midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[pale thicket]

fighting oranges with a dk

[indigo stratus]

Surprising ngl

[sour sail]

Oh ok...

I thought i could push w4

[sour sail]

?

[ripe coyote]

u could still do stuff like lab, cooking and breeding

[cerulean meteor]

how much defense you have now

[sour sail]

396 i think

[cerulean meteor]

yea i think that aint going to fly, level up stamps and alchemy, and get amarok with w3 stones if you havent alr

[sour sail]

Ok

[cerulean meteor]

FMJ and Shaquaracy are your best friends

[ripe coyote]

Cooking my favorite thing about W4 cause of the boosts that food give lol

[cerulean meteor]

same, tho lab is a close second

[sour sail]

Ok, i have done the amarok thi g already

[stray hornet]

if you can go for it

[ripe coyote]

I only started focusing lab literally after I pushed W5

[sour sail]

Shaq? Doesn't that give acc? I think i have enough

[cerulean meteor]

yea, tho i do it anyway

[sour sail]

I have 50 1hr time candies i think i can

[ripe coyote]

Omar would be happy to hear that

[sour sail]

It needs bloaches, i havn't done fishing at all

[cerulean meteor]

rookie numbers

[ripe coyote]

[sour sail]

Im at w3?...

[cerulean meteor]

yeah you shouldnt be ingoring an entire skill

[cerulean meteor]

hence the

[ripe coyote]

Wait do u even have anvil tab 3???

[indigo stratus]

If you're w3, 3d print what you need

[sour sail]

❌❌❌❌❌

[indigo stratus]

For both refinery and bubbles

[ripe coyote]

Bro go do fishing rn

[cerulean meteor]

work on that then

[cerulean meteor]

you shouldnt be ignoring an entire skill

[sour sail]

✅

[ripe coyote]

Pushing w3 to 4 with anvil tab 2 is so criminal

[cerulean meteor]

anyways can we keep it on topic

[sour sail]

I pushed w2 with anvil tab 1

[indigo stratus]

3d printing huge, my last sample was nearly 20b base copper ore per hour, and them rookie numbers

[ripe coyote]

that doesnt matter xD

[cerulean meteor]

im saying that because i got booted to #idleon-gen-chat earlier because of stuff

[ripe coyote]

it's W2

[sour sail]

With the spear...

[ripe coyote]

[sour sail]

Ill probably (maybe) be fine

[remote steppe]

I pushed w5 with anvil tab 2

Worked fine

[blazing arch]

i was mid w6 before i got tab 4

[sour sail]

Guys does the frisbee ring or whatever its called give 30 acc?

[viscid quartz]

i just got my 8th character, whats my safest option for class? (like not affected by meta or whatever) im thinking dk or es

[sour sail]

Dk prob

[sour sail]

Yea this

[blazing arch]

assuming you alr got 1 of each 6 elite class and a beginner yea

[sour sail]

Need this in my life

[viscid quartz]

why even

[sour sail]

accuracy

[viscid quartz]

work on roo and good class upgrade stones

im late w4 and still 100% accuracy

[sour sail]

Not roo😭😭

Orion would be better

Imo

[viscid quartz]

i HATE roo but it took me like 3 days to get 60% accuracy

[stray hornet]

what is roo

[remote steppe]

fishing clicker

[sour sail]

I dont wanna😭😭😭😭

[viscid quartz]

3 megafish and i get these

[stray hornet]

oh yeah he sucks

[sour sail]

I hate roos mechanics, just make it like orion

[stray hornet]

fr

[viscid quartz]

it scales pretty nice after 6th fish

which is still alot

3 days of checking on it 😭

[sour sail]

It probably does but its actually so boring man

My eyes would burn

[viscid quartz]

but dude 60% accuracy is nothing to scoff at

i tripled my accuracy by doing this and alchemy

its stupid but worth it

[sour sail]

They made roo so boring

[sour sail]

Forget alchemy ill just do this

Does orion give acc?

[viscid quartz]

its + all stats i think dont know if it affects accuracy

i have 13 feathers and its +100

so not too much either

[sour sail]

It probably does, i had 2k before now i have 4k

[sour sail]

😎

[viscid quartz]

i went from 3,5k to 15k just by doing roo,alchemy,w4 upgrade stones

[sour sail]

Still gave me alot

[viscid quartz]

itll really slow down after 6th feather

[sour sail]

Sheesh

Wait a second

I haven't been collecting amaroks boss keys this whole time

[round flower]

Peak

I'm too lazy to upgrade that owl

I only upgrade the kangaroo 🙏🙏

[viscid quartz]

i love owl

fuck roo though

[sleek bane]

owl is so much better than roo

[indigo stratus]

Owl is quick and easy

[sleek bane]

you can turn your brain off for owl

[round flower]

Finally have almost complete set

Just missing samurai then I'm good

[indigo stratus]

Roo is trying to get shiny fish for multi

[sour sail]

After i got 1 mega feather i just locked in and got 5 more, then sleeped now. Look at that

[round flower]

I ain't waiting for allat💔

[round flower]

My roo is on Trillions now

[viscid quartz]

said the roo lover 😭

its just gambling without the fun bro how do you like roo

[round flower]

Hey it's much easier💔

[round flower]

He's just that dawg also because I love fishing

[sour sail]

Roo is Absolute garbage, orion is 10/10 best thing in the game

[sleek bane]

roo is not easier than owl bro

[round flower]

🧢

[candid summit]

made it past round 35! i did die immediately after but im glad to have hit that milestone

[viscid quartz]

exactly

[sour sail]

😭🙏

[viscid quartz]

3 agonizing days for 3 megafish, never again

[round flower]

I always be a roo lover

That man made my skills go crazy

[sour sail]

It takes like 8 hours for what i got

[round flower]

[viscid quartz]

but at what cost

my sanity is long gone

[round flower]

My afk time

[sour sail]

Roo is just... Bad

[round flower]

If any of you got spare samurai hit me up

[round flower]

🧢

[viscid quartz]

🧢 🧢

[sour sail]

💀

[round flower]

Nuh uh

Anyways back to grinding

[sour sail]

Orion can give you alot of bonuses fast while roo just takes an eon to even get one megafish

You have to be VERY I MEAN VERY patient to get alot of bonuses tbh

[viscid quartz]

roo bonuses do more though..coming from a roo hater

[sour sail]

Orion for the people that dont wanna wait

[sour sail]

Ik but it takes a while, orion takes less time, but less bonuses ig

[viscid quartz]

look at the difference

13 feathers vs 3 fish, roo is so much better but still fuck you roo

[sour sail]

I dont even know if i can stand to do roo tbh

[viscid quartz]

once you get stuck in alchemy you will be forced to 💔

[sour sail]

I kinda dont understand its upgrades do to

[viscid quartz]

just focus shiny fishes

[sour sail]

Good thing alchemy hasn't cought me

[sour sail]

K

[sour sail]

What do i do after first megafish?

[viscid quartz]

focus all your upgrades on your accuracy stat like wisdom for warriors

and shaquracy

[sour sail]

Rn im doin that got like 50 points in wis

[viscid quartz]

not sure if its better but dont use the prestige too much use like 2 megafish per reset

cause that also counts as a reset

[sour sail]

Wdym?

[viscid quartz]

like its sometimes better to wait for greatest catch instead of fisheroo reset, both count as a prestige and give you points

[sour sail]

Greatest catch is a upgrade? It gives like more bonuses or sumin?

[viscid quartz]

its like the megafeather

resets everything

[sour sail]

So its megafish

[sleek bane]

it is always better to wait for greatest catch

unless you are on super high fractal

[sour sail]

And fishroo reset is like it reset some upgrades but gives like 5x more fish?

[viscid quartz]

its not 5x here its prestige points you spend for bonuses, not too worth the reset

[viscid quartz]

in my experience got stuck at the first few fish and had to reset, no idea if it was optimal but it helped

[sour sail]

Ok so never fishroo reset?

[sleek bane]

maybe bad point distribution

but you can reset points now so its a lot easier

[viscid quartz]

probably yeah i didnt follow any guide

[sleek bane]

theres a guide in pins in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳

[torn burrow]

My step sister is in w6 and has less xd

[sour sail]

Wait is prestige points where you click the button on the pond and choose where to put the points in?

[viscid quartz]

its the bonuses button under the pond yeah

[sour sail]

Wat about roo?🤨🤨🤨🤨

[sour sail]

I used all the 10 points i had

[chrome herald]

Should I keep all my chars in lab that aren't pushing?

[sour sail]

Yes

[sly nova]

Flatline

[sour sail]

Guys roo vs orion?

[chrome herald]

Even my db?

[sour sail]

Idk

[chrome herald]

Bruh

[sour sail]

Bro im in w3 ask in like w6 chat

[chrome herald]

Mf

[sour sail]

💀

[chrome herald]

Anyways bb and db can cook so I think it can be asked here

[mint furnace]

If you're w3 don't give advice on w4 ;-;

[sour sail]

Alot of w6 people told me to put all my chars that arent pushing to lab so i just told him that

But i think db is good so idk

[mint furnace]

Db should be active farmer
Bb passive farmer

[torn burrow]

Not all I think

[chrome herald]

I use my dk to push w6

[torn burrow]

Those aren't that important in the long term so don't over emphasize them

[sour sail]

How many mega feathers she got?🤨

[chrome herald]

My dk and db are in the same area tho

[torn burrow]

All but not 14

[chrome herald]

I assumed I should still have db cooking

[sour sail]

Btw roo vs orion

[torn burrow]

I mean owl only good for Dr later game, fish gives afk gains and some nice small things

Just do both a little bit

[sour sail]

No i meant if you had to choose one

[tidal ibex]

for trapping, should all characters do it or the specialized one?

[indigo stratus]

All

[honest cradle]

is there a place I can look to see the armor I should have at the begginning of w3? I assume there is a bis for each class

[indigo stratus]

They all get trapping exp and rewards

[remote steppe]

Oh my god i know you

[tidal ibex]

what do you mean by that? its account wide?

[remote steppe]

I saw arithemonkey in this discord a few days ago too

[indigo stratus]

W1 boss gear should get you thru to w4 or w5. Minus helm bc it's difficult to craft

[indigo stratus]

No, each character can place traps.

[honest cradle]

Ok so just get amarok armor?

[indigo stratus]

Each trap gives critters

[tidal ibex]

is there a way to place traps w/o actively running to the location each character

[indigo stratus]

W3, in construction, trapper drone

[tidal ibex]

sweet thanks

[remote steppe]

Trapping drone or something

[indigo stratus]

Yes, and do owl/roo. Will give you enough to push far w/ that

And vault upgrades

[honest cradle]

I got to the last megafeather, got 2

[sleek bane]

vault + clickers = exodia combo for rushing w6

[honest cradle]

What is roo?

[sleek bane]

w2 clicker

[indigo stratus]

W2 fishing clicker

[honest cradle]

ok I asusme thats in the wiki

Will check it out

[indigo stratus]

Poppy, same thing

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Poppy_the_Kangaroo_Mouse's_Fish_Pond

[honest cradle]

My first 4 characters are all over 110 bc I opened the game 2 years ago and I got 2 years of afk in w1

So I was able to brute force some progress so far

[remote steppe]

I started the game 2 weeks ago and opened to 4 years of afk oak tree LMAO

[indigo stratus]

With those two and vault, w6 in no time

[honest cradle]

How many megafeathers should I spend time farming?

[remote steppe]

At least unlock them all

[sleek bane]

as many as you can do in a reasonable amount of time

[ancient arch]

does this mean there's actually a storage cap? or just that this is at the max atomize threshold of 1050

[sleek bane]

just means you're making atoms from 1050m cap yea

[honest cradle]

https://i.imgur.com/zjrCYET.png
I got this last night, I used to me obsesseed with these incremental games lmao

[ancient arch]

can someone ping me every single day for this i should have looked ahead

[white lintel]

you can set a reminder on your phone 🥰

[ancient arch]

lol i was doing that as you sent it

just fml i hate the chip and jewl rota system

[carmine lake]

Chat whats the strat for 4 pet arena

5 pet*

[round flower]

Chat can someone help me on this quest?

[thin wind]

around other players you'll have to type that phrase into chat. so like go to a populated server and town and then type it out in chat in that way.

[indigo stratus]

Works wonders at happy hour

Go to populated dungeon server, tp to w1, should have it done

[honest cradle]

Ye getting that amarok gear and gold bow just went from not living at cryo snakes to 10m xp an hour

appreciate

[indigo stratus]

No problem, don't sleep on owl and roo early game either

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

👋🏿

[agile nimbus]

how much def do i need to not get hit by biggie hours?

[mint rivet]

go to w1 town and just go through all pizza servers until u get it

[mint rivet]

wiki has that

[mint rivet]

btw you can get 2 of these a day with some upgrades

[candid summit]

i have two giant green snowmen in tower defense that wont die but theyre pinned down by bouncing eyeballs what do

[remote steppe]

So are you gonna greenstack these or what

[mint rivet]

yep..soon

[mint rivet]

that means they outheal ur dmg, u got slowroast wiz?

[candid summit]

whats that?

[mint rivet]

out-heal = they heal more hp/s than the amount of dmg/s you do

[candid summit]

i mean slow roast

ive been changing my towers out a lot

trying to find something to work

[mint rivet]

and slowroast wiz is an equinox upgrade, +1% per level, initial cap is 5

its MANDATORY for TD in later stages

waves get to trillions of HP, without this u can't do anything later on

[agile nimbus]

how to get up as a jman?

[candid summit]

no of course not
im doing this to unlock more equinox stuff, gotta reach lvl50

[remote steppe]

Just do the quest

[agile nimbus]

isnt that gonna give me a subclass?

[remote steppe]

What subclass would it give you

[viscid quartz]

barbarian journeyman obviously

[candid summit]

hell just skip that part and say cool subclass and throw the rope

i think, iirc

[remote steppe]

Yeah pretty much

[mint rivet]

basically doubled my speed bcs of 1 meal

[viscid quartz]

guys how do i start lab stuff? completely avoided that mechanic and all the guides are later setups

[ancient arch]

sweet lord

[mint rivet]

put all chars except ur pusher in lab

[remote steppe]

Just leave some guys in there to get xp

[ancient arch]

are you at or past w5?

[candid summit]

so aside from a perk im like 10 clouds from getting, am i fucked?

[mint rivet]

are you w6?

[viscid quartz]

im like 4 maps off w5 rn

[mint rivet]

or w3 still

[candid summit]

yeah

[viscid quartz]

then what

[mint rivet]

yep u are

[remote steppe]

Try to reach the skull bonus

[mint rivet]

then u push

[candid summit]

what

[ancient arch]

so basically you afk everyone that isn't your main pusher in lab, but at w5 u will switch them to divinity anyway

[candid summit]

i just wanna know whats good against green guys in tower defense

[mint rivet]

nyan worth a ribbon, no?

[candid summit]

what

[mint rivet]

voidinator

[candid summit]

im in the tower defense right now

[mint rivet]

HUGE gains

[mint rivet]

delete some towers that do not affect anything and place more towers for dmg

[candid summit]

theyre stuck (the lightning guy spam was my latest attempt since idk what to do)

[mint rivet]

that means u gotta wait

[ancient arch]

classic wave 50

[candid summit]

i already told you theyre at a standstill

[mint rivet]

if their hp is lowering by the second, you will win if it takes less than 2hrs 40min

[candid summit]

its been cycling bruh

[ancient arch]

they're green, so they're outhealing below 50%

it will never win unless they use void to get rid of green

[candid summit]

i thought i explained everything what have we been talking about the last several minutes

[mint rivet]

basically, ur cooked, give up, stop neglecting

[candid summit]

are rock guys better than lightning guys

[mint rivet]

can't compare em

[ancient arch]

rock guys are one of the best until you have a decent poison guy setup

[mint rivet]

they serve different purposes

[ancient arch]

lightning is actually closer to support

[candid summit]

ill try spamming rocks now

[honest cradle]

ok compared to the owl one this fishing one is feeling awful

[ancient arch]

fishing sucks, owl is enjoyable

[mint rivet]

new weekly boss!

[ancient arch]

good thing the fishing has much better bonuses

[candid summit]

this is much worse

[honest cradle]

y make a click that I cant even click for income, triggered by bad design

[candid summit]

poison guys dont work either :(

[mint rivet]

gained 47 trophies from it, today

[mint rivet]

poisons are better than boulders at lvl 10+

[ancient arch]

you literally cannot win unless you add a void guy or restart. we didn't mean rock is better now for your situation, you're stuck

it's mathematically impossible

[candid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/persona4the-animation-persona-p4-yu-narukami-crying-gif-20604940

[ancient arch]

if it makes you feel better that happened to me too

and motivated me to focus towers in build more

whats ur cons board look like?

[candid summit]

heres the question: if im already here, does that count for the equinox cloud thing

i cant beat round 50 but ive reached it

[ancient arch]

it doesn't sadly

[candid summit]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-ground-nero-rage-gif-18336810

[ancient arch]

worship is weird about checkpoints for waves beaten it feels like

[mint rivet]

Finally!!

reached 70% dr

[candid summit]

"use the equinox upgrades to make tower defense possible" but i need to be good at tower defense to get those??

[mint rivet]

u need to not neglect

[candid summit]

idk what that means

[mint rivet]

rn ur TD is very bad, like construction

[candid summit]

im always constructing

[mint rivet]

does not mean its not bad

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246596618321526837/1351650335789154365/attachment.gif

[candid summit]

i mean i guess i prioritize getting new stuff and useful perks idk

rn im

[exotic swallow]

just play however u want

[ancient arch]

post cog board

[mint rivet]

if he is here, he wants most optimal way

[candid summit]

yeah i am getting a bit frustrated being told im bad

oh thats a good point too

[mint rivet]

if he wants to play how he wants, he may not take advice

[exotic swallow]

hell eventually learn everything you know

[mint rivet]

maybe

[candid summit]

ill look into what the other cloud that gets me new equinox things says i forgor

[exotic swallow]

he'll do things when he feels like he should do them

[mint rivet]

equinox and rift are very important, especially now

[candid summit]

[white lintel]

Think about 200

[mint rivet]

how high did u reach in owl, with gambit bonus?

[exotic swallow]

I can almost get fractal 18

[mint rivet]

damn, so fractal 20 is possible this year

[ancient arch]

dw, i was literally in your spot a few weeks ago, once you start getting a few very soon you'll have 20 easy

few weeks is generous. maybe like 10 days even

[candid summit]

oh wait i did work really hard on one tower in construction, but it was the default one
i liked its style, helped a lot in the goblins or somethin iirc? also cheap and fast to upgrade

[mint rivet]

that won't get u very far in TD

[candid summit]

ive finished building the void one, i just need to unlock the gray salt

[mint rivet]

are you following optimal setups for ur stage? they are wayy better than what u thought of so far

[ancient arch]

even at lvl 1 the void one can make a difference, also you can start constructing more poison and stop prgoressing boulder now

[mint rivet]

if u have gilded slot, keep poisonic in gilded slot

[exotic swallow]

💦

[mint rivet]

what

is this a multi?

[deft talon]

Is there a way to how much accuracy I need to 100% hit a crystal mob WITHOUT having to wait for one to spawn and check the AFK men?

[mint rivet]

a way to how much?

[indigo stratus]

Wiki

[ancient arch]

damn, i just got acorn pet finally, and a big one too. that mf is nuts

[deft talon]

to know lol

[mint rivet]

wiki

[ancient arch]

it's 2.5x the regular right

you can see the regular in card menu

[deft talon]

I am confused though, I have 244k accuracy and still misses...

[ancient arch]

which map

[deft talon]

w6

[ancient arch]

no, which map

[deft talon]

might have askedi n the wrong channel...

[ancient arch]

sprouts, ricecakes, etc

[deft talon]

yep, its 1:33am. I should get to bed xD

[indigo stratus]

Guaranteed w6 isn't that low of acc

[deft talon]

ohhh yeah sorry.. the bamboo holding little fellas

[median olive]

For me it's 6:34 I gotta go to school soon

[ancient arch]

so crystal will be 112.5*2.5 = 281.25

[deft talon]

OHHHH TAHT IS WHAT THE CRYSTAL STATS MEAN?!

[ancient arch]

it changes based on who spawns it, meaning each successive crystal mob gets stronger too

even though they look the same per world

[deft talon]

Wow

w6 and I just learned that xD

[mint rivet]

I wonder when this reached 1.3x, prob not anytime soon

[carmine lake]

This be a w6 bubble

[mint rivet]

it approaches 1.2999999x

but never 1.3x as far as I can see

[carmine lake]

Anybody know where can i find the pet strats like are they in wiki

[iron knot]

anyone know how to fix my vman quest being bugged at 38/40?

[mint rivet]

oh new bubble upgradeable

[mint rivet]

I got a sheet

[carmine lake]

Sheet me up...

[tidal ibex]

I bought the 3d printer and anvil, should I buy the extra card slots next?

[mint rivet]

try to cloud save

[mint rivet]

yes

[mint rivet]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[deft talon]

Quick question about my constellations; is it better having the +3% str, giving 218k accuray and with max dmg of 1484.5m(crowned) or the +10% accuracy, making my accuracy at 245k but with 1480.2m(crowned) max dmg?

[carmine lake]

It looks way cleaner now they updated it

[mint rivet]

i don't think it was updated

[mint rivet]

do u need accuracy?

[carmine lake]

Last time i checked it was just z google doc full of words anyways thanks for the sheet

[deft talon]

atm, not really

[ancient arch]

just try both and see which afk menu shows more kills/xp

or do you mean considering crystal spawns

[mint rivet]

np

[deft talon]

Bruh I am stupid... why did I ask if I don't need accuracy?!

[mint rivet]

go for the one that gives more dmg

oops wrong reply

[deft talon]

aight, thank you and sorry for wasting y'all time 🤡

[ancient arch]

u good dw

[iron knot]

Now suddenly my rams and bloodbones aren't at a million anymore

[mint rivet]

check deathnote

[iron knot]

Logically me already having one vman proves I've gotten both of them to million already

[mint rivet]

damn double vman build??

[iron knot]

actually...

[mint rivet]

well u can neverprogress rift

[iron knot]

Meh I have another account with actual classes if I wanted to

[mint rivet]

idk how to help you with these mmen

[indigo stratus]

10 vman is new meta

[iron knot]

Take all of these mmen on at the same time

[mint rivet]

only 2 left in late w6..finally

[hardy forge]

i kinda wonder how the shrine works

should i plug every single shrine in each map each character?

[mint rivet]

place it down, level it, get buff

u should put all shrines in 1 place, are you w3 or w4?

[hardy forge]

i'm theoretically w4 now, early w4

[mint rivet]

put them in town of w4, where you should have all except 1 char

[hardy forge]

so if i plug a shrine in one map, the copy in other maps would disappear right

[mint rivet]

and with a lab node, you can level them, and get their effect, in the whole world, as long as they are in town

[mint rivet]

the level saves, the progress to next lvl does no save, until u get a w6 upgrade

and yes

one shrine of each type at a time

[hardy forge]

well i think it's too early for me to lock all other players since my w3 construction is quite pathetic

[hardy forge]

okay thankx

[mint rivet]

as soon as u arrive at w4 its the best option

[mint rivet]

np

[hardy forge]

the problem is i just dont have accuracy so i cant push maps anymore

and also def is a huge problem

[indigo stratus]

Do owl and roo, will get you there

[hardy forge]

i just smashed w2 and w3 with the last week(actually nearly 3days) so nearly nothing inside these worlds have been done

[mint rivet]

also keep upgrading vault, u got 15 dementia for entering w4, and will get a ton more for selecting first elite class

[sour sail]

Should i pus w4 rn?

[mint rivet]

yeah

[hardy forge]

i have owl +3 feather now and roo is kinda slow

[sour sail]

Ok

[mint rivet]

u are at mega feather 3?

or fractal feather

[hardy forge]

yeah i think, the last one at lv3

[mint rivet]

damn u neglected ur owl

and roo-be careful, if u don't do it optimally, u will always be at a disadvantage and not reach as high as those who do optimally

the fisheroo resets don't reset with greatest catch reset

so whole ideea is to maximize points gained every reset

[cursive galleon]

is it just me or sometimes the afk timers on your characters bug out and give u more afk time?

[indigo stratus]

Not just you

[cursive galleon]

like i closed the game for half an hour and came back to 9+ hours of afk time

[mint rivet]

that is crazy desync

only happened slightly for me

[indigo stratus]

Never had hours, but definitely minutes

[cursive galleon]

this is happening once every couple days now

[hardy forge]

wait am i supposed to have tons of this?

[mint rivet]

until MF25 its recomended, then after that its ur choice

[hardy forge]

okay then ill try to hit

[mint rivet]

since going from MF26-27 will take me more time than going from MF25- MF26

it gets longer and longer, to the point where u have to wait weeks

that only happens after MF25

[mint rivet]

do not connect to that barn

make a straight line to connect to refinery, NBLB and lab node, for now

after that u will also be aiming for 2x kills and shrine node

[woeful karma]

im so close i can taste it

only a day or two and then i have lv 80 alch

[woeful karma]

but e i e i o

[mint rivet]

amazing for someone that did not unlock w4

[woeful karma]

ive found a new strat to run W1 colo better with a shaman

[mint rivet]

u got 200 tent? zuiq

[woeful karma]

lmfao i wish

[hardy forge]

why do you have this much exp

[mint rivet]

I am grinding w3 rn too

[woeful karma]

what my talents are atm

[mint rivet]

u got slug, right?

[woeful karma]

so i can upgrade GSB vial

[woeful karma]

yep

[mint rivet]

what is that?

[cursive galleon]

what should i upgrade for my second ES?

chopping?

[woeful karma]

GSB Vial

[mint rivet]

godshard in w3 is insane

[woeful karma]

i need merc

[woeful karma]

wrong
unfortunately

[cursive galleon]

?? w3 and godshard makes no sense right?

[woeful karma]

you think i
the insane zuiq
would get godshard mined in W3?

[mint rivet]

ngl I totally ignored mine

Lava did not want to make it a multi..and it takes trillions of ore to max it, so I will pass on that

[sleek bane]

yes

[woeful karma]

nah
nah

[sleek bane]

that seems extremely in character for you actually

[mint rivet]

start saving up for godshard armor

[woeful karma]

i can get almost 30k GS ore/h from base prints on my barb

[sleek bane]

he's in w3

[woeful karma]

it never hurtst to start savingearly

[sleek bane]

bro not getting anvil 6 for like 2 years

at the rate hes playing

[mint rivet]

zuiq in w6 will become stronger than endgamers

[woeful karma]

yeah
i assume W5

[indigo stratus]

Not trillions, billions.

[sleek bane]

he's just the goat it is what it is

[mint rivet]

it is trilllions

[hardy forge]

meanwhile my warrior cant even pick platinum

[woeful karma]

ill instantly become an endgamer the moment i step foot into W6 at this point

[cursive galleon]

i am like shocked

[mint rivet]

15k ore per bar

[indigo stratus]

Oh, ore, not bars

[woeful karma]

i remeber back when i could only mine void in W1

[mint rivet]

I need 1.15b bars

[woeful karma]

good times

[mint rivet]

accounting for multi bar chance it might be like a tril only

[cursive galleon]

u do want to get to w6 pretty fast tho, w6 skills are actually time capped

[sleek bane]

do you have all bubbles zui?

[woeful karma]

yeah
30k is enough for 2 bars without bar multis or slime sludge

[mint rivet]

he is ZUIQ

[cursive galleon]

he is zuiq indeed

[sleek bane]

dont talk shit to my goat

[woeful karma]

not yet
was working on it
but now working on getting bvetter liquids

[sleek bane]

ah ic

[cursive galleon]

im innocent i swear

[mint rivet]

got chizoar on everyone yet? with bestweapons? and tools?

[sleek bane]

oh so you're close

[mint rivet]

also got emperor opals?

[sleek bane]

surely he does my goat would not neglect party dungeons like me

[hardy forge]

how many decades did you spent in this freaking w2

[woeful karma]

need class helms
next green rankup will give me that

[woeful karma]

roughly a year or under

[sleek bane]

he's w3 actually

[woeful karma]

as for W3
under 3 months

[mint rivet]

I did too..only difference is I was offline for a year

[woeful karma]

i was online a decent bit

but when it came to farming the sand giuants for coins to max P2W it started to just be checking in daily for them to claim and do daily stuff and nothing else

[sleek bane]

gs bar vial in w2 is so funny to me

[woeful karma]

rn im more active as im still within the 3 month massive growth period

[mint rivet]

Even with discounts its too much for my carry cap

[woeful karma]

ikr

[indigo stratus]

Dungeons? What are those? Only got 1000 tickets at r50+

[woeful karma]

me when 14B ample samplle thing

[woeful karma]

working on this next

[mint rivet]

14B what?

[woeful karma]

got it on my main/first player

[mint rivet]

same I neglected dungeons

[sleek bane]

time for nslb

[woeful karma]

i sorta did but didnt

i neglected it hard core in W1

in W2 i maxed out non dungon stats and got emp rings for my main

[mint rivet]

i only got 4 opal rings and 19k flurbos atm

[hardy forge]

this is so randomly hilarious

[woeful karma]

in W3 i want emp rings for everyone and maxing out in dungon stats

[mint rivet]

i only do a 40x weekly

[woeful karma]

oh?

[woeful karma]

wait 40x?

oh right prayer

[mint rivet]

that 40x gives me about 2 opal rings

[woeful karma]

honestly kinda tempted to use that

i lose the xp and other things but i get mega flurbos and credits

[hardy forge]

cuz meanwhile every single level on my account is so low for w4 so i need to go back and fix everything

[mint rivet]

I personally use it, you should too since u got over 1k passes

[sleek bane]

doesnt exp get multied by passes as well

[woeful karma]

i dont think i have it yet

[woeful karma]

it doesnt say it does so i dont assume it does

[mint rivet]

maybe its from w4+ TD

[woeful karma]

based on this maybe
its the final 3 slots

wait no

idiot
thats not slots
that is prayer slots not unlco slots

its W3

51 FF

man

[sleek bane]

zuiq how is your refinery

[mint rivet]

get poisonic up

[woeful karma]

out of all the prayuers i want
i reallyt fucking want beafy for real and baolenc of pain

[woeful karma]

posionic W4

void and atom W5

[mint rivet]

what? why

[sleek bane]

cant build

no mats

[mint rivet]

oh did not know

[mint rivet]

then get boulders up

[woeful karma]

one sec

[mint rivet]

and all others u use

[sleek bane]

kinda funny that you can get prim shrine

[mint rivet]

keep boulder in gilded slot

[woeful karma]

let me jsut open chrome for

i dont have guilded either

[woeful karma]

IT

[mint rivet]

damn no atom business?

[indigo stratus]

Boulder really only useful for dmg gains

[sleek bane]

he cant you need shattered skull

from w5 to build atom

[mint rivet]

oh

[sleek bane]

and hes not in w4 so cant get it from jewel

[woeful karma]

i ficuk in wish

[sleek bane]

bros prints are probably goated

[woeful karma]

not too shabby

[mint rivet]

IT had an item planner?

[woeful karma]

will be reprinting soonish once i get all or most to +300% multi

[woeful karma]

yes it does
its nice
untill your browser clears your data and you forgotr to export it

[sleek bane]

you can see how many materials it takes to make a billion gs tools

[mint rivet]

I got all the magma stuff....but damn 4.7m bars

[woeful karma]

as for tools
i need to get the needed level on my mages and archers for the pick
upgrade the fishing rod
upgrade the trap and skull
and hten their set

[sleek bane]

isnt it nice tho

[woeful karma]

as for weps.....

[sleek bane]

very clean ui

[woeful karma]

i love it its great

[sleek bane]

i am an enjoyer as well

[woeful karma]

EYYYY

[mint rivet]

2.5m salts aswell...

[woeful karma]

THE UPDATE IS LIVE

[sleek bane]

wut

[mint rivet]

the armor is

[sleek bane]

oh i meant the item planner lol

[woeful karma]

its no longer counting my nonexistent DKs

[sleek bane]

oh it update?

[woeful karma]

im close to a 7m cycle

[mint rivet]

though I still need to get to minichiefs for mats and recipe

[sleek bane]

ngl thought u were at sams alr

[woeful karma]

yeah this was an issue for a while and i dont think anyone knew about it becasue who in their right mind would be working on refinery as much as i am in W3 and not have DKs

[hardy forge]

wut is this

[mint rivet]

I recently started pushing, 2 days ago

[sleek bane]

icic

[mint rivet]

so far only went from leeks/ceramics to eggs

[sleek bane]

my dk at eggs rn

[mint rivet]

and am halfway to minis

[sleek bane]

stinky ass map

[hardy forge]

how can i get this? it looks clean

[woeful karma]

im so close on this too

[woeful karma]

!it

[sleek bane]

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[woeful karma]

tools > item planner

[hardy forge]

ok thanks

[woeful karma]

3 hours :(

[mint rivet]

so in conclusion, I NEED to get to work

[mint rivet]

that is little

a month....

[woeful karma]

i cant stay up that long
i have work tmro

its unideal

[mint rivet]

can u buy refinery cycles from killroy?

[mint rivet]

I do usually have omni on, not while pusing though

[hardy forge]

i cant login this website somehow lol

[woeful karma]

omni?

[woeful karma]

?

[mint rivet]

omniphau, gives me chance to progress in refinery for the amount of time I was afk

[woeful karma]

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[mint rivet]

w5 god

[woeful karma]

no time candies i assume?

[mint rivet]

omni makes refinery at least 3x faster overall

[hardy forge]

it tells me to login with google, and i enter the code and google tells me it's done, but when i came back to this page nothing happened

[woeful karma]

natrual only?

[woeful karma]

maybe reload

or try to do it quickly
sometiems its annoying

[mint rivet]

75% done, last stretch

[woeful karma]

wait its

huh

are
are onyx
that much easier then i thought theyd be?

am i triping or do i already have onyx technicly unlocked in a sense as soon as i get to W4

its only 20000?

[mint rivet]

yes onyx

its 20k

[woeful karma]

(also i keep using twosoul cauldron saw and trap ones bc hteir W3 and lower leved then the others)

[mint rivet]

w3 statues are particullary hard since u need ES< should not be done with DK

[woeful karma]

oh shit
need to reguild dragon

[mint rivet]

takes me 1hr per 1.5k or so twosoul statues

[indigo stratus]

Candy is the answer

[woeful karma]

why so cheap?

[sleek bane]

i just need to onyx w6 statues then im done with all besides dragon

[woeful karma]

how does active shaman bring in better exp then passive shamen evne with a 200% afk gain rate?
its rapidly overleveling my other players except my barb/main/first player

are crystals and active exp that good?

[hardy forge]

wait what is this thing

[cursive galleon]

ignore sigils for some time, not worth unlocking right now

[woeful karma]

these things
sidgles

[hardy forge]

then whats islands

i have so much stuff skipped lmao

[woeful karma]

they seem to give pretty small boosts and require players to acive on em

[cursive galleon]

w2 last island, on the left

[cursive galleon]

u can unlock islands over there

[mint rivet]

its an above small boost

[woeful karma]

i mean for the time its worth
at their probably current state id assume it might not be worth it

[mint rivet]

crystal-much candy, trash-new things, stamp, bribes, etc, seasalt-insane xp, shimmer-free stats, skill eff%, and fractal-amazing bonuses

[mint rivet]

its worth doing SOME fractal

[woeful karma]

i mean i assume i might start to work on sidgles

[mint rivet]

especially until the 25% more nuggets from shoevl

[woeful karma]

they asked about sigles

[mint rivet]

u need w4 for that

also, they are a trap

do them after u get all w6 bubbles

[woeful karma]

oh i forgot to mention when i am in W4 and have nother better to do after bubbles and liquid

[woeful karma]

hence this

[indigo stratus]

The w7 fractal gonna be huge, just wait

[woeful karma]

after this

[woeful karma]

?

ohh right right

im still a wyas off from the htird

[woeful karma]

good news is
i can make void rods and meaty traps at the same time
bad news is
i dont want to continue to work on green for now
i wanna work on other construction stuff so the skulls are gonna be left on the backburner for now

OH SHIT
OH SHIT

IVE DONE IT
IVE DONE IT ACTUALLY

I HIT LV 300!

damn
welp
i dont think i can do this until W4 bubo

1,000,000(m) seconds
and i have 14,000(k)

[mint rivet]

ggs

[mint rivet]

1m is only visually possible using a feature (controversial)

its 100k

[woeful karma]

if anything i at leat got more damage now

[woeful karma]

oh?

its not 1m
its 100k not 1000k?

oh wait no im an idiot
i read the progress not the dream

either way
either ima need to get every three hourly CC priunts or something or some other wacky way to make me get more seconds per kill

[cyan sequoia]

where should I farm power statues? Need the 20k for onyx statues

and bubo, es or dk for it?

[indigo stratus]

Dk, bored beans

[woeful karma]

oh damn its getting late
need to sleep for work tmro
night all
best of luck with the grind 🦾

[indigo stratus]

If u have choco chip, otherwise... it drops 3rd April

[white lintel]

DK at beans, have choco chip, 8-10DR and sub 100 crystal chance

[indigo stratus]

Don't technically need choco, but it makes every crystal count for about 4... which is huge at lower spawn rate.

[white lintel]

I think it’d end up being more than 4

Without choco it would go from like a week or so to like a month or two

[sleek stone]

Ive come a long way

[sour sail]

I just got in w4

Whad do i do

[vestal moon]

pray

[sour sail]

🤨

[sleek stone]

Talk to ginseng in top

[white lintel]

The tutorial quest

[sour sail]

How do i generate spices with squirrel?

[cyan sequoia]

yeah I dont have choco chip, where do I see crystal chance?

[sleek stone]

With breeding

[vestal moon]

chco chip will be available in 6 days

[white lintel]

IT or tome

[sour sail]

I have a squirrel but idk what to do to make spices

[cyan sequoia]

its 73, should ld I push this off until I get choco chip?

[white lintel]

Yes

Work on getting more DR and crystal chance while you wait

[cyan sequoia]

my DR is 14.66

[white lintel]

It couldn’t hurt to get more

[indigo stratus]

Math seems to check out. Bc each crystal has 1/4 chance to spawn none

[mint rivet]

umm

@fossil kayak steam wants you for some reason

[sour sail]

How do i get spices?

[mint rivet]

how good are buildrate obols?

[white lintel]

Yes

[mint rivet]

is it a multi to buildspeed?

[white lintel]

Probably

They’re worth

[mint rivet]

I will go with 8 chars dr build, 2 BR build

and swap obols when I need dr on DK

I never thought I would have this issue

damn

and I got no jungle log sample

@white lintel what? no tree?

[thin wind]

How high should I get my fractel feather? Or should I just focus on bonuses of orion now instead of getting fractels?

[mint rivet]

15 mandatory, after that its a choice

[mint rivet]

get fractals and bonuses as u go, don't focus one at a time

[thin wind]

ok sounds good, time to look at an owl all night

[round flower]

Peak life I'm living

[surreal spear]

Only two more gods and lab grind can begin again

[indigo stratus]

Those feet pics paid off...

[round flower]

No need to tell em what I did💔

[indigo stratus]

I tell until my companions reflect yours

[round flower]

LMAO

💔

Just missing rift slug and doot

[indigo stratus]

Ok, legacy we the same... but still far away

[round flower]

Beg for it

This is also necessary

[indigo stratus]

Noooo

[compact pagoda]

still doing 😂

i thought u finished yesterday

[mint rivet]

yay 5 star

now just that one stupid mob left

[brave cove]

#bug-reports-🐛 message bean did you just so happen to watch that pirate software clip

[mint rivet]

what is that?

[brave cove]

nvm then

[mint rivet]

pls tell me

and what relation to the bug report

[brave cove]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/uVDWdt0A46s

perhaps just an incredible coincidence

the first time i've seen someone give such an intricate bug report

[mint rivet]

just a coincidence

[twilit viper]

Anyone have the salt image? Is it still like a proper way to play and have a tempo of red salt being a certain level etc?

[candid summit]

is this just a funny visual thing or is it actually frozen

nvm its not frozen lol

clicked again and its at 9.03M

[tranquil wind]

The only frozen scenario could be switching vman preset

[mint rivet]

pins

[mint rivet]

for him maybe not

[twilit viper]

Thank you and sorry to bother.

[mint rivet]

np

[sly nova]

Wasgud I'm alive

[compact pagoda]

lies

[sly nova]

Hello earthling

[mint rivet]

still on the justice grind I see

[sly nova]

Justice4life

[mint rivet]

quarter of the way there!

[compact pagoda]

oh so ur bravery finished

[mint rivet]

hehe I finished it

[sly nova]

[sly nova]

Damn 😔

[mint rivet]

its better to move to justice after u did a bit in bravery

[mint rivet]

and I still got a 16x or so multi unused

[compact pagoda]

i need to unlock it first 😭

[sly nova]

Now I'm at wisdom afk 1 character for years 😹😹

[mint rivet]

bouta getthat juicy 300 lvls per chest run

[sly nova]

[oak lynx]

How do you people get that high exp% in construction 😭

[compact pagoda]

tell him chat

[sly nova]

Better cogs?

[oak lynx]

That's it??

[sly nova]

You need nice cogs

[mint rivet]

this is the setup

ALL directional cogs give player construct xp%

its a must

[oak lynx]

Wtf

[mint rivet]

I got no buildrate focusing cog

[sly nova]

Pure dk carry

[mint rivet]

u get BR from lvls through this

[compact pagoda]

i should probably unlock more slots

then focus all xp

[mint rivet]

just 1 more daily reset and I will be able to atom this bubble

get it to 99% potency

[mint rivet]

u focus all xp rn

[sly nova]

[compact pagoda]

other than a few flages

[oak lynx]

So I just need to reach a high lvl then start getting good cogs?

[mint rivet]

all cogs must give xp%

[compact pagoda]

other are xp i believe

[mint rivet]

no, you need to get good cogs for ur level in order to gain more xp% to get higher level to get better cogs

[oak lynx]

That's not worth upgrading rn

[compact pagoda]

wait xp and xp % are different 🤯

[mint rivet]

with full xp% setup I went from lvl 600 to 1034 in 3 weeks I believe

[mint rivet]

without atoms, yeah I can't even afford it

I need it at LEAST 95% potency

99% potency is lvl 5k or so

[torn burrow]

I introduced him to the game

[oak lynx]

So atom is a must rn??

[mint rivet]

yeah, I ain't getting 100m salts 💀

[sly nova]

If you can afford

[oak lynx]

Daym I need to get my br up (it's 15k rn ;-;)

[remote steppe]

Oh damn lmao

It was such a shock to see other sb people i know here

[mint rivet]

I belive this build speed is a multi

ima test it a bit later

[quick canopy]

Someone explain plz

[compact pagoda]

10m of a item in storage

[sly nova]

10m your resources

[compact pagoda]

or this ^

[sly nova]

[quick canopy]

A single item,10m

[compact pagoda]

well

for me resources are considered single

so

[quick canopy]

Cant you write all at once

[compact pagoda]

no im lasy

[sly nova]

Yep

[compact pagoda]

just get 10 million of a resource type at once in storage

[compact pagoda]

go explain him

i don't wanna type long paragraphs

[sly nova]

A go b

[quick canopy]

K,the fastest one will be spore cap i guess

[compact pagoda]

yea

[sly nova]

You got 3D print right?

[quick canopy]

Yes

[sly nova]

Print copper, iron, logs, gold

[tranquil wind]

Greensack - 10m of one item in storage, you need 20 items of 10m for this

[sly nova]

Easiest

[compact pagoda]

and that 10m spore counts as 1 greenstack

[quick canopy]

Damn

[young jetty]

Ho-hum. I guess I'll just wait then

[compact pagoda]

ayyy boulder fighting

[sly nova]

Bro got poison but didn't replace it

[compact pagoda]

must be a low level

[young jetty]

my poison towers are quite low level yes

[tranquil wind]

Yeah 6 lvl poison is much better than lvl 30 boulder xD

[sly nova]

True

[young jetty]

placed a voidinator first time, it's level 1. Wanted to see what it does

[sly nova]

Remove the color of the enemy

[young jetty]

Yes, but that is meaningless to me. Oh. Removes regen?

Oh hell yes, if that's so, it's amazing

[compact pagoda]

removes enemy traits

just think of it as a debuffer

[tranquil wind]

Healing, stun, tp - all of that gets removed with him

[sly nova]

Amp

[young jetty]

risky but let's see if we can speed this up a bit.

[mint rivet]

its time to test1!

before stats

equipped just 1 obol

and it did not move the slightest

still same BR

is the obol that bad or its an issue from my side?

[tranquil wind]

Mb need cloudsave for effect to come in place?

[mint rivet]

cloudsaved multiple times

nah the obols are not a multi

Well now Br started to change

so they give small buff, I will test with whole set

[young jetty]

Looks too small to really bother TBH

I mean testing is good, but that's quite dissapointing

[mint rivet]

that is just on one char, a few obols

i would accept a 20% increase per char, so a 40% total increase

Ima get full set

and see its effect

[torn burrow]

There's a lot of us here actually

[mint rivet]

will prob take a while

[remote steppe]

Really? Who else?

[mint rivet]

150

hopefully will reach 200 by the end of next week

[cyan sequoia]

how do you get that much build rate? I got around 40-50k

[mint rivet]

you'd be surprised If I told you

[dense pine]

xp cogs

also you get a lot in w6 actually

[cyan sequoia]

so its just high construction lvls?

[mint rivet]

I personally am barely in the quad digit level

and levels=BR, bcs of alchemy

[karmic crow]

What's the best way to beat arena 50

[sly nova]

Should i run viduct of the god rn?

[sly nova]

Rattler, defender, refiller, monolith and burger

[karmic crow]

You only have 4 slots as you unlock the 5th at 50

[sly nova]

Rattler, looter, monolith and buger

Or change burger to defender

Gotta know how to arrange them

[sour sail]

HELLO

Im tryna make a jman, but i dont see the picnic guy

[karmic crow]

Thanks

[zenith hare]

the quest is on the carrot map

near the logs

[sour sail]

K

[zenith hare]

must be a beginner ofc

[sour sail]

Ik

[thorny zinc]

Hi everyone

[mint rivet]

hello

[quick canopy]

How to do rifts,its saying to do 500 kills in 5 min but i canonly kill nearly 250 in that time.

[torn burrow]

I mean casual players and stuff, just lots of sb players

[thorny zinc]

Is damage the problem?

Like you one shot them or not?

[wide tiger]

what level should i get all my characters at in lab? im around base 50s atm

[quick canopy]

I do

[south scroll]

75

[thorny zinc]

75

[south scroll]

Use a respawn character like dk

[thorny zinc]

Yeah dk or es

I personally used es for that one

[quick canopy]

Is there any way to increase mob respawn rate? I can use a archer for speed

[south scroll]

Ngl just finished last rift after neglecting until sneaking lmao

[thorny zinc]

Nah es portal should be enough

[quick canopy]

Whats es portal

[south scroll]

It’s easier to use another class for that rift so rather than archer use your ES wormhole

[thorny zinc]

The talent that spawna enemies

Spawns*

[quick canopy]

Damn whats es,plz tell openly

[thorny zinc]

Elemental sorcerer..

[sleek bane]

[thorny zinc]

Please tell me you have your elite classes...

[quick canopy]

I have only blood berserker on my main character

[thorny zinc]

💀

[south scroll]

Unlock your elites😭

[thorny zinc]

Go unlock all of them wtf

You should have done that first thing when u unlocked w4