midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[thorny zinc]

its not christmas

[frail spade]

How am I supposed to know

I bought everything

[thorny zinc]

😭

[frail spade]

Maybe soon I'll get an equinox 2.0

[white lintel]

I think that’s about it yea

[thorny zinc]

okay thx

[thorny zinc]

merry christmas then

[strange prism]

why do you get a cool hat and we dont >: (

its got 2021 gems too, how'd you get a 4 year old pack

[thorny zinc]

he is time traveling i think

[frail spade]

Should I open them

[mossy anvil]

Lol

[frail spade]

Now I got lotsa hats

[modern pawn]

Once we get troll armor we basically use that right up until the endgame emporer armor, right? Or is there a midpoint in between troll -> end?

[thorny zinc]

bro

[main hearth]

They pop up. The Easter pack also

[thorny zinc]

its wierd

but i guess he is whaling like crazy

so shop cant recommend other bundles

[strange prism]

how

[frail spade]

Time to open christmas daddies boxes

[main hearth]

Bundles pretty cheap in this game so I don’t think it’s whaling

[thorny zinc]

i guess

crazy that he has so low stats tho with that many p2w stuff

[frail spade]

I calculated how much I spent now, and it's around 450, lotsa people spent more 😌

[mossy anvil]

sooo, i forgot. Which gambit should i start 1st?

[north oriole]

P2W doesnt mean good player

[frail spade]

I just started

Don't insult me T-T

[thorny zinc]

420 and just started

[bright marten]

i'm starting with shield off auto to time it. can i turn auto on for that skill after i start the pet battle?

[main hearth]

Yea hella cheap haha

[main hearth]

Best time to spend is as a starter. Rewards push progress way faster

[pulsar girder]

can someone doubel check if i'm understanding the Refinery Salt merit upgrade in w3 task board correctly?
i think what's going on is that the refinery costs go up faster than their outputs do when you level them up, so its more STUFF but its less EFFICIENT, and the merit board gives you a hard limit that at least the salt ingredient will at least not be the rate-limiting reagent if you're leveling the refineries evenly?

[thorny zinc]

i just think you should stop spending money and start fixing account tbh

[thorny zinc]

i guess i only spent 65 dollars

[pulsar girder]

meaning that once sample sizes are way bigger and the idea of dumping $$$ monster mats is nothing, i won't get gatekept by the refinery salt inefficiency?

[north oriole]

im already at 1k+

[frail spade]

Trying :/ kinda lost most of the time

[main hearth]

[thorny zinc]

want me to review your account?

[main hearth]

Ie auto review tool is pretty helpful

[thorny zinc]

maybe i can help you fixing it

[frail spade]

If you want to might be nicee

[strange flare]

tempest rings are goated

[thorny zinc]

yeah np just send me you it

[main hearth]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/?player=&overwhelmed=on&autoloot=on&doot=on&riftslug=on&sheepie=on&order_tiers=on&library_group_characters=off&hide_completed=on&hide_informational=on&hide_unrated=on&progress_bars=on&handedness=off&light=null

[frail spade]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Kithford

[thorny zinc]

yeah ik

[strange flare]

this one ring doubled my damage

[frail spade]

I'm using it T-T

[main hearth]

[strange prism]

54 299s for tier 2

[modern pawn]

I am pretty sure that the merit is needed to ensure your always producing at a surplus. As in there will never be a time where you scale the required input so high you really don't/can't produce anything?

Like eventually it would reach a point where you input a high amount and the efficiency becomes so low it would dip into the negatives, no?

[main hearth]

Oh nah 3-28 damage in bravery

[strange prism]

cheesy time

[main hearth]

[frail spade]

I just started the hole like 3 days ago T-T

[mossy anvil]

1st gambit ever

[strange prism]

bravery damage is skill levels

[strange flare]

not bad

[frail spade]

I mean maybe a little more

[main hearth]

[strange flare]

was that queen

[mossy anvil]

yes, it was queen

[strange flare]

wait what's your stats?

[main hearth]

[strange prism]

dam cleared those fast

[strange flare]

means I should be able to get like 7m

[mossy anvil]

my main summoning stats?>

[strange flare]

yeah damage and hp

[strange prism]

7 minutes is not easy lmao

[strange flare]

oh dude I can totally get 8 minutes or more

[thorny zinc]

• everyone serrated rex rings

• get better weapons for everyone

• better skulls and traps on everyone

• chiz blankie or chaotic amarok pendant on all (chiz is better)

• equip t1 splicers on everyone for extra stats

• unlock more stamps and level them up

• do more owl at least 10 fractals

• equip skill dimwit prayer on everyone

• try unlocking royal sampler (wave 21 acorn td) to get better samples

• unlock more vials (you dont have to unlock them in order btw)

• claim souls

• do killroy every week

• unlock trash island asap

• use dk refinery talent

• start doing hole

• work on cooking speed and meals

[main hearth]

[strange prism]

bro..

[strange flare]

nevermind that's crazy

[strange prism]

couldve sent that to dms

[mossy anvil]

i think costs of cards fucked me at the end coz i was spamming all the time

[strange prism]

mana regen is everything in gambit

[thorny zinc]

eh its just one message tho

[strange flare]

now you got doublers you can double your mana regen upgrades

[main hearth]

7 mins hard with that?

[strange prism]

damage isnt the issue - its mana

[main hearth]

[frail spade]

Thank you!

[thorny zinc]

no problem

[mossy anvil]

speaking of mana regen, where should i spent my doublers now

[main hearth]

Just spam ur summons for the whole duration of the match until u reach 10k%

[frail spade]

How do i work on cooking speed and meal?

[strange flare]

w4 really is a huge dust jump

[strange flare]

all the mana regen ones

[modern pawn]

I dropped all my doublers around the dmg/health/general essence gen in the cyan category

[strange flare]

including last card

[strange prism]

how many times do I need to buy out for this thing to appear, where its deleting mine

[native forge]

i can recommend gathering black dust and stopping on soda/flying worm meanwhile

[thorny zinc]

mainly you want to unlock diamon chef yellow bubble

[main hearth]

Vman pushes cooking speed by tons. Maybe grab that

[strange prism]

where I got

[thorny zinc]

and get vman

[strange flare]

noted, moon dust for damage?

[strange prism]

get that dust % up

[thorny zinc]

time for es statue farm

[strange flare]

ah

[mossy anvil]

so those and what else

[strange prism]

I pushed all dust %s and attack talents to 100m each before going into w5

[native forge]

moon for portals /and buying that 4 basic damage one

[strange flare]

one moment you have 12 right?

[strange prism]

yellow spike

seeing red - or whatever its called

[frail spade]

I don't have a vman yet T-T

[strange prism]

cyan attack/hp per endless win

[frail spade]

Oh okay thank you

[main hearth]

That’s why I said to try and get it 😭

[strange flare]

I think this + yellow spike is 12

[frail spade]

Isn't the quest to get like 1 million kills everywhere?

[mossy anvil]

had 13 at start

[main hearth]

Candy it, unless u used up all of it on smth

[thorny zinc]

another lvl 100

[mossy anvil]

this

[strange flare]

or no my picture is all 12

[modern pawn]

I put all my doublers here:

[strange flare]

copy me

[strange prism]

all forms of mana gen, seeing red, sharpened spike, infinite health/damage, units of destructions, DMG/Health laundering

[mossy anvil]

why u doubled starting mana

[strange flare]

more mana

[main hearth]

Don’t really need that. Especially if ur lacking in doublers

[frail spade]

mm okay I'll try

[strange flare]

more max mana more mana regen

[mossy anvil]

that do huge chunk of my dmg tho

[strange prism]

[strange flare]

health and essence isnt really high prio before damage

[strange flare]

just copy me I had endgamers do it

[main hearth]

yea ig but the other things increase damage by so much

[strange flare]

yellow spike is a yuge double

[main hearth]

• having regen helps so much

[mossy anvil]

thats where im at rn and have 3 left

[strange prism]

jeweled

[mint rivet]

that sucks

holy you need a guide

[strange prism]

the blue upgrade

[strange flare]

or just not listen to me

[strange prism]

its literally what you have

you need jewled on blue, and the mana ones in green

[main hearth]

Isn’t there an upgrade that gives u 6%+ mana regen for every card u use

[frail spade]

So I gotta buy 20 rex rings to get my 10 characters 2 serrated ring right?

[mint rivet]

follow this

[pulsar girder]

yeah

[strange prism]

pretty much what they have lmao

[frail spade]

Okay thank you

[mint rivet]

no its not

[strange prism]

just need jeweled and green mana buffs

[mint rivet]

its very off

Deadtype, reset doublers

[honest cradle]

finally got the scythe weapon and can start staring at anvil 4 weapons

[main hearth]

[mossy anvil]

i did grab those top tiers

[main hearth]

Nice

[strange prism]

yea thats fine

[mint rivet]

its not best setup

[mossy anvil]

i have all those except starting mana one

[mint rivet]

do hp last

[strange prism]

your missing some mana but you got the main idea

[frail spade]

Should I be keeping all these pendents?

[mossy anvil]

i grabbed all mana regens

[mint rivet]

no

[strange flare]

except starting mana

[main hearth]

If u like collecting lol. 1 of each is gud

[mossy anvil]

yea coz its not mana regen

[strange flare]

smh

[mossy anvil]

like, i dont understand why its good

[mossy anvil]

i can just expand my mana by overfilling bar

[frail spade]

One of each okay thank you

[strange prism]

less time to build mana

[mossy anvil]

and there is no mana regen based on max mana

[main hearth]

It’s too much of a stress since you’ll be doing dungeon every week tho

[thorny zinc]

1K/20k

[strange prism]

Like I said, you have the main idea - just need that mana one

[mossy anvil]

alright, i will save pic that bean send and will see how it feels

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-face-palm-cartoon-gif-346931448048661134

[mossy anvil]

will redo later eventually

[strange flare]

OOM

[strange prism]

moo

[strange flare]

i mean it's not that bad, just kinda wasted on hp

[mossy anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/polish-cow-cow-dancing-dance-dancing-cow-gif-19109155

[strange flare]

i love polish cow

[strange prism]

stupid gambit

[frail spade]

Oh so I delete them all gotcha T-T

[thorny zinc]

215 for 3 slimes seems a good price

[strange prism]

died to mana

[main hearth]

It’s up to u 😭 😭
I dunno mayn 😔

[mossy anvil]

i grabbed hp coz some dude above marked it lol

[strange flare]

i send you a picture

[thorny zinc]

so you missinformed me because someone missinformed you?

[mossy anvil]

what

[thorny zinc]

sounds like a normal day on idleon server

[thorny zinc]

with the hp thing

[mossy anvil]

dude u are not even done with basic summoning, what are u talking about

we were talking about summoning doublers

[strange flare]

[thorny zinc]

nvm

[mossy anvil]

xd

[thorny zinc]

ik you were talking about doublers

[mossy anvil]

yeah

[thorny zinc]

only gambit and event gives doublers right?

[strange flare]

ye

[thorny zinc]

so no whaling

sad

[strange flare]

whale event points

i wonder how much moon dust I need to get to sodas

flying worm looks really good too

[thorny zinc]

idk i stopped at quenchies as it takes 3h to kill

[strange flare]

worth

[frail spade]

So do I put w6 stones on them?

[exotic swallow]

sigma, 30 chests, 134 case 14.9x justice run

[strange flare]

that gets you into w4

[thorny zinc]

ik but im lazy i moved to farm statues xd

[thorny zinc]

yes but with every character

[strange flare]

smh I need more gems

[main hearth]

What on earth

[wary trout]

For equinox, what should I be doing to get this set up initially?

[thorny zinc]

like you use stones with warrior for rings that you use on him and so on

[thorny zinc]

he whaled dungeon as well

[main hearth]

Someone needs to carry me also

[thorny zinc]

same when i get 40 tickets

[main hearth]

I only get 20k flurbos every happy hour

[frail spade]

Oh I thought you should use wizard to get wisdom for a warrior?

[frail spade]

I only get 20k too

[thorny zinc]

depends on what you need

[main hearth]

No one helps out when I do dungeon. They all just sit afk

[frail spade]

wait no, I only get 2k flurbos

[thorny zinc]

i personally go for damage on them

[main hearth]

Erm

[mossy anvil]

[frail spade]

last run we did I got 2k of this

[frail spade]

I don't really know what I need

[mossy anvil]

thats how ww stones should look aswell

[thorny zinc]

i would go for damage then

[frail spade]

Okay damage it is

So every character upgrades his own

[main hearth]

[frail spade]

Is that bad or not?

[thorny zinc]

it is indeed bad

[frail spade]

oh :(

[thorny zinc]

you had hh?

[main hearth]

I think I get like 20k and that feels low

[frail spade]

yes 20x 20x 20x

[main hearth]

Try watching a guide on how to do it solo, might be better than the teams ur playing with

[full beacon]

how to get the last bit? gambit or something?

[thorny zinc]

yeah its low af then

[mossy anvil]

yeah

[frail spade]

We finished it with our w5 chat team

[main hearth]

Oh…

[mossy anvil]

20% from gambit and 8% from guild

[full beacon]

oh if you don't have full 8 guild you won't have 100%?

[thorny zinc]

thats even worse

[thorny zinc]

were good players or smth?

[mossy anvil]

no idea, prob not i think

[full beacon]

[frail spade]

Then I don't know why it was so low T-T

[thorny zinc]

at least you got the rings

[frail spade]

Yep, they're only 80 tho

2k is enough for all 20 of them

[main hearth]

[frail spade]

I just don't have enough iron to make them all into serated

[thorny zinc]

wait when you see the emperor opals

[frail spade]

what are those T=T

[thorny zinc]

last rings and the best ones

[frail spade]

10k flurbos

[meager matrix]

I mean, you can upgrade them to make a better ring 😛

[frail spade]

I don't get enough for that

[thorny zinc]

the recipe tho

[meager matrix]

Very cheap, tbh

[thorny zinc]

yeah the hardest part is to get it

[main hearth]

Fr

[strange flare]

i forgot I should make those for my bubo

[main hearth]

Abit too cheap

[frail spade]

So cheap

😌

[meager matrix]

3️⃣

[Critter Locations & Unlocks](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[Salt Merit Explanation](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[Efficient Refinery Rankups](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[Sampling Explained](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
Sampling Checklist - (Spreadsheet)
Sampling Checklist - Endgame - (Spreadsheet)
[Optimal Construction Setup](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)

[How To: Cooking Basics](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[How To: Breeding Basics](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[Foraging Setups](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[Equinox Dream Arena 115 Setup](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[How To: Lab Basics](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[Lab Character Setup Goals](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)
[Onyx Statue Quest + Tips](#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮 message)

[frail spade]

🤨

[strange flare]

finally we are getting an updated pin

[swift parcel]

i still need the stamps from the W2 bugs drop table, what stat affects their drop rate? normal drop rate, or efficiency?

[meager matrix]

I'm improving the never ending scroll of the pins. Something like this

[frail spade]

Oh pretty, good luck!

[thorny zinc]

damn that looks so good

[strange flare]

not to mention there's like a 50 pin limit or something

maybe it was 30

[meager matrix]

It's 50, but not really a concern

I'm more bothered by how buried stuff is

[main hearth]

[meager matrix]

Also lots of outdated stuff to clean up

[strange flare]

you've got your work cut out for you

[thorny zinc]

maybe you can change this image too as he refinery rank of orange is wrong? so it wont be confusing

not orange blue mb

[meager matrix]

I don't understand your complaint about the image

[strange flare]

it's not even wrong

[meager matrix]

The info is correct...

The only issue I have is the legibility of the right side info

[pulsar girder]

for new characters in w1 there's that little UI indicator in the top left of how many more kills you need for the portal, and then it goes away after a while. can i get it back

[thorny zinc]

shouldnt this be less than power per cycle?

[strange flare]

just look at the portal

[main hearth]

Do a vman speed run

[pulsar girder]

is that a no, then

[strange flare]

no, it's clearly representing when not to click rank up

[meager matrix]

It's simply showing you what to compare lol

[strange flare]

It's THAT easy.

[main hearth]

Yea. Only pops back up when u do a vman speed run

[thorny zinc]

makes sense sorry then

[pulsar girder]

darn. thanks for the info!

[strange flare]

that text needs a 2px shadow though 🤮

[main hearth]

Give it an overhaul that colour is horrendous

[strange flare]

I could easily do that but do not feel like it

[main hearth]

I mean anyone could. Takes 2 seconds

[meager matrix]

There, got my first entry into the pin

[main hearth]

💀

[meager matrix]

Removes the largest of the pins lol

[strange flare]

boom, list is complete

[thorny zinc]

all the guides needed are there gg

[meager matrix]

That one link alone makes the whole pin worth it

[thorny zinc]

real

[pulsar girder]

as someone with pretty fresh eyes on this i THINK that #3 is ranked up one too many times, but the text makes it sounds like everything's fine and then the pic is confusing

[meager matrix]

I might remake some images for some of these older pins

For example

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[plain harness]

I love idleon

[meager matrix]

If anyone wants credit for it and feels artsy, you can remake it and add in the missing critters. Just let me know

[plain harness]

can I get a firm handshake if I do

[full beacon]

I agree with gary and shadow tbh. the point of a guide isn't to gatekeep IQ/reading comprehension. doesn't matter how easy you think it is after having been familiar with a mechanic for years/months, the point is the hit the lowest common denominator

[meager matrix]

A firm handshake? I would link the pin to your post for potentially perpetual bragging rights

[strange flare]

y'all are looking way too hard into it

[full beacon]

so if there is a single person who looks way too hard at it, doesn't that mean it can be revised?

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[plain harness]

I'd prefer a good firm handshake

[meager matrix]

Fine, I'll give a good 🤝

[plain harness]

The one where you really shake it and your body just follows

[meager matrix]

But you have to make it look good

[strange flare]

let me see if my refinery is even leveled properly

[plain harness]

aite gimme a hot minute

By hot minute, I needa sleep

[strange flare]

i get it, hotminute

[thorny zinc]

i dont think so as you neglect

[meager matrix]

Wait, so you're going to use my time to do it?

[plain harness]

it's 230am where I stay

[meager matrix]

Oops, wrong reply

[strange flare]

i ain't got time can I borrow a hotminute?

[meager matrix]

Everyone is using my minutes

[meager matrix]

Oh, I plan to have this done well before tomorrow lol

[plain harness]

What time is it for you now

[meager matrix]

I'll just remake it myself then, no worries

1:30pm

[plain harness]

lemme lock in then

[thorny zinc]

mine is okay i think but the ranks are horrible

[meager matrix]

You don't have to, it's okay lol

[strange flare]

one moment I got an ad in the way

[plain harness]

Nah I want that handshake

[signal sequoia]

what do gene spirals from splicing do?

[plain harness]

Increase new pet odds

[mossy anvil]

boost your odds of unlocking new pet in breeding

[signal sequoia]

is there a way to see how many you have

[meager matrix]

Stole your image, may remake that other one

[full beacon]

ez 😂

[meager matrix]

Click on any pet from that world in the breeding's first tab

[signal sequoia]

alr ty

[thorny zinc]

everyone with laugh about my ranks then (so nothing new)

[meager matrix]

See, this is a downgrade

[strange flare]

nope my salt 3 is too high

[main hearth]

Does that look abit nicer

[thorny zinc]

see? neglecting

[mossy anvil]

imo one should be properly and one incorrect, so people cansee example of both

[strange flare]

you did not cook

[main hearth]

[uneven obsidian]

text on the side is worse than original

[thorny zinc]

thats way worse

[main hearth]

I hated the colour it was bugging me

[meager matrix]

He also forgot text from the original

[full beacon]

eh why, location worse than mob identifier?

[main hearth]

Oh yea I wasn’t gonna use it, so I didn’t add it Lol

[thorny zinc]

he is using dementia armor probably

[meager matrix]

Large image, full of extra info, just a pic of the wiki, requires zooming in, etc

[uneven obsidian]

you really think ppl read name of area over what mob is where lol

[thorny zinc]

i knew it

[main hearth]

😭

[full beacon]

kinda 🤣

[uneven obsidian]

this is idleon, we do not read

[main hearth]

😔

Maybe it’s time to get rid of it

[thorny zinc]

get that troll gear

[full beacon]

nice hat tho

[main hearth]

I have enough. Can’t be bothered 😭

[thorny zinc]

lucky

[main hearth]

Thanks,‘twas a fashion choice

[thorny zinc]

still need 2 sets

[main hearth]

Ooo almost there

I think my chars are just sitting in whatever

[pulsar girder]

yeah i'm in the same boat, mid w4 and most of my gear is dogshit bc its been so much easier to progress worlds than get resources so far

[main hearth]

Atleast u got a valid reason

[soft girder]

im w6 and my gear is dogshit too

but hey gear isnt everything

[pulsar girder]

but i'm finally getting accuracy-checked and using food when i'm afk so i gotta have that catch up!!! and i'm glad i'm in w4 for all the cooking/lab exp i can get while doing that

[soft girder]

my cooking is still lvl 1

[thorny zinc]

[soft girder]

no one cares bout that cooking exp lol

[main hearth]

Who even does cooking 😭

[thorny zinc]

you do need cooking lvl what

[full beacon]

oh what that's actually kinda easy to make lol

[soft girder]

prolly some day

[mossy anvil]

yep, all of them are easy except food and mats

[thorny zinc]

yeah i skipped marbi too

[full beacon]

I gotta buff my mats bag for everyone

[pulsar girder]

i'm under the impression cooking is a huge deal but that at first its more about the cooking speed stuff from spice-spending and meal-spending than the actual cooking level at the part i'm at, and i've just got literally everyone in the lab unless they're progressing something

[soft girder]

which char has the largest carry capacity?

maestro?

rn dumped all my bags on him for stamps

[compact pagoda]

why so lasy

[thorny zinc]

done

[compact pagoda]

when other bags

[thorny zinc]

one sec i dont even know the recipes xddd

[main hearth]

The boosts u get from recipes are really good. But yea its all about the cooking speed haha

[compact pagoda]

[thorny zinc]

gg

[main hearth]

Nice

[thorny zinc]

scary jumpscare portal

[compact pagoda]

when reaching with dk

[compact pagoda]

not scary

[main hearth]

Came back to it later fr

[compact pagoda]

push now

[thorny zinc]

20h and its done

[main hearth]

[compact pagoda]

sam when

[main hearth]

[thorny zinc]

maybe even less if i active

[compact pagoda]

just get more dmg and bonk

[main hearth]

Fr

[compact pagoda]

show dmg

[main hearth]

Get that multi kill up

[thorny zinc]

[main hearth]

[soft girder]

i wish

[main hearth]

Oh nah 104m accuracy. Have fun doing golems 😭

[thorny zinc]

im only at c10 so..

[compact pagoda]

i can't even see it

[main hearth]

[compact pagoda]

i expected more

[mossy anvil]

xd

[plain harness]

@meager matrix am i cookin

[main hearth]

[plain harness]

[thorny zinc]

💀

[compact pagoda]

fella is not ready

he scared

[thorny zinc]

i can prob get a lot of accuracy from here if i start clicking it

[meager matrix]

You might be

[mossy anvil]

surely

[main hearth]

[compact pagoda]

1k when

[thorny zinc]

i dont even care about golems now anyway

im too far from that

[main hearth]

Yea it’s far off

How about ur villager exp

[thorny zinc]

[mossy anvil]

tomorrow i should be done with w6 statues i think

and only dragon left

[thorny zinc]

not even 1m yet..

[main hearth]

Like 1,000m? Or just a mil

[thorny zinc]

[main hearth]

Broooo dragon is killing my soul. I’m at 10k/20k

[main hearth]

Oh.

[full beacon]

what chamber golem in

[thorny zinc]

no samurai, no arcade buff no slugs

[thorny zinc]

last one 16

[main hearth]

Final one

[full beacon]

ah rip, ages away

[main hearth]

😔

[thorny zinc]

15 not 16 mb

[mossy anvil]

Dragon is long way to go coz i have to push other villagers now

[full beacon]

that's crazy the optimal onyx meta is to just wait for so long

[main hearth]

Fair enough

[mossy anvil]

Just unlocked gambit recently so others needs to catch up

[main hearth]

Only another few days till I get another 10k

[full beacon]

I feel like I got months still

[main hearth]

It’s so goated tho. The buff it gives is so good

I still need to grind more dragon statues after to level it up, cuz I’ve only leveled it up a few times

[full beacon]

how much are you actually missing out on if you just start dumping statues after everything except golem

[main hearth]

[full beacon]

cuz like.... if you just waiting forever, you're missing out on gains for other stuff you know what I mean

[main hearth]

Yea that’s fair enough

[full beacon]

I have 0 sailing 0 villager, etc

[main hearth]

Oh hell nah 😭

Ig u do the other ones, once u don’t need to afk anything else

I’m gonna afk monuments later once I get more of those buffs that give u more monument afk time

Ain’t worth it otherwise I think

[full beacon]

yea I'll do hybrid or something, and dump like 80% of my statues after w6 farm

maybe 20% of kapows

[main hearth]

Fair

[mossy anvil]

yeah, im at like 3x and its still not satisfying

[main hearth]

I need to do those quests for kachow statues still

[mossy anvil]

and u can actually work with 1k h deep into everything

[main hearth]

Yea

[thorny zinc]

@compact pagoda done with those too

[main hearth]

💀

[thorny zinc]

i didnt know they are SO free

[mossy anvil]

[thorny zinc]

i mean i didnt had resources so its okay

[scenic pewter]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[scenic pewter]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[main hearth]

That’s a lot of merits

[thorny zinc]

#bot-commands please

[meager matrix]

Btw, part of the fun of remaking the pins and making it pretty is creating emotes to go next to each entry. Currently looking at making one for the refinery

[scenic pewter]

ah sry

[thorny zinc]

lol

[main hearth]

And that’s a lot of pngs

[thorny zinc]

another aseprite enjoyer here

[meager matrix]

I mean, only 14 frames, not that crazy

[main hearth]

[signal venture]

how charge of skulls work? i have to wait until i have 25%??

[thorny zinc]

yes

or you can use candy but not worth

[signal venture]

how much time?

[thorny zinc]

depends on what skull you have

[mossy anvil]

1h gives 10 charges, not worth

[thorny zinc]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[thorny zinc]

you can check how much time on toolbox

better skulls = faster charge rate

[meager matrix]

This is how it comes out after shifting from a sprite sheet to a gif

[thorny zinc]

lol

[mossy anvil]

looks awesome

[signal venture]

lol 32% /day

[meager matrix]

Now I just want to figure out how I want to trim that for an emote

[thorny zinc]

what skull do you use?

[signal venture]

wax skull

im new xd

[thorny zinc]

then its normal

try to get the next one i think its called ceramic?

[main hearth]

Cute

Do it for those big ah abominations

[thorny zinc]

oh god

[meager matrix]

Might just turn this into an emote for it

Test

[thorny zinc]

looks good

[meager matrix]

Eh

[mossy anvil]

smol

[meager matrix]

Not sure how to feel about it

[signal venture]

and is there any repeteable quest that gives time candies?

[uneven obsidian]

look like a beer mug at that size XD

[main hearth]

It’s so small

[meager matrix]

I'll just use an image of redox salt

[thorny zinc]

you will be able to get more later anyway

[thorny zinc]

use nullo

as its the easiest one ( i will go insane)

[plain harness]

should i continue or nah @meager matrix

[uneven obsidian]

make a gif of all the salts cycling ?

[strange flare]

hotair i'm cooking on the refinery pin image atm

[meager matrix]

Yeah, this is looking good imo

[mortal elk]

I got this so far

[main hearth]

There are those crystal mobs in the fishing area that respawn and give u candies every few days or smth

[mortal elk]

is this something

[meager matrix]

Oh, but this was way faster XD

[plain harness]

🥀

[main hearth]

The turtle looks so cute

[meager matrix]

Wait, Senpapi

[main hearth]

Turtle pet ingame when

[mortal elk]

I like the idea of using the huntsman's map backround ngl

[meager matrix]

Are you doing the PenPals minigame to get the images?

Hence the background colors?

[plain harness]

no? its contrasting colours

[meager matrix]

Oh, okay

I was worried for a moment, but slightly impressed 🤣

[mortal elk]

that would be painful

[plain harness]

so the critter pops out more

[meager matrix]

Very

[uneven obsidian]

gotta admit the huntsman map with the deer is a nice touch lol

[meager matrix]

So for my feedback: West's is more readable, Senpapi's is harder to read the text at a glance. Senpapi's is more artsy and pretty to look at, West's is boring

[mortal elk]

100% agree

[meager matrix]

Yeah, I like the background image, and the fact it doesn't ruin the readability

[mortal elk]

I just wanted to make something similar to wiki table without the unnecessary info

[scarlet hound]

what better shamen or wizard?

[meager matrix]

If you can improve the text, Senpapi, I think yours is the best approach. Yours also allows more info, like "Complete quest on Choccie map" or "unlock in Jade Emporium", while West's doesn't have much room for that

I'll use West's as a placeholder though

[mortal elk]

yeah maybe sheets wasn't the best format for this lol

[meager matrix]

I was going to do the same, West

The original pin I'm replacing. I was going to more or less do this same image, but put different critter images sprawled around the edge to make it feel cuter XD

[mortal elk]

@plain harness your looks much better but you should probably finish it tomorrow instead of remaking a guide at 3am

[meager matrix]

Yeah, we have the placeholder now at least

[main hearth]

Probably wizard early on? No one really does bubbles that early

[plain harness]

nah i got nothing on tmrw

[meager matrix]

And I can swap it out

[mortal elk]

understandable, enjoy yourself

[meager matrix]

Okay, next question for you guys

I made the emote for it

[strange flare]

@meager matrix Here you go, since I like you

ah shit I have a typo

[meager matrix]

However... would you guys prefer something like this?

[strange flare]

dont use that yet

[meager matrix]

This is lovely!

[main hearth]

Looks cuter then the refinery one

[meager matrix]

Typo 😛

[uneven obsidian]

salt cycling would be nice, at least until lava decide to add more salts XD

[thorny zinc]

a lot better

[meager matrix]

I've been waiting 4 years for that

[uneven obsidian]

the poor newbies would hate it cuz of nullo

[strange flare]

yeah fixing it atm lolol

[main hearth]

Something to get us out of salt lock

[meager matrix]

Easy way to make noobs cry

[mortal elk]

maybe but how you would make the transition effect for them? coin has the side frame where it becomes easy to make it into the next one but what about the static only salts

[meager matrix]

I would make it more like

[mortal elk]

fair

don't think I've ever noticed the egg one before (no nitro moment)

[plain harness]

hows this for readability?

I wanna add a small text box to the right for specific critters/semantics

[mortal elk]

text background is a bit too dark for black text

[uneven obsidian]

its fine when you get the image at 100% size, just a bit harder to read when its shrunk

[meager matrix]

I'm not adding emotes to the server, but a private one. I have emote access on the Idle Skilling server, but not here

[mortal elk]

ah

[meager matrix]

The issue was more text size than anything

[strange flare]

@meager matrix here you go, boss.

[meager matrix]

I love it!

[strange flare]

[uneven obsidian]

you should try to tell lava about it when you get a chance to talk to him so he remember it

[meager matrix]

I mean, he removed the placeholder tabs, and progression has been made so much easier that salt problems have only gotten worse with time. I don't foresee him adding more tabs anytime soon

[strange flare]

Had to mess with the art a bit to make it look nice, I think it was worth and well done for like 45 minutes

[meager matrix]

Yeah, you did incredible

I love how you designed the right side panel

[uneven obsidian]

he removed the placeholder tabs, shows how much attention i pay to that part of the ui XD

[strange flare]

All I did was take the in game output UI and make it slightly bigger and one big square essentially

[meager matrix]

Hey, it works! lol

[strange flare]

I wasn't gonna do it until I had that idea. Then I had to entertain it

[meager matrix]

Well I'm glad you did

You're also in the new pin thanks to it

So I didn't mess with the animation speed and LOL

[thorny zinc]

lol

[strange flare]

[meager matrix]

I think that may be a bit much

[strange flare]

might want to make it like 10 FPS

[meager matrix]

And with it next to text like it'll appear

Yeah, I'm gonna tweak it

[strange flare]

10 might be too fast even

15-20 might be your best bet

[meager matrix]

Still might be too much

[strange flare]

do 20 if you did 10 there

[meager matrix]

That was 200 milliseconds between each frame

[strange flare]

that's 5 fps

do maybe 400 or 600

[meager matrix]

And here's 500ms

[strange flare]

a lot better

[meager matrix]

And this is it with the whitespace removed

Think I got our winner

[strange flare]

Looks great

[meager matrix]

Updated the pin, although clearly still working on it

[thorny zinc]

already looking a lot better

who is gonna do animated critter emoji tho

[meager matrix]

I mean, I could, just meh

I'll utilize the static image we have on the server currently

[uneven obsidian]

would look too random imo if done using critters

[strange flare]

[mortal elk]

it's either gonna be too long, swap too fast or skip critters to compromise the previous 2

[meager matrix]

I mean, long emotes isn't really an issue

What's important is that it's clear what the link is for

Which is the entire reason I use the emote system

[uneven obsidian]

could also use the traps for critters

[meager matrix]

Eh

[strange flare]

i like froge

[mortal elk]

trap for an overall trapping guide maybe, for critter focused frogge better

[strange flare]

hoy boy we got a 2 stoner

+120k max damage

[somber depot]

Someone get for me

[strange prism]

[somber depot]

WOWOWOWOWOWO

HOTAIR SPAWNED

HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII HOTAIR

[strange flare]

i guess everyone has their fangirls

[somber depot]

Listen

[thorny zinc]

me with lava belike

[strange flare]

you mean you with griffy

[somber depot]

I've been muted before and it wasn't pleasant so why not just keep on hotairs good side?

[thorny zinc]

fair point

[somber depot]

Besides

Hotair is pretty kewl :3

[meager matrix]

Eww

[somber depot]

Cmere bbg

[strange flare]

don't worry I flame him daily for liking griffy

[meager matrix]

Deserved

[mortal elk]

feel like doing a justice run, wish me luck chat

[thorny zinc]

but he is really nice i actually talked with him a bit on stream

[mossy anvil]

anyone hh?

@native trail

[honest cradle]

u gonna carry me?

[thorny zinc]

can i come ?

[native trail]

yes

[mossy anvil]

i mean i prob can carry but 4th frog depends on rng

[native trail]

oh sure

[thorny zinc]

i can help too

[native trail]

i’ll try aswell

[honest cradle]

just way where and im there

[mossy anvil]

ok pickle 4

@full beacon i saw u posting, what u got there

[strange prism]

4 65+ hours 0/5

[full beacon]

6 pp

[meager matrix]

How does this one look

Eh, hard to make it out

I'll pick something else

[native trail]

perfect

[full beacon]

come join us

[mortal elk]

a test tube maybe?, less detail that gets loss with size

[meager matrix]

Yeah, almost went with 🧪

Might just find the skill icon

[mortal elk]

exactly

[meager matrix]

Yeah

[candid summit]

went to bed, im at 144 now

[meager matrix]

Trying to find it in the assets atm

[strange prism]

anything happening in there

[thorny zinc]

i started to actually talk to him a bit lol

[thorny zinc]

new dr guide soon

[mortal elk]

full res

[candid summit]

you have access to the assets?? iirc i tried looking but it was a lot of compressed unity files as opposed to pngs like undertale or oneshot had

[meager matrix]

Still need to find how it's named int he files so I can see all of the skills

[meager matrix]

Mhm, I have the entire folder

[mortal elk]

I have no clue about whatever you're looking at I just use wiki

[meager matrix]

[night oracle]

How do I unlock shiny pets?

[meager matrix]

Essentially I'm using the source the wiki pulls from

[meager matrix]

Breeding Upgrade tab

[night oracle]

Oh

[strange flare]

paint bucket iirc

[zenith hare]

level 40 breeding

[meager matrix]

For example, this is an image of the merit bonus for that image Link made and could have used if they chose to in the info panel

[strange flare]

wind walker might have the most custom talent icons so far

i thought about it lol but it's a bit large

[meager matrix]

Yeah

[strange prism]

[strange flare]

you might need more damage bud

[meager matrix]

Yeah, maybe come back after building up

[merry halo]

LAVA STRONGER

[honest cradle]

❤️ fellas

[strange prism]

[strange flare]

i need 1.2k more acc

[strange prism]

unfortunately theres no good rings in w5

I didnt fight w4 aboms till I had every upgrade at 100m (dust, abom n damage upgrades)

not really sure how to get more damage for w5

[thorny zinc]

time to gamble again

[strange flare]

prob a 4/5 bow

dual tempest rings

[strange prism]

• also no idea how people are at w6 samurais

[strange flare]

good crit damage upgrade

[thorny zinc]

good rng

[strange prism]

[strange flare]

is that a 3 stone?

[strange prism]

yup

[strange flare]

nice

[strange prism]

best atm - unfortunately this aboms weak to grass tho

[full beacon]

idk if I should start buying opals or gamba on keychains

[strange flare]

that a 4 stone?

[strange prism]

where can you get opals and keychains for the same thing?

[full beacon]

flurbo

[strange flare]

nice

[strange prism]

w5 drops up to 70 wp atm

[mossy anvil]

hats from emporium dont show on cards right

[meager matrix]

Quick trick to figuring out how many stones succeeded:
Take the misc and check how many times you can put 50 into it. In this case, you have 227% dust, so you can put 50 into it 4 times.

[native trail]

ggs guys

[strange prism]

and ofc the bow I need isnt in w5

[strange flare]

keychains are not really worth

[full beacon]

[strange prism]

ooooh rings

[mossy anvil]

gg

[strange prism]

ye definitely rings lmao - keychains are overrated

[native trail]

thanks for the dung

[strange flare]

while true I don't know how much the misc varies on later bows, so that's how I was making an educated guess

[mossy anvil]

dont gamba on keychains, only buy them from dung frags

[meager matrix]

This trick is always correct

[mossy anvil]

npnp

[strange flare]

[thorny zinc]

finally

[native trail]

aa for ww do i just keep grinding wode boards until i get a dust bow

[strange prism]

wp scales more then misc

[strange flare]

gratz

[strange prism]

100 when

[meager matrix]

Btw, found the sprite. It was in a different folder, in a larger shared sprite sheet

[thorny zinc]

lets not talk about this tho

[mossy anvil]

xd

[thorny zinc]

[strange flare]

i got mine in like 20 tries so can't relate

[native trail]

u did all that for 60

[strange flare]

and then somehow got a 100 megacrit

[mossy anvil]

u need level 100 of previous one

[thorny zinc]

imagine being lucky

[strange prism]

idk if I farm a better grass bow or push upgrades to 2-300 mil

[native trail]

huh

[strange flare]

I haven't had any luck since then lmao

[mossy anvil]

u need to do it too manny after u max those stats for equinox

[native trail]

Do what

[strange prism]

exactly

[native trail]

🥲

[strange flare]

this is all you need

[mossy anvil]

buy talents

[native trail]

i did tho

[strange prism]

ya.. I have everything at 100m already

[thorny zinc]

366% crit chance

[strange flare]

MORE

[mossy anvil]

why your crit is higher than mine

[thorny zinc]

idk

[strange flare]

busted upgrade ngl

[strange prism]

even though all the upgrades cost the same and they scale the same, they give different damage buffs

[strange flare]

scales low too

[strange prism]

its annoying

[meager matrix]

Testing

[strange flare]

not bad

[candid summit]

it never ends

[mossy anvil]

maybe grimore?

[thorny zinc]

hm dont think so im not that far

[meager matrix]

Now I have all the skill icons too, which is nice

[strange prism]

from 10 upgrades

its okay

[mossy anvil]

im at 243, idk where is that 100% difference

[strange flare]

you also get 20% crit damage

[strange prism]

pretty sure the best way to do it is just level whats cheapest

[mossy anvil]

maybe alch bubble?

[thin wind]

Do multi's in breeding increase the power of pets when you breed them? Do we know what increases how big this number gets? I want to make big acorns and am wondering best way to do it.

[thorny zinc]

hm

[strange flare]

power doesn't matter

[strange prism]

crit did go up .2

[strange prism]

meals - cooking

[strange flare]

which means it's an upgrade that increases 2 multipliers

[thin wind]

more foraging speed. I'm not asking for breeding wise.

[mossy anvil]

my meals should be higher than his

[candid summit]

oh god theres bonuses up to round 200

[strange prism]

lv65?

do you have a better ribbon on them then him

[mossy anvil]

mine are 70+

[strange prism]

ribbons are what make up cooking buffs

[strange flare]

this?

[strange prism]

the levels themselves are minimal

[mossy anvil]

why would i ribbon crit chance xd

[thorny zinc]

i havent

[strange prism]

even a level 1 ribbons worth it

[native trail]

whats the best map for Beholder statues

[thin wind]

Ok so egg rarity helps increase power cap. that helps thank you. So that and WW perk for increase power that's like only two sources?

[strange flare]

BM talent but yeah

[full beacon]

I think those are free af when you grind defence

[strange flare]

uhh let me look

[native trail]

So where

[full beacon]

or maybe it was power

sandy pots or beans

[strange prism]

why did crystal locations get removed from pins

[mossy anvil]

arent those at beans aswell

[native trail]

i have it onxyed i just need more statues lol

[strange prism]

oh i see now

[native trail]

I get 🤏

[full beacon]

yea beans

[strange flare]

I think thats it besides maybe breeding level

[full beacon]

200k power

[strange prism]

fml im slow

[native trail]

oo ok ic ty

[strange prism]

green stack? : )

[full beacon]

lmao then I can never use it xD

[mossy anvil]

ok i know where i was missing crit chance lol

[thin wind]

yeah I was thinking similar thing. Thanks for all the info, I just wanted bigger pets and saw some people have 100k plus pets.

[mossy anvil]

much better now lmao

[native trail]

Magma balls drop recipe for golden cakes right

[thorny zinc]

w4 is finally done

[strange prism]

[strange flare]

[mossy anvil]

i dont have dragon yet

[native trail]

thanks for spoiler alert

[strange prism]

[native trail]

NOO ALERT IT

[strange prism]

ah shoot

[native trail]

Ahhh my eyes can’t handle such things

To beans i guess

[strange prism]

always ribbon your crit

[mossy anvil]

i will pass for now

[strange prism]

• dont actually ribbon it

[mossy anvil]

see, dragon difference

[strange prism]

maybe, my dragons not that high

[mossy anvil]

and vman

[strange prism]

my vmans talent is 299 tho

[mossy anvil]

right i need to do speedrun

[strange prism]

my vmans constantly on skills

[mossy anvil]

my last speedrun was month ago in void gear

[full beacon]

lol

[native trail]

AHHH WHYY

[strange prism]

I need to use DB bones at some point

[native trail]

I want cakessssss

[mossy anvil]

why? coz u will need it for +1 slab

[native trail]

🥲

yea right beans wish me luck

[meager matrix]

Want a fun fact?

This used to be the Starfire egg sprite:

Now it looks like this:

More sparkle

[candid summit]

okay i need to make an executive decision
after round 150 im throwing. im bored, i wanna play, i wanna check on my other characters

[strange flare]

more sparkle makes it look less gold, good graphic design choice lava

[honest cradle]

You dont like gold?

[strange flare]

there's already a gold egg

[river spruce]

Hello friends! How do i increase the yield of my trapping? I need moar frogessss

[candid summit]

actually im massively bored i might just throw rn

[meager matrix]

Old eggs emote versus the new one:

Ohh, I used the wrong old emote from my files for speed

Gimme a second

[mossy anvil]

yeah new one def better

[meager matrix]

[dusty palm]

When should you start working on shiny pets?

[meager matrix]

There we go

Godshard egg is more sparkly too

[mossy anvil]

godspark egg

[strange flare]

we love sparkle

[river spruce]

How do i increase the yield of my trapping? I need moar frogessss

[strange prism]

Vials - Efficiency - Trap type

[mossy anvil]

skill efficiency, equip proper cards, place them as bm with talent booked

[meager matrix]

Gonna post this gif real quick

[strange flare]

agility, trapping power, vials, stamps, skill eff

[meager matrix]

(almost everytime I do, someone realizes you can change what trap you place)

[night oracle]

Wait you can change the trap you place?

[strange flare]

[night oracle]

xD

[meager matrix]

I always have to worry if someone is joking when they say that afterwards too

[honest cradle]

I learned this like 4 days ago

feelsgoodman

[night oracle]

Ouch

I knew about it but didn't use until nature

[mossy anvil]

not even for shiny critters?

[meager matrix]

Silktouch trap super important pre-royal

[mossy anvil]

i might have neglected my vman with bags a bit too much

[thorny zinc]

bro whats that abomination😭

[mossy anvil]

uoroboros

[meager matrix]

I think it's called Griffy

OH! You meant the WW abomination

[thorny zinc]

good one

[strange flare]

ouroboros lil bro

[mossy anvil]

if u are correcting me i had no idea how to spell it tbh

[strange flare]

oh i was just replying but that's how you spell it lmao

[thorny zinc]

why is the game becoming freakier with every update? abos and those bones?

[mossy anvil]

are u scared lil bro

[thorny zinc]

im scared of what lava will add next

[mossy anvil]

new packs

[thorny zinc]

sounds good for us

[mossy anvil]

[meager matrix]

Pin updated some more

Slowly getting through this

[thorny zinc]

looks amazing so far

[plain harness]

can someone tell me where the turtle and blob platforms are

[meager matrix]

Choccies for Blob

[plain harness]

yea like the platform

[meager matrix]

And Bamboo Spirits for Turtles

Oh

[thorny zinc]

left top platform

[meager matrix]

Top left for blobs

I think bottom left for turtles

[thorny zinc]

tbh i never seen turtles zone as i used drone

[mossy anvil]

yeah turtles bottom

[meager matrix]

Yeah, I didn't know where it was for a while lol

[plain harness]

now i just dk what to put for notes or whatever on the right side

[meager matrix]

Well, correct the map first

[astral sequoia]

Does someone have a link to the worship TD guides?

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[plain harness]

just like a small deadspace

[thorny zinc]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[meager matrix]

Those are not from Efaunt 😛

[plain harness]

😭

[thorny zinc]

or cinderbane has amazing guides on youtube too btw

[meager matrix]

I would try to say that the turtles are unlocked by the Jade Emporium

[plain harness]

yea thats for the right side

same for blobfish

[meager matrix]

Gotcha

Yeah, for the right side say that you progress through each of the critters though the Trapping Master's questline, then the blob dude's quest for the blobs, and jade emporium for the turtle

Hmm, as much as I love the deer, I wonder how it'd look if you had the Trapping Master there instead

Although I'm guessing you're making this all in Paint?

[plain harness]

uh something like that

[meager matrix]

Gotcha

[plain harness]

it is possible