midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[thorny zinc]

im trying to fix them but its slow

[worn raptor]

why refinery

[thorny zinc]

its good?

[worn raptor]

xd?

[thorny zinc]

wdym xd?

its refinery speed

[worn raptor]

your speed?

[worn raptor]

your main source for refinery speed is rift construction mastery

stamp sucks

[white lintel]

youve been slacking

[left tangle]

Is there a way to make w1 kills be any faster for dnote

[thorny zinc]

yeah ik but i think the stamp is worth exalting

[vital verge]

DK has 15.33x DR and 1 in 42 crystal chance, how much do yall think it will take to get a few statues?

[worn raptor]

maybe idk

[thorny zinc]

a lot of ppl are saying is good

[worn raptor]

good, i start with less than 10x dr and 1/70

[astral lava]

No one slacks better than me

[subtle shale]

takes me a few weeks to max all to onyx with 23 dr and 1-43 cc

[thorny zinc]

[subtle shale]

including the 200k for the kapow

[vital verge]

:D

[copper plaza]

anyone know a good 4 pet team for round 115?

[true hamlet]

Eh

[subtle shale]

arent you supposed to have a 6 pet team at round 115?

[viscid quartz]

so many oldies

[subtle shale]

or 5

[vital verge]

its for equinox

[copper plaza]

for equionix

[thorny zinc]

you mea for equinox right?

[worn raptor]

equinox dream

[subtle shale]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-teary-eyed-sad-the-pursuit-of-happyness-gif-14485222367965496601

[copper plaza]

well i guess were doing slow rng-

[thorny zinc]

im waiting for peapod tbh

i need t4 splicers tho..

[worn raptor]

[wraith pollen]

When do you unlock a pea pod

[wraith pollen]

I need that in my life

[worn raptor]

w4

[copper plaza]

i would but like i just cant wait for more recipes considering how slow it took for me to get to sneaking mastery-

[worn raptor]

and w3

[wraith pollen]

What mobs

[honest cradle]

well you cant candy w6 so this ww is going to take ages

[worn raptor]

corgi and... i forget next

[thorny zinc]

makes sense

[worn raptor]

corgi and porcupine

hedgehog lmao

[copper plaza]

not to mention the bones and the new compass i dont have the time for all that active grinding 😭

[thorny zinc]

eh dont stress about them now

[white lintel]

the game is just active grinding

[thorny zinc]

db can be a lot faster after gambit

i really like the active aspect tbh

[copper plaza]

im more hoping that they get to able to be afked in the future but as it stands now my max limit for both of them is world 3

[thorny zinc]

next update he will add afk bones so you are safe

[worn raptor]

lava repeat this about 7 streams ago

[thorny zinc]

xdd

[copper plaza]

🙏 😭

[white lintel]

never gonna happen

[thorny zinc]

trust lava bro

[honest cradle]

Any explain how bravery works? It just tells me to get lost

[thorny zinc]

get lost

[white lintel]

right, bc lava's communications are so trustworthy and he never goes back on his word ever

[thorny zinc]

you need to afk for 1 hour first

[thorny zinc]

ofc

[honest cradle]

afk at the bravery room?

[thorny zinc]

yes

not active afk btw

[honest cradle]

kk I can do that instead of farming motherload for a bit

[errant sandal]

Yes

[thorny zinc]

15 more levels

[wraith pollen]

Why is this game so much more complicated and harder than Dark Souls

[thorny zinc]

idle games lore

[west pilot]

Equinox?

[wraith pollen]

Also why not on samurai’s?

[thorny zinc]

not yet unlocked

[wraith pollen]

Okay just curious

[thorny zinc]

i will push soon tho

i have 1m+ kills/h so should be easy

[wraith pollen]

I’m getting 36k on Bamboo spirits

[honest cradle]

looks like class related discounts in alch was a troll

[oak mason]

How so?

[honest cradle]

2k forest souls on my es, 2k forest souls on my bm

[thorny zinc]

prob its too cheap to have discount

[vital verge]

im gonna start to buy those

[oak mason]

It could be that its too cheap for the discount to give a meaningful difference because it does help a lot later on

[vital verge]

the grey chips never come into rotation

and its just a 1 in 11 chance to get one of them i guess

[thorny zinc]

real i got one from gambling

[vital verge]

i wont wait until 2026 to get a chip lmao

[honest cradle]

the end of 2026

or is it that weird backwards thing that other countries do

[vital verge]

the weird backward thing is the MM/DD/YYYY

[oak mason]

You mean basically everybody except for the US

[vital verge]

this one is normal

[honest cradle]

lmao

well my bm is at 14k kills an hour this will take a while

[agile musk]

Do i have to collect souls with the apparatus with every character?

[oak mason]

Yeah its character specific, atleast means you wont have to TP to the specific map per character + you can use up all your charge at once

[blazing orchid]

did the beastmaster's ballista attack get nerfed? every time i use it, it automatically fires a single shot in a random direction

[lofty abyss]

does double strike increase damage?

stat dmg

[frank gull]

Nope. But your afk gain will increase

[lofty abyss]

i watned to hit 20M dmg for the deathnote

[toxic quartz]

you mean mk?

[lofty abyss]

yep

this close to getting enough dmg

ill go equip boots or sum i find

[vital verge]

is there something i need to activate before re-sampling traps?

on the WW

[thorny zinc]

soon

[lofty abyss]

ended up making a weapon, it was quite cheap

6 a day </3

go garbage island

[thorny zinc]

[lofty abyss]

yippie!

[vital verge]

nice, this is your go to i guess

[lofty abyss]

pluh!

[red compass]

gettin T of dmg with that gear is wild

[lofty abyss]

why is your lvl 421 char running basic equipment T T

[vital verge]

he already strong enough

[lofty abyss]

good point

[vital verge]

hes not my favorite anyway

[lofty abyss]

this one also gets the scraps

[red compass]

1st dk vs 2nd dk treatment b like

[thorny zinc]

multitool stamp lvl 150

[red compass]

use guilded bruh

[narrow timber]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but it's regarding Death Note so i guess so? Anyway - 2 days ago i just spent time getting every death note page for worlds 2-3 to 1m kills so i could unlock my elite class for beginner. (trying to avoid spoilers lol) , so i know for a fact most of my kills were at the baseline 1m kills. Today i open my death note and every single world has well above 3m kills, and i havent done more mobbing on these maps since i unlocked my elite class

[thorny zinc]

no shit

[wild flicker]

guys is it a problem to use the dreadloard trapping for waiting to arrive 120? Doese it make a big difference if i make them marble? I been waiting for month to arrive 120

[somber marsh]

just saw u wrote 2 dk´s question since i just saw a guide tellin me not to pick elite classes on alts for a maybe 3rd elite class will there be a changer item or can i delete them one point or how can i fix it later ? :c anyone knows something about that?

[red compass]

j makin sure u do it

[red compass]

u did vman speedrun?

[thorny zinc]

i always use them on good stamps

[red compass]

u can use full xp build and u can push lvls p quickly

[narrow timber]

yes does that do something to your death note kills?

[wild flicker]

i been wating moths im around 115

[red compass]

there is elite token i think

u can j leave em classless, and itll b fine. but ppl overall go 2 dks and then 2sb/2es

but u can also go 2bb/2bubo

[zenith hare]

no

[red compass]

idk, waiting seems fine but u can j commit and itll b fine

[red compass]

yes it changes ur kills

[zenith hare]

2sb has been out of meta ever since hole release, and 2 bubo has never been good

[red compass]

look it up in idleon wiki

[somber marsh]

the only token i find is for squire barbarian that subclas not elite :x

[boreal olive]

can someone tell me if this is the right team?

[zenith hare]

it's a limited time item that comes around sometimes. dw ab it tho

[zenith hare]

unless you have alchemic/flashy unlocked, yes

[red compass]

looter, not whale

[thorny zinc]

5 more levels

[somber marsh]

nyuu thy so much i was worried since i did try a lot myself and now did read in discord about don´t make elite doubles

[zenith hare]

it's fine to make doubles, it's just the order you do it in matters for early game progression

[vital verge]

some guy said my trapping is weird, is it really?

[red compass]

lol

[thorny zinc]

its good idk why he said that lol

[zenith hare]

2 dks is a must basically, then 2es and bb is the 9/10th

however people hold them as beginner cause master releases

[boreal olive]

trying it

[jagged vessel]

Is bm or sb bettwr for killroy?

[zenith hare]

we don't know how the meta will shift

[zenith hare]

bm, even without master class

[red compass]

i dont see any use for 2es

[jagged vessel]

Divinity

[red compass]

eh not much

[zenith hare]

extra div link, more div xp, higher log prints, better mob mat printer

[red compass]

doot moment

[zenith hare]

vastly better then second bubo

[zenith hare]

only like 3% of player has doot

[red compass]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[boreal olive]

hmmm they cant win for some reason 🤔

[zenith hare]

always assume no doot for account suggestions unless they have shown they have it

[zenith hare]

1 loss isn't a "can't win"

minus the very best teams needing late w3/w4 pets, teams have ab a 10-20% success rate

namely due to the first few attacks

if any pet dies early, you lose

[vital verge]

bubo is great tho

[red compass]

u can win all spices w that team

[zenith hare]

^

[red compass]

holy lmao

[zenith hare]

yes it may take a lot of attempts. but fact is you can

[red compass]

yep

[thorny zinc]

WTFFF

[lofty abyss]

woah
did you progress like that or did you buy the subclass swappers

[thorny zinc]

what is that account lmao

[vital verge]

i just edited

[thorny zinc]

a lol

[zenith hare]

wouldn't work anyways

[lofty abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/crocodile-dead-gif-17913348030995997030

[zenith hare]

the subclass swapper only goes from wizard to shamin

[vital verge]

original

[lofty abyss]

oh right

[vital verge]

as you can see, my account is made out of bad choices

[red compass]

good photoshop skills

[vital verge]

such as 5th jman, only having a BM on the 8th

[boreal olive]

youre so right they winning

[vital verge]

nah i edited on the website's code

[red compass]

oh lol

[vital verge]

i am trash at actual photoshop

[lofty abyss]

i got bb, divinity mage, sb, tanky knight, shaman, bm, maestro, maestro

[red compass]

oh nah

[boreal olive]

so can the same team continue with some luck?

[night oracle]

Got two new hats :D

[red compass]

gimme that beanie plss its the only hat i fkin need for this event

[night oracle]

I just woke up from a nap while my game was doing some dust farming and my damage went up by like 20k without upgrading

[scenic pewter]

if i have jocund and multkill etc does it translate to more "kills" when coming back from afk? i'm very confused because i left my main afking on thermisters level for 7 minutes and he had 1500 kills. like that is not possible even while active, and i read that active always beats afk

hes just a barb, i havent made it to w4 for the next level of classes. i have windwalker robe + axolotl etc tho so 130%+ afk gain but still

[red compass]

jocund is a full multiplier on all ur kills. if he has 1500 kills, u are lacking acc or dmg idk but sums not rly right

active is indeed better than afk

[scenic pewter]

yeah but 1500 kills in 7 minutes?

[red compass]

check the afk info tab

[scenic pewter]

i came back after he afk'd for 4 mins and i got 1k kills

[night oracle]

Time to go back to sleep :D

[red compass]

again, afk info

[scenic pewter]

oh huh ok. i guess i underestimated kills? but i dont think i get that much active

[red compass]

gn lol

ur lacking dmg it seems like

[night oracle]

Take off your prayer

[red compass]

or maybe thats how early game kills are idk

[night oracle]

It's not good and it's +250% health to enemies

[red compass]

ah yea forgot prayers

[scenic pewter]

im one shotting everything tho

[night oracle]

Yeah, but multikill

[scenic pewter]

i dont think i have multikill other than 16% from the stamp

i'll take it off

[night oracle]

Get deathnote structure

[scenic pewter]

yea i dont have that still early on construction

so im going to get 12k+ kills per hour even as active?

thats 3 kills per second. thats definitely not happening right now

[night oracle]

But either way, that prayer gives an additive class exp bonus, so it's only a VERY small amount you gain which is just not worth it

Does this bonus also scale stuff obtained from trapper drone?

[unreal basalt]

What factors affect kill per hour?

[red compass]

drone is same as this

[night oracle]

AFK gains rate, your damage/acc, in w3 you get multikill which multiplies your kills/h

[red compass]

respawn rate too

[unreal basalt]

Does defend and accuracy also affect?

[night oracle]

Well, if your survivability isn't 100% you "die" while offline and it stops gaining

And if your accuracy isn't 100%, you miss so you lose a lot too

[unreal basalt]

Alr thx

[scenic pewter]

yeah so i just active'd for 5 mins and only got like 300 kills. how am i afking for 5 mins and getting 1000+?

[idle saddle]

man, 70 to 80 breeding is gonna take a helluva long time huh

[night oracle]

I kinda forgot about that lol, does WWs uwu rawr also scale it or does that not work?

[red compass]

uhh prolly is counted in the equation

[unreal basalt]

Bruh i just figured out why my kph is so low

[night oracle]

Because elite classes don't have good "respawn" abilities yet probably, so afk will be more kills/h than active a lot of the time

[scenic pewter]

but i thought it was a truth that active is always better than afk? or is that only when having elite classes

[night oracle]

Nope

Depends on the class

[red compass]

eh, u get active bonuses w vault, and in general active gets u more stuff

esp since respawn skills are actually used when active

[night oracle]

DK/DB/ES/BC/WW/SB are better active, the rest isn't (as far as I know)

But those are all elite/master classes

[night oracle]

Oh true, I forgot about vault

My dps on abomination is about 1b/5min

[toxic quartz]

you mentioned literally all classes except vman

[night oracle]

Vman sucks for combat :D

[toxic quartz]

yeah fair

wasnt db also the best afk fighter?

[night oracle]

And I guess that is all classes yeah

[night oracle]

But I meant only after hitting those stages of the classes specifically, so classes before it aren't good

[toxic quartz]

yeah

no respawn mechanics for most of them is horrible

[night oracle]

I love how hard WW goes when active now

[toxic quartz]

only hunter has uwu rawrr I think before elites

and without the ww boost it sucks horribly

[night oracle]

Yeah but it lasts 30s and is 2min cooldown

[toxic quartz]

I love the big bow now that its not manual

I hope they do the same with bb and the concoctions

[night oracle]

IKRRR

[toxic quartz]

bb no

bubo mb

[night oracle]

Wait wdym?

[toxic quartz]

they are the next due to masterclass

[night oracle]

Oh, the bottles you throw?

[toxic quartz]

the bottles skill yeah

[night oracle]

The problem is that you can hold to change effects

[toxic quartz]

yeah but does someone use them

the damage one does good damage too, its a pity its manual

[night oracle]

Same with vman coins though

[robust marsh]

What is that pokemon

[strange flare]

ITS PIKACHU

[thorny zinc]

getting better

[viscid quartz]

is it worth saving all my statues until after all onyx?

60k speed statues tempting me fr

[red compass]

well do the onyx quest on all chars to get the extra stuff, other than that nah just pop em in. u could stack em until u get v high statues bonus i guess

[viscid quartz]

wait why on all chars? doesnt it apply to everyone

[red compass]

u get sum statues, kachow and exp iirc

[viscid quartz]

ahhh i didnt check the rewards thanks

worth it but not at my current stage too low dr i think

[red compass]

👍

[steep basalt]

does the royal sampler prayer reduce exp gained on my divinity?

[red compass]

nah im p sure it doesnt

[steep basalt]

its worth to have it equipped correct?

[shut hull]

you can test this

[steep basalt]

itll take about an hour to, id rather just ask

[shut hull]

I think once you hit 90 without it you can take it off

[steep basalt]

90 what

[viral radish]

Sample %

[shut hull]

90% sample

[red compass]

once u hit 130 or so sample rate with royal sampler u take it off

since its a 40% or so iirc

[steep basalt]

where do i find my sample %?

[fallen hill]

What spice is needed for cheese?

[red compass]

IT or u can check in skill tab > construction i think

[odd harbor]

Is there a way to increase ladles/day other than efficiency

[red compass]

PO

u can get double ladles

[steep basalt]

oh boy im at 58%

equip i will

oh boy 58% WITH the prayer

[red compass]

yea thats alr itll go up as time goes

u can lvl up the prayer btw

[steep basalt]

i did as much as i could

[red compass]

👍

[gritty elm]

Where are scorpio critters?

[woeful karma]

its 3 scrafty's in a trenchskincoat

[woeful karma]

AE2 moment (iirc)

[woeful karma]

in the tsyon area iirc?

[vernal geyser]

With barbarian, should I just sorta go for 100k kills in W1 asap?

[steel nymph]

No need for the iirc

[steel nymph]

Wut dmg is u on

[vernal geyser]

I have the death note and also unlocked W4 just recently

[woeful karma]

i could have been wrong

until i went ot go check

[steel nymph]

Maybe like spores and frogs only

[vernal geyser]

I’m not 100% sure, my archer has like 2 or 3million, but my barbarian is a lot weaker, so maybe 800k? Idk

I’ll go check

[steel nymph]

Ye millions should be enough

But if it's not then u can always try

[vernal geyser]

1.2 million damage yeah

Is it fine that I use candy?

[steel nymph]

Why not

I barely have any chance to use candies now that I'm mid game

Enjoy it while u can

[karmic marsh]

does the cooking speed from star signs stack?

[woeful karma]

rare item horder tendencies

[steel nymph]

Wdym stack

[karmic marsh]

what is cooking cooking speed?

I mean like 10x characters cooking speed = 1.15^10 speed?

[steel nymph]

Nah

[steel nymph]

Just get infinite star signs then ur questions are answered

[sleek pollen]

I think you only get the bonus when you're active? might be wrong, don't take my words for it (I also never used it)

[steel nymph]

I think the same too

I compared my cooking speed when i had chips on my db

Then swapped characters and the coking speed went down

[gritty elm]

Best way to get distilled water?

[steel nymph]

Buy em

[sleek pollen]

kill w3 mobs, buy it daily from alchemy shop

[steel nymph]

I think u can farm em

[sleek pollen]

yee rare drop of all w3 mobs

[warm grove]

why are world 2 medalions like 7x more rare than the W1 ones? this is brutal. Can't imagine how bad the drop rates for them in W3 and W4 are

[sleek pollen]

🤷‍♂️ thats how it is, just gotta pump more dr upgrade and/or get all dr outside of tempest

[warm grove]

eh that might take a while, i'll just try and get 20 abominations for now and then i'll stop with WW for a bit

[narrow timber]

Would someone be able to explain to me ; or show me a guide explaining, the difference between Kill per kill, and Multi-Kill?

[warm grove]

very simply, kill per kill nets no more resources, where multikill does

[steel nymph]

More kills per kill i guess

[stone dawn]

Is there any way to filter out the birthday cards?

[steel nymph]

Nah

Just live with it

[warm grove]

kill per kill works like the nobi god effect, double kills but no extra drops

[narrow timber]

perfect i thought it was along those lines, i appreciate it

[steel nymph]

Honestly it's kinda self explanatory

[stone dawn]

Damn, they're so annoying

[steel nymph]

No offense just sayin

[steel nymph]

Happens to all of us

When u level skills up every day u just get used to them always dropping

[warm grove]

just keep them for later, never know when you'll want to open thousands of cards for no reason

[full beacon]

any doing hh?

[warm grove]

isn't HH in 7 hours?

[full beacon]

are they staggered? mine is up lol

[narrow timber]

i think its happy hour rn

[sleek pollen]

gstack

[warm grove]

hmm, I just looked at IT and it said in 7 hours, can't check rn since killing an abomination anyways

[steel nymph]

Yea nah

[sleek pollen]

yuh uh

[warm grove]

just level up 10 million times

[thorny zinc]

[warm grove]

oh yeah I did that one last night, on the next one now

[indigo stratus]

Don't bother with abos early, unless it's your highest, or one of highest dust farms

[warm grove]

I don't really know what my best dust farms are, kind of just been going around doing whatever

[thorny zinc]

same

i dont really care on rushing or smth

[full beacon]

dust farms sounds like some great depression shit

[indigo stratus]

Better dust = more upgrades = higher dmg and dust

[warm grove]

yeah that's true, my dmg gains are slowing down a lot though

just not sure what to spend my moon dust on

[indigo stratus]

And for w3 all of em are weak to grass, no grass bow. Need the rings

[warm grove]

yeah I was wondering if I missed a grass bow

[indigo stratus]

Afaik, grass bow doesn't exist. Not thru w4, at least.

[warm grove]

dang that sucks

[indigo stratus]

Grass Rings + dust bow is best for those bosses

[warm grove]

you know if there is something that increases stone success chance later?

[indigo stratus]

Nah, just makes it that 50% chance your fail doesn't count as upgrade slot

[warm grove]

well that's not bad at all

[silver nymph]

It's like 80 bazillion dust

[indigo stratus]

Not bad, but not great. Rates are still terrible

[silver nymph]

I got 3 rolls on my dust bow and I'm just giving up

4 isn't happening

[warm grove]

3 is great ngl

[silver nymph]

Yeah I was very happy

[warm grove]

my current bow has great dps, just not amazing extra dust

[silver nymph]

Yeah yours has better power than my 3 roll lol

[thorny zinc]

this is mine

[warm grove]

dang that's some good dust

[indigo stratus]

Man, how are you all getting high dr bows? Even with the scaling based on hp boost I'm getting 30s base

[warm grove]

dust %?

[indigo stratus]

Nah, been farming wind for w4 bosses, but usually get around 30-35 base power

[silver nymph]

I just overnighted poops and used 1 on all of them

[robust marsh]

Any tips for this?

[warm grove]

mine average 35-45

[true hamlet]

Candy

[full beacon]

overnight the red or yellow ore

[indigo stratus]

Yes, get lucky lad on beginner.

[full beacon]

or candy

[robust marsh]

Where should I candy?

[warm grove]

best ore that you can gurantee mine

[indigo stratus]

Jk, GS ore has highest drop rate for skilling

[robust marsh]

Ok thanks

[true hamlet]

Or just boss farm

There's so many things you do on vman that gives a high chance of getting it

[warm grove]

yeah I got like 2 the other day when card farming ores in 1 claim

[silver nymph]

Does that dream count retroactively

[woeful karma]

godshard mining with time candy apparently is pretty decent or somethig idk

[woeful karma]

yes it does i am proof

got one on my jman a while back
and again on Mman

[warm grove]

Zui do you feel left out now that WW is out? or you just doing your own thing as usual?

[woeful karma]

eh
about as left out as i felt when DB came out

i get to look at the compas thingy in IT
and feel like thankfully
i am not msising out toooo much

[thorny zinc]

new stamp

[woeful karma]

congtrars

[warm grove]

yeah that stamp is amazing

[indigo stratus]

At least with the new gem contest I might finally get lucky and have one of the winners gift doot

[warm grove]

so real

[thorny zinc]

crazy

[woeful karma]

more lk stat?

oh damn

da tnice

[warm grove]

that's like 0.003 dr right there

[woeful karma]

0.004 with duck :D

[indigo stratus]

Probably less, depending on your total luck

[true hamlet]

Feels worse to have ww and db unlocked but no time to play

[warm grove]

ngl im only doing it for the contest, otherwise i'd focus other things

[true hamlet]

Ahh, good luck then, I've got no time to play activeon

[warm grove]

it's nice an all but it sucks knowing that there's gonna be like 10 ways to make it easier later like with db bone gain

[thorny zinc]

i need to laddle AGAIN

[woeful karma]

fair lol

[indigo stratus]

I probably should too, get those meals to 100

[true hamlet]

Where the burger

[thorny zinc]

i havent completed the last spice fight yet

[warm grove]

haven't gotten past the lock eh?

[thorny zinc]

i did

[true hamlet]

He has

[warm grove]

huh

[true hamlet]

Probably lazy to fight

[thorny zinc]

and i was told i should unlock peapod first

but yeah im mainly lazy to do it

[warm grove]

you telling me you got to the point where you can fight the last spice without having peapod unlocked yet???

[true hamlet]

My windwalker still in w2 hehe

[thorny zinc]

yes

[warm grove]

bro do your breeding

[indigo stratus]

Oh man, i really need to do cooking... got many that are 0s or under 1m without ladle

[thorny zinc]

i hate breeding

[warm grove]

no excuse especially since WW makes breeding way easier

[fresh parrot]

I haven't even begun the w6 grind and I'm almost unlocking peapod

[true hamlet]

But at least ww is less autoloot dependent that breeding early on

[torn tree]

for what u need peepod ?

[true hamlet]

Peapod fires a lot of projectiles, so cursory and flashy go brr

[torn tree]

y but for wat purpose cuz territory battle are ez

[woeful karma]

my WW is still an embryo

[warm grove]

double peapod almost crashed my game within 10 seconds

[thorny zinc]

its not that bad

[warm grove]

bro that is cheeks

[woeful karma]

dw tho
it jsut means when it is born it will be strong and tough

[true hamlet]

No crescent spud shiny? Feels bad

[red compass]

u can do the safe strat to win

u dont need peapod for spices

[indigo stratus]

No 1 in 1 shiny rate for every breeding?

[torn tree]

y peapod useles for spice

[warm grove]

it's not useless, just not necessary

[torn tree]

y true

[warm grove]

what

[torn tree]

only thing i need peapod for rn is equinox wave 115 xd

[red compass]

and, if u do all spices, u can reduce all ladling to 1 go lol

instead of having to redo it

[torn tree]

idk wat is effect of peopod for foraging

[red compass]

he isnt for foraging

[warm grove]

you have to redo it many times anyways though

[thorny zinc]

so whats the team for last spice ?

[true hamlet]

Same as lullaby

[red compass]

rattler mono looter refill shiled refill

[thorny zinc]

okay

[thorny zinc]

isnt lullaby last?

[indigo stratus]

Ye, that's what I used. Think there was an updated one, but I can't recall

[warm grove]

ahh now it makes sense

[red compass]

that team got me all spices with ease, just slow af

[warm grove]

I figured there was no way you got the last one, turns out you were still on lullaby

[true hamlet]

Dharma mesa

[thorny zinc]

oh

ok i will try to do it then

[spiral mango]

who should i push w5 with

[torn tree]

u get marshmallow with lullaby

[indigo stratus]

Dk or es

[spiral mango]

my dk is already like level 190 sos hould i do him

[indigo stratus]

Marshmallow isn't that great til you get farming levels up

[red compass]

gj for ribbon on yumi

[indigo stratus]

If you active, yes. If afk, bb is decent

[thorny zinc]

i have the same ribbon too

[spiral mango]

i mean my bb is so far behind in levels and talents already so should i just continue with dk? (afk)

[torn tree]

i should use some low tier ribbons on efficiency meal

[warm grove]

what lvl is that ribbon?

[thorny zinc]

so like this?

[torn tree]

y

[warm grove]

looks right to me

[red compass]

full auto

[indigo stratus]

You could, or leave the game open overnight. With no autoloot just filter drops

[thorny zinc]

okay thx

[torn tree]

no full auto

time ur first shield

and full auto

[thorny zinc]

it worked with auto if not i will redo it

nvm

[torn tree]

need some retry if u have bad rng

[red compass]

it works w full auto, u j needa reset

[thorny zinc]

i will just wait

[indigo stratus]

It depends on your skill recharges for full auto

[torn tree]

y but better to time first shield so u dont get insta kill and have a little more chance

[warm grove]

man I am millimeters away from gambit double atom clicks, and then a few feet away from reaching Solid W7 prep

[indigo stratus]

Atom double fairly easy, just push your study or measure

[warm grove]

I know, I am rn, just very close atm

[torn tree]

sovereign soon poggers

[spiral mango]

so much work

[torn tree]

only true use of ww, ty

[spiral mango]

also should i put all my characters in divinity

[red compass]

sov goated

[spiral mango]

like it was for lab in w4

[red compass]

i cant wait until im done w my sov grind

[warm grove]

almost done with all my sovs, i'll be free soon

[red compass]

how many u got left

im at 7 remaining

[warm grove]

3, 2 decent 1 giants eye

[torn tree]

gonna pop all this on fury

after getting tusk ofc

[warm grove]

oml i'm a bozo, I could be done with sailing by now

[red compass]

id get early 5 islands ones instead, then go beanstalk ghampsters

[indigo stratus]

Yes

[red compass]

so u can full claim fury

[torn tree]

keep these bottle for w7 and t6+ artifact xd

[warm grove]

nah my storage is suffering

by that time my sailing multi will be plenty

[thorny zinc]

its working

i need to wait 10 years but its working

[red compass]

yep

[thorny zinc]

do i do the same for next one?

[indigo stratus]

Yep

[warm grove]

next one does take quite a while

[thorny zinc]

dw we have time its called idleon for a reason

[warm grove]

better have this max by then

[thorny zinc]

lmao

[warm grove]

you need that 1 lvl

[thorny zinc]

yeah i will do it after the fight

[torn tree]

forget vault exist xd

[warm grove]

only 4 more not max

[full beacon]

first archer killroy with 100% uwu

[warm grove]

100%?

[full beacon]

uptime

[warm grove]

oh yeah, archers are viable for killroy now

[thorny zinc]

so now bm is the best for killroy?

[warm grove]

actually I didn't think of this until now, but couldn't you use the tempest gear outside of tempest to have massive attack speed?

[full beacon]

yea I got 1k kills and I only have +5 seconds

[thorny zinc]

damn

[warm grove]

BM was already good for killroy before, but is now the undisputed best archer

[torn tree]

ty to remind me xd

[full beacon]

is nacho really better than piercing arrow

piercing arrow feels like a carry to me

[indigo stratus]

Tbh, WW was better than bubo this week

Respawn go brrrr

[thorny zinc]

good part is i did it, the bad part is i dont have the last spice fight

[warm grove]

yeah that's because it's very hard to get to when you are new

I mean even when you aren't it takes time

[thorny zinc]

time to push to samurais

[indigo stratus]

Andddd you might lack dmg

[full beacon]

bro what's going on with your pet power

[thorny zinc]

i have 1m+ kills per hour

[full beacon]

I don't have the one after spirit

[warm grove]

his pet power is MASSIVE wdym?

[indigo stratus]

No, dmg to collect spices

[thorny zinc]

oh mb

[indigo stratus]

One day I'll fix this, maybe...

[warm grove]

yeah breeding takes forever to lvl up

lol, peak setup

I haven't fixed all of mine yet either

[full beacon]

I just need the bopbox I think

for the dank loadout

[indigo stratus]

Not fixing anytime soon with breedability on ww

Though I'm at 69% crit chance rn, probably don't need it

[warm grove]

I mean it's a nice talent but overall I feel it's a bit underpowered since it's useless over 100% crit i'd imagine

[thorny zinc]

[indigo stratus]

Indeed, useful early game... but not really bc the scaling is terrible

And like you said, after 100% crit, what's the purpose?

[warm grove]

you don't have zerg?

[thorny zinc]

nope

[warm grove]

go get goblin gorefest to 121, I don't think it's that hard

[thorny zinc]

idk why but im still losing

maybe should i try from wave 1?

not using save

[warm grove]

when was the last time you saved in it? the retroactive buffs you get aren't applied to your points

[thorny zinc]

i feel like i should be able to do it

[warm grove]

just spam 6 kraken and it's easy with a few party starters if you take it slow

[thorny zinc]

yeah i will start from 0

damn i have so much to fix

[warm grove]

said almost every rusher ever

[thorny zinc]

fair point

[indigo stratus]

I have much to fix and I've been playing years

[warm grove]

yeah i got a few things on my list of TODO

[toxic tide]

Whats a green stack

[torn tree]

it's when u have 10m of a item

[indigo stratus]

10m of one item

[thorny zinc]

10m stack

[toxic tide]

Somehow i once got that in the playbutton item and sold it TwT

[bold sundial]

Is there a difference in efficiency between auto refine 10% and 90%?

[toxic tide]

I may be stupid

[thorny zinc]

yes

[toxic tide]

What does that do? I cant tell

[bold sundial]

What's more efficient?

[toxic tide]

How do you increase the rank?

[thorny zinc]

by not autorefining

[indigo stratus]

90% allows you to stack more if you wanna refine later.

[toxic tide]

Im on world 4 and ive just been doing crap without any idea of what I'm doing

[thorny zinc]

classic

a lot of ppl do that

[toxic tide]

Took me until world 4 to even start using the refiner

[warm grove]

yeah it took me until W3 to start using it

[toxic tide]

Also why is leveling up on fishing so easy

The "equinox" i think it's spelled

[indigo stratus]

You think fishing is easy? Try mining or chopping

[toxic tide]

The fish you can just catch a fish reset animation repeat, i went from lvl 10 to 45 in like 5 minutes

[warm grove]

yeah while you're at it, do some catching... like a lot of it because it takes forever

[indigo stratus]

Equinox is huge exp for where it's at

[toxic tide]

Btw

What level of mining should i reach for the silver ore in the 4th area

[warm grove]

what???

[toxic tide]

Void ore

[warm grove]

mining level has very little impact on mining efficiency

[toxic tide]

Then how tf do i get good enough to mine it

[warm grove]

the thing it's good at is enabling you to make better pickaxes

[warm grove]

play the game more

[toxic tide]

Dude ive been doing random crap and its working less and less

[warm grove]

what world are you in?

[toxic tide]

4

[warm grove]

how long did it take you to get there?

[toxic tide]

Once i used the upgrade vault about like 2 days of farming enemies to open portals

[warm grove]

no like total playtime

since you started

[toxic tide]

How do i check that

[warm grove]

you don't know how long ago you started?

[toxic tide]

At one point i had a charecter afk for a year

[odd harbor]

How does breedability work

[warm grove]

not really an exact measurement im looking for, but if you've been playing for less than like a month semi-active then it makes sense you aren't able to mine void yet

[toxic tide]

I went from playing and not playing for a long time until the last few months where I've actually been playing it

[toxic tide]

Ive had the game for a few years

[warm grove]

it's like splicing in where next pet chance increases over time

[toxic tide]

Prob like 3

[warm grove]

yeah but how much have you been like "actively" playing for? like consistent logging in kind of

[toxic tide]

Idk man

[warm grove]

you log in every day and do stuff or just claim afk gains and wait?

[toxic tide]

My main charecter is lvl 171

[toxic tide]

I used to do the afk but now I'm logging in every day

[warm grove]

alright I think I got sidetracked in trying to prove a point but basically you just gotta stay on main progression to keep stacking up account buffs

if you want I could tell you a few things to focus on that will help you

[toxic tide]

Please do

[warm grove]

alright so there's basically 2 ways to do early game idleon (pre W6), rush or steady

[exotic swallow]

me when my shit in ww started to cost 100m'

need to get to w5 real quick

[warm grove]

rushing is the most effective at unlocking new buffs and becoming stronger faster, but you have to go back and catch up on mechanics and may bet overwhelmed

[toxic tide]

I have two of these whit triangles and three time glasses

[toxic tide]

What

[warm grove]

mine don't show that huh

[toxic tide]

I use a seperate server pfp cause i dont know whats acceptable anymore

[exotic swallow]

hard life of a furry

[warm grove]

lol, anyways I suggest rushing which is pushing worlds quickly to unlock new features

the skilling efficiency comes later on since you don't need it all that badly in early game if you focus other things

also explosive what is that name

[toxic tide]

Should i unlock sigils

[indigo stratus]

No

[warm grove]

no not really, waste of time until WAY later on

[toxic tide]

Ok

[red compass]

😩

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246596618321526837/1349133878140469359/attachment.gif

[toxic tide]

Im saving this

Btw why are vials so expensive, these things cost over 5mil now

[red compass]

they get to 1 bil lol

[warm grove]

they get much more expensive

[toxic tide]

Bruh

[true hamlet]

Then you aren't ready for the next level of vials, simple as that

[frail spade]

We're in business, traded all 3 exclusive pets and a golem and got my doot, huzzah

[warm grove]

yeah only buy them when they are somewhat easy

[boreal olive]

this should be enough to win if i keep trying right

[exotic swallow]

1 samurai would've been enough

[toxic tide]

I got the golem

[frail spade]

Now I'm never going back to doggo world in fear of recycling it by accident

[warm grove]

you should be set with that setup

[frail spade]

Sadly I didn't have any

traded my first samurai for a molti without knowing their value

😌

[toxic tide]

So how hard is it to hot jackpot in arcade

[indigo stratus]

You got scammed, bro...

[toxic tide]

Cause uh

[exotic swallow]

monument grind

[frail spade]

Maybe T-T

[warm grove]

it's very rare

[indigo stratus]

One exclusive for doot is good enough

[red compass]

for doot its lowkey worth, which 3 pets tho?

[toxic tide]

Neat

[frail spade]

malley, axolotl, red bird, and gollem

[red compass]

golem and jocund for doot seems fair imo

holy fuck

[exotic swallow]

fr bro gave 3 exclusives when their value gonna go higher after event in a day

[red compass]

nah u got hard robbed there man

[warm grove]

what

[toxic tide]

I have 3 excluses, two dupes

[brisk mauve]

That was expensive trade

[frail spade]

not like lava will introduce more pets

[warm grove]

yeah my guy got scammed

[toxic tide]

Well i guess it would be one dupe

[indigo stratus]

Could have just given them to me, and get good karma

[frail spade]

😌

[warm grove]

yeah sure

[brisk mauve]

Is there any axo that I could take from you?

[frail spade]

maybe I should've brought him down

[exotic swallow]

oh he will

[frail spade]

Should I be regretting myself

[red compass]

u cant go back so its whatever, move on

[toxic tide]

Which is that

[warm grove]

only a bit since you got doot, but know you are a fool

[frail spade]

Yall talking like I made the worst decision of my life

[red compass]

losing ur time n mental over whats already done is whatever

[toxic tide]

Oh nah i dont got the axolotl

[brisk mauve]

The blue fish exclusive one

[red compass]

just know, next time, ask ppl

[toxic tide]

Two birds and a duck

[frail spade]

:(

[warm grove]

nah you ain't but if you were patient you would've had more in the future

[indigo stratus]

It's video game... next time, ask.

[frail spade]

But hey, now I can close this game knowing I finished it

[exotic swallow]

yeah, you did

[frail spade]

💀

[exotic swallow]

u didnt finish it

[brisk mauve]

The grind never stops

[frail spade]

For sure I did

[indigo stratus]

Two type of people, I suppose

[exotic swallow]

whats ur farming, sneaking

whats ur ww/db progression

[frail spade]

I think they're both level like 5

[warm grove]

you click 1 million cogs yet?

[exotic swallow]

whats ur alchemy, whats ur hole

[frail spade]

Alchemy has 2-3 bubbles and 5 vials

[exotic swallow]

see u aint close to finishing

[woeful karma]

Where the fuck do these keep coming frommmm
im not even fishinggggg

[red compass]

filter page

[frail spade]

!doot

What's the doot command to tell me how good I am now

[red compass]

i mean theres this i guess?

[warm grove]

crystal crabal probably

[frail spade]

yes yes

[woeful karma]

oh?
yeah my Mman is active farming dice obols

that muight do it
thought it wasfishing only

[warm grove]

middle right rare bag

gotta filter him outta there

[woeful karma]

thanks mate

[frail spade]

So what now, do my characters leave the divinity thing and go back to being lab boys

[warm grove]

no you have doot you can ignore both

[indigo stratus]

You've got doot, don't need to do anything now

[red compass]

yea u ignore it all until u get the 3 lab gems for 700 lab lvls

[indigo stratus]

He will level all characters by himself

[frail spade]

wdym

[frail spade]

what?

[red compass]

jade emporium thing

[warm grove]

later you will know

[frail spade]

So I can progress through the world on my characters now?

Get them all to w6 like my main?

[indigo stratus]

You can do whatever you want

[red compass]

theyre alr at w6, the maps i guess u can open them

[frail spade]

yes yes

[red compass]

but u needa work on all ur prev skills n whatnot

[frail spade]

You mean mining?

[red compass]

no i mean all

u need to catch up to the w6 skill "standards"

[frail spade]

And what are those

[warm grove]

every skill you unlocked in every world

[red compass]

well get all skills very deep pushed. like all prints needa push mils

i mean theres so much to say lol

[frail spade]

sorry T-T

[red compass]

actually idk how far u are in the game

[exotic swallow]

you are forgiven

[warm grove]

my guy is sorry for asking questions in the chat where you ask questions

[red compass]

but it seems ur earlyish so ull b farming those skills for a while

[exotic swallow]

thats what u are supposed to do

[toxic tide]

Does the auto refine at percent make it rank up

[red compass]

no needa b sorry, its j answering this would need essays lol

[frail spade]

my proud main 😌

[red compass]

needa manually rank it up

[toxic tide]

How

[red compass]

if u auto, itll never rank up

0%

u wait until its maxed out

[toxic tide]

Oh

[red compass]

ye this is w6 yea?

[frail spade]

Yes w6

[indigo stratus]

You might he forgiven, but who was the dude the scammed you out of 3 exclusive

[red compass]

ok lemme show u my w6, and this isnt even well into w6 btw

[warm grove]

ready the pinchy react fellas

[frail spade]

I mean you can follow the discussion in trade discussion. But I did the trade and accepted he did nothing wrong T-T

[red compass]

my main skillers are in the 100 lvl ish range

[frail spade]

Oy T-T lotsa stuff to level up

[red compass]

yep

[frail spade]

that on every character?

[red compass]

its a heavy roll back

[indigo stratus]

Nah, he did you dirty.

[red compass]

ye its all on chars, if shared skill

all 50 on like chop mine etc

pearls will carry ur ass w doot lol

[red compass]

meanie

[thorny zinc]

finally

[frail spade]

:(

[frail spade]

Lucky me

[warm grove]

maybe a bit mean, but my vman on skilling preset has better stats

[red compass]

how long u been playing?

[warm grove]

a bit over a year active total, had the account for over 2 years though

[red compass]

yea im not even at 4 months lol

[full beacon]

13 cooking

[warm grove]

yeah that makes sense

[red compass]

fk my bubo finna cook

[full beacon]

balloons

[frail spade]

I've been playing for 4 years 😌

[red compass]

nah

maybe in like 2 weeks ill bother with that

[warm grove]

my damn vman keeps giving me multiple lucky lads when I claim on him, my chest is FULL

[full beacon]

where's that

[frail spade]

toolbox

[warm grove]

IT under account

[red compass]

on the account tab IT

[frail spade]

I was told vman had to be highest skilled player in skills for your characters to get a boost. What should I be doing to not surpass him then?

[full beacon]

guess I started 1 day before vday

[warm grove]

I can confidently say this that I likely have filled out the most PO orders out of everyone here

[red compass]

fuck po

[warm grove]

I don't disagree

[true hamlet]

maybe I guess

[red compass]

bother w that later on imo. ull needa crystal countdown ur way to highest lvl

[frail spade]

I don't know what crystal countdown is

[warm grove]

should I do some more? I got 6k pens already

[full beacon]

don't really need to do that much tbh, it's very easy to stay ahead

[red compass]

yea so dont bother then

[frail spade]

okay okay

[true hamlet]

now I know the cost

nice nice

[thorny zinc]

💀

[frail spade]

U ain't beating me

[warm grove]

hmm

[true hamlet]

it's exalted bonus atom

[thorny zinc]

oh

[true hamlet]

you aren't going anywhere close to 3x without it, let alone more than 3x

[thorny zinc]

still going

[thorny zinc]

makes sense

[true hamlet]

I wish the comandment reduces stop right there cooldown, I want to reach wave 1k

slowroastwiz carry

[frail spade]

So I'll just put everyone to leveling up mining until it gets to level 50, then that for every skill?

[true hamlet]

I guess I need doublers now?

[red compass]

no, do ur stuff, and ull get pearls as shit goes on, so u can spam them until u get to 50

[frail spade]

I really don't know what perls are

And I don't know what doing my stuff is T-T

[true hamlet]

dooter smh

[red compass]

this

[frail spade]

mmm

[red compass]

yea he j got it so i help him out

[red compass]

hole most likely, and do all skills on the side

[frail spade]

I guess I'll just go around and unlock every map on my chars then

[true hamlet]

ehh, doesn't 1 candy basically push you past 50 though

[frail spade]

but u said not to do skills I'm lost T-T

[red compass]

if u have the xp yeah but i doubt he does

[frail spade]

maybe a 24h one

[full beacon]

only after you've gotten to a place where being at a place where 1 candy pushes you past 50 is considered neglect xD

[true hamlet]

ah, then if you have pearls, might as well use them I guess

[red compass]

well not full on skills, i mean like gaming, sailing, breeding etc

[frail spade]

Oh gotcha thank you

[red compass]

not ressource ones type shit, farming sneaking etc too

[frail spade]

Alrighty, I like that more T-T

[true hamlet]

neglected rip

[warm grove]

that's not that bad, cogs suck to do so it makes sense

[true hamlet]

I could say that to playing without autoloot too though

[warm grove]

you still play in the beta?

[full beacon]

mine's at 3k

[true hamlet]

yep

[full beacon]

does anything scale on it later?

[true hamlet]

why would it

[full beacon]

or can you just chill for like 3 weeks after you get a bunch of at-par cogs

then redo them all at once

[true hamlet]

that's kinda what it is

[full beacon]

idk lol there's some of that kind of weird stuff in vault

powers of 10 stuff and whatnot

[warm grove]

you mean cog production rate?

[full beacon]

nah # trashed

[true hamlet]

the %xp you can hit is dependent on your highest char in construction I believe, when you level a bit, just refresh the board

[warm grove]

you gotta do that yourself

[full beacon]

oh yea was just wondering if there's any wack mechanic that powers you up based on # trashed

[true hamlet]

nah

[warm grove]

nope, only the mechanic of having better construction due to better cogs

[true hamlet]

it's just to refresh your board xp%, I mean, there's people hitting 350%+ on cogs, definitely a bit of cog board refreshing

[full beacon]

yea I'm like a week away from board unlock then I'll prob just get >50% all and chill for a bit

will be nice to not open cogs multiple times daily for a bit

[torn tree]

oh first i got

[true hamlet]

usually I don't even check cog board

[torn tree]

thinked i need mastery for this

[true hamlet]

do you?

[woeful karma]

my highest is 372 and my lowest seems to be around 24ish (or 0) and 101ish

[full beacon]

didn't you just do a refresh? what you got a 24 for

[warm grove]

what

[true hamlet]

372%

nah, I think it's level

[torn tree]

oh big

[warm grove]

how the hell do you get 372%? what's your con lvl?

[cursive galleon]

💀

[true hamlet]

lou has 350%s, and that's 2.5k construction levels. I think zui meant highest level const

[warm grove]

oh yeah makes sense

[full beacon]

purple flags

[cursive galleon]

[warm grove]

yeah because my highest rn is 160% and that's damn good

[full beacon]

are you intentionally grinding exp on non dks? why they all on there

[cursive galleon]

for build speed right now, trying to hit 1000 construction lvls

[full beacon]

icic

[cursive galleon]

desperate to put my talents above 300

my max is 240 right now i think?

[warm grove]

that's not what either of those mean

[true hamlet]

what's construction going to do for it

[full beacon]

🤣

[warm grove]

1000 construction thing you are talking about is based on lvl of buildings

and it does NOT increase talent lvls

[cursive galleon]

oh wait am i dumb?

[true hamlet]

maybe

[warm grove]

[true hamlet]

what we're you looking at?

[cursive galleon]

one sec let me have a look a the thing again

[true hamlet]

reading

[full beacon]

[warm grove]

see that second word?

[true hamlet]

yeah +100 building max

[cursive galleon]

ah

[warm grove]

LIBRARY LEVEL

[cursive galleon]

aha. ahahahahaha

[true hamlet]

hey, checkout speed pretty good though

[cursive galleon]

WOOOOOO im going to lose my shite

[full beacon]

how long have you been grinding that 🤣

[cursive galleon]

yeahhh sadly right now i get like 500k froges per claim? and im using up nearly 300k per level

ehhh like a week ever since shrine week came out

[true hamlet]

what's your call me ash at

[cursive galleon]

dont ask me that, i still havent gotten around to put my vman to sample that on speed run cus ive been doing all the previous vials 😭

[full beacon]

bubble

[true hamlet]

mine's pretty low but I feel like I'm still getting a good number of critters

[true hamlet]

it's logs

[cursive galleon]

ahem

[full beacon]

you're missing a lot of other sources then

[long epoch]

Is 120 ladels good

[full beacon]

I have like lvl 130 call me ash and I'm pretty sure my froge claim is multi million

[true hamlet]

good for a start

[cursive galleon]

hmmm let me get on ww and check my drops right now

that is a big ouch

[true hamlet]

wrong trap

try cardboard if you don't have royal

[true hamlet]

wooden I mean

[cursive galleon]

yeah chat im cooked

[true hamlet]

[warm grove]

yeah that's cheeks

[cursive galleon]

im probs missing few things ill have a look at some guides

[full beacon]

hold on lemme check mine

[warm grove]

eh it's a few

could be better ngl

I be neglecting trapping

[long epoch]

Oh jesus... reading this chat i checked what nature traps actually do cuz I never actually checked....

Im getting so little Critters now I know why 😅