midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[vestal spire]

Whts that

[mint rivet]

I didn't, only a few I bought

[mint rivet]

Wisdom

[vestal spire]

How u do it

[mint rivet]

by being wise

[vestal spire]

No fr

[zealous onyx]

if my memory is still okay i think w3 gives that gfood

[thorny zinc]

he is fr

[keen parcel]

Ooh we got a wise guy over here

[vestal spire]

Bro

[mint rivet]

How did u know

[vestal spire]

Bro how u do it

[mint rivet]

i told u alr

[thorny zinc]

you need to be wise he alr told you

[keen parcel]

Where might it be?

Who knows

[thorny zinc]

maybe w7

[mint rivet]

100 bosses time

[vestal spire]

Huh

[thorny zinc]

lava farming godshard with copper pick is so cursed

[mint rivet]

just go well inside that hole and u'll see

[thorny zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[icy mantle]

damn codes got new drip?

[dense pine]

no, been there for like 3 weeks now

[thorny zinc]

3 weeks old arl

[mint rivet]

this update made it cool

[vestal spire]

Oh w5?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[icy mantle]

theres no way

[thorny zinc]

yes there is

[vestal spire]

I need 100 hours to reach w5

[icy mantle]

it wasnt like this yesterday howtf

[thorny zinc]

its old af

[dense pine]

was

[thorny zinc]

it was you are just blind

[sturdy totem]

Nah it didn't update for everyone at the same time

Some people were still stuck on the old one until today's update

bcz spaghetti code moment

[thorny zinc]

[mint rivet]

Lava will stretch the hole so much it'll become massive, to the point where its bigger than a whole world

[keen parcel]

True

[mint rivet]

I think its alr got more than half a world of content

[thorny zinc]

bro what

[dense pine]

uhh id say a full worlds worth

[mint rivet]

what are u confused about

[thorny zinc]

w7 is the hole then

[mint rivet]

nah, 16 caverns is not enough

[thorny zinc]

100+ and its fine

[mint rivet]

look at w3 , most content packed world

[full beacon]

DK gigafrogs for power statues?

[mint rivet]

and I believe w2 is least packed

[sturdy totem]

People are pushing W6 to get to world 7 but Lava will bamboozle them by making the world 7 portal be accessible at cavern 21

[dense pine]

look at w5, besides hole what content is there besides some mobs, a boss and 3 afk skills?

or w6

[sturdy totem]

and the world 6 boss is just the massive troll with a samurai costume

[mint rivet]

no other content

w6 will get the gimmick stuff too

[thorny zinc]

we dont know yet

[dense pine]

yea

[mint rivet]

w1 clicker, w2 clicker, w3 equinox, w4 rift, 5 hole, w6..soon

[icy mantle]

is lava giving out smth in the st ream

[full beacon]

or is it just not even worth it when I first got that quest

[zealous onyx]

gem envelopes

[sturdy totem]

of course I do lava told me privately and to no one else

[full beacon]

20k sounds a lot

[icy mantle]

other than that

[thorny zinc]

maybe is grumblo

[mint rivet]

I alr got triple digit gem number from stream

[zealous onyx]

i dont think there are other stuff atm

[warm grove]

Huge gem drops already

[icy mantle]

im too l azy broooooo anyways i should get them probably gems is gems

[sturdy totem]

grumblo is in cavern 53

[mint rivet]

from envelopes?

[warm grove]

yeah

[rugged kiln]

Whats the recommended level for my guys to leave lab jail, I seen someone say that everybody having 2100 combined levels was the recommended level

[icy mantle]

how many envelopes was the limit

[mint rivet]

do i have to be in w1 town to get gems?

or is it server wide

[dense pine]

w1 town

[icy mantle]

probably w1 town

[warm grove]

gotta be in W1 in the right servers

[torpid acorn]

Nonono thats lab 2100 a good lab is lab 75 where everyone has lvl 75

[thorny zinc]

lava just banned someone💀

[mint rivet]

on stream?

[torpid acorn]

But you dont need to do that IMMEDIATELY tbh

[icy mantle]

bro dont pet reset im begging ill get a free spin tomorrow

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[mint rivet]

what did that dude do

[full beacon]

I think it's serverwide tbh, when I come back to w1 I usually get the envelopes

[icy mantle]

which server should i be in to get the gems

[mint rivet]

i was getting one tomorrow too, and he reset and I am glad he did

[thorny zinc]

he said where it is for everyone and he lost the minigame

[mint rivet]

carrot, ballon, etc

[mint rivet]

what

[icy mantle]

i really hate my self cuz i spend all my crystal gems on deluxe treat cuz i am fking dumb

dumbest i've ever could be

[thorny zinc]

maybe not banned but he said he will write that guy down

[mint rivet]

I don't understand what he did

[icy mantle]

what could you possibly do to get b anned from idleon 😭

[full beacon]

maybe banned from twitch ch, not game

[warm grove]

he gets negative luck for everything from now on

[mint rivet]

#server-rules

[thorny zinc]

he told everyone where is lava

and he lost the minigame

[warm grove]

during a minigame with stakes for drops

[thorny zinc]

yeah

funny guy

[mint rivet]

oh the hide and seek game?

[thorny zinc]

no minigame thing

[warm grove]

no, just the mining minigame

[stiff urchin]

Anyone have tips for free DK that has done his job on mining?

[mint rivet]

damn another pet reset?

2 a stream..must be nice

[warm grove]

I missed one???

[mint rivet]

wdym free DK

[rugged kiln]

Okay I was about to say 2100 seemed like a lot lol

[mint rivet]

I alr got a pet reset this stream from lava

[thorny zinc]

yeah

i got moltie..

[warm grove]

I've only gotten one from all streams so far

[thorny zinc]

i got 2 last stream

[stiff urchin]

I mean like my DK is so free that i dont know where should i use him🤔

[thorny zinc]

and jocund from first one

[mint rivet]

free.regarding time?

[stiff urchin]

Yes

[icy mantle]

already lost mining

[thorny zinc]

bro doesnt have a job

[robust inlet]

5b!

[mint rivet]

what world did u reach?

[stiff urchin]

6

But still early

[mint rivet]

did u get goharut?

[thorny zinc]

😭

[stiff urchin]

But i need my other character to reach last portal

[stiff urchin]

Yes

[robust inlet]

what does a pet reset do

[mint rivet]

so you are pushing w6 to the end?

[thorny zinc]

resets your free pet roll

[mint rivet]

gives you another free pet attempt

[robust inlet]

ohhh

[mint rivet]

lab slave

[stiff urchin]

Yes, now he off 50 level from my other character

[mint rivet]

that is what DK will do

[stiff urchin]

Ahh yessd

[mint rivet]

I hope u did ur divinity and lab grind for now

[cursive galleon]

👀

[thorny zinc]

this game is only about slavery

[mint rivet]

Also do you have doot?

[stiff urchin]

His level on divinity also in end tbh

[stiff urchin]

Dootless

[mint rivet]

pocket divinity?

[cursive galleon]

free achievement woop

[stiff urchin]

Didnt open yet

[mint rivet]

also got 4 more

[mint rivet]

n1 goal, get that

[stiff urchin]

So my DK just farming in cave?

Noted

[mint rivet]

motherlode, yes

[thorny zinc]

lava more gems please

[icy mantle]

hi

[icy mantle]

oh the fomo shop rotated?

[molten vapor]

which map is good for my stats?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[mint rivet]

citringes

[icy mantle]

lemme see what stuff in there

[thorny zinc]

gmush

[thorny zinc]

yea citringes

[mint rivet]

this is an AMAZING shop

10/10

[icy mantle]

tf is this bruh

[thorny zinc]

ew

[mint rivet]

oh nahhh

yk what this means

[molten vapor]

i can't one shot them with the posion yet

[icy mantle]

yeah ppl will buy it only for green crystal

[mint rivet]

extremely expensive packs will come with rare pets, like doot, golem, samurai

[thorny zinc]

my db got a new pendant

[mint rivet]

still sit there

[thorny zinc]

for storage space🤓

[icy mantle]

dammm hyper multikill obol great

[mint rivet]

do u not see the perma bonus?

[keen parcel]

Ever since green crystals i havent bought anything

[tough tangle]

wondering how much damage should you be doing in W4

[icy mantle]

oh right whatever

[mint rivet]

yeah its whatever

[icy mantle]

PLEASE BRO PLEASE ONE WITH DOOT ILL BUY IT INSTANTLY IM BEGGING

[thorny zinc]

permanent bonuses we

[mint rivet]

average 🐳

[icy mantle]

im not whale bru 20 dollars is like my 1-1.5 months of pocket money but doot is worth it for sure

[warm grove]

Finally something to spend the gems on, i've been grinding gems for so long and didn't know what to get

[mint rivet]

doot is not gonna be 2 digit price

[thorny zinc]

lava should drop doots

[icy mantle]

u cant be real

[stiff urchin]

Lmao

[keen parcel]

I will refrain feom speaking my mind but he wont

[thorny zinc]

4 doots per drop

[mint rivet]

if there was a pack with doot, I am real

[icy mantle]

i aint p aying more than 20 for a bundle bro

[thorny zinc]

cap

[warm grove]

honestly I might buy half of these limited specials ngl

[mint rivet]

1. cap
2. then u ain't getting doot pack

[icy mantle]

how is this cap

[thorny zinc]

we know its cap

you are a whale

[icy mantle]

i literally dont have the time bundle and other 20+ ones and im also missing a lot of 20 ones

[mint rivet]

I could get 7k+ gems rn with colo tickets

[mint rivet]

damn neglecter

[thorny zinc]

yapping we know its fake

[icy mantle]

i wish it was fake bro

[keen parcel]

There wont be 1 then people wont buy green gems anymore

[tough tangle]

wondering how much damage should you be doing in W4

[thorny zinc]

i got bloomie today

[mint rivet]

just theoretical

[mint rivet]

congrats

[icy mantle]

if ur not rushing at all probably like 50 billion or more

actually a lot more

[thorny zinc]

fake

[tough tangle]

...

[robust inlet]

so real

[quaint wing]

50 billion? i got to world 4 yesterday and im only hitting 30-50 million 💀

[mint rivet]

rushers, about 10-50m. Non rushers, 10b+

[icy mantle]

we are talking zui kind of not rushing

[thorny zinc]

source: trust me bro

[robust inlet]

how do we get pet resets?

[icy mantle]

.

[robust inlet]

i beat w4 w like 8m

[mint rivet]

ik some1 who has billions in w3

[robust inlet]

u can beat it with 1m

[icy mantle]

he would get at least 200 bil damage at w4

[thorny zinc]

zui?

[robust inlet]

that was b4 vault tho

[quick bane]

Is death bringer pack worth it?

[thorny zinc]

thats an exception

[icy mantle]

do u have the other S tier bundles

[thorny zinc]

yeah its good for dr too

[mint rivet]

yes it is an S tier pack

[quick bane]

Just auto loot

[tough tangle]

with abilities or without abilities should i be doing billions

[mint rivet]

whjat bundles do u consider S tier, besides autoloot?

[keen parcel]

Best thing to buy

[mint rivet]

do you plan to spend more than just the DB pack?

[thorny zinc]

summer pack

[icy mantle]

i suggest buy the serenity pack maybe its not the name it gives u daily stamp lvl, bubble, meal idk

[quick bane]

Nope

[mint rivet]

alr, do NOT buy the DB pack

[quaint wing]

does equinox charge only increase while actively there?

[mint rivet]

buy the island pack, DR multi

[quick bane]

Oh

[mint rivet]

2nd best pack in the game

[thorny zinc]

lava will add construction speed to arcade shop

[icy mantle]

how tf is it second best pack how many drop rate does it even giv e

[mint rivet]

he said it rn?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[mint rivet]

its a dr multi, island pack

[long python]

imagine buying packs

[icy mantle]

how many dr multi

[mint rivet]

idk, check

[thorny zinc]

reading

[keen parcel]

Anyone need help with w2 dungeon i am planning to do it for cards anyways

[mint rivet]

Db pack gives +200% dr, before multies

the dr multi is better than 200% dr

[warm grove]

anybody who has bought the limited special guys, do they stack? do I get multiple slugs and penguins?

[icy mantle]

1.20x drop rate multi how good is that i dont have good math

i have 12x DR how much would i get if i buy that

[mint rivet]

its EXTREMELY good

[icy mantle]

pls do the math 😭

[mint rivet]

with 50x dr, that dr multi would give you 10x more, reaching 60x

[keen parcel]

12x becomes 14.4x

[icy mantle]

that is crazy

[keen parcel]

Thats basicly 1.2x

[mint rivet]

the more u have the more u get

[mint rivet]

2.2?

[icy mantle]

id prefer the deathbringer pack tho ngl cool bundle ill save money for it

[mint rivet]

oh u meant the multi

[mint rivet]

well ur wrong there

[warm grove]

Guys I can confirm they stack

[icy mantle]

can you get DR multi from any other sources other than that?

[acoustic horizon]

how do i get the giant monster star talent?

[long python]

the only things packs do is make the game take marginally less time to get the point you have nothing left to do

[icy mantle]

ik but rlly dont care

[mint rivet]

3 sources in the gamae: pristine charm, pack, SB

[keen parcel]

I can badicly get 30x droprate dont got thw pack if i where to get it i would have 36x

[mint rivet]

you do you 🐳

[icy mantle]

oh you can get dr multi from sb?

[icy mantle]

bro ucannot be real 😭

[robust inlet]

what gear upgrades should i go for next?

[white lintel]

It’s a prayer not a star talent

[mint rivet]

the talent literally says

[white lintel]

2nd Opal ring

Weapon

[mint rivet]

emperor ring

[keen parcel]

Another opal ring

[robust inlet]

1 more hh 🙏

i need like 2k flurbos thats nothing

[icy mantle]

i dont even have a single opal ring cuz wasted shi ton of flurbos to get megacrit i still didnt got it tho

[white lintel]

When your refinery stacks up, troll armor

[keen parcel]

Is 1 in 1H

[mint rivet]

I got 2 opal rings on my account

[keen parcel]

I might host

[mint rivet]

please do so

34m HH

[keen parcel]

Last time i did HH i had 2 full partys and a few that stayed for more

[robust inlet]

ooh i can get my 2nd opal today 🔥

if i get lucky i could get a 3rd

savin up for this rn

[icy mantle]

anything actually worth to buy here with f2p gems?

[robust inlet]

free obol stack

[long python]

don't buy any flurbo items until you have 5 maxed stat upgrades

[mint rivet]

square hyper, dragonic

[icy mantle]

😭

[acoustic horizon]

anyone down to do chizoar?

[robust inlet]

im pretty sure i have

[keen parcel]

If i can have 2 people with a decent rank 10man party for 4th frog should be easy

[mint rivet]

got dragonic from that shop yet?

[warm grove]

dragonic is a must have, also got the slug and penguins just because its limited shop

[icy mantle]

what about pendant

[mint rivet]

its a singleplayer boss

[robust inlet]

no

[acoustic horizon]

ah ok

[mint rivet]

Dragonic > deathblossom

[icy mantle]

alright chill im buying it

[robust inlet]

its just liquid tho

[white lintel]

I’d spend your gems elsewhere, the pendent isn’t worth imo

[warm grove]

"just"

[robust inlet]

is it rly that goated

[mint rivet]

"just"

[thorny zinc]

"just"

[icy mantle]

lemme buy it and tell u my reaction bro

[warm grove]

yeah its the rarest gemshop limited upgrade

[mint rivet]

and its rare too

[robust inlet]

alr ill buy it

[thorny zinc]

who does alchemy anyway

[mint rivet]

false

[white lintel]

It gave me my 4th draconic

[robust inlet]

rare is everything

[mint rivet]

just some random mechanic, I'll stick to clickers

[thorny zinc]

real xd

[mint rivet]

its about to give it to me too

[icy mantle]

21/hr to 27/hr wow crazy 😭 x2 capacity was great tho

[mint rivet]

100 bosses, amazing rng

[icy mantle]

i can upgrade a lot more b ubbles per day now

btw ancient echoes pack or db pack?

[white lintel]

Think about it like 210 to 270 instead, if you don’t think that’s big

[cursive galleon]

[icy mantle]

yeah it would be big if i had 210 but im not even close ther so

[mint rivet]

think about it like 2.1m to 2.7m, 600k/hr

[strange flare]

got any spare for the top 3 spirits?

[white lintel]

But you will be eventually

[mint rivet]

I am at 78 ....still

[cursive galleon]

sadly no D: i have some moles left over

[icy mantle]

im so jealous bro

[mint rivet]

and I do casually active bubo

[white lintel]

DB imo for ribbons

[cursive galleon]

got really lucky, i finally got a rift slug from a random person in the world sending a trade over :D

[strange flare]

if you know anyone who does send em my way my ass still needs to push w6 fully and stuck in c9

[warm grove]

bean I am catching up after last night CC, at 63 now

[mint rivet]

DB for sure, very nice dr

[icy mantle]

yeah im thinking about that too

[long python]

spent 600 gems before the update now I can't afford the draconic cauldron it's over

[warm grove]

grind for some gems daily

[keen parcel]

Put a post in party channel that ill be hosting HH in 30min

[mint rivet]

i don't do overnight active

[icy mantle]

go do colo if u have the tickets

[long python]

Idk how long this update will last though

[mint rivet]

you can't put it?

[warm grove]

then I will overtake you someday assuming my schoolwork doesn't get in the way

[icy mantle]

like a month probably dont wry

[mint rivet]

each w1 colo lends 9 gems, do the math

[icy mantle]

next update is a new masterclass and its 1 month later

[thorny zinc]

we have gems guys

[keen parcel]

Placed a post

[warm grove]

9 gems each? I got 806 tickets

[strange flare]

means I can surpass you got it

[warm grove]

got two whole gem packs in my pocket you telling me?

[mint rivet]

I can get ...

[mint rivet]

huh

[keen parcel]

I need like 80 more and ill have my 3rd couldern dragonic

[strange flare]

dude even I have all 4 lmao

[warm grove]

Wish I could HH but I gotta leave soon

[keen parcel]

Just know i am hosting

[mint rivet]

even i, says the dude that only knows how to CC and forget bubo active

[thorny zinc]

I only have 1

new ball shop btw

[mint rivet]

oh ok

[icy mantle]

so huge bro

[strange flare]

i didnt forget he was active it was all deliberate

[mint rivet]

even worse

[icy mantle]

damn ill reach 750 lab in 2 days

[vestal briar]

whats teh best way to farm breeding levels? im level 5 currently just unlocked world 4, and im wanting to level breeding

[keen parcel]

Your already close or over rank 40 by now right?

[mint rivet]

this is huge ngl, 30% at lvl 101

[mint rivet]

i am r46 I believe

[zealous onyx]

keep hatching eggs, lvl bm talent

[keen parcel]

Aah nice

[strange flare]

mane this is slow even after 2 years

[keen parcel]

Yoy get a good amount off drops then 😄

[icy mantle]

i spent all my gold balls for this

[warm grove]

yeah bean, guess what? I am R47

[mint rivet]

did u max out this?

[warm grove]

that means my entire account progression is better

[icy mantle]

no..

[mint rivet]

life completed

[mint rivet]

extremely dumb move

[icy mantle]

this one was my first max literally

[warm grove]

no, that's only when I get to R50

[mint rivet]

proves that not all 🐳 can play the game optimally

[strange flare]

actually about none of them can

[keen parcel]

I got this one

[icy mantle]

btw lavas doing hide n seek reawrd 7k green crystal

[keen parcel]

Refinery now 30% now down to 33seconds

[mint rivet]

ew u did a split? why not max dr then go for villager

[icy mantle]

i aint one

[mint rivet]

this time I am not 2 steps ahead, but 7 seconds behind

IT jumpscare

[strange flare]

man I really don't want to resample

[mint rivet]

first time I ran out of spore caps for red salts since I reached w4

[icy mantle]

someone just won 5 tradeable doots and 7k green crystal as an hide n seek reward i cannot be more jealous

[strange flare]

jesus

[mint rivet]

lava blessing those people

[icy mantle]

indeed

[mint rivet]

dw, at least the guy who won 5 samurais is giving 3 away

[icy mantle]

and i aint winning that aswell

[keen parcel]

I probeply wait till tomorrow or sunday before i finally resample

[mint rivet]

its a higher chance

[icy mantle]

where will he giveaway btw

[mint rivet]

he alr did, go enter it

[icy mantle]

where tho

[mint rivet]

trade discussion, scroll up

[icy mantle]

alr tysm

[mint rivet]

np

[icy mantle]

i cant find it

[mint rivet]

its a message with many reactions

[icy mantle]

hes talking about emoting on a post what post bro 😭

[mint rivet]

u emote on that message

press the thumbs up

[thorny zinc]

[surreal spear]

Sometimes i feel like this game should be called active on

[icy mantle]

aight ty broo

goodluck yall

[thorny zinc]

wdym is called like that

[mint rivet]

dw DB is getting afk mechanic in 1 month

[thorny zinc]

XD

[icy mantle]

the win chance is actually alot so its possible

[hoary pebble]

What map do people usually farm Crystal Countdowns on? Tremor Wurms?

[icy mantle]

i never ever won a single giveaway in my life no matter how many ppl join it so probably im not the winner

[surreal spear]

btw is it know when the next master class is being released

[mint rivet]

hourly clicked vs not hourly clicked, so far progression

[mint rivet]

1 month

[thorny zinc]

first lvl 400

[icy mantle]

what is atom click

[mint rivet]

its masterclass of bubo

[mint rivet]

i mean hourly click

[surreal spear]

what are sigils?

[mint rivet]

a forbidden begginer trap

[surreal spear]

why is that

[plain heath]

lmao

[mint rivet]

104 more lvls ..for 1.7% more potency

[surreal spear]

griffybit said something about not getting them to early but idk what they are

[icy mantle]

i might do some bravery jail if i win the giveaway lmao

[mint rivet]

since only dumb and unexperienced people consider even spending more than 10hrs on them before unlocking all w6 bubbles

[mint rivet]

which one

[icy mantle]

sammy

theres more giveawy?

[mint rivet]

I thought u were talking about some lava giveaway I didn't know

[icy mantle]

oh

[mint rivet]

so close to m2

[icy mantle]

why is the doot winner not doing giveaway 😭

[mint rivet]

not all people are kind

[icy mantle]

lava said he should at least give away 3

[thorny void]

What servers did gem envelopes drop? I'm super late to the stream, maybe they still spawn 😅

[icy mantle]

its a deal

[mint rivet]

he should or he must

[icy mantle]

i didnt really listen tbh

[mint rivet]

any carrot, balloon, cake, peanut server

w1 town

[thorny void]

Thx!

[mint rivet]

np

[icy mantle]

but tf are u gonna do with 5 doots anyways one for get samurai and one to get golem+jocund or sm th and thats all 3 more just to stay like that

[rough hedge]

just wasted 62 hours of candy trying to stick it in my storage 😦

[surreal spear]

what do i do for acuraccy in w4 i haave around 3.5-4.5k accuraccy

[cursive galleon]

do i go for shimmer or seasalt? i have trash and rando unlocked

[slow trail]

Shimmer

[mint rivet]

trade 3 for all the pets in the game and keep 2 for future pets to come

[icy mantle]

yeah "future" is probably at least 1 year later but still its genius to save them

[strange flare]

slight improvement

[slow trail]

How do u trade bc my pets still say untradable

DAMMMM THATS ANIT SLIGHT

[mint rivet]

link
Lineglecter

[burnt warren]

Free pets are untradable

[mint rivet]

even worse if u got a wisdom chopping bonus

[strange flare]

nope

I sampled those logs like 4 days ago

[slow trail]

@burnt warren dam thx

[errant saffron]

is there a guide on which prayers to use at what time
skilling vs fighting v AFK vs active etc

[mint rivet]

u gotta buy gems and use them to roll TRADEABLE pets

[strange flare]

ballot bonus + i somehow out leveled my vman on ES so I fixed it

[mint rivet]

just use brain

[mint rivet]

still bad sample

[errant saffron]

concerning min maxing

[strange flare]

you do you it's pretty much maxed out for me atm

[mint rivet]

it clearly isn't, get wisdom bonus

now we will see 13 digit print numbers

[strange flare]

ah yeas, let me randomy get from c9 to c15 today

[mint rivet]

U NEGLECTED hole too? damn

[strange flare]

I literally just started

[mint rivet]

thought you enjoyed that hole

[robust inlet]

when hh?

[mint rivet]

8min 29s

[white lintel]

literally 5 minutes

[robust inlet]

any meals i should go for, i can shit cook spd 😭

[icy mantle]

btw if i get the rift 5* unlock will this just turn into 5* instantly or do i have to grind cards again?

[robust inlet]

or should i just farm diamond chef

[odd obsidian]

all the eligible cards will immediately turn 5*

[zealous onyx]

try to do cook speed meals

[icy mantle]

nice how many cards for 5* btw

[zealous onyx]

esp cabbage.

[mint rivet]

instantly

[late tiger]

if multikill doesnt effect rare drops then whats the point of multikill, just to get large drop amounts of the base drop?

[mint rivet]

CABAGGE gives the most, by miles, cook speed out of all meals

[surreal spear]

should i go through and get all 4 star cards for w1 2 and 3?

[odd obsidian]

depends on the card

[robust inlet]

im not getting 3b cabbages any time soon 😭

[odd obsidian]

w1 should be in the 5-10ks

[mint rivet]

for example, mine gives this per 10 lvls, and I got 15k+, u can imagine

[odd obsidian]

while w6 is probably in the 100ks

or even the 1ms

[icy mantle]

holy shi 5-10k already for w1?

[odd obsidian]

i dont know actually

[mint rivet]

5m peak

[odd obsidian]

wiki has precise numbers, its a better source

[icy mantle]

ladles?

[icy mantle]

oh should i put my ribbon into cabb? or is there any other would be worth more

[timid turtle]

Why is my vault upgrades not showing

[slow trail]

Chat what Is like the best divine build for farming and fighting

[timid turtle]

Shouldn't it be at top

[hollow siren]

do bones for the grimore have to be farmed actively?

[mint rivet]

u also got vman, atom, bubble, I am showing u these so u can compare to see how good each one is, look at the difference not the number

[mint rivet]

I would

[icy mantle]

yep

[hollow siren]

alright thanks

[icy mantle]

u will be able to grind it afk too when the new master class released

[mint rivet]

until a month later when update drops, yes

the masterclass of bubo is gonna be insane in 1 month

I gotta get unused to calling bubo..well bubo

[surreal spear]

what elite class will bowman become

[icy mantle]

i wont buy any more jewels with gems anymore cuz its expensive and i probably got all the best ones

[mint rivet]

this is amazing news for me, leek really is insane, so insane that I won't consider the critters in gem shop

[icy mantle]

im missing like 4-5 sooooo cheap jewels i dont wnt them for 450 gems 😭

[white path]

buying out the penguins gave me 50% more fill rate

[keen parcel]

Then wait and craft

[mint rivet]

REALLY?

[strange flare]

real neglect is I don't even have equinox symbols yet

[mint rivet]

I don't either

[strange flare]

smh neglectful

[mint rivet]

too hard for me rn

[icy mantle]

i got the black one for dmg and one that boost ur coin gain for gmush i think im pretty much done with buying them

[white path]

before and after

[zealous onyx]

done with quest items?

[strange flare]

oh I really need to do that I have that dream too

[mint rivet]

wow, 10% x 5 really is 50%

good to know, still not considering

idk how much charge u need to max out whole equinox

[mint rivet]

not even 1

[white path]

I had quite a lot of gems saved up so I bought out all the slugs and penguins (and ofc dragonic cauldron)

[mint rivet]

I will really only have 5 hard gstacks , 1 is red frisbee, and idk other 4

[icy mantle]

red frisbee 💀

[mint rivet]

how many dragonics u got now?

[white path]

all of them

[mint rivet]

going well

165 sample only though

[tight cape]

anybody got a guide for Snowman wave 50

[acoustic horizon]

what the heck is egg nest?

[icy mantle]

oh u can sample them

[mint rivet]

w4 thing

[zealous onyx]

you should do the easy ones

[icy mantle]

what about bone dust

[mint rivet]

there is a whole equinox dream for doing that

[acoustic horizon]

yea where? i jsut got to world 4

[mint rivet]

would take 100 days at my current 100k/day

[icy mantle]

doable

[keen parcel]

Happy houre has started

[zealous onyx]

rare drop of baba yaga?

[robust inlet]

jus spent 1k ladles to get all my dishes from plat to dem/void

[keen parcel]

Ill be in dice server 13

[mint rivet]

so here is a problem..my 2nd sb has all quest gstack items available

[robust inlet]

alr

[robust inlet]

got 6b cook spd now

[mint rivet]

how hard is it to gstack quest items on SB

[vestal briar]

im brand new to cooking and breeding, how do i get the cooked chicken to unlock splicing upgrade for my animals

i have the 6 dead genes but i need 3 cooked chicken

for upgrade

[zealous onyx]

follow the quest of the sleeping carrot, buy the splice gun on w4 town

[robust inlet]

chicken? do u mean turkey

[vestal briar]

yes turkey

[zealous onyx]

then you have to cook that meal in the kitchen

just have the meal's image on the kitchen, then it produces

[full briar]

I can make my last character, should it be blood berserker, elemental sorcerer, or seige breaker

[icy mantle]

is this the proper lineup im too lazy to check the spreadsheet

[zealous onyx]

my dupes are DK, ES, SB. its your preference on what would be your last character.

[timid turtle]

^^^^^

Can someone help 🙏🏻

[full briar]

Which of the three I listed is most important

[tight cape]

anyone got a guide for snowmen TD wave 50?

[surreal spear]

hwo do i get vials

[zealous onyx]

vault upgrade?

[zealous onyx]

check guides masterlist

[tight cape]

drop items in front of the cauldron in w2 town

[zealous onyx]

DK for refinery/construction, ES for double divinity (w5), SB for sailing (w5)

[zealous onyx]

drop item on cauldron

[hoary pebble]

I can't tell if this is a visual bug or not but my DK is seemingly getting twice the Construction EXP/hour when I'm not actively playing on it. Is there anything that could cause this?

[zealous onyx]

dk talent?

[hoary pebble]

This one? I thought it always applied, regardless of active/afk gameplay.

[strange flare]

me doing a whole resample without switching card preset: 😭

[zenith hare]

woop

[zealous onyx]

yes but idk what would be your case with then

[mint rivet]

oh I was afk for a bit and I snap back to the game and 6mins deep and killing frog 4

[surreal spear]

where should i farm liquid with bubo

[zenith hare]

wurms is the best cc map for bubo (last w5 map)

[hoary pebble]

Flombeige -> Citringes -> Tremor Wurms, depending on what you can reliably kill.

[zenith hare]

w4 is floms, w3 is blood bones

[icy mantle]

i always forget something when doing resamples bro..

[zenith hare]

iirc theyre only w4 so yeah

[hoary pebble]

yeah im clueless on this one, i have no idea what could be making such a difference

[thorny zinc]

[icy mantle]

damn ur way ahead of me

[thorny zinc]

thats sad ngl

very sad

[icy mantle]

yeah i hate waiting for liquids

[strange flare]

slightly over half my gt now

[strange flare]

always bro

[thorny zinc]

i hate you guys

[zenith hare]

good

[strange flare]

good

[steep plank]

whats the best class for v1 party dung?

[thorny zinc]

dk or db

[zenith hare]

DK early on, db in w6 for now

[thorny zinc]

see i knew it

[zenith hare]

likely rg when he comes out

[steep plank]

shadow is pro

[steep plank]

who is rg

[zenith hare]

gonna be dks master class

[steep plank]

Royal Guard?

[zenith hare]

ye

[icy mantle]

nahh ur learning it bro

[steep plank]

was it teased on stream

[timid turtle]

Yes

[thorny zinc]

finally someone that really says the truth

[zenith hare]

today? awh i missed that

[steep plank]

no im asking

[zenith hare]

nope

[steep plank]

never seen anyth about dk master class before

[zenith hare]

all we know is name

[thorny zinc]

it will prob be bubo master class

the next one i mean

[zenith hare]

but dk is alr really good for active, chances are its master is gonna buff it even more

[mint rivet]

t3?

[zenith hare]

just like what happened with db

[zenith hare]

yeah its a t3

[mint rivet]

i rolled a 100 and did not even see

[icy mantle]

DK is my main cant wait for royal guardian bro it will be insane

[mint rivet]

@keen parcel ty for carry

[zenith hare]

smh

[keen parcel]

3 defence T2 10 defence T3

[zealous onyx]

what classes do you have?

[mint rivet]

this happy hour just got me to 2 more!!

[mint rivet]

wdym

[zealous onyx]

vault upgrades are only visible on the codex

[hoary pebble]

All of them, including DB, with 1 extra DK.

[keen parcel]

On keychains

[mint rivet]

the keychain stats?

[zenith hare]

is a white one

[keen parcel]

T2 keychains always got 3defence T3 keychains have 10defence

[mint rivet]

what's the max

[zealous onyx]

can i have the breakdown?

[mint rivet]

oh alr

[keen parcel]

Like 2 more levels

[mint rivet]

so ice 3?

[zenith hare]

2 dk, es, bubo, sb, db, bm, vman

[icy mantle]

how tf bro i get 10k flurbos per 20x run

[mint rivet]

🤮

[hoary pebble]

1 DK, 1 ES, 1 SB, 1 DB, 1 Bubo, 1 BM, 1 Vman, a second DK

[keen parcel]

Ice IV

[mint rivet]

I do 40x run

[icy mantle]

how..

[mint rivet]

prayer

[zenith hare]

prayer

[keen parcel]

Prayer

[mint rivet]

I think he got the message guys

[zealous onyx]

dis just 8, no? we have 10 slots total

[zenith hare]

holding onto 2 as beginners is a valid strat due to masters

[hoary pebble]

Correct. I haven't bothered with the rest.

[zenith hare]

we have no idea what meta will be afterwards

[mint rivet]

is wis worth it to afk at?

[hoary pebble]

I haven't even created 2 beginners with the ultra future proofing idea in mind because I cannot think of any good names for them

[icy mantle]

oh right

[zenith hare]

it helps

[icy mantle]

i probably dont have that prayer yet so i didnt know

[mint rivet]

ofc it helps, but worth it?

[zenith hare]

is it worth it to you

[mint rivet]

I could either push w6 past ceramics or do wisdom

[icy mantle]

didnt expect to go this further bro 😭

[keen parcel]

W3 worship like wave 30 or 50

[zenith hare]

mine rn

[icy mantle]

oh then i do have it

[mint rivet]

idk what should be done since idk how good wis bonuses really are

[zenith hare]

there is a dr bonus

[zealous onyx]

i have 1 bb, 2DK, 1 bubo, 2 SB(bowman), 1 maestro, 2 ES and a bm.

[mint rivet]

....

[zenith hare]

yuck 2 sb

[zealous onyx]

better than 2 bms

[mint rivet]

its the most balanced setup

[zenith hare]

worse then 2 dbs

[mint rivet]

3 of each class and vman never goes wrong

[woeful karma]

just got this from the 1 gem thing

can i reroll it to get +7%?

[zenith hare]

2vman is better then 2sb

[zenith hare]

yeah

[woeful karma]

man i need to do next HH
its been a few weeks ive really been slacking

need to get Emp rings on everyone

[zenith hare]

@mint rivet for the prints alone the second vman has more use cases then secoond sb does and you cant deny it

[mint rivet]

I have been slacking for more than 2 days

[topaz plover]

FINALLY SOME VMAN RESPECT AROUND HERE

[mint rivet]

I am denying it no matter what u say

[zenith hare]

...its more saying sb is so bad that even the bad 2vman is better then it :3

[topaz plover]

I do not know the context but seeing someone say 2 Vman is better than 2 of another class makes me happy :)

[woeful karma]

why do i eitrher get +1% or +4-10 total stats but stuck at +6% lol

[strange flare]

small increase

[topaz plover]

It's the most respect I've seen vman get around here so far so it's good enough lol

[zenith hare]

cause thats how rerolling works, the +-1% is the rarest option

[zealous onyx]

do whichever you prefer its still your account, no one must dictate what you prefer

[mint rivet]

stop neglecting ur skilling

[woeful karma]

huge

[zenith hare]

tbh when 11/12th slots releases, i do want a second vman

[woeful karma]

i see

[zenith hare]

im stuck with a second sb

i want out

[zealous onyx]

you can swap it right

[zenith hare]

only to bm

[woeful karma]

ohg god

[woeful karma]

three BM
take it or leave it.

[mint rivet]

I wonder...SB pushing w6 or this..though idk how big the skydoggy lock is

[zenith hare]

i unironically could

[zenith hare]

db doing that

[woeful karma]

oh shit this is easy
i want this

thats so much easier then 2 of my dreams

[zenith hare]

and the lock is 9 peoples

[white path]

the reward is trash

[topaz plover]

There's no way Infinilyte doesn't do SOMETHING to make 2 vman viable with 11/12

[icy mantle]

bro the neglecting

[mint rivet]

why DB

[surreal spear]

I feel so stupid for not getting my vials cause i didnt know how all this time now im time gated

[woeful karma]

(400 KR kills and waves on all 6 totams)

[zenith hare]

he has like 20% better afk kph

[mint rivet]

I only see new equinox dream unlocked

[zenith hare]

which means 20% less candies wasted

[mint rivet]

yeah he can have whatever that, DB is pushing w6 at that time

[zenith hare]

tbh i wnat it just for talent coverage in tab 4

[woeful karma]

same

[zenith hare]

candy doesnt stop the pushing

[mint rivet]

i won't candy gmush

[topaz plover]

That's a damn good point, those talents are basically impossible to max all of them at once

[zenith hare]

i have almost all tbf

[mint rivet]

I've been at this since before hole

[woeful karma]

Ooo nice
wish i could get eclipse skulls :(

[cyan sequoia]

the rift where u need to get 1000 skulls and higher skulls are worth more, what determines how to get higherer skulls?

[mint rivet]

though, with further worlds and buffs, u will be able to get more portals per speedrun

[topaz plover]

I mean I've got just about 1.1k points in that tab but even though im not that far into speedruns, I think it's safe to say vman talent page is hard to fully max

[zenith hare]

same as the 2 lava skull rift. killing a skulled mob has a chance to upgrade it

[woeful karma]

i cant wait until W4

[white path]

i'm slacking too

[zenith hare]

given i have 87 portals

[mint rivet]

dw u'll get there, dmg bonus is insane, and I did not even eclipse 1 mob in w6

[cyan sequoia]

so I dont need to spare them, but infact just go after them

[zenith hare]

im still 7 portals away from maxing em

[mint rivet]

no trillions yet???

[zenith hare]

yeah

[woeful karma]

so far only 3 lava skulls but i havent worked on skulls since i purpled them

[white path]

I don't even have eclipses done

[mint rivet]

2 grand construct mastery lvl

[zenith hare]

mines bad too

[mint rivet]

now I can say I have a better deathnote than an endgamer

[white path]

i'm early game

[mint rivet]

i went from purple and chows to eclipse and wows, in a 1hr session, with 3k hours of candy

[terse haven]

im using this correctly right

[zenith hare]

yes

[mint rivet]

further or behind arctis

[cyan sequoia]

is the whole rift area part of the rift? My graveyard keeps spawning the hordes at the entrance which gets rid of the progress in top left, not sure if it counts when I kill there

[woeful karma]

all im going to say is the first one is infinity more possilbe then the first one (for me)

[topaz plover]

Do I count as early game if my furthest map is bamboo spirits but my best weapon is a Void weapon from tab 3

[white path]

I think were around the same

[viscid quartz]

just got to w4 do candies work on cooking?

[zenith hare]

thats just due to how graveyard works

[molten vapor]

got the same, that's the max?

[mint rivet]

oh so you are not endgame, just lategame

[zenith hare]

its +-2 platforms above or below

[woeful karma]

no clue but its better then +6%

[zenith hare]

anywhere on the platform or y axis

[mint rivet]

are u getting 350m kills per hour at gmush?

[zenith hare]

yes iirc

[cyan sequoia]

yeah but this disappears as I go past the rift stone, so Im wondering if it couunts

[topaz plover]

I'd say DB isn't very good for rift, especially the Skull ones

[viscid quartz]

?

[zenith hare]

nowadays, did that at 120m however

[mint rivet]

nice

[mint rivet]

what's ur node bonus?

[zenith hare]

no, and even if it did, its not worth

[topaz plover]

Oh, yeah you make progress even if you're on the left

I think

[grim onyx]

Right now I'm using SB for skull

[viscid quartz]

like why does the main quest force you to finish cooking a thing to go into the actual world its so lame

[grim onyx]

But idk if that's the best option

[viscid quartz]

4 hours

[zenith hare]

its 15 mins

its called get lunch

or watch a yt vid, or an episode of a show

[mint rivet]

i would use DB/BB and zow/chow/schow/wow (whichever u lack) at the same time

[zenith hare]

or study, or whatever else

[viscid quartz]

its 10 pm on a weekend 😭

[cyan sequoia]

this game is really fun how u can just forget about it, or u can spend all day actively doing things

[mint rivet]

just play idleon on whatever other character meanwhile

[zenith hare]

yeah and the quest is still 15 mins of time

[terse haven]

should I burn my candies for the last 3 mobs for vman req

[woeful karma]

noooo
it is HH
i dont wanna do HH but i am free

[mint rivet]

is there any way I can see all my gaming bit gain sources?

[grim onyx]

zow/chow/schow/wow?

[terse haven]

unfortunately my maestro needs to afk for 4 hours and 10 minutes so it wont do much if I unlock them now

[viscid quartz]

the finish recipe part is the 4 hours

[zenith hare]

IT likely

[zenith hare]

now is that cause you did zero spice?

[torpid acorn]

Idleon insight if you wanna manually

[zenith hare]

cause youre supposed to use the first spice

[viscid quartz]

i did use spice

[zenith hare]

and the 0 spice is a secret achievement which is quite slow to get early on

[mint rivet]

idk where there, i can't see it

[viscid quartz]

just one though idk if it matters

[woeful karma]

what is II
ive heard of it
but is it sorta like autoreview but without the auto?

[mint rivet]

manually, nah

[zenith hare]

you also have ladles on hand

and you dont have to be afk cooking to cook btw

afk cooking only gives ladles

[mint rivet]

idk what am doing wrong, I just want that upgrade (can get to 1Q if I save for a bit)

[viscid quartz]

yeah they cut it from 8 hours to 4, quest said instantly complete?

[topaz plover]

Ladles are like cooking only candy

[zenith hare]

you didnt use spice then

[mint rivet]

what source of bit gain am I even missing

[zenith hare]

snail?

[mint rivet]

I think 21 is good enough

[zenith hare]

and whats the fert upgrade, and shell upgrade, and squirrel

[surreal spear]

why is my spore cap print so low

[mint rivet]

its monster mat

[zenith hare]

cause kpk and kph multis arent included

[stable valve]

how tf you get 760k gold nugs

[surreal spear]

😦

[cyan sequoia]

what would be the easiest prints to get to greenstack?

[zenith hare]

bravery bit mult?

[topaz plover]

Only 2.05x on squirrel??? Dude mine is at like 2.25 and I'm way earlier than you

[cyan sequoia]

my equinox has been stuck for quite a while

[zenith hare]

the first few wood and ore, and w4/5 shop items

[mint rivet]

i focused more on getting to active gaming

[topaz plover]

Still, I'd assume by now you'd have that mult a bit higher

[cyan sequoia]

cant believe I didnt realize to use the 250k stacks for it

[zenith hare]

active gaming got yeeted btw

[mint rivet]

wdym

[zenith hare]

its now only the non town variant

cant get the 1 second cd, only 5 second

[mint rivet]

so overall its harder to active gaming?

[zenith hare]

eh

its still extremely similar, and is 5x easier to get

just dont sit in town when doing it

[strange flare]

man I only got time to do 4 characters

I hope I can get time to do my catching and fishing samples tomorrow at least

[mint rivet]

you would be surprised to see a 11 digit nugget

[stable valve]

ive got 15k but every time i click shovel it only spits out nugs at like 900 max

[mint rivet]

so meme, after requesting those numbers, what is your conclusion?

[mint rivet]

its equinox, that is the answer

[molten vapor]

i should bring all my statues or start saving them for onyx? i don't have choco chip yet

[zenith hare]

that im not thinking as i am eating spagheti and meatballs

[zenith hare]

you wont really miss them tbh

[mint rivet]

please tell me when u do think, I am in need

[zenith hare]

ik i got it pre hole update, tryna remember what i pushed for

[molten vapor]

so give all to the statue man but kapow?

[zenith hare]

yeah

[limpid panther]

got a question
what does the "Lab Tubes" look like? could someone help

[zenith hare]

how long does it take you to get 100T bits?

[zenith hare]

the blue stuff in right of w4 town portal

souped tubes look yellow

[mint rivet]

just some random claim gives more

[zenith hare]

theyre prioritized in character creation order

[mint rivet]

its very easy

[zenith hare]

oh then you have a vastly higher bit multi then i had

[mint rivet]

low tier random spawning plants give these

[zenith hare]

whats ur growth speed?

[mint rivet]

note: no kitsune on

[zenith hare]

eh

[mint rivet]

9.5min

[zenith hare]

turn kitsune on

[limpid panther]

ohhh
so they must be in lab and not using the god to get the benefits?

[zenith hare]

you should be at slow fast claims

[zenith hare]

they do gain the lab width bonus if they have god, but yeah

[limpid panther]

ah okay then
thanks so much !

[mint rivet]

here is the answer

with kitsune 1.5min

[zenith hare]

also it being on gives more evos

[icy mantle]

yo am i doing something dumb? i locked them cuz i need them to upgrade stuff

[zenith hare]

meaning higher tier crops meaning higher then the 3x loss

[mint rivet]

follow autoreview

[zenith hare]

crops? i mean plants

[zenith hare]

just reload the game

[icy mantle]

ok

[zenith hare]

its a known bug

[mint rivet]

1.4min now

[molten vapor]

Welcome to Backgrounds

[icy mantle]

u got teleported to whale universe bro dont reload the game

apprecaite the beauty

[turbid stump]

Have u updated?

[surreal spear]

it says there is an update

[thorny zinc]

i hate this td i hate this td i hate this td

[mint rivet]

how far am I from active gaming?

[plain heath]

are these required or just helpful if not 100% survival (the food)

[mint rivet]

W prayer wdym?

[surreal spear]

where/when do i get royal sampler

[ionic widget]

When farming cards, is it better to have Obol with Card Drop % or generic Drop %?

[mint rivet]

oops wrong reply

[thorny zinc]

bro this td sucks

[mint rivet]

W prayer wdym

[thorny zinc]

is a pain

[mint rivet]

i got it a lot higher than w1 td

[thorny zinc]

i dont want to see a snowman again in my entire life

[turbid stump]

2 td in map under the tree in w1 if i recall

[icy mantle]

i understood absolutely nothing bro..

i guess i should save the grapes..?

[turbid stump]

Drop% dont affect cards, only card drop so🙃

[turbid stump]

Yeah until they grape you

[icy mantle]

sure if its a milf

cmon bro why would i lie

tf am i even gonna achieve with this?

[molten vapor]

what cooking lvls do?

[icy mantle]

get u more efficiency so more ladles per day

i might be cooked

[ionic widget]

Nevermind, managed to find the answer. Best just choose drop rate since it affects both general drops and card drops.

[woeful karma]

ohj hey this happened to me
i clsoed the game and reopened it and it fixed it

[icy mantle]

yo zui

[woeful karma]

elloo

[icy mantle]

i created a new account to do a challenge just like u

[surreal spear]

where do you see that

[icy mantle]

bro tf am i gonna do in w1 rn

[woeful karma]

lol nice

[icy mantle]

like whats my goal to get to w2

[woeful karma]

well
unlike me
you got vault

[icy mantle]

idleon toolbox

[woeful karma]

vault makes all aspects of your life so so so much far vastly easier then mine was

[icy mantle]

for sure

[woeful karma]

you wont be grindign sand giants for dem coins for weeks

[icy mantle]

already unlocked 5 characters in a day

[woeful karma]

youd only be grinding for days

[woeful karma]

god damn

[icy mantle]

lmao

[white lintel]

I need some HH champs

[icy mantle]

anyways im guessing i should kill nightmare amarok after w2?

[woeful karma]

the game has changed over the past 2 ish years

[icy mantle]

wait before i mean

[woeful karma]

ello arctis

[woeful karma]

or within W1 like i did

[icy mantle]

you can literally get to w3 in a day not even a day why did they made it so much easier

[woeful karma]

up to you tho

[icy mantle]

i meant before

[woeful karma]

yeah that and grinding levels at rats ig if you wish

[paper vigil]

Gem shop is not loading?

[woeful karma]

idk
tis both limited and not limited

you have vault and Owl and so many more things

speaking of owl need to go check if i can FR

nope

2E37/1.5E38

[icy mantle]

yeah ill do that i dont have much time for an alt account tho so i wont play it often

[turbid stump]

There will be upgrages that will make it worth

[plain heath]

is warrior that much more specialized for mining than maestro? thats a crazy difference in mining efficiency

[woeful karma]

warrior is built for mining

maestro is built for jack of all trades and account support

[icy mantle]

bro....

i lowk wanna add u to help about any questions

just ask anything to me in DMs ill reply

[plain heath]

i knew warrior was specialized but i didnt think it would be that different

[open hemlock]

Does anyone has a website or guide for all Character Build set?

[icy mantle]

i gain like 15mxp/hr on my vman and 100mxp/hr on my warrior

its only the exp difference

[lusty lava]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[odd obsidian]

there are schematics that give chances to get more bell ring per bell ring

[icy mantle]

ohh i was thinking about that

[odd obsidian]

-# and also possibly an efficiency difference

[icy mantle]

i meant exp difference is already huge im not even talking about the efficiency