midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[zenith hare]

case and point

max discount, though i have no where near enough mat cap to get it

[strange prism]

especially if you think hes useless now, obv means he needs a buff, which would be master class/w7

[strange flare]

now I disspear to farm bones for a day

[zenith hare]

not even mman on monster mats can

[zenith hare]

bm needs more of one

[strange prism]

BM great and what he does, doesnt really need a buff

[zenith hare]

what does he do?

one thing: breeding

[strange prism]

exactly, and its great at it

[zenith hare]

and he isnt good at it, he has zero active play that is benefical for it

if you active bm, you are straight up wasting ur time

[strange prism]

why would you need to active BM

[zenith hare]

unless you have basically maxed all statues, rare drops, gold food, beanstalks, and have 1m dr gfood

[zenith hare]

so youd rather a class just be passive upgrades sitting there to rot?

[strange prism]

not every class is gonna be insane at every skill

would kinda defeat the purpose in different classes/skills

[zenith hare]

they should at least have some playability

the problem with bm is that active bm does too little

if it was...say 50x breeding speed, itd be worth it!

but endgamers can max get 4x, and thats endgamers!

[strange prism]

Bubo actives CC, DK active statues, what do the others active

[zenith hare]

ES does base drops

SB does plunder kills for multi dr

DB does wraith form

oh look! everyone has a place

[strange prism]

wont be for long

[zenith hare]

except bm.

[zenith hare]

active will still be needed

youd be an idiot to think otherwise

[strange prism]

oh look thats 3 classes out of 11

[zenith hare]

....5 out of 7

duplicates has the same place technically

vman has speedruns

[strange prism]

DK Bubo ES I guess SB so 4

[zenith hare]

so actually 6 out of 7!

[strange prism]

active implies consistently playing, vmans cooldown would say otherwise

[zenith hare]

BM has just straight up been never worth to active

[zenith hare]

youd be surprised

and its active active, not just active afk

[strange flare]

Breeding stares intently

[strange prism]

dont waste your time link

[zenith hare]

oh wow i can get that one achievement faster

which btw will only take me a month

no bm active

[strange prism]

well.. when you play a game constantly for 4 years, things seem obsolete eventually

[strange flare]

It’s my job to flame bean

[zenith hare]

ive played for 1.5 years and ive had plenty of breaks

[strange prism]

riiight

[zenith hare]

plus i active very little compared to everyone else at my stage

[sly nova]

1/3 w6 statue onyx 😭

[zenith hare]

people at my stage has 4/5x this

hell even people below me has 4/5x that!

[strange flare]

And I’m not his stage

He’s calling me out

[zenith hare]

:p

[strange flare]

I did quit for a year

[thin wind]

my coworker has 10 thousand hours

[zenith hare]

and yet youre still vastly higher~

[zenith hare]

do you know roughly their stats?

[thin wind]

I could ask them

[strange flare]

I’m at 9.2k

[zenith hare]

oh thats a stupid low amount of achs

[zenith hare]

well for comparison thats mine rn

mine rn and i could get another 6 quite easily

[thin wind]

dang

[zenith hare]

rest i just have to focus a bit of time into

[thin wind]

you like hunting achievements or did you just have them already>?

[zenith hare]

accidental

minus very few

[thin wind]

He's just like me fr

[zenith hare]

ive been more focused in on it as i have a reason to "perfect" the game now

as steam would actually show it

[thin wind]

idk how it works with F2P games but yeah it'd be cool

[zenith hare]

tbh this one will be my last one

[thin wind]

I only have a few steam perfect games. mostly ones I liked a lot like skyrim or DS3

[strange flare]

That’s understandable

Already 1/5 done tho

[zenith hare]

yes and that took 10 days of active

fuck that shit.

[strange flare]

[zenith hare]

that is 1/10th of my total playtime!

[crude crest]

Easiest achievement

[thin wind]

I haven't been leaving my game on overnight but I might start now that the W5 portals are taking a lot of active time.

[zenith hare]

okay i counted i can get 14 achs very easily

[meager moon]

whats the average min level for reaching w4

[zenith hare]

ab 100 on ur main pusher ish

i think 80 was what mine was tho

[meager moon]

i see

[zenith hare]

class level doenst matter much so eh

[crude crest]

How do you get that late w6 thing

[zenith hare]

i edited my nickname

[meager moon]

im low 70's high 90 i just wanted to see if there was a consensus

[crude crest]

Oh

[zenith hare]

nah not really, as long as youre in w4 with the right stats youre fine

[thin wind]

you have to earn it

[zenith hare]

class level really doesnt matter much

[thin wind]

The right stats being high accuracy of course

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed

which this solves

time to get a high score of 4!

i swear im never getting this ach

[broken moat]

Hey guys i just started to kill mobs in W4, how do i rush to the special class upgrade?

[zenith hare]

this is how

acc is the only thing you need for all of w4

due to healing food existing

[hexed shoal]

Use candies

[zenith hare]

as long as you have 100% acc, ur base kph will VERY likely be at the highest it can be

[broken moat]

Where is the quest NPC for the elite class?

[zenith hare]

4th map

[broken moat]

Omg i am so close

[hexed shoal]

4th map

[zenith hare]

spike trap warning btw

[broken moat]

I cant waittt

[hexed shoal]

At demon genies

[broken moat]

Is it one shot trap?

[zenith hare]

one shot trap?

[broken moat]

Insta kill?

[zenith hare]

i mean this room

yes itll kill always, even me rn

[broken moat]

Isnt that W1?

[zenith hare]

yup

its called the spike trap minigame, get gems from it once a day

[broken moat]

U play on Steam?

[zenith hare]

yup

[hexed shoal]

It works for steam and non steam I think

[broken moat]

What is the best class after the W4 upgrade?

All around

[white path]

theres only 1 master class so DB misunderstood the question

[hexed shoal]

ES/DK (elemental sorcerer amd divine knight)

[zenith hare]

BB too for afk pushing

[hexed shoal]

Oh wait I thought he means elite

[zenith hare]

woop

woah r5 for NOT MOVING

[hexed shoal]

Keep going!

[white path]

I misunderstood "after the W4 upgrade" as the next class upgrade, I think u interpreted it correctly

[zenith hare]

r7 and i moved just in time

r9

10!

[hexed shoal]

Bro might get the achievment

[zenith hare]

11!

12!

ITS DONE

[hexed shoal]

1more cmon

[zenith hare]

NOOO

[hexed shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/marketmove-mm-move-cool-trend-gif-25255233

[zenith hare]

finally its gone....only took 60 tries

[hexed shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[zenith hare]

+70 points!

@mint rivet

[hexed shoal]

Wait. How 15?

[zenith hare]

died on 15

[hexed shoal]

Ohhh

[broken moat]

Is the 15 storage space real? From the cake event?

[thin wind]

yeah

[zenith hare]

the puchase? yes

[broken moat]

I cant wait to get it

[thin wind]

the bag is super nice too. 8 spaces across entire account

[zenith hare]

got me to the next thingy

[broken moat]

Where is the bag o.o

[thin iron]

do i keep buying these after the initial 2?

[thin wind]

2nd best prize for scratch off

[broken moat]

I never got it...

[hexed shoal]

Have you gotten slab?

[zenith hare]

up to you as lava may add a joke thing, but if you dont have the storage space no

[thin iron]

yes

[hexed shoal]

Then no

[thin iron]

do i do the 7 books in w5? i've seen people with a bunch of bonuses and i only have 3

[hexed shoal]

Yes

[broken moat]

Bean i wanna craft the claws for journeyman but i need 10 eyes from the W1 shop from boss map. Do you remeber if there is only 1 eye per day limit???

[thin iron]

on repeat? i just got my first 7

[hexed shoal]

If you don't have them in tome already

[zenith hare]

its 1 pre w5

[broken moat]

So 10 days??? Goooshhhh

[zenith hare]

noice

[broken moat]

This is so painful

The grind is real

[hexed shoal]

Meme can you check my IE and tell me what to do for more max book lvls?

[sly nova]

Patient

[broken moat]

Not to mention the W3 craftable bag which requires mammoth bag which drops 1/125k

[hexed shoal]

I got so many talent points gone to waste just cuase I have 155 max lvl

[restive dock]

any ideas to get critters quickly? I can't wait for days just for a critters

[broken moat]

The gold poop at 1/20k drop is a joke now

[broken moat]

Shi y critters or big stacks of normal?

Just use 1 hour traps and spam them

And use hunter special eagly eye to collect

Eagle

[restive dock]

1 hour? I trapped them all 24h 💀

[broken moat]

Just spam 1 hour

As many times as u can

[zenith hare]

what?

[restive dock]

got it, thx for the help

[zenith hare]

what they said is wrong, candies does nothing to traps

[broken moat]

Traps. Critter farming

[zenith hare]

otherwise any afk gain would also impact it

which would mean youd get 20 mins of progress per 2 mins with 10 chars

[broken moat]

I think there is alchemy bubble that boosts critter drops

[zenith hare]

yes

[restive dock]

no no lerim talk bout trap it in 1 hour, not the candies

[zenith hare]

but candy doesnt directly affect traps

[zenith hare]

20 mins is better anyways

[broken moat]

I didnt say anything about candy

[zenith hare]

if its for shinies or critter amount

[broken moat]

Well 20 min is super active

I leave it to 1 hour

[zenith hare]

not really

1 hour is super active too

[broken moat]

Whatever is best for him

[zenith hare]

anything below 8 hours is

[lucid osprey]

best is to be afk forever 😋

[restive dock]

so what should I do for critters now, I have just unlocked 🐀

[zenith hare]

if youre really active, 20 mins, if you can be on every hour, 1 hours, if you get on in the morning and night only, 8 hours, if you only get on once a day, 20 hours

[restive dock]

should I get the trap in tab w2 first or just unlock more type

[zenith hare]

getting silkskin traps is a "get asap" thing

as it ups ur shiny chance, which is rolled once per trap on collect (no matter how much critters are there)

[restive dock]

got it, I gotta try rn

btw what does the minigame do? does it limit playtime per day?

[zenith hare]

it just gives extra bonuses

[lucid osprey]

no, its just bonuses

[fleet gyro]

has anyone had issues getting the first quest for v man complete? I have every mob except for 1 at 1mil kills and it still says im 31 out of 40

[zenith hare]

visit the deathnote on mman

[fleet gyro]

i am and its still 31

[zenith hare]

then its rounding up to 1m kills

when you have slightly less

[fleet gyro]

i needed to leave the area sigh

tysm

[velvet anchor]

once the seige braker flag is placed does it stay forever?

[zenith hare]

no

[fleet gyro]

wow and theres vman that was easy lol

[velvet anchor]

also is there a way to increase the chance of plounderous mob to spawn?

[zenith hare]

vman

[velvet anchor]

how do i mkae it stay longer

[zenith hare]

you cant

fyi it takes 49 days of straight active in the most optimal setup for 1m plunder kills

[velvet anchor]

im just tryna get 75 for rift

lmao

im killing plounderous mobs i think but not getting any flag ?

these are plounderous mobs right?

[gentle eagle]

where are the penguins?

[white lintel]

W3

[gentle eagle]

where in W3 i just ran through maybe im blind

[icy mantle]

dont u have trapper drone

[gentle eagle]

no

[icy mantle]

i unlocked drone when i was trapping crabs bruh

scorpions*

[gentle eagle]

i havent unlocked because ive been upgrading everything else

[icy mantle]

nice unlock that asap

[gentle eagle]

i havent even done scorpions yet either

[icy mantle]

so usefull

[gentle eagle]

i dont have blue salts or scorpions

[velvet anchor]

you need to unlock them in order with hunter guys quest

[gentle eagle]

lmao

[velvet anchor]

if no scorpion no penguin

[gentle eagle]

oh its quest locked

heard heard

[velvet anchor]

NOW WHY TF ARE MY PLOUNDEROUS KILLS NOT WORKING

[icy mantle]

i thought you had scorpions since ur looking for penguins

[gentle eagle]

nah i didnt know it was quest locked

[icy mantle]

its so ez dw

[velvet anchor]

that means you dont even have crabs?

[gentle eagle]

yeah ill just do the quest now

i have crabs

not like that

[icy mantle]

bro doesnt even have frogs

[gentle eagle]

yeah i dont have frogs

[honest cradle]

quest for accuracy going nice, silvered neyeptune eyes and gold sand castles so far

Should make pushing w4 faster

[gentle eagle]

what are you doing?

[velvet anchor]

if you need acc just level up some shaq on alc level up accuracy stat on alc acceracy stat in stamps and stone your tools for acceracy stat

[zenith hare]

ew

[honest cradle]

if only I thought of shaq upgrade huh

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed

[honest cradle]

its too expensive

[zenith hare]

its almost like shaq is a bad upgrade early on!!

it is only a SMALL fee of your entire life savings

for a 20% bonus

[gentle eagle]

my copper print went from 26k to 40k this means i have to redo all my prints 😔

oh god you reminded me of my post office

[velvet anchor]

just unlocked skill mastery my prints probably go burr now

[zenith hare]

after you get passive cards

[honest cradle]

I havent unlocked post office yet

I think I was walled by bloaches and forgot about it

[velvet anchor]

my seige breaker dmg just randomly went burr damn

its now my chunkliest hitter

[strange flare]

What exclusive do you think I’ll get tomorrow

[velvet anchor]

how can you alraedy get one tf

[velvet anchor]

you got any idea why my plounderous kills aint working

[gentle eagle]

wdym they arent working

[velvet anchor]

like im killing the plounder guys i think and my flag aint couinting it

[gentle eagle]

reset the skill? maybe its glitching

[velvet anchor]

wym reset?

[gentle eagle]

i know the flag follows through the portals so maybe you needa reuse the skill

also it doesnt count kills its counts coins

the flag

the skill to the right of it is what it counts

[velvet anchor]

interesting

[gentle eagle]

you need atleast 1 point

[gentle eagle]

huge

[velvet anchor]

lol

[zenith hare]

a duplicate

[zenith hare]

it's only the plunder mobs

[velvet anchor]

well i just finished the rift quets in about 1 minute

[zenith hare]

as I said, it takes 49 days STRAIGHT active to get the 1m plunder kills. it's slow. very slow

[eternal pagoda]

how do I beat final pet battle? is the guide sheet still best option?

[zenith hare]

it's one of the best, tho there is better if you have trasher or peapod

[velvet anchor]

k wait can someone explain how it actully works like why did my flag go up then slowly start to go abck down?

[eternal pagoda]

hmm. guess I need to start going for trash/pod lol I dont have either of those

doing this one at wurms atm. working, but MAN is it slow

[zenith hare]

when you kill a plunder mob, they drop plunder coins. those coins are basically respawn tokens and respawns 2/3 mobs each. for a short period after killing a plunder mob, you also get 1 coin per mob killed

[zenith hare]

it's cause you have near 0 scaling. whale is trash for it

looter scales like 100x faster

and deals it's own damage too

[strange flare]

I don’t have one yet

[eternal pagoda]

yeah, but too far in to want to quit at this point lol.

[velvet anchor]

ok so why was the flag number going down?

[zenith hare]

...cause a mob respawned via the talent

[velvet anchor]

oh ok

so every repawn lowers the flag by one?

[wheat cove]

i need more of THIS.

[zenith hare]

yes

[true hamlet]

Peapod is in w4 right?

[zenith hare]

why no skilled dimwit?

[zenith hare]

first question pet in w4

[wheat cove]

skill exp dosent matter?

[true hamlet]

Ah, it's not that far then

[zenith hare]

if anything you want less skill xp

[true hamlet]

Eff is more important

[wheat cove]

k.

[eternal pagoda]

gonna be a ahot minute before I get peapod lol

[zenith hare]

mman needs to be higher level

[velvet anchor]

what do i need 1 million plounder kills for?

[zenith hare]

the talent is multiplicative Dr, and also there is an achievement

[velvet anchor]

ah

[true hamlet]

I'd probably need a t4 splicer first

[velvet anchor]

so i guss 1 million is the soft cap for dr from plounderous kills

[zenith hare]

nope

it's more that it takes 49 days for another 10% increase in effectiveness

past the first 1m

[velvet anchor]

so soft cap?

[zenith hare]

it's doable so not really

[eternal pagoda]

good start so far lol

[velvet anchor]

im already getting +6% dr lets go

[zenith hare]

its multiplicative

that's a 1.06 multiplier to ur dr

[eternal pagoda]

is arti the first way to uprade meal level cap? or sneaking?

[zenith hare]

artifacts are yeah

[eternal pagoda]

time to stop trying to ancient fury and go for new ones lol

[toxic quartz]

im stuck at the same point

fighting with a 1 in 49 stick

[wheat cove]

oh k mines still 1 in 12000 or something

[toxic quartz]

i just want borger

[wheat cove]

yeah same XDDDD

[lapis lance]

is exp bonus from directional cogs its own multi? if not wouldnt build speed be better?

[worthy bear]

lol didn't know this existed

[sleek bane]

i dont think so but br isnt either so you just want to maximize exp

[eternal pagoda]

man. I cant beat bamboo forest pet battle

[zenith hare]

the team comp youre using is an rng build. you must have first pet to live for like a minute for it to work

[eternal pagoda]

this run might make it. its going okay

[sly nova]

[zenith hare]

wait you have alchemic

[eternal pagoda]

looter killed me last time lol, turned all my shields off

[zenith hare]

read the middle line

[eternal pagoda]

yeah I do

[zenith hare]

this setup is for with alchemic, its just a change in order

it focuses on burst damage basically

that team comp works for 2nd/3rd w6 battle

[south verge]

What are you guys talking about?

[zenith hare]

its the 4th one that needs trasher/peapod

[zenith hare]

territory comps

[eternal pagoda]

tried that one like a dozen times and it kept failing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Hhov6JUA8E

Went with this guys video to give it a shot

[zenith hare]

its cause thats a bad comp

defender is overall worse then trasher

and peapod being closer to the front helps

defender is just easier to get and fully auto

trasher can not get interrupted by alchemic, which is why its used

as it doesnt use projectiles

[eternal pagoda]

this one might go the distance.

[zenith hare]

mayhaps

[south verge]

I've never seen territory comps or that stuff before when is it unlocked?

[zenith hare]

w4

[eternal pagoda]

ayy it worked and all lived lol

[zenith hare]

tsar go boom

[south verge]

Question:anyone know how to get black lens?

[dusty apex]

from the last mob in w3

[eternal pagoda]

rare drop from nyeptunes

[south verge]

Oh

Thanks

[radiant pond]

Does Divine Knight Orb work for Rift Tear? 🤔

[zenith hare]

yes but es is even better for it unless you have a base dr of like 40x

[radiant pond]

I see so Bubo for Skull Points?

[keen dirge]

How do I get ribbons?

[toxic quartz]

DB talent, event shop

[keen dirge]

Okay

[eternal pagoda]

hype

[ebon stratus]

anyone got a guide to get royal sampler? i suck at td 😭

[wraith pollen]

Should I do rift or is that a wait for later thing

[eternal pagoda]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

the pets page

[wraith pollen]

I kinda just spam boulder rollers

[full beacon]

hear me out, "infinite refinery" (at low ranks) is a myth/jebait. the whole leave the salt consumption lower than the power per cycle of the previous salt** is still good advice**, but you're still going to have downtime here and there while trying to rank up, which is functionally the exact same thing as having salt consumption above the power per cycle of the previous salt

[eternal pagoda]

how on earth do I get higher pet power.

[eternal pagoda]

I basically keep my red and green salt on 0% so they always rank up, and once they reach the next tier, I rank up the enxt one. always keeps me with a surplus for the most part

[sleek bane]

Nah but sometimes you’ll dump a lot salt to make gear

[wraith pollen]

There is a small boost from vault I don’t know how big it is but it just boosts damage

[sleek bane]

So can leave refinery empty for a bit but it’s not a big deal imo

[eternal pagoda]

like. this feels impossible lol

[sleek bane]

Use nukes

[eternal pagoda]

my highest nuke is only 32k hahaha

[sleek bane]

3 nuke 1 forager above the territory you want and 4 burger on the territory

[sleek bane]

Doesn’t really matter that much also I got all spices with lower power nukes

[wraith pollen]

Should I worry about doing rift at all in w4 or not quite yet

[eternal pagoda]

There are really good upgrades from rift, but they take a while. Not a bad call to push to w5 so you have more damage, but you can do the first few tiers

[wraith pollen]

I’ve got dmg it’s just I wasn’t sure if it’s a good idea yet or not

[full beacon]

rift is insane if you can dedicate like 2hrs rn to get to lvl 16

all your skilling cards will become accwide passive (assuming you haven't been slacking)

[wraith pollen]

Slacking how

[full beacon]

uhh by not lvling every skill to a minimum of 25 on all 10 chars

oh sorry, 30 not 25, and that's an avg so your primary skillers can compensate for lower people

[wraith pollen]

I only got 8 rn I will need to do some work on cooking, lab, and the w5 ones I just got but besides that I’m kinda slacking on that front but not horribly

[full beacon]

only need the pre w4 ones to follow that requirement

[wraith pollen]

Okay so just catching needs a little love

[full beacon]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/The_Rift#Skill_Mastery

[strange flare]

I made that chart

[zenith hare]

smh

60 when

[strange flare]

60 what

[zenith hare]

rift bonus

[strange flare]

Someday

[wraith pollen]

So I need an average of like 20 to get the first bonus for rn

[full beacon]

yea even getting the first and second are still good, will help get to third even faster

[wraith pollen]

Okay I’m just trying to find what I need to do I’m making the step from casual to more serious

[full beacon]

do all the troll related tasks to get an early injection of merit points

that's like the only one not really time gated

[radiant pond]

the problem is the world bosses arent dropping cards for me ⚰️

[full beacon]

what your dr

[radiant pond]

ran 20 trolls with 10x drop rarity and 0 cards

[full beacon]

I think each new world has higher and higher rate needed

[full beacon]

sounds about right, similar thing to me

[torn tree]

poggers xd

[radiant pond]

problem is I ran it 20 times on trolls and 20 times on kattlekruk ⚰️

0 cards dropped

[torn tree]

wat DR u have ?

[radiant pond]

it was x10 Drop Rarity when I did it

[torn tree]

10, dont see mb

y rng issue sadly

[radiant pond]

tbh I am finding it a problem cause I havent seen any cards drop from Chaotic Chizoar and above for the past 80+ battles

their drop rates on wikia says 1 in 250 ⚰️

so I wasnt sure if I was bugged or what

[zenith hare]

they're very rare, also cdr exists

[alpine scarab]

yea cards are annoying to get

[torn tree]

i was having same DR as u when i get 4 star

wat lvl is ur card stamp ?

[radiant pond]

130

[zenith hare]

and Dr doesn't affect card drops in the way you'd think

[radiant pond]

it has been 130 for quite a long time

[zenith hare]

it does, but at a worse value

[radiant pond]

not enough inventory space

[torn tree]

Use maestro/vman when u up stamp with monster drop

[thin wind]

make sure you level up your stamps that give you more stack space as well.

[alpine scarab]

is there any thing that gives free stamp lvl other then pack and summoning?

[radiant pond]

abit difficult to do so to hit next milestone at this point lmao

[full beacon]

80 chaotic chiz no card sounds like a bug to me lmao

[radiant pond]

yea to be accurate it was 20 normal troll 20 normal kattlekruk 30 chaotic chizoar and 5 chaotic troll or so

I was trying different world bosses cause it wasnt dropping cards

they have the same rate

[full beacon]

can you try amarok normal

just curious if you get like 5 in a single kill

[radiant pond]

chizoar and below all dropped

[full beacon]

damn I guess you really just got bad rng then

[radiant pond]

for some reason chaotic chizoar and above dropped none

yea planning to try it again later

I was even running Vman on all of them

welp

[eternal pagoda]

thanks for this. didnt realize what nuke did. I am getting about 3m xp/hr in all the final spice tiers now

[warm grove]

Fellas I got the evil Scarab card

[gentle eagle]

[restive heath]

I was wondering how he would do in W4 with no classes.

[thin wind]

the one true Jman

[restive heath]

How do I get journeyman?

I honestly got no idea what it is XD

[thin wind]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Secrets

[gentle eagle]

its a secret

[thin wind]

secret class, most people make it as their 7th character

[gentle eagle]

traitor

[restive heath]

Game has too many secrets and jokes I've stopped tracking em XD

[thin wind]

hey at least I didn't teach them about Mman OR EVEN VMAN

[gentle eagle]

Mman and Vman? those arent real what do you mean

[thin wind]

ur right my bad

[gentle eagle]

just a silly gaffer

knee slaps all around

[thin wind]

Well, time to get back to my prints. Need to update them

[wintry flare]

just got DK (first elite sub) what's the first 104 talent points going into?

[full beacon]

a few into orb

the rest into statue prob

1 into the lizard thing too

[wintry flare]

just a few for orb?

I was thinking like 25, people been hyping it up like nuts

[full beacon]

yea you'll max it later but for now a handful is fine

[warm grove]

yeah orb is great but you gotta get up your ability to kill a lot before being able to use its max potential

[wintry flare]

how many is a handful lol, I wanna get this right to start off with

[thin wind]

put one point into each activateable skill. I also maxed out my charred skulls first but idk if that's the best idea. then go and max out the str increase one

[warm grove]

honestly just use 1 point for now

[thin wind]

this is my dk right now, might not be the best point distribution but it's doing ok

[full beacon]

you can ditch that kill per kill thing

very much not as good as multikill stuff in general

[warm grove]

yeah that's probably alright, but kill per kill will be low if your total strength is too

[thin wind]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Divine_Knight

You can check out thresholds for knightly disciple on the wiki. so like 24, 50 and level 77 each add an extra attack.

[thin wind]

I mean there's not much else to put into right now since I'm not W5

[full beacon]

also put 1 point in the symbols of beyond thing, free point for literally every skill

[thin wind]

oh nice, didn't know level 1 added a point automatically. thought you might need to get it to 20 first

[full beacon]

fair, what works works

[wintry flare]

so wait

I put 1 point into each active skill, but where do rest of mine go

[warm grove]

glad to have this extra inventory page so I can hold more axes

[thin wind]

str increase, one point into symbols of beyond. and I guess charred skull isn't too great. so you could put it into imbued shockwave.

[full beacon]

lvl 100 statue lasts for 25s compared to 10s for a lvl 1 statue, that's my fav

if you're playing active dk statue does a lot of legwork

[thin wind]

unless you're getting it to 110, level 100 is useless points

[full beacon]

oh fair, 77 then

[thin wind]

yeah saving 23 points can be huge

but I love my statue. put it in the middle of the map and watch it melt

[wintry flare]

so 77 into statue and then...

[full beacon]

the blue slash thing

that's stonks

[wintry flare]

heard

[thin wind]

Do we not like str increases in this household?

[warm grove]

actually that's stonks

[wintry flare]

I dint need it rn tbh

[thin wind]

Got my str to 300 at least lol

[wintry flare]

I'm already past 300 str

[warm grove]

yeah me too

[full beacon]

hard to quantify but I guess it's nice if it pushed you to a new dmg tier

I kinda prefer active skill lvling for extra targets hit

[wintry flare]

which is objectively better then?

blue slash or str increase

[full beacon]

gotta call in the mathemagicians

I don't think it's gonna impact your life that much

just pick one xD

[wintry flare]

I'll talent reset if it's ass

[thin wind]

I mean blue slash is super nice because it's the same dmg as this skill. so kills a lot of mobs far away from you on basic.

[full beacon]

yea I use that a lot with animation canceling to kill hella mob fast

[warm grove]

shockwave slash is important because your knightly disciple uses the same wave which means that can kill more mobs

[full beacon]

actually didn't know that, good stuff

[thin wind]

once you level up tho it doesn't matter much. you'll have skill points to waste before you reach the end of W5.

[warm grove]

yeah it be like that

[south verge]

Anyone know how to get the fur shirt?

[full beacon]

I'm waiting for the day I don't have to swap preset at all

gonna be real nice

[warm grove]

This one?

[south verge]

I mean how to get the recipe for it but yeah that

[sly nova]

3k+ and 4k+ more statues 🗿

[thin wind]

it's a drop from glublin

[warm grove]

dude them W6 statues take forever

[thin wind]

1/33k so might take a minute

[south verge]

Ok thanks

[sly nova]

2 more 😹

[warm grove]

Yeah the essence on takes forever

[sly nova]

Lol am at 1.5

[warm grove]

your DR is over 2.5x mine so it makes sense

[sly nova]

Yeah make sense

Sorry brada

[warm grove]

maybe someday i'll be there too

[full beacon]

47x

[sly nova]

Got joc?

[warm grove]

jocund?

[sly nova]

Ys

[warm grove]

nope, unfortunately

[sly nova]

You want one?

Where you at

[warm grove]

do you have one for a distinguished individual such as myself?

[sly nova]

.

[warm grove]

salty 3 W1 town

[true hamlet]

yeah he does

[sly nova]

Hold on

[true hamlet]

I should probably start a bit of wraith farming

[warm grove]

truly me

[sly nova]

Take

[warm grove]

omg yippee, now i'm only missing the hardest pet (minus doot)

[true hamlet]

quenchie

[thin wind]

you need one of mine?

[warm grove]

36m kph on gmush now, schows gonna be crazy

[thin wind]

not the doot, the quenchie

[true hamlet]

I'm still missing golem and sammy 😂

[full beacon]

the irony of just talking about your dr being lower

[warm grove]

you have a tradeable quenchie?

[thin wind]

pretty sure

[warm grove]

I will be in your debt if so

thank you daus, you my goat

[strange flare]

More goats

[thin wind]

yeah I have like 7 tradeable quenchies

[warm grove]

lol that's a few

[thin wind]

where you at

[warm grove]

salty 3 W1 town

[sly nova]

Owhh yea i forgor that i give sammy to link

[true hamlet]

I already got a joc, more than I could ask for

[warm grove]

thank you joshsquashy

my DR is gonna be crazy now

[thin wind]

no prob

[full beacon]

[thin wind]

just gotta hope I can get some karma from that and get some cool things

[full beacon]

you have a mallay?

[warm grove]

fr, gonna get you some luck for your wishes

[silver nymph]

You can't hope for karma then it won't come

[thin wind]

yeah why

[full beacon]

oh

nvm was gonna give you one 🤣 dr for dr

[thin wind]

noooooooooooooooo

I mean I got some other pets I need 👀

[full beacon]

uhh hit me

[warm grove]

my guys needs a quenchie for a mallay?

[viral radish]

Damn

[thin wind]

I mean maybe you got a frog lmao

[full beacon]

lol lemme check

[true hamlet]

I have T in skilling preset now, that's pretty nice

[sly nova]

Proceed to continue my statue farm after the trade 😹😹

[true hamlet]

I gave up already, gonna wait till I get the artifact so it's more tempting

[warm grove]

soon to be the actual purple number

[full beacon]

rip, no frog

[thin wind]

dang

10% dmg would go hard

[true hamlet]

yeah, my SB should have it, still quite far from being able to click them bubbles so can't max out a preset

[sly nova]

Lol i got golem yesterday 😹😹

[thin wind]

Ok I guess I should go fix my prints

[sly nova]

Suck rng for a yellow treat

[viral radish]

Gg

[full beacon]

damn you got sidetracked hard

yuou were fixing prints like an hour ago

[thin wind]

yeah i had to go shopping with my gf

[full beacon]

oh haha

[warm grove]

guys we're gonna get something huge I can feel it

[viral radish]

[sly nova]

If i got that cool birb, mally or that axolotl I'll give one free of those 3 exclusive

😹😹😹

[viral radish]

Wild

[warm grove]

I got the cool bird third try, kinda the one I need the least but 4x coins is still quite nice

[sly nova]

[true hamlet]

btw ty for Joc Daus, my speedrun highscore went from 61 to 68

[sly nova]

[warm grove]

I completely forgot that jocund would be crazy for speedruns

[sly nova]

Nice mkpt multi

[true hamlet]

now I have points to max out more talents 😄

[sly nova]

Go 75

Beat me 😭

[true hamlet]

not there yet, probably once I get the mkpt from hole

[viral radish]

Hm, pets are quite useful huh

[true hamlet]

niceeee

[sly nova]

Get more statue for that flat mkp

[warm grove]

Haven't done a speedrun in a while, but I don't wanna talk about it anyways

[sly nova]

AHHAHA

[warm grove]

[true hamlet]

There's a lot of things I have to do..

[sly nova]

I thought that the birb was dawgshet

[full beacon]

that's a lot of boost

[sly nova]

But no 👎

[full beacon]

I guess my dream of 1 preset will be shattered once my lvl cap goes up again

[true hamlet]

Yeah, I maxed out my Balance of Pain prayer too so that was pretty nice

[warm grove]

vman getting 22m kph on gmush now, think the last speedrun I did was at like 3m max

[viral radish]

It is the coin one right?

[sly nova]

Yes

[viral radish]

I see

[thin wind]

worst part about fishing prints is trying to figure out which line and bait work best for each fish

[warm grove]

probably the best one for early game players trying to level vault

[warm grove]

give me a sec I got a sheet for it

[viral radish]

If you figure that out, lmk too 😭😭

[full beacon]

too much min maxing for me xD I just ran around with gold line and elephant for all of them

[true hamlet]

I feel like I'm in quite a good spot in terms of my gear now

[thin wind]

lol nice

[warm grove]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QSu7l7rOUBGue7NDXJFsEvo3n9BgXcnahuAPMFP9NRw/
Go here, go to fishing, and its at the bottom

[thin wind]

well the difference can be pretty big if you switch the depths up

[viral radish]

I can't get the elephant cause not enough blue vials 😭😭

[thin wind]

thanks man

[true hamlet]

I'm starting to go down the list and maxing all the easy vials

[full beacon]

I guess targetting the lowest print is prob the play for lazy gamer like me

[warm grove]

it's my thanks for the quenchie

[full beacon]

so kraken

[thin wind]

I mean I'm going to spend so much time switching gears and setting it up. I might as well makeit good

[warm grove]

so real, it takes me like 2 actual days to sample with preparation

[viral radish]

Thanks, idk if it will help magically increase my blouch prints tho 😭🤣

[thin wind]

I got POE 2 new expansion tomorrow as well so I probably won't do prints again until next tuesday after my work week is done

[warm grove]

sounds fire

[thin wind]

it can. I mean I put on the heavy weight one and my blouch went up 4x

[viral radish]

How much are you printing?

[thin wind]

227 before my current reprint

[viral radish]

What is considered mid w4?

[full beacon]

idk either tbh

[thin wind]

I just wrote it down cause some people have like (early W6) and stuff. I'm just like mid W4 of maps

[viral radish]

[true hamlet]

like maybe 200k log prints kind of thing

[warm grove]

completely fair

[sleek bane]

Some people are trolling, some people mean map progression, some people mean autoreview progression

[true hamlet]

I guess it's time for my vman to put in the work

[full beacon]

I consider myself mid w4 even though I have w6 unlocked just cuz I've barely made a dent on cooking and breeding

[thin wind]

Y'all trying to distract me from printing!

[thin wind]

oh maybe I should be mid W1 😭

[warm grove]

mb, take some of my PI bloaches

[true hamlet]

that's kinda good just starting off

[viral radish]

I mean your blouch prints is 5x mine so probably mid w4 indeed lmao

[sleek bane]

Blue?

[full beacon]

hahaha nahhh I feel like you prob at least decently through alch and stuff already

[warm grove]

lab bonus

[thin wind]

gimme like 3 minutes it'll be 5x

[true hamlet]

the frost relic in sailing could be quite good too

[hybrid sleet]

anybody has a good pet arena setup to unlock the 6th slot? THe one in the google doc failed me

[warm grove]

maybe next time

[true hamlet]

I mean, I used the one HarbingerIV showed off in his YT video, just took off the whale

[viral radish]

Mind sending your it acc? I wanna see where I am missing what cause my blouch prints sucks ass

[hybrid sleet]

no idea who this person is

[thin wind]

I'll get roasted so hard man

[viral radish]

Rip 😭

[warm grove]

you got boost foods on as well as royal sampler?

[coral sand]

Sounds like someone hasn't been doing their Roo

[true hamlet]

probably want to get fisheroo up

[viral radish]

😨

[true hamlet]

Trying searching up HarbingerIV arena 200 in yt

[thin wind]

Ok yeah i'm not sending my account cause my roo will get obliterated and I'll have to cry myself to sleep

[warm grove]

omg I havent done roo yet today gotta get on that

[true hamlet]

This was huge early on for my bloach prints

[viral radish]

Dm me ong 😭
It can't be worse than mine

[radiant pond]

How does: Kill A Lava Skull Monster On 2 Chars. Skulls Spread Half The Time. work?

[true hamlet]

I managed to grab a 20 bloach print in w2 with the help

[viral radish]

Okay I am at 3, how many i should go for

[warm grove]

dang this guy's also at megafish 20

[true hamlet]

fractal 1 or 2 minimally

[full beacon]

is that why fishing feels the slowest out of the core skills

cuz my roo is shart?

[true hamlet]

I forgot it existed until someone brought up bloach

[viral radish]

By fractal 1, you mean +1 of the last megafish?

[true hamlet]

yeah

[viral radish]

😨😨

[true hamlet]

You're in w5 yet?

[viral radish]

W4

[radiant pond]

Is there any tips and tricks to complete: Kill A Lava Skull Monster On 2 Chars. Skulls Spread Half The Time.?

Cause I dont understand it at all

[true hamlet]

unlocking stamp doubler and vial doubler is pretty nice too

[viral radish]

I just unlocked my 7th character yesterday 😭

[true hamlet]

I don't have the infographic saved

[full beacon]

you want to kill mobs with skulls over their head to make the skull spread to nearby mobs, there's a chance it upgrades in rarity each time too. don't kill every mob on the map or the skull wont' have a chance to spread

[viral radish]

Chizoar is being a bitch and won't drop the stamp
My stamp luck is very ass

I will get the sample sampler one from trash island tho

[true hamlet]

ah ok

stamps are pretty balls until w6 imo, so can ignore that

Skilling stamps*

[viral radish]

I am around 40% print sample size thingy
Ykw I mean?

[true hamlet]

do you not have royal sampler?

[warm grove]

dang that's crazy to say, stamps can be a nice bit of account boost even before W6

[viral radish]

With royal sampler 😭

[true hamlet]

skilling one is pretty mid, combat and misc are fine

[viral radish]

I have to go get stamps because my stamp game is very bad

[radiant pond]

uh so what colour is the lava skull red?

[true hamlet]

That jade emporium upgrade for level exmption is neat

[warm grove]

oh yeah I forgot about that

[viral radish]

It's 40 with the royal sampler and the 17% from the sample talent
😭

[true hamlet]

9.7k stamps, still haven't killed ceramics

[coral sand]

If you think that's bad, try being me opening literal hundreds of sailing chests with 3%-10% arti chance and still no arti

[indigo stratus]

The one that looks like lava

[viral radish]

😭😭
Hope you get some soon

[warm grove]

dw, I just got past that less than a week ago

[thin wind]

man I only tripled my bloaches. shame

[viral radish]

Wild

[warm grove]

hole bonus would have helped a lot

[sly nova]

Better than me 💔

[true hamlet]

that's pretty neat, I just need a few more gilded stamps and I'll be at 10k, as for pushing (I hate pushing)

[warm grove]

completely fair but after skydoggies its easy

[true hamlet]

I'm getting like 1m kph on ceramics, but I kinda want to grab that measurer bonus for mkpt, I think it looks pretty decent

But gear wise I should be fine

[viral radish]

Slide me your it acc no joke 😭
Need that to see where I am messing up

[thin wind]

ok one sec

[warm grove]

1m kph on ceramics on which character? seems a bit low but I guess that's why you haven't pushed yet

[true hamlet]

it's 25m on the portal, I'm getting it on most

[coral sand]

That's better than what I was doing lazily atp. You could easily push Shaq into the 20s-30s over the course of a week

[thin wind]

might just be pet difference. but making sure you got the right bubbles on or sheepie is a big deal. cards, fishing gear, putting on the right foods. printer bonus % is good, like from the worships

[warm grove]

you using nobi on any of your guys? it can make a good difference if you only focus on pushing for a while

[thin wind]

what's shaq?

[true hamlet]

yeah I got nobi, My mkpt is pretty low though so I'm trying to grab the measurer bonus

[coral sand]

Shaquracy

[warm grove]

ah ok, if you have a decent amount of gems and don't have any perma bonuses you really want at the moment you can roll W6 card packs for this boss card

[true hamlet]

I really need to push hole first though, it's just something I've been putting off

[true hamlet]

yeah no, I've got better things to get rn

[thin wind]

oh yeah that one, sorry lol didn't realize what you meant

[warm grove]

yeah its completely fair, only for people who are already all set

[viral radish]

Hm, I do need to upgrade my royal sampler, maybe the fish pendant would help and I do think my card set while sampling fishing were wrong but it won't be as high as that..
Well I am f2p so by the time I get sheepie, I would already be late game

[true hamlet]

dmg multi and mkpt emp would be nice but I think it's about out of the budget

[warm grove]

yeah, permanent bonuses are usually better anyways

[true hamlet]

You can check it out for yourself: https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=jiofjioaejfdkn

[coral sand]

Could also get into a freeish Nobi with Hole or ES Polytheism

[white lintel]

if someone has one you could prob get for basically free

[thick storm]

Hello, I'm pushing world 4 on my DK and starting to fall behind on accuracy, among other things I am trying to level up the alchemy bubble Shaqurracy, but I feel like I'm doing something wrong as my bloaches income is very very low, I fish on my Barbarian the skill is level 40 and using a golden fishing rod. Any tips to improve bloaches catching please?

[full beacon]

if you get any premium gear from events that affect all afk% or stuff like that, make sure you steal them from your main to equip while redoing prints on every char

[true hamlet]

I thing the biggest thing holding me back is hole progress, regardless of whether it is or not, I really need to get my monuments up (especially justice to at least 10k)

[viral radish]

My friend who got me in the game does not have any dupe pets and I don't want to ask around for pets lmao
That just sounds cheap

[warm grove]

bloaches has always been super low on early game fishing so dw about it too much

[thin wind]

Wis stat is a huge increase. cards are great. Meme_bean has a great copy paste I can try to find

[viral radish]

Yeaa

[warm grove]

yeah hole definitely has some huge bonuses, i've been focusing on pushing a lot and now just need to get to gambit for the atoms

[viral radish]

Alright 😭

[thick storm]

Please and thank you

[coral sand]

Upgrade Fishing Rod, use Fish Speed Food, buff up sample size

[true hamlet]

Yeah, my bravery is about to hit 2k, and justice not even at 100

[warm grove]

[true hamlet]

I'm getting to bravery 2k then thinking of moving to justice?

[white lintel]

for something like sheepie its not really cheap, but for something like doot, sam guard, rift slug, etc, that I understand

[thin wind]

if you do W4 upgrade stones on a wizard you can get wis as main stat. which can be a lot of stats, you can put it on tools, gears. and that can be 100+wis

[true hamlet]

And I should be unlocking c11 in 1 or 2 days so that could be pretty decent

[warm grove]

yeah jars are interesting

[true hamlet]

I'm at the stage where I should probably respec my opals and dump all into 1 villager (haven't really gotten any hole progress so it has been even spread out for a while)

[thick storm]

I'll do that now, I'm 3d printing bloaches twice, 14/h each, you reckon I should try to get that higher?

[true hamlet]

I'll go have a better look at the bonuses first though, make sure I don't level into something I can't access

[thin wind]

cards you can get for acc are Sand castle, Neypteune, Wood mushroom from W1. Wis stats are penquin, worm from W4, stick from W1. W3 card set is % acc

[coral sand]

Oh yeah forgot roo too

[thin wind]

14h bloaches is really bad. you can probably get more if you adjust your fishing gear. and make sure you are fishing on your blood berserker/barb since they have fishing stats. for that make sure your str stat is high and you got your star sign for multi-fish

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QSu7l7rOUBGue7NDXJFsEvo3n9BgXcnahuAPMFP9NRw/edit?gid=1831108187#gid=1831108187

this is a checklist you can use to see what you can do to improve

[thick storm]

Awesome thank you

[tidal ibex]

is it worth putting majority of your characters aside for early w4 in labs instead of skilling?

[thin wind]

have you watched griffy's printer video yet? that could help you understand which bonusese you should and can get

[thick storm]

I did, felt like It's very late game oriented

[thin wind]

yeah you should put all your characters into lab basically. you don't want to skill them too far because if you do it'll be rough for your maestro to be R1

[thin wind]

Mostly focus on what you can get. So like the printer sample from TD, it's huge bonus and it's not the worst to get. You just need level 30 worship and you can use the !guide sheet TD to get acorns to level 20.

[tidal ibex]

all of it in including journeyman and pusher?

or leave main pusher and everyone in lab?

[thin wind]

Jman shouldn't be in lab, pusher should be pushing. Jman should skill to get them to R1 in all your W1-W3 skills

[tidal ibex]

what is R1?

[thin wind]

R1 is number one in the skill across accoutn.

[gentle eagle]

R 1 stands for rank 1 in that skill

[thin wind]

so basically you want Jman/maestro to have R1 in mining, fishing, trapping, chopping, bugging, worship, and smithing

[tidal ibex]

ahh ok, why is that the case would you mind explaining

does he have a buff in maestro?

[thin wind]

maestro has ability to increase efficiency and exp gain of everyone below him

[true hamlet]

Pretty good for w4 I must say

[tidal ibex]

oh ok, so essentially Jman is gonna be skilling most of the time?

[thin wind]

this is so that you can take higher prints. so if your miners are above Jman you're losing a lot of efficiency

[cold trench]

I'm at lullaby airways and I can't meet the combat power req. Anyone have a good setup to help?

[thin wind]

R1 is super easy you just use balloons and leave afk

[warm grove]

put tsars above with borgers in the territory, with the pet type that supports the borgers in the territory above

[true hamlet]

Book the 2 talents, that's like a 20% increase for samples

At least the skilling one

[cold trench]

Thx

[warm grove]

so lullaby airway should have 4 borgers, and above is probably 3 tsars

[cold trench]

I have 3 borger with one star which worked

[warm grove]

yeah then you don't need more tsars, just get more gathering speed for that territory

[strong vessel]

Hi

I need help with something

[thin wind]

go ahead

[strong vessel]

What class you say i can do next

Look

[thin wind]

if you press shift windows key S you can take screenshot on computer

[full beacon]

definitely journeyman

[strong vessel]

O thank

[full beacon]

||https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Journeyman||

[thin wind]

Yeah make a jman

[strong vessel]

Ok

[thin wind]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

people use this for class, but I here 2x Siege breaker isn't as good anymore

[strong vessel]

What i pud

What name

[full beacon]

Wigwam Jman

[thin wind]

Something so cool and baddass that people gasp when they see your name

[strong vessel]

Ni**a

[full beacon]

bruh

[strong vessel]

This one

Is cool

[full beacon]

don't get banned

[strong vessel]

Whow is call the admin

Joshy

Is better

Dora

Thank

Sombody

Can gevn one name

[coral sand]

Nah this Discord my guy. Land of the "Discord Mods" meme. Don't matter how much melanin you got, sooner or later they WILL bonk you for using that word

[nova quail]

Hey guys whats the next step after void armour???

[full beacon]

I believe you want to aim for full troll set on every char rather than going farther in the ore-based armors tree

[nova quail]

@full beacon really? i would think to go lustre? howcome do you go troll?

[white lintel]

Troll, basically, could get head and chest of Chiz if you really wanted to but meh

Luster is ass

[full beacon]

the substats increase is waydank than def%

[azure bramble]

i have 3k kph in w4 portal 2 and just 600 khp in portal 4, what can i do for more kph?

[full beacon]

dmg => dmg tier => multikill per dmg tier

[true hamlet]

Defense is not an issue

[nova quail]

@true hamlet true

then after troll then what??

[true hamlet]

And once you get troll you probably don't have to worry about armor

[thin wind]

do you have 100% survivabilitY? if not equipe FOOD from shop

[true hamlet]

Upgrade all the way to godshard, you'll know when you get there

[thin wind]

if it's accuracy you need to work on your accuracy. and if it's damage then you should invest in damage

[true hamlet]

Trolls is the current "endgame" armor line

[azure bramble]

whats the food?

[thin wind]

can you send screen shot of afk kill screen and maybe stats?

[thin wind]

W4 shop

[full beacon]

I want some spicy ribs

[azure bramble]

w4 portal 4

[thin wind]

well it's accuracy 100%

[thin wind]

what class are you?

[azure bramble]

wizard

[true hamlet]

Woah thats pretty.. low

[white lintel]

Make amarok armor and upgrade it with secondary stats using w4 stats on an alt character to get the acc stat on your pushing class

[azure bramble]

kk

select class?

[thin wind]

invest into agi stat to increase your wizards accuracy. you can get cards as well. if you want a main pusher most people tell you to go DK so that you can have more accuracy. since DK has a lot of accuracy

[true hamlet]

Oh yeah, the fact that you have no prayers equipped is concerning too

[azure bramble]

whats prayers?

im new

and plus i dont speak a lot of english

[thin wind]

this is accuracy I have for W4

[full beacon]

send which ones you have unlocked

you might need to play some td after buffing up construction

[azure bramble]

a lot more than me

shit equipment

[thin wind]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed

[thin nymph]

i finally beat that god forsaken w2 boss

[thin wind]

make these gears from first boss. they're best for every class for a while. then upgrade them with stones

[thin nymph]

world 3 baby

[azure bramble]

i dont have obols, prayers, star signs, and po boxes

[azure bramble]

kk

[thin wind]

@azure bramble Upgrade the Amarok gear using these on a warrior to get STR stat on the armor. This will increase your mages Accuracy for pushing.

[strange flare]

The copypasta!!

[azure bramble]

okay ty

[thin wind]

Amarok gear is unlocked in W1 task unlocks section. Gear is found in anvil level one.

[azure bramble]

yes i have it unlocked

but i think im not using a lot of things

from here

[thin wind]

ok good, for cards that give accuracy you have neyptune, sand castle and mushroom from tree. These 3 cards give str thatwill give your wizard accuracy

[full beacon]

you can make amarok necklace too, it's actually pretty dope for early game

[azure bramble]

okay

[thin wind]

have you done owl @azure bramble ? Gives a lot of raw stats and damage. and getting to around 10 of the last megafeather only takes a little bit

[azure bramble]

yes i have it but no maxed

[thin wind]

yeah you should try to level last feather up around 7 more times

shouldn't take more than 4 hours

[atomic flower]

Take more than 4 months

[thin wind]

I did 13 feathers in one night

[atomic flower]

I'm too lazy

[warm grove]

anything 24 and below doesn't really take all that long

[coral sand]

Invest into WHAT stat?

[thin wind]

yeah after like 31 is when I started noticing it takes forever

[azure bramble]

strenght

[thin wind]

str?

[atomic flower]

Strength

[coral sand]

Agi is the accuracy stat for Wizards tho?

[thin wind]

Fuuuck, sorry my bad I looked at the sheet wrong lmao

[azure bramble]

nop

[gentle eagle]

wizards use agi for accuracy

[atomic flower]

Yes

[thin wind]

nah it is agi lol

[radiant pond]

might as well just recommend him to start building up a squire for progression purposes

[thin wind]

yeah basically

[atomic flower]

[sly nova]

Give me 24 hours to onyx that w6 statue 💔💔

[atomic flower]

[coral sand]

Dw, you can use the Do Over Vault Upgrade to unfuck this if necessary

[atomic flower]

Billy not here

[sly nova]

[radiant pond]

Billy deaded

[azure bramble]

ok i have all the amarok armor

i have to enchant with the archer for mage?

[sly nova]

[atomic flower]

What's enchant?

[coral sand]

No

[sly nova]

Infinity

[azure bramble]

upgrades i mean

[sly nova]

Unbreaking

[radiant pond]

just start enchanting with your mage and building a squire to rush w6 🤣

[atomic flower]

Unbreakable XII

[sly nova]

Why everyone rush to w6?

🗿

[coral sand]

The one using the upgrade stones applies THEIR main stat meaning you have to do it on the respective characters thems

[atomic flower]

Bc they have no mean

[strong vessel]

Hi who you get goldeinnh

[radiant pond]

I rushed and it has been 2 weeks since I am in world 6 and still waiting for the skills to actually grow ⚰️

[strong vessel]

Golden peanut

[sly nova]

You need lot to do when farming

[strong vessel]

How you get that

[atomic flower]

Craft

[sly nova]

Alchemy

[indigo stratus]

Check wiki

[strong vessel]

Who you get the craft

[sly nova]

Everything depends on alchemy

[radiant pond]

yep I rushed it there and let it run itself for the early phase

[indigo stratus]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Golden_Peanut

[sly nova]

W6 with under 5k bubble is like a lifeless body