midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[zenith hare]

printer output rate

example

(oh wow i can hourly click it, didnt realise)

(thats on IT btw)

[worldly gate]

Does 2 bubo's passive stack in the lab?

[zenith hare]

no, no elite class talent does

[worldly gate]

Thanks

[plain heath]

is this bundle not worth it

[latent bramble]

though 2 bubos does allow you to use both green and purple tube bonuses at the same time for the whole family and gives you double lab transferral gains
wonder if that'll be the new meta with master classes

[remote steppe]

Why cant i check out the base stat books?

[latent bramble]

Base stat talent levels are affected by tab 3/4 talents of their respective class and by VMan tab 4 talents, so you can't check out books for them
This is the same for the tab 1 talents like Meat Shank and Mana Overdrive which are increased by tab 3 talents

[strange flare]

Vman does too with one bubo tho

Unless you’re down bad for lab levels not sure why you’d need two transferrals

[latent bramble]

more levels is more levels

[strange flare]

That’s true

[latent bramble]

especially early on

[strange flare]

More sword damage

I may need to find out how to minmax skill exp

[hearty arch]

what can you do when your higher salts levels are out of whack? I currently have red 14, orange 8, blue 7. Do I just have to turn blue off half the time?

[livid remnant]

Hey guys

Can anyone help me with stat build for maestro

[haughty aurora]

@warm grove

[true hamlet]

Yeah, just make sure green doesn't drain blue off

[real copper]

How does the tome work? Is it for everyone that’s ever downloaded Idleon or only the people who made it to world 4 are counted in the metric?

[true hamlet]

Anyone who unlocked tome iirc

[real copper]

Alright

[tawny venture]

Is there a way I can remove upgrades on my armor?

[thorny zinc]

No

[tawny venture]

Bru this purple necklace thing has like a 1 in 500k drop chance 💔

And I can’t used anything on it anymore

[thorny zinc]

What necklace?

[fathom pewter]

im guessing the one droped outside the mamoth boss of world 2

[thorny zinc]

Oh

[tawny venture]

Ye

I spent days grinding for it

[thorny zinc]

Dw its not that great

You wont use it later anyway

[fathom pewter]

you need it for the slab, so be happy

[thorny zinc]

Yeah thats the only use of it

[tawny venture]

I wa just collecting everything before I go to world four

[thorny zinc]

Not the best thing to do

But you play whatever you like

[fathom pewter]

also i though the dev said they fixed the issue with the one Tee shirt

[tawny venture]

You fr?

[fathom pewter]

blue one i think, i still cant craft it tho

[thorny zinc]

They fixed it

[tawny venture]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-the-office-win-winning-yes-gif-6125847

[thorny zinc]

You should have the recipe now arl unlocked

[true hamlet]

Completion token

[thorny zinc]

And be able to craft it

That as well yeah

[true hamlet]

Keep it, needed for a craft

[fathom pewter]

i will try again when i get home, couldt earlier today

[pale thicket]

can someone explain the math for this?

[true hamlet]

What about it

It's just rounding

[hardy ember]

Wassup gang, made it to w3, what should I rush

[pale thicket]

i count 14 and it says 11

[true hamlet]

Great, now just don't screw up construction

[true hamlet]

Every number there is rounded up iirc, so 1.01p/h rounds to 2 in that ui

[pale thicket]

thats annoying

[true hamlet]

The total is more accurate

Only an issue earlier on, once you're around 1 week in, should be fine

[tender steeple]

How do i level my vmans skills past everyone elses easily

[hardy ember]

Woah, where is that from?

[tender steeple]

my pic?

[hardy ember]

yeah

[tender steeple]

https://idleontoolbox.com/characters

[strange flare]

Candy or suffering

[indigo stratus]

Farming crystal helps reduce exp needed

[tender steeple]

Any good reference on what to farm with maestro transfusion

[strange flare]

Trapping levels

[broken moat]

Hello... i see Lava added some kind of cave minigame... probably inspired by RPG games with dungeons... how do i enter a cave?

[strange flare]

I forget people actually use that

[true hamlet]

Once you get nature traps, vman should always be running them with highest unlocked critters and placed with maestro transfusion active

[tender steeple]

What about for like mining/chopping/catching

[true hamlet]

Just go to a node that gives you highest exp/h

Vman can stay ahead by skilling 24/7

The other chars only level skilling for better tools

Gathering resources should be done by printer

[strange flare]

Yeah don’t afk skilling ever

[tender steeple]

my vman cant gather some things my other chars can

[strange flare]

Need more account progress like tools then

How far behind is your vman

[willow jacinth]

Balloons

[true hamlet]

Just whatever you get the best xp for

[indigo stratus]

You could try equinox, it's pretty good exp

[true hamlet]

Best resource doesn't necessarily mean best xp

[fathom pewter]

and stamps tho atm i swear my lab is printing divine orbs thx to a bonus from divinity >.>

[tender steeple]

Chopping is 14 behind, catching is 6, worship is 28, alch is 30, smithing is 4, alch is 8, construction is 81, div is 25, sneaking isnt unlocked for vman yet, mining is 15, fishing is 10, trapping is 6, and cooking is 30 compared to the pic

I absolutly need to upgrade everyones gear including my strongest

[full beacon]

I feel like gear isn't insanely important other than rings/pendant, as long as you're hitting your acc/def thresholds

[fathom pewter]

if im being honest game dose really gear check you tell like late world 4 and its not that bad

[quaint wing]

what should i swing for my 8th character? ive already got one of each specialized class including jman

[full beacon]

either es or dk

I think most ppl just say dk

[fathom pewter]

i doubled down on the DK and chimist

err plauge doctor

2 cranium cooking a day help alchemy alot

[indigo stratus]

Only need 1 if you active play w/ tenteyecle

[fathom pewter]

and once you start your war on the heralds of vit C it gets kinda stupid

[indigo stratus]

Though my second is coming in clutch farming 2100 lab acct levels

[fathom pewter]

o yea there is that too, have an alca as the first and last slot in lab for some fun, and they bleed other people lab exp to boot

also i have a filling you have crainum cookings bubble further than i do, mine is only like 68 atm so would be still really long times between uses

[true hamlet]

Don't bother keeping alch and construction ahead, it doesn't do anything and it actually might slow you down especially for construction

[white lintel]

DK fs

[indigo stratus]

These help lots too

[quaint wing]

why dk specifically? seems more geared to active play so im not sure the benefit of having a 2nd one to afk something

[white lintel]

because its basically a 2x increase in Build rate in construction, which is really foundational for your account

[quaint wing]

oh the construction talent bonuses stack? im sold

construction seems painfully slow to really get to a good level..

[white lintel]

are you using xp cogs?

[hushed breach]

is there a req printer line up? like what each character should focus on?

[white lintel]

yes

specialized skills
BM does refinery bc he sucks

[quaint wing]

some, i havent gotten too far in to where ill start getting the crazy good cogs tho. most of my xp bonuses are like 2% 4% 6% maybe, but im def adding them all

[white lintel]

what cogs are you producing?

[quaint wing]

2nd tier

[hushed breach]

is there a picture or something i could ref since reading is hard

[quaint wing]

still need more construction levels

[white lintel]

I can give you a spreadsheet, just dont follow it exactly just look at the types of things being printed

[quaint wing]

i would also appreciate that sheet if you can send it to me too

[white lintel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW_lVDeIMZjIc5u5yy8Np1z7ixmNV-Hy49aCWYGv210/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[quaint wing]

nice

[white lintel]

sounds like you need to push your call me bob bubble

[night oracle]

Is it bad that my ES is lvl 176 and the rest is staying in lab at 105?

[indigo stratus]

No

[white lintel]

its typical of when youre pushing

[quaint wing]

im doing what i can, i rushed w5 as quick as i could and now im just levelling divinity and trying to bring up my low skills. am trying to prioritize good bubbles tho

[night oracle]

Alr, it feels so wrong though

[indigo stratus]

Just remember, once you get to w5 and get divinity leveled you can grind both at same time.

[night oracle]

You mean divinity and lab?

[white lintel]

active farm on mustache map for some combs to get call me bob up some

[ruby loom]

when family bonus is in red, does that mean it's not in use

[hushed breach]

last question.... samples you want to maximize skill eff right? dont give a shit about xp

[flint zinc]

Does fisheroo investment work on greatest catch

[indigo stratus]

Yeah, but unless you have doot it's later divine

[white lintel]

that means theres another same class toon higher class lvl so its using that instead

[ruby loom]

kinda figure, ty

[haughty aurora]

w drip

[broken moat]

Woot they added new accuracy boost

U just need to pay game money

[white lintel]

the vault?

[nimble atlas]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[nimble atlas]

i don't see where to get the ring that looks like a spikier rex ring. It doesn't seem to be from the dungeon shop.

[quaint wing]

its craftable

[lunar basin]

no chance in hell my foragers can do the final territories, anyone have a decent lineup for spice farming the final territories?

[quaint wing]

takes 1000 iron and a regular rex ring. you get the recipe from baba yaga

[nimble atlas]

what's the respawn rate on it?

I did kill it a few times.

[quaint wing]

it only comes up once an hour i believe

right before the hour, so you'd go to the map right now pretty much

drop rate isnt bad

[haughty aurora]

what is this

[quaint wing]

go to the map with the goblin things

[exotic dock]

is there a way to see what your crystal spawn chance is?

[quaint wing]

its the totem there

[sly nova]

Skill dimwit

[wise drift]

I'm pushing rifts and am about to unlock the rift 36 bonus, and seems like the bonuses are getting a bit more end-gamey. Is there any particular spot an early w6er should stop pushing rifts?

[sly nova]

Toolbox

!tb

[exotic dock]

thanks, i just saw that. 1 in 138 😦

[sly nova]

Eh? How?

[sly nova]

Get all tbh

[wise drift]

it's kinda slowing down though where it takes like 2 days to push 5 mil afks with multiple chars on it

[sly nova]

Get to killroy

[pastel portal]

why does it refuse to restock when i clearly dont have all jewels

[sly nova]

"restock each week"

[pastel portal]

its been 3 weeks

[sly nova]

Ohhh need lab lvl 2100

[pastel portal]

for what :?

[sly nova]

It's hard when someone who doesn't read

[minor relic]

14.77x dr 1/58 crystal do i start farming pecunia at clammies

[sly nova]

Read your jade empo... It says everything on that jewel you want to get

[proud torrent]

I just unlocked the atom collider, do I need the resources in my inventory to work?

[haughty aurora]

how do i use no bubble left behind

[white path]

happens at daily reset

[rugged kiln]

No

Just your storage chest

[unique maple]

hey guys im stuck on gobo quest w4 spicy cooking it says i need to afk in kitchen area for 15 but the counter never goes up ive made the recipe and everything but idk how to complete that part

[latent bramble]

did you leave a character in the kitchen then afk (aka move to another character or exit the game?)

[unique maple]

yeah i thought it was that so switched to another char for 2 min to check but the counter didnt move should i just leave for the full 15?

[hushed breach]

is royal sampler 100% needed for printing? the xp loss seems like a hard hit? is that xp also class xp

[rugged kiln]

The XP generally isn’t an issue and the boost you get is worth it

[hushed breach]

oh is the xp loss additive?

[white lintel]

Class xp and additive

[woeful karma]

oh its amazing

damn
youve pulled ahead of me bubble wise by just a few

[white lintel]

bubo just provides the aoe poison, you can chain aura and respawn talents as a shaman

[woeful karma]

true

[plain heath]

which battle tower defense things do i upgrade? (i couldnt get to wave 10 of waka p sure)

[sleek bane]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[sleek bane]

There’s some early td guides in there

They a bit outdated but fine for starting

[plain heath]

is there an order in which i should get to a specific wave on a totem before going to the next/going back to one?

[sleek bane]

Nah you should just do as many as you can

[plain heath]

hm, so no real order in upgrading? im here atm

(basically all lvl 1, pulse mage at 2)

[white lintel]

Boulder roller

[rain dirge]

Am I doing cooking wrong or is it just extremely snail-like for a long time?

[cold wraith]

its pretty slow till you start getting diamond plates for dia chef bubble

cabbage is a pretty good early meal for speed

then ramps up with vman and void plate

[rain dirge]

Cabbage is level 10 and that took me like 4 days to get or something

[cold wraith]

have you started grtting dia plates?

[rain dirge]

and putting 100 points into vman gave me 1% speed.

[cold wraith]

you need a lot of meal levels to get it started

[rain dirge]

I'm going to assume no as I don't know what that is.

[cold wraith]

i would focus on using 90% bargain tag on dia chef bubble whenever you can

its like the 14th yellow bubble or smth

looks like a chef hat

[rain dirge]

Ahh, I haven't done it because I didn't have enough of the spices required.

[cold wraith]

yea getting that and stacking lv 11 plates will get your meal speed rolling

[rain dirge]

Thanks bud, appreciate the advice.

[dusty harness]

bleach cauldron stacks with draconic?

[strange flare]

yeah

[vast adder]

Hey guys what should my prints be at to start using the atom collider

[dusty harness]

prob a few mil with harriep and lab bonus

[vast adder]

Is 2.7mil copper and 2.3 logs with the 6x good then

[dusty harness]

you can unlock the first few atoms

[white lintel]

a solid number for early atom collider would maybe be 500M combined per hour prints (that number if final after all bonuses or around 50 atoms per hour)
youll def want to up it to get into the better atoms though

[plain heath]

how do i get this easier
i still havent gotten a single one

[vast adder]

Ok thanks I'll work on that I'm at 83m total rn with all bonuses

[white lintel]

20 min claim with silkskin traps

[plain heath]

im guessing i cant candy it

😔

[twilit flax]

How much kph should I have for the vman quest?

[sage vortex]

Is there a guide somewhere for all the repeatable ways to get candy?

[indigo stratus]

Could wiki it, minibosses are one easy way, though

[sage vortex]

So idk if this is recommend or not but I pretty much just put all my characters in W1 except DK who I pushed and started grinding while I upgraded my death note and candied

I think I started with like 30-50k kph? On each and just started going, in W3 now 🤞🤞

[vast adder]

Giant mobs every week

[sage vortex]

I would recommend getting dementia armor before/while and trying to push for better weapons/damage to get that kph up. Do you have jocund?

[indigo stratus]

Only quest that I could find is the w1 daily from picnic, gives 3x 1hr candies for first quest

First, not fiesta

[zenith hare]

update when

new best damage noice

[eager laurel]

yea gotta love it when ur stats starts breaking out

[indigo stratus]

Is base stat bubbles best for dmg, or the scaling base damage? Orrrr what

[eager laurel]

spilling*

[zenith hare]

its total stat, so the bubbles are trash

[eager laurel]

stat bubbles are uniform so every upgrade is +1, and imo better with ur stats% stacking up

[zenith hare]

id need 200k levels in the agi one to get a 2x damage increase

needless to say im not close

[indigo stratus]

😂

[zenith hare]

damage mainly comes from this bubble, alchemy wise

not much other bubbles give "large" bonuses

[indigo stratus]

Ah, and for other classes same type?

[zenith hare]

yeah

[indigo stratus]

What are other big sources for dmg? Mine no way near that

[zenith hare]

not much via alchemy itself

its from literally everything else

name a bonus and the answer is yes

[tight cape]

you can afk equinox fish or is this a visual bug

[zenith hare]

its just visual

you wont get any log in gains

[worldly tapir]

how o i get bag o nuts

[zenith hare]

goldric quest

[tight cape]

ES vs 3D printer for greenstacking?

[haughty aurora]

i just got maestro. what should i have him be doing

[next falcon]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[rugged blade]

is there a priority list somewhere for what meals to ribbon/get best value?

[hasty phoenix]

what gives more xp, cogs or construction?

[indigo stratus]

Exp for what?

[strange flare]

uncomfortably close

[indigo stratus]

Those envelopes

[night oracle]

Why is the W4 worm map so awfully slow to clear 😭

[molten vapor]

which class is the best for skulls?

[next marten]

It felt consistently fastest with DK for me, Siege Breaker would get stuck killing the same enemies over and over

[strange flare]

Yeah I gotta use them

[cold wraith]

fuck snail

[indigo stratus]

Depends on dmg, bubo is good if you don't one shot

[cold wraith]

hes reset from 14 to 10 like 5 times now

[indigo stratus]

TBH, for skulls I just left it running for few hrs

[candid summit]

what does the guide mean by good timing on the mimic for the pet arena?

[strange flare]

Shield going over other pets

[indigo stratus]

When axes are gonna hit

[candid summit]

the guide syas it has to be in front

[strange flare]

It procs for itself too

[indigo stratus]

Refiller, shielder, refiller, mono, ratller, looter works just fine

[molten vapor]

yeah that's what he's doing

[indigo stratus]

The first will usually end up dead, 2x refiller only useful in the beginning

[candid summit]

im doing this

[molten vapor]

you tried with db?

[strange flare]

Use right before axe hits shield then

[molten vapor]

i'm using that too, until you get the next tier or the 5th slot

[indigo stratus]

Do you have burger? Can easily get 5th slot with that

[next marten]

nah, DK was consistently going up so i just let it go for like an hour

i imagine it would be really really good thoug

[candid summit]

still cant do it, probably need more pet power...

[plain harness]

whats your pet power at now

[candid summit]

and some dogshit rng i guess
idk if the mimic blocked a thing

[plain harness]

it'll say block

[candid summit]

i know
i was being dramatic, i only saw it maybe once or twice that fight

[plain harness]

its kinda annoying

[candid summit]

like "idk if that even worked lmao"

[plain harness]

the attacks from the mobs are just tilting

wdym you just spawned and suddenly theres3 axes

[honest belfry]

I did unlock my BB but I neglect a lot of mechanic and I don't know what to begin with lol

[candid summit]

trying to get past round 35

[shadow grotto]

what should i make ninth character

[eternal oracle]

Archer

[ember void]

is working on every skill on all of my characters important? i saw a gear chart that i should have every gear that involves skilling at least till gold gear

[plain harness]

another siege

[shadow grotto]

why

[plain harness]

cause its free stats

[eternal oracle]

Why not

Its a cool class and fun to play

[shadow grotto]

What should i name his

[molten vapor]

siege breaker or elemental sorcerer

[eternal oracle]

Siege

[plain harness]

siege breaker plunderous mobs

[ember void]

but is it that important or can i ignore till w4

[shadow grotto]

no like actua name

[plain harness]

i mean if you got one guy to push through worlds you can just chill on skills because at world 4 youll get everyone to sit in lab for a while

[eternal oracle]

Or arrrrdy

[plain harness]

so might as well do it now unless youre doing a speedrun

[eternal oracle]

Some sort of pirate pun

[molten vapor]

the far you get the more stats you need so start lvling all skills till void tier at least

[molten vapor]

or dementia

[plain harness]

i recommend do your trapping*

[shadow grotto]

but they just rhyme off of "as then something along the lines of ither

[ember void]

yea that makes more sense

[plain harness]

i speedran to world 5 and im just chilling my guys in the lab while some are working on skills/statues

[eternal oracle]

What

Name him jhon cook

[eternal oracle]

LEBBROOOOOOON

[naive summit]

im looking at a pet battle guide, what does it mean when it says, if you have alchemic andflashy unlocked, what are those?

[night oracle]

Should I be working on getting multikill before pushing W4?

And if yes, any tips?

[plain harness]

just get the deathbook down

with all the portal reqs after world 3 youll get the skulls

[strange flare]

what is your max damage

[plain harness]

oh and that

[strange flare]

wth you should be in w5 with that damage

[night oracle]

I got the skull necklace from shop

[strange flare]

that hardly explains it

[shadow grotto]

TF i got 11m max damage on pusher im almost at boss w5

[strange flare]

bros not been neglecting alch

just go beat troll and get stuck in div jail

[night oracle]

Is that bad xD

[strange flare]

i mean you could've been in div jail already but it's a good thing your account is jacked up

[plain harness]

oh sweet sweet doot

[ember void]

how is bro that stacked with these only

[night oracle]

But like I've had my ES running active pushing almost non stop for two days

I am starting to struggle with acc rn though

[plain harness]

oh youll love divinity

[strange flare]

acc is easy if you do clickers, vault, and flurbos

[shadow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/madebyjen-gif-16654215998011501125

Im gonna put 2 of my characters as a jman

[night oracle]

My clickers are not even neglected, they're decent I'd say

[shadow grotto]

send pics

[shadow grotto]

whats alch acc bubbles

[night oracle]

Lmao
Shaccuracy is at 9

[plain harness]

shaccuracy

you need bloaches

[night oracle]

Yeahh

[shadow grotto]

mine was at 15 now its 25

[night oracle]

But my guy is in lab helping me push 😭

[strange flare]

oh I got it without max level lmao

[shadow grotto]

you should have almost ALL people in lab do sample

[night oracle]

My bloach sample is 12 on my blood berserker, so I was doing goldfish instead for something I forgot I needed it for

[shadow grotto]

HUH i had almost 50

[night oracle]

I just took a new sample which was 27, but I also have my maestro fishing rn so I guess that might help a little bit

One thing I need to work on is really my skilling gear, but I'll fix that when I hit W5

[rain dirge]

Whoa, Black Betty, WAMWMJAW
Whoa, Black Betty, WAMWMJAW

Sorry I could help read this entirely... weirdly.

[last linden]

any tips on getting that 2.5m col challenge done?

[worldly gate]

Is this good now?

I just got all elite classes

[next marten]

helllll YEah

[white lintel]

You must really like mages

[worldly gate]

That was my mistake adding 1 more ES lol

But i have 1 archer in the next tab. Doing golden poop

[plain harness]

FAAACK

I SAW THE LAVA HOOP
NOOOOOOOOO

[white lintel]

What

[plain harness]

im losing my mind on flappy bird

[white lintel]

Ohhhh

Yea have fun with that

[plain harness]

still better than the mining one

[haughty root]

13/15 chemical plants

what a slog

[indigo stratus]

You got kitsune active?

[haughty root]

yea lol

[frank dock]

is there a guide on what recipes to unlock for cooking first ?

[twilit flax]

How the hell am I supposed to do the first rift challenge?

The kill 500 enemies in 5 minutes

[night oracle]

Are the cooking station upgrades also incremental or is the speed it gets linear?

[jaunty hemlock]

what happen to cook's stars? i have purple stars and it gones

[hardy ember]

!warrior

is there a command for suggestest talent levels?

[jaunty hemlock]

#bot-commands

[hardy ember]

thanks

[sleek bane]

is that a t20 ribbon on turkey

and egg

[jaunty hemlock]

no its 12

[sleek bane]

ok marginally better

[prisma cave]

im sorry if this is simple and im just missing it, or if this is commonly asked, but i got doot a few days ago, and i have had most of my characters sitting in the lab gaining that sweet double skill exp. but i noticed yesterday one of my gals isnt getting exp for div, only lab where the others are. is this something i haven't set her for or something? or is there a cap on how many can get both skills? (7 in the lab atm including her) should i move her back to mining?

[jaunty hemlock]

@sleek bane

[broken moat]

Soon w4

[sleek bane]

still dk why you put t12 ribbons on those 2 meals but you do you

[jaunty hemlock]

i have no clue with this cooking but not much level up

on my first warrior

[sleek bane]

[jaunty hemlock]

i know i kind of behind those. so now i focus on each of items to get 10m

[twilit flax]

How do I do the first rift challenge man I’m struggling

[hasty phoenix]

Which one gives more xp cogs or construction?

[tight cape]

which one

[twilit flax]

The kill 500 monsters in 5 minutes

[tight cape]

ES

[twilit flax]

The legit first rift challenge

[twilit flax]

Okay!

[tight cape]

also check the wiki

you get rewards every 5 rifts

so if you don't think you can do the next 5 just do something else

[ruby loom]

how do i even get shiny pets

like what level roughly should i even get myt ifrst one

im level 23 and this skill feels so weird and slow

[night oracle]

What can I throw out to save slots? Because I'm really struggling and currently using some of my characters as a stash

[ruby loom]

tape

[night oracle]

But stamp upgrades

[ruby loom]

barrels

[brisk mauve]

Move equipment/trophy to players inventory

[ruby loom]

i mean yeah, like if you HAVE to get inventory space

[night oracle]

Ah

[ruby loom]

what world are you rn

4?

[brisk mauve]

That's storage smh

[night oracle]

At the worms of w4

[brisk mauve]

Inventory and storage isn't same

[ruby loom]

also useless potions

if it isnt used in an item, dump

[night oracle]

I see, I guess I could do that

[ruby loom]

anything that isn't your highest most reliable upgrade token

put the barrels into your furnace

[brisk mauve]

Probably work on getting inventory and storage slots?

They pretty easy to farm from mobs in w1-3

[ruby loom]

use up balloons/pearls

golden food tokens

[indigo stratus]

Don't throw out tape, gstack later

[ruby loom]

hot take, trash the save things for worship

[night oracle]

Are the warped tokens also to be thrown out then?

And the mystery tokens

[gleaming sundial]

They stop appearing after you unlock the save function anyway

def not worth greenstacking

[brisk mauve]

Yeah, you're gonna suffer later because of that

[ruby loom]

i mean yeah but like you get them later

[gleaming sundial]

mystery tokens are useful keep those
for stamps

[ruby loom]

for why

[night oracle]

They are used for stamps??? 😭

[ruby loom]

id say mystery then the hot pink ones, i personally dont use the random ones at all so i trash them

[gleaming sundial]

Only the first 2 tiers so far but yeah

[ruby loom]

didnt know they were used for stamps

[gleaming sundial]

they’re both for +all stat stamps

iirc

[ruby loom]

ahhh

[gleaming sundial]

the stone requirement is low but the cost is steep

[night oracle]

I guess I'll sort everything out and start dumping stuff when I get home

[sly nova]

Bruh i just noticed that I'm 25% lol didn't bother to check the tome

[night oracle]

Also hoping for a chest drop from these stupid worms

[brisk mauve]

They are the main source of cooking exp

[white lintel]

[knotty scarab]

how to solve this pet territory worm catacombs? i see in the youtube looks super easy even with 20-40k pet damage, meanwhile i have 160k+ pet average and still even struggle the initial battle end dead.

is it nerfed? or what i missing here

[sly nova]

Rng

[white lintel]

you likely have looter proccing alchemic and cucking you

[exotic swallow]

maybe time ur defender better

[sly nova]

Ch@nge defender to trasher

Trasher4life

[exotic swallow]

maybe look at autoreview to check what team it offers

[white lintel]

why is auto use off?

[exotic swallow]

bahahahahaha

[knotty scarab]

nah its active and that a picture from youtube

[white lintel]

ah ok

[sly nova]

Finished the pet territory using w1 and 2 pets only

[knotty scarab]

meanwhile me already discover all the pet and still struggles

[sly nova]

Trasher

Change your defender

[exotic swallow]

I did all territories with defender btw

[sly nova]

Sweaty

[exotic swallow]

didnt even take much effort

[sly nova]

[exotic swallow]

just defend start thats it

[ruby loom]

is there a list of things that increase carrying capacity on the wiki?

[white lintel]

Yes but I dont think its exhaustive

[ruby loom]

cause i can think of like pouches, the one stamp, the special talent from w3

im in w6 early tho

[white lintel]

lemme think up some stuff

[ruby loom]

like dungeon stuff

are there cards?

i have the all of the gem ones

[ripe coyote]

yea no.

this is where i clock out

[white lintel]

Carry bags, stamps, both general carry cap from matty bag stamp and mason jar stamp and skill specific, by extention any stamp increases such as from lab or sneaking pristine charm. gem shop carries carry cap items. Shine: by extention the Chaotic Chizoar card. star talent. rucksack prayer. take off zerg rushogen. three star signs give carry cap, so star sign doubler and also the thing from sereph that increases star signs with summoning level

bribe, and guild bonus

and vman talent

[exotic swallow]

too many words

[knotty scarab]

nice, solved

[sly nova]

Ain't no way.. that's good

[white lintel]

womp womp

[sly nova]

Now use that comp for all other territory

[exotic swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1246596618321526837/1351650335789154365/attachment.gif

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/mad-gif-17291530843075000352

[ruby loom]

ty

is tyhere any alchemy that increases it

[hasty phoenix]

Which one gives more xp cogs or construction?

[mint rivet]

Greetings everyone

👋🏿

woah another one

[sleek bane]

dont throw out tape wtf

[lost garden]

this may be stupid but how do i print? theres nothing in my star tab 2

[barren ruin]

Do the world 3 quest

[ruby loom]

ik it is needed but it's just like 20k of it

[fossil citrus]

Bredding guide to push teritory?

[surreal spear]

I wish I had 36000 dumplings irl

[mint rivet]

same

[keen olive]

If I have 2 shinies of same kind, do the bonuses level up twice as fast?

[exotic swallow]

Rot

[mental path]

what about 1 very large dumple

[mint rivet]

the bonus lvls up faster, idk if 2x, and sweet spot is 3-4x shinies of each type

[thorny zinc]

so i got the shiny squirrel but i didnt got the star signs. do i need to wait to level him up first?

[mint rivet]

u can lvl him up rn

[thorny zinc]

wdym

[elder sigil]

What is the fastest way to farm power statues

[odd obsidian]

maybe the bonus will appear after a cloud save? odd stuff happens with shiny pets

[thorny zinc]

yeah true i didnt tried that

yeah it worked thx

[odd obsidian]

when in doubt, cloudsave

[hardy forge]

oh god why the 8 odd damage quest resets after compleation

i finally got 9 in a row and one even appears then it resets

[odd obsidian]

go do a worship td and punch the mobs yourself

you only do 1 damage. how odd

[hardy forge]

thank you so much

i considered about dungeon but i already upgraded a bit

oh i didnt pick up the frog drop F*

it disappears outside of the screen

[remote steppe]

Why are only some lengths golden?

[mint rivet]

bcs of bubo talent

[white lintel]

Soup*

[remote steppe]

Honestly no idea what that is

[idle breach]

its souped up lab gem purchase

[elder sigil]

ty

[remote steppe]

OH right

[white lintel]

Soup :)

[mint rivet]

oh alr

[merry rover]

can soneone give me some tips on levelling grimoirr

its soooooo slow

[heavy harbor]

Question: do you need to equip Big Game Hunter before the giant appears, or can you wait until there's a giant on the screen with you and then swap it in?

[neat valve]

is buying jewls from the gem shop worth?

[barren ruin]

It says on kill , so you could probably wait . But the better option is to get a sheepie companion which makes all active bubbles passive.

[merry rover]

nahhh

unless you are a whale, its prolly a better decision to save the gems

[neat valve]

ok, i have about 800, what should i go for?

[turbid stump]

I genuinely concerned how without any gear i have more dr than with full armor

[merry rover]

bleach couldron, or crystal 3d printer if you dont have that

[odd obsidian]

cant wait for the jewel i want in 250 days!

[merry rover]

i mean

its you playing the game its your wish what you want to buy

but i just gave a suggestion

[odd obsidian]

focus on actual upgrades before buying jewels yes

[merry rover]

well yeah

[odd obsidian]

but there is a point where i'm not waiting until november to get the jewel i want

[merry rover]

u make the decision

what jewel is it btw

tell me the bonus too

[mint rivet]

still not 90% potency...

[odd obsidian]

oh its september. anyway i want the emerald rhinestone to complete my collection

egg incubation time

[agile nimbus]

how to get rid of unwanted pets in breeding?

[mint rivet]

my vman lvl just went from 89 to 100

[turbid stump]

3 tab in breding, there button "trash" in left bottom corner

[odd obsidian]

the forgotten statue critters..

[turbid stump]

Look out dont trash out necesary pets

[mint rivet]

wdym

[odd obsidian]

joking on the fact you got a mining statue from trapping

because of it being a level up gift

[agile nimbus]

but how to get more pet slot in fights?

[turbid stump]

Pet arena

Every first milestone of row (if i recall right)

[rustic oriole]

My next recipe takes 12 days Nani

[turbid stump]

Lvl new recipe spd a bit

[rustic oriole]

I have to actually look at breeding so I can forage correctly

[mint rivet]

oh I forgot, I will unlock new spice battle after I get rq past skydoggies

[rustic oriole]

I currently have mafiosos in every slot because yeh

[mint rivet]

check pins

[rustic oriole]

Im laying in bed now was ganna check tomorrow once I have eggs up

[turbid stump]

Its not very good combo yk

[mint rivet]

its a horrible combo

cancerous

[sly nova]

8 more lvl to get godshard skull

[mint rivet]

I still did not focus exp...

I need like 20 more lvls on most

[rustic oriole]

Bro I could’ve saved my self so much pain ffs

[mint rivet]

average idleon player

[rustic oriole]

Oh I know. I was just spamming mafiosos because every character was giving me pet breeding hours

[sly nova]

Tedious exp grind for skull and trap.. lvl 120

[rustic oriole]

It doesn’t say that in game 😦

[mint rivet]

oh wait skull needed lvl 120?

[mint rivet]

auto-refine is self explanatory

[sly nova]

Yes

[mint rivet]

my vman can equip godshard

[sly nova]

[turbid stump]

Check out the pins when will have time, there good spices for different stages of the game

[odd obsidian]

soon.....

[rustic oriole]

Well since it didn’t work until a minute later I assumed it didn’t work

[mint rivet]

I was that bad too, and I upgraded stamp and w4 soul vial..itgot a lot faster

[rustic oriole]

Ok my 12 days doesn’t feel so long

[mint rivet]

why did i read this as "sheetium"...

[rustic oriole]

Wait even the bucket goes to billions

Oh no

[sly nova]

253 days 😹

[mint rivet]

trillions*

[sly nova]

How's your cooking speed?

That's wild 😭

[mint rivet]

recipe speed scales with cooking speed, no?

[sly nova]

Y

Better spices = better chance when the poll of meals are the same

Now i need my nyonbuger

[mint rivet]

same

[sly nova]

can't even reach to the spices man

[mint rivet]

gonna get it today or in 24hrs

[sly nova]

What's your comp for that territory?

[mint rivet]

i did not unlock it

[sly nova]

I can't even hit 1.5

Wht 😭

[mint rivet]

pushing dawgs rn

I believe itis map after skydawgs that unlocks the battle

[sly nova]

I can't even hit 1.5m speed 😭

[agile nimbus]

has anyone even increased its max lvl?

[sly nova]

Ceramic?

Yes

[mint rivet]

ceramics are before

[sly nova]

Not enough man 😔

[agile nimbus]

u cant stack axes right??

[sly nova]

Owhh shet forgor it's royal eggs

[mint rivet]

gilded+atom reduction exists

and each day, if you have upgrade, a random stamp levels

[agile nimbus]

huh

[sly nova]

Tbh royal eggs territory suk .. cuz of that little healer 😭😭

[agile nimbus]

alr

[mint rivet]

crazy how I can accidentaly eclipse while pushing

[sly nova]

No stamp left behind

[mint rivet]

works like NBLB< its called NSLB

[sly nova]

Welp what can we say... Cuz of that needs of 9 characters to push

[valid pollen]

What does this actually mean?

[mint rivet]

one source is summoning

[mint rivet]

idk

and its amazing

[valid pollen]

Thanks

[mint rivet]

np, make sureto max it

oh I hit 150, maybe I can max it out

[sly nova]

Endless?

[valid pollen]

How do u get those bonuses from summoning?

[sly nova]

What endless you're on beans?

[mint rivet]

endless fights

[mint rivet]

58, no gambit unlocked

[sly nova]

God dam.

I'm bugged... The health bug

[mint rivet]

huh

[valid pollen]

Like actually going forevere or is that the name of a mechanic?

[wheat cove]

1, does this apply to ALL kitchens? 2. does this add a 1.50X speed, or alredy multiplies my total?

[mint rivet]

applies to all, its a multiplier

[wheat cove]

OH YES.

[mint rivet]

separate from other ones

[mint rivet]

and even better, BONUS is linear, no diminising returns

[sly nova]

When i started the match it just deducted my health idk why tho

[wheat cove]

NICEEEE

[mint rivet]

try again

[sly nova]

Nope

And i ran oout of health

[mint rivet]

you're the type of guy to give up

[sly nova]

Brother i didn't even start it yet then it deducted my health instantly

[mint rivet]

man who voted for coins

[sly nova]

I vote for cons

[mint rivet]

YES!!

time for some slab grind

[sly nova]

Bad rng tbh to get that blue fish

[mint rivet]

why

F you yondergreen

[wheat cove]

pretty easy.

why is quenchie pet in common? 15% drop rate is OP XDDDDD

[mint rivet]

this dude can wait until I resample

i understand why this tree is hated

[mint rivet]

its not OP

[lethal burrow]

how do i use the trapper drone

[mint rivet]

click on it to use it

[thorny zinc]

all green bubbles done

[restive dock]

I have just gotten w5, should I go in Equinox ? Found the miror 3 mins ago

[thorny zinc]

go see the challenges

but i doubt you can do much

[restive dock]

does it limit the time I can go there ?

[thorny zinc]

nope

it doesnt even consume the mirror

[restive dock]

so it just like the map for the fishing pot in w2

[thorny zinc]

yes

it is finally done

[turbid stump]

1001😭

Its not even go change that

[mint rivet]

get some w8 ones aswell

[thorny zinc]

[thorny zinc]

fine another 1000

[turbid stump]

No, 99

Hmmm, 167m print for hourly clicks

If one slot

Need more eff for that

[cursive galleon]

u have to exactly afk 4 hours at one point with the snouts npc

[mint rivet]

snouts npc? which one is that? also not a second less or more? does candy count?

[turbid stump]

plus minus 2mins actually

[cursive galleon]

no candy i think, and its the npc that hangs by the ridge at moustache area w3

he askes you for salts to cushion his fall or smth

[mint rivet]

i alr cushioned his fall with salts

[turbid stump]

I think you mistake that with some other npc

[cursive galleon]

did i? i think his name is snouts right?

he asks for red salt then explosive, kills you, etc

u just have to afk at the area for 4 hours +- 2 mins like vivaldi said

[mint rivet]

candy counts or no

[turbid stump]

Im mean part about 4h, dont remember such, mb just bad menory idk

[mint rivet]

u are not sure

idk if wiki contains that info

[oak lynx]

You then need to afk for 9 hours and 33 mins at snow flakes

[cursive galleon]

i am not sure yup i havent done it myself

[cursive galleon]

wtf

[turbid stump]

As far as i recall that tree has afk hours tasks

[cursive galleon]

honestly that npc is just annoying as is man

[mint rivet]

why is w3 just a bunch of annoying npcs

[pseudo pumice]

What is that Mole bonus from? i can't find anything online

[mint rivet]

so far every single one was annoying

[turbid stump]

And candy dont work cuz of uneven hours need, likr 4h 23m and such

[mint rivet]

pet

[cursive galleon]

chill bill making me destroy 18 crystals while i can just one shot the boss :/

[pseudo pumice]

Ahhh thank you

[cursive galleon]

and i have to take 0 dmg like for what

[mint rivet]

and do not touch the hitbox of things that can dmg those with low def

[cursive galleon]

'odd number' quest was just dumb, u just go worship

[mint rivet]

i am immune to those but just touching em threw the quest

[cursive galleon]

yeah its just really annoying

[mint rivet]

worth it for the +2 slab

[ruby loom]

how much does base damage actually effect things at this point in the game

[cursive galleon]

i just stopped doing quests all together with how pointless most were unless stamps are involved

[turbid stump]

@cursive galleon its all snouts quests

[mint rivet]

what point

[oak lynx]

Then you need to afk for 21 hours and 51 minutes at bop boxes (frozen meat guy map ) @mint rivet

[cursive galleon]

still a huge amount ngl

[mint rivet]

yeah hell nah

I got w6 to push

[cursive galleon]

say u have a 500% dmg multiplier in total, and base dmg of 1 = 5dmg
+1 base dmg -> 10dmg

[mint rivet]

only base dmg that affects me is the one from dmg pots

[cursive galleon]

increasing base dmg will deprecate over time with higher digits but still really good

[cursive galleon]

yeye his quest is easy, its the tree guy's quest making u afk with snouts for 4 hours :/

[mint rivet]

i stopped at giant mob

[odd obsidian]

yeah this pic is pretty old lol

[turbid stump]

Ok i understand what you mean now

[cursive galleon]

giant mob u can just do it after weekly reset for giant chance

[odd obsidian]

the recipe takes like 5 hours now, maybe? i havent checked

dont sleep on your spice stamps

[mint rivet]

and u have to be on time, set a timer

[mint rivet]

yeah rn its 1/a few tens of K, at weekly its closer to 1/30

[cursive galleon]

BRUH.

[turbid stump]

I havent even get to that timer quest lol

[cursive galleon]

yeah im not doing any of that nonsense

[thorny zinc]

i hear neglecting

[cursive galleon]

unless i have nothing to do, im going back to monument

[turbid stump]

Funny hearing it from you😀

[thorny zinc]

im cooking idk what are you talking about

[stuck fable]

10k stamp when

[turbid stump]

Bruh fr

[stuck fable]

Fr

[thorny zinc]

bruh fr

my main prob for stamps is capacity

i need to craft tab 5 bags

[lethal burrow]

it didnt work

[cursive galleon]

aint no way

my game crashes when i start cranium cooking

rip 30000 seconds

500 mins of afk progress into the drain

[stuck fable]

it already gave the seconds, you just dont get the nice popup

[thorny zinc]

you dont have online bubo right?

[cursive galleon]

hm? wdym, along with what shadow said

like i killed 10 mobs and i white screened

[stuck fable]

When you cc it doesnt give it to you in bulk, every kill progresses it

oh 10 mobs -> crash rip

[cursive galleon]

yup

[stuck fable]

if you leave map your alch progress stays, but the popup for +x sec just becomes like 0 or smth

[cursive galleon]

i wna die and i accidentally clicked siphon on my ES while sampling

time to leave beastmaster to hibernate for his charges

[turbid stump]

Online bubo?

[thorny zinc]

200 tentacle

[cursive galleon]

wdym online bubo actually yeah

[thorny zinc]

can you do cc like properly?

[turbid stump]

Weird way to tell it but ok lol

No tentacle 200 is just not ascended

[thorny zinc]

3/4 maxed

[cursive galleon]

idk what u mean by properly, but i am getting 30k sec per run

[thorny zinc]

so no

whats your tentacle level rn?

[median olive]

Is there an easier way to do evergreen quest with the 75 coins

[cursive galleon]

tentacle..?

[thorny zinc]

you need a minimum of 200 to this talent

[cursive galleon]

ah that thing, its at 170 sadly

i dont have any other means of increasing talent level atm

[thorny zinc]

you have rift slug?

[cursive galleon]

dont have atom collider and im printing like 400k oak log no boost

[thorny zinc]

damn

[cursive galleon]

need ot progress more, and also yeah

[thorny zinc]

then you will prob have bubo fixed soon

with rift slug is easy to get to 200

try maxing the salt lick upgrade

[oak lynx]

Just filter the pens from the penguin card

[cursive galleon]

ES is at lvl 370 so not bad on the bonus, atom collider alrdy mentioned

sailing im still like lvl 26, im ramping up now but its taking its time

[idle breach]

whats the best char to splice on? i imagine either es or bb

[cursive galleon]

equinox im locked out since the two dreams for more upgrades are wave 50 on first 5/6 TD and max out 5 flurbo stat upgrade

flurbo upgrade is just a pain since i have to get lucky and spam killroy's shop for the dice

TD i can do eventually with beastmaster getting enough pts to do a defence or two

[cursive galleon]

anyone with the highest kill per h afk

[idle breach]

-___- well yea

i want to use upgrade stones on whoever ill be splicing on because its the w4 one so id rather get it right

[thorny zinc]

with salt lick maxed you should be able to have 200

[cursive galleon]

i mean splicing is great but i dont think it should be a focus point for you right now if ur at w4

you'd rather send your main guy to clear (DK/ES/BC active or afk BB), i started splicing around early w6

[cursive galleon]

9/10, the last upgrade is a wee bit expensive

[idle breach]

im asking here because its a w4 feature not because i am w4 =P

[cursive galleon]

ohh i mean if ur w6 then yeah, but wouldnt u use w5 stones?

[thorny zinc]

i use bb

sorry i didnt saw the question

do splicing with the character that has highest k/h

[idle breach]

yeah i just dont know which one es or bb

[thorny zinc]

es has low k/h

[cursive galleon]

just compared afk rate no? go gmush and see

[thorny zinc]

use bb

[idle breach]

i do think bb is the better choice

awesomesauce

[cursive galleon]

:D

half way there

[indigo stratus]

wahts best for skull on rift? dk es db bubo sb?????

[mint rivet]

can't help you then

[mint rivet]

make sure to chow on BB

[gritty tinsel]

Which pets should i use for 4 peta 115 round

[barren ruin]

rattler/peapod looter refiller and tank in this order

[gritty tinsel]

Thanks

Tank you mean burger or shield

[oak lynx]

First opal swap

[barren ruin]

Burger

[gritty tinsel]

Thank youu

[thorny zinc]

you already do opals swap?

[idle breach]

am i reaching 125 with this setup or nawt

[neat valve]

where is the space bro :[

[hard thistle]

Should have done it when you have at least 60 opals

[thorny zinc]

yeah thats why i asked too

i only have 41 opals so far

[slow warren]

Whats a good team to beat wave 125 in the arena with only 4 pets?

I need it for the equinox dream

[idle breach]

you need to get your 5th slot first lol

oh wait im an idiot DISREGARD WHAT I SAID

[slow warren]

Top left maybe

[hard thistle]

I Got 81

[thorny zinc]

pass me some opals bro

[slow warren]

I have access to all pets so go wild

[idle breach]

whats a good team to beat wave 125 with 5 pets =D

[slow warren]

Lemme get my old screenshot

[idle breach]

wahoo

[idle breach]

woah no monolith

[hard thistle]

You don't need mono

Only for spice battles

[thorny zinc]

yep

[idle breach]

oki ill try it after my current arena battle finishes

[slow warren]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1286079196623536293/1338563378351837336/IMG_8274.png?ex=67e3918a&is=67e2400a&hm=0e7dc6d99587045ab43b197355ae955bbed54e09abc1a2822ef284c0d685ba24&

[idle breach]

is that sandy pot middle

[slow warren]

This is what i used

[slow warren]

Yeah looter is a goated pet ability in long runs

[idle breach]

alright ill try top one first since i dont have all pets from this one

[slow warren]

Did anyone do this one and still remember the comp?

[barren ruin]

rattler/peapod looter refiller and tank in this order

[slow warren]

Alright, i‘ll give it a try!

Thanks

[thorny zinc]

ez

[sinful grove]

Do the gmush kills to unlock vman have to be done by the beginner himself?

[thorny zinc]

yes you need to do them with maestro

[sinful grove]

What's the best way to do that?

[thorny zinc]

candy or afk i guess

[thorny zinc]

bro what

[sinful grove]

Only 753 hours 🥳

[thorny zinc]

are you on skilling preset or smth?

[hard thistle]

You don't even have level 150 on maestro...

[hard thistle]

How did you unlock the quest....

[thorny zinc]

...

[sinful grove]

I'm sure that by the time he kills 12m gmush he'll be level 150

[thorny zinc]

first of all dont go for them now

and dont hybrid builds

do 1 preset for skilling and 1 for combat

[sinful grove]

I am

[thorny zinc]

dont*

[barren ruin]

You are not

[hard thistle]

Level Skillage Damage to max and do some skilling...

[sinful grove]

I'm not doing hybrid builds

[thorny zinc]

cap

one sec

combat build

[sinful grove]

I can't speed up construction more than it already is

[thorny zinc]

focus on damage talents first

[barren ruin]

And use the 229 points

[nimble atlas]

is it okay if I don't have the defence needed to take 0 damage as long as my survivability is at 100%?

[thorny zinc]

and skilling build

[slow warren]

Team is not working ong

[barren ruin]

Did you use burger?

[hard thistle]

Why Maestro Transfusion level zero?

[thorny zinc]

i dont always you use it

[slow warren]

No i used the team u said

[sinful grove]

My maestro is having a hard time with survivability

[barren ruin]

By tank i meant burger

[slow warren]

Ah

I thought you meant defender

Wont burger be even worse

Ig i‘ll try it out tho

Any other misunderstandings?

[zenith hare]

that won't work

[slow warren]

Thats what im thinking

The dps of the later stages will just kill me

[zenith hare]

rattler, looter, refiller, borger. preferably peapod rather then rattler but it MAY work

peapod is more dps as more looter procs, just gotta hope nowadays rattler with 3x vault damage can work

[slow warren]

Aight

[thorny zinc]

hi bean

[zenith hare]

@slow warren also turn borger off of auto

[slow warren]

Damn why?

[zenith hare]

cause borger just wastes refiller procs

[slow warren]

Ok

[zenith hare]

oh wow 2 basic attack or a looter proc, or an extra rattler

[hard thistle]

This game is weird, How does he have 50m damage with that stats?

[slow warren]

Might have a good run rn

Already at 90

[sinful grove]

My maestro has more accuracy than any other class I got rn but his survivability is crap

[slow warren]

100

110

[turbid stump]

Total dmg bonuses

Thats my dmg for example

[slow warren]

120

Ayyyy 125

Ty @barren ruin it worked

Ig i just had bad rng when i tried it before

[sinful grove]

Does Maestro always have garbage kph ?

[slow warren]

Not once you unlock vman

But yeah maestro itself is not too good in that aspect

[compact pagoda]

only this much

thought more

thats 12 b right

[turbid stump]

Skill preset with no gear

[slow warren]

From literally everything else

[signal ingot]

Relative to the rest yes

[turbid stump]

Idk bad at big numbers

[compact pagoda]

where fighting presset with gear

[slow warren]

You‘ll see some crazy dmg numbers on your 10th character when you are already w6 when you make it

[slow warren]

Even with stats in the doubke digits

[compact pagoda]

oh nice

[signal ingot]

Im so curious what my 11th character would look like from creation

[slow warren]

Damn it keeps going, already round 160

[compact pagoda]

i should get my mage dmg up

[slow warren]

So true

[compact pagoda]

why only 6k defence

[turbid stump]

I dont need def rn

[compact pagoda]

i see

[turbid stump]

Havent lvled fmj normally yet

Need better prints

[compact pagoda]

i forgot about fmj

[signal ingot]

People in endgame gonna have beginners with more damage then 90% of players have on their best

[compact pagoda]

anyway what's the material in damage trione ( mage class)

[signal ingot]

?

[turbid stump]

Damage truone?

[compact pagoda]

brb

[turbid stump]

You mean bubbles that give dmg?

One em need salt but idk which one

[slow warren]

Depending on where you define endgame to start at, even more

[turbid stump]

Is it realistically to get billion of nullo salts in a year?