#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

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warm grove
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I got 1,937 kills with WW earlier

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mostly auto, but if you see mobs grouping up then move there and clear them out

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I usually stay near the center of the arena when I do it

vernal geyser
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Is active play really faster for pushing? I feel like the afk kills per hour with multikill and all that is pretty good

warm grove
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multikill also applies to active

vernal geyser
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Oo

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I see, that’s pretty good then

warm grove
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but yeah, active play is a fair bit faster due to a few factors, especially with elite classes

full beacon
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apples to apples I think they're similar, the main thing is that active gets crystal + choco which are worth way more than the trash mobs

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and then yea respawn mechanics from elite classes

vernal geyser
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I see

warm grove
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also this vault upgrade

vernal geyser
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I feel like if push with barbarian it would be pretty good tho

full beacon
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bb no respawn until master class

vernal geyser
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That way I’m getting the apocalypse stacks at the same time

lunar shoal
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big aoe goes hard

vernal geyser
lunar shoal
vagrant plover
warm grove
vernal geyser
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In that case I would want to push with a different elite class, but I also still want my barbarian out there getting stacks and filling out the death note. Should I just let that go and put my barbarian in the lab anyway?

vagrant plover
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yall wtrf is that

lunar shoal
bold sundial
lunar shoal
warm grove
lunar shoal
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ohhhhh

thin wind
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are you proud of my roo Rei?

lunar shoal
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i thought it was like 400 skulls per run

vernal geyser
lunar shoal
warm grove
# bold sundial

until you get specific directional player exp boosts it doesn't matter much if your other guys are on the board

vernal geyser
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My plan was to just have my barbarian go through W1, W2, and then W3 to fill out the death note and to stack damage along the way

vagrant plover
warm grove
lunar shoal
twin spire
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i wont be able to get the anniversary pet once the event ends?

warm grove
lunar shoal
twin spire
vernal geyser
white lintel
warm grove
twin spire
vagrant plover
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what do these 4X do

vernal geyser
twin spire
warm grove
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makes the one to the right 4x?

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a gstack is a stack of 10m items or more, so get a few of those in your chest before going for equinox imo

vernal geyser
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Oh okay, I didn’t realize doing that gives you some sort of bonus

warm grove
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eventually it does, you also need to do that to get started with equinox

vernal geyser
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Wow this is all pretty confusing lmao

warm grove
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like this is the first thing you gotta do before you can really start on equinox

indigo stratus
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Does not even loot timmy

warm grove
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dw too much about it

indigo stratus
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Does auto loot everything

plain harness
warm grove
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equinox upgrade that auto invests

molten bluff
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you broke math

warm grove
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it happens

plain harness
bold sundial
pale thicket
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is it safe to recycle the extra green mushrooms from the candles?

warm grove
plain harness
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ogei

warm grove
vernal geyser
# warm grove dw too much about it

Yeah I’ll try not to. It’s just so much of the advice from this discord server contradicts each other. Like putting people into lab immediately upon unlocking W4, but also demanding that our one char outside push W4 even tho I don’t have the gear for that yet, but also told to just put everyone in lab and use 3D printer to get those mats…. But then also my 3d printer sucks because no gems to get say the crystal printer and so on. Meanwhile was told to fill out the death note as well lol but can’t do that if I have to put barbarian in the lab 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

warm grove
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lol yeah usually ask one person who is experienced at a time

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but it's also hard to retroactively give advice with differences in accounts, new progression being added that we didn't have and all that

vernal geyser
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Yeah very true, I think it’s a lot harder to follow everyone’s advice or “meta” with new accounts 4 years later

near latch
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What does this mean?

warm grove
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but you should be able to push W4 with one guy, if acc or survivability is a problem you likely just don't know of a possible easy source

vernal geyser
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There’s just so much more content now

warm grove
vernal geyser
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There’s just not enough characters to do every single thing in a short time, especially f2p

warm grove
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oh yeah dw about the resources much, same thing happened to me when I first started

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I didn't make anything past anvil tab 3 until W6

near latch
vernal geyser
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That’s good to know. I finally unlocked tab 3 lol

warm grove
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phase costs?

vernal geyser
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Dementia ores are terrible

bold sundial
# warm grove but you should be able to push W4 with one guy, if acc or survivability is a pro...

I started doing Divinity on all my guys, pushing so I can also level Labs. Because everyone's advice is "push divinity".
Before that I was catching up everyone's levels, because everyone's advice is "do not neglect anyone"
Leveling everyone would have enabled me to get better prints. But can't do it all at once.
Also, was getting 1 mil kills in w1-w3 for Voidwalker, but now that's on hold too.
Divinity is taking weeks.

warm grove
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yeah just keep using amarok armor

warm grove
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leveling all guys evenly is a waste of time

vernal geyser
near latch
vernal geyser
warm grove
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you wait until W6 to level because the exp is insane, and your damage is multiplied a lot from many sources

near latch
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the number of times i follow someones advice, only to get blasted for doing something wrong after according to someone else

warm grove
warm grove
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yeah happens a lot, that's why I don't blast people for not knowing better

vernal geyser
warm grove
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answering questions is the midgamer's way of becoming a better player

near latch
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The w6 chatroom was the worst one for that

vernal geyser
near latch
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man did i get blasted when i asked questions over there

warm grove
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oh lord do not go into the higher chat rooms

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just stay here, everybody who hangs around here is pretty cool and mostly midgamers

vagrant plover
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y not

vernal geyser
honest cradle
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Should I save a cheap exalt for when I unlock multitool stamp?

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I used my first on refinery

warm grove
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might be the play, up to you

near latch
warm grove
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3 aren't that hard to get, and you can get a 4th with some effort

honest cradle
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I cant really think of a stamp that would really blow me away with faster progress other than that atm

near latch
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theres one ive seen floating around

honest cradle
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maybe liqud regen?

warm grove
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I suggest crystalling, multitool, and liquid regen when you can CC on bubo with good effect from lvl 200 tent

near latch
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of the top of my head, i think liquid regen, crystal mobs, carry cap and multitool were the top ones

dry swallow
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so

frozen timber
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Am i the only one who got problems getting the Vman? Like my begginer got the needed class and levels but everytime he go to the starting area of world 4 my game crash and get instantly closed got any tips fixing it?

near latch
honest cradle
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I really need to do better with anvil production depossiting

dry swallow
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ive been pushing w5 (told by another player) and im running into issues with upgrading my alch bubbles since I can't get bloodsucker or sum like that to upgrade my accuracy

near latch
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That thing, found it

dry swallow
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yea those

warm grove
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there's better sources of easier accuracy that i'd recommend instead

honest cradle
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get cards

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Easier

dry swallow
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which is? my vault is already WAY to expensive to upgrade

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I have both cards equipped

warm grove
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you have cards, substat stoned gear, some clicker buffs, dungeons?

near latch
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Did you do your roo? The fishing bonuses are kinsa massive if you need that

dry swallow
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roo?

warm grove
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the W2 clicker

dry swallow
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what's that..

near latch
warm grove
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but most important is do you have amarok gear with W5 stones boosting the substat of your class?

dry swallow
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ooh that guy

near latch
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oooh i can mega reset

warm grove
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ohhh, well you got amarok with W4 stones boosting the substat then?

honest cradle
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I forgot about poppy, I still havent gotten the 6th shiny fish

vernal geyser
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Oh yeah @warm grove do you know how much of “primary stat” vs. “accuracy stat” I should put on my gear for W4?

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I definitely need more accuracy but I figure I still should be putting some main stat into my gear too?

dry swallow
warm grove
honest cradle
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I just put all acc stat on my amarok

dry swallow
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I'll take a ss of my inv page rq

bold sundial
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I have companion gems and everything except Doot. Should I just save them for future updates and give up on Doot?

dry swallow
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show you stats n stuff brb

warm grove
dry swallow
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the defense seems better on dementia no?

warm grove
near latch
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no, but dementia armor is a massive time sink, and its not gonna get used later on

vernal geyser
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The guide thing was saying to replace amarok gear with dementia so I sorta just stopped upgrading it

warm grove
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yeah the guide is outdated by now

vernal geyser
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Aw

dry swallow
warm grove
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you can use amarok armor up to W6

vernal geyser
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Wow

dry swallow
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are we deaduzz 💔💔

vernal geyser
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Damn wish I knew that lol. So I don’t even need to make dementia gear???

dry swallow
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atliest I got my worship level up a bit

near latch
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imo amarok can be rocked until youre ready to craft troll armor

warm grove
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actually you can use no armor up to W6 if your accuracy is good enough

indigo stratus
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Extra bag or extra capacity?

vernal geyser
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That would have sped up my progress so much

dry swallow
vernal geyser
full beacon
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y'all do triple log prints or 2nd ES on random mob stuff

warm grove
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yeah, but you know how to upgrade your substat?

near latch
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cuz troll armor is the first armor in the series up to godshard, the best in slot

warm grove
dry swallow
near latch
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anything under wont carry over

dry swallow
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i just used the w4 armor stones

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an that's it

vernal geyser
warm grove
# dry swallow i don't ngl

alright lets say you are trying to get acc on a warrior, main stat is str and the substat which increases accuracy is wisdon, so basically you take your warrior gear and then use the upgrade stones of say the W4 shop on a mage so the armor boosts accuracy by a ton

warm grove
vernal geyser
near latch
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Are you pushing with dk btw? It could fix both your accuracy and defense problems

vernal geyser
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I haven’t really started pushing bc it’s hard to when I don’t have a clear goal. And now I’m being told the gear guide is outdated and to basically throw that whole concept away lol

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But yeah it’ll be with DK when I push

warm grove
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yeah DK helps with defense a lot, but you need even more accuracy to get max usage from it because of the talent

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I suggest ES personally, but DK is about the same overall

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just my preference to use ES more because I love ES

near latch
vernal geyser
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ES sounds cooler yeah. But I may as well do DK since I have one now I guess

near latch
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Those 2 really make the dk a pushing machine

warm grove
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but yeah the only gear you need to get to W6 is amarok with new world stones you buy from the shop

vernal geyser
warm grove
fiery fjord
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if i have king doot pet making all divinities active - the bear makes no lab exp gain. do i have to unlink chars to get lab exp

vernal geyser
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Tho the lowered damage is oof

dry swallow
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curently I'm rocking

warm grove
honest cradle
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I dont think I used a single talent in balance spirit

thin wind
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How much is the extra trimmed construction slot from event worth? I'm at 21 ribbons and if I spent 600 gems I could get enough to get that extra trimmed slot.

warm grove
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it's bugged rn so it doesn't work

vernal geyser
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Oh yeah- so now I have way too many active abilities they don’t all fit on one page. Does auto battle use skills from multiple pages? Or am I supposed to respec and get rid of certain actives?

thin wind
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But if it was patched in working would it be worth?

warm grove
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also you get 4 for free eventually so not that worth in my opinion if you gotta buy all the trash to get to it

full beacon
thin wind
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oh really? What are the sources. I probably won't then since four for free sounds like enough

warm grove
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uh there's atom, construction mastery I believe, and 2 from gambit

warm grove
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let me check real quick

dry swallow
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wait wrong thing

vernal geyser
dry swallow
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I WAS THINKING ABOUT FOOD SLOTS

true hamlet
warm grove
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yeah mb not cons mastery it's jewels

full beacon
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since the AI is dumb

thin wind
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Jewel is from Chip shop or is that a sneaking one

true hamlet
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chip

warm grove
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lab chips

dry swallow
true hamlet
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well, jewel shop

near latch
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the only early ability id say to get rid of asap is the dumb roundhouse kick on your archers

warm grove
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well yeah but that area

dry swallow
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and you said I should be pushing with a elemental sourcer

near latch
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that shit is useless

true hamlet
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jewel spinner I think is what it's called

vernal geyser
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But idk what exactly to do for the talents. There’s the talent guide docs but… everything seems outdated idk

warm grove
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also pretty fun

full beacon
near latch
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is damage a problem for yall?

dry swallow
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no not really

full beacon
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I ended up with this and it's pretty chilling

dry swallow
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i sent my stats and cards

warm grove
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well I mean both raw and actual dmg, as more raw dmg gets multikill

dry swallow
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i have around 8m raw max

vernal geyser
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Thanks! The talent set looks good

dry swallow
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and not enough acc to get multikill

full beacon
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ignore the refinery one. you won't have enough points for refinery on combat preset for a while. I just got it on both for qol

warm grove
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yeah you need accuracy and survivability to always be at 100%

vernal geyser
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Do you let auto battle run? Or do you manually play

full beacon
dry swallow
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they are at 100% because of food+goblet

warm grove
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I always auto because that's too much micro

vernal geyser
warm grove
full beacon
warm grove
dry swallow
warm grove
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ah ok, then wait until then before making new amarok

dry swallow
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maybe portal

vernal geyser
dry swallow
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im like 1-3k over accuracy for this portal

full beacon
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just stick with amarok and refresh the stones every new world shop you unlock

vernal geyser
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Alright will do

warm grove
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in W4 you need 15.8k accuracy, and in W5 39k

vernal geyser
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Maybe I’ll just put all the stones into accuracy idk

full beacon
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if you'pre already in w4 then you have mainstat targetting stones which is super nice

vernal geyser
warm grove
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that's all to get to the boss portals

vernal geyser
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Alright I guess I’ll give it a try with amarok gear: all accuracy (unless I hit 15.8k, then rest into dmg)

warm grove
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sounds good to me

vernal geyser
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But maybe tonight bc my phone is low battery;0

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Thanks for all the help everyone

warm grove
dry swallow
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@warm grove

full beacon
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where's your portable battery pack

dry swallow
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about 1.8k over acc

full beacon
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gotta game everywhere

warm grove
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yeah that's good for W4

dry swallow
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I b seeing skills that need 700k efficiency 💔

vernal geyser
warm grove
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you'll need to remake amarok for W5 though but you'll likely be on a different class unless you can get 75m dmg on your bb

dry swallow
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I'm gonna ACTUALLY need to make my respective warrior/Archer/mage skill armor

livid quail
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Does anyone know? Jocund and Nobi are not the issue...

vernal geyser
warm grove
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yeah basically, not really needed, that goes for all the ore armors

vernal geyser
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I got like 300 dementia bars rn

vernal geyser
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Can I replace amarok gear with the W3 boss gear instead then?

full beacon
dry swallow
warm grove
dry swallow
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oh yea there's the warrior skill

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  • lab
warm grove
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like stacked skulls, these ones

livid quail
full beacon
true hamlet
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mmm

warm grove
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death note only affects multikill which is relatively close, so it could be the compounding effect of lab 2x, jocund 2x, nobi 2x, and a ton of extra kills from the elite kill per kill talents

full beacon
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10x difference is craaaaazy though. esp given the money/hr is super close lol

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I'm stumped

true hamlet
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hence the difference comes from kpk, and hence the talent is likely the culprit

warm grove
dry swallow
true hamlet
dry swallow
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I also have NO clue wtf the ppl in a higher world than 4 are talking about

vernal geyser
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I can officially see why amarok gear is suggested to go all the way to W6. @warm grove probably because it’ll be much easier to keep remaking amarok gear as needed for new world upgrade stones, right? (Pls)

livid quail
vernal geyser
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Yay

true hamlet
warm grove
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this one

livid quail
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So what?

true hamlet
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what the f

dry swallow
full beacon
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you both have all the things rei mentioned? both have joc, both have lab node, etc

dry swallow
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maybe cards?

true hamlet
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cards is unlikely

livid quail
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Mathematically in any case^

dry swallow
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fair

warm grove
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so does the other person have lab, joc, and nobi for 8x and you do as well or what's that deal

true hamlet
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umm, so w3 kill rings?

dry swallow
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I'mma let y'all talk for a min and I'mma go try and make a set of amarok armor

warm grove
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so neither of you guys got either of them?

livid quail
warm grove
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so they don't have them?

livid quail
warm grove
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and you are sure?

true hamlet
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do you perchance have both your accounts' IT? easier to look around

livid quail
true hamlet
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!it

candid scarabBOT
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https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

full beacon
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nah bro she's a closet whale for sure

warm grove
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I mean hell, the only other thing I can think of right now is this bubble

livid quail
vernal geyser
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Oh do I need more like 23.7k accuracy for DK for W4 instead of 15.8??

full beacon
livid quail
warm grove
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my guy, nobody is getting 300k kph in W3 with only 1000% multikill without all of those sources, literally impossible

true hamlet
warm grove
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it's inconceivable

livid quail
vernal geyser
dry swallow
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how do you make a IT account?

livid quail
white lintel
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Go to the website

dry swallow
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i see login and thats it..

warm grove
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maybe it was a snapshot bug? unless it is consistently 300k kph then I can't say

livid quail
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Sorry for being unknowledgeable about this instance specifically

true hamlet
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just log in and it will export data from api if I had to guess

full beacon
white lintel
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IT acc is your idkeon acc

vernal geyser
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ES is starting to seem better for pushing already tbh lol, easier at least

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Like I won’t need as much accuracy, damage will be higher etc

full beacon
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portal goes hard

white lintel
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DK my goat tho

vernal geyser
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Not really sure why everyone pushed DK above all else lol

vernal geyser
full beacon
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they're all kinda fine tbh

full beacon
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I pushed sb, had no issues

vernal geyser
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I think since I’m still early into w4 I’ll just do ES then bc it sounds more fun

dry swallow
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yea just log in

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it just snatches ALL details about the game

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even what obols you got on 💔

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mannn it can see my ass obols

true hamlet
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you mean my empty obol slots?

warm grove
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that's so sad

vernal geyser
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Once I commit to DK or ES in w4, is the idea to basically only play that char from now on and push to w6?

warm grove
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you usually stick with them to push to W6, and then things get crazy

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dang why is this item so trash💔

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same Grumblo_Pray

true hamlet
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how should I progress ww lol

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keep crying until I get a 3/5 to 5/5 bow?

warm grove
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I just got a 2 sucess dust % bow and am rolling with that

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this is good enough for now, late W3

true hamlet
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mm idk how to progress though, like, just keep pushing maps right?

warm grove
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generally yeah, when dmg upgrades slow down go back and farm all of the W1 medallions

true hamlet
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what's your hourly dust looking like?

warm grove
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spiked a lot recently

true hamlet
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eventually I'll go back yeah

true hamlet
warm grove
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also ignore the fact that I got zerg AND rucksack on, no clue what happened there

true hamlet
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no worries

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I do dawg den with beefy and balance prayer on

warm grove
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that's better than me

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I don't do dawg den at all

untold wren
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why are there no jewels?

warm grove
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you gotta buy them first

indigo stratus
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I love you

true hamlet
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because you didn't buy any

neon osprey
true hamlet
warm grove
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use IT, or click on the card in game

true hamlet
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or cards, but that' effort

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I'm assuming that I should hard focus elemental path?

warm grove
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to some degree yeah

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get to at least lvl 9

dry swallow
true hamlet
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luck factor right? I got that

dry swallow
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my profile 🙏

warm grove
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after that, get the next one before farming medallions

true hamlet
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dust % from abom and survival seem good too though

craggy pelican
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What's the easiest way to get alot of power statues quickly? I'm currently trying to unlock onyx statues

warm grove
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some are good to an extent, but they get expensive quick too

full beacon
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starting to see 2 dk statues overlap for like 10s now

true hamlet
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get to 295 or so

full beacon
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3????

dry swallow
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hey btw how do you upgrade shrines

true hamlet
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I guess so

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it's just permanent 2

dry swallow
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i just kinda unlocked them and did idk how to use them

true hamlet
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you can place a third

untold wren
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wheres the jewels on the map?

near latch
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So uh, how do yall keep your maestro as highest lvl in skills btw? He is so shit at efficiency that his exp/hr end up lower than specialized classes for any particular skill

true hamlet
dry swallow
full beacon
dry swallow
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a 17 quest long quest?

true hamlet
near latch
true hamlet
full beacon
true hamlet
scenic pewter
true hamlet
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these moustache men have never combed their beard

novel jolt
warm grove
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it don't go higher than 100

true hamlet
warm grove
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if you want more sample rate, construction lvl and a few other sources are your go to

novel jolt
warm grove
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like alchemy and vials are big for it, as well as royal sampler

true hamlet
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yeah this one is huge

novel jolt
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Well my current print size I think is like 90% of afk

true hamlet
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that's the max

warm grove
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that's the max

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same brain same answer

true hamlet
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but you also have sources of printer output

dry swallow
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not the left

true hamlet
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which in turn help printing be better than afk skilling

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consult the wiki

novel jolt
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So must be a skill issue then for sample sizes for afk then lmao

true hamlet
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I mean, I'm definitely not going to be making 59B an hour afk skilling

warm grove
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some day maybe Grumblo_Pray

full beacon
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59b per chop surely

warm grove
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one must imagine, alchemy

true hamlet
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waiting for w7 skill to give 100x summoning winner bonus

fresh parrot
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btw this is active kills only for the breeding procs right

warm grove
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yeah only active, works in tempest mode too

fresh parrot
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sad

dry swallow
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how do you inc your stat books

fresh parrot
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thought I could cheese with 1hr candies, but ww does make bm active grind much easier

dry swallow
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do you NEED libary?

full beacon
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yes you need it to be built

true hamlet
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you mean these

dry swallow
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yea i have the l\

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yea those

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are they all from libary

fresh parrot
dry swallow
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my books are maxed at 127 from libary

full beacon
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not all, but most

dry swallow
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you can do any of the 15 books i think?

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my str has a 127 book

full beacon
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one of the pets gives boost

true hamlet
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nah, it's another talent

fresh parrot
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that's from later classes increasing your max talent level

cursive galleon
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any talent that can be increased by other talents u cant use library on them

dry swallow
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m

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so how do yall have like 900s on ur stat books

warm grove
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other talents mostly

true hamlet
#

I mean, there's people hitting 1.6k levels into those books lol

dry swallow
#

i have

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327 on my warrior str

cursive galleon
#

vman, he increases the cap

dry swallow
#

rage basics *

#

i have journeyman

#

💔

cursive galleon
#

later on you will get maestro and he's going to help you a fair amount with printing, but when u reach w4 and do vman quest your stats will skyrocket after a speed run

tender nova
#

how does the monolithic refiller strat work in breeding battles?

fresh parrot
#

which map would be the best for bm active farming sus_sip currently doing w4 cans

dry swallow
#

that stupid fucking bush ate 2k peanuts

cursive galleon
dry swallow
#

when it only needed 1

indigo stratus
#

WW goated for killroy

warm grove
#

fr, got 400 skulls

cursive galleon
#

mman is probably the worst questline out of the 3 for beginner class

winged raft
#

what merit upgrades do i prioritize in w4?

near latch
#

well, cant do rift

cursive galleon
#

!merit4

candid scarabBOT
#

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
salt Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

near latch
#

i cant clear the 500/5 min rn

#

i get to about 430

true hamlet
#

it's going to be a while before I can hit 2k killroy

fresh parrot
indigo stratus
warm grove
#

oh, then just kill stuff in tempest mode, do 2 things at once

warm grove
fresh parrot
#

no wanna GuyMontag I just need my surm spice man

true hamlet
#

next few weeks (hopefully just a few), I won't be getting anything from killroy because I need to try unlock 3rd slot

#

I've seen the graphs and I don't like the chances

indigo stratus
#

Ye ww is probably your best bet for 2k now

true hamlet
#

not like sb was ever used (maybe other than citringes)

indigo stratus
#

SB was used for hole too

cursive galleon
#

what do you meannnn

vernal geyser
#

Alright I got some good amarok gear for my DK. @warm grove what helmet should I get? I’m assuming not amarok?

true hamlet
#

killroy?

cursive galleon
true hamlet
indigo stratus
warm grove
honest cipher
#

I remember people saying we need lvl 1100 total lab for something but idk why. Google failed me, anyone can help? I got the god that gives divinity while in lab so my whole team have been stuck there for a while, wonderring when I should get them out.

winged raft
#

!merit3

candid scarabBOT
#

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
salt Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

warm grove
vagrant plover
#

is there a way to reset merit points? 😅

vernal geyser
indigo stratus
cursive galleon
#

nope

#

as long as its not w6 u fucked up you should be fine

true hamlet
#

I haven't cleaned up my WW, still reminiscent of it's BM days

warm grove
true hamlet
#

dear sir, I think you need to look at the extent of the neglect

honest cipher
true hamlet
#

don't mind the vman, I was just trying to milk out 1 dr for boss farming lol

warm grove
honest cipher
#

2100 is waaay too much for my exp multipliers lmao

indigo stratus
#

Yeah, I have 2 bubo, just locked em in there for few days to week to push 2100

#

Rest on monument

cursive galleon
#

u made 2 bubos?

warm grove
true hamlet
#

I honestly prefer 2 bubos over 2 es, although I have 2 es lol

full beacon
#

is there a final mvspd breakpoint where you just don't need the pots anymore?

warm grove
#

350% for visual movespeed max

indigo stratus
#

Yeah, 2 bubo is kinda useful when they're in hole or whatever

true hamlet
cursive galleon
#

to be fair i should have gotten a 2nd DB instead of 2nd ES considering i have doot

warm grove
#

gotta join my party with swoldier lol

indigo stratus
#

Have 2 cc I can do, without having active

red compass
warm grove
#

never

red compass
#

L

full beacon
warm grove
#

maybe next month

#

yeah those second elite classes got no love or use

red compass
#

"flawless" gear and "epic" weapons

warm grove
#

you are simply jealous

red compass
#

yea naturally

true hamlet
#

vman r2 💔

warm grove
#

my WW tools are actual trash lol

indigo stratus
#

I have 2 bubo bc I've been playing long before w5 was even thought of, and went 2 shaman for the 2 cc, before bubo or es was released iirc.

true hamlet
#

2 bubos isn't bad though

#

ES is just slightly better log prints

indigo stratus
#

Indeed

warm grove
#

yeah 2 bubo is nice for easy lab too

true hamlet
#

but there's no way I'm going around telling people I have 2 spiritual monks 😂

warm grove
#

vaguely familiar to me, not sure from where

true hamlet
#

it was put down as bubo masterclass in the wiki I believe

warm grove
#

oh that's why then

full beacon
#

sounds sick

true hamlet
#

sounds, awful lol

full beacon
#

why lol

true hamlet
#

Deathbringer, Mayheim, Wind Walker, Royal Guard, Arcane Cultist and... Spiritual Monk?

red compass
#

THE MONK RAAAHHHH

full beacon
#

idk just reminds me of D&D don't have any negative baggage with that word

true hamlet
#

and I'm pretty sure it's just a recoloured maestro

warm grove
#

a yellow maestro Grumblo_Pray

true hamlet
#

I might max this useless vial next

#

w7 prep fr

warm grove
#

gotta max all of them

red compass
#

get thread and nails done

true hamlet
#

too much effort

warm grove
#

just takes some time, almost there

red compass
#

just claim anvil wtf

indigo stratus
#

Nah, it's not that difficult

warm grove
true hamlet
#

I have not touched my anvil bubble since w2 😂

red compass
true hamlet
warm grove
red compass
#

ye but he haid too much effort

true hamlet
#

yep

red compass
#

or she, idfk, idfc either

modest gust
#

my spontaneous combustion has been stuck on rank 1 for 2 years

true hamlet
#

ok.

modest gust
#

help

true hamlet
#

let the bar fill to rank up

modest gust
#

how do i fix

red compass
#

bro has auto refine on

full beacon
#

2 years...

red compass
#

got him like 100k salts prolly hahaha

warm grove
#

probably this much i'd imagine

modest gust
#

can i ever stop auto refining

true hamlet
#

yes

modest gust
#

how

full beacon
#

do you mean can you stop manual refining?

#

cuz that's the only way to rank up

#

if you have it on auto it'll never fill up, which is the req to rank up

exotic swallow
#

me love

modest gust
#

nvm i found out

indigo stratus
#

I need to reset my enchants and focus that one

astral lava
plain harness
#

do giant monsters drop candies or smtg

astral lava
#

~yes

plain harness
#

guys should i green stack wicked

plain harness
#

but it'd be really funny

burnt warren
#

What difficulty should i farm chizoar for scarfs and also any tips before i start

night oracle
#

There is a bug with justice where the retirement chest doesn't cost a mental health he asks

burnt warren
astral lava
exotic swallow
plain harness
#

get it up brother

last grotto
#

what lvl should i shoot for on all my shiny pets

full beacon
#

3 is good to start if you have nothing

last grotto
full beacon
#

I meant lvl 0 shinies

nimble saddle
#

Does anyone have the guide for lv115 with 4 pets only

night oracle
full beacon
#

y'all really have nothing to buy?

night oracle
#

🐳

indigo stratus
#

Sure they do... 16x ww dust per day

night oracle
nimble saddle
indigo stratus
#

Yep, daily

night oracle
#

WTF

#

I should read

indigo stratus
#

32hrs dust for every 24 hrs, wild. 🐳

vernal geyser
#

To push W4 should I start back on map 1 and begin filling out the death note?

#

I’m thinking of just doing the 25k kills first per map or something like that

#

I still don’t really see why so many ppl recommended DK for the very first elite subclass to push with lol, the low damage and the high accuracy requirement sucks

#

I do see the vision, I really do, but it’s a tall ask for new players compared to the ES who needs normal accuracy lol and gets way higher damage much more easily

full beacon
#

that's why I pushed with sb :p, not active mind you

vernal geyser
#

Which one is that?

#

I wish I didn’t spend most of my upgrade stones on wisdom for the DK ;p

full beacon
#

bowman

vernal geyser
#

Ooo I love bowman very high damage

#

Maybe I’ll do ES for the wisdom damage and just try to get more accuracy somewhere else

full beacon
#

I did a lot of actual "playing" in w1-3 and I couldn't stand 100% mvspd so bowman was my main the whole time

vernal geyser
#

Nice nice

#

Meanwhile I equally leveled everyone lol

#

I don’t regret it but I do see how I need to pick one now that I’m in W4 especially and push with that main

full beacon
#

oh I mean I equally lvled everyone

#

I just only ran around on bowman

#

everyone else did afk

vernal geyser
#

Oh yeah

novel jolt
#

I always mained dk, cuz it was my first char and my last

#

The rest sort of got dragged along

#

Need to re update all my chars besides dk

viral prawn
#

what class should be focusing on building for progressing worlds, bosses and ects?

novel jolt
#

Group damage any wizard

viral prawn
novel jolt
#

But you will need one of each class including elite class

novel jolt
#

Dk for the reset ability, but es for the map disposal

viral prawn
#

oh alr tysm

#

asides from alchemy is there any other way for me to greatly increase defense and accuracy?

full beacon
#

vault

#

clicker games

#

oh there's a star talent too, gives acc if your mvspd is over 200

#

which is pretty easy to do if you hold 3 mvspd pots

true hamlet
#

give me the last 4 strung tooth already Soulface

#

f, it wasn't enough

#

might have to do some parking soon

full beacon
#

what diff you do

true hamlet
#

chaotic

full beacon
#

dang

true hamlet
#

not as costly as nm, not as painful as normal

steel nymph
#

Low dr thenbunni

true hamlet
#

I mean, 30x is kinda low I guess

steel nymph
#

It is

#

U usin vman?

true hamlet
#

yeah

steel nymph
#

Then ye it's low

true hamlet
#

nothing to make it better, it's 32x at it's peak

#

I removed the cakes

#

nothing that I have sitting around at least

graceful flare
#

Can i drop the dna splicer for world 2 recipe if i dont have the anvil tab 4 open?

true hamlet
#

yes

final solar
#

what is best place to farm statues in w3?

true hamlet
#

which statue you want

final solar
#

mb i mean crystal farm

true hamlet
#

bloodbones for equinox mirrors or neyeptunes for black lenses imo

final solar
#

okok thx man

true hamlet
#

they're both really flat too

brisk mauve
stoic vortex
#

why cant I enter pet arena? the unlimited entry skill is already been activated? I can't start it too when im pressing enter battle.

rough herald
#

gotta do it before

stoic vortex
#

ahhh thats lame

brisk mauve
stoic vortex
#

thanks for the answer

#

wished they put a warning that I have to do it before

steel nymph
brisk mauve
steel nymph
#

Still playin why

#

Just not as active

#

Just mostly let the guys play active

night oracle
#

The earth ;)

steel nymph
magic haven
#

is this good?

#

or the tenacy ring better

#

*tenacity

steel nymph
#

Well read and compare

white lintel
#

Meh

steel nymph
#

It is meh

magic haven
steel nymph
#

Ur worrying abt defense? hahaha

magic haven
#

cuz later on 11 defence anint gonna do anything

steel nymph
#

That's the least u should worry about dawg

#

Compare stats bro

#

Weapon power, their miscs their upgrade slots

magic haven
#

ok

#

i see that one is expensive as fuck and one is very easy to get, i see which one is better now tysm

stoic stag
#

Should I just candy w4 to get to the elite classes? Or save it for w5

steel nymph
cedar grail
#

guys i think i might have soft locked one of my characters?

idle bluff
#

Hey so what's the best way to get more skill points

#

Im lvl 105 on my bc

magic haven
cedar grail
#

i cant complete gobo's quest

compact pagoda
#

😔

cedar grail
#

because i already did it?

compact pagoda
#

level up

cedar grail
#

its the breed mushrooms till you get squirrel

#

but i did that before i got the quest

#

so now i cant move foward on my mc

magic haven
#

uhhh idk

#

u dont need to do gobo quest to move forward?

cedar grail
#

nope its fine

#

i needed the spice (sorry words were confusing) (was worried i had to go without world 4 for a while there)

compact pagoda
warped raven
#

divinity is my new favorite skill

compact pagoda
#

u love hole more happytroll

dawn stag
#

why cant i get this to go through?

#

the boss cant hurt me and im not getting hit anyways

plain harness
#

ugh which bubble for damage

plain harness
true hamlet
night oracle
#

Sneaky....

plain harness
compact pagoda
#

i see ur wand

night oracle
#

My what?

#

My dude wasn't even on the picture

mint rivet
#

Greetings everyone

#

👋🏿

compact pagoda
idle bluff
#

So question new i to world 4 I have most of my classes unlocked their 4th tier what lvl should my skills be on each character rn

compact pagoda
#

what u need

night oracle
#

Not that high until you got maestro

idle bluff
#

My maestro is the best so far on skills obviously

#

I just know im missing alot like I have have 7 viles lol I havent been doing them and my drops I can only hold 167 witch wucks

night oracle
#

Oh you already got maestro? Then you could try getting them up a little to get some basic samples going, but the lab is also very important so definitely don't put everyone on skilling

idle bluff
#

Oh that's what i just did lol for lvls

night oracle
#

Yeah, lab is probably top priority because of things like 3x refinery speed

idle bluff
#

On alchemy what should my cap be at for the drops

idle bluff
mint rivet
idle bluff
#

Holy duck

keen parcel
night oracle
idle bluff
keen parcel
mint rivet
#

I am curious to see my accuracy

keen parcel
mint rivet
#

oh i forgor, now each char gets these

idle bluff
soft girder
#

guys the game doesnt play with minimized window or smthing?

hard thistle
keen parcel
idle bluff
keen parcel
#

Like saltlick / vials / meals

idle bluff
#

Ohhhh

soft girder
#

i left the game to run overnight with bubo on rift, it got me 3k out of 5k skulls needed for the mission and 0 alchemy progress

idle bluff
#

I don't have salt lick yet

#

And my viles are garbage

soft girder
#

why is that

#

does the tentacles dont affect cranium?

keen parcel
idle bluff
hard thistle
#

Lava should make this useful somehowhappytroll

viral radish
keen parcel
soft girder
keen parcel
#

Also the couldern upgrade in gemshop to increase capacity by 1.5x is verry helpfull

idle bluff
#

I appreciate the wisdom I went it and rushed a bit not revising how important everything else is

silver rose
#

best lab setup?

keen parcel
mint rivet
viral radish
restive pond
#

Can't I pick up the cards ? 😭

viral radish
#

on which skills does it not work?
Divinity and?

mint rivet
#

idk

keen parcel
hard thistle
#

10 div pearls should be crafted into 1 holy pearl.

mint rivet
#

anotha one down, 14 more

restive pond
restive pond
hard thistle
keen parcel
mint rivet
#

so close to mf8

keen parcel
#

Would bring me over 2k pearls Grumblo

keen parcel
mint rivet
#

or 2008 pearls?

#

it would bring you 11 years ago

hard thistle
#

Better then Wasting a space on chest

keen parcel
hard thistle
#

I don't Grumblo_Pray

mint rivet
#

under 1hr!!

#

I can hourly click books too 💀

#

overnight i gained like 15 sneaking lvls, ww is insane

stiff grove
#

whats the meta for spice?

true hamlet
#

collection?

stiff grove
true hamlet
#

!guide

stiff grove
#

isnt this outdated?

true hamlet
#

should be fine, I'm pretty sure there aren't any crazy changes to breeding

stiff grove
#

mkay

silver rose
#

best pet team for fights?

thorny zinc
true hamlet
thorny zinc
#

wdym?

true hamlet
#

mastery 1 bonus

thorny zinc
#

i dont have the riftGuyMontag

true hamlet
thorny zinc
#

next 3 upgrades are hugeGrumblo_Pray

true hamlet
#

perhaps

#

foodlust unlocked

thorny zinc
#

damn gg

mint rivet
true hamlet
#

I spammed my 92 fertiliser lol

thorny zinc
#

i will do rift i guess

true hamlet
#

your kph should be quite high right?

thorny zinc
#

yeah its 2m/h

#

with db i mean

true hamlet
#

oh, seems kinda low

#

let me check mine

indigo stratus
#

Is barb good for fishing because it’s faster or because it get a lot of fishes at a time

true hamlet
#

sorry, it's on vman

#

hmm well, doesn't matter, 2m will get the job done

#

just hope that you don't lose multikill as they scale

thorny zinc
#

damn now i need to farm rosaries and veils

mint rivet
true hamlet
#

I haven't even gotten my first lotus lol

mint rivet
#

1-2 more days and dragon is 150-meaning i can do smth else with my chars!

thorny zinc
#

oh its 2m without nobi i forgot that i dont have it linked

mint rivet
#

so glad i don't have to worry about whether to link arctis/omni or nobi

thorny zinc
mint rivet
#

also, all chars now got this

#

i need t replace my traps for xp

true hamlet
#

give me my last 4 strung tooth please

mint rivet
#

useless pts 😦

true hamlet
#

didn't even book?

mint rivet
thorny zinc
#

do i need to do smth with those skills?

true hamlet
#

yeah I guess

compact pagoda
#

level up

thorny zinc
#

how ?

compact pagoda
#

go candy

thorny zinc
#

idk how that skill works GuyMontag

compact pagoda
#

try reading

true hamlet
#

welp, now that I have the 200 gstack dream, I need to start gstack farming Soulface

thorny zinc
#

ok i understand now

mint rivet
#

time to replace traps

true hamlet
#

I might need to do some foods

mint rivet
#

20 mil in 1 slot is crazy

#

and i did not even exalt the fish carry cap stamp yet

mint rivet
#

these +1's are too common ngl

true hamlet
#

I need to test my w1 gstack rates

#

probably pots, leaves, food

compact pagoda
mint rivet
true hamlet
thorny zinc
compact pagoda
compact pagoda
thorny zinc
#

i have bad item im working on loadout rn

compact pagoda
#

fake

thorny zinc
compact pagoda
#

ur higher than me GuyMontag

mint rivet
true hamlet
#

right off the bat, I see some that I can potentially do, ty for help

mint rivet
#

np

#

btw , there are 0 quest gstacks there

true hamlet
#

I noticed

compact pagoda
mint rivet
#

i believe i could push to 230 gstacks

thorny zinc
compact pagoda
true hamlet
#

I could probably get +3 from starfire, marbi and dreadlo bar gstack, maybe +3 from 1st 3 leaves? +1 from turtle, +2 from last 2 smithing items etc. there's still easy ones left is my point

mint rivet
#

doing craftable stuff (anvil tab 2,3, best bullets, other stuff) , gshard bars and quest stuff +frisbees

compact pagoda
true hamlet
#

oh true, I don't feel like printing frisbees though

compact pagoda
#

i don't even exist then

mint rivet
thorny zinc
compact pagoda
mint rivet
true hamlet
thorny zinc
#

i need rosaries and better veils now

mint rivet
#

end goal is 299 gstacks

compact pagoda
#

im still using +11 bombs 😔

mint rivet
#

and while u get gcheese, u get even more gham

true hamlet
#

I'm going to need to craft the bullets though, push a bit of carry cap first

mint rivet
#

gham is great for placing traps, i just always keep on my vman

thorny zinc
#

also i have 4 more characters to level them up to 500

compact pagoda
#

so fast

mint rivet
true hamlet
#

yeah

mint rivet
#

time to unequip skilled dimwit

true hamlet
#

"should" is the key word

thorny zinc
#

am i cooked that my mining lvl on bubo and vman is 100+💀

true hamlet
#

nah

compact pagoda
#

other 100 when

thorny zinc
#

i just candied for the mono quest i wasnt planning on pushing levels

true hamlet
#

rip the 2 that the ES has

thorny zinc
mint rivet
#

i notice some neglect over there on smithing

#

time to fix that right now

thorny zinc
mint rivet
#

no

#

2 seconds of coldseeker bullets

thorny zinc
#

oh yeah i forgot

mint rivet
#

better now

#

imagine when I am gstacking coldseekers

#

this was jsut 1.5% of a gstack

thorny zinc
#

lmao

mint rivet
#

i need 5 billion spitfire for a gstack

thorny zinc
#

so is this kind of rebirth mechanic ? do i get to max floor over and over again for the pink artifacts or how are they called?

true hamlet
#

nah

#

the pristine charms are just rare drops

mint rivet
#

leaving this here

thorny zinc
#

oh

mint rivet
#

for reference to see how much more i get in a day

#

replacing traps rn

#

first time using undending energy

true hamlet
#

let's go gambling

compact pagoda
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real

radiant jay
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Does the Beast Master's Arena Spirit not work if Arena is already on cooldown?

thorny zinc
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gambling🔥

true hamlet
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I like how my vman just has the best gear out of all my chars, like it's not even close

radiant jay
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seems wrong tbh, but thanks for confirming

true hamlet
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for reference btw

thorny zinc
split raptor
thorny zinc
mint rivet
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vman is smashing these gollems

thorny zinc
split raptor
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Yeah

quiet crane
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gm ppl

true hamlet
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sun already setting out here

compact pagoda
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shush

thorny zinc
mint rivet
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insane giant luck so far

compact pagoda
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no u

true hamlet
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I forgot we have storage caps

split raptor
mint rivet
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its bugging me too

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though at least these chizoars are amazing for this

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24 fragments per obol

true hamlet
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still no tooth

quiet crane