meaning u unlocked more

[mint rivet]

dw that will change very very soon

[mint rivet]

i got less land plots

[honest cradle]

hello chat

Why are combat prints so hard to get good

[astral lava]

I don't think so

[mint rivet]

half of total

[mint rivet]

i do think so

[astral lava]

Cuz u aren't doing them on Vman

[mint rivet]

because you are not doing on vman

[honest cradle]

Is vman the ticket then?

I will try thnks

[astral lava]

||In a run*||

[honest cradle]

It needs to be speedrun?

[astral lava]

That's where Vman have the advantage

[mint rivet]

yes, after || you killed as many nightmare unique bosses as u could||

[astral lava]

DarkRed will pull up why for u

[honest cradle]

Do I need that multikill activated?

[thin girder]

I am stuck i need accuracy to actually hit shi and get elite classes

[astral lava]

Yeeee

[thin girder]

No accuracy

[honest cradle]

does it need to be nightmare?

[mint rivet]

also this is nice too

[honest cradle]

I used up keys not too long ago

[warm grove]

alright now do the quest 1000 times

[mint rivet]

capped at 10 times a day

[warm grove]

I know

[honest cradle]

Last time I barely got through map 4

[thin girder]

Hoenis this 1 k gems

[honest cradle]

So is this worth it to me now?

[warm grove]

also we are way closer in farming than I thought darkred, at least in terms of a few things

[honest cradle]

Does the higher difficulty just make the booost better or is it actually required

[astral lava]

I like how in the pic it also says that he doesn't recommend it...

[mint rivet]

its not like I will do it

[astral lava]

Your characters will

[mint rivet]

it saves u time, doing nightmare counts as killing nightmare, chaotic, normal

[mint rivet]

without my command, there won't be such thing

[honest cradle]

I see why you guys always complain about setting up prints

Thats a lot to do for combat

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/army-get-to-it-militaryshoveling-army-style-army-wayshovelsnow-gif-13342639

[mint rivet]

going for 1k stacks, no?

[warm grove]

should go for 100k stacks

[astral lava]

That's late farming strategy

[warm grove]

takes longer but its so worth it

[mint rivet]

I don't think so yet

look at this

[honest cradle]

man having daily limits on stuff is a real damper all mmos use

[astral lava]

After the 1k s strategy, u can easily do it

[warm grove]

that's crazy

[astral lava]

Land plots is horrible

[warm grove]

rip those plots fr

[astral lava]

Did u buy the rest from gem shop?

[mint rivet]

dw I am getting em

[astral lava]

But other upgrades are great

[mint rivet]

[warm grove]

considering buying out the exalted stamps

[mint rivet]

time tto test increase exalting ladle stamp has for a midgamer

[astral lava]

I bought alot too

[astral lava]

U are lategame

[warm grove]

late midgame or early lategame? we will never know

[mint rivet]

not yet

WW halted this by a ton

the active grind ones will take a crap ton of time

40hrs of active for only a few bstalked 100k's

[warm grove]

yeah the beanstalks take so long

[mint rivet]

before

[astral lava]

If that list is done, what is left for endgame?

[mint rivet]

after

[warm grove]

I gotta grind more W3 statues

[mint rivet]

99% potency, max all meal lvls, get gr7, etc

[mint rivet]

i am getting bone timeskips and many statues at the same time

[warm grove]

bone timeskips?

oh you mean you are farming on db?

[mint rivet]

AND on top of that

getting for this too

[warm grove]

ooh nice

[mint rivet]

letting him rott at sheepies

ofc not active on him

[warm grove]

does it really give that many statues?

[mint rivet]

ah yes

[mint rivet]

6k is from a bit over a day worth

with unoptimised dr and kph

[warm grove]

that's pretty good then actually, maybe 1/3 or 1/4 of active ES

[astral lava]

Ah yes

[mint rivet]

ooops realised i had my skilling preset on

[astral lava]

AH YES OFC

[mint rivet]

dw not a big difference

how is this not maxed

[astral lava]

-# YES OBV

[mint rivet]

I have +70 extra points

or is it +80

even I forgor

[astral lava]

60

[astral lava]

Based on this

[mint rivet]

in image there are +70

[astral lava]

Wrong reply*

[astral lava]

Mm

[mint rivet]

preset for DB

doubling this juicer

[thorny zinc]

been 2 weeks already of waiting for the dr guide from griffy what is the bald man doing

[astral lava]

I also have this keychain for my DB

[mint rivet]

just a rough estimate, no minmaxing

[warm grove]

you want a guide? make gs gear, do a lot of sanctum, owl, then buy every pack

you are 1/4 the way there

[thorny zinc]

true

[mint rivet]

exalted the stamp

[white lintel]

Me when there’s a spreadsheet for it

[mint rivet]

oh right

[thorny zinc]

ik but its more fun

[mint rivet]

I got the spreadsheet

[thorny zinc]

send it here for me too please

[mint rivet]

nvm can't rn, gtg for now

cya everyone temporarly

[thorny zinc]

trolled me

[warm grove]

come on carpenter, get those nblb procs rolling

that's crazy

[white path]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1l3RFWq1Zypqkfby1YncOkuY_K4aSist14KUK5dJQ3as/edit?gid=1005058354#gid=1005058354

[thorny zinc]

thx mr duck

he is always watching fr

[warm grove]

actually matter of fact, let's see your lowest bubbles shadow

since you had plenty of reactions to give im sure they are rather impressive

[thorny zinc]

[astral lava]

Poor shadow

[white lintel]

Hey John

[warm grove]

interesting that your bubbles are the same as follkey's

[thorny zinc]

😭

[native forge]

800 kill per kill wowzers

[thorny zinc]

those are mine

[white lintel]

I’d expect follkey to have 1500 bubbles to force nblb

[warm grove]

not a single one in atom range is crazy

[native forge]

you still wait for the unatomable ones for gaming bits >:<

[thorny zinc]

i expect follkey to take a break he had 1.5m yesterday

bro is crazy

[warm grove]

nah the stamps is the crazy part

[white lintel]

Is he starting up on the GT grind again or are these something else

[thorny zinc]

💀

[warm grove]

damn

[thorny zinc]

thats literally more than x10 of my total bubbles

[warm grove]

more than 10x? you have less than 19k bubbles???

[white lintel]

What the fuck

[thorny zinc]

yes

[strange flare]

my gt is 12k damn

[warm grove]

bro needs to CC desperately

[strange flare]

your total bubbles arent even double my gt

[mossy anvil]

Bruh i have more and im neglecting alchemy hard

[strange flare]

to be fair mine is kinda low too

[thorny zinc]

nah he is slacking fr

[white lintel]

he even got more than me

[strange flare]

i can complete 90% arc before folley

[thorny zinc]

no chance

he just needs to click 2 times and you are done

[warm grove]

link your alch isn't that low, it's just concentrated into your liquid gain

[strange flare]

fair

[warm grove]

if you did CC actively and clicking like me you'd catch up in no time at all

matter of fact ima get to 60k bubbles rq

[thorny zinc]

my main problem now is that i struggle to get every bubble to 75%

the anvil mats ones are annoying as fuck

[warm grove]

hourly click anvil bubble

[thorny zinc]

tbh not a bad idea at all

the prints are enough

oh no he is here

[white lintel]

guys im slacking

[hallow shard]

i only have one DK for construction am i cooked?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[thorny zinc]

neglecting

[thorny zinc]

make another 2 like the best player in the world

[warm grove]

smh arctis lock in like me

[hallow shard]

should i change one BB for DK?

[thorny zinc]

what are your classes rn?

[hallow shard]

i only have 10 slots unlike him have 11 xd

[thorny zinc]

11????

[hallow shard]

one sec

[thorny zinc]

what is bro saying

if i know to count correctly(and i dont) i see only 10 characters

i see a t1 splicer and a t3 splicer gg

[warm grove]

the splicers bug me

[thorny zinc]

follkey account roast here

[warm grove]

I have all T4 splicers, i'm better than follkey?

[thorny zinc]

yeah you are nr one now

[merry halo]

Use bargin tag

[warm grove]

better get on making that godshard gear then I guess

[merry halo]

How do you even have god armor

[white lintel]

he crafted it

[thorny zinc]

thats not mine lol

i have 12412512351235 more years to get like that

[merry halo]

He cant his hole is bad

[warm grove]

that's neglect, I could get to follkey's lvl in 2 years

[thorny zinc]

XDD

[white lintel]

what does the hole have to do with GS?

[thorny zinc]

ofc you alr have the splicers

[hallow shard]

two elemental two BB two pirate guy and the rest is one

[hallow shard]

also vman

[merry halo]

The forge

[thorny zinc]

yeah you can change one bb if you want tbh

[white lintel]

you can get that super easy

[hallow shard]

okty

[thorny zinc]

tbh i have some forging speed problems rn

[white lintel]

itd take less than 10 majik points

[hallow shard]

one bb is quite bad i feel like rn

[white lintel]

SB on gmush

[merry halo]

It all about the multi kill

[thorny zinc]

i alr did 2 days of 2m claims im going insane

[warm grove]

I feel like my CC times are kind of low for some reason, I know I don't have lvl 400 tent yet but I feel like I should be getting more