midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[mint rivet]

and I did recently find another use for w6 stones

[median olive]

Storage chest?

[mossy anvil]

thats my opal distribution

[mint rivet]

its zero point stopwatch , requires 25 w6 stones

[median olive]

Oh ok

[mint rivet]

reset opals, put all on the most underleveled villager

[mint rivet]

wdym

[mossy anvil]

rly all?

[mint rivet]

I hope u got this maxed

[mossy anvil]

i do not

[mint rivet]

are you dooted?

[mossy anvil]

yes

i got all pets

[mint rivet]

btw 2nd blue schematic is a trap

put all ur opals on conjuror and max the firstblue asap

then u can do some hole majik aswell

[long python]

If I do sneak mastery and restart will I keep all my characters

[median olive]

Wait collection as in the w4 thing?

[mint rivet]

my personal distribution is this (for my pts amount)

[mint rivet]

you can also return to previous mastery level if u wish

[mint rivet]

what w4 thing?

[median olive]

Nvm

Wait is collection w4 or 5

[nimble atlas]

my squire just hit 15 construction, should I move them to the level 15 cogs tab or keep them on the main board?

[mint rivet]

what is that

[median olive]

I heard there's this like Pokédex of items I think

[mint rivet]

They ALWAYS STAY on board

only put non-squires on cogs

[mint rivet]

the slab, you only need the item once for it to count for slab

[mossy anvil]

will do as u did, but there is no point reseting conjuror coz of that one right

[mint rivet]

I personally would unless I got a very low wish amount

and u also need wishes for resetting opals

[white lintel]

Alright guys, guess the new highest dmg

[mint rivet]

GREAT news!

[mossy anvil]

i can reset opals in 6 days

[white lintel]

PS: go do the shimmer challenge

[nimble atlas]

to make things worse, from what I read, you used to have to "pick up" the item for it to count. That means if a quest reward went straight into your inventory, like a bag, and you immediately used it, you'd have to drop it and pick it up again to count.

thankfully no longer the case.

[white path]

10QQQQ

[mint rivet]

lava changed that recently

NEW battle!!

what is the setup?

[white lintel]

is that 1E25?

[subtle shale]

bruh , vman is just too cool

[white lintel]

wait you edited, so 10E25?

[white path]

1e26

[mossy anvil]

e27

[exotic swallow]

e28

[white lintel]

Almost spot on

[mint rivet]

anyone knows?

[exotic swallow]

whats there to know

[mint rivet]

the setup

[white lintel]

youre funny

[exotic swallow]

e39

[exotic swallow]

use the one u used for lullaby

[white lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/802977594860503042/1274769900401066095/caption.gif

[mint rivet]

I don't remember

[exotic swallow]

autoreview remembers

[mint rivet]

it was last year

[exotic swallow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/387277313550581763/1095474125952274543/attachment.gif

[mint rivet]

where

[mossy anvil]

when do u get break all button on jars, bolaia?>

[mint rivet]

the one there? first one??

[exotic swallow]

literally infront of you

[mint rivet]

I did not use that last time

[white lintel]

ts pmo icl cz tanw yblt cz

[exotic swallow]

dnc

[unborn sonnet]

what the heck is an autoreview

[white lintel]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[white path]

this is english?

[white lintel]

yes

[solar parcel]

do super chows compound like vman cooking talent or is it +.1x every super chow

[white path]

same as vman cooking talent

[white lintel]

john spotted

[mint rivet]

its compounding

I hope this works

[white lintel]

Trasher moment

[solar parcel]

epic

[exotic swallow]

it works

and it works even faster if u know how to use defender properly

[mint rivet]

omg its so fast

[mint rivet]

just turned on auto and it worked

[white lintel]

so like, when do I get a new nugget

[exotic swallow]

is that a lot

[white lintel]

feels like it

[exotic swallow]

no

wrong

[white lintel]

so its not a lot?

[exotic swallow]

its not a lot

[white lintel]

be careful with alchemic

[white lintel]

poor souls

[exotic swallow]

doesnt matter

[mint rivet]

I am, also eggshell really helping

[exotic swallow]

lil bro neglected owl

[white lintel]

it does bc defender shields can get cucked

[exotic swallow]

and

[white lintel]

???

what does owl have to do with gaming

[exotic swallow]

it has to do with the time numbers

[mint rivet]

ggs!!! new spice battle beaten

[white lintel]

huh?

[exotic swallow]

keep on rolling buddy

[white lintel]

owl??

[exotic swallow]

.

[white lintel]

yea, thats gaming

[exotic swallow]

owl takes way more time to reach megaresets than how much time it takes u to get a new nugget

[white lintel]

...ok

[mint rivet]

bruh

[mint rivet]

for owl u don't have to actively click like gaming

[white lintel]

nukes above

[exotic swallow]

thats nothing

[mint rivet]

i will put a nuke above then, and sacrifice the refiller there

[exotic swallow]

people here with 50k in one bubble

wonder how much clicking it took

[white lintel]

Incredible observation

[mint rivet]

5hrs...

[white lintel]

That’s easy

[mint rivet]

now u can hold down bubbles to upgrade

[limber sail]

WHAT IS THIS COOLDOWN I FINALLY GOT TELEKINESIS BUT WHY IS COOLDOWN SO LOOOOOONGGGG

[mint rivet]

easy but boring

[exotic swallow]

but u couldnt before

[white lintel]

Clicking the bubble was the easy part

[mint rivet]

its a sign bubo masterclass is coming

[mint rivet]

why are u using that

[exotic swallow]

clicking anything is easy part

[limber sail]

CAN I PLS KNOW HOW TO LOWER COOLDOWN

[odd obsidian]

he (probably) doesn't have Ram

[white lintel]

Mana PO Box

[limber sail]

To access my chest anywhere

[mint rivet]

that is what ram does, not the talent, read the negative part of the talent aswell

[odd obsidian]

man i haven't played idleon since forever

forever being like 2 hours ago

[mint rivet]

on bowman, 5th talent

[tiny jetty]

what do i buy next?

[limber sail]

But people told me to get this to acces my chest

[mint rivet]

those people are dumb

[white lintel]

Sea salt

[mint rivet]

read the talent description and u will see why

[mint rivet]

crystal

[limber sail]

Uhhh ok?

[tiny jetty]

but its for world 6...? i just reached 4

[mint rivet]

its for w2 and above

[hard thistle]

Crystal kinda nice early game tho

[mint rivet]

only problem he might be facing on crstal is not having enough dmg to kill em

[young jetty]

I might have an extra ram somewhere

[white lintel]

Cost scales up as you buy islands
Also you can get xp there bc of how fishing works and juice your lvls anyhow

And that’s the most expensive one iirc

[tiny jetty]

okay

[limber sail]

It only deposits items and destroys items on ground…

[tiny jetty]

fractal cost 85 seasalt 65

[limber sail]

ITS USELESS

[mint rivet]

what should my vman be doing? r1 everywhere possible

[white lintel]

Skilling or jail

[odd obsidian]

it was useful about 2 years ago

[limber sail]

Why?

[odd obsidian]

because they had no RAM.. they had no REMOTELY DEPOSITING TO STORAGE BUTTON..

[mint rivet]

i got bravery 10k..justice 24k...wis enough, so a lab jail?

[sour sail]

Hello

[mint rivet]

and would leveling him be a good ideea?

to 500 for equinox

idk how easy it would be at royal eggs

[white lintel]

That’s active not jail

You could literally stick him back in skilling and be fine

To raise the bar for the other toons to go up

[mint rivet]

other toons are not close

[young jetty]

Do want a ram?

[sour sail]

Im gonna grind orion again

[mint rivet]

seems quite slow..at this level

ig I can skill in the hole

[limber sail]

Wdym?

[white lintel]

What’s your lab lvl?

[mint rivet]

image shows

[young jetty]

It's a pet, it gives you access to your chests from anywhere

[white lintel]

Lab is fine

[limber sail]

I know

[sour sail]

Got like 5 or 6 mega feathers

[limber sail]

But wdym by giving a ram

[mint rivet]

I will go on 2100 lab grind after I finish w6

so no need to do that rn

[mint rivet]

trading exists in this game, and yes you want a ram

don't miss a free ram opportunity

[limber sail]

THERE IS TRADING?!

[exotic swallow]

thought u finished that

[white lintel]

It doesn’t hurt to start that guy early

[limber sail]

SINCE WHEN?!?!

[mint rivet]

u always think wrong

[sour sail]

😭🙏

[limber sail]

Yes pls I want a ram

[young jetty]

I have a tradeable ram. You come to the same server I am, (Carrot 10), world 1 town, double click the character with my name and click trade

[exotic swallow]

yea because u are always worse than what I think

🙏

[mint rivet]

does not hurt lab, maybe hurtsother stuff

[young jetty]

and I will accept the trade, and presto, you have a ram and access to your chest

[odd obsidian]

only works if he has a tradeable pet

[white lintel]

Like what

[mint rivet]

there will be a point where I will be above

[young jetty]

oh. Well, if I trade it works

[odd obsidian]

yes

[exotic swallow]

that will take some time

[limber sail]

I’m here my name is the op gamr

[mint rivet]

like skill lvls staying same, layers at skilling nodes in hole staying same

[white lintel]

I don’t even think explosive plays the game anymore I’ve never seen their progress in a long time

[mint rivet]

dw I am alr at same lvl/higher lvl in some things

[young jetty]

Just tell me the name of the character you're coming to carrot 10 with, @limber sail

the op gamr?

[white lintel]

You said earlier that your vman was far above the other toons lvls so it wouldn’t help much to push their lvls higher

[exotic swallow]

I wouldnt be getting my villager xp higher if I didnt play

[mint rivet]

was color of pings changed?

[white lintel]

Probably

[mint rivet]

yeah would not help much

just like lab aswell

[odd obsidian]

level up already..

[white lintel]

Then what are you on about locking your hole nodes

[limber sail]

im at world 2

[mint rivet]

wdym locking

[white lintel]

This

[mint rivet]

why are your opals split

[young jetty]

world 1, shop roof. what's the mane of your character

[white lintel]

Early hole probably

[limber sail]

its "the op gamr"

[mint rivet]

I don't understand what locking has to do with that

[odd obsidian]

early hole. i'm one day away from a wish, for an opal rescrambling

[young jetty]

ok, now click the dog

[odd obsidian]

god i'm tired

[mint rivet]

keep hard pushing that hole

[young jetty]

and accept the trade

[mint rivet]

everlog tree gives more than effervescent?

[white lintel]

I said put in lab, you said: but the hole layers will stay the same

[limber sail]

OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

[mint rivet]

I did not unlock the w6 log on vman yet

[limber sail]

TYSMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!

[young jetty]

🙂

[odd obsidian]

that's at least two Gs.

[mint rivet]

just searching for most efficient thing to do

I would prefer doing lab grind on all 10 toons at once

[white lintel]

Lemme find out rq

[mint rivet]

so if vman will start it early-means he will get out early, and I will reach same problem

[exotic swallow]

idk if thats is more efficient than me sitting on my db

[white lintel]

Exactly the same for me

[exotic swallow]

db takes a lot of time

🗣️

[white lintel]

Locking: stuck, unopen able, if layers are locked you can’t open new ones

[white lintel]

You’ll have more xp % by then which means you can get more skill lvls elsewhere

[mint rivet]

nah I am not affected by the daily 6 layers limit at this point

[mint rivet]

is it really that significant

just a bit more xp%

[white lintel]

But you said that if vman does lab then you won’t be able to do layers, I’m not talking about the hard stop at 6 layers per day I’m talking about what you said about your layer opening hinging on vman

[mint rivet]

wdym hinging on vman

[white lintel]

I’m killing you

[exotic swallow]

you are killing his brains

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-duck-cute-duck-duck-duck-duck-dancing-duck-duck-dance-gif-5339038368488079993

[white lintel]

here

[mint rivet]

diabolical rate, i need 80m to lvl up tree...

[mint rivet]

so what u are saying, put vman in lab?

[white lintel]

are you doing it with a vman?

WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED THE RATES ARE BAD

[exotic swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-gif-26162796

[mint rivet]

they should not be this bad even on vman

skill eff matters for lab, right? the multies give more xp?

[white lintel]

VMAN RATES ARE ALWAYS BAD

[mint rivet]

yeah they are bad, but i did not expect THIS bad

[white lintel]

yes, eff thresholds mean more xp

[mint rivet]

anyways is 160k xp/hr good enough for lvl 210 grind?

idk how the scaling is on the levels

[white lintel]

do you want how much xp it takes to get to 210 from 122?

1 sec

[mint rivet]

arctis cooking something up

[white lintel]

Im using the wiki and a calculator

[nimble atlas]

i'm nearing the level to make my 7th character. Should I make it the secret class or save the secret class for my 10th?

[limber sail]

btw how many cards do i have to collect to make it 1 star 2 3 4 and 5 stars?

[mint rivet]

theincrease from 4 to 5 star is particullary high compared to others, and card amount depends on each card

[white path]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cards

[white lintel]

secret class 8th, second DK 7th

[limber sail]

thanks

[mint rivet]

here a w6 card

vs a w3 card

[young jetty]

trying to upgrade all my dna guns and I accidentally made a manual greenstack of mammoth bones. I'm a monster.

[white lintel]

@mint rivet

formula is on the wiki if you want to check my work

[limber sail]

WHY DOES IT TAKE 918?!

[hard thistle]

Is that total exp?

[white lintel]

thats xp from 122 to 210 and then I took off the xp he already had which is the 34688

[mint rivet]

27MILLION EXP?

[white lintel]

correct

[limber sail]

what is this for?

[exotic swallow]

lab

[white lintel]

getting 2100 lab

[limber sail]

lab?

[white lintel]

w4

[mint rivet]

ty for the help

[white lintel]

np

[limber sail]

oh ok

[mint rivet]

but that would be 168 HOURS!!!

a WHOLE WEEK for lvl 210 lab

[white lintel]

thats free dude

[exotic swallow]

and

[white lintel]

thats not bad at all

[exotic swallow]

bro thought hes gonna get it in 1 day

[mint rivet]

I assume it takes other chars a lot longer?

[mint rivet]

I wouldprefer that

[limber sail]

a week isnt much tbh

[white lintel]

I doubt it

[mint rivet]

still a whole week gone insane

[white lintel]

Lab xp is calculated differently so vman does not have an advantage

[exotic swallow]

well u are gonna sufferi n the long grinds that we all experience

[mint rivet]

I can just leave the game for a week and forget about it , during lab grind

but still have to do dailies and killroy

[exotic swallow]

grinds that u cannot speed up (db, even with gambit bones its slow)

[mint rivet]

i won't do DB grind again until 2x bones from gambit

those maxed lvl 90 meals can eat sand

[exotic swallow]

"Thought you were better" all that

[limber sail]

how can i get gems easily?

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1251533643986501715/1312514207761043636/attachment.gif

[mint rivet]

mainly 100 bosses/day, minibosses eveyr week, w1 colosseum

[limber sail]

kk thx

[mint rivet]

np

[limber sail]

where do i find mini bosses

[mint rivet]

also don't forget about alchemy, that gives TONS of gems

through bubble and shop

[limber sail]

alchemy???? fr???

[mint rivet]

level up gift

I personally get 12 daily gems from shop, for u its prob lower

[mint rivet]

depends which one, what world are you in?

I gtg, cya everyone

👋🏿

[limber sail]

cya

[limber sail]

btw im in early w4 (still didnt finish the sleepy guy quests😭)

[thorny zinc]

How

What do you need to do

[broken moat]

Found a big one

[thorny zinc]

More candies for you

[limber sail]

woah hes massive

btw was it a good idea to use about 150 hours worth of time candies to grind crabey cakes?

[white lintel]

definately not

[limber sail]

oh

what if i say its for the thing in alchemy where u can get gems

[indigo stratus]

No

[limber sail]

oh

[thorny zinc]

[white lintel]

just have someone farm it afk or active afk instead of wasting candy on it

[indigo stratus]

Crab Cakes aren't that hard to farm

[thorny zinc]

They are easy to get with es for example

[limber sail]

at least my bubble is now at 55% chance

es?

[white path]

elemental sorcerer

[thorny zinc]

Elemental sorcerer but you dont have it yet

[limber sail]

huh?

w5?

[white path]

wizard elite class

[thorny zinc]

Elite class for wizard

[indigo stratus]

Theo doesn't have ES, but Mana Is Life is a Wizard talent, so the better base drop farming is still there

[candid summit]

probably a dumb question, but when something says it affects boost foods, does it also affect golden foods? they seem to almost always just give potions as examples so i wanna be certain

[thorny zinc]

Yeah true

Its normal food

[candid summit]

ah damn, doesnt affect golden food then huh

[indigo stratus]

Golden Foods are affected by bonuses that specify Golden Foods.
Ex:

• Shimmeron
• Haungry for Gold
• Royal Turban

[thorny zinc]

Bro pacisa is chatgpt v2 now

[indigo stratus]

Including accuracy not being 100%

[thorny zinc]

😭

[candid summit]

i use golden foods pretty much exclusively, hate the idea of depleting resources when infinite ones are right there

[indigo stratus]

The thing is, the Golden Foods don't give significant bonuses at first; you have to scale their quantities and boost multipliers that pertain to them.

With the exception of Golden Peanuts, this is a slow process

[limber sail]

pacisagpt how to get cooking things to speed up cooking

[thorny zinc]

Damn i forgot to be link's slave and do my gp today

[indigo stratus]

Define "cooking things"

[thorny zinc]

Bro even replies like a robot

[limber sail]

shadow whats it called again?

[thorny zinc]

Huh?

Laddles?

[limber sail]

the cooking utensil with blue goo inside

yes thanks

[thorny zinc]

Yeah laddles

[limber sail]

laddles

[indigo stratus]

bleep bop This is a "robot reply" bleep bop

[thorny zinc]

😭 i love this man

[limber sail]

"man"???

[indigo stratus]

AFK at the kitchen in W4 town. Can technically be done with any character, but is best done on Blood Berserker

[limber sail]

did u just assume this robot's gender?

[worldly gate]

Hey Pacisa, play Not like us

[thorny zinc]

Oh no i forgot we are in 2025

[limber sail]

afk at the town kitchen???

[white lintel]

food is super cheap tho and there's numerous ways to reduce the consume chance so its like 1% consumption chance so youll never really run out

[thorny zinc]

Yo arctis how was your day so far?

[indigo stratus]

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+many+genders+are+there%3F&sca_esv=1fcf1833b6ed7c4a&sxsrf=AHTn8zoT3q_4RPhML_BkdJg4F4KxbjYehw%3A1743025120071&source=hp&ei=4HPkZ8-RAvPOkPIP883T8Qg&oq=&gs_lp=EhFtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1ocCIAKgIIADIHECMYJxjqAjIKECMY8AUYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAjIHECMYJxjqAkj1C1AAWABwAXgAkAEAmAEAoAEAqgEAuAEByAEAmAIBoAIdqAIPmAMd8QXDQMtsRVH0yZIHATGgBwCyBwC4BwA&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-hp

[limber sail]

i wonder how many genders exists plus ur supposed to tell me not give me a link

[pine lantern]

Yo wtf why are your links so long

[candid summit]

that is very true...
i gave one to my vman and hes still got over a thousand

oh boy are we getting into gender discourse

[white lintel]

lets not

[candid summit]

yeah this is not the place for that

[limber sail]

what is a vman

[white path]

voidwalker

[limber sail]

a class?

[indigo stratus]

Successor to Maestro

[limber sail]

YWESSSSSSSS I GOT IT RIGHT FOR ONCEEEE

wait i keep clicking the guy sleeping but hes not talking

w4 town

[worldly gate]

When to make vman??

[pine lantern]

I think Lava needs to explain that opening quest for w4 better i spent 3 days collecting chips thinking thats what i need to but still didnt count it so i googled and i wouldve never thought i have to drag them and connect them 3 days down the drain lool xd

[limber sail]

chips?

CHIPS

CHIPS?!?!?!??!?!?!

[pine lantern]

Yeah you need to buy 3 chips to unlock a bonus

[limber sail]

WHERE

I NEED CHIPSSSSS

[thorny zinc]

Bro what

You mean the sleepy guy from w4?

[pine lantern]

There is a quest that says light up the 1st bonus

[limber sail]

GiMmE SoME NoW PlS

[indigo stratus]

Quest or task?

[pine lantern]

Quest, the one you have to do before you can continue down the portal

[thorny zinc]

you can light the lab bonus...

you dont need chips...

[limber sail]

is it normal im not in the kitchen but its showing my cooking lvl and exp

[radiant holly]

What would be the go-to armor upgrade be after void? Chizor?

[pine lantern]

Yeah i had no idea, thought the chips unlock the bonus, and those other ones will just unlock as i level up

[thorny zinc]

chiz or troll

[thorny zinc]

damn please when you dont know smth just ask here..

[indigo stratus]

You must be referring to Lab Experimentation, Ft You (last in the Gobo questline).

Not to be confused with the series of tasks Light Em Up, which also involves lighting bonuses

[limber sail]

ohhhhh u meant the chips like in a computer

[pine lantern]

Yes thats the quest name

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/oatmeal-meme-pop-cat-popping-cat-poggers-gif-1422903012547548053

[hard thistle]

The exp formulas on the wiki are really weird to calculate.

[hard thistle]

I should use summation right?

[junior bane]

how does bm give bredding progress

[thorny zinc]

idk exactly but ik its not worth doing it

[hard thistle]

Active kills have a 50% chance to give 3 seconds of progress.

[white lintel]

I used integration

[hard thistle]

Why integration?

[white lintel]

it should give a better result should it not?

[thorny zinc]

i think yes

[hard thistle]

I don't think so...

I got a different value when using summation

[white path]

wtf

[limber sail]

What are these

[white lintel]

that looks like the wrong formula

nope

nvm just small minus sign

I hate slow mode omg

[hard thistle]

Integration is the wrong way I think, idk how to explain.

[hard thistle]

Those are premium stones used for premium hats

[thorny zinc]

gear is getting better soon i will have full royal traps

[limber sail]

Ohhh what are premium hats and how to get

[thorny zinc]

events or gem shop

[nimble atlas]

!merit1

[candid scarab]

🛡️ Hemoglobin is a great way to increase survivability allowing you to push new maps faster. How much you need it will depend on factors like your equipment, progress in the W2 clicker and dungeon shop purchases. 3 points straight away with all 10 being bought by the start of W3 will probably be a good balance for most people.
1️⃣ The first 3 pieces of Amarok Gear are boots, pants and a chestplate giving decent defense and lots of upgrade slots making them great bang for your buck. A significant amount of people use this gear all the way to W4 or W5. Make sure to use the best upgrade stones you can. Recrafting Amarok Gear so you can apply better stones in the future is a good idea. The boxing gloves needed for task 3 can be crafted by reclaiming the crimson string from the quest list.
2️⃣ Bosses can give lots of great resources such as Amarok Slabs for armor and the Amarok Card giving skill afk gains. At max lvl you can expect to get two thirds of a kill extra for every key you use.
3️⃣ More respawn equals more kills and loot.
4️⃣ Your lowest leveled character isn't high priority. Can be a bit helpful but non-essential.
5️⃣ The last two Amarok recipes are a helmet requiring 5 rare Woodular Circles and a pendant requiring 25 Distilled Water and 4 Chaotic Amarok Slabs. They are about as good as the other pieces of equipment but at a much steeper price making it debatable if they are worth it at all.
6️⃣ You've gotten these bags before and can do so again while getting some extra rewards allowing you to spend your merit points on better upgrades.
⚔️ The star talents gives extra class xp or food effect. The former gives just +6.67% for 100 points but the latter can have a large effect on potions and skilling food. Put 1 point here when you start killing Baba Yaga. The other points are low priority since you can get good books without them.

[hard thistle]

Please use #bot-commands

[cyan sequoia]

I beat arena 50 today

[nimble atlas]

oh ok thx

[white lintel]

difference is relatively negligable

[thorny zinc]

damn balott made this way easier

[white lintel]

graph if that helps

[hard thistle]

Is that desmos graph?

[white lintel]

yes

[indigo stratus]

You can make any hat premium if you got the item

[pale thicket]

should i be ringing the bell or cleaning the bell?

[thorny zinc]

ring ring

[odd obsidian]

best item. vanity is awesome

[cyan sequoia]

is there any certain class level I should aspire to have all of my characters at?

[white path]

500

[cyan sequoia]

thanks my max is 448 and lowest is 325

[indigo stratus]

Closer to 600 for DB active farm

[thorny zinc]

500 maybe 600 on db

damn i really knew that

[cyan sequoia]

you know a lot of things

[thorny zinc]

i dont

[cyan sequoia]

do the library checkouts have a maximum limit for the count?

[indigo stratus]

DB is different bc it's master class, less talent points to go around

[vernal ledge]

What is a good use of exp balloons except of worshiping?

[white path]

cooking levels after 50

[vernal ledge]

so worshiping -> 50, then cooking

[plain heath]

do i have to make it to the map with the stone above it?

[plain heath]

the map system is really wonky bc its always like a map before

[torpid cedar]

The map with the stone is the boss map you need to reach the map before it

[plain heath]

so im 2 maps away (excluding my current one)

[torpid cedar]

Yup

And you need to afk in the last map a lil bit too to get some boss keys

[plain heath]

oh youre not given them through an npc?

[torpid cedar]

Nope from W4 and W5 boss keys drop from killing mobs

[plain heath]

should i use candies to make it to w5 or is it not worth

my kills per hour seem awfully low

[torpid cedar]

I dont remember the amount of kills needed for these portals so idk

But i would recommend leaving them for getting a quick few boss keys to get to W5 quicker

[plain heath]

my current portal is at 114k (the octopus one)

[nimble atlas]

wooo I resolved my accuracy issues by putting w4 stones into a new set of amorak armour (having my wizard put them in so my squire is fine in w4 now, at least for now)

hopefully what I did was an alright idea and not terrible, should I have made it an str set?

[torpid cedar]

Seems not worth it tbh

[plain heath]

mhm, my dmg is like depressingly low

[torpid cedar]

Vault , alchemy, stamps , equinox
These should be available for you at this point in the game and will give you a huge boost

See what you can do in them and work on it

[plain heath]

i alr maxed the dmg one in vault (the 1st one) and i forgor what equinox is but is it that w3 thing

[torpid cedar]

Ye the W3 mirror thingy

All the upgrades got max lvl

[plain heath]

no everything has a cap

[plain heath]

oh i dont have access to it so my only choices are stamp & alchemy

[true hamlet]

Honestly, now I'd say alch grinding isn't really worth it unless you're mid w5+

So just getting a few levels into every bubble will suffice

[torpid cedar]

This one

[torpid cedar]

Well now its alchemy and stamps

[plain heath]

i dont think its in the realm of grinding yet

[torpid cedar]

And maybe movement speed could help you too

[unborn sonnet]

so i did this autoview thing... i have a migraine now

[plain heath]

yea i havent unlocked it

[unborn sonnet]

cause the math says i should be early w3

[true hamlet]

I'd say owl and roo are probably going to make more sense to grind

[unborn sonnet]

but im in mid w6

[torpid cedar]

You can easily get like 50% of the bonus in less than 100 lvls so its worth considering

[plain heath]

yea this is my current roo + owl

[torpid cedar]

That means you got alot of backtracking to do

[unborn sonnet]

i literally just did constellations for the first tiem

[torpid cedar]

First time i used it it said am early W5 ~~ W7 waiting room XD

Now am late W6 ~~ W7 waiting room

[true hamlet]

Get to around eceltic 6 megfish

[plain heath]

is there an easy guide to follow? the pinned one in #newplayer-chat-w1🍀w2⏳ is very confusing to me

like when to do what

[true hamlet]

Yeah.. but people now enter w6 with their 10 bloach sample etc.

[keen parcel]

Eww

[torpid cedar]

These younglings with this damn vault update 👴

[nimble atlas]

do we get ways to raise upgrade stone success rate later on?

[true hamlet]

It's the most efficient but I don't follow it, it's doable playing it as if it was like owl, but you choose

[torpid cedar]

Back in my days the biggest problem was W2 accuracy wall now the biggest problem is back tracking 👴

[keen parcel]

There is in guild bonuses

[unborn sonnet]

so to be fair

[true hamlet]

It's always w4 accuracy though..

[unborn sonnet]

i was on w4 when vault came out

[plain heath]

same kek

i have 18 bloach sample rn

[torpid cedar]

Got stuck in W2 for 3 months cuz i was small braining XD

[plain heath]

is there at least a thing on like the reset vs fish vs other reset thing? i remember there being like multiple things

[keen parcel]

[nimble atlas]

advice for early game bloach sampling?

is it better to raise fishing level, or is it going to be pretty much all alchemy?

[torpid cedar]

I havent resampled in a year i think

[nimble atlas]

my bloach sampling is pretty dire 💀

[true hamlet]

Normal reset only once, rest should be mega

[keen parcel]

Fishing boost food, more effiency tools with more fishing power/speed increase prowess and other fishing related alchemy bubbles

[torpid cedar]

For early game i would say cards and gear would be more important (and any food that boost fishing speed/eff)

[keen parcel]

Also make sure you get as much purple dept as you can

[true hamlet]

Do kangaroo, good boost to fishing gains early on

[nimble atlas]

yeah I had the "weight" lure

[keen parcel]

So make sure lines and doopers are good

[low fox]

Any tips for getting past rift 44 where u need 60 wormhole kills on ES. I managed 43 but can't seem to get the 60. ES is lvl 429 maybe I just need more levels and to get better equipment?

[plain heath]

so normal reset once and never again?

[nimble atlas]

do we have a guide here for it?

[keen parcel]

Need more damage

[nimble atlas]

it's a lot less straight forward than the owl

[spring thistle]

How did i get this golden one and how can i get more of them

[true hamlet]

W1 w2 pins

[torpid cedar]

Time or dmg problem ?

[nimble atlas]

ty

[true hamlet]

Trimmed slot from atom collider I think?

[keen parcel]

Jewels potentially or atomm s

[torpid cedar]

If dmg try to put more lvls into the yellow beam skill thingy

[true hamlet]

Jewel is 2 trimmed right?

[spring thistle]

its atomm and thank you

[true hamlet]

It's probably atom

[keen parcel]

Could be

[spring thistle]

i dont have so many jewels and none that do anything for construction

[brave furnace]

anyone know why when i go to do the w4 quests the "light up 1st bonus" wont complete, when it clearly is lit up?

[keen parcel]

Think it was an bonus if you got all blue jewels active

[spring thistle]

oh that coulde

could

[keen parcel]

Tried reentering map?

[toxic quartz]

try cloud saving

happens a lot

[brave furnace]

had to forfeit quest for it to count, wierd

[robust inlet]

first cool coin

[toxic quartz]

🍝

[torpid cedar]

Do you not have this jewel ?

[spring thistle]

um actually no

[plain heath]

is there a thing that enables you to be in lab without being in lab

[torpid cedar]

This atom ?

[torpid cedar]

One of the gods idk

[plain heath]

w5 moment

[torpid cedar]

I got doot so i forgor

[keen parcel]

Artic god

[plain heath]

how it feels when poor

[keen parcel]

Just get free pull doot

[robust inlet]

arctis

[torpid cedar]

This guy

[torpid cedar]

F2p doot

[spring thistle]

Yeahh sorry for the late reply

[plain heath]

rigged

[keen parcel]

I got 2 off those

[torpid cedar]

F2p luck

[plain heath]

my luck doesnt do that

[spring thistle]

are there more upgrades or is this like a page just to show whats to come

[torpid cedar]

Show what to come

He might add more salt for refinery for W7 idk

[finite fractal]

what the sigma do i do with the bucket of slush

[toxic quartz]

drop it on the pile of snow in bloque map in w3 and you'll spawn the dilapidated slush boss

the number that spawns grows each day

you can check in it or ie

[finite fractal]

ok

[empty mulch]

im stuck at the rift with skulls that you have to increase until lava... whats the strat?

[true hamlet]

SB or bubo

[winged robin]

there is a reddit thread that helped me idk it but google

[torpid cedar]

SB

[winged robin]

If i remember correctly you want to prioritize hitting the highest skull you can and each time has a 50/50 chance of passing the next skull to a monster or resetting

[dense pine]

just make sure theres always a few mobs alive and youll be fine

especially when youre killinh higher skull tier mobs

[low fox]

thanks for suggestion I got up to 49/60 so it's progress. Ran out of SP so couldn't max it out without doing a rebuild so maybe I'll do that later

[full beacon]

do I ribbon this? seems good

upgrade is like the spice upgrades right

[torpid cedar]

Why not ribbon cooking speed instead?

[full beacon]

did that one 🙂

[torpid cedar]

Ye

[full beacon]

got a major ribbon on cabbage and a couple minor ones on eggs and whatever the third one is

[dense pine]

eh its nothing amazing

a low tier ribon wouldnt hurt tho ofc

[torpid cedar]

Anything you would ribbon would at this point is good value so do what you want

[full beacon]

what are good ones

[torpid cedar]

Skill eff maybe

[dense pine]

cabbage, gfood, farming stuff

[torpid cedar]

Lvl 9 plate

[full beacon]

ah ok I got a bit then, I only just finished discovering page 1

you wanna hear a funny story

[torpid cedar]

I personally would recommend the corn (skill eff)

[full beacon]

I had this for 1.5 weeks...........

[torpid cedar]

Claiming them every few hours is better than weekly

(and it helps for the achievement in W4)

[full beacon]

no I mean like I had breedability ones equipped thinking they are they same trait as the normal ones 🤣

that top row is generating 0/hr

[torpid cedar]

Oh i just noticed that lmao

[full beacon]

oh well

[torpid cedar]

(ngl did the same back when i was at W4 XD)

[full beacon]

when do I stop divlabbing

when I got every god at lvl 3 or something?

or am I just stuck in there forever

oh and should I be using mantra when I get it? nvm I see guide says points better than exp

[zenith hare]

the guides are wrong btw nowadays

[full beacon]

oh?

[zenith hare]

only do points instead until you get omni

afterwards swap to mantra till div 40

faster you get 40, the faster you get div 60 and 80

and those are insane xp and point gain

plus 40 allows you to leave lab/div and actually do stuff

while gaining div xp

(it's 3xp an hour no matter what you're doing)

[full beacon]

ah yes I see 3 exp alwsays

ok let me swap to focus for now then, I'm still on chakra

[zenith hare]

the guides don't take into account that hole and w6 exists btw*

that's why they're out of date

[tight cape]

breedability multiplier doesn't affect pet power right? just next pet chance

[dusty apex]

yes

so its only use after getting the pet is for the achievements and tome score

[tight cape]

kk

[zenith hare]

and technically shiny chance but that isn't much of an issue

[low crescent]

I got two questions.

Should I hoard the damaged cogs from world 3?

Should I also hoard the potions from the W4 shop. (I ask that because there is a ridiculous amount of them in stock)

[white lintel]

cogs no, pots yes

[low crescent]

Is there a fast way to get the potions from the shop to the chest? It's taking forever to keep running back and forth.

[white lintel]

Ram

And quick access shop

Some achieves activate EZ access nodes

[waxen copper]

Uhhhh where are some up to date TD guides again

[white path]

#1277368276095336558 message

[analog canyon]

Where in world 3 can I find the eternal lord thing it's like a critter pls help

[white lintel]

Penguin dude

[mild cedar]

How come blood berserker's the only class without mob respawn?

[white lintel]

Because he’s a loser

[analog canyon]

Beuh I searched everywhere for that penguin

[white lintel]

He gets one with DB

[mild cedar]

really does feel like it lol, started going for db now

[nimble atlas]

Are richelin kitchens worth it if I have spare gems?

I already have the hammers and 3d printer. And cauldron upgrades.

[white lintel]

just get one

[nimble atlas]

okay. will I ever need to get more, like am I getting one "for now" or is it never worth getting more than one?

[mild cedar]

ye i regret gettin 3 richilin, 1 feels like all that was needed ( bare in mind i havn't trained cooking yet so this might change at some point)

[white lintel]

Not really worth having more than one, you could but meh

[mild cedar]

cooking is happening at some point... i guess 🤣

[nimble atlas]

good to know thanks.

[mild cedar]

after div hell and hole and all the other stuff

[silver nymph]

I unlocked equinox, but as mid w4 is this even remotely realistic to start

[white lintel]

Div is a w5 skill, the hole is like equinox or the rift but like 100x more in depth

[mild cedar]

i pretend equinox doesn't exist yet as someone who just entered w6

[formal nimbus]

what's the function exactly of the "auto refine at x%", like i get it ranks up at 100 but what's the difference at all between everything other than 0

why not keep them at 10 if im not ranking up

[torpid cedar]

Ye what is the point of anything other than 10 and 0

[strange flare]

I keep mine at 90% so if I need to switch to to 0% for a rank up I would likely already have a head start

[mild cedar]

oh well speak of the devil, got leek now so i guess i somewhat have to care for equinox now

[torpid cedar]

Ig thats useful for the void and the pink salt thingy

[torpid cedar]

Time to wait but faster

[wraith pollen]

How big of a hole have I dug myself? My main character is lvl 135ish mid world 4 and I didn’t know about star signs until this morning, I don’t have too much alchemy done yet, I just started trapping and 3D printing and in total I have 7 characters each over lvl 80

[white lintel]

You’re fine

Use 3D printer to fuel refinery #1 priority

[flint zinc]

Is there a max for orion and roo?

[pale thicket]

omg thank you, you showed me the light at the end of the tunnel i been so bored keeping them all in lab then divinity

[lunar basin]

bro i made 10 sets of luster before finishing world 4 you havent sunk that much time yet

thought you werent supposed to use food always aimed for 100% survival with no food, took me the better part of a year to get where people get in 2 weeks

[pale thicket]

😮 oh wow and here im struggling with dementia or however you spell it and im more the halfway done world 5

[lunar basin]

it was rough man if i used food i could of printed those resources in a day AND those armor sets dont even turn into anything good

[wraith pollen]

I used potions and hemoglobin I got lucky and got golem early

[pale thicket]

do i go for the 100 percent?

[torpid cedar]

Always

[pale thicket]

ok next question then, do those offerings reset at any time?

[torpid cedar]

Nope

They change when you pick one of them

[pale thicket]

oh phew, i was not getting 1.569 before tonight

[sleek bane]

Nah just starts taking forever

[wraith pollen]

Thanks for the reassurance but what can I do to dig myself out of the accuracy and defense deficit

Besides FMJ and Shaqracy

[haughty aurora]

how can i get my kills per hour up

[indigo stratus]

Gear, cards, vault has def upgrades

[sleek bane]

Wat dafuk

[lunar basin]

i was given really bad advice when i started the game, first advice was to get dementia tools asap so im sitting there with a bunch of level 30 characters getting trash xp/h

[wraith pollen]

I know multi kill, kill per kill, and boosting up you max damage to increase multi kill tier

[lunar basin]

swear level 50-100 in stats goes faster than 1-45 did

[indigo stratus]

It's okay, w4 was different time when that was the last world

[haughty aurora]

my mk is so bad tho. it is like lvl 2

becasuse i never did refinery

[wraith pollen]

For what enemy

[worldly tapir]

would any expericed player like to do review my acc to try to help me

[pale thicket]

wtf?

[wraith pollen]

Same boat here I just have the damage to make up for it

[sleek bane]

[torpid cedar]

Afk gains , dmg , multikill , movement speed and cards

[wraith pollen]

Pure comedy until you get it yourself

Also what is a sufficient kph to consider working towards vman

[torpid cedar]

How far in the game are you ?

[lunar basin]

tbh id get crystal 3d printer, put half resources into fueling refinery put half resources into printing alchemy, you might want to print the resources for accuracy immediately but consider printing skill efficiency bubble materials that will make your combat resources print even faster

unlock all stamps, there are like 3-5 for accuracy not just the first stamp

roo orion and vault should carry you to the end of w3 alone and even with minimal alchemy investment w4 should be cake ngl

[worldly tapir]

w4

[flint zinc]

Im scared guys acc to low 😔

[wraith pollen]

Alr thanks man

[torpid cedar]

Main stuff : construction, refinery, unlock bubbles and get some "no bubble left behind" gains going , work on your vials , get your stamps to 4~6K lvls , work a lil on rift if you got there

[worldly tapir]

but like stats points hat i hould be doping in the mean time all the small stuuff

[torpid cedar]

Don't over think stat points just do one preset for compat and another for skilling

[worldly tapir]

okt hx

[torpid cedar]

You will eventually have all talents maxed on one preset

[wraith pollen]

Also will 6-20mil damage be able to carry me through w4

[torpid cedar]

You can work with it but still try to find stuff to boost your smg further

Equinox, vault , bubbles , stamps

[wraith pollen]

I have a few weapon upgrades to do and other stuff

And I was just curious

[torpid cedar]

If you can get gear upgrade it would be nice but don't hyper focus on getting your items materials if you are struggling to get them

[wraith pollen]

I got w2 gear so

[torpid cedar]

I think i had void gear for W4 ? I forgor

[torpid cedar]

At least have W3 armor 😭

[cerulean meteor]

i had dementia gear

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[wraith pollen]

I’m rocking Amarok and a dementia helm so w1 and w2

[torpid cedar]

Well thats helpful XD

[wraith pollen]

To be fair I did this in a week and a half

[torpid cedar]

This damn vault update 👴

You younglings dont know the struggle

[cerulean meteor]

yea, dementia maybe in tab 3, but it isnt w3 stuff

[cerulean meteor]

ikr

[torpid cedar]

Its been over a year i forgor what i had XD

[pale thicket]

are the orange things on stilts crystal mobs?

[cerulean meteor]

i think those are w5 cyrstals yea

[lunar basin]

there was a guy at kruk today with 11m damage o.O cant even imagine how long that took him

[pale thicket]

ahhhh ok they been spawning a lot and i wondered what happened

[torpid cedar]

Capybaras

[cerulean meteor]

dude i beat nightmare kruk with 10B damage max

[wraith pollen]

This is reassuring

[cerulean meteor]

base attack but still

[lunar basin]

O_O curious was that on a ES or SB or?

[wraith pollen]

Who

[lunar basin]

blue star

[quiet grail]

I can finally start making Ultimate Cogs!

[wraith pollen]

Also am I dumb for pushing w4 with ES

[quiet grail]

Nope

[sleek bane]

How long did it take

[quiet grail]

Theres a couple time gated stuff, that'll cook in the background

[cerulean meteor]

at least an hour

[wraith pollen]

I heard using DK or Bubo was best so I was curious

[cerulean meteor]

nah i did the same

[quiet grail]

I went all the way to world 6 so all the timegated stuff will happen as I catch up

[cerulean meteor]

ES aint bad, tho ive heard BB is actually the best

[pale thicket]

its what i did

[cerulean meteor]

for w4 anyway

you switch to DK for w5 anyway

[quiet grail]

I used Siege Breaker with Time candy, But DK is best for Active

[wraith pollen]

Also do I get my BB or BM for my second elite class

[sleek bane]

[wraith pollen]

Pain

[cerulean meteor]

BB

he will be a cooking slave for a while tho

[wraith pollen]

K I’ve been leveling up my eggs and working towards lettuce bc cooking speed

[cerulean meteor]

half the time i was walking, and the other half i was listening to music. it was fully afkable

[lunar basin]

my vman basically 3 hit nm kruk when i did it 😭 557b-800b damage (with multi punch talent = much more)

[cerulean meteor]

just took a damn long time

[wraith pollen]

Speaking of is it viable to get my 12mil green mush kills with about 25k an hour on my maestro

[sleek bane]

How much candy are you willing to spend

[quiet grail]

Just wait, It took me like a couple hours on mine when I reached world 6

[cerulean meteor]

^

[sleek bane]

But 25k is quite low

[wraith pollen]

I have about 48hrs worth

[sleek bane]

Ok hell nah then

[wraith pollen]

I’m still working on my multi kill so it’s a bit low

[quiet grail]

I had like 300k an hour

[cerulean meteor]

same

[wraith pollen]

I was thinking at least 100k or 50k minimum

[sleek bane]

I don’t even remember

[quiet grail]

Just keep pushing worlds, World 5 is Huge

[sleek bane]

100k is still 120 hours of candy lol

[lunar basin]

someone just told me about crystal island, do you visit there every day/once a week to get free time candy? 25k a hour means 470 hours i mean people do that for guarenteed drops all the time

so sure you could do it but i wouldnt

[quiet grail]

It's better to wait on the Vman stuff

[cerulean meteor]

you get candy from crystals you kill there

[wraith pollen]

I’m just an impatient being and definitely didn’t accidentally leave my maestro on mushrooms for 500k kills bc my internet died while I was playing

[pale thicket]

i have 377 hours of candy and i been using them like crazy

[lunar basin]

yes sir just got my first free 15h time candy from crystal island an hour ago, you also get free candy from the w3 prayer that spawns giant mobs

[quiet grail]

lmao

that's a good starting point

[cerulean meteor]

there is no 15hr?

[wraith pollen]

Cosmic?

[torpid cedar]

Probably means 15h worth

[lunar basin]

no like, 7 1 hour 3 2 hour 1 4 hour or whatever i forget exactly

[cerulean meteor]

ah ok

[cerulean meteor]

true, but that be variable

[sleek bane]

Biggest source is giant mobs

[wraith pollen]

I used one by accident and got 7hrs I

[cerulean meteor]

that is 17hrs if my math aint stupid

[sleek bane]

And stacked dk orb on minis 2nd prob

[wraith pollen]

This seems right

[sleek bane]

Also some star signs give you candy if you afk for a while

[cerulean meteor]

yea, 3*2=6, 6+4=10, 10+7=17

[wraith pollen]

Isn’t there are star talent that does that too

[lunar basin]

😅 yh lol thats why i said "or whatever i forget exactly"

the main point is = are you going to crystal island to get free daily time candies, or you can do it every few days

[wraith pollen]

Also why does the Sephiroth’s theme go really well with elemental sorcerer

[snow sinew]

I previously bought the potato chip in a previous rotation, but it says that its sold out. Am I only allowed to buy 1 chip for the account as a whole? I have the materials to buy it

[lunar basin]

i have heard that that occurs when you dont purchase any chip in a rotation between then and now, for some reason the game likes to think you just bought it

[torpid cedar]

Are you sure you are in another rotation / didn't already buy it in this rotation

[snow sinew]

Yeah i bought it the last time it was in rotation, its a new rotation now

[torpid cedar]

Oh i didnt know that could happen ngl

[snow sinew]

:/ that sucks

[sleek bane]

Potato chip is ass anyway

Would suck if that was a doubler

[thin wind]

As a new player with only like 2 pets I got 1k pet gems from the ram pack. Which treat level should I buy? basic, nice, tasty or deluxe?

[next falcon]

how do i get more team slots in battle in breeding grounds

[wraith pollen]

Depends on what your aiming for and how many pets you want

[tidal ibex]

are sample size % account wide or you have to grind it individual character

[torpid cedar]

If you are new i think the legacy pets would be more useful kinda ?

[wraith pollen]

Doing coliseum boosts your pet slots when you beat certain waves

[cerulean meteor]

especially doot

[next falcon]

if its stamps and alchemy its account wide but talent is individual right?

[torpid cedar]

Rift slug is huge for early game XD

[sleek bane]

Each char can have their own

[sleek bane]

Rift slug is just huge

[cerulean meteor]

oh yea doot doesnt do anything until w5 right

[sleek bane]

Hitting tenteycle 200 early is insane

[sleek bane]

Yea you need lvl 2 div on everyone

[thin wind]

so I should go for legacy because of rift slug?

[torpid cedar]

The other pets too got good bonuses

[sleek bane]

Ngl you could probably ask around for most of the new pets

Besides sam and jocund prob

[thin wind]

I was looking at the rift jocund a little from current pack. But other than that it's the only one from current I'd want

[wraith pollen]

Mole golem jocund and the commons aren’t bad for w3 onwards

[torpid cedar]

Would probably try my luck that way after a couple of weeks XD

[sleek bane]

Smh these tutorial players don’t know about the hole

Samurai is easily the best pet of the new bunch

[cerulean meteor]

ikr

[cerulean meteor]

is it really better than doot?

[torpid cedar]

I think the leek is better tbh

[torpid cedar]

The equinox one

[sleek bane]

I said new bunch

[sleek bane]

U are delusional

No offense

[torpid cedar]

You only need so many villager lvls not inf

[sleek bane]

More caverns will come out

[torpid cedar]

Look at the equinox fill rate

[torpid cedar]

More bonuses will come with them

It will keep up with itself

[sleek bane]

And u acting like it doesn’t take forever even with current villagers

People who got to c15 instantly have insanely juiced monus and had lanterns

[torpid cedar]

At least i see the finish line with villagers not in equinox

[sleek bane]

Also conjuror has a multi for equi

[torpid cedar]

(for current hole)

[sleek bane]

I feel like for most players samurai has way more impact

Leek is better if you are super far in equi and done with hole

Which is like top 1% of players

[torpid cedar]

Well i cant argue that samurai gives a MASSIVE bonus to your hole gain but that doesn't make the leek value fade away

[sleek bane]

I never said that leek was bad

I’m just saying I think samurai is easily the best out of the new set

[torpid cedar]

Fair enough

[sleek bane]

Lowkey golem is mid

[torpid cedar]

Am talking like i got both while am vibing with a gmush and a frog XD

[torpid cedar]

Highkey it was not needed

[sleek bane]

Golem is basically just making even more super rushed players

Kinda dumb imo

[covert iris]

what auto-refine percent should i set my orange and blue salts?

[torpid cedar]

Endgame players : nice now i can go from 52 multikill tier to 52 multikill tier :D

[indigo stratus]

10x dmg would come in handy for that 100b gmush farming

[sleek bane]

Mfs going from 100qq to 1000qq still hitting max multi on everything

My bad I forgot some qs

[torpid cedar]

Was about to say that XD

[cerulean meteor]

ikr

[torpid cedar]

Even i got higher than that XD

[cerulean meteor]

nice im only at 14B

sorry i meant 14710M

and that is on DK with damage cards

[sleek bane]

There really needs to be numbers above t

[torpid cedar]

I still remember the first time i saw that glorious 10mil dmg

[dusty apex]

This general chatter can go to #idleon-gen-chat

Channel is meant for asking w3 and w4 questions

[covert iris]

what auto-refine percent should i set my orange and blue salts?

[sleek bane]

10 or 90 imo

10 is so you get salts asap 90 is so you can rank up without waiting as long when you want to

But it’s pretty much just dependent on how fast you need the salts

[covert iris]

alright thanks

[indigo stratus]

[lunar basin]

you definitely should aim to have the right balance on ranks if you didnt know having too high a level in the lower salts will cause you to have a deficit, took me months to fix my ranks when i finally learned about them

so if you had a level 4 blue salt with a level 14 red salt you would always run out of orange salt

[sleek bane]

Once you hit 1 mil cap on red ranking up red becomes a lot easier

[normal barn]

can giant monsters from the tachion prayer spawn when the char is afk?

[hasty phoenix]

Is there a way to check my meal speed and recipe speed?

[barren ruin]

You can in the kitchen upgrade tab

[hasty phoenix]

Ah right thank you

[boreal olive]

theres no reason not to use this right? you still get exp etc?

[lunar basin]

that doesnt work as intended anyway

we were just talking bout this in w5 from what i understood is that that activates before the items are physically created, so the items produced from anvil arent actually there until you claim your afk gains, then they get generated, this claims the resources at daily reset, but since they arent physically created it generally doesnt have anything to deposit... would be useful if you often forget to claim anvil items though

[hasty phoenix]

does this salt means eventually ill have to be farming mouses constantly?

[ripe coyote]

trapping is ez pz

[hasty phoenix]

Yea but like will it get to a point that it will be ridiculous ammount of mouses or will trapping a couple from time to time will suffice in the long run?

[sour sail]

HELLOOOOO

How are you guys

[hallow bear]

Do shrines get exp from w5 town if i afk monument of bravery?

[sour sail]

Am i doing good?

[hallow bear]

Good compared to wat

[sour sail]

?

[sour sail]

Just at damage and stuff

[hallow bear]

Seems okay

[midnight bison]

whats the 115 equinox lineup

[sour sail]

Im at mid w3

[indigo stratus]

Should be good to push to w4

[sour sail]

Only thing im worried about is acc

[thin wind]

your acc is way more than enough don't worry about that. I have half that and I was able to hit the last zones mobs in W3

[indigo stratus]

It's been while, but that acc should be good for w3

[sour sail]

Oh ok, btw should i use time candies to get to w3 boss?

[indigo stratus]

Why not

[sour sail]

Ok

[thin wind]

You can if you want, that's what I just did. used a bunch to get to W4.

[sour sail]

Ok

[indigo stratus]

You get plenty

[sour sail]

I have like 50 1hr time candies, is it enough

[sour sail]

K

[indigo stratus]

You can farm 3 per day, per character, from the first picnic quest in w1

[sour sail]

Picnic quest? Which one is that

[indigo stratus]

Wait, sry, it's only 1 per char

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Picnic_Stowaway

[stray hornet]

whats some ways i can raise my def atk and acc im struggling to meet the required amount

[indigo stratus]

Bubbles, fmj for def Shaq for acc

[sour sail]

Btw is this good in w3?

[thin wind]

I got one feather I should really work on that

[indigo stratus]

Can't say, wasn't released til i was much further into game

[stray hornet]

thank you and another question is there anyway to raise my liquid regneration after i maxed out the pots and if so whats the best way to without spending millions upon millions of resources

[indigo stratus]

But yes, owl and roo great for def, acc and dmg too

[sour sail]

K, but this is actually a really good source of acc for me, gave me like 1-2k acc i think

[thin wind]

bucklered up is good, depending on class getting the stat that increases your acc is a good tip, I have 100 in wis on my warrior. gilded sword is amazing for damage. Other than that some stats are class specific. it wouldn't hurt to test around by putting one point into a skill to see how much it increases your damage.

[sour sail]

Yea

[torn burrow]

Not bad for sure

[indigo stratus]

Shaman, active play with cranium cooking

[thin wind]

Also potion foods are a great way to increase your damage if you're not using them already. and Food that gives you health can bypass your def requirement and make it so you can not die easier.

[torn burrow]

Just don't spend too much time at owl

[sour sail]

Ok

[stray hornet]

i have a blood beserker i tried to find a guide for its skills but im not sure what to put my points in

[sour sail]

I wont, but it did basically gave me half of my acc

[indigo stratus]

Str is always good. The active skills don't need to be high level if you afk, unless that was changed

[sour sail]

So is 50 1hr time candies enough to get me to w4?

[thin wind]

If you're not in a guild I think there's also buffs and bonuses from them. so if you join a high level one that might help you.

[indigo stratus]

Depends on kph and how far into w3

[stray hornet]

i am but its not active anymore

[sour sail]

Im like a couple of worlds away from the boss i think

[indigo stratus]

Should be plenty

[sour sail]

Btw is there any special quests for elite classes?

[indigo stratus]

Idr, I was in w4 when it first unlocked, iirc. I can check, though

[sour sail]

Ok

[stray hornet]

not really you kill a couple green genie things and there you go

[sour sail]

K so it needs mob kills basically?

[sleek bane]

the quest is trivial

[stray hornet]

yeah very little of em once i got to the area it took me like 5 minutes mainly because they did a lot of dmg to me

[sleek bane]

harder part is getting to the map

[sour sail]

K so its basically free?

Nice, dont gotta worry lol

Was worried it would be a special quest for each class

[sour sail]

Should i push to w4 rn?

[indigo stratus]

Once you get to w4, you'll likely be in lab with all but one

[sour sail]

W4 is a nightmare to characters frfr

[ripe coyote]

ur not gonna be able to push W4 fr cause ur low defense

[pale thicket]

idk what im doing wrong i swear i get less kills while active then with afk

[indigo stratus]

Thats what food is for

[cerulean meteor]

i have the same issue

[ripe coyote]

afk bonus thats why

[indigo stratus]

Depends on what you're doing and the class and such lol