midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[strange flare]

exponential*

[strange prism]

idk dont have it

[mint rivet]

multiplicative

also since ur meals suck

[strange flare]

darkred how long would beefy take

[mint rivet]

for you, hours

[scenic wren]

Also per total level is pretty big when you've got each recipe at 20 or 30

[strange flare]

why hours

[mint rivet]

lineglecter

[strange flare]

fuck it I ain't doing beefy

[surreal spear]

but its +0.66 per meal level shouldnt it be at 36% then?

[mint rivet]

beefy kinda good though

also I just noticed I accidentaly clicked royal sampler sometime ago

[strange flare]

yeah but I dont have hours

[mint rivet]

test it for yourself, idk ur rates

[stable parcel]

is beefy better even after losing dmg from megacrits?

[mint rivet]

no

[strange prism]

so many prayers

[dense rose]

which tower and level unlock that one

[strange flare]

i mean I have a 90 poison

[mint rivet]

why lose dmg from mega crits

[stable parcel]

accuracy drop

[mint rivet]

121 frosty

[strange prism]

would probably take 20-30 mins

[mint rivet]

what does that do again? i forgor

[mint rivet]

should take 10mins

[strange flare]

okay ill get beefy then

just need a frosty setup

[strange prism]

I hate frosty

stun lock mobs

[mint rivet]

gamba time!

[mint rivet]

you do not lose dmg, you lose crit chance

[strange prism]

and you called me a whale what is thsi

[stable parcel]

you lose crit chance which means you lose dmg on mega crit...

[strange flare]

imagine not having a 100 mega crit

[mint rivet]

are you saying that is a whale?

[mint rivet]

huh

[strange prism]

id saying buying jewels is a whale move

[mint rivet]

I am NOT WAITING years

[stable parcel]

over accuracy = crit chance = over crit chance = mega crit = moar dmg*
Lower accuracy = less crit chance = less over crit = less mega crit = less dmg*

[strange prism]

something a whale would say

[strange flare]

do you have a frosty td pic

[mint rivet]

but crit chance does not impact the dmg of the mega crit

[vestal furnace]

Hey should I mine motherlode for the exp on my maestro? If I proc transfusion tho it wouldn't be able to hit 5%

[strange prism]

[strange flare]

as long as you have 200% mega crits you win

[stable parcel]

every crit chance over 100% affects mnega crit dmg

[mint rivet]

GOATED jewel!!! this is amazing

glad I bought this

[strange flare]

send video ig

[mint rivet]

from talent?

[strange prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd5PqKmPPQU&t=4s

[strange flare]

thank god I only need 94% damage bonus

[strange flare]

sheesh this video is too fast

[stable parcel]

from mega crit

[thorny zinc]

damn i love construct mastery

[strange prism]

[strange prism]

oh no

[thorny zinc]

what

[mint rivet]

so ur saying the % dmg bonus displayed on mega crit talent is increased based on ur crit chance?

[strange prism]

just.. interesting

[thorny zinc]

no way i have more levels than you

[strange prism]

not even close lmao

[thorny zinc]

damn you scared me

[mint rivet]

@stable parcel so what is your critchance?

[stable parcel]

idk for sure if that is how the talent presents

[strange prism]

2500 feels impossible

[stable parcel]

741.6%
with those numbers

[indigo stratus]

Farming 10k fish.

[strange prism]

bruh how many times are you gonna send those

[mint rivet]

alr lemme do a low crit chance preset rq

[thorny zinc]

1000 times

[stable parcel]

having a convo here bruh

you can close your eyes

[mint rivet]

656% crit chance

and now let me test a char with other crit chance

idk how I had over 700% yesterday

[turbid stump]

Where you ger mega crit star talent again?😅

[mint rivet]

i need to find out what I am missing out on

[mint rivet]

flurbo shop

[stable parcel]

the talent % stays the same for all chars, it just increases more dmg .

So i guess if over 100% any excess crit doesnt do anything

[turbid stump]

Appreciate

[mint rivet]

if over 100% crit chance?

[turbid stump]

Will need visit it few times then eh

[mint rivet]

yeah so it increases based on level

which means extra crit chance above 200% currently does nothing

[stable parcel]

so losing accuracy won't matter so... your prayer is good

[stable parcel]

seems so

[mint rivet]

96 dungeonic, gross

and dude, max ur shrine talent

each preset each char

[stable parcel]

I ran out of points. I'm money farming rn lol

[turbid stump]

Time for bravery, i hope this time it will be good

[mint rivet]

ima do a lil bit of active DB to get 50 boxes

[magic robin]

What level is it for void plates?

[mint rivet]

too low accuracy?

brb

[strange flare]

improvising a little

[stable parcel]

What a waste of flurbos

[stable parcel]

not sure what lvl u want

[magic robin]

For cooking sorry

[strange flare]

when do I stop spamming new wave lmao

[stable parcel]

22-30

[stable parcel]

wave 254*

[strange prism]

welp red emperor card did not do much

[floral orbit]

Just got bb where do i dumb them talents point for the new tab

[strange flare]

god dammit im about to lose

lost 6 hp

[indigo stratus]

Why is it taking ages to push W3?

[strange flare]

no more spamming

[strange flare]

accuracy issue?

[indigo stratus]

A small one, but that's because of stamps I assume.

[strange flare]

looks like a large accuracy issue to me

also use movement speed potions

[floral orbit]

Someone has an answer?

For afk bb pushing

[strange flare]

man I probably won't have time to speedrun

[turbid stump]

Another ruined run

[fierce trellis]

Huzzah!

[turbid stump]

Bean you said reroll get you back stacked dmg its not

[strange flare]

god why does voidinator suck so much

[mint rivet]

i did not

[strange flare]

probably because it's low level ig

[mint rivet]

gamba time

[floral orbit]

Is there an afk bb build or something

Talent build

[thorny zinc]

[thorny zinc]

ES right?

[mint rivet]

time to get jackpot!

[thorny zinc]

he will add sailing v2

[mint rivet]

yep, though I got em from eclipsing

[floral orbit]

Thank you is there one for the other tabs?

[north oriole]

Jar is Sailing V2

[thorny zinc]

sailing v3 then

[mint rivet]

not sure how accurate, but generally you want to put 1 into active talents and assign to hotbar

[floral orbit]

Aight thank you

[mint rivet]

np

I think I am cooked

[floral orbit]

When i lack acc to push w4 maps i should work my shaqurcy bubble and what others? (If i have full req gear for w4)

[mint rivet]

549 pts...

[strange prism]

master class

[indigo stratus]

Do I push for all Iron Gear for now?

[mint rivet]

only do shaq bubble if it takes u lil time, but also do clickers, vault, stoning gear trick (if you want accuracy for warrior, stone warrior's gear on a mage), prayer, flurbo shop, etc

[mint rivet]

amarok

brb

[indigo stratus]

How long will it take? I do have a lot of items now. I used 2 12 hour candies on Chopping a moment ago for bleached logs.

[icy mantle]

go for kruk

[indigo stratus]

I haven't got helmet yet.

[restive dock]

do the task

[indigo stratus]

How do I get more keys? I have 1.

[strange flare]

oh it's lagging so bad

[restive dock]

finish the quest in all char, they stack key drop per day depend on how many chars done that quest

[floral orbit]

Aight thank you again, didnt know about that trick

[strange flare]

I probably got the prayer by now right

[indigo stratus]

Done! It's time.

[restive dock]

I hate this map

[strange flare]

the speedy snowmen are ruthless

[turbid stump]

I misunderstood this so baaad then duh, got hyped for nothing

[exotic swallow]

if its sailing update with insanely low chances then gg to meme bean saying anything about arti chance

[lucid raft]

is warped helmet worth keeping if inventory is scarce

[strange flare]

what is warped helmet

[stable parcel]

Does IT have a section to see your prints

[exotic swallow]

yes

[strange flare]

https://idleontoolbox.com/account/world-3/printer

[exotic swallow]

check in world 3 of course

[strange flare]

IT even has a search storage feature

[exotic swallow]

p2w way we are going

[strange flare]

why add sailing v2 hen he can add more artifact tiers

[exotic swallow]

with jar collectible chances

0%

[strange flare]

wth

after I clear wave 140 I can forfeit and keep my win right

[stable parcel]

i think so but i always just go till lose.

Delete your towers and let them kill u lol

[strange flare]

oh yeah I can trash them

[lucid raft]

is warped helmet upgrade stone worth keeping if inventory is scarce

[stable parcel]

garbage stone

[strange flare]

oh these

these are worthless

i only have 7, must not be very common

i think the bosses are almost half health

[mint rivet]

just do some bosses, not long

do not get helmet

go with gold/dementia helm instead

[indigo stratus]

Anyone got a active barbarian build to push w3

[strange flare]

that's kinda expensive lmao

[strange flare]

use bm and afk with bb using npng

[strange flare]

ideally you'd active push with bm at least

[indigo stratus]

Okay I'll do it with my DK

[mint rivet]

its w3

[indigo stratus]

[Squire]

[strange flare]

hunter mb

whatever has uwu rawr

[mint rivet]

squire is best for w3 push

[strange flare]

oh I beat 140 nice

[restive dock]

I hate w6 stone upgrade

[mint rivet]

what did u say?

[mint rivet]

why?

[strange flare]

uwu rawr

[indigo stratus]

Is this in order or just a lay out

[restive dock]

6 slot upgrade, 5 fail

[mint rivet]

in order ideally

[indigo stratus]

Mmmm

[strange flare]

can't wait for the totem to shit out more souls than I can carry

[mint rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/aight-bet-aight-bet-cat-gif-25610485

[strange flare]

oh it barely shot out any

[restive dock]

huh how u get 100%

[mint rivet]

gambit, guild

[strange flare]

finally after a year and a half of wanting it I have beefy

[restive dock]

ah f, I realized that i haven't gotten any guild

[mint rivet]

brb

[strange flare]

oml why is it so expensive

[strange prism]

20 hours for some lame statues

[strange flare]

hey

breeding exp is baller

[indigo stratus]

Mhm! Easy to push with Squire.

[strange prism]

[restive dock]

does guild necessary

[strange prism]

not really

[strange flare]

skill issue honestly

[strange prism]

flew through w4 : /

[strange flare]

I only have 22k in storage lol

easy level 100 tho prob

[restive dock]

its nice when over 530hs without any guild

[strange prism]

time to candy to 20k

[surreal spear]

Guys what does bm print? Before he was printing mob drops but vman is printing those now

[indigo stratus]

Is there a warrior tab to go along with this?

[strange prism]

whyd you farm over 40k eggs

[strange flare]

why not

also ima atom the worship bubles next

[strange prism]

feelm like im missing something, or statue farmings just this slow

[strange prism]

op

[strange flare]

w3 bubbles need some love in general

[ruby loom]

Is there a doc for worship setups

[restive dock]

i forgot the command for that

[strange prism]

orange salt bubble at 450 kinda nuts

[strange flare]

god fucking dammit

I did one quick all on my DB and now it's higher level than my vman

[strange prism]

lol

[strange flare]

i hate worship with a passion

got 295m frigid souls tho ig

thank god I got it maxed

is this multiplicative

[indigo stratus]

Is there a doc that shows active builds?

[surreal spear]

I can mine godshard?!?

[restive dock]

nah

[strange flare]

wow it's barely useful

idc ima speedrun now

[surreal spear]

doesnt do anything for me but still cool ig

[strange prism]

my vmans not first in many skills

[strange flare]

I wonder what I should sample on vman tho

[toxic quartz]

bm prints refinery materials and vman prints for vials/bubbles most of the time

or whatever needs lots of materials like stamps

[surreal spear]

oh okay thanks

[strange prism]

[indigo stratus]

[strange flare]

1.5q vman damage now i guess

[indigo stratus]

Is barbarian even good for active pushing mines is almost level 80 and idk if I should regret it

[surreal spear]

still better than my bubbles

[restive dock]

I forgot which website is this

[strange flare]

aight lets see how much higher I get than 24

[cyan sequoia]

soon

[toxic quartz]

looks like idleon toolbox

[strange prism]

wild

[strange prism]

big

[strange prism]

its not bad, either barb or wizard

[indigo stratus]

I should upgrade talent points.

[strange prism]

oh ya

[indigo stratus]

Let's see how long it takes this juiced up barbarian I have to beat w3

Also is it even worth it pushing all my characters to next worlds or keep them farming resources for my main

[strange prism]

wow time

[cyan sequoia]

theres a spirit lock on w6 where u need to have multiple characters at that point

[indigo stratus]

Oh I have more than enough time then

Do I have to unlock death note?

I'm not far in w3 yet but I was planning to farm resources for my main just incase I hit a wall

And I wanna make a maestro soon so I was powering levels for my 7th slot but idk what to prepare

[toxic quartz]

for what

you should of course

[indigo stratus]

So should I keep the others pushing pass w2 or make them farm resources for town skill upgrades and gear for my main

[indigo stratus]

I accidently deleted a really good cog, am I cooked?

[toxic quartz]

no

[cyan sequoia]

I think having levels for the skilling related talents is good

[toxic quartz]

you will have lots of cogs soon

[cyan sequoia]

also elite classes

[indigo stratus]

Once my barb hits w4 I'll push them all pass w3 for the elite classes

[cyan sequoia]

characters arent deletable so u should probably follow the suggested classes thing @indigo stratus

[indigo stratus]

I have 1 of each I made sure that

[cyan sequoia]

unless u dont really care

[indigo stratus]

One of each sub class

Now my last 4 are gonna be maestro ,squire and maybe another bowman

Idk the last but i won't soft lock my self

[cyan sequoia]

think the recommended duplicates last that I read were 2x divine knight, 2x elemental sorcerer, 2x siege breaker

might've changed since I last checked

[hasty yoke]

should I ribbon this one?

[indigo stratus]

Ok so another squire another bowman and another wizard

[strange flare]

damn I ran out of time to sample everything I wanted

@strange prism a tad bigger tho

[indigo stratus]

What do I need to sample?

[strange flare]

4.75m comb samples may not be enough to hourly tho

[indigo stratus]

Aye can you explain how this works

I unlocked it today and idk what it's doing

I assume it's basic resources.

Is it gathering resources for me?

[strange flare]

you take a sample based on your AFK gains, then the selected sample will 3d print that many into your storage every hour

[cyan sequoia]

its 3d printing resources for you

[restive dock]

yes, per hour

[indigo stratus]

OMG

[cyan sequoia]

important for construction in w3

[indigo stratus]

I can be lazy and not have to mine and stuff

[strange flare]

important for literally every part of the game lol

[restive dock]

u got the point

[indigo stratus]

Why didn't I learn this fron the quest he gave me

[cyan sequoia]

true enough

[restive dock]

ALCHEMY

[indigo stratus]

I'm gonna go sample some difficult stuff

[cyan sequoia]

oh no the alchemy gang has awoken

[indigo stratus]

Can it do multiple things or only from that 1 area

[strange flare]

i sure hope I can hourly bob now

didn't help I had to stop and unequip a prayer mid speedrun

[warm grove]

hourly bob??? how may combs are you printing link?

[cyan sequoia]

I should probably do speedruns

[hasty yoke]

should I

[strange flare]

I hope enough to hourly

but probably not

[cyan sequoia]

dunno how many ribbons u got or what ur ribbon income is

[restive dock]

what does this for

[warm grove]

seems a bit far from hourly, unless your print multi is huge

[indigo stratus]

Now is there any method to making this 3d printer better or I can print what ever i need and just upgrade it

[hasty yoke]

i got rn a hopeless rank 6

[strange flare]

probably isnt since I don't have event

[cyan sequoia]

another 50 boxes another no hat

[strange flare]

daily bob maybe

[strange prism]

ayyy thats pretty nice

[toxic quartz]

crystal 3d printer

the gem purchase

[strange flare]

that's tragic

[warm grove]

dang

[toxic quartz]

that directly impacts the 3d printer

[strange flare]

daily bob at least

[warm grove]

wait a few days and you'll have it with the multi

[strange flare]

think so?

[warm grove]

yeah for sure

[strange flare]

or more like a month

[pale thicket]

what does new recipe cooking speed mean? like learning the recipe or actually cooking a new recipe you just learned

[toxic quartz]

but then you have whatever increases hourly gains and sample size to increase jow much you get

[toxic quartz]

learning recipe

aka fire

[indigo stratus]

I'm gonna take some time to understand the w3 town skills my barb only does 80k-200k dps so I think I should be fine to let them be afk

[strange flare]

oh take a guess how many portals I got even though it was a sample run

[pale thicket]

ok ty just wanted to make sure

[warm grove]

ima guess 62

[prime panther]

Is it normal for the 'PORTAL OPENED' message to pop up in the rift?

[strange flare]

oh it's very nice, started at 24

the most nice portal number

[warm grove]

24 from your last run?

[strange flare]

I even did ntroll

yeah I did 24 like 2 years ago when vman released

[icy mantle]

lmao

[warm grove]

and just never redid the speedrun?

[strange flare]

nope

[icy mantle]

he just like me frfr

[warm grove]

based

[indigo stratus]

Why are my prints so bad?

[toxic quartz]

it just is like that

try working on worshiping and your towers so you unlock royal sampler

[strange flare]

hmm I actually have enough talent points to do stat boosts now

i need to book epoch and voodoo tomorrow tho

good work today chat

[warm grove]

this a new beginning where you actually resample?

[strange flare]

ill get a couple vials out of this too at least

not really, I already did my other characters like a week or two ago

vman was just lagging behind

[prime panther]

Is it normal for the 'PORTAL OPENED' message to pop up in the rift?

[strange flare]

who knows

[warm grove]

if it does or doesn't makes no difference

wouldn't know myself because that was added a while after I finished rift

[strange prism]

sorry im active afking statues (wasnt at pc)

[strange flare]

oh wait I forgot I can brr

[strange prism]

nice run tho

[strange flare]

I coul prob get like 75 portals maybe if I did a strict speedrun no resamples

[prime panther]

Thanks

[strange flare]

might try that tomorrow

[silver condor]

Guys so I am at W5 now at the stilt guys

Can anyone advise where to use 2 24h time candies pls

[warm grove]

get your accuracy and survivability max and then just do the math of 24 * your kph and if it's less than the portal or just about equal use it

[restive dock]

nothing worth rn, just spam 1hour instead

[indigo stratus]

Is there a link to builds

[restive dock]

or u can't wait for it lol

[silver condor]

So just to progress portals

[warm grove]

yeah? unless you have a different purpose?

[silver condor]

Already used all my smaller ones to get there

[strange flare]

only 3 brr procs

[silver condor]

No just lvling just needed advice since its a "big time jump 🤣🤣

[restive dock]

well, divinity jail and afk for more lv

[indigo stratus]

I've done a tower. Can I keep doing the same one and get more worships?

[restive dock]

u rushing too hard

[warm grove]

if you are just leveling, candies are basically useless compared to active crystal farming

[silver condor]

Thank you

[restive dock]

yes, but at higher wave

[toxic quartz]

maybe give them a try but until you unlock more towers it can be hard

[warm grove]

yeah there's multiple totems and the higher wave you get the more prayers you can unlock for each one

[silver condor]

So I can now start working on my crystal spawn rate?

[warm grove]

probably get to W6 first before caring about leveling your guys

[silver condor]

Im lvl225

Dk

[indigo stratus]

I have to wait till Printer level 5 before I can get good hermit can samples.

[restive dock]

I prefer sb for farming lv

[warm grove]

yeah just push W6 because you'd have to farm crystal chance

[strange flare]

boom headshot, boom headshot, BOOOOOM HEEEEAADDDSHOT

[indigo stratus]

Do I go through each one to the highest wave?

[restive dock]

average alchemy player

[restive dock]

no, the highest count on all

[warm grove]

not sure what you mean, but just try every so often after getting TD upgrades to redo totems for more prayers and souls

[indigo stratus]

Yeah that's what I mean, I'll do each one to the highest level.

[toxic quartz]

you will have a big jump on worship when you unlock boulder roller

[toxic quartz]

its like the 4th tower

[strange flare]

vials are life

need MORE MAXED

[warm grove]

you don't even have them all unlocked link

[strange flare]

only one I can roll is doggies

need to do td and get w6 pushed finally

i get another attempt tomorrow at least for doggies

[toxic quartz]

when lvl 13 bobjoepickle?

[strange flare]

never

[warm grove]

heat death

[toxic quartz]

you are still a noob until you have it

[warm grove]

damn apparently you have 1 more vial maxed than me link

[indigo stratus]

It won't let me do it.

[warm grove]

you have no charge, you can try later or on another character

[toxic quartz]

its just like 1.369.863 years stop being lazy and do it

[ruby loom]

having two gigao enemies stuck in purgatory is like a 15 minute task

[warm grove]

starting to hit critical numbers in refinery

[indigo stratus]

I'll try on my level 73

[full beacon]

you got void already? I couldn't get past some with healing until void tower

[indigo stratus]

or wait as it's leveling

[ruby loom]

i need 71 can i get there without void

currently 60

[indigo stratus]

Which do I do?

[warm grove]

just choose whatever you like the most, like skill efficiency or dmg

[ruby loom]

whatever you currently need, it will go up in the future

[indigo stratus]

I did Brute efficiency.

On my 2nd slot I am using this build for Warr2.

[icy mantle]

smartest option

[indigo stratus]

and now we wait for Water Droplets to maximize Copper ore.

Anyone know where I can find the talent that boost crystal spawn rates

[warm grove]

the star talent?

[indigo stratus]

And the one for critical dmg

Yea

[warm grove]

like where the books come from?

[indigo stratus]

Yep yep

It has a green dragon icon looking thing

[warm grove]

the crystal one comes from the W1 daily quest in the frogs map I believe

[indigo stratus]

Oh bet

[warm grove]

and the crit dmg one is from dungeon flurbo shop

[plain harness]

@turbid stump @indigo stratus @full beacon @thorny zinc
After a week of leaving my guys cooking and farming ladles I finally got cheese

[strange prism]

when your grand kids have grand kids

[indigo stratus]

Thank you

[plain harness]

I GOT THE CHOCO CHIP WOOOO

[indigo stratus]

Now I have things to work for again

[toxic quartz]

severe understatement

[warm grove]

now you can crystal farm

[strange prism]

get the samurai one (summoning one op for rift)

[plain harness]

I also got mad at cheese farming and got that chip that doubles the top left card cause I bought one from the shop

[full beacon]

LFG!

[warm grove]

omega doubler is very big difference for the demon genie card

[plain harness]

Took me a week and 2 days of leaving my chars in the kitchen

[warm grove]

bring me from some 1 in 47 to 1 in 30 something

[full beacon]

now you can suffer farming

[plain harness]

Yea that's my setup now

I'll just leave my dk overnight all good

Time to suffer with onyx statues

I saw like a train of 15 crystal carrots and it felt so good

How do I check my crystal spawn rate again

[warm grove]

in IE or IT under character stats

[random owl]

idleon efficiency

[strange prism]

[random owl]

yea

[random owl]

just a placeholder

[plain harness]

One in 96 lmao

[random owl]

itll get better

[warm grove]

yep that means the stamp farming is next up

[random owl]

whats ur shrines looking like

[plain harness]

I only just got the crystal shrine earlier today

[random owl]

oh gotcha

[strange flare]

Rift?

[plain harness]

Level 5

[random owl]

let me show u how nasty it is rq but it takes a lot of time

[strange flare]

I will when I’m at Sammys tho

[strange prism]

YOURE NOT AT SAMURAIS?

[strange flare]

No

[warm grove]

link has never pushed a day in his life

[plain harness]

I'll leave this DK for a bit to get 4* crystal carrots then I'll dump them in lab again

[strange prism]

rift. skill mastery

[strange flare]

Oh

[strange prism]

youll want the summoning xp vial

[plain harness]

Oh nevermind I just got the 4* crystal carrot

[strange flare]

Gotcha

[strange prism]

criminal

[junior terrace]

whats best map to farm power statues

[warm grove]

why's your shrine bonus suck for its level? you farm the chizoar card?

[plain harness]

Second chizoar right?

[strange prism]

is there a fast way to use PO box pens?

[warm grove]

nope just suffer

[random owl]

ofc i have

[ruby loom]

made it to 76, lets goo

[strange flare]

Didn’t feel like pushing to doggies with my awful kph

[warm grove]

strange, I wonder where the difference comes from then

[strange prism]

have 6k pens I really dont want to click through

[indigo stratus]

You proud of me?

[plain harness]

If I placed shrines and everyone of my chars has 100 shrine architect it'll apply regardless?

[random owl]

let me check on ie

[strange flare]

I’d definitely like to push w6 now I have jocund and more damage but I cannot due to monument jails

[random owl]

i think it actually shows the true stats there

[strange flare]

And I probably just unlocked wisdom

[plain harness]

Will shrine architect give the charge bonus regardless of who placed them down?

[warm grove]

ah, makes more sense the bonus was displayed wrong

yeah it will

[random owl]

itll give it to all characters idk if that answersd ur question]

[plain harness]

huh so do I have to give everyone level 100 or just one

[random owl]

wait what even is shrine architect

[strange prism]

prolong it, I felt lost after finally hitting samurais

[random owl]

let me see

[plain harness]

+33% charge

[strange prism]

.. still feel lost

[random owl]

is it a skill on es?

[plain harness]

Star talent
Lets you put down the shrines and gives +33% bonus to charge

[random owl]

oh this

[indigo stratus]

Is 30% respawn rate good for barb

[strange flare]

Until I finish w6 and max out hours on justice there’s not much to active

[warm grove]

lol just do all active farms now like vial maxing, statue upgrading, gstacks, etc.

[strange flare]

I really need to get 200 green stacks

[random owl]

what u need is golden cheese

thats where it gets good

[plain harness]

My question was is it good to give level 100 to all my guys

[strange prism]

yea.. did samurais, now I have statues, after its big afks on monuments... little left

[ruby loom]

up toooooo

that's a bit disappointing

[random owl]

itll come along dw

u have the packs?

[indigo stratus]

Is this bad?

[strange prism]

there is DB.. but thats DB so

[ruby loom]

wdym packs

[warm grove]

get that accuracy up then you're set

[void pier]

Is it bad to push with bb

[warm grove]

oh my weekly reset happened, giant mobs started swarming me

[plain harness]

yay I can leave all my guys in lab now

[round pulsar]

oh

[strange prism]

big

[plain harness]

Idts

BB is my main pusher

[strange flare]

You gonna max out justice? I can’t remember what it is now

[warm grove]

perfectly fine for afk pushing

[indigo stratus]

Where is accuracy statues

[ruby loom]

i didnt get my first lucky lad until after i had deathbringer

and now i might need to put them on block list

[plain harness]

Do alchemy and get shaquracy up

[random owl]

theres 2 packs that give dr, one of them multiplies dr by 1.3 and the other one gives 200% dr

[strange flare]

Sheesh I’ve probably dropped over 140 lucky lads at this point

[random owl]

just p2w stuff

[strange prism]

10k, then move to wisdom to 10k, get bravery from 4 to 10k then go for justice again

[warm grove]

I would reccomend not trying to grind the accuracy statues as they are a real pain to farm. Grind cards instead

[ruby loom]

idk i might have one, ik i got the db pack

[random owl]

hate lucky lads

[ruby loom]

the leaf back pack and the wizard robe

[plain harness]

^ sandcastles and wood shrooms
Wood shrooms also give accuracy statues so it's two birds with one map

[ruby loom]

the beachball pack

[modern gate]

perfect hat for es

[random owl]

i dont remember what tehyre called

[strange prism]

or max it, idk whats better really

[strange flare]

What is the max now anyways 38k?

[plain harness]

Thank the lord my BB lick gave me cheese

[strange prism]

24k

[plain harness]

I feel so at peace now

[strange flare]

It’s higher than that

[strange prism]

but half due to arcade

[strange prism]

didnt know it was changed?

[warm grove]

24k is the last bonus

[indigo stratus]

@warm grove Farming Sandcastles now for cards

[warm grove]

good

[strange prism]

why you troll me

[plain harness]

Id farm wood shrooms instead

[warm grove]

only 814 hours??? better start grinding

[plain harness]

Wood shrooms give accuracy statues too

[strange flare]

There’s a max above 24k

[plain harness]

You should farm both if you can

[indigo stratus]

Where's the location?

[strange flare]

It’s pretty much only important for justice since you get starting coins per 2hrs

[plain harness]

Top of the tree world 1

If you havent used upgrade slots on your secondary stat you can do that too if you just wanna push

[indigo stratus]

Only got it on my DK/Squire that I am pushing with.

[plain harness]

Unless you're speedrunning just take the game slowly

[sleek bane]

no one is pushing past 24k on justice unless ur a giga sweat with nothing else to do

the scaling for the schematic is pretty ass

[warm grove]

yeah since it's every power of 2, but it is technically not the max

[plain harness]

I speedran worlds and now Im backtracking a lot

[warm grove]

although I would never waste my time doing it

[sleek bane]

yea 24k is def not the max but there really isn't a good reason to push past it for like 99.9% of the playerbase

[strange prism]

for justice, when it says "for x amount of days you cant approve" does that just mean the next 3 options

[plain harness]

That reminds me to check village before I go sleep

[strange prism]

ooooh thats what you meant, thought you were referring to unlocks lol

[indigo stratus]

Crystal Card?

[warm grove]

its drop rate

[plain harness]

@warm grove I sat at roo for 6 hours and got 9 mega fish

[indigo stratus]

Doing both Wood Mushrooms and Sand Castle.

[warm grove]

Lol good job

[indigo stratus]

Where do I get it?

[plain harness]

I started at the first 3

[warm grove]

crystals in W1?

[plain harness]

Crystal carrots spawn when you kill any W1 mob

Or any mob in the world then there's a chance for a crystal one to spawn

Each world has a different crystal mob

[indigo stratus]

All my cards.

[sleek bane]

next 2 because accepting it counts as 1

[plain harness]

See how you got the crystal sheep

[sleek bane]

because spaghetti code

[plain harness]

There's a spawn chance

[plain harness]

I'm at mega 4 and now I'm tired of roo

And orion

[indigo stratus]

Ohh. I hope to get every card to 4 star by the end of the year.

[warm grove]

roo is annoying, orion just takes time like checking once a day

[round pulsar]

I need to visit roo and Orion again it's been 2 days but it's just so boring

[warm grove]

yeah that's gonna take a bit longer than that unfortunately

[indigo stratus]

Does this work on star tab?

[round pulsar]

Ye

[indigo stratus]

On W1 and W2 only.

[sleek bane]

also imo it's pretty risky to accept that now because there's a lot of new interactions that just tank your pop if you reject

[strange prism]

worth or minimal gain?

[sleek bane]

what are other options

[strange prism]

I see, thank you

[warm grove]

in that case if you do a bit of active ES farm yeah you got that easy

[sleek bane]

but it's good generally

[warm grove]

its good earlier on as it's diminishing gains

[sleek bane]

dr for sure

[plain harness]

You only need 4* on good cards anyways like poop and crystal carrots

[ancient flame]

does havingc cog board open too long just whitescreen you?

[strange prism]

evo?

[sleek bane]

evo or chopping eff ye

[strange prism]

[sleek bane]

my personal prio for wisdom is: wisdom multi > monu afk > dr = crop evo > villager exp/chopping eff > everything else

[warm grove]

what wave did you get to in wisdon?

[strange prism]

gained 2m xp today, not too bad

[strange prism]

7

[round pulsar]

oh right what tower levels are recommended for the frigid soul TD because I'm pretty sure I don't wanna get 43 souls per worship

[warm grove]

dang I usually can only get to 5, you get way too few attempts even if you remember them all

[strange prism]

need more hours

[warm grove]

dang I need that third bonus sounds huge

[sleek bane]

it's good because it also makes the study work lol

[sleek bane]

how ur other monus looking

[strange prism]

can be, wave 8 the row reveal showed zero matches

got all my lv500+ sitting at justice atm

[sleek bane]

pump those justice hours

[strange prism]

goated

should probably show the others more love

[tribal sparrow]

did we just lost worm tail drops forever?

[white path]

no?

[tribal sparrow]

tsk i miss that loot for green stack

[indigo stratus]

FIXED.

[cobalt hatch]

what ribbons should i use on what meals

[tribal sparrow]

all except library vip and lab width.

[warm grove]

priority gold food effect

[tribal sparrow]

best meal is golden food though. end game food

[mossy anvil]

which meal is that?

yuumi?

[warm grove]

one of the final ones, save your best ribon for it

[tribal sparrow]

3rd to the last.

[warm grove]

dang if only I knew to save them from the event for later

[junior terrace]

troll broken??

[tribal sparrow]

lvl 16 ribbon from event is nuts.

[junior terrace]

2nd time i got soft locked

[mighty abyss]

Any advice on hitting 5k pristalle lake for the next jewel rotation (i am at crystal caverns pet batle)
I don't think i can get to the sand giant for bone to get the 5th slot in timer (i'm at arena round 47)

[sleek bane]

damn troll has been bugged for like months

[sleek bane]

might be cooked lowkey

[mighty abyss]

sad

[sleek bane]

i mean no big rush on jewels imo

you end up just gambling for the ones you're missing later on

if you want an actual cope way you can maybe get to it

try to push wave 50 and try some rng comps with looter

and maybe you can win

[strange prism]

how long do you have?

[sleek bane]

but generally it's pretty hard to push arena or spices if you have no rattler or mono

prio should just be getting those 2 and if you can get those 2 it should be easy

[strange prism]

oh next rotation

[mighty abyss]

Ok should i try to hardfarm for the world2 splicer?

[sleek bane]

that jewel is also lowkey ass

[warm grove]

you could active bm for faster eggs if you have the enhancement

[oak mason]

Are you hardstuck on the w2 pets?

[warm grove]

yeah get the splicer, the early ones are realitively easy

[mighty abyss]

I don't have vman yet unfortunatly

[astral flint]

just came across a 3 year old thread about "snapshotting" crystal and respawn % chance, does that mechanic still work?

[warm grove]

then splicer is your only way to make it faster

yeah it does to my knowledge

[strange prism]

big

[mighty abyss]

ok time for pincermin genocide i guess

[warm grove]

although I never snapshot because its very micro

[mighty abyss]

thanks for the advices everyone

[astral flint]

another random question: I'm not purposefully trying to crystal farm on SB, it just happens to be the one I'm on right now, does the flag/plunderous respawns work for crystal mob chances?

[heavy harbor]

Do the party towers do anything besides the choices of +speed or +dmg? Like, if you level one up just once or twice, so it hasn't reached the first choice, is it just sitting there doing nothing?

[warm grove]

just got 17 gems from level up gift by logging into a dude after 2 days

[round pulsar]

ok unlocked w5

[warm grove]

probably? why farm crystals on SB? you leveling?

[astral flint]

nah, I just happen to be active on that character and was curious

but yes leveling

[warm grove]

can't say with certainty but more likely than not yeah

[astral flint]

neat, thanks

out of curiosity, what makes bubo the best money farmer? its always listed when people ask what to active farm on

[warm grove]

the dude just respawns and kills so many things very quickly is all

[strange flare]

Most crystals monsters

CrystalGenerator.exe

[astral flint]

ohh neat. I'm guessing dk is the dedicated crystal farmer because of the orb drop %? even if bubo does it faster

[craggy bronze]

is there a guide for how to do the souls game in w3?

[warm grove]

yeah

[warm grove]

should be, I might have it in a guide let me look

[astral flint]

makes sense now

[sleek bane]

yea orb also doesnt work the same way as traditional dr and it works much better for crystals

compared to something like es portal

[strange flare]

It’s because orb DR% works much better on rate and mega rare drops

[warm grove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Here under TD scroll down

[craggy bronze]

I have been stuck on anvil tab 4 for awhile, I cant unlock it until I get more souls and I currently cant get past wave 6

ty ty ty ty

[astral flint]

neat, learn more every day!

[strange flare]

ES portal is better for base mob drops

[astral flint]

yep, got that much down

[round pulsar]

omg literally me

[warm grove]

Very nice for bubo farming. Could be better though gotta get cheese for my shrines

[round pulsar]

will unlock the tab in 2 years ✅

[compact pagoda]

cheeze go brrrr

[nimble atlas]

upgrading a stamp made this far more reasonable. parking my BB in the kitchen for a few days for ladles should help a ton too.

[strange flare]

I need cheese

Is that a DK farm

[warm grove]

yeah should be

[craggy bronze]

I got six per 🥲

[compact pagoda]

mousey detected

[round pulsar]

F

Yeah I should probably upgrade my towers as well but I hate salts

[astral flint]

I was able to push anvil 4/frozen souls by spamming boulder rollers with a couple frozen malones and abusing kick/entangle BM at like level 6-7ish boulder to get to wave 19 (couldn't out dps the wave 20 green) and then using souble gum on my ES and siphon charge worship spam

[craggy bronze]

up until blue (?) salts are easy! you just print the rss until you're in the millions and boom all good. then its just a waiting game which sucks so much

[round pulsar]

I mean that's why I hate them

I print enough to keep up rn

[craggy bronze]

ah

understandable

[strange flare]

I wonder if I can get 200 green stacks tomorrow

Is 200 that easy?

[round pulsar]

I'm so used to the high movement speed of my main I am so impatient with others now

[warm grove]

what are you at rn?

[strange flare]

More speed potions

120-130ish I think

[strange prism]

Ive never gone over 150 so couldnt tell ya

[strange flare]

I know I need to till first w4+ drops

[warm grove]

rip, chilling at 165. can get to 180 soon by critters and bars

[strange prism]

if you hit all ores and bars should be big

[strange flare]

Wait it’s that hard

Maaaaannn

[north oriole]

im stuck at 185 greenstacks the only ones i could get is early food but thats not enouth to bring me up to 200

[strange flare]

I really need equinox

[warm grove]

yeah I gotta farm the crystal leaves at some point too

gotta gstack them statues next

craftable boost food is on the menu for crafting as well as anvil tab 2

[strange flare]

[strange prism]

is 200 gstacking everthing?

[strange flare]

No

[warm grove]

nope far from it

[strange prism]

really?

[strange flare]

But it’s the requirement for equinox symbols

[warm grove]

some people have like 265 gstacks or something

cannot fathom how though

[strange flare]

I really need it though

Too bad I’m missing some summoning bonuses

Cause I’m somewhat near getting a 400 talent level

[warm grove]

probably sneaking charm

[strange flare]

Definitely charm

I’m also kinda stuck on endless summoning until I get gambit

[strange prism]

when you have nothing to spend on, they accumulate fairly easy id assume

[warm grove]

i'll be getting to gambit in like 3 days or so

[astral flint]

what would be the fastest portal pusher for active farm? assuming master classes 150+

[warm grove]

thought it would take forever then the jars came in clutch

[strange flare]

I think I have wisdom unlocked next time I log in

[north oriole]

DK

[warm grove]

DK as long as you can oneshot, otherwise ES

[strange flare]

Bubo

[strange prism]

welp 200 gstacks is only 17 rows in a chest, wow theres a lot of items in this game

[warm grove]

oh yeah bubo is even better if you can oneshot, but you shouldn't push if you can't oneshot anyways

[strange flare]

Also there’s only 1 master class so far

[strange prism]

doesnt even get to w5 drops

[astral flint]

I forgot what the uhhh. 4th tab is called

[warm grove]

elites

[astral flint]

right on

[strange flare]

So my chances of 200 green stacks tomorrow is very small

[warm grove]

i'd say impossible by tomorrow

[strange prism]

its fairly dependent on where your at with your stacks

[warm grove]

maybe if you have like 1000 days worth of candies that you spend

[north oriole]

time to greenstack bullets 💀

[strange prism]

youd need every ore/bar, consumbable, fish, bug, critter, anvil items, and w1-6

oh and souls

[warm grove]

but the easy ones is the W4-6 shop buys, critters, most bars, all mob drops, and all the other skilling resources including fish bugs and souls

[astral flint]

my SB is like 3-4 maps farther than my ES/DK on w4 (farming flambeiges for portal) but I don't think it'd be faster to switch and catch up on the es/dk than just finish with SB, ye

[surreal spear]

I might acctually get choco chip but i have to lock in

[north oriole]

i need to hold a long time

[strange prism]

the ore/bar should be easy, critters will take time, bugs n fish should be simple, souls will take candying for more charge

[warm grove]

you are holding in inventory right? still gonna take a long time but at least not forever

souls shouldn't be that bad? I got like 2 billion from a quick charge

[strange prism]

we are not the same

[warm grove]

lock in like I did

[astral flint]

[strange prism]

170 frosty is wild

[warm grove]

took over 4 hours ngl I will not do it again until next year

[strange prism]

went back to rerun first 3 and got bored

[warm grove]

yeah I only did like half with new towers, gotta do the rest on the weekend when I have more time

[strange prism]

w3 n on havent been done in some good time

should be doing it, but its.. idk working on statues

[warm grove]

pretty sure I only did OJ bay and citric conflict once

yeah those are next on the list for gstacking

[strange prism]

I need w6 for craftables, just cant find anything on setups

[warm grove]

cinderburn has a great video that I followed for wave 170+

[strange prism]

im pretty much ready for GS, just being lazy

[strange prism]

oo sweet

[warm grove]

of course my towers weren't maxxed so I only got wave 140 but the setup was the same

[strange prism]

yea my towers could use some love

I pushed shrines for a while for constructon mastery

whats typically faster, ES w3 statues or DK w6?

[plain harness]

what onyx statue do

[warm grove]

ES W3 only took me some 13-18 hours each. I have been farming DK in W6 for statues for over a week

[strange prism]

ah damit

[gilded flint]

We cant candy in w6 oh lol

[warm grove]

onyx statues double a statues effect, and give all statues a 1.1x multi to their deposits

[strange prism]

Ive been at w4 with DK for ~3 hours and I've only gained ~ 4k each, going insane

was hoping ES would be shorter

w6 wouldve been a nice change of scenery

[warm grove]

yeah the W4 statues sit at around a 1 in 40 drop chance, where the W6 ones are 1 in 100, in 125, and in 143 each. not to mention the rare bags have lower odds as well

[strange prism]

do you remember where you DKd w4?

[brisk compass]

red salt is so long to get at the start ☠️

[warm grove]

i'll check my DK kills to find out

[dense pine]

clammies

[strange prism]

saw that on the chart, was hoping it was outdated

[dense pine]

pretty sure that was the best crystal farm spot

[white lintel]

Indeed clammies

[dense pine]

w4 onyx statues werent that bad really

didnt take me long thats for sure

[warm grove]

yeah it was clammies

[dense pine]

• you get some pearlers

[white lintel]

I uh, did them at flombeige bc I was stupid, but that was a long time ago

[dense pine]

also hey babe

[dense pine]

[strange prism]

believe that, took me 1b wurms to get 2/3 w5 done

[white lintel]

Hey honey <3

[strange prism]

ive just been statue farming for like 2 weeks and its mind numbing

[dense pine]

i feel like...thats a bit much.

but ion remember how much it took me tbh

[dense pine]

[warm grove]

all multikill and no dr?

[dense pine]

i am, somewhat back

[white lintel]

Onyxing can take a while depending on DR

[dense pine]

i am still hole jailed tho

[white lintel]

But with how easy DR is nowadays it should be pretty quick

[strange prism]

hmmmmm?

[dense pine]

my DR sucks for modern standards.

[warm grove]

needs to be easier after this next candle wish gurantee

[dense pine]

i have 3 more till my guarantee

[strange prism]

idk probably candied wurms for xp and forgot

[warm grove]

if your dr sucks but you have good multikill then you get way more mob drops then statues

[strange prism]

do have fairly low dr

33

[warm grove]

I would have never candied

33 is low I am done for

[white lintel]

idek what good DR is for early-mid game nowadays

[strange prism]

I rushed my BB through w3-6 and candied the others in w5 for xp lol

[dense pine]

damn lmao, im almost at 2b

[white lintel]

I was stupid and got acetone all over my hand and now my skin is tight

[warm grove]

average chemistry lab

[strange prism]

love wurms

[plain harness]

oh my looooord choco chip gives me so much dopamine

[strange prism]

its op

[white lintel]

chemistry my beloved

[dense pine]

[warm grove]

dang these worm grinders are crasy

[plain harness]

THE ONE WEEK OF COOKING WAS WORATH IT

[dense pine]

hate.

[plain harness]

I SLOGGED FOR ONE WEEK LEAVING EVERYONE IN THE KITCHEN

[strange prism]

waaat

thats like hating gmush

[dense pine]

fuck i forgot to do my cooking again

[white lintel]

I have 22B worm kills

[icy mantle]

oh my good

[dense pine]

i did like 3 plates and stopped

[strange prism]

think wurms past my gmush lmao

[dense pine]

literally everything except like 2 or 3 plates are 1 ladle ffs

[warm grove]

Arctis do you CC on samurai or on worms?

[dense pine]

gmush bad.

[plain harness]

i left everyone in kitchen, looked for every possible way to increase new recipe speed

[low arrow]

Seeing cryatal respawn 10 times on a row with choco is pure dopamine

[plain harness]

tried to find every single ladle i could muster

[strange prism]

samurai kinda goated

[plain harness]

IT WAS SOOO WORTH IT

[dense pine]

even better when the DK dsiciple kills them all in 1 shockwave slash

[white lintel]

it gets better with higher crystal chance and DR bc of the loot explosions

[low arrow]

For now my chance is 1 on 60

[warm grove]

my laptop can barely handle CC with all these crystals

[plain harness]

OH MY GOD IT HAPPENED AGAIn

THE DOPAMINE IS SO REAAAAAAAAAAAL

[low arrow]

I need thesw card doubles to get more of ruby cards

[white lintel]

whats your DR?

[north oriole]

first bullet greenstacked - 2 to go i hate my life

[plain harness]

9.58

[torpid acorn]

Please stop masturbating in w3 chat

[dense pine]

...what.

[plain harness]

why you make it weird

[strange prism]

hope you made 30m bullets

[dense pine]

man..you ruined my idleon chatting, im going to sleep

[plain harness]

good night

[north oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

my finger would hate me

[sly nova]

[plain harness]

oh oops sorry

[sly nova]

Heh?

[white lintel]

theres a green beanie, I NEED

[plain harness]

forgot about that

[strange prism]

you need 2 bullets for the each craft of the other one...

[full beacon]

how

[north oriole]

fuck my life

[white lintel]

idk

[strange prism]

[north oriole]

oh man so i need to get 20mill more

[plain harness]

what other items are easy to green stack>

[white lintel]

you have the items in your inventory right?

[strange prism]

hope so

[north oriole]

sure i do, would be a mess if i dont even though im late game and almost done with every content

[strange flare]

It’s not like it changed

[north oriole]

its still sux to hold the button for like another 30 minutes KEKW

[strange flare]

Except for hole

[white lintel]

wdym you hope so, youre the one doing it, if you have them in invo it goes a looot faster

[strange prism]

im not the one doing it lmao

[white lintel]

oh ok, sorry I saw you send the pic of the recipe earleir

[north oriole]

here we go again then

[plain harness]

is emerald rhombol good?

[strange flare]

It’s a jewel so yes

[plain harness]

it counts any mushroom right

[strange prism]

just casually holding 100m flies

[white lintel]

im holding 300m flies rn

[warm grove]

well I am not holding any because I don't like flies

[white lintel]

figured I should make these while I remember

[white lintel]

only green mush and yes its good

[nimble atlas]

i'm feeling constantly blue saltlocked because supposedly I always should be levelling up my green salts. Is there any way around this or is it something I have to live with?

[white lintel]

you shoud always be ranking up red and green salts

youre probably in a salt production deficet

[north oriole]

[pulsar oracle]

a day of power statue farming on a 14.86x dr divine knight with crystal mob cards got me barely 200 statues...i must be missing something

[plain harness]

always?!

[plain harness]

choco chip

[pulsar oracle]

with choco chip

[plain harness]

shrine?

[white lintel]

where are you farming?

[plain harness]

^

[pulsar oracle]

beans

shrine is out but its like level 10ish

[plain harness]

i just got 15 from one orb cycle

and my dr is only 9.58

[pulsar oracle]

is there some alchemy vial im forgetting about

[plain harness]

do you perhaps not have the choco chip equipped

[pulsar oracle]

just checked my lab, its there

[full beacon]

or is it on the wrong person

[white lintel]

essentially yes, you can turn purple off if you need to save green salts for stuff. whats your main concern with green/blue salts

[pulsar oracle]

on me dk

[white lintel]

send your IT please

[pulsar oracle]

im on steam

i thought it doesn't work if you're ons team

[full beacon]

steam works now

[plain harness]

im stoning and havent refined my red salts in a while

[white lintel]

its been updated

[pulsar oracle]

oh sick

[white lintel]

red is the most important one to rank up bc everything else relies on it

[plain harness]

i started like 3ish weeks ago and i only refined it to 30k

[pulsar oracle]

https://cas420.idleonefficiency.com/

[white lintel]

every time you rank up it produces faster but the cap to rank up increases, but it caps at 1M. so youll want to rank up as much as you can.

you should also have as much refinery speed boosts as you can so make sure to have the lab node active

[white lintel]

IT not IE

[plain harness]

thanks

once i rank up my blue one more time ill do that

[warm grove]

your red and green should never be on autorefine

[white lintel]

use the image in the pins here to balance your refinery ranks, or just use scoli

[plain harness]

yea i dont put it on autorefine