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on what
DB level
gets to 1000+ lol
hmm..
yuck stamp hit mana
ewwwwwwww
Nice multikill
big samurais 
nice
Fatter the damage the fatter the enemies
How good is this what should I use it on
i did
And the fatter the loot and STACKS OF CASH!
dang i saw it a while ago
This cab turn any helmet into a premium, it's mostly used for cosmetic since a premified hat only gives 1 of str, wis, agi and luk
nah
k, now go and equip the box and go place it at slimes
the herculean task of finding decent thunder gloves
yes?
where do i actually do the trapping tho because its not with the slimes
yes what
is that gewd
it is, just keep lookin
Oh okay, thought it would be gud
Then what?
alr
normally youll see a spot in the top left with frogs
use the guide for it idk
where dat at
i use it for arcade balls
... So gambling?
yes
Well I'd did ALMOST get a jackpot that one time with 300 balls
Absolutley painful image
ah found it out didnt relize the stuff he needed was monster drops

That wasn't even a good obol
STOP/
omg, the PTSD is BACK
i dont think ive ever even gotten to red pit in over 4 months of playing
maybe i got to it once and it was sum shit reward ngl
I got this. It isn't even good
I never thought that obols were that good
i just got like, 250 gems from red pit, thats all
The hells a red pit ๐
Well time to spend a few gems on upgrades
they are, esp DR, my goats fr
What
there are drop rate obols
Oh
the most efficient setup is silver pop obols for the circle slots and dice for the rest
nets you about 300% drop rate, personal and family tabs combined
Let's see what I'll get from another 50 anniversary boxxes
when should i get pop obls, im W6
early W6, like not even killed any W6 mobs yet
Yeah but what is a red pit???
being "w6" barely means anything these days
Is it an enemy or just the obols
The Arcade. The red pit in there.
next to the purple one and before the jackpit
you have officially finished the tutorial, you are now are the starting point 
Arcase tile with red dice - if roll 6 you can get more balls
Ooooooh
once ur ES can get 200+ portal on giga frogs and u have 10 DR on ES u can work on pop. for dice, u need a decent DK build and choc chip
we were on the topic of barely missing jackpots i dont really think it was dice related
10X DR on ES?
wow
yea around that is what i did for my pop obols
which w6 mob is that from 
the anniversary boxes mob
uhh, so I hacked and got to w7 where there are mobs looking like boxes
does the library talent book upgrade apply to both presets ?
w6 mobs drop sneaking hats if you have the jade emporium upgrade, wasnt sure if that was one of the hats 
yeah but those hats are purely cosmetic
i'd see more people wearing them if they had bonuses
wow, what is jade emporium upgrde
Sounds nice
its a premium helm just like what he sent lmao
Holy shet!
might be a refreshing change of pace from the thousandth deathbringer hood, actually
10% drop Rate premium hat 
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Well goodbye grandma's disguise
notice how this one does not have a misc bonus? this is just a regular premium hag
gotten 3 of the jackpot name tags so far
I misunderstood a bit, i though red pit they meant ball pit that comes from dice, but they meant red tile๐
hag yes.
nice
i have like, 7X
notice how I clearly misunderstood how he obtained the hat?
gettin lucky lads with this one
yeah, 7.63 X
XDDDDD
is it possible to get sub 99 points in ticket thing?
anyone have a free doot yet??? ๐ XDDDDDDD
I mean, it should be
prolly not
its not
is it a 5x5?
you have 25 tiles and the minimum they can roll is a 4
if so then nah i dont think so
4x25 100
the only possibility is a full multiplier board but there is most likely a safeguard for it
that possibility is also extremely rare
sources of DR?\
but what if you get a 4x arrow multi on the right side last column
sources of doot??????????
yea v rare indeed
money
probably coded to be impossible
dont know what goes on with lavacode
do u have a tradeable doot?
No
awwwww
zoro's gonna kick your ass if he sees you like this
yea, so the only way is full multi board which is prob not happening lmao
why? XDDDDDD
no begging in public chats
Anyways the only 2 guys I have not in the lab are my elemental sorcerer
bro i thought it was only the trade channels XDDDDDDDD
And blood Berserker who is cooking rn
ticket has been nice, got me 2 maxed boosts in arcade too
everywhere, actually
begging anywhere is bannable
ughhhhhh k
So I can't say gimme subs on my nonexistent YouTube channel?
my ticket luck is sucking ass lmao
lets see what my weekly pet's gonna be
bummer brother, just keep doing it and will get something nice eventually
alr, gl
ourple frog
I wanna show yall my recipes, yall got advice?
What accuracy do you need to even hit doot?
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I am using those cooking shoes btw
cook MORE
1500
egg is nice
Keep unlocking new stuff
tbh idk just keep working on cooking and prioritize cooking speed
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Yeah that's prettey obvious, I think i should invest on pie to get a bunch of recipes and then do egg
He really doesn't look that hard
Blood marrow?
vman skill, 15th
hes not difficult, but hes secret oooo
yea, I js hope I hit jackpot once for the nametag, that would be everything I need from this event. I mean getting duck from wish is also up there but the likelihood of that seems near 0 lol
also requires socializing. the bane of all idleon players
Yea, I already know
NOOOOO
GOD WHY THATS SO CRUEL
J didn't even get maestro yet :~:
nope, i got his doot phone from the egg that summons minibosses, it summoned doot and i killed and got his dootphone, so im safe from hell
spekaing of doot I should do a shop run
I'll still go get maestro
but as u get 300+ total meal lvls, it gets somewhat interesting
shop run?
buy doot eyeball, upgrade stones
Tell me more
oh k
uh its exponential
Is there food that can give 0.1% drop rate each level?
its 1+0.0... ^ meal lvls
much like rune and feather buying daily in osrs
na hes easy 
Alr new quest for today
Obtaining maestro!
how do you toggle off gilded stamp, I thought it was your choice when to use?
I also just learned the troll card is passive cooking buff
Tho I have to get him out of the lab to do this
So get that
But ill put him back right after
meow
heres what my blood marrow is like btw, to show u how crazy it gets
WAIT FKKKKKKKK I NEED THATTTTTTTT
and this is p low compared to how much potential there is
ppl get to E100 iirc at endgame
there it is
booooooooooooooook
sure.
ye its the skill u wanna always have max booked
idk I really want to max out eyetent
whats it at rn
mrrrrp
a piddly 135
we got a cat in this server 
lol no I just hit w5
it'll take a while before you can get lvl200 tent, I'd recom bone marrow is much more helpful
damn you beating the cat
animal cruelty is mean
XDDDDDDDD
thats the other game with the hats
tf 2 i think
Huh. Neat.
Anyways it's time to start this
lol yes, its got gambling in the form of hats
it used to be a big market but I dont think its so played now
oh you aree NOT prepared to see the quests XDDDDDD
Goddamn the skill levels 
ive skipped all that with candy
But smiting is the obvious one out of the way
Time to grab a few balooons
Or all of them
ye someone just told me that like 20 ish minutes ago. Seems to be the strat
yep
sources of drop rate guys?
My multi kill is decent in this world and ive got jocund now
i wish i had a jocund.
then i would have had to use half the candy
Just rolled it today was quite surprised
A friend gave me this, may be of help: Not sure where to get more Drop Rate?
From W1:
POP Obols
Crystal Carrot Card
Orion the Owl
Crystal Custard pet companion
From W2:
Drop PO Box
Dice Obols
Cards: Mimic, King Doot
Boss Battle Spillover star talent
Droppin Loads Alchemy bubble
Arcade Bonus 27 (up to 5% DR)
From W3:
Clover Shrine. Chaotic Chizoar Card boosts the effect passively
Midas Minded prayer
Bop Box Card
Equinox: Faux Jewels
From W4:
Shiny Pets: Slime, Xylobone, Choccie
From W5:
Mister Brightside Card
From W6:
Golden Cake
Cards: Minichief, Emperor
Summoner winner bonus 10
From Gem Shop:
Cobalt Robe (gem pack)
Drop Rate Nametag (Limited)
Molten Cape (gem pack)
There is also a multiplicative DR boost for all characters via Archlord of the Pirates.
Not a comprehensive list, but this should give you plenty to work with
took this from sum dude
not mine lol
alr
Oh yeah skill exp potions can help with this quest
definitely slowed down going from w2 to 3
Whats the best class for rifts kill 500 in under 5m? Trying with DK but only got to around 300, im on rift 32
too many to even list, they would not fit in discord character message limit
wow. alr
try ES
Tried that one before DK and it was worse
still 2/3
try bubo
1 event pet, yeah
crazy
i uhhhh dont get it?
it goes: hours, minutes, seconds
oh shoot.
their pc is fried.
so is their eyes.
is pop obol on gigafrogs AFK or active?
active, all obol grind is active
lets see
i personally won't even go for that, I got wayy more than enough xp to max out hole
never enough
I gotnothing else to hourly regarding my prints
awwwwwww man
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if i use a 72 hour time candy, how many obols will i get
prob about 1
since its capped at afk
thats just fcked up.
I don't believe game allows it
hmm im p sure it does. tho ngl ive never rly cared abt afk/candy obols since its dumb af to do that
do active ES and DK and ur good
anotha one down 
I really need that db max plate lvl
my cooky is held back by like 10 lvls
oof get to it smh
200 upgrades away
is "to flags" a different modifer the same way that "player construct exp" is different than "bonus construct exp"?
this is boring ill do pop farms later when i have more DR XDDDDDDD
this is what I usually see
not sure, prob same thing
good question, i legit got no idea ngl
though does not practically matter since you should never be using these
indeed
i wish i could :/
damn this is juicy
thats what he said
I think it maxes out at 60%
oh yeahhhhhhhhh the equinox......
3 more lvls 
i should GStack 20 items now probrably :/
welp
i get about 3 quarters of a bil /hr
time to do
Why are demon genies so good to farm for exp I almost don't wanna keep pushing
its how mob progression works
Man dk clears them so fast I fell asleep and woke up to 30 levels
there was an upgrade for power of 10 these?
Also when can I apply ribbons to my meals
I got the hang of this cooking and pet battle thing
you will still be confused at some parts
buddy who remembers the name of notes
It's not, I'ma add it later
I was a little confused abt what splicing does still
how to complete this quest i used 45 afk landles but it did not completed quest what should I do any tips how to complete this quest
in game hints tab may help
And I haven't been able to get bubo yet since I have to gear my shaman up
running out while ranking up feels so bad
Oh ik what it does now
you need real time 15 mins of afk, switch char and come back to that one after 15mins. Also u mostly wasted 45 ladles
These are treble notes, the one which boosts Snail lv up chance
1.04x per power of 10
Also this deathnote even tho mines is weak it makes getting resources so easy
would be nice, I only get about 6 mail a day, so 2 chances
and damn it got rare
Heyyhoo, someone is able for a player rating with an S pls ? ๐
Can u explain in detail bro pls
what level party starters isa good level to aim for that would cover most of the normal not very long maps?
that was in detail
Idk but I think I didn't add this cuz it was hole related
let a char in there for 15 mins. afk
I'ma add it anyway
Should stay in that place for 15 min
I told you already
To complete my quest
hey how do i complete this?
Be good at CC
Bubo with high CC level/time
lvl 200+ tenteycle minimum
get 100k CC, says it in the quest fam
i just need to know how to do that
i hate how i will need bubo for htis
talent book level luiberary thingy
200+ tent, booked talents, bubo at wurms (last w5 map)
so i get it that way hmm
if u cant reach wurms btw
why
my choice shall be cans when i get to W4l ol
why should i specificaly do wurms?
map size and spawn rate id assumne?
bc its better than all of em?
Bro literally linked the lineup for cc
does anyone know if 3% skill afk gain from blunder is better than the 5% agi from critter baron, specifically for trapping?
for raw cc time its
wurms > samurais > citringes >flombeiges > cans
i dont think trapping is effected by afk gain
id say critter barron is better bc agi effects trapping
hmm i get it and didnt get it at the same time
idleon yappers
it goes from best to worst, left to right
u get more CC on wurms than all other maps, given the fact u can 1 shot all mobs
or should i just shoot for 50?
i should try that and come back
huh
as high as u can lowkey. id stop when it takes more than 24 hrs to lvl up
so 50. got it lol
so if u have 10 mil/h, stop when it needs 240+
neglected 10th char
not what i said but wtv
neglector ๐ฑ
surprising ik right
na
my neglected is BM and hes 6th, and i got absolutely 0 shame
fair
idk how high it gets futher on but im assuming 50 will be around that
finally at world 4 what do i buy on the gem shop?
my BM is booked 
2 richelin and a souped up tube iirc is good. u should have gold hammers and 3d printer already tho
i do.
f u c k B M
did you get dragonic from limited shop?
do i have to?
watch him get masterclass in 14 days
S tier purchase, also rare to appear
aight then
I am proud owner of all dragonics, and not a whale
i am lacking 2
yea im dropping idleon then lmao
bruh i just bought the serenity something pack
solid pack
not best choice, still A tier
gave me 1000 something for pet and got the golem shi that boost damage so im happy with it
its ok we whales stay strong together
DarkRed: 
Also DarkRed: ๐ณ
yall travel in... packs
chance over 100% does nothing?
eh? eh?
okay ill see myself out lmao
also darkred has some packs bought:
nah am good
Alr then
if that worked, these would work too
How to increase construction slots?
?wiki Beast_Master
which means BM can fire 7 entire arrows (most likely not true)
gemshop
I HAVE THE POWER
Gemshop and w3 merit
idk why, my archers have so lil main stat compared to warriors
like a 15-20k difference and idk from where
46 Spore Caps turned to 603
Did u check tab 2 talents?
now do ireally have to wait 2 hours for one food to be able to proceed with world 4?
DarkRed, is ur minimum prog. Early w7 prep?
its late w6 or smth like that, bcs of alchemy
though I put it there bcs I m prepping for w7, not bcs autoreview told me am at that stage minimum wise
And ur maximum is this?
maximum is max, since I unlocked each w6 map, every char
guys my alchemy charged for like 3 years and only got me 3 new bubbles
though the maximum progression shown does not change until the minimum changes a bit too
this fr?
did you use shaman?
get online bubo, its much later
at ur stage, upgrade vials, spend daily water
oh right i forgot about vials
vials to lvl 4 increase shaman dmg
Online..
there is too much stuff to do lol
A new way to say active
my lvl 3 character i left in mushrooms went up to lvl 120 after 3 years of afk there
lmao
chucked him into the lab, is that the right move?
oh thats god sent
my blood bersker is the highest lvl too
u rly can do w4 with amarok now
thats op
yea u could prolly do it naked ngl, like i could see it be done
is there more of these for all the worlds?
check the pins in each world channel
wdym
i forgot what u do with him, i left him leveling for now
u can check the wiki
yes sir
Asking what Abt maestro?
yo my cosmic time candy cant be used idk why
How's this?
Always skilling, till u get a huge class exp boost jump
nice dmg at lvl 160
Lv doesn't matter
Thanks mate
im like lvl 350 with half the dmg
How...?
Cuz lv doesn't matter
idk maybe there is new stuff i havent found yet
no gear and no multiplers lol
Well a bunch of stuff matters
Got access to the Salt Lick, and first bonus is good
Cards, food, alchemy
You mean void?
yeah
That's some good crap but I don't have enough levels to make a void staff yet
Prob something like alchemy, Vault, clickers, PO
Or any void armor, I need to get frigid souls soon
cleanest weapon fr
Or talent neglect
could be sat for like 2 hrs trying to catch up
Scythe looks sick asf
need to do some research
no I only made for w4
btw guys higher dmg means more multilill or is there some cap?
i do like 5k an hour and a portal needs 300k kills on world 4
Yes, I dbout there is a cap
so i need to boost dmg rn
read in game hints tab about multikill
fr
Yeah, try damage potions, some golden food or cards
there is a damage tier cap though
it doesnt cap tho
it was 52x iirc
wait fr?
im using hp potions
i think it gives dmg based on hp
damn didnt know rhat
its the reason why you would use fibers of absence sometimes, for more kph
Then stack that max hp and did both
I at gmush get max dmg tier, extra dmg just does NOTHING for kph
yee i see
Lemme see if I can Do the same
also I got birb, and other coin sources
even at world 6?
do u not lvl them at all then? just lvl up main one?
what kind of level?
I only have bubo in lab 
leveling
class?
all are 525+ besides vman, its enough for now
I only got em to that so they can equip godshard weapons
bubo>
oh i think i get it
and I alr did the lab grind (I got all 3 w6 jewels), so I don't connect em to mainframe for xp gain anymore
cryosnakes? why
statues
Is library character based? Is there an upgrade like golden books ๐ to let the cap go up for all of the specific main classes like statues?
i get 120m of these per hour so I can get a ton more accuracy, and maybe move to clammies
it is character based, many max book sources in the game, best one is sailing fury artifact
how can i get the silkskin frog?
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
you mean the shiny frog?
Yes
place 20min woodem traps on all chars, and for shiny chance level up/unlock what I am about to post
oh guys when I collect traps and worship I do it via the hunter and wizard right? it affects the gain via the quick collection?
Ok
wow getting borger really just unlocked breeding.. went from 49 best score to 124 and still alive



u put traps on vman for xp, and BM if critters. u do ur worship on all, esp on vman so hes highest lvl
Ill try to upgrade those bubbles
he finally died
make sure to do so, they are all MULTIplicative
Ill try but i might be to poor
just a few lvls will be huge
I have 1k gems, for w1 - w3 only, what should I buy? in like an order or maybe the one best needed thing
3d printer
dragonic cauldron from limited shop
Good god
Is the w5 gear for !gear good?
like the chizoar & void setup
Also efaunt armour isnt good right?
it's not that it isn't good, just isn't worth the time grabbing the mats compared to dementia
the stats are fine
play how you want though, I still made a set
u dont need that nowadays
u can easily still do amarok
and reach w6 like that
then after that point u just upgrade and upgrade
so amarok with the latest world upgrade stone?
yes
u can still make it for slab 
u can still make it LATER for slab
yes, it is amazing
some pieces of kruk gear (boss w5 gear) are best in the game for kph
yea ik, I just added the kruk part on top
What does dragonic cauldron do?
read
buffs ur cauldrons
its never broken btw, it does work as intended
descriptions exist for a reason
Liquids dont seem import besides distelled water
they are ALL important
alchemy is the best, most potent skill in the game
And how does liquid and the distelled water show great importance? I have only used it in crafting
Ceramic skull or slush skull?
liquid is for upgrading various things
distilled water can be easily farmed in w3

CERAMIC, slush skull is worse than shop skull
you'll be ditching it really fast anyways. worship early lvls fast
How do you get a lava skull kill in rift?
rng, don't kill all mobs at once
"Automatically deposits all anvil production items, on ALL your characters, from anvil to your Storage Chest"
It does whatever character you log in with after reset, it in fact does not do what it says 
oh dang 1 in 111 is that shitty lol
Is there any uograde or purchase the allows me to use storage anywhere?
thats because you are misunderstanding how anvil production work
worst by far
i can give you example of how anvil production work in lava code
theres no example needed, it clearly says all items on all characters, it does 1 character, thus it does not work 
i claimed anvil, and now my squire been afk for 27hr. during this 27hr. my squire made 0 anvil production progress because i didnt claim afk hr yet. its the afk hr that forwards the anvil production
it does all btw
No it does not lmao
i have vod to prove that it does
even lava explained how it works
I have 9 other characters that would disagree, I dont need a vod
and everyone thinks it doesnt work cuz they all thought it work different on how lava did it
or.. the descriptions just not right lmao
which prayer should i cap out first? dimwit or royal sampler for printing
only when u claimed the afk hr
Does it do all characters : no
Does that mean the descriptions correct : no
whats the confusion here
idc who says what, AoDC is right since he gifted me pets 
u can even test this urself, log in to char before ur reset. hop onto another char and wait for reset happen. it will claim on those chars
do you gaslight yourself into thinking things work 
This is true and has been talked about most of times
i literally said i hav ephysical vid proving it works
Anvil only progresses when you claim afk
Chizoar blanket (imma get it to the green one soon) or the death pendant
incase if u have 9 char with 100hr+ and u active ES and u tried to use siphon, u get 0 charge
thats because they havent been forwarded with afk hr so they remained at 0 charges
things in this game are moved by afk hr when u press claim
i got 12 dr with 1 in 66 crystal, should i start statue farming?
Who doesnt switch to a character at least once before reset?..
you could
So should i use the death pendant or chizoar caustic scarf??
situational
Does your dk can put 2 statues yet?
oh
many ppl accumulate hrs
i would never neglect my alchemy and printer like that
But isnt the caustic scarf better idk? The pendant gives 10% respawn while the scarf gives 5% and also 40% more dmg
just not using the vman talent is insane for me
almost, but i could probably level it up. last time i do library are before i get the island 9 arti
eh printer go brrr is mid for me atm. only use for me is to proc more hrly clicking
especially when you get 9-11hrs per proc
idk my SB who was last logged in 30 minutes before (3 hours since logged in) reset has over 30 minutes of anvil production
(had 4hrs worth of production lmao)
yeah exactly, more hourly, more atoms, more gains
those hourlies add up, and with that talent u can most likely click gmush cap bubble too
theres no real atom sink other than pushing pow10 and those are tremendous amount of atom which not feasable in my eyes
hrly gmush alrdy been a thing since vman speedrun sample
even this is enough to hrly click it
yeah pow 10
without vman talent use? just per 1hr u get enough?
we have so many printing multipliers
yeah ig ur right, I get this with lower print and no winter event or charm
2x from lab, 3x from divinity, 1.25x from charm, up to 1.18x from rift mastery, up to 9x with artifact, up to 2x with event printer, 1.24x+ from dk stacking
How can you check ur merit progression? I did it like a few month ago and forgot does IT or IE show it?
you can check progression right there
it says 0/6, you did not progress
it tracks live
and not retroactive if ur wondering 
what is best class to do tower defense with?
Hunter
Wizard
hunter
wizard is for taking the soul i think but for the stages hunter is best
Should i use BM's ability to collect all the traps or individually?
And which class is best for the Royal worm Clash of Cans quest
hunter for the cc it can provide, if u dont have void towers ull need to kick to separate bosses so your tower can dps 1 at a time. and then u have the aoe root for saving grace
which part
Oh ok, i dont play td much to know lol, when i do i just use wizard
thx
Don't use wizard
use drone if u have, else I'd do BM
Whats drone?
use the bm ability, it's usually better in exp % and ciritter gains at higher levels
construction unlock, first row
Ok, ill check if i have unlocked it or not
Im building it rn
huge QoL
thats what he said
Should i use the ability rn or wait for it to build?
use rn
K
To collect you traps? Yes use the ability
The drone is great for placing traps on all your character without going to the actual spot
Are there any refinery upgrades with interact differently between the combustion and the synthesis or do they all just boost both over all?
huh
pretty sure all the speed upgrades boost them both
Otherwise the ideal salt ranks would not work
When update?
I am really dumb if thats the case
I thought there were upgrades that effected them both differently
well it makes the new chart easy enough to make then
when its done
Never I guess 
You'll never know
I know
god ranks worth going for?
Later on maybe, but not for a while
Read your es talent (the god rank) one
It's gonna take a lot more than clams to stop me. I have a level 50 golblin goblet!
Tho I need to pick up the defense.
Active
Just stuff your character full of food
they will eat a full 7 course meal infront of those clams while fighting afk and be just fine
though other items in the food slots give more damage, for now give them the best food you can and you dont get the afk pentalty
bro......................
Got this dude as free pet from event 
It is untradeable it was pitty
Make em tradeable
Okey

if someone buys it from the shop they can trade that one
Hmmm. What do i feed my lil ES?
In fact checking my info before I posted an updated chart
I found out I had not fully upgraded THIS THING 2 GOD DAMN YEARS LATER
Thank you for making me double check everything
Some yeti ham?
Are you using any defence reducing prayers/starsign?
The max lvl for that salt lick got increased sorta recently
Like in last 2 months
This is an issue. I completley ignored star signs and only got a few W1 ones
Only until pirate booty
As for prayers I don't even use them
Only the one that can summon giants
I understand you dont want sertain curses but when strong eneugh it is fine
Dude i bearly have any prayers
With all the power new players have its very easy to progress super far ahead
old players will tell you your missing out on a BUNCH of things
but dont stress, your main focus is to push as far as you can as quickly as you can
when you hit a wall
and I mean a literal wall they you can't possible get pass
then you turn around go back and focus on mechanics that take a bit longer to get going and build them up for more power
once you have hit world 6 then pushing will no longer be the most powerful boost to your account and you should focus on everything else
follow the vaults upgrade path for a semi guide on what to do next
Yeah you probeply need to lvl towers more to have an easier time 
what is the command for the merit board upgrades
There's a vault guide?
I just upgrade a lot of crap like that
I just need a bunch of money
Maybe i should stop pushing here
The vault is the guide
"vault you get bonus this for money"
it also sorta teaches you what the things do
I have all the upgrades unlocked
Like I said keep pushing if you can
give that character food
get your other characters gathering materials to give that character better armour and stuff
focus on one character and get as far as you can
Yeah a few are very expencive to max 
every town you unlock gives you new sources of power
I am.
Okey the one thing that may be begging for improvement is the rings
Among other things...
Do you want info handed to ya?
or like just specific bits
because I can do the whole guide thing if you want
get some emperor's opals
I need defense
They wouldnt have the party dungeon at that point yet
the best pusher character is divine knight as they give lots of defence and accuracy
saddly your maining the wrong character
what? party dungeon unlocks at world 1
I've heard this 2 billion times
God gods sake
and you can progress it from world 1 all the way to the end
ES is a fine pusher, just needs some food to survive in w4
so your saying someone can afford it on their first clear?
its more they dont have as many runs as most people and getting to world 4 is possible in a week these days I think
K
i'm saying to not neglect party dungeons and start working towards emperor opals
What's that
And where do i get the emperor opals
Dungeons 5th ring
did you not unlock the frog dungeon in world 1?
10k fluerbos a peace
Oh.
Ok shure I'll go do that then
I assumed that diffrent world shops offered other stuff
nah, it's the same for all
Sadly no
They did, but that stopped at world 2
the dungeon ring is now bis and it gets an upgrade at world 6 I think
Wish there was more stuff to spend fluerbos on 
Will the use of auto-clickers, lead to a ban?
I thought of this, when reading the achievment for collecting spices. (I did not do it)
Auto clickers are against TOS
you will get banned if caught using it
(and you can only click spices 100 times per day unlesss you get upgrades)
also when im done with this chart if you want to run a few dungeons hmu I should be able to get you the achivement for them all if you have the runs avaliable
I was gonna say congrats but...
can i turn off my drone from auto collecting the traps? i need to equip my cards and food for max shinyyyyyyyyy 

just 20min silkskin?
I guess you don't have to be on 24/7 now
cap i will still be
account fixing when
i need to active lab now
Damnit
Lol
td neglect
I need some assist here
oh you have 104 runs
ill hit you up when im free
we can farm out the whole shop if you spend the time, but that is pain lol
Okey
@dusty apex
please let me know if this is incorrect
but it might help stop people from asking for the chart
It's just math
idleon efficiency....
1 - i didnt make the originial
2 - holy damn thats a lot more lines going to be more confusing
3 - IE sucks 
same brain
I checked the results and IE's time lines up with ingame timer
either way I had an urge to make this because it was a question I asked and answer and decided I wanted to post this now its done and I can go back to clicking cogs
PRAISE THE RNG GOD'S!
I may be overreacting here but this game is giving me some epic stuff
That's actually pretty decent
there is a premium version which cost real life money
but for free that's a good drop
it's gems, not irl money
True actually
dang, I didn't know it works in TD too..
I do have plenty of gems, actually enough for Crystal 3D Printer!
Not enough for Dragonic Cauldron, though.
Heck yea
So... Should I get Crystal 3D Printer now or save up for Dragonic Cauldron?
Ping me when u are coming to help
depends on how long your planning to play for
The cauldron only shows up in the limited time shop and you want to buy it 4 times so starting the grind now makes it sooner you can get all of them
but the 3d printer ugprade is 100% way stronger than the cauldron upgrade
id say regardless get the 3d printer upgrade for now though
the power it gives your account will let youfarm up gems easier I think any way
In that case...
@flint lily I'm bored, what server
Carrot 4
I'll go for the Crystal Printer
crystal 3d printer is a huge necessity honestly, draconic is also great and honestly would be a shame to miss out, but it really depends on what u want
I need to head out to the shops if your still on when I get back then ill join you and Jio
if u want the prniter, go for it! if u want cauldron, do that then, either way its a good purchase regardless
Obtained!
I see you with the midnight rose
Nice
generally just double up on whatever your already printing
but when you get the salt machine going you may need some characters to print two different things to keep up with its demands
copper and oak to increase skill efficiency of your warrior and mage, and some of your w3 refinery stuff when u start running low on them
mainly ur beastmaster (archer -> elite class in w4) will be printing your refinery items
think it looks good, but no point printing bloach for now
Also my bloach print rate is garbage because it's too low
I do not know what you need just print what you need to get upgrades / get better bubbles
early on resample often as you get stronger and stronger
but once you hit world 6 Id suggest looking up a printer sample guide and get some big prints going when you know how to do it better
World Six?!
Too far away!
I am talking about min maxing print samples
for now its just go out and slap the button dont think about it
but fully min maxing print samples takes 1 hour + easily
and when you hit world 6 min maxing a sample is the difference between like 10% of your full potential and 95% of your full potential
I literally did a sample on two different characters
and one was printing 10 times the other one because I forgot one aspect of the min max
no
NO?!
But I'm just on W3!
its like 1 step away from world 1
My barbarian has printing options of:
Copper, goldfish, blorch, and hermit can
Only got 392 dungeon flurbos :(
drop rate in dungeons is 1/sqrt(x) for x number of players, there's no way I could've gotten enough items
did a bit of farming
sample on every char
equip royal sampler on all chars
Every character?! Wow...
And Royal Sampler?! Dude! I don't have access to that!
after u do that, resample
do TD, go look on wiki from where exactly to get that prayer

Literally impossible to get a bubble to 100+ levels unless I find a way
that way is thru patience, u just have to progress overtime
My Archer or Bust's level is only 17
u will later
with the alchemy discount you can reduce the price of bubbles by 90% a few times a day
once the cost of an item becomes 1000M of that resource + per click Some items can then be upgraded further using an upgrade from the atom colider
first lvl9 I guess I like the vial color
100M*
Prowesessary... does that make me requires less efficiency for more Quantity?
I am back if you want to run dungeons
less efficiency, yes
less eff to hit next ttier
It's only Level 1!
oh ok veiny logs are already done time to switch back to toilet papers
But I can increase it by several levels.
1 to 28, 1.02 -> 1.48
If it requires 100 skill power to get 1 log from a tree
with 10% prowesessary you only need 90 skill power to get one log from the tree
this becomes more relevent when you are over capping the tree in question and getting 100 logs and need 10 million skill power for it
yeah you probably wanna do this if you want more levels on that bubble
292/hr
I thought it didnt affect the initial efficiency to get 100%?
I have 48% Prowesessary, which is real good...
aw it's not ready yet smh
That 1.8k becomes 3.7k
I dont know if it effects that
It doesn't.
now breaking 200m 
yeah it's only for the bonus drops
to be fair you wouldn't be getting a bonus drop if you didn't have the efficiency to hit the tree 100% of the time any way
ye
Idk if I wanna do em now
But i need better crap
did you put food into the food slots for your wizard yet?
you never really get 100% defence against mobs while your pushing
Guys, my construction finnaly lvled up
Boo
Yes
3K yeti ham
That's plenty
buy food from world 4
the more the food heals the better it does for your afk %
I wish i would've known that sooner.
even if you dont have millions of hp the afk survival % counts food that heals your health bar a million times over as better than food that heals it 5 times over
and some foods have a lower cooldown between each use
I am unsure if this lower cooldown plays a part in that calculation
Now I've removed all of the food inside my chest and replaced em with spicy space ribs
The more space I have in my chest the happier I am
I am sorry to inform you that green stacks gives you 3% damage per item you have 1000 million + of in your chest
its a later later thing
but your chests will be full of junk and you will get damage from it
should I pinchy u like u pinchy everyone else
no
Don't be sorry
I already knew that fact lol
10million is a gstack

I'll go for the W3 boss. 20 Million HP...
WHAT?!
It had a shield, but I broke it easily.
Now I have access to World Four!
Put all characters in Lab except pusher now, right?
Well, I'll put all characters now
how do u get the cape?
is it talking about the wings?
where do u get them from again?
divine scarf from crafting
My sample size is almost 30%
And I'll probably need to upgrade and update my samples.
err
card lv is not card's
1 lv 5 card is still 1 card
go to world 4 and open your cards list
and make sure your doing so on steam
sometimes it takes em a bit to register and the triggers to update are always a bit weird
why world 4
Sorry world 3
ok
that's where the achivement is located so I assume it gets "checked" there
no it's still stuck at 40
it is
im not gonna get that anytime soon :D
remembered this exists today
from 15x to 117x so far today
i think i just need to rank up my red salt one more time and then rank up my explosive salt, then i should be good
pretty good here
power per output should match or be higher than the salt ur using to make the next one
make sure to sample void ore and use the automation arm to smelt it
yeah
try buying some fuel daily for some extra bars
im at w6 and i still dont know how forge works... im so miserable
u just leave it be ngl
not really
Somehow I can't get a single Giant eye to spawn
check this
See? Only a matter of time

1/30?!?!
out of easy ones 
There are things to reduce it
Unless there is some way to increase your Giant chance, you can't do that!
2.4m salts while im barely making 5k... absolutely shamelessw
WOOOOOOW AFK A PERFECT TIME
can any OG player talk with the developer, quests should be fun ?
Those both increase your odds
Feel there are 2 other small bonuses else where
i think thats enough idleon for today
just 10k more...
How long the 22h 52min one?


