#midgame-chat-w3๐งw4๐ฎ
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Think so
How did I get this without fighting either
All I did was claim 9,5 hours of fishing
thx
anyone got any sample direction i should work on?
Refinery speed always helps
i really need to rank them more but it takes so much
This isn't that bad only 30 minutes active
that's a lotta balls
what are the purple bleu and orange things
how do you enable the thingy again in pet battles where only a select few auto use skills?
Gems with more bonuses
i forgot the button lol
Or better said jewels
It think you need to toggle the auto use before battle but click on the pets to deactivate them
not sure tho
i should get full void armor right?
Hey whats the best build for beating the arena the fastest for the tome
real
Here are my cycle cost every 34 seconds
when ranking up
why not ranking up red tho?
Did rank up
i see it indeed turns into an X tyvm
oh okay
it was the icon lol
Never tried it myself ahah
I can get almost get 3 ranks a day for reddox
are the class specific chestplate and hat worth it?
With out getting additional progress
In the end all for slab 
whats that
W5 stuff
where page 2
Basicly hunters looty loot ability but differnt


5 min later
is there a link for early on worship set up guide? trying to get wawe 50 at least on each for equinox
best monster to splice for w3 would be rams?
What you mean
For the w3 dna
what the best monster to splice would be? yeah for dna
world specific
Think mustashes are best
beauty that makes sense
Most kph map usally 
gotta get these shinies ty sir
what should i spent my talent points on in the 4th tab?
Idk maybe if i knew the class
afk fight
Anyone experience a problem with infinite star signs disappearing? lost 16 infinite star signs over night, when i shouldve been gaining new ones instead
- attack talents till you are capped
just been playing over steam, but i guess ill try logging in on my phone to check, thanks for a possible solution sir ๐
And depending on how many talent point you got
For specificly afk fight mostly
ok
Since alot off factors matter less in afk then in active
Lol, i logged in on phone, now i have only the first 5 infinite star signs instead of having second star chart filled like i should have
and when i want to farm some rare mats? bc idk if my dk is good enough bc the orb only lasts 50sec and i dont even get 100 kills in this time?
Rare on first tab or second loot tab
first but what difference does it makle
Alot 
can the oble only increase rates for 1 tab?
Orb is better for tab 2
But es is better for tab 1
I took them out and put them back in again, just to see if it would update
If i remember correctly
does multikill effect droprate?
I know they have to be in fenceyard to get exp, but thought they should still give bonuses if they werent in it. But again, theyre still in fenceyard and shiny pet bonuses tab shows their current levels, so i dunno
Thanks anyways ๐
i have been killing sandy pots for 10-15min with sb and havent gotten 1 shard is that normal
and now its fixed again when i logged off from phone and into steam again
2.83 but the plunderous mobs have like 2000% drop rate
2880%
how do i increase?
i havent done a single post office thing on this acc
can you only do the 3 orders a day?
if i havent unlocked the others
should i use them or nah
If you keep doing the orders you unlock more, also theres a buff somewhere that gives daily boxes
@thorny zinc
when plunder farming
today
nah
and are there only 2 tabs of orders at the end
Might aslwell, you can farm them later
come on
i want to max the cauldrons first
do em
im at 5k so far
btw how do i get 99 for pickle cauldron?
buy them daily
Commitment
i mean vial
yes
and is 99 the highest number?
100 is bigger 

you dont need more than 1 level up
you only need to level the pickle vial once
oh he means the dice thing
Has anyone ever realized that they couldn't use time candies in the caverns cus it was too dark
who tf is greenstacking pickles
omg i just got it
we do
Yeah 
dmg bonuses are nice
you know you can do them in any order right?
Psychopaths
yes which is why the thing you use to speed up time in the caverns are lanterns!
Yuh
I got like 2 years worth of time candy that i just cant use rn lmao
Dont worry only like 50% off all vials ask for 99/100 roll to unlock 
yea but im too lazy to look up every item so i just look at the next one
Or am too lazy to
U can't be serious.....
why
tbh it's not too bad
Okay maybe 40%
are there like very good vials that i should get rn?
how do i level cooking? do i have to just afk in town or?
40% my ass I ain't doing that
Use balloons
There is a way to do it faster
How
bruh i spent all those pickle attemps for nothign?!
check IT or the wiki
soon
You know that you can purchace in paytowin alchemy shop for attenps and so
literally, yes
but you need to get it to level 2
lasy ahh person
cant u justz tell me?
Dw, it's destined to happen
good vials
idk what you have or need rn
here have a list of all of them
If you then drop like 18 single item drops off the same it does not eat up your attemps and get technickly more rolls
thy
there is no drop rate vial

Just calculated it would take over 27 thousand years to gstack pickles
card drop rate yes
nah ik
Not including daily reset
Why'd you calculate that....
but i didnt mean card
Is that with 1 purchase or 2 purchase?
nah sadly no dr vial
1
I can buy 2 a day
@torpid acorn ur literally an example of psychopaths ๐ญ๐ญ (jk btw)
where to get afk builds?
Idleon toolbox
Ah okay then only like 14 thousand
Very doable I see
once you get to w5 and have sufficient levels in the stamp it goes up to 2 so only half of forever

which is still forever
its true ๐คฏ
no build for siege breaker there,+ not many builds for elite classes
I just used a cosmic candy on accident (at mushrooms)
I would say anything doable within 10 years is realistically gstackable
did you get that for those who feel like getting so many 99s is to many 
still not getting my damn vials even doing that every day
This means at least 2737 items a day is needed for realistic gstack
plunder farming is boring
Turns out, I really needed to resample. Forgot few things and got to 19b now
I want to bet he forgot other things aswell
@turbid stump
Possibly, but do I wanna go back and try
be summoned
Yes since i want to be right 
fortune teller 
Let me resample others first, then I'll prove you right
when 50b oak sample
I need to get like 129m copper ore more an houre
then ill be at 69420m
Does the statues from mining count?
I'm on W3 and it's taking me hours to get to the next area. What do I do?
all statues count yes
Why is that
If you dont throw candies it takes time yes
eh will take 2-3 hours im fine with that
catching one's still u need to grind smh
anyway when next onyx
In 2 days

this will take long
Took one hour and 20 minutes
๐ค
what char
Dk
W3 statues are a pain to get...
not that hard
Need to farm with es
u get wormhole kills smh
is there any way i could speed this up?
tenteyecle
Hey do i need to have an arena entry for the beast master talent to work cause idk if its bugged but i cant do arena runs
ahh the attack thank you
you have to use it before you start the runs
anyone know why my lab bonuses are not working when i have them all connected and bear linked?
the mana box helps too
soon as i take one out, poof
Unlock arctic
are the alchemy upgrades in gem shop worth buying? they seem good. i already have crystal printer and the card slots
im late w4
The lab bonuses only work when the characters are afk in lab
bruh lol
u must not have got to w5
That is until you unlock arctis the bear god in w5
mana post box
ya i said i have bear linked lol
opa thank you7
On every character?
yup
e69
That's weird
the range can depend on your bubo skills, could be it changes, disconnects first character from the prism, the rest get killed too
what would you guys say is the fastest way to farm these๐ญ
do I checkout more regular books for this?
Crystal farming
oka
why cant i say the money based upgrades anymore? (top left of the screen)
u aren't one anymore 
No you gotta get vip membership up, has no relation to how many books you use
where do I get that up
there is none
likely why you can't remember
new bubbles
ty and also,
idk what i am doing wrong, my underlevelled archer does 1.3m damage max (it also has to armor), but my lvl 110 archer only barely reaches 900k, could you help
What world are you
class level โ damage
^
it's likely cause it's a bowman, which gains damage based on speed. vs hunter which gains damage based on slab
eh depends, mostly skill points affect them, i just dont understand what's wrong with the builds
both hunters
the difference in talents is why
beast master = ew class
2BM champion
first: why?
second: what's their talents look like
So do I need 20k statues per type just once or 20k statutes per type for each character (200k per type)
per type once, minus for the quest
For quest itโs per character but to onyx itโs account based
meta after master class
i have like one of each subclass so i just tought why not, also can i dm
alright meme how do I fix my account
I guess I need to resample this week as a starting step
you can send images here dw
when lava adds that you can fuse 2 characters with the same class in one master class
jman exists
Ok thank yall, so 40k of the 1st type and 20k everything else
whats jman
(and second squire is best early on)
journey man
journeyman
the super ultra secret class
true
hunter reached 1.4m damage out of nowhere
that's cause vault tbh
eating the coin
yum
oh and damage doesn't matter early on, it's kph that matters
i will kill him with all i have for that coin
yapper bean how dont u get tired from yapping
he is nerding
only armor lvl 94 archer has is carrot bow
like always
show the sheet stats
?
stat screen
whats a stat
like the one that u press in talents tab
what's ur food like, I notice a difference in move speed which shouldn't be the case
as long as ur pusher is cooked you are fine
both have like 3 or 4 golden sandwiches
Talents
yea I was right nvm
that shouldnt give over 10% no?
lvl 20 gives 8.33%
also i just got like 5 more levels in forge (still lower than other hunter) and reached 1.5m
cards
i have no cards equipped on this one prolly
soon as i get the unlink bonus for bear i have to wait another week for unlinks WHAT LOL
ooh wait nvm
well seems like u used them up
when you unlock a new god, you get both unlinks back
hop on world 5 hole and get pocket divinity
thought i had too do them 1 by 1
smh! no instruc!
and fyi: you can unlink multiple chars in one unlink
glad I have doot
ya that screwd me
it was cards
wouldn't have every char on the menu otherwise
I suggest to equip everyone with cards
yo how can i send pictures
!image
get higher lvl
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forgot to equip the higher lvl with cards, now it has 500k more damage ๐
ah okay
the lower lvl still has higher damage, difference of 100k but still
equipped both with same cards
just unlock world 4 what should I do
please use the gems you get for more card slots
get elite classes
and how to do that
no obols on my lower one (i didnt progress on the lower lvl ๐)
obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed
which doing a small amount of any of these sorts
thank you
Lava is streaming
tbh i forgot update was today
it's in like a minute
we get weekly updates from now on
doubt
if we do, it's master classes
he changed it
definitely not
weekly master classes
lava said its out on pc and android
do you guys like my account?

YES
oo draconic
is that good?
The hell's the first one
what should i buy with my gems?
new codex icon too
Oh gross
I'm auto active farming with my ES, I have auto-loot and I have telekinetic storage on my hotbar, it doesn't seem to trigger and the world fills up with drops so quickly. Can I leave it like that over night?
Telekinetic storage doesn't trigger automatically
You probably need much more item carrying to go overnight
how does the emperor's opal compare to the zero point stopwatch for afk fighting
(don't have them so can't just check myself)
whats that 2nd one
Equinox fill rate
lame
free hyper obol too
I guess that's alright
Great!

Rip.
where is my dr obol..
then theres the ever so useless cosmic time candy
nah this aint for db
Only thing I'm excited about there is the draconic cauldron
isnt it good for him?
id consider buying the 1st one if its exp bonuses were permanent
anyway it does nothing to help him bone farm
true
It's mob respawn, it helps in some way
what should i buy with my gems?
i will buy it anyway
Yes
wait restock ๐คฏ
okay thx
Question:
The 200 point enhancement Eclipse Green Tube improvement, does it affect everyone to the left HERE and does it work if im attuned to the bear god and can not actually be "uploaded"
since when
since right NOW
now
Everyone to the left of the bubonic
its update day wdym
these scale alright
will chopping surpass mining again
but like on that lab screen? or inside the Tubes like here (I dont have anyone here)
Lab screen
nice
sigh
Yeah fuck trying to organize the tubes lol
what is the best place for my bubo to farm for the most cranium cooking
Which world
tis that the best pendant in the game rn?
no lol
Always divine scarf
um 5 or 6
yes
but im only on spot 7 on the world 6 map
i bought it because i wanted to use it on my db
Worms technically but minichiefs is what people usually do
because is death themed
its definitely better than caustic tho, so might as well get it
no its not
thank you
is there a strat to this
and free2play
i have caustic already tho
or do i just active afk for statues
crystal farm
afk skilling
oh alr ty
ye i done it with dk and got all onyx already
just wanna grind kachows on other charas
am i tweaking or did they change this?
he did that a few weeks ago :3
you on the stream?
bro's blind ๐ญ
no
makes sense
lava said that to troll us huh?
yes
classic
1 gem hyper obal
from 4 envelops
i only got 8 gems ๐ญ
what envelope
what is this goofy ah obol
I got 14 from 4 emvelopes
Oh hey 4 more envolopes
wait so wisdom monument wasnt in game until now?
yooooo
For another 9 gems 
where tf u get em
you met that noob ew
What's the chance for a giant mob to spawn when using Tachion of the titan prayer
yall getting gems ๐ญ
we are pro
gay
you can see the chance on the character stats
Ohh thanks
Just set any dice world as home world
how
bro what
Is there a way to increase that number? I've already maxed the prayer.
you dont know how to change servers?
lava is trolling bro
what is this talent?
is it any good? and how about the Ubercharged heart?
meh not really
LOL
what you dont have it?
not at one max lvl
ubercharged is decent i guess
i dont have enough star talent points to spec into these anyway..
decent for one guy and its not even worth much for him
btw ach is fixed
im curious when to use the Book Reservation System. Is it ever used or do we just RNG books. As well as when is appariotate to use it. Is there any information about this?
๐
Guaranteed ram and 4 pulls???
it got updated 3 weeks ago
huh - wasnt like that before i just updated
just got vman how do i do this
put points into speedrun
why isnt the afk in the kitchen thing going up?
do speedrun and you get points
are bundles personal?
wdym
I dont see that bundle
you need eff
cloudsave
eff?
more efficiency = more laddles per day
What is best combo for equinox 4 pets only in pet arena?
2 doots and 2 samurais
Go get some sleep old taker

what elite class do i get a have bb dk and bubo i was thinking es
yes go for es
after that sb is good too
peapod, looter, refiller, borger
are ladles best used for recipe unlocks?
yeah
So without peapod its not worth to try?
my kills per hour are so low because they respawn too slow ๐ฆ
thats why you want to have dk and es
it's cause dk/es is the only active pushers early on.
bb however keeps up via afk gains pretty well
we are both nerding rn.
rattler can work, but you have to get lucky with looter rolls
I appreciate how helpful people are whenever I come asking silly questions regardless of world channel
Aha got it, thank you
I mean its fine but when i was pushing with barb i had 6.5k per hour and now i have 3,2k
that's rare, normally this is the only channel to answer without insulting
turned off lab node
fake
Will go try
Tried looter whale defender borger but thats not very goos combo
how do i get shiny pets?
what do you mean?
you guys are bullying me everytime
lab node gives 2x kph multi
lvl 40 breeding
select shiny pet then
but why turn it off
I'm asking if you turned it off
you can select if you want to gamble for shiny
You are the exception
then unless you were pushing with mk, your kph should still be around 6k if you have 100% acc
i hope zoro is a nice guy and ban you
and if you don't have 100% acc....get acc
bro holy cow shiny pets are so rare
yep
is es or bubo better to go for the rift challenge "Collect 3 Rift Tear Drops From Mobs Within 60 Minutes." ? or voidwalker
How in the world Do i not lag in Arean battle i cant even see anything past 144
es
es vastly
good setup, high performance mode
normally arena is extremely laggy
Its lagging so muchI have both Lmfao
the fuck
lowkey i kinda like the lab

lava is speaking pictures in 2025
3x ref, free bubbles, world wide shrines
lol the odds to hit lvl 1 on your pull
woah new codex

if I wanted to level a bit of woodcutting, should I change my wizards wis gear on to my death bringer?
old codex
its 3 weeks old

it just changed for me
if you have db, you don't need to do that
you just didnt saw it
why's that, just because at db you already have enough talent points?
whats the ??????????? class here
you have enough skill eff to reach 100%
so you can skill wherever you want with 0 loss in xp
its a secret๐ณ
every 5 levels gave a talent point to death bringer right?
no it genuinely didnt change until now
no spoilers
yup, do worship.
just tell ๐ญ
Never use syphon on es
why does it look so...shiny
Since the update i cant get my printer numbers to be purple? im a little confused i have doot and my lab is on 2x so whats wrong?
I cant its a secret
it's just a visual bug that's existed for ages
used it 4 times in total am I cooked?
is it obtanaible in world 1-2-3 (just to know if i can look for it myself
iunno but it looks nice
ohhh okay gotcha, only just got it now after updating before it was fine lmao
next one is on world 4
maybe you get it in w1 first with a secret quest idk
my people are almost free
time to grind lvl 750 for a new player ๐
then you continue in w2 and then MAYBE in w4
go for 7th character to be secret
does he know?
he doesn't
we get free pet reset if lava wins 3 gambit games
mostly i realized the second i saw "LUK boosts accurancy for the secret 4th class"
otherwise it should show in family tab
i hope you create the secret class on your 7th character
i alr used my 7th for hunter
no begginer?
begginerless
he was my 9th class, kinda thought u needed all worlds unlocked to get them
nope
okay math 750 / 7 = around 107
best time to get it is 7th but you can get it later too
i need every char lvl 107 ๐ญ
lies 6th slot is best
Thatโs nothing
fake ahh display
good giant mob odds
its not fake bro
u aren't lava

you're right he's Lava Flame2
true
brotha had 178 accuracy ๐ญ
look at my summoning
bro what are the odds
most realistic idleon player
we have the same summoning
damn
thats insane
we are so pro
Dam losed at 105
soon
is journey man the piggy thing in the sand of w2
draconic is op? wasn't sure if I should get
i cant say anything
its rare to see
you might wanna find a guide on youtube

mf pulling gems out of his ---
but i dont think anyone talks about the secret class
new pack sucks
i got 200 from envelopes
20 storage space
scanner
i barely chose basic class on lvl 94 hunter ๐
Dragon is good for liquids
u scammed lava
I wonder if I can get a fifth one 
Bruh i need do w4 splicing to get peapod๐ญ
maybe its not there
i was not trying to say its there, i was tryna say quest bugged smh
maybe is something hidden in some bush
its not
What is best map to get w4 dna, 2 one?
where you have more k/h?
Should be 2, as more mob density
HOW???
Thats so cursed
bro killed his voices
Yeah i pointed at that
Greetings everyone
hi bean
๐๐ฟ
๐
in skilling
its +20% per pow 10?
game really does not want to give me that sweet 5 digit number
soon
what??
Been like that for a week
when hitting 3 digits 
no
Soon
it changed after update
When lucky lad?
when i have candy ๐ฆ
W lava drops
its old
lol how
What how? I need 200 batteries for w4 splicer
you are not 2 steps ahead
He took 2 steps ahead but also went 3 steps backwards.
You donโt know me
For a slight moment he was ahead.
I am an enigma
I also became better
How tall are you
its secret
Guys can i skip stamps and alchemy
NO
is it needed
YES
Bean short confirmed
seems overrated and glazed i cant lie
kian is just ragebaiting
๐ซข
๐คก
I have the high ground (Iโm taller)
u can assume all u want
15 batteries for 12h candy dont sound very good
no dr?
My candy shelf goes away
or afk gains
Nuh uh
!!! INSANe bonus from this
noob
or high mk%
is bloque the best place to farm femurs before you have enough accuracy for w4?
Only people who keep their height a secret are ones who are insecure about it, which is short people
you do you
ez
stop bullying my bro bean
got it so i live here forever
yes
it's been 18 years
Then how how would I surpass him
not long enough
100 more
being a better person
im joking just spend a lot of money
You are joker or what
time to max a vial!
is lavaflame real?
Nah is ai
10hrs were enough, anotha maxed one 

How you think he is a solo developer
true
Btw can show me dk build
yeah one sec
Ok
me?
1 point in every talent first
yeah
54 atm, will easily get 60
damn you are cooking
oh oh new gem shop!!
yes dragonic cauldron too

Thx
THIS IS massive!
What dk lvl are you btw
I only need 2 more to fill family tab

Am lvl 135.........
im happy with my free oble
i got 4 of those
max orb first
and they are amazing for sampling
free reset for pet btw
Ok
whats the best spot for active bm for spice prog
Active or afk
why cant i find crabbo to trap? i am equipped with the silk trap and am at the salty shores map
Idk heโs my pusher I leave him sfk to unlock new worlds
have you completed the trap guy quests in w3
have you done the quest to unlock it?
complete the trap guy quest
u gotta do quest to unlock it
a lot of nerds here i see
4x info combo
wew thanks
Btw does leaving him on auto while my pc is open counts as active
Or do I need to be clicking the mobs them selves
that is a lot for 10hrs, can max this vial in 10hrs, again
yes
active just means having your game open while the char fights the mobs
how do i increase the cap on my printer?
about time you got it
as in sample size?
still don't have it, I need the gems
Yeah
imagine
Hi dark red neglect
can I get it as a 5th one and get even more
My printer can only make 30 mush caps an hr
I am the opposite of whoever that is
is it possible to buy?
nah ur gfood neglefcted
what world are you
idk im updating
@idle breach Pizza server 13
Damn need to wait for tomorrow now
if i trap frogs can i also trap crabs? or i have to choose one
w3
Time to get more gold peanuts 
rate new update
in lavas words ''7/10''
ok
dragonic is 10/10
bro fr ranked the update by it's limited time gemshop
true
not like he can max rupie slug anyway
The better your trapping means you can upgrade the trap which let's you put down more traps to catch more things.
so what happens if I click buy 
Also you have multiplw chars
up your multikill via deathnote, get more afk fight gain through cards/card sets, afk gains in flurbo shop, multikill pendant from flurbo shop also just more damage to reach more multikill
Do it
New prints after fixing vman 
ok i got it thanks sir
u get dragon couldron
i already have 4 tho
first 1k+
u get dragonic of nothing
That gets me more print?
for party dungeon w1 is it ok to solo and even if i cant reach the second or third boss?
it increases your kills an hour and thats what your print goes off of
Wpuldnt recommend since credits earnt is based on how far you get and your bonuses
there are ways to up your sample size but since youre w3 you wont really be able to do most of them
max the sample star talent
cant get a party and also ive no idea what upgrades should i prioritise on
Or atleast not quickly 
wow a piece of 
You can join me in a bit 
why bully the obol
because it's not dr
Want mine? 
sure
Cant have it 
damn
should i rank up the purples?
ill forgive you if you give me one of the top 3 companions from the new set
sure 1 rank
just once
You shpuld get w2 souls
Yeah i think so
already got them
first ion!
A whole 8 i see 
whats this do fam? dont i already have it linked if im linked?
it links the god you want from there
holy shit
oh dang so you can cahgne them without using the link power?
I just get free bubbles...
Ill be in dungeon w1 in 10min +/- want to join me then?
okay I got 2 hours to get my players geared up and skills levels up then resample
it scales up A TON
yeah you can change it whenever you want
especially with the new gambit bonus
NO WAY noway!
game didn't scam me, for the first time
my free rolls tmrw, praying on a sammy 
I got moltie from the free one..
lava gave free pet reset
what happens..there is smth there
click
click = 10000 free gems
eh its nothing, you dont gain rewards from it but its like an easier mode of the actual monument
does it still use up your multi and wisdom attempt?
uhh idts? you cant play it if you already did do an actual attempt tho
what
how can i increase this, i want 200 tentacle ๐
what is stopping me from taking a photo of when cards are uncovered
oh so its lamer
and you will have some abillities
alr time to attempt it and lock in
ty
does liquidvestment from equinox work with cranium cooking to boost capacity/rate?
yes
it does not auto boost
? lol
what do you mean by auto boost?
as in cc will raise the liquids to max capacity and then liquidvestment will work per it's normal function but will not be boosted by cc being active?
i could only reach this
I mean it won't click the button that upgrades capacity/rate of liquid cauldrons for you
lava got to 11 i think so its not bad
What does lava skull in rifts look like?
isn't hole in world 5? ๐
cant remember if its the red looking one or the black
like a lava skull in deathnote
its red
aight cool, forgot what it looked too far already
is lava gonna stop releasing hole content ๐ญ
never
he'll cancel hole as soon as I get a samurai
thats the wHOLE point of this game
these are W updates
get it?
for golden bread food (coin%) is it better to do W3 or W5 collo?
not for me im not even close to c10
too bad, world is not based on you only
doesnt matter hole is still op
Lava improved the scraping-hole's-surface experience too
tf does that mean
lava monument when
dw about it
also should i just buy all the conjuror pts from the gem shop im not really sure

