midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[full beacon]

since you end up with 2 dk's and 2 es's I just have 1 of each of them doing mobs and whatever

[frail spade]

Alright thank you!

I might be dyslexic 😔

[full beacon]

tbf I legit didn't know what you meant, thought you were cracking a joke that went over my head

[odd obsidian]

or you could give them a skilling build to produce more resources

[full beacon]

I should prob do that for vials, but I'm lazy about resampling

[frail spade]

I've been trying that for the wood guy

[ebon pilot]

I just got to w4 what skill should I prioritize?

[austere nimbus]

If u press D here on pc ur character does something weird

[austere nimbus]

Pushing I think

[full beacon]

lab and pushing

[austere nimbus]

get elite classes

[ebon pilot]

Ok thanks 👍

[turbid stump]

Lab is very important thing, get all you chars except pusher in lab, and push to the genie map (4 or so) to get elite, after got it swap chars and get elites for all chars

[full beacon]

lmao

[austere nimbus]

funni

[turbid stump]

Yeah sometimes such happen, but at least you able to stop it

[round pulsar]

was it dk sb and es you wanted to have 2 of

[strange prism]

guess you were right

[sleek bane]

rng comes around trust

except for my collectible rng apparently, i just got another unimplemented one

[turbid stump]

Two dk is 100% optimal thing, second sb and es is a suggestion

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

👋🏿

[turbid stump]

Found a pic of my prints 3 month ago, remember being happy for it

Hi bean

[brave cove]

hi bean

[mint rivet]

damn that was me a year ago too

[round pulsar]

ok
(me who still hasn't promoted the first squire:)

[turbid stump]

Nostalgic

[mint rivet]

anotha wow

[strange prism]

Rip no pulls first rotation since unlocking ender captions

[round pulsar]

ok 1k flycicles sampled ok maybe it won't be as painful for now :clueless:

I also haven't done wispy logs at all but lab bonuses too good 🥲

at least 8th character should allow me to get the chopper out

[zenith hare]

smh

[honest cradle]

well time to start unlocking vman

[turbid stump]

W5?

[grim zenith]

why cant i teleport in w4?

[turbid stump]

You need to manually get there first on that char to be able tp there

If you unlocked w4 with one char and hadnt been there on other ones

[grim zenith]

I've been to those maps on this hcar multiple times

[honest cradle]

do you have teles left

[mint rivet]

my sb has too many pts

[turbid stump]

Are you not out of tp accidently?

[grim zenith]

I unlocked all this on this char

Have to walk back every time

teleport works on every other world

[mint rivet]

w4 is not special, you can do it there too

[turbid stump]

Use bottled tp if normal not work, always tp you to town

[mint rivet]

this is gonna be tough to get out

[stiff urchin]

Guys, what is the good pet spice setup for W4 spices?

[mint rivet]

+1 gstack

[mint rivet]

to battle or to gather

[unkempt nexus]

Hi, I have a question... What am I supposed to do here?

[cursive zealot]

what the heck is the computer all about in w4 i keep looking at it and then running off to avoid thinking about

[stiff urchin]

To battle

For unlock W5 spices

[mint rivet]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[mint rivet]

maybe this can help

[mint rivet]

the computer is lab

[modern gate]

Duuuudeeeee.. How am I gonna get tons of nullo salts when im still struggling at green salts

[mint rivet]

I am bouta get like 300 lvls

[mint rivet]

stop neglecting refinery

[modern gate]

Im not????

[strange prism]

300 lol

[stiff urchin]

I have use the sheet before. But it still not strong enough to defeat W5 spice area

[mint rivet]

only got 21 lvls

[mint rivet]

idk, are you

[modern gate]

Im just doing what i can

[turbid stump]

Do you have omni per chance?

[cursive zealot]

[modern gate]

Omni?

[turbid stump]

Omnihau god

🐘

[modern gate]

I can unlock him if I want to

[turbid stump]

Do it

[modern gate]

I need like

[turbid stump]

Its gamechanger

[modern gate]

60k points???

[mint rivet]

do you have pocket divinity?

[modern gate]

Whou doesnt

[turbid stump]

Your refinery will go much better with it

[modern gate]

+refinery arcade bonus

[mint rivet]

you maybe

[modern gate]

Since when was I the type of person to neglect shit

[mint rivet]

idk what u do

[modern gate]

I sent my refinery speeds

[mint rivet]

does not tell me much

[mint rivet]

yeah ur refinery is fucked

[strange prism]

stop ranking orange - blue

[mint rivet]

fix that now

[modern gate]

yeah judging by the reactions something aint it

[mint rivet]

you neglected refinery

check pins

[sleek bane]

holy shit higher blue than orange

[turbid stump]

You consuming way more salts than producing

It will be shitty long to fix

Get elephant get you fixed

[strange prism]

you want the salt above to make more then the salt under needs

as an example, my red makes 65 per cycle, while my orange requires 60 (mine isnt great but to get the idea)

[modern gate]

I was doing bravery jail anyways soo

[turbid stump]

Bravery can wait

[mint rivet]

+1 gstack

[turbid stump]

You aint braving enough with such refinery, get yo omni

[mint rivet]

woah new ability in wisdom

[round pulsar]

I need to rank up the refinery cycles but I keep using salt so I need to refine mid-cycle all the time 😔

[sleek bane]

better to just wait for rank up

[mint rivet]

you know what that means? you refinery is fucked aswell, and you neglected it, OR you used all your salts on other stuff

[round pulsar]

its barely been 3 weeks since I started give me a break 😭

im trying to speed up the cycles so orange salt goes bye bye

[mint rivet]

go check pins

[turbid stump]

Your red salt isnt on autorefine? I hope its not

[round pulsar]

it's not

[mint rivet]

time to continuethe biggie grind

[round pulsar]

but the rank is low

somewhere around 6 I think

[strange prism]

theres a few way to increase it

[mint rivet]

more than a few, that ss has all I believe

[round pulsar]

ok nvm maestro ability procced like 4 times time to make the void net and then afk

[strange prism]

[mint rivet]

[round pulsar]

yeah uhhh

[strange prism]

need divine knight

[round pulsar]

ok I will do it in the afternoon or sth then thanks for the info

I thought dk was gaming though

[strange prism]

hes gaming and refinery for family buff

[round pulsar]

ohhhhh ok

my squire is level 65 though aaaaaaaaaaaa

[mint rivet]

that was so random

[round pulsar]

I guess I need to do more stuff

[strange prism]

Im not sure which shine counts for refinery

[round pulsar]

ok time to afk more at flycicles ✅

[mint rivet]

huh

[strange prism]

oh its shinies my ss is tiny

got ~item~ from purple spot in arcade and it was only 100 jellyfish, rigged

[mint rivet]

new gstack!!

[mossy anvil]

[mint rivet]

finally!! 2nd 72hrs

after 255 biggies

[olive pendant]

I just unlocked 3d printer, where do I get the star talent to take samples?

[round pulsar]

ice cream guy quest

[olive pendant]

ok, ty

[round pulsar]

yw

[modern gate]

why biggie?

[turbid stump]

Why not

[mint rivet]

bcs I had many eyes stacked up

[modern gate]

btw how much time will it take me to get all w2 statues

[mint rivet]

prob 2 days

[turbid stump]

+depends on you crystal chance

[modern gate]

2 full days?

[mint rivet]

yeah most likely

[modern gate]

I mean, considering I have 4* poop and 5* genie...

[mint rivet]

5 star that poop

[modern gate]

cant

[turbid stump]

If its around 50-70 its ok

[mint rivet]

5 starifier

[modern gate]

Also cant upgrade this any further

[turbid stump]

If more than 70 not very good

[modern gate]

Dont have that either

[mint rivet]

buy it

[modern gate]

no

[mint rivet]

your loss

[modern gate]

uh huh

[sleek bane]

what is even the point of leveling this up

just so it doesnt get hit by nblb?

[turbid stump]

It taked me around 15h to get 20k bug statue with 12dr 1 in 56 cc, other stautes not that much thought

[mint rivet]

that too, also am on my 90% and 1k+ linear arc

[sleek bane]

oh so you're 90%ing everything, not just useful bubbles ic

[mint rivet]

book one hardest by far

well everything I can

[turbid stump]

Yeah, i aint farming it for now

[mint rivet]

the farming ones I can't even get close to atom range

and I won't atom em either

[sleek bane]

farming stinky

[mint rivet]

HOLY

I just gained 4 72hrs candies from 20 biggies!!!

first 225 biggies gave me 2 only

this is insanely lucky

[zenith hare]

1/3334 * ur dr

is one

[cyan sequoia]

whats a biggie?

[strange prism]

w2 mini boss

[zenith hare]

biggie hourglass

[cyan sequoia]

also did I understand correctly that I need to recruit 2 other players to be able to spawn doot?

[zenith hare]

for the first time

[cyan sequoia]

this have to be people that havent done it before or just anyone willing to help?

[zenith hare]

anyone can

[mint rivet]

it attempts to drop once?
also for refernce, first 200 biggies gave me 1 72hrs, then 20 biggies gave me 4x more, 40x difference

[cyan sequoia]

I'mma farm this fella to ruby before doing doot

[mint rivet]

for first time, yes. Or spawn doot from golden egg

[zenith hare]

afaia yes all candy types try and drop once

it's why you get multiple candy types

[mint rivet]

300 biggies so far, how good/10 would you say the rng is?

[zenith hare]

what's ur dr

[mint rivet]

48.66x dr, 600+ orb each

[zenith hare]

really lucky

both for 24 hrs and 72 hrs ofc

[mint rivet]

there was a point where I had 64x + more 24hrs than 72's

anyways time to continue

barely over half done

[zenith hare]

multipliers between mean nothing until you're out of runs

also make sure you have bone Joe's on hand

[mint rivet]

298

I am gatekept by daily shop, not dmg

600+ orb is pain

can only do about 20 biggies at a time

[wary cedar]

Hey I have my max book levels at 290 and I need only the last form from the last artifact. But the math doesn’t add up do you guys have any idea what I might be missing?

[mint rivet]

pristine charm

[wary cedar]

Why is it not on Idleon wiki ?

[flint lily]

I FEEL LIKE A GOD

I finally reached the big 10M on damage

[zenith hare]

you aren't >:3

also are you only in w4?

[flint lily]

Yeah

I'm omw to get taundra logs

[zenith hare]

10x damage needed

[dense pine]

shebatsu solos

[flint lily]

For better weapon

[flint lily]

Who?

[dense pine]

10x? i did w4 with 400k

[flint lily]

Dear god

[dense pine]

god in game

[mint rivet]

piss dmg! congrats

[flint lily]

Is this smth do to with divinity

[mint rivet]

idk why that color is so ugly to me

[dense pine]

yup

[flint lily]

And thanks bean

[mint rivet]

ANOTHER 2 72hrs

[flint lily]

Woah whaz

I still have 1

[mint rivet]

first 200 biggies-1 72hrs, next 118, 7 72hrs

rng in a nutshell

[flint lily]

Lol

Anyways I'm actively slaughtering rams rn

[mint rivet]

btw reminder to do ur biggies

[flint lily]

I need those taundra loggies

[mint rivet]

lava alr nerfed doot gems

[flint lily]

Biggies?

[zenith hare]

as in now at 4?

[flint lily]

Ok ill kill some

[zenith hare]

or full gone

[mint rivet]

at what

[zenith hare]

4 gems per kill instead of the insane 9

[mint rivet]

you no

[zenith hare]

they're fine to

they get 2 a day

[flint lily]

What

[zenith hare]

they're being dumb

[flint lily]

Why not?

[zenith hare]

you have 0 reason to not

[mint rivet]

nah

yuyu you are w4 right?

[zenith hare]

it's better to get higher Dr beforehand, but next update could nerf em again

[flint lily]

Ja

[mint rivet]

another 2???

[zenith hare]

end of the day, it's 4 gems per kill

[flint lily]

Dang

[reef oak]

Best pet combo for boss/arena battles? Still at spice 17 for new meals. Been stuck for like a week now.

[flint lily]

Wait

How are you slaughtering so much biggie hours

Do you have a lot of water or smth

[zenith hare]

this for 6th slot

[mint rivet]

you got 2 options:

1. do them unoptimally with like 200 orb and low dr atm
2. wait for w6, get some bjp, do them optimally with boomerang clearing map (i think its talent lvl 350+), but risk them being nerfed

[mint rivet]

there is a guide on yt

[flint lily]

So I can't do it rn?

[mint rivet]

u just spam (but not random) drop eyes

you can, but not optimally

[zenith hare]

then use this

[zenith hare]

I never do it optimally as my pc lags the fuck out of itself when idleon is open

so dw if you do it with or without orb

[flint lily]

What orb

The DK orb??

[zenith hare]

yeah

[mint rivet]

this is what doing it optimally for maximum orb gain looks like

[zenith hare]

tldr: it's a Dr multiplier

[flint lily]

Ok i think i can guess what this strat is

Use orb to get crazy high drop chance
Use boomerang to exploit this mechanic
Summon biggies
Profit

[zenith hare]

every 100 count on orb, you get a +1x multi to ur effective dr

and yeah, it works on minibosses

[mint rivet]

300 orb is 4x

i do them with about 50x dr and 600 orb, so about 350x dr

[flint lily]

Hold on

[zenith hare]

which makes the 72 hour candies a 1/10 chance

[flint lily]

Doesn't the biggie hours summon item need the silver bag that you can only buy once a day

[zenith hare]

3 times a day

[flint lily]

Huh

[zenith hare]

base is 2 times a day

[mint rivet]

id if he's able to craft all the eyes

[mint rivet]

it needs eyes

[zenith hare]

when you reach w5, you can get +1 on all shop items via shop cap increases

[mint rivet]

craft them from anvil tab 2

[flint lily]

Okey

[mint rivet]

i believe u also need stamp

just a low lvl stamp

[zenith hare]

yes but only at like 50

very easy to reach

[flint lily]

Probably another one too from the stamp if you spend enough tapes and cash on it

[zenith hare]

nah

it's out of the soft cap bonus range

would need a stamp level of like 1k on that stamp alone, if not higher

[hearty parcel]

My 3d printer is broken. The 6x effect isn't there anymore

[mint rivet]

stamp is not linear

[zenith hare]

visual only

[mint rivet]

check if connected to harriep and lab

[hearty parcel]

It should be purple,no?

[zenith hare]

it is working, it's just a bit buggy to update most of the time

[hearty parcel]

I did

[mint rivet]

if u are, its a visual bug

[zenith hare]

meaning you are getting the 6x even if it shows 3x or smth

[hearty parcel]

Ok, thanks

[mint rivet]

woah! another 3 from 20 biggies

[zenith hare]

as I said earlier, it's a 1/10 for you

[mint rivet]

1/10 per biggie?

[zenith hare]

so that checks out

ur effective Dr makes it a 1/10

[mint rivet]

you know what does not check out? 1 72hr from first 200 biggies

[zenith hare]

that's called rng

[mint rivet]

it fucked me over

[zenith hare]

so rn, you're actually very far behind on 72 hrs you should have

[mint rivet]

yep

should have about 36, and I got about a third

[zenith hare]

eh

could also be you were doing it wrong

[mint rivet]

how

I was getting 600+ on each

(orb)

and had same dr

[flint lily]

Just done W4 colossuem, it's neat that I can get stuff that I cant normally get yet

[zenith hare]

just don't rely on it~

[flint lily]

Yeah i know

[zenith hare]

also fyi: always do all w1-4 colos on dk

as orb works for the chests

[flint lily]

Of course dk

[zenith hare]

...minus for w5-6 colos anyways

[mint rivet]

gems from chesst not affected by orb/dr, right?

[mint rivet]

huh?

[zenith hare]

yeah I think

[zenith hare]

w5/6 has orb multi disabled

so bubo is best for points

[mint rivet]

bruh

[zenith hare]

I think db is close tho

so technically db is best due to great aoe and gold food bonus talent for more dr

and ofc gold food bubble is multiplied

[mint rivet]

I will go with bubo whenever I do it since best mob clearing

[flint lily]

Da git my chest is full again

Even if I keep out the tiny stuff

And junk

We need MORE storage

[mint rivet]

you*

[flint lily]

Yes

There may be some easy ones I can get

[cyan sequoia]

missing vendor chests no?

[flint lily]

What are those

[mint rivet]

ones u buy from shop

[mint rivet]

fix ur chests

chest 1 and 3 not gotten is crazy

[flint lily]

Please tell me WHERE to get them

[mint rivet]

wiki

i got no clue

[flint lily]

Oh

[cyan sequoia]

the summoning doublers worth getting if it eats all my event points?

[mint rivet]

i would get trimmed slot first

[cyan sequoia]

I have 3

[thin wind]

does this do anything?

[thorny zinc]

is this rare?

[mint rivet]

nah

just uncommon

[thorny zinc]

makes sense

[thin wind]

finally made it here, this is really good right?

[mint rivet]

hello there

[thin wind]

Pancakes are so good. gave me tons of PX to make it to this node

[mint rivet]

yep

[thorny zinc]

i have the drip of the gods now

[mint rivet]

last batch of biggies!

[thorny zinc]

how many biggies in total?

[mint rivet]

ALL BIGGIES have been done

that took hours

[mint rivet]

guess

[thorny zinc]

hm

247

[flint lily]

Gg

[cyan sequoia]

can u respec summoning doublers?

[hard thistle]

I hope this much hampter is enough

[zenith hare]

yes

[zenith hare]

only 1400 needed for weapons

[mint rivet]

hm

[hard thistle]

What about bags?

[zenith hare]

you only "need" 1

being on vman

[mint rivet]

hmer

[zenith hare]

everyone else can suffice with void or starfire

[round pulsar]

k good enough for now

[mint rivet]

dementia'd biggie!

[thin wind]

equinox fishing gives crazy levels huh. Are all equinox resources great for xp?

[mint rivet]

FINAL BIGGIE RESULTS

@thorny zinc it was 547

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

547💀

[zenith hare]

reminder, red has low dr

[mint rivet]

i am at about 50x

I would call that low compared to u

[zenith hare]

imagine 2x that

[mint rivet]

lemme calculate all the hours

[hard thistle]

Time to farm W5 boss

[zenith hare]

plus likely +50 on orb

[mint rivet]

yeah i left my knights there

[cyan sequoia]

[thin wind]

this is going to be huge!

[cyan sequoia]

rate my death note

[mint rivet]

holy shit

13.5k HOURS

[zenith hare]

from 180 days of buying

[mint rivet]

this was before biggies

after, some math does not add up

oh I see a mistake alr its x4

[exotic swallow]

On what i gonna use

[mint rivet]

huh

[zenith hare]

how long did it take you

[mint rivet]

to do 550 biggies?

[zenith hare]

ja

[mint rivet]

about 2hrs-2hrs 30mins I believe

[zenith hare]

smh

[round pulsar]

ok thats a bit better

[mint rivet]

though now I feel filthy rich

[round pulsar]

thats because you are

[mint rivet]

I can chip gamba since I still need some doublers

[zenith hare]

(he aint)

[mint rivet]

u can't be talking meme while u got less candy

[round pulsar]

im 1 gem off from premium 3d printer ok game

time to balloon a random skill

[zenith hare]

we both know whatd happen if i were to do my minibosses

[exotic swallow]

Mb on what u gonna use

(Phone)

[mint rivet]

how many u got?

[mint rivet]

0 ideea

[exotic swallow]

Candy click

For days

[zenith hare]

like 100 biggies, all my weeklies, and ofc doot

[mint rivet]

over 500 doots?

[zenith hare]

and i have an alright stockpile of candies anyways

recently used doot

[mint rivet]

what is your total hr amount

[fading mulch]

what is the best character to get cooking clogs with

[mint rivet]

ES active

[fading mulch]

can i ask why

[zenith hare]

small amount

[zenith hare]

the wormhole gives really good additive dr to all wormhole kills

which early on can up to +50x ur effective dr

[mint rivet]

you would NOT get close to surpassing me if you did your minibosses

[exotic swallow]

That means u use them

[zenith hare]

youd be surprised

[fading mulch]

dk give dr also

[zenith hare]

also i do actually use em

[zenith hare]

its multiplicative

[fading mulch]

thx

[zenith hare]

dk is only better at base drops at ab 30x dr or so

ES is better for base drops beforehand

[thin wind]

are cooking clogs rare? Or do you need more than one pair

[zenith hare]

troll boots

[exotic swallow]

Not rare

[mint rivet]

huh

[zenith hare]

yeah dk gets better then es

on a decent map anyways

[exotic swallow]

Dk on top

[thin wind]

ah they're used for crafting troll boots? I haven't been able to unlock any troll gear yet I think

[zenith hare]

unless its an utter trash map, late game dk does almost everything

[thin wind]

been a little lazy on unlocking portals to boss on enough characters

[exotic swallow]

Dk on top

[thin wind]

Dk on top

[mint rivet]

cya every1, I gtg

[thin wind]

Night bean man

[mint rivet]

👋🏿

[exotic swallow]

Nah not night

[thin wind]

it's 1:35 am for me, but I guess not for others lol

[exotic swallow]

Duh

It 11 am for me

[thin wind]

crazy, good morning

[exotic swallow]

Bro

I woke up at 6 am

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246596618321526837/1329405969133735956/attachment.gif

[thin wind]

I wake up at 5 am on workdays but otherwise I stay up until like 2 am and sleep until like 10

[night oracle]

considering it needs nullo salts likely won't for a while

Unless your salts are already high

[thin wind]

nah

Thanks for the info though

[night oracle]

I think it close to 2k for a full set? not 100% sure though because I don't have all unlocked

[thin wind]

like 8.6k for full set

[sleek bane]

it's like 10k for a full set lol

[zenith hare]

9.15k

[sleek bane]

yea close enough

[thin wind]

somewhere from 8.6-10k

[night oracle]

Wait what?

[wheat cove]

eyyy, im here

[night oracle]

I thought it was like 750 for the legs?

[sleek bane]

750 for boots, every piece is more expensive than the last

[wheat cove]

anyone figured this out yet?

[sleek bane]

by over double

[night oracle]

Wait wth

[thin wind]

W7 stone probably

[night oracle]

That's a png

[wheat cove]

wait..... i didnt think of that

[sleek bane]

surely not another sneaking gem

[zenith hare]

its not w7 stone, itll be an IoU for ages

[exotic swallow]

Sneaking gem, or jar

[wheat cove]

XDDDDDDDD

[zenith hare]

w5 boss gem was added when w6 was released

so unless next update is exactly w7

[exotic swallow]

Dont think this gem would fit emperor

[zenith hare]

the gem is based on next world theme

[cyan sequoia]

what cards would the 5 star cardifiers be worth using on? The cake we get from current event I think?

[zenith hare]

hence kruk being such a bright colour

[zenith hare]

no, crystal chance, and most w6 cards are a must

[cyan sequoia]

but I can just farm poop & genie to red?

[wheat cove]

yessssssssssss, lets go!!!!!!

[zenith hare]

genie fuck no

poop is a maybe

genies card chance is fucked and is 10x rarer then it should be

[cyan sequoia]

there a level above this?

[zenith hare]

no

[wheat cove]

got a 100%, now all i need to do is save up the divinty points

[night oracle]

Do you need to 5* cardify with gems to 5* a card?

[zenith hare]

yes and look at how much youve killed alr

iirc its like 12k for 5*

[hard thistle]

Should I wait or level up my measurer

[zenith hare]

before rift 46 yes

[ember vector]

guys am i the only one thinks the maestro transfusion skill is useless

[thin wind]

is card drop rate a good stat?

[night oracle]

Ahh I see

[zenith hare]

up to you

[cyan sequoia]

so I should just 5star cardify that and go farm something else?

[zenith hare]

its a stat :3

[zenith hare]

yeah

[zenith hare]

youd be the only one

trapping, worship both only wants skill xp on vman

[cyan sequoia]

and this wouldnt be worth using 4star cardifier from 3 to 4 and then from 4 to 5?

[maiden berry]

what does the fence yard do in breeding?

[zenith hare]

and when you get multitool stamp, you will get 100% skill eff needed on all nodes anyways

[ember vector]

it cuts back too many efficiency on my vman

[zenith hare]

90% sure the game tells you, but if you put breedability pets or shiny pets, you level up their bonus

[zenith hare]

..even on the skills that do not need skill eff?

[cyan sequoia]

likely u dont have the mechanics unlocked yet

[zenith hare]

also, as i said, multitool makes skill eff not really a focus

as xp is only given for between 0-100% skill eff. nothing higher gives more

[grim zenith]

Just finished W4, am going to be away for a month, whats best to leave my guys afking on?

[zenith hare]

divinity

[ember vector]

til i was doing the mining and found this skill makes my mining chance too low to gain full xp

[zenith hare]

yes and mining isnt the skill it should be used for

nice

[hard thistle]

Should I atom this bubble?

[zenith hare]

yes, if you want

[exotic swallow]

Autoreview tells u so

[cursive galleon]

im like 4000 balls away from maxing monument 😭

[exotic swallow]

I can give u balls

[edgy trail]

ayo

anyways is there a way to get a doot quickly?

if ur ftp

[exotic swallow]

P2w, get tradable samurai

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246596618321526837/1329405969133735956/attachment.gif

Idk if u can get it with exclusives

[maiden berry]

should i focus cooking or farming zow on berserker?

[thorny zinc]

was this one the best talent bar for cc?

[zenith hare]

you should never afk cook till ab 500 ladles a day

[zenith hare]

yes that looks right

[thorny zinc]

okay thx

[zenith hare]

even then, do it like once a month

[maiden berry]

k thanks

[night oracle]

Would it be bad to reset opals and throw them all into explorer?

[molten river]

Do whatever you want bb

[night oracle]

Fair tbh

[exotic swallow]

Is w7 a lgbt world

[turbid stump]

Ok i see now why w3 statues recomended to farm last, they drop even uglier than skill exp statue lol

[exotic swallow]

I love chees

[stiff vigil]

what rank should i push these to since i know they're at very bad level ratios

[turbid stag]

Just keep pushing red and sooner or later you will feel like the other salts feels nice to rank up.

[dusty apex]

enough with the cat pics, if you want to keep posting pics of them do it in #off-topic-chat

[exotic swallow]

Understood

[thorny zinc]

this shit is scaling so fast wtf i got to T already

[zenith hare]

thats what exponential does

[open creek]

Are sample species locked forever or can I reset them somehow? Couldn't find the answer on the wiki unfortunately. I tried to get the Canned Hermit as a sample, but now it seems my 4 available slots are now locked into fish :(

[zenith hare]

click this

you can then trash the samples you have when you click on em

[open creek]

Now I feel stupid, I thought I looked at the whole screen (but missed the floating box ha ha ^^")

[zenith hare]

dw it happens~

[sly nova]

When update?

[flint lily]

Hey guys does it look good so far

[zenith hare]

you can reach kbs

1. make the line as straight as possible
2. that 2nd char can reach the 2x printer thing
3. insert one more char inside, no reason 3 chars should be outside lab w4 time

2 is a maybe, one being j/mman, other being main pusher

unless you dont have their elite class ig

but other then that, yes looks good

[flint lily]

Ok

My Man is collecting cards

But i think he did enough

[zenith hare]

hopefulling skilling cards

his main goal is to out skill everyone else in all w1-3 skills minus const and alch

for the right hand talent

[flint lily]

Uhhhhh

Bad news for u then, all he has done is looting right now,

[zenith hare]

well move him to skilling

its how he scales in damage too

[flint lily]

I didnt even do any skill yet or started working on Maestro because goldirc's cancerous quests

[zenith hare]

doing it now doesnt harm

and now you have elite classes, goldric should be easy

[flint lily]

Ok

I'll start collecting portraits then

[zenith hare]

look on the wiki for easiest source of em

[flint lily]

Also is this better?

Time to insert the jman

[thorny zinc]

is good but if you push try going for skull bonus

just add another character and should be fine

[flint lily]

I am

[thorny zinc]

and the other one you can try activate the barn one

[flint lily]

Done

I know this sigil thing is useless rn but eh

[zenith hare]

can always use the extra space to turn on refinery again

and if possible, the barn one

[exotic swallow]

No more cat posting

[cyan sequoia]

this is personal right?

[zenith hare]

yes

[exotic swallow]

Yes

[zenith hare]

sample size caps at 90% btw, as seen in the const skill menu

[thorny zinc]

i can prob go for 75 ez if i get the w2-w3 mats

[true hamlet]

Then.. do it

[exotic swallow]

Then.. do it

[true hamlet]

Your equinox bar had been full for a long time right?

[thorny zinc]

had been full for 1-2 weeks

[exotic swallow]

[true hamlet]

What..

And not done?

[teal finch]

Can the giant monster (for key quest) spawn afk or is it active only?

[true hamlet]

Active

[thorny zinc]

i should prob go for this too

[void pier]

what to do after elites, push w4 and lab?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[turbid stump]

Cog clicking awaits

[thorny zinc]

[turbid stump]

I did it when my last cog were made 10 sec

Taked me few hour

[night oracle]

I still need to unlock my third equinox upgrade ;-;

[turbid stump]

And check if you have enough space to hold that much cogs to swap then normal ones back

[true hamlet]

You active CC and you didn't even hard push liquidvestment lmao

[maiden vortex]

random ahh

just got here

[thorny zinc]

im not active ccing in weeks idk what you talking about

[true hamlet]

Weeks is a lie

[thorny zinc]

its not

[exotic swallow]

Noob

[turbid stump]

Bullying

[thorny zinc]

i have 153E90 mechanics to fix in this game i cant focus all of them at once

[zenith hare]

me when incorrect notation

[thorny zinc]

mb im not used to it that much

[zenith hare]

tldr: its a single digit number always at the front

so 1.53E92 in that case

[thorny zinc]

true

[zenith hare]

i think engineer notation is slightly different? eh theyre weird anyways

[cyan sequoia]

yeah, we're normal

[open creek]

Engineer notation seem to be 3 digits. Though I'm an engineer and I've never used it

I guess they only increment in powers of 3s? pure guess

[zenith hare]

yeah thats what i think it is but like...scientific is just better

[open creek]

I suppose the engineer way is simpler to explain to non-scientific people, like I guess civil/construction engineers might have to do?

[vernal ledge]

Yo, i got this boost with player XP, however, when i move it so both my characters get linked by it. The player XP Bonus wont go up. What am i missing?

[zenith hare]

tbh i find it harder

[zenith hare]

its on the xp on the char itself, not the xp% on the board near buld rate

[zenith hare]

scientifiic is just shift to 1 digit, and do x10^however many digits you removed

[vernal ledge]

ah, but its still BIS to link those right until 1.5k levels

[zenith hare]

even vastly above that you should do so

most of the directional you see is xp% bonus

[vernal ledge]

Okey

[exotic swallow]

Nice cog setup

[zenith hare]

it could be vastly better

i can gain like an extra 50% xp% base on most cogs

[exotic swallow]

Sarcasm

[vernal ledge]

I dont understand how it works tho.
Like this one, what happens here

[mint glen]

I see 1 too many characters

[zenith hare]

its just there for its xp% bonus

its a flaggy rate misc bonus

[vernal ledge]

ok, but the direction it affects, needs to be aligned with a player right?

[zenith hare]

yes, but flaggy rate is useless. treat it as a regular cog

[mint glen]

What is he gonna do with the flaggy rate tho but yes

[vernal ledge]

ok

[zenith hare]

its rare but sometimes directional cogs are better at the base stats then most others

[vernal ledge]

my setup, but i am so new to this 😄

[zenith hare]

you have vastly cheaper flags to unlock

[vernal ledge]

i do 😮

[zenith hare]

namely the ones at the very bottom

[vernal ledge]

lmao

[exotic swallow]

Thats crazy

[vernal ledge]

yeah saw now

[mint glen]

Think of cogs as a expanding to all sides

Equally and you'll find the cheaper ones

[vernal ledge]

ty for that

[exotic swallow]

Think of cogs as repetitive deleting

[lean cape]

What should i do with all these?

[vernal ledge]

i should just delete until i get xp bonus one right, and replace those with my current ones

[zenith hare]

db bones imo

[mint glen]

Monument or bones

[lean cape]

I think i can max both

[mint glen]

Both equally busted

[exotic swallow]

Burrger after

[mint glen]

Death

[lean cape]

What does that even do?

[exotic swallow]

🫃

[open creek]

when will the arcade shift? Asking because I don't even know what db bones or monuments are, so that wouldn't help me progress where I am now

[exotic swallow]

Makes u fat

[mint glen]

At max it's 200% more burger so you get 3 burgers for the price of 1

[zenith hare]

tends to be every other update

[lean cape]

Lowk?

[zenith hare]

and fyi, gold balls is more important anyways

[mint glen]

Applicable on all fast food chains

[exotic swallow]

Yeah, irl as well.

[zenith hare]

awh so close

[exotic swallow]

So far

[open creek]

will the game update as soon as event ends, 22nd?

[zenith hare]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gleaming token]

Is shiny pet collecting like end game content? Because I get too little for splicing and I need a lot 😆

or I'm missing something?

[zenith hare]

its like early-mid game

like early w6 time

[lean cape]

U was talking about ingame?

[mint glen]

It's dependant on how much you spent on breeding

[exotic swallow]

Both

[mint glen]

I don't even have it unlocked yet

[zenith hare]

as long as you didnt completely ignore breeding and cooking, you have all the important ones

[gleaming token]

Because this is my box. Hard to unlock the others

[zenith hare]

thats just due to breeding neglection likely, whats ur latest territory?

(you should have all unlocked)

[lean cape]

What do u call "important ones" in breeding

[open creek]

should I focus on them then? I split mine into afk gains and golden balls, adding a few in fishing, but I saved up a lot

[zenith hare]

shiny level speed, refinery speed, and inf star signs

[mint glen]

Don't split until you max gold balls

[zenith hare]

last one is boop box

[zenith hare]

golden balls is vastly more important

[gleaming token]

I unlock until here but I lack pets for them

[lean cape]

Right.. yea my breeding is hela low

[zenith hare]

look at top pin

fyi, looter is bad

for foraging

[open creek]

I assumed golden ball bonus was a persistant bonus, but it will too shift out?

[mint glen]

I just spam snakes you should too it boosts your power a lot

[zenith hare]

it shifts out yeah

[zenith hare]

no

[open creek]

ah then I'll dump all in that :D

[zenith hare]

snakes is a 5x personal, nutto is a 10x

nutto is straight up 2x better then snakes in every situation

[mint glen]

Nut and 3 snakes

[zenith hare]

no

[gleaming token]

I'm trying to follow this one but I don't have the converter

[mint glen]

2 nuts 2 snakes

[zenith hare]

4 nuttos is better anyways

[zenith hare]

yes and thats only for up to w5 spices

[open creek]

do pets drop from monsters?

[zenith hare]

this is the ABSOLUTE best for fight power

[exotic swallow]

[zenith hare]

get 1 spice to get the new meals, and shift to the one below

after you have at least 1 spice from em, focus on having 100% uptime on em both

[gleaming token]

Hmm ok so I'm probably far collecting. I was hoping to unlock at least until this 2

[open creek]

wait, pets and companions are the same or different?

[zenith hare]

ignore the w2 one

boop box is vastly more important

[zenith hare]

different, pets is a w4 mechanic, companions is a w1 mechanic

[gleaming token]

but the shiny for him is good right?

[zenith hare]

yes but the odds of getting to him is low early on

and boop box has a better shiny bonus

[open creek]

ah I'll ask in the W1 chat then :)

[zenith hare]

its the dog in w1 town

its fine to talk ab w1/2 mechanics here fyi

hell its fine to for w5/6 mechanics too if there is someone who can answer it (tends to be)

[mint glen]

These channels are more of a different community in each then anything else

[exotic swallow]

Yes

[zenith hare]

w1/2 chat is the dam thats to block all the...lets go with brainless questions

[open creek]

I see! I was under the impression that you could only get pets from the doggo, but now that I looked I have more than 1 pet in there (though all dupes of the green cap shroom), So I would guess they drop, but it seems very unlikely that I've only gotten drops from that one mob

[zenith hare]

due to the wish event

[mint glen]

You got it from wish

[zenith hare]

if you dont get a special pet, you get a gmush instead

[mint glen]

You get gmushes on a failed wish

[zenith hare]

idk why, but thats how it is rn

[cyan sequoia]

u do? Would explain why it complained about storage

[open creek]

Ohhh... I assumed it was "failed" as in I got nothing

[zenith hare]

you wished for a gmush :3

[mint glen]

Yeah we all assumed so but

Lava is quirky like that

[open creek]

when you ass-u-me, you make an ASS out of U and ME

[zenith hare]

nou

[open creek]

I do like the humor in the game :) It is very entertaining

[exotic swallow]

Yes, 20$ packs in your face

Lava is funny

[open creek]

yeah that part is a bit annoying that you can't click em away even

[round pulsar]

me when I try to navigate through my storage and I get pack popup that blocks the slots

[mint glen]

60$ for 3 companions that will guarantee you the next banners' meta companions

Because limited is valued over anything so gg

[exotic swallow]

Next comps are in 3 years

[mint glen]

And you know everyone is gatekeeping their 60 bucks for it

[open creek]

Well... it is a free-to-play game, and even developers need to eat, so I suppose that is the now-industry standard

[exotic swallow]

I bought mallay

[exotic swallow]

Eat what

What kind of food

[open creek]

preferbly something over nothing, starving sucks

[mint glen]

5 dollar game*

The F2P is just bait

[open creek]

the auto-loot?

[mint glen]

You mean the base game mechanic?

[exotic swallow]

At least auto mode is free

[mint glen]

Next update it will cost 1k gems

Can't be letting people have fun for free

[open creek]

I mean... I've played other idles where the idle time is capped at 2 hours unless you pay/watch ads, could be worse

[lean cape]

YES FINALLY

Pause

What?

[warped raven]

is dk the best to push through w4 ?

[lean cape]

Arguable

[robust marsh]

yo i have like 3 or 4 of the stuff that say this but i dont see any new po boxes to spend boxes

[warped raven]

what u suggest? 👀

[robust marsh]

i suggest dk or es for active w4 pushing and bb for afk

[mossy anvil]

2nd boxes tab

[nimble atlas]

why am I advised to keep levelling my green salt always, even though it puts blue salt into a deficit?

or will the blue salt deficit only be a problem early game and sort itself out after a few level ups?

[mossy anvil]

Its separate cycle and its slower

[dense fable]

Worship question : To have Charge, I have to KILL monsters with that character?

[nimble atlas]

ah I see. so once I am able to level my blue salt up once or twice I won't have an issue anymore

[mint glen]

Overtime gains

[mossy anvil]

U have to wait till your skull charge

[dense fable]

so I can chop trees and skull charges meanwhile?

[mossy anvil]

Yeah it requires blue but if your 1st page is not fucked up thst much u should be fine

[robust marsh]

where?

[mossy anvil]

No, u have to wait

[mint glen]

Gotta unlock the last order first

[dense fable]

huh? so I can't chop trees?

[mossy anvil]

Sony just have to unlock 2nd tab and boxes will be there. Button will be next to upgrade tab

[mossy anvil]

Tbh i have no idea what are u talking about rn

[dense fable]

the question is, can I do ANYTHING with my character ( Woodcutting/monster killing/afk etc. etc. ) and the Charge goes up ?

[mossy anvil]

Iirc just wait, or upgrade skulls so it charges faster

Rn u are able to summon coz you have 30 charges and it require 25

[dense fable]

so the answer is a "yes" I guess

[open creek]

I just unlocked my 6th character slot 🥳

I see 2-3 options, would be happy for some input.

I currently have 1 wizard, 1 shaman, 1 barb, 1 squire, 1 bowman. Should I:

A1) Make a hunter that will become primary pusher, and retire my barb into a dedicated fisherman since hunting/smithing seem to be an activity not requiring the character locked into the activity,
A2) Make a hunter, and keep my barb alternating between pushing and fishing and make the hunter focus on mining/fishing and hunting?
B) Make another barb that becomes a dedicated fisher so my current barb can focus on pushing, because IIRC we get more than 7 slots right?
C) some other suggestion?

[robust marsh]

and btw when did this drop from 1 in 1000 to 1 in 10

[mossy anvil]

Answer is yes, u can play your character while waiting for charges if its what u are asking

[round pulsar]

Yeah charge is completely passive

Also using candies recharge too

[mossy anvil]

U should do siege breaker

[dense fable]

yeah, ty

I asked it, bc I used Time candy on mobs farming, and I gained charges ( so I thought mob killing gives charges )

[round pulsar]

No it's just time

[dense fable]

ah so overall candies = charges, ty

[mossy anvil]

No, u just skipped time

[mint glen]

Hunting and smithing are in fact not active

[open creek]

I haven't looked into elite classes yet though, is that an archer elite?

[mossy anvil]

Time-charges

[mossy anvil]

Yes its archer

[robust marsh]

it is same with smithing when you do time candy smiting will produce stuff according to time

[open creek]

then I wouldn't have a dedicated bug catcher :(

[mossy anvil]

Killing monsters with archer passive speed up smithing

[mint glen]

2 DKs 1 BB 1 ES 1 SB 1 Vman 1 bubo 1 hunter and last 2 stay as mage and archer

[warped raven]

no wonder i was getting alot earlier lol

[mint glen]

He has no reason to do that this early

[zenith hare]

9th and 10th aint that anymore

[mossy anvil]

Ofc, just correcting missinformation. It can be passive but can be speed up by active playing

[open creek]

I mean, atm I've bushed with barb and had bowman closly behind to unlock bug spots

[mint glen]

Def are I ain't keeping them as beginner

Without any print output

[zenith hare]

9th is es, 10th is db

[mint glen]

Burned take

[open creek]

By passive I meant "not locked into the activity by not killing/pushing"

[zenith hare]

sb hasnt been "good" as 10th for over half a year

[sudden monolith]

tips for equinox?

[mint glen]

It's not about SB

[zenith hare]

thats what the archer is

[random urchin]

any checklist for artifact find chance?

[mint glen]

It's just keeping a mage and archer for future master classes

[toxic quartz]

do the dream clouds idk

[mint glen]

No way in heaven Lol it's just because of the master classes

[mossy anvil]

I mean thst passive-generate stuff by itself without interacting/locking char

[zenith hare]

db afk bones is better anyways

[toxic quartz]

and remember to use your bar

[mint glen]

2 DB is troll until we know the rest

[zenith hare]

for 10th

[mint glen]

4 warriors is a troll take until we know everything

[zenith hare]

no: fact is 2 DB is the current meta rn

[mossy anvil]

I also think that way

[zenith hare]

and also remember: we will get 11th and 12th at some point anyways

very likely after all masters are released

[mint glen]

Yeah next 5 years

[sudden monolith]

what's a green stack

[toxic quartz]

when you have 10m items in your storage

of a single item

[sudden monolith]

wahhh 😭😭😭😭

[mint glen]

Sorry bean but I can't advocate to 2 DBs when there isn't afking yet and we are Def getting better master classes

[mossy anvil]

Poor bro

[open creek]

what is a DB...? Hard to google

[sudden monolith]

so I have to get 10m stacks of 20 items

[toxic quartz]

that one is one of the easiest dreamclouds

[mint glen]

Like having 2 hunters could be meta somehow

[sudden monolith]

death bringer

[zenith hare]

afking is coming out with second master class confirmed

[mossy anvil]

Deathbringer

[toxic quartz]

bb master class

[cyan sequoia]

[undone raft]

how do i even start with this lab thing

[cyan sequoia]

disrespecting my double DB

[undone raft]

do i have to upload every player

[cyan sequoia]

2xDB and not even one is farming bones

[mint glen]

I respect following current meta but when you have to swap due to new master classes it's gg

[toxic quartz]

there are a lot of people with doubts why not move the discussion to #endgame-gen-chat no?

[cyan sequoia]

I kinda doubt lava will make a masterclass respec token

[mossy anvil]

Alr mr fun Police, wait for me there

[void pier]

Yeah it's very poorly explained, you have to upload each player individually at the lab in town

[mint glen]

It's gonna be a base class respect token since you'd wanna swap to an archer

[zenith hare]

hes confirmed that we will be able to reset all of a char at some point in the future

[open creek]

what channel is that? I only see "no access"

[mint glen]

To have the 3/3/3 ratio

[undone raft]

how do i connect, i have 2nd player uploaded

[cyan sequoia]

because this is a community of people beyond the channel name

[mossy anvil]

Endgame talk channel

[toxic quartz]

sorry I just wanted it so other peoples questions dont go unnoticed among the chatter sorry

[mint glen]

I don't know any no access

[cyan sequoia]

so u mean for when all of them have 3 masterclasses

[void pier]

Upload 3rd player and connect them between the prism and the squares

[mossy anvil]

All good, everyone is getting their answers tho

[mint glen]

Yes it might be a 3 warrior 3 mages 3 archers meta

[void pier]

As they spend more time in the lab their reach goes further, at the start you have to upload basically all apart from your main pusher

[open creek]

I am totally for that!

I still don't know what to do, too many opinions so I'll just create a hunter to have one of each for now :)

[mint glen]

I doubt lava will make it otherwise but who knows

[cyan sequoia]

but I have that now with vw as 10th

[mint glen]

Anything to get some money ig

[mint glen]

2 DBs

[cyan sequoia]

yeah

[mint glen]

where is your second DK?

[cyan sequoia]

so u mean the meta will be having basic classes only?

[undone raft]

so when do i start leveling again

[mint glen]

Show your cogs rn

[cyan sequoia]

it doesnt exist

u should ask shadow how good my construction is

[mossy anvil]

After u unlock gods in w5

[mint glen]

I think I'd like to see a pic still

[undone raft]

im in w4 and all chars are in lab?

[mossy anvil]

Get all elite classes then push with 1 char rest in lab

[mint glen]

You should push lab until you get 2x kills and then push stages with 1

[toxic quartz]

leave people in lab until you can reach killer's brightside with everyone but one

[mossy anvil]

Or u can just neglect lab and do what u want but i will have to do it anyway

[undone raft]

i assume push with squire?

[mossy anvil]

Bb

[toxic quartz]

and rotate everyone so they can get their elite classes

bb if afk dk if active

pick your poison

[mint glen]

BB but leveling your squire isn't a bad move either

[void pier]

i swapped to DK push cause it looks more interesting, just gonna have to leave the game running

[mint glen]

You should unlock everyone next class before lab

[mossy anvil]

I personally pushed with all at once and ignored lab a bit, just leaving it afk during night later on

[undone raft]

do i put my journeyman in the lab too?

[mint glen]

Yes he's worthless atm

[true hamlet]

it appears that my DK accuraacy is stupidly low

[void pier]

i'm hard stuck trying to get 15 hoops in a row 🤣

[true hamlet]

just get 90 total hoops

[exotic swallow]

you help them

[true hamlet]

if you aim for 20 hoops a game, you'll get it in a day

[mossy anvil]

Lil bros too young to have experience from flappy bird

[void pier]

other way round

[true hamlet]

you're 60+?

[void pier]

too old and never caught the flappy bird train

[flint lily]

Got the bag of nuts

[mossy anvil]

Thst also works

[flint lily]

This is only the beginning.

[exotic swallow]

Welcome to idleon.

[mossy anvil]

Try jumping while being slightly below bar, instead of jumping in the middle

U are more likely to hit top bar instead of bottom one

[void pier]

Yeah I'll figure it out

No rush tbh I've got so much other stuff to work on in the mean time

[exotic swallow]

findout

we get more stuff to work on every update

[dense rose]

my dudesssssssssssss

[mossy anvil]

What's going on

[undone raft]

damn so 1hr i only get 14xp for the lab?...

[true hamlet]

yeah.. I mean, it gets better later on

[dense fable]

I should focus on Build slot and Printer sample size here ?

[undone raft]

like when my lab lvls are higher?

[undone raft]

food slot

[true hamlet]

there's a lot of lab efficiency and exp% bonuses later on

[dense rose]

when will scratch event end

[mint glen]

Did you read the event

22nd April but you should be checking your settings for the info and you can get 50 presents daily and a free scratch if you collect those 50

[compact pagoda]

@thorny zinc

come yap

[thorny zinc]

?

stop tagging me

[compact pagoda]

what u doin

[thorny zinc]

its 3rd time already today

[compact pagoda]

fake ahh reply

see

not me

[thorny zinc]

i dont want to talk here anymore i already said that

[exotic swallow]

ok