#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
1 messages ยท Page 504 of 1
Average 15ร dr for good statue drop
no the one u need is crystal
But it's low
Get ur crystal spawn chance highest as possible
yes..... i just use candy 7 day but just got 1000

Active
should i use candies for clogs or active es?
up to you
Candies
ok thx
gains
Today I grinded for more elite classes.
Protein
my goal is 30/day
More protein
get all at once
Why?!
studied
Sup DarkRed 
@exotic swallow u said it will take weeks to onyx, here is 1 day gains
I see another rbx player
said that prior mallay update right
nah
do pet stats stack?
are you sure
wdym
no
Wish they do
i wish they did not
then no answer, case closed
is it possible to get other pet egg than normal? if so, how?
endgamers will hoard 60 ducks
so if i had 2 ancient golem it would be 20x damage and not 10x
i am more sure its after
no
thanks
find and adopt smol one
now i am asking yall, this should increase my kph, no?
when will we get a new mythic?
its mob respawn
is it possible to get other pet egg than normal? if so, how?
As in breeding?
yup
Reach lvl 40? 60?
cant find any message
The egg rarity one ยฟ
my kph did not EVEN move
no money
if reached that level , automatic unlock?
no u need to unlock it
Upgrade it
So, no. Amplify does not increase your kills per hour. I don't even have access to that yet.
Unlocked by an upgrade in breeding @craggy jasper
vman both
oh thanks!
SB both
SB cuz of the map being flat, right?
are you really sure I was talking about onyxing and not lvling it
Got all Elite Classes
bowman
now get master class
Master class now?!
Why?!
Why SB both?
Cuz he bomber
yes
you were talking about both in different days
I said that 100% prior Mallay
i don't believe u
I believe myself
also mallay won't reduce time from weeks to 2 days
we got mallay not so long ago
Check the date
so either way ur still wrong
I don't even know how to get there!
mallay will make it about 1.15x faster or so
just go straight forward
Darkred, you are saying I am wrong with no concrete proof
thats really messed up
is this what idleon made you? More toxic? More sweaty?
i hate sb
it happened long time ago, to the point that we dont even remember, so who cares now
see u in a week to lvl that statue to 160 tho
it is that ez to get it 160?
bubo kruk set done
nah
it gets to the point that 20k statues give u a pinchy amount
its after 160?
huge gains
anything for dr
where is bow + wings+ title 
lmao
bow??????????
is bro cooked?
Imean staff
bm is so damn good on killroy bcs of this
wayy better than sb
heck i might even run bm instead of sb on flat map and see if i do noticeably better
man of natural
Did he sample?...
no I didnt sample
I also got another S Tier purchase today - Bleach Liquid Cauldron
bgsi gambling ruins you
50% Liquid Cap and Regen
and did it help u get better for now?
I hope so
I don't think so
Why not!??!
u only need that in later game when ur sample get better
bgsi is chill
My sample?
Print yes
As in, 75%, 80%, or even the max of 90%?
my aura is so big you can't see peasants
3553591881517 dmg
I wish
how many chars is this
one more question, how do i unlock world 3 breeding? sheepie still lock. do i keep on farming on sheepie? or?
9
just like everyone should do when reaching c15
get key like u did to w2
More protein
dw I am getting better exponentially
dragon statue at 100 will alr be a huge boost to dragon statue gain
Did trapping change how it worked at some point? I see a bunch of sources like !trapchart saying AFK gains don't matter at all, and other sources like the Toolbox recommending Amarok and bunny cards.
@mint rivet, just a reminder for u from my experience
what do you mean key?
gonna spend
i am abusing killroy so hard rn
gems on that
Now my first liquid's cap is 436! A lot.
gotta fix my past neglect, the 1 year i was afk I did not do killroy
keep unlock new pet in w2 till u got it
i gotta get killroy up to my account's age standard
There are locked pets
ah i see okok ..
Also it have key icon upon that
so i have to unlock previous one
u fix that but also neglect other purchases ๐
i get 2k gems weekly what are you on bout
do you use boxing gloves or normal staff when doing killroy with bubo?
and still didnt max out farming plots
does time where i leave the game on auto count for shrine time?
maxing zen cogs before that (itsmy next purchase)
gloves
good
And I have my precious 2800 gems saved since C11-C15 update 
thats more than a week of sweaty grind,
(It wasn't 2800 back then)
yu can only get that through 150 bosses a day AND this event
+other normal stuff
and event ends
after event ends, i will drop to like 1.6k
2 weeks for what
u need to buy 3 more
At the end of event, I'ma mass use gifts 
1.2k gems a week, 2.4k for 3 more, idk if its accurate
they cost a lot
1.6k - 400 (killroy)
I still remember arctis telling u to not do killroy gems
yeah arctis can keep that to himself
also if i think about it, not a 400 gem loss
I buy big black balls with skulls
gem loss is smaller and smaller on average each week
darkred burnout progression ๐
That's like a 3 Dollar lose for u
hes not gonna survive
i have been like this whole year
ADHD
i don't minmax everything so i got no burnout
what do you mean you dont minmax everything
people like hourzero quit bcs of burnout as a result of minmaxing
After much consideration, I find out that my best choice of purchase for (my current progression) in Killroy.. is arcade balls
basically squeezing a lemon for as much juice as possible is minmaxing
grr I need more cosmic balls
So getting yer moneyโs woth
a lot of time
balista is so op here, i can clear whole map with it
crow's nest ๐
I can allow myself to purchase killroy since I got every good purchase ngl
suits bm so well
i will get every purchase too unless lava ddds some endless thing in gemshop, like infinity pass in bgsi
lava aint doing that
let's hope
not for free at least
SB has a hit limit, BM can wipe the entire row
gotta wait for master class
bm masterclass better go crazy and be afk oriented

active so darkred forced to play on it for weeks
pls no
Apparently
i love the bm whales
imagine if bm's masterclass gets a mechanic like combustion
every horde killed bm spawns whales on everything
KILLROY DONE
Sperm whale
ur banned for that
That's what the whale called anyway
570 balls right there

Gamble for jackpot
I alr got 1 this event
Your bubo not ours
๐น
skill issue ngl

all of them
Where's butter?
did u get peanuts done
I'm blind
nowhere, did not get it

peanuts/ribs
10k/110k put on bstalk
i will do w1 then for hotdogs
and gnomwiches
gamba time
MID rng
i got gems worth half of my balls
not good not bad
whats left? Hampter, Butter, HP one 
oh gbread n gcake 
all questions ever about w4 finally answered iguess
Bro is on prep for moonlord
When post moonlord?
not actually playing calamity rn
hey guys am doing "let the tail hit the floor" quest from royal worm and its stuck on 1450
fire
i have been afk for 20 mins now
not playing at all
Don't collect the tail
skill issue ngl mine didnt even take 15 min
look at the floor, kill a worm where ever you see an open spot 
not how it works, you need to cover the map with the mob drop
Hey, any 4 ppl can join pizza 1 w4 town and dance, need help for the achievement
I got it ty if any1 joined
Yea, first time seeing it die
who da hell are you
There's no funny people anymore ๐
HAHHAHA

first ?
Real stuff ๐
@compact pagoda went sick then don't want to socialize
shush

When not sick?
exam
Okg
Goodluck on your exam G
Got all event exclusives before the ending of the event
Damn
I got non strawberry hat ๐
I was talking about pets
I have been not getting hats for a few days ๐
Ooo sht
Next update plis drop new pet
I need to gamble
me after see my chest always full for whole time: 

Alrh time to active bone @compact pagoda
donate
๐
I am yet to even finish the commons from legacy
rage bait 
Frog? Slime?
Oooof the same value as doot ngl
When w4 db?
I have seen more doots than slime
when not stuck
I've trade my slime for doot
๐น๐น๐น
is there a reason why bludgeon is better than chamrok for other classes besides mages. the overall damage is way better from chamrok pendant than bludgeon
What's your accuracy rn?
When w6 db? 
80 more for elimination 
Tomorrow
Huge gains
Currently I have been looking to get a samurai or slug but both are so rare to get from some giveaway
1.23k
HAHAHHA๐น
How to increase the chance of unlocking a new meal

what does greenstack means?
Better upgrade your first kitchen luck
holy
20 m bones might take a while 
autoloot 

Buy it 
giv money
should i also set up drop rate obols on my ES?
Deal
I usually swap from DK cause im lazy, but definitely worth it
Filthy casual

who doesn't
You
Wait the anniversary bag not getting applied to characters made after the bag is used is a bug not a feature?
Reenter
Map?
๐
Wdym map
L for the blu balls ,it starts to look funnier
you technically cannot die ever, if you land fishes, even if they're on mines
scary part is thats only people who've made their profiles public 
Nah, I am talking about the bag not getting applied to characters who were made after the bag was used. My question was whether it is a bug or is it intended that way
the difference between first and second place is the total of top 5 combined bro
hes a whole other level of insane
could be cheated
might be time manipulated or smth
or just marking your screen for distance/power, both possible
the most random minigame u can't get high scores for certain is mining
Is there a way to ibcrease Lab XP gained? Skill XP doesnt seem to work... AFK gains do, but im now upgrading my salt licking Skill XP. Is that a waste of effort? ๐คฃ
oh yeah maybe cause i cant even get the megaladon thing and i try a good 50 times a week
Lab? Alchemy
hoops, you don't even have to die ,just avoid danger ,fishes land fishes and you can keep livin
Pets
What alchemy? Is it bubbles? Vials?
unfortunate
lab ring + sheek scrubs shoes +multitool stamp
Ong were cooked
ok 1k might be cheated there
Impossible?
How do i get any of those ๐คฃ
can believe for 300 in good rng, but won't believe in 1k
Or doable?
maybe, youd think chopping would be higher if so
they drop from w4 monsters, just keep looking ๐
is that IE ? i should be in catching
he has several highscores though so how
i got lately 243 and 301 in catching
that it is
without cheats tho
Ahhh and here i am at W4 start just idling Lab. Ill get my one character out then!
Anyone?
might be why i don't update it and use IT now xD
idk how people minigame man 
lab rings from uhh, demon genie 4th map ,and scrubs from donuts 3rd map ? idk
what even is poing
pen pals to 125 u might get trap eff bonus xd
w5 gaming thingy from boxes
pen pal and pong are the only ones I like
pen pals is love but pong is laggyish
oh i dont even have that yet lmao
I tried pushing minis for achievements, but I dont think its gonna happen 
Awesome! Thanks ser 
i failed chopping 2 score off the achievement 
that is if u reached 200
im too old for that shit ||20||
201 my best ,but choppin actually gives DMG to your wizards ,so its ok xD
that 139 makes me so mad
it takes patience ,or good vibes ,i can't go high without this
What's the current guide on worship/TD
Need to push levels higher
it's tier to your towers and their levels ,also using beastmaster "stop right there" skill ,so you can root monsters in place helps alot
Yeah, not done any in a while, most were 20s then, now they're 40-50 range. I vaguely remember seeing some layouts somewhere when I last looked, but can't find that now
!guide has it in the td section
Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4
you don't need level voidinator mostly ,all depends on your party starter/poisonic later ๐
not the best guides, but guides for early-midgame td
Bro pr broette how, i got 190 pps on my first one on phone
and kraken, and frozone
Heya meme ,have any spare freeze balls ๐
just got 120... 19 off i hate this minigame no good vibes here
for arcade duh
haha, for some it is fr ... i hate mining one so random.
i got 8 score then never touched it again
That was it ty
i just need 141 chopping and ill never touch it either
rain of gems !
did it once and never again 
can I candy a luckier lad for equinox?
yes
yes but dont
okayyy ,genuinely getting mad for the rest of the day
just do daily bosses on vman
ah bosses ok I was doing wurms
you'll get 1/2 lucky lads
if you ever do candy for a lucky lad, do it at tropi logs btw
or gshard if you have 100% eff
tropilogs/godshard yeah
u mean chopping logs?
yeah
those specifically have higher chances of getting you lads
Is it smart farming lucky lads like that?
Lucky mf
Id like the trophy for my dk tbh
logs>mining noted
for 1 yes
no ,i was 1 away from golem .... and its my second mole xd
I want all for luckier lad lol
but DO NOT grind the 95 via that method
Okies
Dk at beans is the best for lucky lads
Tradable? ๐ ๐
what do u need 95 for?
Luckier lad
75 for lucky lad 20 for divine scarfs
75 for luckier lad, 20 for 10 divine scarfs
and still mole aint half bad
ah ~luckier~
yeah
brain afk 
sufficient ,for now
Hello, I have to prioritize, what talent for the hidden class?
OH you're missing scarf lmao
yeah I was just pressing the go again button not noticing I already got the cape
well you'll still have to forfiet and get another cape im pretty sure 
the skilling ones
...not much else to say ab it, there's only a few that directly helps skilling
do u include this in speedrun? where to check run score?
hmm no?
nvm but portal stil count
yeah you unlock the portal, nothing else tho
rank 20
copy copy
you dont go there, but unlock it 
whoops 
Rank 100 when?
time for some bone farming
thats why im asking if we need to open it
dont forget about the sewers as well 
so before I click the basketball minigame I was entering the portal then the game start then I got transported how can I go back to the basketball game?
yea just unlucky thanks for the respond
How do I get worship charges so I can activate the totem? Is this a rate/hr or does it recharge if I kill mobs?
we need world 2 & 3 kills to start sampling w1 materials? or open portals as many as u can then go back sampling materials i want?
Id spend your first one pushing portals for points, then print next time around 
per hour
u can increase charge speed of your worship through worship levels, charge rate talent on elemental sorcerer, stamps, etc
cool
progress on your refinery over time so that you can gain better worship skulls which would give you more charge rate directly
So itโs good if I level up worship letโs say to lv30 on each character?
Which bubble use this?
You should lvl worship always on all characters
For what?
Skill mastery later on
And you will get more talent points which you'll need early
Skill mastery?
Which bubble uses this again?
yup, please avoid using the siphon skill on ES unless its a necessity for extra souls right away - you want to lvl up worship on everyone
Rift w4
so voidwalker have different deathnote count?
Ohh
I havent unlocked rift
uhh yes and no? are u trying to do the 1 million kills thing?
its a good idea to start leveling these up at some point, latest would be when u unlock vman and you sample during speedruns
progressing on will be a massive bonus for you at one point!
Idk where it is
no i notice i got 1m kills also beyond world 3 , and i didnt do it from other class too
ah it could be, cant remember for sure but i think vman's deathnote resets after speedrun
zzz mimimimi
You got vman and your death note changed?
2 more ranks and it will progressively get faster 
yeah
Getting vman will reset almost all of your death note kills to 2mil?
Something like that
Not sure what to do with my magic beans 
whats the best obol to farm for fragments?
i didnt might be my pusher makes w4-w6(sprout spirit) 2mkills..
Probwply gold luck
Other then boss obals
I've gotten so many artifacts since I last resampled lol
boss obols, or w2 sandy pots for me personally
waiting for the day i get sovereign from jade :c
yeah, I just recently got it
Alr
My max book increased from 257 to 289 today
now I got to rebook every thing under the sun
Probably going to start with DK orb and disciple, then go bubo CC stuff and Vman talents, then rebook all the skilling stuff before resampling
How 
so maybe 2 weeks or so?
My max book lvl is 290
Sov fury relic + winz lantern
unlocked the lanterns today from emporium
I'm going for trib rock, socrates and opera mask now, then I'll go back to lanterns
since I'm pushing yk
I am doing the same ๐
My dr sure is going up hehe
we're up to 27x now on dk crystal
should go to 27.4x with trove sigil level 2
then maybe winz lantern in the future?
idk, we'll see
I guess next is to try unlock that stupid log vial
Missing only a few 
you missed the sigil one 
This tierlist from IEautoreview is good and i should follow it?
6 sov artifacts
I know but after long time i gave up on that one and will do it last
just tackle all for construct mastery
but it gives refinery gfood and dr lol
yeah its good but you will want to upgrade all buildings for construct mastery
just dont upgrade voidinator and atom collider for now
It only speeds up the sigil unlock speed right
I should get that 
got golden hampter to 10k 
For sovereigh artifacts
Now get 100k 
hows it work above 100%?
does nothing extra
looks nice
does this make the capacity upgrade obsolete?
no as it only does it on day reset
i just discovered that this vman is hard to level with low mobs respawn... 79k cooldowns is approximately how many days?
Only once a day
I deposited 200k feasty statues
Little under a day
most likely 20hrs?
86400 seconds is 1 day
the no autoloot statue grind continues

So more like 21.5/22houres
ty info
Yoo I just unlocked guilded stamps
I'm going w5 next, but that's for later on, I've got better things to do (not to mention higher talent levels also make it slightly easier)
perfect, now get 10k stamp level 
Which means I actually have to level up my stamps to the max 
210 crystallin stamp and matty bag stamp
Have you lvled po boxes?
my crystallin is 200, never gets hit
also no bricks ๐
you can say, my account isn't bricked
not yet,, wats better for vman first?
it's almost like you shouldn't rely on nslb till it's near hard cap
I love this ballot bonus wtf, didn't it just level up a few days ago
more like I should whale carry cap
what does this mean?
Hmm probeply most skilling po boxes
every time you claim afk time, you can exchange the kills for DNA used in breeding
when afk fighting, you can splice for genes instead
But if you already had alot off po boxes this is quite nice for a long cooldown skill
which increase next pet chances when used
convert materisl to dna sampling,, u can try it like 2mins
But i wouldnt make it a priority
u might wanna have Es too for salt mats
whats ES
Elemental Sorcerer
Elemental Sorcerer 
Bean where should i spend my beans on 
Evelotion or OG
evo
thanks
Was thing same thing just not sure
Kinda want both to get 3x and 4x 
But that will take a while 
og is only for extra crops
hey, what team could i use to get to wave 125? or is it too early still
less then 20 off
get to sir stache and youll get there easily
i think @keen parcel has a team without it that works pretty fast but i cant remember it
ah i see, rattler eggshell looter badumdum burger maybe? or ignore tank, grab refiller and hope you get it going fast enough
yeah
Now I have both lab extensions, but I can't do anything about them!
There is no Nanochip nor jewel shop
Rattler mimic refiller whale refiller or looter Rattler mimic refiller refiller
kill per kill helps vman speedrun?
Every kill multi help iirc
Oh...
break into boss castle and fight him
But they are too expensive!
ask meme_bean for 0.1% his coin
Why would I?
why not 
He doesnt need coin but materials for chips and jewels
Also the "Colosseum GDQ" quest is not possible to complete
Maybe you need more move speed?
what quest say?
The 180 second 170 seconds and 160 seconds challanger for the differnt worlds?
In clooloseum
Yes
just wipe them all in 4 moves 
Its possible but ig its for later
What world are you?
I have up to W4
DK!
time to do this 
what char should i use
Tbh I did it on es
Like the whole quest line and got the trophy too
I did easily too but I had like minimum 150,00m dmg
And you can do it even if your lower than this
i have purple dmg
i should prolly do this
Well then why didn't you do it ๐
I think after it, it'll tell you to clear the w6 one
crit
i never checked
i forgot about this
Hey, which global buffs from Class Talents stack? I guess stuff like +%xp in skll xzy does and DKs bonus to printeroutput doesnt but i cant find confirmation on the wiki.
200+
supercrit
wha-
Valid reason
But yeah do it on es
Es would nuke the whole area
Can you explain it more clearly what you mean
What does this do?
You mean like es bonuses that increase for wormhole kills wormhole and dks orb kills?
He is talking about the class levels bonus
Do two seperate Instances of DKs "King of the Remembered" or "1000 Hours Played" Talents stack
Nithing for now placeholder basicly till w7
like does having two characters leveling the skill up stack or does only the highest talent level count
Same could be said for Divinity skills of Elemental Sorcerer
like in general do skills like these stack
thanks, so i only need to use the library on those skills once
Are there any lists on how the build rate in construction scales?
No but it basicly all comes from dk
Higher construction lvl is just more buildrate
who vote for w7 underwater
Didnt vote 
Time to active this for once ๐ง
afk that
water 
masterclass pleese
His attack got piercing please 
did someone say pierce 
๐

im gonna do that to u
u did this upon yourself
Better kill/h than afk
just active

no excuses
Do your Statue
low battery
does anyone have tips on greenstacking items? im on my first equinox upgrade
No excuses
Printing
Print?
Bro(
i argue
Noob
aight thanks
4 hours i believe
nah thats 4%
4 hours
๐น
%
Bro is using ios
funny
You
no
๐น
not now
Coems ๐ค
What does cooking efficiency do? More ladles?

do i put my bloodberserker on cooking or fishing 
Hello when will be the best time to greenstack this? What multikill tier?
wait as long as possible, it'll only get faster
Fishing cause we only put bloodberserker on cooking when it gets like 1000-10000+ ladles a day
Sad thing is i accidentally return the quest to that tissue npc ๐ญ
U have 10 chars
Ill do it to the next ES then to be more efficient ๐ญ
DK turned in?
Not yet only ES and bubo
Ok them farm with dk
All aside instablab is practically free with dk
I see,, so its considered rare not normal?
What
Nevermind
What can I do to fix Hoggindanz questline? I'm stuck at the second quest where I'm buying a trap but it doesn't count.
Buy from actual shop not quick ref

Prayer
Prayer?
W3 chat is just stupid lmao
Which one
Wikiable question
ok sorry
?wiki Prayers
Unlock new prayers by reaching specific wave progression in the Worship Tower Defense. Prayers give both a Boost (like +% exp) and a Curse (like +% monster HP) at the same time. The number of Prayers you can equip at once is based on the level of your BEST wizard!
NOTE: As of v1.50, Prayers received a level cap and their costs were adjusted to r...
@deep arrow
sorry bro
John have you unequipped royal sampler yet
no
I just didn't know
Yeah it's ok the server exists for a reason
I haven't resampled in over 10 months
Don't worry, dudes being an ass for no reason
Thats how i usally am 
its ok never resample
so you have an excuse to not change
Resampling is hard work
Doubled without min maxing
If it is more then 10x if you resample it is been to long
And i haven't like did the things
Chips cards gear talents starsigns and such?
Ye
I am buying the trap from the actual store but it still doesn't count.
Just switched a preset
I know I can over 1000x my last sample
DM me
Probeply should resample some time soon
Half of my samples were before hole i think
Mine isnt but also might be like that
Since i resampled only 4 chars and neglect the reset
So real i only did 5
My BM samples are in the 100ks
when I resample I do everything so all of mine are 
Ill tell you 1 better
Ok


What is bm gonna sample a big amount off?
ref mats only ๐
Ref mats so I don't have to fuck around worrying about that
Is this with out the hole 300% multi bonus?
Plan to do that wih my vman some day
Ok
Fear Bm wont produce eneugh an houre for my refinery
OMEGA L BM
Die
this is what it looks like 10 months later 
I have 1/296 of your mining eff
You got QQ effiency?
Oh I haven't maxed my talents
I was on wrong talent page and had no prayers equipt 
Oh
How is your eff now
Maybe my Fractal megafeather target is 10 today? Or is it unreachable? (I just started at 3)
Ok
How much you have
I have what? Fractal? 3
How high is your bravery bonus? 
For mining effienxy
How much damage should I have going into w3?
What can I do if I'm stuck on the second Hoggindaz quest? The part where I'm supposed to buy a trap from the shop is still 0/1. I don't know if the problem is related to the fact that I've already completed the first quest from Lord of the Hunt. Please help!
10/15k feels as a normale ampunt
click on this guy
Oh ok, I thought I had too little, I have about 80K right now
heres the trap
I did already try to buy the trap from the shop but it doesn't count towards the quest
multiple times in fact
I am used to old numbers these days it is easy to get 10x off 10/15k
But 10/15k is already eneugh when you just enter w3
Hey guys, I just unlocked siege breaker and I saw that it can give me a multiplier bonus on my drop rate with plunderous mobs, is there any strategy to reach a good threshold quickly ?
No it is just slow
Vman does help make plunderous mobs a bit better if you have vman
Vman seems quite far away isn't it ?
What do you think I should focus on, Stats for my characters or upgrades in stuff like the 3D printer and contruction table?
Anyone know why idleon is broken on my iPad it doesnโt load the characters
Probeply
Not familiar with ipad idleon play 
Well that construction table will just work even if your not there
You just need to turn the build of buildings on and click new ones when finished
do u have an image of the quest progress? (in dms since u can't post images yet)
Have had my phone not load idleon a few times and after restarting it worked again
fair enough, I guess just grinding out items for the upgrades in the 3D printer is a good idea and also looking into ways to get better samples
Really depents on your play style,
Just know the refinery is important many get salt locked
What you produce in refinery
Try to manage them well and make sure you make more then you use each refinery cycle
Ah ok, I have just been using the 3D printer for now so later when I upgrade both it becomes self sufficient
Refinery and 3d printer are 2 differnt things
I hope you have been going for ranks on the refinery
If you make sure underlined is higher then circle you be fine 
Yes i am still out off sand
How do I get Nuget Cake and Glass Shard easier?
IDK.
use es
active ES or afk with barb
i should link to omniphau if i want to push breeding right
what rrank nullo do i need to not be salt locked
im out of my salt deficit but im still pushing ranks for nullo
I want to get more combust salt an houre before i want to rank up blue 
Also this way i can stack up combust salt to lvl refinery in salt lick the last 5 lvls 
Also went from 33 seconds to 29 seconds a cycle 
Sal lock is just when a cycle doesnt produce more salt hen the next salt need per cycle
as far as i know
which leads to you not having excess salts and not being able to craft things e.g.
Did I break it?
At 10.5k, I can get some more but for the most part Iโll need gilded for any more levels
oh then im out of my salt lock woo
you can also split the stack if u wanna keep the souls too
people do multiple stacks of godshard for this
im still going to try rank up my nullo to 5 or 6 before i stop pushing ranks
Do I have to unlock the ability to get multikill tiers on bosses, the deathnote page is currently empty
the nullo salts for troll gear is crazy
right? this is so painful
currently maxing all my shrines :/
i left the game for a year, so when i got the cloud it was already 139/140 lmao
i didnt level up my shrines at all
Iโm working on 200 gstacks 
i havent touched my gstacks yet, only things ive gstacked are the things ive 3d printed for alchemy
so im only at like 40 rn
ooh my cook spd shows an e now
do elemental sorcerer's portal mobs count for death note?
think
blobs
then you've got shit to do, no?
waiting on scorpies
if you mean like a generalized list
all i need is some shiny scorpies, which i dont think ill need all these traps for
you'll want a trickle of shit you use. for like refinery and crafting
trapping snapshots. place critter traps on BM, nature traps with max EXP on vman. max critter for exp at least 1 per character to boost them up
once you get blobs it might be 2 traps per character. BM and vman might get more exp traps to push them ahead
the rest of the slots are trickle and your current targets
no only BM matters, you should collect on him
cuz he has shiny talents
vacuum uses your bm
oh fr?
so waste of a prayer slot
It doesn't?
doesn't it? it hits collect all, which uses the BM talent
But shiny is only calulated when the trap is collected
i would hope you wouldn't need to daily log in on your BM to properly get shiny chance application
You do
what does it mean by triggers again every 10 trapping levels
Just make it a habit I guess?