midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[strange prism]

even if it was - wouldnt be better then a reprint

[mossy anvil]

damn where did u get those, i just reached 36 today

[strange flare]

just got 105% from sneaking

[strange prism]

eh?

[warm grove]

from sneaking?

[alpine scarab]

wut

[strange flare]

farming I meant

[strange prism]

suuuure

[alpine scarab]

oh yea forgot farming existed

[warm grove]

oh yeah I also get about 100% from that

[mossy anvil]

which row in land ranks is it

[strange flare]

sorry I was looking at seed of stealth when I typed that lmao

[strange prism]

exposing your DB hate is wild

[warm grove]

well I guess 128% overall

[alpine scarab]

which upgrade is that ome

[mossy anvil]

oh so next one then

[strange prism]

show DB love - DB show you love

[warm grove]

how is that db love?

that's just the landranks boost talent with points in it

[strange flare]

my DB doesn't even have afk bones yet smh

[strange prism]

thats 20% more dr

[strange flare]

whats the best place to farm afk bones for unlock

[warm grove]

yeah different talent preset is all

[strange prism]

DB gives you more levels to land ranks

[warm grove]

yeah so claim on farming preset on db? I don't see where the love comes from

[cunning quartz]

How you get the Second multi ?

[warm grove]

db just a dude is all

[strange prism]

have.. you ever looked at grimoire ..

theres an unlock for additional levels to land ranks.. what talent are you talking about

[warm grove]

maybe like once, we got the same lvl for the farming things

the one that boosts landrank upgrade effects

[strange flare]

i wonder how many kills ill get on quenchie killroy

[mossy anvil]

grimore upgrade give max level to those land rank skills

[fervent condor]

best location of each kind of dust in w4?

[strange prism]

just leave it, is what it is

[warm grove]

yeah I know that, link isn't neglecting it, just didn't spec into the talent that boosts their effects

[strange prism]

you know that yet you still respond with something that has nothing to do with it

[strange flare]

whos yelling at me

[strange prism]

whats the level on your DR land rank

[strange flare]

7

[strange prism]

bruh

[strange flare]

it says max

[warm grove]

I am aware of this, look at the before and after of DR

[strange prism]

thats not maxed lmao

10 is max

[warm grove]

this is what i'm talking about

[strange prism]

holy points wtf

[warm grove]

what? it's not that much

[strange prism]

ig if link doesnt even have a point in it

I didnt max that - not even close

[warm grove]

probably something like that if I had to guess

[strange flare]

max

[strange prism]

[warm grove]

alright better

link the max is 11 with grimoire, for the full effect you gotta spec into the db landrank talent

[stray hornet]

yo guys for alchemy can i speed up a cauldrons progress with CC if i have my character with CC in it or does it only work for liquids cause i wanna try to get all my bubbles so i can start focusing sigils

[strange flare]

im fighting I only got 1 point in them

[warm grove]

yeah it speeds the cauldrons too

[strange flare]

ah you meant this

ill max it when I get afk bones

[warm grove]

oh my massive gains

[strange flare]

need to wait 3 hours for 2x bones from gambit reset first

[warm grove]

OH MY GOD

[strange flare]

stonks

[stray hornet]

alr and is it by a good amount cause i have a bubo with a lvl 123 CC talent and lvl 66 cooking roadkill bubble

[strange flare]

how bad is my DB

[warm grove]

it's the same ammout of time, so it's gonna be slow with tent at not lvl 200

[stray hornet]

alright

[strange flare]

why are my bones multi so low

compared to you

[warm grove]

better than mine

[strange flare]

i dont even have gambit smh

[warm grove]

gravestone buff needs to be active

[strange prism]

whoops wrong one

nope

[warm grove]

man I got so much things to do, only at crop research

[strange flare]

posts the same one

[strange prism]

it takes forever for my pc to acknowledge the ss for some reason

[strange flare]

mine is at 58 lol

%

[warm grove]

memebean got the same problem too

[strange prism]

my t1 bone hourly feels terrible

[strange flare]

wdym

[warm grove]

the slow SS thing

[strange flare]

windows bug

[warm grove]

yeah, time for that reformat probably

[strange flare]

or that dism /online /cleanup-image /restorehealth

[warm grove]

huh I didn't know about that

windows 11 thing? or I just never heard

[strange flare]

nope at least since 10 maybe even 8

it's like sfc /scannow but for windows files

[warm grove]

dang, would've been nice to know

[strange flare]

i bet if you ran it now it would "find issues"

[warm grove]

yeah I got a lot of issues

[strange prism]

welp

[strange flare]

so where is the fastest spot to get afk bones

[warm grove]

I dunno, quenchies wasn't bad for it

[strange flare]

does not seem like a high mob density map

[strange prism]

same as where the best active is

[warm grove]

could do TVs

[strange flare]

you know you dont need to be in wraith form to farm them right

[warm grove]

ah, well I did them both at once

[strange flare]

maybe i'll do sammys

[warm grove]

maybe that one spot in W5 at purgatories with the gravestone

probably the fastest possible way to do it by far

[strange prism]

oh you mean getting the fragments?

[strange flare]

skilling platform grave?

[strange prism]

its random, do it anywhere lmao

[warm grove]

yeah

[strange flare]

yeah

need some more

[warm grove]

like right at the entrance portal I believe, saw some dude crushing out graves with that setup

[strange flare]

116 more gems

[warm grove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDGcLjGoC9k
yeah look at the first few seconds of this video, he is demolishing those graves

[strange flare]

thats crazy

[pulsar girder]

okay i got the amarok set instead of Orange Shirt on my guy pushing w4. are you proud of me

[warm grove]

perfect, now you will never run out of accuracy if you boost it with your substat

[woeful karma]

is rolling more then 5 dice items a waste?

[warm grove]

wdym?

[woeful karma]

when i roll more then a stack of 5 dice only 5 roll options show up

10 dice stack

[warm grove]

really? never did that outside the dungeon, works in the dungeon though

[strange flare]

huh did he make them only drop in wraith form now??

[warm grove]

hmm, definitely had more options than that in the past

[woeful karma]

only 5 dice

in a stack of 5six i na stack of 10

wasnt sure if i get less or they varry over or something id

[strange flare]

smh quenchie it is

[warm grove]

it took me about 2 hours to farm it iirc btw

[strange flare]

do i need to like unlock dropping them?

oh finally got one

he must've made it wraith form only

[warm grove]

nah it should just drop, I did it in wraith though

[strange prism]

its fairly random, you'll get 200 in 10 minutes then 100 30 minutes later

[strange flare]

well see how long mine takes

then I need to do chizoars for hopefully 116 gems

and maybe some minibosses

[warm grove]

why specifically 116?

[strange flare]

i want the essence hat before more dust grinding

but I want afk bones too

[warm grove]

fair

[strange prism]

essence hat?

[warm grove]

the ww one in the gshop he means

[strange prism]

oh dust hat

[strange flare]

do you get charred bones even in not wraith mode afk?

[strange prism]

dont think so

[strange flare]

1.25 essence will be great

[warm grove]

yeah but I think it's only for fighting in my experience

[strange prism]

you get Charred Bones - you dont get charred fragments

[warm grove]

oh yeah that

[strange flare]

well i've been missing out on bones not having them yet

[strange prism]

unfortunate

bone candy goated either way

just make sure you split stack, it eats all of them in 1 go

[woeful karma]

oh shit is this icon new? i could have sowrn i t was blank icon before?

[warm grove]

relatively new yeah

[strange prism]

guess we know whos next

[warm grove]

nah next is bubo I can feel it

[woeful karma]

ES mmasterclass?

i wonder

[strange prism]

vman should be next

ew

FML IT HAPPENED AGAIN

[warm grove]

for vman masterclass, lava is gonna make us get all achievements

[woeful karma]

i used to call ES arcane sorcerer

i wonder if i somehow new the mastercalss name but forgot the elite class name and fuesd the two

[woeful karma]

NOPLLEASE NOO NOT THE MINIGAME ACHIVMENETS

[warm grove]

hehehe, you must do them all

not just the easy ones too

[strange flare]

now this is cash money

[native forge]

Ig i saw some people at pizza 1 servers already with that class

[woeful karma]

wha

[strange flare]

def bubo masterclass next

[strange prism]

• Ignore this

[woeful karma]

wdym they had thgat masterclass already?

[strange flare]

rule4

[atomic scroll]

did you screenshot it?

[native forge]

Od some bots advertising cheats smh

Not sure what that was but looked weird

[indigo stratus]

Try cans, if you're active... will get way higher

[woeful karma]

what about rule 4? im confused?

[strange prism]

cheating

[woeful karma]

did it drop arleady and i somehow didnt know?

ohhh
damn
rip

[native forge]

Na ,i land on pizza servers only when doing hh xd

Prefer less populated servers,less lag for me

[warm grove]

salty 3 best server

[woeful karma]

i always just chill on Dice 1

[strange prism]

cant even properly express how amazing these afk bones are

[native forge]

I make sure to visit w3 xD

[woeful karma]

dice 1 fourtyest best server
for it has Zuiq

[woeful karma]

high chance youd see me afking at Drams overnight or i nthe day or pretty much eveyr time im not doing somehting else in the game

the genocide wont continue itself on its own after all

[native forge]

Ahh i need eclipses too

[strange flare]

killed more than me

[woeful karma]

you wanna know whats even worse?

i have a Dram pet following me

i am either badly tramatizing it

or teaching it to become bloodthirsty for its own kind

unsure which
maybe both

[atomic scroll]

you didn't get the eclipse skulls from rift?

[woeful karma]

i dont have W4 unlocked mate

rip

oh there it goes

[native forge]

Atleast its not on monument

[woeful karma]

true

or crystal island

[native forge]

Yeah,or after opening event boxes,and it didnt picked the drops yet

[woeful karma]

that too

[strange prism]

50 afk bones later

[warm grove]

yeah that looks like 50 hours of progress

[robust marsh]

this was 3t yesterday

[strange prism]

went from 40m cost to 250m cost per upgrade

love afk

[strange flare]

only 90 frags so far

[honest cradle]

Are these afk constellation like consective hours?

fuck me I didnt know that

[strange prism]

you can candy if candy exceeds it, otherwise pure afk

[livid jasper]

bubo is good for pushing?

[strange prism]

not really

Blood Beserker afk - DK/ES active

[warm grove]

if your dmg doesn't suck kind of, but early on usually no

[indigo stratus]

90 frags? I got 140+ bones already

[livid jasper]

bubo is good for pushing?

bubo is meme or actually good lol?

[warm grove]

fellas im running low on things to active farm what should I do?

[warm grove]

nah consult what AoDC said above

[livid jasper]

AoDC?

[strange prism]

cool but late : (

[warm grove]

this

[strange prism]

at 3b xp/hr getting another 1.4x

[livid jasper]

how tf i said it 2 times lol

[warm grove]

lag?

[livid jasper]

yea i think connection problem haha

[livid jasper]

f2p just go BB then ? since no autoloot?

[warm grove]

yeah probably

[livid jasper]

u reach W5 already ?

[warm grove]

uhh yeah you could say that

[remote plover]

how does vmans left and right hand of learning affect himself? is it literally just active constantly or does his lvl have to be lower than someone elses

[warm grove]

it affects himself if you have the eclipse enhancement, otherwise it doesn't

[remote plover]

i know. im just wondering how the "affecting himself" works, since he cant have a lower skill level than himself

[warm grove]

oh it's always active on himself

hmm, what a collection I have

[livid jasper]

how much difference between active ES/DK compared with BB afk ?
2x or 5x or how?

[warm grove]

probably like 3x or so with the vault upgrade that increases kills count when active

[indigo stratus]

Really depends on your mk and talents

[livid jasper]

mk?

[indigo stratus]

Multi kill

[livid jasper]

what is that lol

[warm grove]

it's the W3 feature you unlock in construction

[livid jasper]

not opened yet

[warm grove]

hmm, that's a bit of connection range

[strange flare]

[keen lynx]

how do i get the atom that increases the pow count

[ruby pagoda]

So i got boulder tower maxed and green tower at 40. is it wise to use green one over boulder?

[warm grove]

yeah i'd swap to poisonic at that point

[ruby pagoda]

awesome ty. i didnt know how to check the dps rate for each

[warm grove]

just keep buying the next atom in the collider until you get it

[mint meadow]

How do I get the higher tier skull mobs in rift, just rng?

[warm grove]

when you kill a mob it can give another mob its skull and upgrade it if its the same tier, so kill most of the mobs but not all of them to stack up skull lvls

[mint meadow]

thanks

[frail spade]

How low do you guys drop your chance for next pet?

[warm grove]

like currently or when I was pushing breeding?

huge CC

[frail spade]

At my stage?

[warm grove]

uhh it was about the same, could be up to 1 in 100 depending on what upgrades you'd have

[honest cradle]

I Just do it until I cant afford

[ruby pagoda]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[honest cradle]

Then blast the pet I need

[frail spade]

Okay okay

[warm grove]

hmm, my lab bubo is putting in work

alright nice claim

[honest cradle]

u have 2 bubo?

[warm grove]

well I do but I could do the same with only 1

[honest cradle]

I hear 2 bubo bad

[true hamlet]

No

[strange flare]

because it is

[warm grove]

It was less than ideal back in the day, but now it's really not that bad at all, slightly lower prints is all, and we shall see with the new masterclass

[true hamlet]

Yeah

[indigo stratus]

Slightly lower prints, but good for cc

[honest cradle]

how is that good for cc?

[indigo stratus]

Bc they're gonna be stuck in lab/divinity/hole til next master

Having 2 let's you cycle it

[true hamlet]

Also less pain for lab jail

[warm grove]

true, and my lab lvls are going crazy right now

[elfin parcel]

which island should i get first i have 44

[true hamlet]

Shimmer

No, trash

My bad 😂

[elfin parcel]

GUYS HOW DO I LEAVE TRASH ISLAND

[warm grove]

teleport or use the bottled town teleport

[elfin parcel]

Oh

Ok

[strange prism]

stuck there forever

[warm grove]

dang, just got like 260m from one quick worship

[ruby pagoda]

does stacking shinies increase its level rate

[warm grove]

yeah it does, linearly

[ruby pagoda]

wait really? so its wise to stack all shiny increase ones to level it high?

[warm grove]

if you are trying to get a specific bonus yeah, but if you have a few that you want, it's best to just use a few of each or just 1 if you got a lot you want

[ruby pagoda]

whats the recommended level to keep the shiny pets at?

[warm grove]

that depends greatly on your shiny speed, just know each level gets significantly harder to achieve

[strange flare]

start with 5 on good ones, 6-7 on shiny speed pets

[warm grove]

ayy there we go

[true hamlet]

Grr you're 2 minutes ahead of me

[warm grove]

well give me another minute and you'll see something better

[true hamlet]

Traps

[full beacon]

does bamboo spice even required after meal discovery?

[true hamlet]

Maybe

Upgrading kitchens?

[strange prism]

kitchen upgrades for cabbage

[warm grove]

now we are talking

[true hamlet]

Gshard?

[warm grove]

marble

[full beacon]

none of the tables has it as a spice upgrade tho? or am I missing something

this is my final table

[strange prism]

[warm grove]

I could theoretically just candy out some godshard bars and get them all to gs, might do that if it doesn't take forever

[true hamlet]

Yeah

[true hamlet]

Then maybe no use

[full beacon]

lol

[true hamlet]

I meant gshard when lol 😂

[full beacon]

alrigh I'll take it off for now, it's impacting the one before it due to nuke

[strange prism]

cant even check on wiki cause whenever you click the spice it brings up a pointless info tab

[warm grove]

ah well maybe in like 30 minutes then

[strange prism]

do any of the chips or jewels take it

[full beacon]

ahhh

130days to gitgud

[warm grove]

no way you are getting that, just get to lab 2100

[full beacon]

eh really

130d to get 10k?

[warm grove]

yes for real

look at this

I have not spent a drop of those last spices

[full beacon]

😂

[warm grove]

been there for quite some time

[full beacon]

what's the rationale behind doing alchemics on the early ones compared to burger/miasma/forager for mid to end

[strange prism]

missing out

[warm grove]

uhh haven't actually fixed all my territories give me a sec to look at it

[true hamlet]

Also not worth to waste darklanterns on things you can get for free

[strange prism]

spices fly if you have converters and use candies often

[warm grove]

oh yeah how much can you guys hold in your material bags now with all the new buffs? i got like 9m a slot

[true hamlet]

I want to say 5 to 6m

[strange prism]

like base or with prayer n such

[true hamlet]

I think prayers?

[warm grove]

like with the prayer, say if you are active farming I guess

[strange prism]

[true hamlet]

Active farm I would never 😂

[warm grove]

what the hell

[true hamlet]

Gem shop

[warm grove]

oh my god, exalted chopping cap is crazy

[strange prism]

need stamp levels

[warm grove]

also pinchy stamps fr

[strange prism]

why would you not exalt that?...

[warm grove]

haven't gotten around to it y'know

[strange prism]

1 above was vman, this is what bubo can hold

Im hoping we get an ability to remove exalted stamps, being a test dummy has wasted a few

[warm grove]

lol

[near latch]

So i heard next vote will make it huge for lab gains, when does it start

[strange prism]

it wont be, cause people dont know how to vote

[indigo stratus]

Never, bc it's not gonna win

[near latch]

wtf

[strange prism]

granted breeding xp is better so

[indigo stratus]

Lab exp is useless for many players

[near latch]

sigh, i was looking forward to leaving my dudes in lab all week

[strange prism]

Lab 101

• Bubo

[near latch]

I need to complete my lab jail, wouldve been fun to get more bang for my buck while doing it...

[warm grove]

dang from a single 1 hour candy, this will be easier than I thought, might even get the vial

[indigo stratus]

Do it once you push w5. No spoilers, but it'll make sense eventaully

[viscid quartz]

will run out of fuel so fast

[warm grove]

candying godshard on my DK at the same time

[near latch]

Im already up to fire spirits, im almost done pushing w5

[indigo stratus]

Divinity, goat god. Put em in lab and they get divinity progress too.

[near latch]

Already got that

But since i havent finished divinity, and i need to get to doing it, i wanted to get the extra 147% so it doesnt feel as bad having my whole team essentially picking their nose

[teal finch]

i relatively recently unlocked the atom collider and have gotten my prints to the point where i get a trickle of atoms... currently sitting on about 4k of them... should i focus on particular atoms or should i unlock them all first? would it be a better use of this initial influx of atoms to dump into divinity/hole bonuses? (note i still don't have alchemy bubbles i can boron click, working on that)

[warm grove]

damn all my gshard got eaten up

[karmic sand]

can someone tell me the best lineup to beat the last pet boss in spices?

[warm grove]

you can check it in autoreview

[full beacon]

I got like 3 equinox gonna complete basically all at the same time

[vocal forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDWJCkucULI

whole video has more info,

[warm grove]

alright I made a slight oversight, only one of my guys can equip the godshard skull

thankfully I did not craft all the skulls

[eternal thistle]

What would be better to farm for Nuget Cake, ES or Bubo or DK?

[warm grove]

ES

[karmic sand]

tyvm

[placid berry]

[odd osprey]

Is it normal to have accuracy issues mid w4? Lv145 dk is like 75% on the soda cans. Have acc in cards stamps and 100 wis

[strange prism]

does that.. even work anymore

[odd osprey]

I reckon that's just normal progression grind at this point but thought mbe I'm missing something stupid lol

[stable fossil]

Yep do the w2 fishing pond minigame for % accuracy

[vocal forge]

ES for basic monster drops

DK for statues/"rares" in the blue bags (check cards section for monster drops)

Bubo for money/XP.

so ES best for those

[odd osprey]

Ah yeah I have been doing it for a couple days now but forgot it gives acc. Thanks!

[vocal forge]

pretty sure it still will. I used that exact video/strategy a few months ago. I dont think anything changed since. I had ~50k power for each pet

[eternal thistle]

Thank you, this help a lot actually

[latent bramble]

Slight clarification

DK for crystal mob drops
ES for other "rare drops" including some in blue bags which aren't on the crystal's loot tables (like wood mush bullseye statue)

[warm grove]

damn these resamples are gonna be mega high soon, this isn't even full min max yet and it's almost 5x higher

[indigo stratus]

I don't even wanna check mine

[eternal thistle]

So ES would still be good let say I want the bag G from crabby cake?

[honest cradle]

aye, mosquitos went from 967 to 6.6k

prints getting better

[warm grove]

nothing to give you a reason to resample I get it

[vocal forge]

I use DK for anything inside blue bags, personally.
I'm not a fan of ES entirely.

DK definitely best for Crystals/statues regardless

[strange prism]

Just play WW and you'll have a reason

[indigo stratus]

I got reason to, atoms, but don't wanna

[strange prism]

Need a preset button that pulls items off every character and puts them on 1

[warm grove]

kind of like obols where you can take them from other characters but for their equips

[viscid quartz]

i need that for chips im still broke on those

[hexed ridge]

just made it to w4, gg

[eternal thistle]

Can you only reset subclass twice? Do those 2 reset subclass tokens in the shop ever get refresh?

[hexed ridge]

just need to afk in the kitchen for 15 minutes before I can kill mobs smh

[warm grove]

they should I believe

[latent bramble]

there are elite swap tokens that sometimes come into the LTO shop

[viscid quartz]

which first?

[dusty palm]

I imagine i should probably stop this at some point?

[vale basin]

Does anyone know how to disable pet auto abilities during territory fights?

So like, not the toggle. But to toggle a single pet.

[dusty palm]

gotta do it before hand for some reason

[vale basin]

Oh.. for real..? ._. sadge

[eternal ridge]

is royal sampler worth it?
Mine's level 5/20
Dont think its worth it since we need to remove the sample anyway to deactivate the prayer

[full beacon]

it's S tier

you don't care about the removal aspect because you never wanna remove it

[fleet shell]

What's the line up for pet spice battles

[eternal ridge]

So just leave the prayer on the whole time?

[warm grove]

you use royal sampler for a very long time until your sample size is 90% without it

I still use it because i'm too lazy to take it off all of my guys and reprint

[eternal ridge]

Fair point

[warm grove]

even though my sample size is well over 90% without it

[full beacon]

most, if not all of the negative prayer debuffs are additive in a huge ocean of positive buffs

I think shiny snitch is the only thing I can think of that has an X but I'm really not that sure how that factors in

kinda unclear

[eternal ridge]

Alrighty
Thanks all

[warm grove]

shiny snitch is always worth having on for shinies

[full beacon]

yea it's still amazing just really hard to figure out if/when there's a threshold of lvling it too high for your shiny chance

I left mine at 25 for now I think, didn't wanna brick it

[warm grove]

ah mine is max, I got 100% shiny rate with it

[full beacon]

one day

[strange prism]

would make prints so much easier

[warm grove]

gonna do a slightly unoptimized speedrun since I haven't done one since 48 portals apparently???

[limpid bough]

Why is my gigafrogs sample smaller than my mafioso sample????

[hexed ridge]

what is the purple armor in the !gear screenshot?

anvil tab 3 metal armor?

[warm grove]

yeah its dementia gear

[hexed ridge]

oof, okay, is it worth going out of my way to get mining levels and trying to get the gear now, or stick with amarok?

[warm grove]

nah amarok is actually better since the higher world upgrade stones are really good, and amarok has more upgrade slots

[hexed ridge]

I see, and would I need to recraft it for diff upgrade stones?

[warm grove]

yeah

[hexed ridge]

that's not so big a deal with the 3d printer now though at least

I can rotate my current set downwards to my other chars too

I think bullfrog horns and corn kernels are the most annoying mats to get lol

iron is breezy now

[pine gale]

For me its sand

[hexed ridge]

I mean for amarok armor

[pine gale]

Ah ok

[hexed ridge]

grass leafs are probably pretty bad when I run out too

because you can't print them I think?

[pine gale]

Iirc you can

Maybe?

If you just keep pressing printer sample

You might get it. Though I personally haven’t gotten it

[hexed ridge]

ah okay, I've sampled like 5 diff trees so far and haven't gotten it though

so if it's equally weighted it's unlikely

[warm grove]

grass leaf?

[hexed ridge]

yes

[warm grove]

nah you can't sample that unfortunately

[hexed ridge]

oof yea

I don't actually have enough to craft another amarok set either, so I guess I'm sitting my shaman back on a tree lmao

w4 mobs really hurt

so I'm just trying to upgrade my gear now

in fact, I have fist of rage maxed out for my archer and I'm still missing on w4 mobs 🥲

oeuf

is it time to focus on stamps, statues, and alchemy?

[warm grove]

did you upgrade your gear with your substat?

[left stream]

there are a few accuracy cards that can help, i had a bunch of gold bars farmed up when i hit w4, they help a bit.

[hexed ridge]

not yet, it's why I'm working on gear upgrades now

just have w3 stone amarok

[warm grove]

you know how to do it with the new stones yeah?

[hexed ridge]

ye

[warm grove]

alright then you'll be set

[hexed ridge]

swap to barb, apply for accuracy

current gear lmao

[woeful hedge]

guys what is the best pets i can use with 4 spots i have till wod pored and whale

[hexed ridge]

I can make iron rings now, but I've never done party dungeons so I don't have those rings

[left stream]

pet effects are account passive, just having them gives u the passive

[vocal forge]

for Spice battles,

for Arena,

Source: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[left stream]

ohhh pet arena. yes Terris got it spot on lol

[vocal forge]

probably a little outdated, but mostly valid information

[hexed ridge]

dang, grass leafs are 1/250 for 5, so effective 1/50

I'll need to camp this char here for a while to get enough grass leafs to deck out 3-4 characters with amarok

with w4 stones

[indigo stratus]

Guys if you switch character can someone know youre the same person?

[left stream]

not really

[indigo stratus]

So if i trade you

[hexed ridge]

I actually want to know why it's relevant more than I want to know the answer

[indigo stratus]

I’m just curious

[hexed ridge]

also are there any decent rings I can get at this point outside of the dungeon rings?

or just iron ring

[worn raptor]

iron ring ever

[hexed ridge]

oof

[left stream]

i can check for you 1 sec

[worn raptor]

maybe zero point stopwatch but only for print mob mats or use candy for kill mobs

and emperor but for me, best ring in da game is serrated rex

[warm grove]

damn, realistically could get 79 if I really locked in and had good books

pretty good for a speedrun that I haven't done in probably close to a year

[left stream]

have you finished the quests in the tree on w1? theres a ring that gives u accuracy

[hexed ridge]

Oh neat, I can do that

I might just suck it up and leech some party dungeons for the rings though

[hexed ridge]

oh that's pretty good actually

worse than dungeon ring still? wtf

[dense fable]

is there a cap for Talent book Checkout ?

[hexed ridge]

20 I think

[warm grove]

the current cap is 299 with ultra min max

[left stream]

level cap for talent books is 400

but thats like super late game

[dense fable]

both answerss are perfect ty

[hexed ridge]

nice lol

[warm grove]

no? book lvl cap is 299, the talents have no real cap at this point, but around 400 yeah

[mental skiff]

guys it says “version mismatch” but I can’t update the game what should I do

[vocal forge]

cap for amount of checkouts? No.
cap for highest book level you can claim? 299
highest total level (with every bonus). ~400, but book level still 299

[worn raptor]

Why do you despise the Serrated Rex Ring so much?

[warm grove]

what do you play on?

[mental skiff]

Iphone

[left stream]

i might be thinking overall level

[dense fable]

rip

[hexed ridge]

I don't I just don't want to do party dungeons

[worn raptor]

i cant see the problem tbh

[warm grove]

you try going to the app store and searching up idleon and seeing if you can update it there

[mental skiff]

ok

[worn raptor]

bruh it's joke?

[warm grove]

lol I use them damn rings in all my loadouts when not using opals

[hexed ridge]

sorry im stupid

[strange prism]

holy w6 gfood

[worn raptor]

1 dungeon each week give x20 + prayer

[mental skiff]

looks like I can’t

[worn raptor]

and serrated just 80

._.

[dense fable]

how do I increase my Highest book level ? only construction or are there other options too?

[warm grove]

310k W6 gfood damn

[warm grove]

you can try uninstalling and reinstalling if you know your login

[mental skiff]

ok ill try

[strange prism]

more then that, look at all the golden dumplings

[warm grove]

oh damn I didn't even see them

[strange prism]

40k on 8

[warm grove]

so close to 620k total

crazy

[strange prism]

550k golden nomwiches

[warm grove]

that's probably a few days of dk if I had to guess

[winged raft]

should i candy my way to rifts or do i just grind it

[warm grove]

to rifts or in rift? because you can't candy in rift

[winged raft]

to get to rifts

im like 2 maps off

[vocal forge]

two Coblat robes and 4 anniversary nametags.

sus if you ask me.

[warm grove]

not worth it if you gotta candy imo

[left stream]

yeah id wait

[warm grove]

ok to be fair I didn't spend a single cent on the event and got 3

[left stream]

rifts have lotsa different challenges

[warm grove]

so 4 isn't that crazy

[winged raft]

my kills are only 3k/hr and the portals are like 150k each :C

[strange prism]

you can candy rift?

[worn raptor]

well, say that to lava, i won a fall guys lobby in stream and give 2 cobalt pack for both winnners lmao

[warm grove]

holy moly, now I can do those 5m kills afk in an hour instead of waiting 4 minutes and claiming the afk

[worn raptor]

and nt are just lucky, i bought 3 pets packs so, dont cry

[strange prism]

I could wow in 1 minute instead of 20 hours

[vocal forge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i don't snitch.

[warm grove]

that's just a day of leaving db on rift though

[strange prism]

a day too long

[warm grove]

that's crazy, what else are you doing with him?

[strange prism]

literally anywhere else where he would actually get items lmao

[warm grove]

what items???

[strange prism]

anywhere

you dont even get coins in rift

doesnt matter either way unfortunately

[mental skiff]

i’m back, download again don’t work.

[warm grove]

no like I mean what else is there to even farm with db at a point? I literally have nothing left for him to do except kill in the caverns and the grimoire

[left stream]

apocalypse, wow's, chow's

[warm grove]

damn not sure what to say then

[mental skiff]

ok

[strange prism]

again, literally anything

something is better then nothing

[left stream]

i think the ios update hasnt been pushed yet

[warm grove]

too late for that

[strange prism]

just checked and it would be 10hs in candys to wow

• but cant candy anyways

[warm grove]

but it isn't nothing, it's a whole wow, that's gfood %, you are thinking about it wrong

[strange prism]

No coins, no mob drops for more gs gear, no chances at recipes I still need, nothing

[vocal forge]

just try harder, might work next time

[warm grove]

I feel like you would do all of these things on other classes

[strange prism]

idk how you can struggle with candy so much that 10 hours sounds unreasonable

[warm grove]

wait when was that the problem? I literally used 250 hours of candy to wow the roots

[strange prism]

then whats the point in your reaction

[warm grove]

hold up I forgot let me scroll back up

[strange prism]

[warm grove]

oh yeah, waiting a day on him

[vocal forge]

🤤

[warm grove]

I dunno, you could just shift around where you use the candies so it's effectively being used for the same amount of time if you get what i'm saying

[strange prism]

even with 200m/hr in w1 i still used candies for wowing

I want buff now, not later

[worn raptor]

spend allin fractal

[warm grove]

well I mean yeah why wouldn't you candy wows unless its W6

[vocal forge]

more fun to hoard. I don't care about Zzzz trophy.
-1 slab.

[warm grove]

but the other buffs

[worn raptor]

unique trophy with afk gain lmao

[vocal forge]

i dont care about Zzzz trophy.
I'm aware of what it does

[honest cradle]

mammoth wont give me another bag 💔

[warm grove]

using ES or foolish?

[worn raptor]

low

[vocal forge]

cool.

[honest cradle]

es yes

[worn raptor]

wait

im sad

[vocal forge]

i don't whale on phone games, but i'm happy you enjoy the game.

[worn raptor]

i just play the game

[stiff crystal]

guy where is za location for the secret map (w2)

[warm grove]

hey now I got close to 500% afk gains with goharut setup in div instead of sneeb on my guys

[silver nymph]

I almost get 200%

[warm grove]

not bad for early on honestly

[silver nymph]

Yippee

[warm grove]

fr I probably had like 110% when I was in W5 if even that

[vocal forge]

whale.

[warm grove]

nah that's a goated name

[wispy pecan]

Hey guys which all characters should I push to rift ?

I have 1 dk there

[left stream]

check around crabby cakes

[worn raptor]

why you flex me your account and after that cry i cant understand

[silver nymph]

That's just my auto review but idk if I've gotten any afk gain from w6

[warm grove]

probably only push the guys that gotta be there, otherwise dk can handle it, maybe bb as well

[left stream]

check crab cakes

[worn raptor]

for afk kills?

[wispy pecan]

K

[wispy pecan]

Rift challenges

[silver nymph]

Can't u just tp there

[wispy pecan]

Wait u can

Lol I thought I had to unlock that on others too

[vocal forge]

I wasn't flexing my account.

I was showing that a 10% AFK trophy isn't something I care about with as much AFK rate as I had.

you showed off your entire character list prior to this conversation, then got defensive when I mentioned your account looked sus, and told me not to cry because you whale'd.

I couldn't care less, honestly. I feel like its just being argumentative for the sake of an argument.

[exotic swallow]

idleoneers casually having a beef over dumb reasons lmao

perfect

[vocal forge]

true,

[warm grove]

lightpink I liked your previous name better, it really resonated with me

[exotic swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/teto-kasane-teto-teto-plush-kasane-teto-plush-crush-it-gif-16166927453889012815

[warm grove]

NOOOO TETO

[silver nymph]

Guys don't fight just laugh at my afk rate

[warm grove]

hey, I could probably get to your afk rate if I locked in

rucksack, no god links, no cards, I could manage it

[worn raptor]

good afk for newbie

[warm grove]

yeah i judge people based on their gamestage

[stiff crystal]

ty

[silver nymph]

Endgame challenge lowest afk rate wins

[exotic swallow]

glad I dont sweat over a 10% higher number

[vocal forge]

also true,

[silver nymph]

I gotta update my gamestage actually

[warm grove]

I am stuck on Early W7 prep forever until my farming requirements are met, WHICH ARE ABSURD BY THE WAY

[silver nymph]

I'm gatekeeped by vials

[warm grove]

WHO IS GETTING 116 1K STACKS AT THIS STAGE???

[worn raptor]

Don't take the W7 section so seriously, we don't even know what it's going to be like yet.

[warm grove]

I know, but I like to see the number go up and am already getting done with the solid W7 prep, all progression is good progression

[silver nymph]

I'm almost done farming these dumb drop rate obols too

[worn raptor]

take time

if you arent a whale, more

[silver nymph]

I wish you could auto fragment

[hexed ridge]

if I get to a point where I don't have enough accuracy for 100% hit rate even with amarok + acc upgrade stone, I should just spend some time doing stamps + alch right?

[exotic swallow]

dont worry just do it slowly

[worn raptor]

yessir, and lvl shaquraccy from bubbles

[warm grove]

yeah, farming is actually making good progress right now with stacking both the OG upgrades in the land ranks so I can consistently buy upgrades

enjoy farming challenge, level expert

[vocal forge]

what level are your land ranks around?

farming was such a slow start in the beginning that it made me put it off for a while

[warm grove]

758 total so around 30-40 for most

[worn raptor]

did u end summoning?

give a lot of mult speed

[warm grove]

getting good overgrowth on most crops so when I come back to claim its up to 256x sometimes

[silver nymph]

Farming sucks I don't understand it

I'm just chasing land plot upgrades

[left stream]

Yep! Alch and stamps are always good. If your in w4 cooking has some good dishes too

[warm grove]

yeah I am plenty into summoning, at 81 endless and can do more but no lane stacking is awful

[exotic swallow]

just do it buddy, there's nothing to it

[worn raptor]

i mean, normal battles, before endless

[vocal forge]

farming starts to ramp up relatively quickly after a while, but takes a while before it gets to that point

[hexed ridge]

ye just made it to w4, w4 mobs are hard to hit and hit very hard

first time I'm actually needing to think about gear lol

[silver nymph]

I just click it

[silver nymph]

If you miss a crop do you really just have to start back from the first one

Baller

[vocal forge]

fun thing about idleon, always stuff to upgrade and micro-manage.

[warm grove]

my crop speed is actually pretty solid right now, only 39 minutes on glassy crops, also maxing most of my vials, only a few anvil ones left

[left stream]

Yeah :p Rinse and repeat alch stamps cooking. Maybe statue farm a bit. Level up your shrines maybe.

[strange prism]

late game whale disagrees

[exotic swallow]

only 39 min on glassy crops

[warm grove]

well now 36 after the speed upgrade from my claim

still have to get more of the crop upgrades in the day market

[worn raptor]

what about night market?

[vocal forge]

have to lock them ahead of time, unfortunately. Idk how far you are, but

try not to focus too much on getting one specific upgrade super high. Level everything gradually, focus on unlocking OverGrowth, Land Ranks and then push Farming XP until it speeds up.

lots of resetting/crop exchanging to be done before it takes off

[worn raptor]

speed gmo?

[warm grove]

got it up to 7.5 as per autoreview and it's giving me a 4x bonus from 40 crops

[worn raptor]

and super gmo?

how much value crop? 10k is the cap

[warm grove]

it's a bit out of my range for now, both value and super for the most part

[warm grove]

damn, I got 15x and it felt nice

[worn raptor]

a few months value gmo from night market disable, but after lava up the cap 1k to 10k he turned on

value it's so important, get value gmo and crop value from land rank make a big diff

maybe 36 glassy but you can get 1k every 36 mins or more

[elfin parcel]

I love you w3

[left stream]

W3 fun

[elfin parcel]

Should i start my w3

[worn raptor]

recraft amarok set + class pusher helmet and put w3 stones and enjoy

[elfin parcel]

My amarok is stoneless

[exotic swallow]

Zoro my beloved ❤️ 🫃

[worn raptor]

better

[elfin parcel]

I think I’ll stone it at w4

Since i got golem to help me push

[worn raptor]

just recraft it, amarok set for w4 guy is so easy .-.

[elfin parcel]

Accuracy build?

[worn raptor]

yeah, i end w5 to w6 without enough accuracy

it's better get more accuracy than you need it

[elfin parcel]

Give amarok set to my mage guy right

To put stone stone mage is wis base

[hexed ridge]

whats a good helmet to be using early w4?

[astral lava]

Dementia or void

[hexed ridge]

ok, so just camp my squire on metal till I can mine dementia basically?

[worn raptor]

class helmet

[astral lava]

Listen to Remi

[hexed ridge]

class helmet is a good shout

[warm grove]

🗿

[astral lava]

Early progression has changed soooo much

[warm grove]

the class helmets will forever be trash in my mind ngl

[worn raptor]

you can reach w6 with amarok and class helmet with full w5 stones

[hexed ridge]

I've been using this goofy ahh thing

[elfin parcel]

What’s a class helm

[worn raptor]

easy to get it, +2 or +´3 free stones

[vocal forge]

cute

[elfin parcel]

I’m making my barb do mining while squire for pushing for dk

[warm grove]

oh I thought we were talking about the anvil tab 3 ones

[elfin parcel]

Is this valid?

[worn raptor]

well you have 2 warriors only so ig

[warm grove]

uh, certainly interesting, is the dk active pushing?

[elfin parcel]

My plan is dk then es

[worn raptor]

i like more barb fishing, dk mining and bowman pushing

[elfin parcel]

Im still in w2..

Im pushing squire so it will go for dk

[warm grove]

ah, dang, yeah

[worn raptor]

barb fishing / squire mining / hunter catching / all mages chopping / bowman pushing

i do this with my second account

[elfin parcel]

I do barb mining/fishing bowman catching shaman chopping

Squire hunter pushing

[compact pagoda]

[worn raptor]

bowman have the highest dmg with wizard

[hexed ridge]

I'm still not even close after upgrading my armor 😭

[sly nova]

Bow

[elfin parcel]

But bowman have catching talents

[worn raptor]

i get w6 with this

[warm grove]

are you using cards as well, that have been upgraded to some degree?

[astral lava]

I do barb wowing / archer respecting / mage respecting / squire respecting

[sly nova]

Nice

[compact pagoda]

im tripping

[elfin parcel]

Im planning to do dk then es

[worn raptor]

without anvil3

[warm grove]

so real, chizoar armor got me past kruk when I was pushing and needed that 15m dmg

[sly nova]

Which is?

[elfin parcel]

My wizard is nonexist yet

My plan is to push wiz after getting it as my 6th

[compact pagoda]

the site is tripping

[elfin parcel]

Since i heard dk and es is a bit ok

[sly nova]

😭💀

[compact pagoda]

i can't even check where my exam at

[warm grove]

that means don't go

[worn raptor]

Do you own Sheepie?

[elfin parcel]

Yes

[hexed ridge]

swapped cards and that helped a good bit

[worn raptor]

sad

[hexed ridge]

just need another 800 accuracy :p

[compact pagoda]

acc problems

[hexed ridge]

wait, I have the accuracy active skill

I'm gaming lads

[sly nova]

Lol

[worn raptor]

get prayer

[elfin parcel]

I only own golem deer slug ram sheepie pot molti giga poison

[compact pagoda]

5% multi 🤯

[worn raptor]

lv5 is decent

[elfin parcel]

I’m just 3 days in the game so i only have few

You giving me some?

[worn raptor]

no good pets atm

[elfin parcel]

I need the basic ones ngl

[worn raptor]

all already traded

[compact pagoda]

yall are getting pets 🤯

[compact pagoda]

i see that sneaky mole

[elfin parcel]

Yo can i get a frog jkjk

Or the mole

That shi will be overused

[sly nova]

Rule?

[elfin parcel]

Ngl ive seen worse in trading discussion and they did nothing

They have favoritism

[sly nova]

Rats

[elfin parcel]

You can back read there and random scroll up and check your screen there will be like that

[sly nova]

White on screen?

[elfin parcel]

Wild

[compact pagoda]

white

[sly nova]

Who's we're whitening?

[compact pagoda]

shadow

[warm grove]

what did I miss???

[sly nova]

Wild

[elfin parcel]

Me

[compact pagoda]

[elfin parcel]

I missed you too

[warm grove]

thanks

[compact pagoda]

fella really need those pets

i remember someone sending feeet pics for pets 💀 to artics

[elfin parcel]

Was it you?

[compact pagoda]

lemme check

[warm grove]

that sounds about right

[sly nova]

Time for gfood farming

[elfin parcel]

Im done for today i got free golem and deer

[warm grove]

damn that's crazy

[elfin parcel]

Ye

[compact pagoda]

getting doot when

[sly nova]

[elfin parcel]

In 4 years

I’m 3 days in

[compact pagoda]

u get a treat soon dw

[sly nova]

Wild frfr

[elfin parcel]

Deer is long term investment i have no arcade bonuses

[warm grove]

is it an investment if you got it for free?

[elfin parcel]

They told me to wait for lava balls day

[sly nova]

Hmmm

[warm grove]

yeah you gotta wait for lava's balls

[elfin parcel]

I mean the stat it gives

Long term investment

1 ball per hour is wild

[exotic swallow]

I want to get dust bonus in arcade maxed ngl

but I am poor on balls

[sly nova]

Sell ball for more balls

[warm grove]

yeah same but I know using the balls not during an event is just screwing myself in the long term

[exotic swallow]

and killroy kinda meh this week

[elfin parcel]

When is lavas ball

[sly nova]

Wait for updates

[warm grove]

we will see when he shows us his ball

[sly nova]

Or event

[compact pagoda]

remember this ?

[sly nova]

HAHHAHA NAHHH WILD 😭✌🏻

[elfin parcel]

Eh a trap

[warm grove]

I mean yeah I was there for that

[sly nova]

Bro still got that as evidence

[astral lava]

I remember sneaky

[sly nova]

She's the one that send feet pic right?

[warm grove]

spoiler, not a she

[elfin parcel]

I bet they’re fake ones

[sly nova]

Yea he's sneaky

[sly nova]

💀✌🏻

[elfin parcel]

That’s obvious ngl discord server is 100% biologically males

[compact pagoda]

im him

[warm grove]

no like I was there when he was asking me for help as to what an e-girls bio would be

[worn raptor]

juicy

[compact pagoda]

shush

[astral lava]

Wut

[sly nova]

HAHAHHA

[compact pagoda]

don't leak the information 🤯

[warm grove]

wait who said killroy was bad this week?

[sly nova]

Bro ain't no way

[elfin parcel]

What does that do

[sly nova]

That's good for WW

[warm grove]

exactly, WW is crazy

[astral lava]

It's good

[worn raptor]

kill mobs with timer and get some upgrades

[elfin parcel]

W orth doing w2 progress?

[compact pagoda]

should i go back to old old self 🩶

[worn raptor]

yeah, obviusly, you cant get so much kills but it's better start asap

and always choose +1 timer

[sly nova]

Farming nigiri gonna be a pain in the ass

[elfin parcel]

Do i need to bring anything

[compact pagoda]

always until when ?

[warm grove]

yeah byob

[worn raptor]

tbh idk

[sly nova]

You're? Going to be bully again?

[strange prism]

think its 180

[exotic swallow]

meanwhile mine: 1 archer on beans, 1 warrior on mimics and beginneer on w3 snakes

[compact pagoda]

🤫

[sly nova]

[elfin parcel]

Is killroy one time thing a week?

[sly nova]

Ys

[astral lava]

2 times in a week for some people...

[warm grove]

not for me

[elfin parcel]

So how do i know which one is good to pick?

[sly nova]

Bro hoarding his gems like it's his life 😂

[warm grove]

it is though

[sly nova]

[exotic swallow]

I would gladly spend gems on that rn to upg my killroy/balls

[compact pagoda]

i found the gem daus

[sly nova]

Understandable

[sly nova]

? You stole?

Or "found"

[compact pagoda]

this wilder

[sly nova]

BROOO 😭😭

[white lintel]

It’s a pretty good week to buy killroy

[elfin parcel]

That’s a man

[compact pagoda]

oh no gotta disappear

[white lintel]

Why the fuck did I come back to that

[warm grove]

[sly nova]

Bro is a victim

[elfin parcel]

Arctis is wild to keep that nglp

[exotic swallow]

if it was more than 1 archer for me I would

[white lintel]

Ain’t it 2 archer 1 mage?

[compact pagoda]

ur new u wouldn't understand

[elfin parcel]

So arctis gave the doot or scammed him?

[sly nova]

"now where my doot at?" Is crazy 😂✌🏻

[compact pagoda]

im him
mentality

[white lintel]

Nope

Still in my invo

[robust marsh]

hey the bonus dmg we get from weekly boss is parmanent or resets evrey week?

[compact pagoda]

no he gave gim some other pet

[warm grove]

I mean if I could get a doot that easy i'd do the same thing

[sly nova]

Reset when it's end

[exotic swallow]

check for urself

[atomic scroll]

resets every week

[white lintel]

Did weekly just happen?

[robust marsh]

👍

[robust marsh]

nope

[sly nova]

Shave those hairy legs first 😂✌🏻

[white lintel]

It’s 2 archer and 1 mage bruh

[warm grove]

how'd you know?

[exotic swallow]

my killroy is 1 archer at beans, warrior at mimics and beginneer on w3 snakes

[white lintel]

Wasting my teleports

[sly nova]

Wait what?

I know ? 😂

Pretty good almost 2k dumplings per hour

[compact pagoda]

wsg chat

[sly nova]

HAHHAA 😭✌🏻

[warm grove]

he's back in his full glory

[sly nova]

Back to being bullied

😂

[compact pagoda]

be better

[compact pagoda]

u ain't in w3 yet

[sly nova]

Yes

[exotic swallow]

🙏

[sly nova]

I'm ahead of you lil bro

[compact pagoda]

u lil

[sly nova]

👴🏻

[compact pagoda]

ahead in death huh

[sly nova]

Yes

[compact pagoda]

be better

[warm grove]

death? deathnote?

[sly nova]

Be the best

Death bringer

[warm grove]

alright whos got the most wows?

[white lintel]

Not me

Mine neglected as hell

[compact pagoda]

where's ur afk bone

[sly nova]

Darkred bean

[warm grove]

If anybody got 84 wows I applaud them

[sly nova]

😭✌🏻

[compact pagoda]

didn't u say ur ahead

[warm grove]

NAH I GOT THE MOST WOWS IN CHAT

[compact pagoda]

84 when

[warm grove]

uhhh soon, give me like 2 weeks of doot door farming

[compact pagoda]

i see

[sly nova]

Candy

[compact pagoda]

i ask in a few days

[sly nova]

I use mine 80

[compact pagoda]

no 1 k

[warm grove]

oh yeah we balling this time

[sly nova]

Wtf

Sybau

[compact pagoda]

no i ain't From sybau