#midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮
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I really want to get this earlier 
ES time!
how useful is "save wave" on td anyways.. wouldn't you be missing out on a ton of credits if you came back with better cost reduction, higher point% gain, etc
pretty much all my dudes are at ceramics
where can i check how many portal kills skydoggies and leeks requires?
Aimimg for lvl 400 es
think doggies was 70M or 100M
The family bonus makes it sooo worth it 🙏
How should i be dealing with quests rn? grabbing them all on every character but only really focusing on like one character getting through them all?
in general atleast im sure some quests ill want to do on all
in my opinion ignore them all and come back later so you can gstack the missable ones
and only do the ones that give good stuff
im guessing gstack makes quests quicker/easier?
no it's getting a 10 million stack of an item
slower, but more power
some of the quest items are missable if you complete the quests on everyone
I did the bone quest on all 
ahh okay guess ill stop doing quests for now then
I wanted keys 
or do them all on like a blood berserker class
oh lol i might have done the same
well atleast on the 6 characters i currently have
some talents give more boosts with more quests completed
I sure hope there isn't another multi character portal after sky doggies
so I've unlocked quite a few portals in w3, but I skipped the crazy 90+k requirement in the sir staches area
is that area important asap or something?
wait guys, is the 3rd god unlocked the one that gives u lab exp plus divinity exp?
wow a second megafish that does nothing
@white lintel are u the 3rd god
they should get back to you in 1-3 business days
my second god is arctis, all lab but no exp gained
someone told me to put all my chars on divinity first before lab
interesting, I wonder why

put them in lab and they will get xp when uploaded
what trap do I need to hit 8 slots
yeah
idk what that is, should I start farming sir staches immediately for it?
guess i will link to arctis after i can link all frames
u can skip that arra
nah it will be much harder, u shouldnt do it now
area
ur too early to get anything out of it
equinox is very useless till higher lvl
oh just royal traps
i cant even mine the ore there
I barely get anything out of equinox
honestly not that big of a deal
the resources are good for leveling but no afking there
lowkey feels super long to get to construction 15, is it meant to take ages?
every cog has construction exp %
it is slow, just keep all exp %
and just level the first refinery at start
not getting next from doggies today 
Huhhhh???
only 5 layers per day
Like 5 across all resources?
yes
I finally have royal traps on everyone, now everyone has +3 traps lmao
I need more salts to get my meaty traps and royal
wait does everyone need to have shiny snitch or just whoever I claim on
or whoever I log in as for vacuum 
Should I focus on leveling up my DB grimoire? Like how important is it and what point should I stop at?
is there a point in leveling your characters past lvl 75 lab (when you unlock all the chip slots)?
2.1k lab lvls. Jade emporium jewels
No
I love being able to just say fucking it and instantly craft a whole set of troll armor purely to get more agility for my trapping due to wanting slightly more critter gain
magma when
here in like 5 seconds
marble when
never
smh
it doesnt have all stat
....it does
sorry was thinking godshard
i can't afford it
marble is so cheap tho?
only 34k bars 
this is the hardest part
so 1 2min claim
hole forge cap is THAT strong
tbh fair, i didnt have it maxed till i had enough points to overflow recently
did make magma at least
but yeah, ur forge cap is still really high
due to vault, still has a 7.5x from before
plus when I get my fist marble set it's going to my bubo
which is like maybe 3 or 4 2min claims
29857 -> 40532 agi
135B -> 136B Trap Eff
14k% -> 14.1k%
wow was a lot less than I expected going from this to magma smh
it stoned?
My guy juiced on the meals tf
ig the additive from call me ash makes a massive difference
(no)
oh yeah i think I got like 10x more crittes now from hourly clicking ask alone
?
theirs is smol
Na last time he told it was 55 now it's 90 so yeah ...
thats known as ignoring cooking
Hell na
yes
I prolly should juice up my diamond chef
he couldve pushed all that up via 1 ladle per meal
iirc this was 338k last time I placed
wow lab is so op
shoulda put my guys there long ago
is roughly 150 xp an hour for lab good?
this doesnt actually work or does it?
It does why not
what does it do
Just need to place it so it will have dk in range
Give xp)
it's hard to read for idleon players
so it has to hit the DK and it only gives xp to one
💔
is that worth over a 50+ cog?
But player xp is stronger than simple xp bonus, so such cogs is good
Good when roll cog with both normal xp and players xp
It can hit both 
I only have one dk

oh shoot ,best one so far
1 dk and 3 bb?

SB, DK, Bubo, DB, ES, BM, DB, ES, VW, SB in order 
should i continue to just keep hoarding my time candies? or is there something in w3/w4 that is worth using them on
asked here about it
might be good with afk bones so I just went with it
Whoever told you to not make 2 dks is fucking griefing you
also didnt do construction before w5
nice
Wow
Some menace for sure 
Is it still possible to Zow/Chow/Super Chow/Wow Equinox Valley Rams? I saw the post from Scroli saying to do 1-minute afk claims but I got nothing when I did the 1- or 2-minute claims.
it is what it is, whining about it aint gonna do anything for me
that got removed, stand on top right platform and spam axe throw
surely you can elite class swap to dk 
how long will that take to wow
It’s alright
from master class? Pretty sure thats not an optionn
practically impossible
unless u are insane
I am starting another 20m trap arc.. so maybe I am insane
surely he will add a swap token with new master class 
Is it possible to do it if got masterclass?
no lol
here's my starting point before collecting shinies
A yeah right
we'll consider that when we get to that - for now we'll wait for afk bones 
is it possible to increase the max lvl for this?
caps at 99% btw for critters
wdym
no
it mechanically only works at 99%, no matter how high visually it goes
alchemy 80 
i hate this game
so there's literally no reason for me to get froge vial past level 4 then
vial mastery
ain't no way i'm getting that to level 13 for no benefit anytime soon
:3
Greenstack it, surely you’ll get it to 1m cost or higher too
i need to do all the critter vials first
maybe ill gstack them
that's like 10 hours of 20m claims tho
20m claims for critter vials 
i just got my jman, anything specific i gotta do on him or just send him to some monsters and grind levels?
im still on w3 so i dont think i can yet
do i gotta level any specific skills in preparation tho? i was reading smth about smithing and other stuff
maestro quest is on w2
yea you need like lvl 30-35 for w1-w2 skills
oh wiat woops i was watching vman vid haha
oh i see, thanks
is this mk per tier?
farming caught up again 
no, its trash
oh :< ok thanks
Is there any reason to give +% mob respawn gear to Bubo, DK or ES? Shouldn't their respawn abilities make the normal respawn timer obsolete? Or is that right for active, but those abilities don't work AFK?
ES highly gains from it for active, all need for afk gains still of course
So do abilities like Raise Dead just not do anything for AFK gains?
slighty more than i expected 
nope, not at all
those elites are very active play based
1b vials is surprisingly doable fyi
The day I’m not salt locked is a huge day 😔
i just did a 20m froge claim and i got 466m to pick up off the ground with 691k stacks 💀
Also would anyone be willing to give me tips for bubo now that I have 200 tent
dont get why they dont always just go straight to inventory 
lvl 4 froge aquired so ima go back to 20 hours lmao
lowkey getting the others to 13 first might give a bigger bonus then farming out the shinies 
Get stinger, talent bar is cc revive aura spirit fart (ghost damage is based on the other poison talent), alchemy box maxed, cookin roadkill bubble as high as you can. And good luck.
Also if your bubo survive crystal mob at wurms go there, else cc at cj
Use crystal farm setup too I guess because more crystal mobs mean more alchemy progress
I need a new bundle In my shop
same
Also w4 Colo is loading me with a ton of stuff I haven't gotten yet due to divinity farming
I think I have enough void bars for the set
And idk why but my damage keeps sky rocketing and I haven't done anything besides a few bubbles and some critter farming
Just wait for next masterclass then
New robe incoming 
And a bit of cooking here a d there
Evergreen robe I think?
Nah I need the cobalt robes
Update when?!?!?!?!?!?
Yes
REEEEEEEEEEEE
I dont think lava will put an old pack when releasing windwalker master class, its proly gonna be its pack like with db. And the evergreen robe being the item i guess
I see sailing is how I obtain the constant lab bonuses without needing to be there
damn spent 10 12 hrs candy to reach world 5 boss with bb, i couldnt kill him, not even close
Is this update this week?
Hopefully yeah
The big nono 
I got a ton of candy from doing Colo now that I think abt it
You’d need like around 80M dmg to beat kruk with BB
i have 50mil dmg
Dont do colo, save your tickets
What's ur min to max dmg range
i think min is 20 or 30 and max 50
is it worth keeping the cat on at this point 
Ye I have no reason to just wanted the achievements
Since i do 60-90m could I candy w5?
Should be somewhat doable then maybe, try pumping more but also max and book your bb’s talent
imma just put all my chars to lab for a while and grind stamps and alchemy idk
Only time you can take it off is for when you can do instant or 5s gaming without it
Yes 5sec and instant gaming it is
I main dk rn while my others sit in divinity
i barely touched the books thingy tbh idk what to buy
Dont candy 
Ik I can do it normally
i have about 300 books checkout
I also might keep the candy for my vman
Pls afk bones when new masta class 
Everyone candies through w4 and 5 and ends up in w6 with super lacking w5 skills for obvious reasons
Book any ‘dmg’ talent, like the active one or str. Or idk
k make sense probably
!merit3
1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.
This is kinda outdated
There's a button to send everything to storage after an afk session now
oof, ive been turning it off when using gaming candies 
If something has not been outdated once, its bad
(proly not but eh)
I mean that’s fine, those things are practically worthless so I forgot about them
So I've been maining Beastmaster and regret it now. Thinking I should have gone Bubo. But there's a 250 level difference between them at this point. Too late?
What if active? Its good to invest once tho
you should have mained DK/ES
There’s no such thing as a main
oh right, -1 merit point then 💀
Active doesnt use it
Bubo just a bich
Yea but atp you might wanna increase ur carry cap to
That sounds ideological
I mean arctis is right tho
Practically speaking there is such a thing. The one you spend most your time on actively
But u can use lol, dont meant auto
If u active with no auto loot and low carry cap then you probably aren't active for loot
But there is no charackter you spend most of your time actively on
You use different charackters for different things
some are better, some are worse
Good to deposit drops once in a hour when active
Yes but on a 10h+ session you’ll use it a few times at the start and near the end but that’s it after that
Nuh uh, later worlds let you stay on one class for the most part. Later skills are applied to all characters. So there's not as much need to swap
Technically you have someone you use more than everyone else but you need to active ES, bubo, DK and DB like always, so you shouldn’t just pick one to love you need to love everyone
Than running all the way to storage
I don't even rly have full storage after 9 hours of active
You should just afk atp
If you need a ram I can give you one @tranquil wind
Yes? Farming different things for different purpose
There is such a things since ES, DK and Bubo are made for different things
Aswell as SB
Me with 9k bubo hours: 
BM 
Es is for resource farming right?
Whats BM?
Ooo well if you dont mind
Meet me in w1 bunny 17
Like Delgado Kenway said, Big Mistake
I'll log in
Who wants to give me a ram? ;-;
Aaaah i see

you can't really brick acc but if you play like that you're definitely missing out on overall resource production

doesn't matter if everyone can do everything, as you said, assuming that's the case, then actually do everything on everyone and get literally 10x of everything
Crazy things happen in w5 chat 
what are some amulets i should be looking out for
W5 chat becoming best chat Ngl
🤔 Thing is, higher levels do it more efficiently (albeit with diminishing returns).
that's exactly why you don't neglect characters lol
Chizoar Blankies
There just solved someone's storage issue
Its because you’re there to bless us of your presence omega deadly giant sensei big papa mister goat kind sir great big ice blue god lord san sensei
Since those will be upgraded into the best neck in the game
Man I gotta push a few more characters to the end of w3
also that assumption that everyone does everything equally well is not actually true
I got like 70 chizoar keys
Yeah appreciate it
try to get a 3b copper ore print on your wizard
Sounds impossible
My BM is level 340. Other chars are around 120 and afk skilling. Some classes like DK or Bubo can be used for grinding specific types of items, so they'd be useful to level...
What would you suggest actually leveling? Is it worth class leveling more than one?
yes, just use the highest map you have that you can actually kill and power lvl everyone to basically the same spot
I should’ve known I’d end up being a w5 chat main with me being me
all those extra talent levels will skyrocket skilling production
Ye I try to use 1 character and catch them all up to nearly the same level
Bubo isnt used to farm specific items
My dk is pass them tho due to him sitting in the divinity but I don't think I need him anymore for now
all bubo does is alchemy, he just a bich
Gonna swap em out for a bit
Kind of good at farming everything though, isn't he?
Throw some toons in the highest map available to class xp farm
Get to w6, let your char afk in the maps there and a few days later they should be 300+
Just alchemy
No he cc
hes just ccing
Alchemy master fr
Crowd control??
Cranium Cooking
ES and DK are usually your items/mats farmer
No
Vman if you want boss drops
Oh yeah the Veeman too
weeweeman
I didn't make my vman yet, think it's time to start swaping my characters in and out of divinity
it's pretty hit or miss in practice for me, maybe just placebo or some shit but feel like I always get drops on my other chars not vman 🤣
Cranium cooking = racking up kills?
If you have 3rd god it should be somewhat real easy now
just alchemy
just "skips" time for alchemy
Nah I just got the first today u guys were right abt getting the gods being hard
Cranium cooking : when active every kill gives alchemy progress, to cauldron bubble, liquid cauldron (and you get the exp ofc)
and at points you skip like 1 months of alchemy prgoress in 10 minutes
These gods are so boujee and the second ones price is way more than the first
Gotta leave 6 ppl in divinity for 12 hours
you gonna be there a lot longer than 12 hours
Ik sadly but after the 3rd I hopefully can start fixing up my other skills
The more you get the more expensive it gets
Cooking and breeding have been going amazingly tho
I noticed bm has a skill that works even if someone else is breeding, taking advantage of it
And the infinite thing still
So now I have no issues with breeding and cooking skills it's just basic w3 stuff to deal with now
Mostly that refinery and that's abt it
More like a week, 550k seconds is like 6.5 days
realy? allways feels more tbh lol
Refinery should be fixed first
Which character should I give a go now I put my dk into the divinity
well then you get 1 month in 50-60 minutes
I js have a resource gathering and good print issue is all
I could sit ppl on getting them but someone told me to get the gods help first
Yea you should fix that asap bc refinery is a big time gate
I got the blue salts unlocked finally tho
I won't step into the second salt tab yet not until I get my resource gains up
Might give es a whirl and see how far I get
Alr got my es, now what makes it good for resource gathering again
Are you in w6 or w5?
chopping, symbols of beyond, utmost intellect, skill wiz and the family guy 
Logs on logs
definitely a must, wasnt sure if it was specific to ES or other tabs as well 
Just got to w5 but I didn't touch it at all
Don't wanna make anymore progress until I touch up my other skills
i get not pushing into w6, but unlocking w6 is pretty important
sailings w5, hes already there 
I'm doing all the skills just not any fighting
I want that artifact for all lab bonuses u think I'm gonna skip that???
sneaking, farming and summoning are pretty big tbh
Fury> 
Yea but idk if I can keep adding on more skills to my plate yet
Artifact for the lab bonuses?
I can def beat w5 today
Ye I was reading sum and it said I get it from sailing
Idr any artifacts buffing lab
does one of the PO box ones unlock lab buff? 
Likely
Not lab I meant shrine
The second one yea
Ye it says it let's me use the bonus anywhere in the world
There's a God for the lab bonuses if I remember
Me
well that ones nice as well
And that's the one I was told to get before getting back into resource farming and death note farming
Why would you do dnote farming?
More kills = more w1 resources
I'm pretty sure that's what I was told
I just want my es to get a ton of spore caps
Vman should cover your monster mat needs
Can I even get a vman rn
ES should be wood prints 
I just got maestro yesterday
Typically gotten mid w5
Oh
You need plat skulls on w1-3
Ye I sorta messed up making my with my wizards at the start and my bubonic is the wood getter
I’d wait to farm dnote until you’re more progressed and ready for vman
I can easily change that tho, with a few candy
all wiz is wood 
Ye but it seems es does it better from what I hear
You can get 1m kills per map for every world cheaply? Go for it and get vman rn then
I kinda neglect my ES so not 100% sure 
No no not that I can change my es into the wood getter
Gotcha
Wait until you get more gods and artifacts
I get like 5 or 6 kills each kill actively
Just use the afk info numbers bc most dnote farming is afk
19k kills was before I upgrade it again
And I had like 170% afk gains on my dk so idk if that adds on
Probably good to do it at 100k ish kph avg
+-20k
I need to beat wave 115 pet arena. But with 4 pet team. What would be my best bet?!
Kill per kill and MK (which is also just kpk but more sophisticated)
My dk can get up to 90m Max
The third god is another 2x kpk bonus
respawn pendants - gear - cosmetics, damage , prayers, cards
90M what
I want to touch up my other skills I don't think I'll cut it pushing to w6
Max accuracy is abt 16-17k
I haven't tested it with that new god i have yet
Acc can be fixed easily
And I think my bloaches print just gave me enough for 1 make Shaq upgrade
What 4 pet team you think could push to 115?
how do I get more of these connections or wtv they are called
I should try some acc cards and that new God
Make amarok or dementia armor and use w5 stones on secondary stat toon like mage for DK
lab levels and meals
Oh I forgot I've been buying out all the w5 stones
not sure if theres other ways 
Rattler, looter, refiller, defender or Borgar? Or just check the guide
perfect thank you

Toon to toon range or node to toon range?
Mono bad for arena
I swore I didn’t see a 4 man. Thank you
how do i unluck more toons
apparently its bad 
Total account level, it’s literally in the main menu lol
if that' what they are called
I just need 115 haha
Surprised he's doing that instead of using the God for it
Is it specified as an arena comp?
i didn't know that toons was characters i was so confused
loooots of different ways
Alr wish me luck on w5 pushing after this I'm fr gonna stop
~Meta Arena Comp~ at the top 
So toon to toon connection or lab node to toon correction
Ehh okay
its fairly normal to push to w6 and go backwards 
Maybe it’s fine for lower waves like 115
how do i get more nodes or wtv they ar e
Oh, I felt bad and as if I was neglecting or adding too much to my plate
Idk I can just bust thru the game than revert as needed
ya its not shown again after
Most are already on the mainframe, you can get 3 more nodes from w6 jade emporium. And jewels from the jewel spinner in w4 town
What to jewls do, I'm 1 away from having them
green thing bottom right
Lots of various things

Is it better to wait until I have arctis?
I don’t help with lab i just give you Bluetooth
no
you gotta connnect to jeweles aswell to get their effect
You can have active connections in lab with Arctis but won’t gain xp when outside the lab.
So I dont need to toss anyone in there?
you still do to lvl up lab to ge tmore rang
later on you dont need anyone in there
jewels are goated though, so whenever you can get them from weekly, grab them
this is what lab looks like in the end
Is bother supposed to heal? Because it didn’t heal a single time in that arena
Wait wait it let's me hook them to the main frame without them being in the tube
yep
thats what Arctis does, but you wont get any lab xp when outside the tube
Ok I see that's goated then
divinity>
So I still gotta level them up in the lab

Meaning after I unlock him they are all going back in there again
Eh could be worse
everyone in lab till div lv40, then you can just keep bubo in there (far left side) to gradually level everyone while they push/skill/whatever
Half of them are only used when I need to do td and the other skills
since when you get goat you level divinity + lab at the same time
but charackters need to be in lab
ehh
hmmmmmmmmm? 
Wait wait wait
There's a God that can level them for me without them being in there
no
Explain this a little
You need them in lab
while in lab, they get xp for both divinity and lab
goat god allows the charackters that are in the lab to also level up divinity
Ohhhhh
Welp I'm gonna be praying to gods longer
Is this the part where I just use 1 character mostly and the others for skills every few hours
pretty much 
Welp I'm gonna grab my dk back then
I'm gonna be in divinity for months at this rate
But if it helps speed up other skills I'll do it
spam left till right shows 100% 
Yea I totally been doing that and didn't get the first god on a pricy 10%
finally done
Do I have to unlock all the board in construction to get the achievement with all purple cog ?
Am I good ?
how much does it ask for.....also wtf
- combine the excogias for a buff
- only dks should be on the board
it gives that extra boost, which is multiplicative
also also: you dont want them near ur chars anyways!
Lmao I used cogtimizer app I think it doesn't take this in consideration
I used this https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/
(also i dont even get the point of cogtimizers?)
oh no wonder
a random one ive never heard or seen ever before
Lmao ok
dude downloaded malware
i use that one
What is the one to use ?
if you do use one...just use the one on IT
ur board is supposed to look closer to this
arrows on horiz and vertical, and the close up ones ofc there too
any waste one you see is only there for xp%
hmm
Same as me lmao
DK has by far best scaling construction xp and speed
cause dk is 99.9% of ur br
what in the world
damn looks the same that's crazy
okay better
db gives 50b out of my 2.25t br
(hes only on the board for levels for master class points)
mmmm got some juice
ooo nice
also i found out that 0% xp misc bonus ones are worse then raw 200% xp ones
thought it stopped at 150 n 64 
unless its your only one....which...why?
no? it scales infinitely based on ur highest const level
Misc as in directional or non directional
directional
so ive only been using 50% or better direct xp ones for now
or at least thats my goal
unless its an absurdly high boost anyways via misc
Ahh okay, good, I don’t need to worry about that then since my xp directionals are all 55+ iirc
the 0% staring in my face
anyone willing to do a deep dive on an my account and my friends on trying to find out why my worship efficiency is VASTLY higher than his is, despite having lower of everything in most cases, i have a shitty spreadsheet ready with most things weve gone over comparison wise, thank you!
That’s an xp directional not a BR directional
its likely due to 1 or 2 things. main question is how far into the game are you both
br 
yeah thats what i mean
what world, and whats ur highest div level
my bet is multitool stamp
skull, cards, worship level, talent levels
(soul food, statues, gold food, beanstalk)
bubbles
skill mastery even
he has higher of all those things, like i said i have a spreadsheet
better skulls
dim skillwit
link it
then he is likely missing multitool stamp
using the same character?
So what are you saying, bc Directional XP can’t get base xp as the extra stat or wtv.
uh huh
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1niZ2gLhRTrd4GKVxmWzlcfUJhFRi8difdSnkETWe0LY/edit?usp=sharing
yea idk what's up with this cogtimizer on IT the only time I can even get a positive boost to one of my rates is if I sacrifice a ridiculous amount in the other
it has the toolbox links, i can get the others
Mmmm ok, I don’t think I’ve rolled one of those yet my bad
its literally the main source of eff for endgame basically
I let IT with 10 min optimization and it's far worse than the link I gave you earlier
excluding whatever the fuck hole is
and this is why you dont use cogtimizers
common sense tends to be better then poorly coded bots
So.. basically just get like 50+ basic xp on your directional xp cogs?
Also I’m stupid and have many directional xp and base xp cogs idk what I was thinking
smh
I can get any info that yall might think of that isnt on the sheet
Is what I said right, not sure which one you meant by misc and raw
what soul did you compare with
you have different highest waves 
we are more concerned with eff, but he isnt only getting 30k souls on goblin, with upgrading i was getting 23k, now that im upgraded, but still lower in most, im getting 33k

despite being 30 waves less
can you use divinity pearls on worship?
higher wave - more per charge
bro I found it lmao @forest isle
is his supposed to be higher or urs?
he should be, higher waves, level, most things
no his shouldnt be
doesn't matter if vman isn't "first place"; his vman is so far below his ES that's ridiculous
his worship fucking sucks
best place to crys farm with bubo on w2?
my vman is level 36 in worship, is that really why its that bad? haha
probably used the charge steal on ES a lot
honestly, the skulls are trash, low level, and excluding the higher td then urs, there is no reason why his should be higher then urs
unless he was using boost food and you werent
he is player 1 on the sheet
im looking at every char
cause worship needs everyone
what in the world is this
I already found the reason, it's the vman lol
dont look at the other
Slush skull 💀
right hand go brrr
player with "why my eff so low":
idk whos who but ones definitely got better buffs from vman
38 level difference?!? Bro that's crazy.
(this is why you dont use syphon btw)
player with "why my eff so high"
syphon will forever be a bad talent
because vman exists
msa sorts out the whole tping problem
having 3 more skill types at 1st then him makes a huge difference
how do you divinity pearl worship without starting a tower defense?
so its just purely because hes underleveled everywhere and has bad vman
you dont
oof
start a tower defense
yes
You can't use balloons or anything unless you start it. So just use the first one since it's cheapest
there is a reason why people say to get vman started asap
and why vman requires a lot of care
is this for overall skills? i thought it was individal skills hahaha
it gives insane buffs
yaaaa I just blew all of my stuff on the msa lmao
that makes so much more sense if thats the case
candy can give charge at same rate as charge/day you have
I could probably level up my vman but at least he's R1 lol
daaam
lets not look at my vman
well with skills taht low it makes semse but DAM
nothing a few candy cant fix
Mine is r1 in like 9 to 10 skills lmao, not that sone of them matter
tho doesnt matter as long as i dont print
im lazy 
yeah some of them I don't think get affected. Or are hard to catch up
w1-3 is what gets affected
Yeah
peep my vman (help)
rip
lv5 as first is criminal
you are a genius
roughly how long would it take to get 1m kills in almost all for vman 
that's not so bad as long as your R1 isn't too high. Just use balloons. And fish is easy just fish in equinox you'll be level 50 in 5 minutes. You can also fix traps by using nature traps on vman and using normal shiny traps on others until he catches up.
with enough multikill, like 5 minutes of using candy 🙂
wait 5 minutes of USING candies

maybe like 1-2 candies idk about 5 minutes of straight candies 
I need sea salt island to finish my fishing
im lowk waiting for that multitool stamp to start doing my vman haha will take so long if i dont
depends when you do it
if you do it in w4: you will be there for months
i am w4 
How about mine hehe
ignoring stats and such
wow first in lab, nice
wow even smithing that's crazy what did you do lol
vman should be started to be obtained by mid w5 time
only make thread on vman 
I need thread for vial....
i still have zero clue what to even be doing ngl
Do I active resources for es or afk?
I just only remember to collect on vman idk why
i reached w6 and got vman without divinity 
what about lab, just only put vman on the left?
these stamps rare?
na youd have to only have vman lol
should I focus on getting everyone to elite class? 
Everyone should always be on the left of bubo, just that I forgot to take vman for a walk
Do you play es active or afk when resource farming
I got another goldberry hat
Active
Oh god
I have gotten no hats so far
Alr welp time to actove green mushrooms for a while
whaaaat damn praying for you
It's fine... although some look kinda neat
I got 3 of those uhhhh what it called like bounty hunter black brim
I got 2 goldberry and 2 popcat
popcat the goat, putting stats aside
my fav so far
gma disguise is up there too, I premiumed one
I have 2 premium hat tokens idk what to use em on tho
well its up to you
event ones are already prem, usually
Are they all better than a fresh prem?
uhhh I'd say most are pretty negligible
goldberry is the only one I can think of off the dome that has something pretty nice early on
am i supposed to reset collectibles after unlocking this ? 
Actually I haven't even gotten chizoar hat recipe yet too lazy to push the rest
reset enchants u mean?
no point until you get a good tab 2 collectible
uh probably
Have all and theyre enchanted 4-6 times 
u are cooked, better pray for rose or minecraft early
Atleast u can reset enchants now
I know i heard somewhere to make sure to buy out shops but does this also include stuff like the upgrade stones? im sure i should for my current max world but like im halfway through w3 at this point can i toss all my upgrade stone 1 and 2>
rose is study rate
if you desperately need space, you can prob toss the ones that are purchaseable from 1-3
don't toss the rainbow ones though, one of those is for stamps
kinda doubt we will ever be able to greenstack w1-3 stones
yeah craving space at this point trying to clean up my storage
w1 and w2 are gstackable
fr?
you can farm them
well you can drop them
oh lol
So at what points by does mobile become unplayable
well, even more reason to toss them early then, the ones you can buy daily are prob 0.00001% of farming ones
5 fps
Have tower widths been changed in the past 10months? All the guides get to place one tower on the small platform on the left in w5 td but rn it seems impossible for me
thats where you need like 1 mil of an item right?
if so im def selling my stacks of lik 27 since thats not gonna make a difference
10mil
okay yeah yeeting them
I should continute buying out the other stuff from w1-w3 stores right? like food and potions?
ahh
the second you hit install 
yeah some potions like mana potion from W1 are used in recipes. They also drop buy def buy anything past W2. Food like hot dogs is used in some recipes as well.
minecraft scales much harder than any other monu afk bonus which is why its so good
noice
smh
think im gonna keep my enchantments as is till I max engi, I like my xp/hr atm
but rose is the most important by far
imagine getting lucky enough to get it
I have nearly the entire bottom row
wo cao
all of first stuff too
this is what ive pulled so far : /
i am missing 1 tab 1
rupie value one is not horrible 
at least you havent hit any unimplemented ones yet
I meant actually once you progress so far it just stops working
if aod gets rose i am breaking his neck

I dont mind the xp 
yea the tab 2 exp ones are juiced
Im only at 189m/hr so anymore is always welcomed
ur at gambit right
granted I dont have every opal on engi so probably why
indeed and its a pain to push for 2x bones
get some levels in gambit study/upgrade measurer
im hardstuck endless so my upgrades arent.. upgrading
Is “Holy cow” an apt translation of this?
In meaning not in literalness
Yea but wo cao sounds like “woah, cow”
its soft c
yea it shouldnt be too bad to get to bonus bones once you have a decent amount of the challenges
i think i got to bones without noob?
idr
Should be doable
havent done king since I unlocked gambit but the others are fairly maxed atm
I got all without noob gambit iirc
Those are some depressing times

can get another 2.5-3 mins on king but idk if thats enough
.. that would be how it works..
surely your summoning is not that bad tho
I smell bad summoning but that’s just me
Show us the doublers

Ive been in endless for 2 weeks, idk where you expect me to be at 
App Store shows no updates 
my issue isnt even attack, I get ~10b during the fight, its HP
Verify ya files
That’s not..
On iOS? 
doubled cost upgrades 
Uninstall reinstall
not doubled yellow spikes 
didnt double yellow spike?..
Ugh then I need to log back in
Is there like a dated summoning guide
It made like no difference when I did it last time
hows that useless? 
but i also have like 15 more doublers
Bc I’m not referring to that one
this one?
Yes
so my damage is too low, but then you say im wasting doublers on damage

Yes
the damage upgrades are not created equal
alrighty
Bc you picked the wrong ones for dmg
I did all damage lmao
i dont think the cost reduction ones should be doubled on pushing build
Early game summoning should be a glass cannon which can take 2 hits right?
should've just picked all the good ones smh
I cant push atm, so I did essence 
I will get here some day 
if you arent pushing you should respec for all essence gain
I thought you did dmg
considering between cyan infinite essence and yellow dmg to double next
had extras, focused essence and did the rest into what i understood was good damage
Where do u get summoning doublers? I unlocked endless but didnt get it on the way

I don’t believe you remotely, there’s so much essence you missed
why cause I dont have white - green - yellow, didnt seem as important
white is important
the upgrades in those are small from what ive noticed
because it has mana gen
They all waterfall
infinite essence was definitely worth doubling
I didn’t have to log back in big pog
my red passing my green soon
im missing statue atm but ya ig more would be nice
shit ass green
what in the world is that
W1
i think you just need to full commit to either side since you dont have an excess of doublers
its essence gain from someone who hasnt been in endless as long as you 
if you're pushing the guide has the prio for doubles, if you arent pushing double every essence gen
seems like a reoccurring theme where people expect me to be in the same progression spot as them and im not really sure why 
wdym? we both have been in endless for probably the same time if I had to guess
how long have you been in endless lmao
i dunno, no more than 2 months max
ey.
i'm poor please spare me some 
lol, summoning neglect I guess
yeah I don't know how you got so much essence gain
only endless 75, stick on a 1hp round 
as usual
on endless 81 because I can't be bothered to do it
but yea imo if you want better times in gambit you should try to follow the doubler guide
pushed like 30 rounds but got sick of it
and if ur doing essence dont do this mixed shit just double every essence gen
time to get that god dam DB
soon
also 20K kph on trolls map, nice
but also if ur wish income is low i can see an argument for not spending on reset
oh you have doublers on all your essence? that's why its so high for your progress
12 wishes a day so I can reset at reset 
theyve been going to this lately 

10ilm+ of an item
In a stack
yea that shit good, the w6 one is goated
oh okay ty
yea I still need to unlock w5-6 
I need to push endless more for 114
Unfortunately I don’t think ill get 400 tent anytime soon bc my sneaking is really far behind
I just unlocked the second character in sneaking 😭
M2F6 and I need F12 to hit M3?
Idk but it’s less than ideal
I’ve gotten F6 done in 2 days tho which is nice, but Ik it’ll ramp up soon
oh it went from top 70% to 60%, nice
Speaking of which now I’m F7
i am going to farm some gems before i go m2
Meteors are such a carry ngl



why is the atk so low
