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is it even worth letting bubo just go ham for hours to do multiple cc per day? or just do the 1 and call it
it is always worth to do Bubo
felt like maybe -1k seconds every minute or something
Look around they are all watching
wasn't paying attention too much
early on it isnt
for now yes, but for me rn i get 600k seconds per cc, and i get a cc every 10 or so mins
It is always worth to do the minimum of 1 CC a day
yes
dang lucky 
maybe I'll do a test run and see how long it takes
no lane stacking is easily the second worse endless mode
so long as your eyes booked high, it should be too bad 
203?
205 eye 207 aura
200+ raise dead shouldn't matter on a small map right
I'm on oranges
wurms is better
and also respawn does matter for citringe, its a rather large map screen wise
uhhh lemme see if I can just candy crawler
I didn't mean like lvl 0 vs lvl 200
I just haven't booked it at all yet
it's capped though
It is always good to do some CC
its worth it 
seems early for sigils
yea I just spammed out like 5 new bubbles on every cauldron for III so I want more water lol
indeed, shouldn't do them before reaching the last bubbles 
ooo +1 stamp level per day 
For the fighting preset, what should be the next upgrade?
heyo not bad 800kph crawler just need like 4 candy lol
oh wait
I'm throwing 
wrong talent loadout now it's 2.5m
Don't remember getting this but the fact I can't use it is bs
what's the whole thing with using the boxing gloves? I tried a couple minutes with a staff vs boxing glove and they look the same to me lol
You'll wanna save that for a little down the road anyway
oh so not related to the range
It has to do with range, and specifically for the Bubonic Conj.
no it is
Oh so it is range
you want to get near so you hit them with the aura
ahhh ok
So use gloves on bubo?
Better overall placement for aura while you're away
if bubo runs around getting close to enemies they will spread more aura around the map
Until you can get the Godshard staff, yeah
hey, how does one boost refinery hard?
i saw account reviews of people with rank 400 red salts, im at rank 25 and it takes ages to get a rank up, how is that possible?
That's a long way
yes but later gshard staff has lower range
Omnipathu, W5 Divinity

Killroy
Oh I bought ref cycles with killroy
Not the worst spend early on
I did only once so don't judge ne yet
i have doot, so is that active all the time?
I still have 1 more killroy today
If you have W5 unlocked and Div level'd a bit on everyone, yes
yeah im maxed in all gods, finished unlocking all w6 maps so im now trying to get lifeskills up i did not focus mcuh on in the past ๐
If you're early into W4 skills, eggs and ladles can be decent. Talent checkouts are also valuable. Later on, acrade balls are the best purchase believe it or not.
i did always rank up my salts tho , red and green and used DK skills
Oh I bought a few eggs and ladles
always be gamba
But arcade balls are better?
its still something that takes time too
yes because it can also buff refinery speed lol
Ye refinery is very slow so I'll take all the advice I can for it
I still don't understand what affects this
but you can get bonuses like triple bones or more monu afk faster so its the better choice
I still need to wait for 3 more divinity gods before I start hard grinding again
damage
Are you doing all your squire cycles?
the only advice is dont f it up
i am at 1 min refinery cycle, buying 1000cycles feels like a waste ;D my killroy is not that high tho
Worth it?
so, everytime you collect afk, there is a chance omni will give you Refinery Progress. You should always check and rank up your refinery when you get those hits. It's a slow progress that snowballs and gets faster. Be diligent over a couple months and you'll get into 300 red. A year? And you'll be here
Yes I have been
Now that I have es I should probably just let my salts keep ranking up and active farm the resources
nowadays value has been lost a bit due to more lvl sources for all those things so its mostly up to you. Still really helpful nevertheless
or do I wait for island explore?
methods is better imo still
what shd u even put in hole div gods im currently going articus and harrip
depends on what you're doing really
wtf
Worth it if you already have the wings?
if You're in lab theres 0 reason to go arctic for example
Skip rift
thats crazy, ive been playing for a long time now, but im red salt rank 25. it takes weeks to fill that up, with a cycle of 60 seconds. i cant afk so much, or i never hit refinery in it .. idk
mid bundle
im doing hole now
I strongly suggest Omnipathu the Elephant as one of the two
Rift bundle so ass
which one tho?
Ye save ur 30
I have the wings.
I Think Phoenix wings are the best actually
Why aren't you wearing them
i am literally 50 years of afk time claim behind you. even when i claim 240h a day xD thats crazy
Wait nevermind
is it 
Why's your damage so low
See on equipped
no like which god to replace omni with?
Yes it's bad
Not far in.
If your a collector and want the slab and got the money go for it
ig
mmm I see I see
how do you see like this your card ?
They look cool the bonuses on the wings aren't worth 30 dollars tho
Eh, kinda. Did you factor in that refinery rank up times get faster and faster as you go up in rank?
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Hopefully another pack comes soon then, dunno what I could buy instead
https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=DetJoshPlays I know i have ti reset a lot of classes.
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Ye it's outclassed by Phoenix
Arctis, you want to manually link people with him to make certain you get the talent level buff.
phoenix wings were only 20 too
phoenix carried me to w6 pre vault
Cheaper and better
you have more then 1 character lmao
ic dose hole not give minor bounus?
The exp from mobs isn't bad but the vault exist
Except for your main es, link them with Purremp and use the second link on Arctis
ok
It typically does, but the talent level buff is weird
Ye but they all share accessories since I don't use them all as of rn
ic thxsm
What are you manually linked with on your characters now?
no..
omni and nobi its a jumbled mess
Why are they all in the lab
No bubble left behind.
Help me get over the edge T-T
Did u just buy sacred methods?
Not yet.
If u do push to w5 and sit them in divinity
equip food your survivablity is only 47
And bubbles need to be level 2+ for sacred methods to work I was told
i experienced the opposite... each cycle taking longer and longer
since salts needed doubles and triples and output doesnt
I hae to reset everyone but Luckso.
cards farm, prayer farm or upgrade gears about it tbh
Check w3 merit
Ah, so you're pretty much good anyway haha. I'm not certain about having to have Arctis linked to get the talent levels. You could check if you're making a switch
Also, I like having omni in the hole because you can swap it for Harriep to get more AFK gain% when you need to do prints.
death note, salt lick and alch too for more multi
Should I really wait to have those world 4 upgrades for the armor or can I use world 3 ones
yeah i got that
Ah, you said you were rank 25 yeah?
yes
which w4 upgrade?
Stones
The armor ones
What is the cap on your salt? 1M?
ic thxsm
troll? no I wouldnt wait till troll for better gear lol
yes
youll be in amarok for months
The upgrade stones
waiting for troll is a troll lol
Stones upgrade
lmao
I only get 30 a day
why would you need to wait for stones?
It won't increase anymore. But you're production rate will continue to increase, yeah?
just make 2 sets a day
Tbh there's a point where you out damage or have more health that defense dosent matter in w3
w1-4 stones kinda suck regardless since they dont target stats
To use better ones?
4 is the first one that does
I beat w3 with max hemoglobin and a ton of hp
can be better* you dont really have control over what stat you get
I dunno, I made 4 amarok sets today used all my stones on my first 2 now I don't have any
oh wow, yeah so i just reached the point where it stays at 1M, makes sense now.
but up until this point it was different
Still havent got the 10k power stones for the monument so im not sure if this is how it works, should I hold onto to these?
I chilled in W3 for a year when I was a noob 
I wouldnt stress stones till w5 personally
Did u reach w4
Of course
thanks a lot for explaining. so it will ramp up soon ๐
What caused it
Buy the stones and use em then
~noob~
But there's none anymore
Yep, you're at the start of a very shallow slope. But you've started, it's slow but it will get faster from here on out. That happens at rank 22 for every salt btw
Each word new Amarok set with that world's stones
Wait each world has a different shop?
You can beat w4 with w3 stone armor
Yes that spider near the portal is the shop
Go buy out the shop
No but not each character can buy every day
You can only buy out the shop on one character no?
Yea
Just playing solo and super casual before ever encountering this wonderful community
I wanted every character I had to beat Chiz before I entered W4, which I did 
So is this worth it or do I wait?
Is bubo's talent only works towards 1 player on each side or All the players on the side?
If you can't keep up get it but don't let it blind you to neglect it
Should you really be buying out these?
For greenstacking
Until you greenstack them yes
Very expensive but buy as much as u can
Every player that is to the right of him (inside the mainframe) will get the buff for the width one. For XP it'll be everyone to the left of him (inside the mainframe)
Buy everything 
What's green stack?
It will come into play soon
I'll not bother.
I don't have enough inventory space in my character to buy so much tho T-T How can I hold them
lol even the basketballs
So if i want all players in lab to get extra xp then bubo should be on the very far right?
yes
Store them when ur full
So all the players are on the left side of bubo
meh
Alr thx
10m+ stack of an item
1k piggy tokens means you spent 1k+ days wth
that takes a long time

Oh that's pain
Quick deposit
10m days of buying basketballs
at some point you get x2 of the 1 stack items. You just need enough extra stock %
There's an option?
Maybe not everything
I'm a bit of an odd one. But there are things you should buy daily from the shops
In storage yea
Oh you meant that
Lock the items you don't want to leave your inventory tho
fill inventory, deposit to chest, fill inventory, ect
Okay I'll try
Remember that Gold stopwatch you have?
W3
2x a day but ya
No way u used over 1k
Aren't those expensive
I get 2 in the shop each day
Theres an anvil reset item in the w3 shop
Wonder if it counts the sacred methods
meh not really lol
nothing op about getting 1k pigs ๐ญ
A good 10 watches are 100 levels
1 a day so I need to do 4 days for all char resets.
Yes, they are extremely powerful
Which is why you should save them
Nah just the watch
ya its not really.. that big
im struggling to get cards specifically wood cards is there anything i can do except maxing the card drop % cards
Alr I'll save mine for now idk how I got it tho
Farm them with es
just keep in mind, it doesnt put EVERYTHING 24hr ahead
farm what with es
Like what refinery bubbles and such
Hoorah, used like 50h of candy for them all, but everyone is an elite now
Cards
Regular Drop Rate has an impact on card drop rate. The "card drop %" cards are like a buff on top of your normal Drop Rate, so focus on that as much as you can.
There's a good card drop rate card actually
alright
I think it's gigafrogs
So what now that everyone is an elite but not the journeyman
In lab the player order in the tubes depends on which player is uploaded into the lab first right? Like if i put my bubo first and then my archer 2nd, is my bubo gonna be on the right side or the left?
Do maestro quest and push to w5
Don't waste time in lab
So I now use the journeyman?
There's a God that can help with that
Get all of his w1 skills to 32-35
Not all
No idea what that is
Everything (except for Lamp in W5 Caverns) that happens when your Daily Reset occurs (when shops reset) happens when you use a gwatch.
first upload - left most
second one will be right of that, and so on I believe
I said w1 skills
I don't know what that is
Mining choppin and smithing
Oh okay, thank you
Ah okay then
Do I keep the rest of my players in the lab?
You need to make journy man into maestro before u can get the elite class
Take out dk and push it to w5
it doesnt effect anything in hole 
okay, I'll try!
And leave jm afk skilling
@strange prism it wasn't bad, 30 minutes to get cc off cd
Journyman is jm
ok ok thank you
Np
stopwatches pretty much only effect stuff done in towns for each world
if you are talking about the bubo talent like this. it is refering to inside the mainframe. Not tub wise. So if you want to benefit it has to be set up like this (my bubo is left most). for other one you want it on the right most side. Not tubes
The only thing that happens on daily reset in hole is Lamp Wishes. In that way, yeah.
you want the other way, exp better than line width by far
Huh
They're in div, I don't have div 5 yet they're not in lab
5th god makes it so players in lab will count as in divinity. 4th is harriep. who triples printer output
2nd god counts as in lab but no xp gain.
Ahhhh
My bubo is the wizard hat, so all the players get extra xp?
correct
Alr
So the logical way would be to lock them in lab after getting second until they get 5th
You will assign as many as you need to arctis so that you can get all the buffs you want. But keep them on divinity.
The bubo doesn't need to be connected or even active to impart the buff either
Just to the right (or left for the other talent) of everyone.
Alr I figured that might actually be helpful since I've been stuck using 1 character at a time
Inside the mainframe right?
Can't wait until my bubo floods maps with poison and auras
It's a nice feeling
I got that feeling when I saw es go crazy on those frogs
Also why do mobs get bigger over time from the wormhole
I didn't see anything abt it in the talent description
they just get more hp and better dr and stuff the more kills you get
Ahhhh, welp now I need more dmg
how many are you getting to
Alot
I feel like around 100 is chilling
not dmg, kill count lol
Oh oh I get over 100
yea you're fine
Ye that happens instantly as soon as the wormhole happens
My Deathnote isn't bad.
It will get worse soon
wait til you do your first vman run and everything just says 2m
Super chows too
it's bad tbh
Wait Until you see my alt... I left it afk since 2023.
The death note will progress faster without you rushing it of you can't get at elsst 50k-75k kph
I dont need to equip any cards that has the word passive right?
Nope
Kk
They are always active no matter what

Let's see how long this 4 star card grind takes
what armor should i use for late w3
all characters since the armor i got isnt rly cutting it
food is the best armor
Just stick a stack of the current worlds your in shop food in your food bar and you'll be fine
amarok armour carried u to w6 no diff
i dont got enough accuracy or defense
Boxes from the post office earned go to each character?
idk what to do for accuracy since on my hunter i cant seem to get as much strength as i need
have you done your roo/owl? Do you have cards that give accuracy?
no, it's account wide
yes to both
I have 80+ boxes but can't recall doing any deliveries today
you could try switching to squire since they have a skill that gives a lot of accuracy
Squire is rly good for accuracy problems
But you might wanna farm them accuracy cards if you don't want to
so i should switch my main like world progresser to squire?
Ye once it turns dk it becomes very good
Yeah, squire turns into DK as well which is one of the best world pushers|| (except for cuupies SB)||
hes the one i primarily mine on rn so its gonna take some adjustments to my barbarian
alright ill figure it out
What world are you on
they're on W3 they said they're struggling late W3
Xc do you have an IT I could look at?
how dare u say that to my sb

What should I be wearing and having to skill my skills faster for the journeyman?
Tools for the skill and efficiency boost and skilled dimit prayer
IT?
!it
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I don't have the prayers yet :/
i dont no
Go to the picnic basked on the bored beans map and do all his quest until he gives the peanut recipe
if you don't use it it's fine. It just gives information about all your account. So we'd be able to look at your gear and everything to see what you could do to improve
Just give him tools then it'll work that way too
You can just swap to what cards are best and make sure you have the foods for that skill on.
Yes give him everything you can for that skill
Okay I'll try that
this sample guide has everything that will help you out checklist wise.
There's food for skilling :0?
Yes icy iornbites for mining
ill make one
yeah, will give extra afk xp
I did his skilling without food actually
Just used alot of efficiency cards and gear
And let him sit there for a few hours
I made 1000 but isn't 10% kinda a lot
nah 10% is low. But tbh if you just have one in your food slot it'll count for the entire time afk/candied. and only consume one. But if you have a stack it'll consume as many as it needs.
Either way it's best to have all of his afk gain skills as high as you can get them
afk
And Max his strength stat
oh! So I made 1000 for nothing lol
You're gonna be swaping his stats for a while
I did the quest and didn't get it
didn't get secret class?
Like in the talents?
Yea only until you finish his mining
Do you have the quest for maestro?
I didn't get penuts or anything.
Ouf, I divided between all 3
It's a quest line
I don't think so
So you're just preparing but the quest for it is at the end of w2 but it requires alot to start it
Right, you told me 31 in every skill right?
okay okay
It won't take long only the 3 quest lines will consume time
I'm trying to find them in the wiki
The peanut recipe drops on the 2nd daily quest for picnic guy. so you'll probably have to wait until reset tomorrow. Unless one of your other characters has done his questline
You need to start the cactus quest
Aw
This right?
@thin wind is what you need for my IT the name of my first character
Oh gosh, the golden plop
There's guides on quest you gotta do before that
Yep that
once you have an IT account. you can go to data, press upload my profile and then copy the profile link.
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But u can't activate goldricks quest until the cactus gives you the quest to steal from him
And can't do that until after u pass the first parts with the bandit Bob stuff
usernames r a mess
Gonna need bullets Yellow bandanas all kinds of stuff
Got it. Put back in lab now I level Special class
One second I might need to restart my computer. It's not loading up the profile
when i pressed upload your profile it did an error so i just copied it
that might be the reason
You might wanna push to w5 before worrying abt the lab
There's a few gods what will make lab easier for you
so much stuff
It'll be smooth just need patience for the rare drops
can't I just get the bag of peanut from my first character that's just waiting for the golden plop?
Eh, I'd still do lab bc the early ones are fairly good
and use it for journeyman
Here's a little tip, another character can do all the quest and get the peanuts
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awesaume sauce
He can be skilling while someone gets the peanuts
Ok I can look at it now, give me a second to see if I can find anything to help you with accuracy and def
ok
@signal sequoia are you late w3 right
yeah
im trying to get my squire a little more equipped for fighting rn
you should craft amarok legs, chest and boots. and put W3 stone in them
i already gt those on my maestro
or journeyman not maestro
you need to work on your owl as well. try to get to at least 8 fractals (the last megafeather) it'll give you big bonuses
But food, some defense and hemoglobin will fix that
why's it 655
ok
make sure you follow the roo guide in #newplayer-chat-w1๐w2โณ it gives a lot of accuracy and dmg.
10% but your chars have less chance
alright
Ye there's bonuses to make golden food more valuable
this is how much I get vs how much you get
hmm
oh damn
Ye roo and owl are worth it
I might do those instead of card farming now actually
with roo and owl they get A LOT easier the further into them you get. So don't worry about the slow start. just start grinding through it
nah no quick ref for the clickers unfortunately
What abt the map
Have you been doing any alchemy xc?
yeah
probably not as much as i should i dont do the vials much
ive been meaning to get to them
U got Shaq bubble
ok just making sure, shaq is good for acc. but make sure you're making use of your secondary stats for accuracy on your characters.
yea
At your level I don't expect u to have high vials tbh
oh yeah, mf 21 on the horizon
yeah
early game the axe one isn't as good as the sword. doesn't do much damage. so take the 50 out of axe and put it into gilded sword.
yeah i figured as much but it still seemed rather important so i tried to keep it leveled
Afk gains are where the archer classes shine the most
So I can push with my blood berserker right, while my other characters are in the lab, and just get this golden plop, then push in w5
Yep
okay thank you
You can do post office utility for extra accuracy stats. you shouldn't be putting into mining box on your beastmaster
The journyman only needs the nuts
in this image, I would likely take the 30 points out of the eye because criticals don't do anything when afk, and you likely 1 shot anyways
Ye remove they eye points
are post office boxes not account wide
the boxes you earn are, but the ones spent on each character are not
oh
I'd remove the points in hp tbh
you can spend your po boxes on each character basically
I invested into hp after all my damage forces were max
Food will get you along the way
1 in 20000 will take hours T-T
Oh so all the boxes are shared but spend how they want
You have ancient golem?
do it on ES, or wait until you get ES
But yeah Xc do owl first. It'll be super easy to get up a bit. and the all stat from that will give you a lot of accuracy. and roo takes a bit more time. so you might need to just work on that slowly.
Make your amarok gear and put stones on it,
What do you mean
or you can have some of mine that I farmed
what's that
The companion
You can pass me some? Is that allowed?
And es is probably the better option for rare drop farming
ES is the elite class of wizard that you get in the 4th map of W4
Oh I think so
@signal sequoia buy a trap and skull for each character and equip them btw.
lol I wish, I have no need for these that much
Get a elemental sorcerer
Oh lol
why
Is it one of them?
you will not get charges as much on your characters without skulls. and you will need to do worship on all characters for the most souls. for traps if you give everyone a trap you can set them all and with BM eagle eye talent you can reset them without going on each character. for laziness you can put everyone on crabs since it's the left portal of W2 town and very easy to access.
It has the ability to boost drop rate while spawning more mobs from a worm hole
So while my blood berserker is going into world 4 of world 5, I use kith5 for the golden plop?
Yep
wot T-T I didn't see that
oh alright ty
Use kith5 for all the drops
I'll show my es skills
also for prayer unequip big brain time. 300% monster hp is not with the little xp buff it gives you.
just did the amarok armor, what for the headpiece?
icl i had no idea i had any prayers active
just on squire
okay thank you
just an iron helm or whatever for now. I wore an iron helm for a while. so whichever material works best for you. Some people want you to make the special hats for your class on anvil tab two
Those are not worth fr
yeah i grinded over a couple days for the special armor sets just to learn they arent worth it
none of these cards give accuracy btw. you want to equip wood mushroom, sand castle, and neyptune (you probably don't have neyptune)
Amarok armor + a helmet from the best ore you can get
my cards r kind of a mess rn
You can also equip the cards that give secondary stats in order to add to accuracy. also card SETS give good bonuses. W3 card set gives def and acc
Woodmush is probably the easiest
woodmush is rough actually because of low spawn rate. sand castle is much easier
Or get some wis cards like slime
no way to speed this up except just mass murder right?
yeah tier of skill are rng
Kinda surprised that bubo dosent have like 1m hp
so basically bubo mass murder streaks, atleast it has basically no difference from wurms in cc times for me
Are you tier "skill issue" perhaps?
what do i do here
Don't do the gods one sinceu haven't been doing divinity
I'm trying wormhole for some golden poop
If u don't have the gods ignore those skills tbh
So i just let it run on auto active?
okay!
Pretty much
Equip the skills too
IT'S TAKING SO LONG
You should have been getting hot dogs to prep
And gold bars
Yum peanuts
is 250 gold bars so hard to obtain at this stage? or is it 500 peanuts?
well, bars horrible nerfed 80% reduced time so, bars no ig
Now they gotta farm carrots for hot dogs
lol, only 1000 hotdogs though, even with 1 shop buy for a new player that should be a lot, even if its not this much
especially with vault
well, if new player know about secret class when start, can get all
it's actually not enough for all 5, I had to farm carrots too
Damn they gotta wait 3 days for jm or fight carrots all night
i create new account and no problem for get maestro
your hotdogs are that low in the shop?
Can prob do a decent maestro iron man now tbh
no I mean 1k, for a single day, isn't enough for all 5 golden peanuts
you'd have to know about it in advance
Do I need to equip some specific cards to make it easier?
Drop rate
drop rate?
yeah
okay thank you
Ima check my roo and owl then card farm maybe
Traps are screwing me over with shiny odds today
all dr cards
Ye I might get the card farm over with
Sadly my cards aren't as leveled T-T
honestly you can probably replace the ones you don't have with other things like crystal spawn cards and afk gain rate
damn his cards are better than mine
I'm not afk tho!
with cdr passive from vault it's easy
Ye the crystal in the sewers is still carrot so more chances to upgrade that card

should I farm the rest of these slots for DR obols or will it take too long to be worth?
too poor to buy W6 packs
my low account cards
You have 400 more gems than me
eventually you should
So what should be my last card?
what are the bottom left 2? events?
This is high
genie for my xtal spawn
also I'm pretty sure the cake is passive
You don't have doot card?
I'm world 4-
you could go for damage if you have multikill unlocked
genie is zone 4 w4
Ye genie is where u got elite classes
crystal w1, mimic w2, box box w3, mr brightside w5, minichief w6, emperor w6 boss normal, event, king doot
Not yet there
You've been there
try to farm my cards
So i don't need to equip it?
ahh im missing the w6 ones thanks
Oh okay
yeah if a card says [p] or [passive]
start with giga-snelbie-sir stache
after that, continue with mimic and box
long time

What does snelbie give again
cdr
card drop, also passive so doesn't need to be equip
Ye ima do a card farm
gstack soon
doesnt passive mean applies on map enter not on equip
the snapshot stuff or whatever
Drop me a list of w1-3 cdr and Dr cards
๐ค maybe P and Passive are differen't so you might be right
I'll get my gold plop with this
I should gstack those, but trying to grind out 100k golden cheese while ballot active
let me equip it to see if it changes my dr
crystal, mimic, bop box give dr
gigafrog, snelbie and sir stache give cdr
Bet thanks
Nah passive means you don't need to equip it
mhm
Okay start
auto on doesn't seem to spawn the portals T-T
is it on your bar?
yea try cloud save or reboot client
You guys run gloves on es?
it works but way how u make stuff may not work the way you think it does
i'd say this itself is a good enough explaination as to why you would want to always use a wand
3 more & I'm done sailing 
sailing... good times
Gotta get them boats upgraded in prep for next unlocks
na, sailing it's horrible
The free one from quest.
i got all soves with 0.01% lmao
no but damg that card is crazy, haven't gotten even 1 to drop yet
๐น
Ah, it wasn't worth it then.
one of my 6 cards I don't own
this stats is horrible, same % with 500x and 1600x
Better than mine ๐
Is there an updated "Idleon guide sheet"? The one I have was last updated 2023
cuz no changes
And still confused how to play it right.
A lot of things goin, been playing for 2weeks.
finally, 120 trap sucks
When we doing dungeons for cards tho
count me in
Fish is the hard carry, I'm not good at dungeons, have to wait for him
doesn't everyone get to the same spot, aside from rng?
unless you just mean knowing when to progress to next stage or something
Dungeons are tons of rng, but levels matter tons. Anddd if you're running coin flip, chance to get gold upgrade out the door
yea that's what I mean lol
I didn't do all my star skills right...
anyone can be the carry if they hit the coinflip
Not me, bc it's steam only achieve
only thing not maxed is starting hp
Still do decent, and can carry, but higher rng chance
I hate my rng on vials
alr im back if you do want to run any dungeons
y'all wanna hear something funny
W3 or w2 and risk it?
I didn't know divines have a paid buff on them until today 
after seeing how good the W3 boss cards are for dungeons I think it might be worth running a few, especially since the achievement to do 1000 jobs will take a bit
It's okay, I didn't til you said.
Lol
Ohhh, yeah... I thought you meant pack bonus
lol
Bro sleeping on Divines
Okay, what server? Db is in hole, got my dk

salty 3 as usual
I'll put it in finder too, since ppl need for equinox
sounds good to me
oh yeah I never thought to put card doublers on my dungeon set when I run, this is some good card chance
place more cogs or players
I finally got that new bubble today too, hopefully I get something
I'm here
Anyone else that needs w3 dungeon, salty 3
was talking about the lab chip not this but both are good
is this the onlky one that works inside?
not sure the mechanics of what gets stripped and what not
yeah other cards don't affect
Are you running W3 dungeon?
What should I spend my weekly boss trophies on?
Bad?
yee
good offers
When will "Gem Motherlode Pack" be back?
never hopefully, it sucks
This is my current gem offer.
yeah that's probably one of the best ones in the game
Should I buy it?
is that you up there? you want in?
out of all of the packs, that's one of the most worth it ones
how do i get better skulls?
Do I keep this
im so damn broke
Laaaaaaryyyyyyy
Bought it. Do i keep this?
You sell it for 1000000 pickles
Oh
rng
LET'S GO
@indigo stratus you guys in the dungeon rn? might be desyncd
rip
BRUH DON'T TEMPT ME
gems are worth but the rest is mid

Won't buy
honestly doesn't seem that bad, only a few hundred thousand active kills
lot more then that
not really? high crystal chance + choco chip
I bought this.
could do it on bubo if you wanted to rush it
if youre odds are 1 in 34 and you need 25k.. its a lot more then a couple
1 in 34 kinda low
right..
is the Sacred Methods Pack perma +10 or over a certain amount of days.
https://imgur.com/JDm1oPW.png
though for the skull points one, best to just let it run on auto. not worth the hassle of manually managing skulls imo
@warm grove
but still lets do some math, for simplicity lets say 34 mobs on avg. for a crystal, need 25000 crystals, with choco realistically making that only 1/4 the amount of true kills, thats like 212,500 true active kills
"I'm surprised people are even debating this. It's probably the most OP pack to date. Just passive gains forever lmao. Not to mention the gem value is good for a 20 dollar pack. My only issue is that it feels very p2w, you're nerfing yourself pretty hard if you dont buy it" Oh Damn it's perma.
is this on or off face? for Kitsune?
yeah, very good with only like 2 real contenders
off face
cheers
Yes we were in dungeon, didn't see what you were typing
its all good, think my game bugged was all
wait for last packs
ah man, i'm cooked
I won't buy. I am happy I am getting 10+ levels in alchemy + No Bubble Left Behind.
- Stamps.
yeah ig
What is the point?
Lmk if it fixes
same
HUH
lol
guess I gotta reboot every 2 rounds or something
at least you got an arcade stamp though 
youd think its that simple, but the hours ive been here would imply otherwise
0,1% chance at least I am hitting them odds
check guild kills for accurate number
you need more than this
better image
hmm, double it and give it to the next character?
2: killroy kinda fks it
Is this bad....
indeed
terrible
almost done with one 
wheres the drop rate star 
when the crystal crab wants to drop more
oh yea and that
then you will mentally feel like you're swimming in obal

how did my construction shoot up from 300k to 500k in one night
the power of leveling DK
its not even optimal layout
i mean its the right idea
broke 10k 
Card farm isn't doing so gppd guys
what card are you farming
if it's demon genie rip
i candied my demon genie
yeah me too, takes way too long
Snel
honestly, getting 4* genie took way shorter than I remembered 
5* can fuck off though 
feels like it, got tons of crystal cards
no only their own
I was loaded with gigafrog cards now this damn snail barley drops em
i wasnt even paying attention but getting 4* crystal capy card was really fast
Inv is full of mob drops after only 20 mins and the card is only 1 star
how big is your mob mat bag?
i ran out of obol frags
don't compare w1 mob cards to anything else. he gigabuffed the drop rate of everything not in sewers/tree
I figured there was something to it
i got my 4* snelbie really fast tho
It's fine I can wait for a bit, glad I'm doing cdr first
i was just farming the pendant
like this was from farming my pops
how many pops did you get
and that was on my alt account. here's my main where i did it way before the drop rate change. so you can clearly see the difference
just hit the 1%
Press 1
candying DB for 1bs gets a lot of cards 
no.
Oh, finally, I'm unmuted
full family (minus 3) and one personal set all silver rerolled
the life of a dootless guy XDDDD
this is mine for just personal ๐ญ
if autoloot and doot were in 1 pack, i would actually buy it
cards be carding I guess
cope
No rift?

nope, i was dps locked but i havent checked in a while
hello chat
Ye I thought card farming would be faster
im on rift 35 i think
Yeah you might do as well
god i cant wait to unlock eclyplese eclipse skulls
that will be so nice to have
its like statues, faster if youre not watching it happen 
Oh I was just sleep ๐
they give big damage 
I should prob check out the rift
the only cards i actually farmed was my accuracy cards
Rift is one of hte big things im looking forward to unlocking In W4
cooking
rift
elite classes
lab
my sweet sweet 4* troll card
dont farm cards, farm candies 
cowbo jones ruby when
im just spamming w4 colo for mush drops and keys to farm troll
honestly sounds nice
idk what normal and chaotic troll gives but i like the total dmg from NA troll
cooking speed and skill eff %
ah
i dont really need the former but the latter is always useful
Just checked card drop chances and god they do get crazy after w1
oh shit 60%?
thats huge
I love my chaotic troll
very nice 
I wanna run some colos
dont say that in here, might make someone mad
am i lucky to have gotten this to 3* from the few free W4 cardpacks ive gotten over the past 2-3 years?
some swear running colo without 900dr is a crime
900dr?
not me running 5 colo runs every few hours with a shaman just to reach lv 80 alch with under 15x DR the other wee kXD
I have 10k void bars and I haven't evened mined much of em from
dont think any items are colo locked 
iron boots recipe
They aren't but we're faster gotten that than mining
W6 colo maybe?
thats.. really bad mining eff is so 
get items from maps ahead of you in pitiful amounts?
30 crystal chain 
the mini bosses have their recipes 
true free minibosses in colo
i should run some ice colo for the dilapitaded s;shes
I haven't done a Colo due to not needing any of the materials yet
for more ice keys
People want you to save the tickets for db
just a warning w5-6 colos are very expensive 
NA chiz wont 5* itself
yea colo makes DB unlock very easy
Oh ik they are I don't plan to spend anymore until I have alot
fair
but i like to use them on my shaman for CCing
its the most effective and efficient way per CC
(at my current stage_

I did get like 70 keys from the colo for chizoar
oh good god 30?
Are base stat obols like wisdom/str/agi worth grinding a set?
I thought 20 was alot
you get like 3 a day with 2x from vault so its 5 days but still
W4 is 6
get DR. u can farm base stats ez with alch
^
You didn't do all the colo quest on all ur accounts?
DR abd naybe skilling
kk, and I assume multikill is worth it later?
nah dr bis imo
like a full trapping set for your hunter/BM
o ok
yea skilling set also v good to have
and swap back out after to DR
Could have sworn I've been getting at least 14 tickets a day
?
What is a trapping set? Is there straight trapping effeciency?
u can only get 6 colo tickets a day
Correct me if I'm wrong but tickets work like keys right
only w1-3 give tickets daily lmao
inflation hits fuckin hard damn
Oh maybe I haven't been getting my w1 Colo and it stacked
indeed
Wait, there is more than one npc that gives tickets
That vault bonus Is a blessing then
Hey guys how to i add fuel to the refinery or am i being stupid
I am a fool
all 3 from collos 1-3
it atuomatiicly takes from your storage
Give it resource
its like 1 2 3 6 10 30 lmao
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