midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[dense egret]

I'm already getting bullied without it

[compact pagoda]

u don't play this game

ur here to troll people

[dense egret]

I play life

[compact pagoda]

it's fake

[west pilot]

Imagine

[dense egret]

I'm doing CC rn I need entertainment

[compact pagoda]

see other's agree

[ancient flame]

idleon players when getting a job jail is added

[turbid stump]

In the gen chat

[compact pagoda]

cry

[thorny zinc]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=ShadowAdv @dense egret i need review from you

[compact pagoda]

why him

[thorny zinc]

he is good

[compact pagoda]

he's a fake

[compact pagoda]

where proof

[dense egret]

Bro why would you send it here you gonna get pummeled

[compact pagoda]

ur a paid actor

[hard thistle]

Ser3ser got betrayed

[dense egret]

Atleast he gets paid

[turbid stump]

Not like it first time

[compact pagoda]

that's a everyday thing

[compact pagoda]

unlike u

[dense egret]

No u

[turbid stump]

Nuh uh

[compact pagoda]

so ur saying im right

great

[dense egret]

I'm saying your right is my left

[west pilot]

@thorny zinc why stick? Still on db?

[turbid stump]

Damn we are gen chat v2

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[compact pagoda]

why don't u upgrade dmg

[compact pagoda]

aren't

[west pilot]

Pst vman (actually) skills

[compact pagoda]

db

on db

where everyone

too lasy smh

[thorny zinc]

i really need to start skilling after goat ngl now i even have skill mastery💀

[turbid stump]

Went out for bread

[compact pagoda]

u should

[compact pagoda]

buy me butter

[dense egret]

Working unlike you

[turbid stump]

I have only for bread

[west pilot]

Get your vman skills up before that

[compact pagoda]

u got time to trash talk

[dense egret]

Oh you bet I got time to talk trash

[ancient flame]

need this bait on my vman to level my fishing faster

[compact pagoda]

instead go work

[thorny zinc]

okay then i will afk in equinox better than farming bones

[compact pagoda]

nuh db grind mandatory

get 2k dmg

u slacking otherwise

[thorny zinc]

2k?💀

[compact pagoda]

yes

[west pilot]

I mean you still need pretty basic ones

[compact pagoda]

u can get much more in a hour

[west pilot]

Cooking/breeding skyrockets progression

[compact pagoda]

do ur active

[thorny zinc]

so i should farm skilling afk on maestro and bones in the same time

[west pilot]

You close to goat?

[thorny zinc]

1 more day and its done

[dense egret]

Ronaldo?

[compact pagoda]

messi better smh

[compact pagoda]

click info

[dense egret]

Ah yes finally smth to beef about

[compact pagoda]

go work

[west pilot]

I would try to atleast work on breeding/cooking/trapping

[thorny zinc]

bro is nerding🤓

[dense egret]

It's 1am leave me alone

[west pilot]

And skilling when you can for mastery

(and fixing vman)

[compact pagoda]

55 is cursed

[thorny zinc]

okay

[compact pagoda]

u msged me

go cry

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/fighting-cat-cat-meme-cat-cat-hatred-funny-cat-gif-4202419400493427882

[west pilot]

Bro i laughed

[dense egret]

Y

[west pilot]

(no)

[thorny zinc]

what should be the minimum for others and for vman?

[compact pagoda]

what's ur div avg

around what level

[lunar basin]

pffft you can just 3d print skill mats

[west pilot]

Passive cards

[compact pagoda]

just get v man the highest

[thorny zinc]

okay

[compact pagoda]

rest can work their work up

[thorny zinc]

13-14

[dense egret]

Grammer at its finest

[compact pagoda]

go slave

[west pilot]

Usually you leave vman on 1 lvl higher than the lvl you need for your highest craftable tool

[compact pagoda]

why's this

[thorny zinc]

so 66 for mining for ex

[cold wraith]

so that you can get the hand bonuses while using the tool

[compact pagoda]

ohhh

[terse haven]

yippie

[long python]

tool tier doesn't even matter that much, minimal difference

[west pilot]

Yeah

[astral plank]

Whats the best way to get xp for skills on the secret class

[thorny zinc]

it will take a while ngl

[astral plank]

Im getting like 40k mining

[west pilot]

It's still a boost for stats

[compact pagoda]

anyway do u know the level 200 eclipse bonus ?

[compact pagoda]

candy

[long python]

just equinox fish, you can easily get your vman to lvl 60 in a day

[thorny zinc]

i dont have candies💀

[thorny zinc]

yeah prob best way to do it

[compact pagoda]

finally

[oak walrus]

Smh just get some

[long python]

also you're probably doing trapping wrong if anyone is under level 50 at w5

[compact pagoda]

go farm daily giants

go weekly reset

[west pilot]

Yeah. Gotta fix trapping tbf

[long python]

same for worship

[compact pagoda]

i need to fix trapping

[long python]

if you upgrade traps and skulls it should snowball pretty fast

[thorny zinc]

im still working on unlocking all critters

[oak walrus]

Smh just get turtle from sneaking and auto unlock all the missing ones

[thorny zinc]

lol

[long python]

are you using the drone for trapping? You just use hunter to slap highest tier critters on everyone is easiest

[compact pagoda]

drone ?

[thorny zinc]

yeah i use drone

but i didnt used the talent so far

[compact pagoda]

i should stop manually trapping

[west pilot]

Depends

[quiet crane]

p2w using drone

[west pilot]

If you want exp or critters

[compact pagoda]

critters

@turbid stump

[turbid stump]

Shouldnt tranqi give exp always on claim?

[compact pagoda]

why lurking

[cold wraith]

it does

[thorny zinc]

i was doing 20 minutes traps using drone for critters but im stuck at this one i need 5 more shiny critters

[cold wraith]

doesnt show up in the claim menu tho

[long python]

you just do critters until you finish the critter baron quest then you use natural traps on tuttle for xp

[west pilot]

Tranqi is not displayed

[compact pagoda]

thats passive xp

[thorny zinc]

yeah thats what i was planning to do

[turbid stump]

Ah got it; ty

Didnt know that

[long python]

did you unlock the alchemy bubbles for shiny critters

[thorny zinc]

yes

[compact pagoda]

how's ur r
trapping

[thorny zinc]

i changed them to 1h now it should be fine i need 2 more now

[long python]

you might just need more froges to increase hunter eff for shinies

[turbid stump]

Pretty good

[compact pagoda]

no

[turbid stump]

But need to reset my traps ngl

[compact pagoda]

20 min claims for shiny

[compact pagoda]

u reset them 💀

how

[oak walrus]

Using trapping food too yes?

[turbid stump]

I have some empty

[compact pagoda]

delete ^ Then place trap ?

[compact pagoda]

why empty

[thorny zinc]

shit i forgot about them

[compact pagoda]

bad

[turbid stump]

Got starfire traps on all, havent placed traps yet

Wanna place on daily teset

[oak walrus]

Cards, bubble and stamp too

[compact pagoda]

i dunno what's starfire

[icy mantle]

what level does this mean skilling or just class level?

[compact pagoda]

which tier craft

[cold wraith]

class

[oak walrus]

W4 yellow stuff

[icy mantle]

so dumb

[turbid stump]

Royal ones

W4 second traps

[thorny zinc]

what box should i focus next on vman?

skilling ones?

[mint rivet]

MAX THAT OUT, its necessary for shiny farming

[turbid stump]

Dmg mb for mob prints

[pastel portal]

like actually?

[thorny zinc]

isnt that useless cuz you print in speedrun?

[neat valve]

I need strength statues to get the monolith quest, whats the best way to farm them?

[oak walrus]

How many pens u have/get per dayish

[cold wraith]

does that prayer need every character to equip or just claiming bm

[compact pagoda]

why did u say starfire

[mint rivet]

yes actually

[turbid stump]

I dont see how that useless

[mint rivet]

I equipped it on every character since I gain no downside from it (shiny chance still 100%)

[cold wraith]

ah

[thorny zinc]

idk is there a way o farm them???

[west pilot]

The one who claims

[oak walrus]

Crystal farm beans with dk (needs choco chip to not be pain)

[turbid stump]

It will improve bit even if

[west pilot]

Crystal

[thorny zinc]

oh i cant crystal farm yet

[neat valve]

beans?

[thorny zinc]

i dont have the choco chip

[oak walrus]

Just kill stuff or afk skilling u know the usual

[oak walrus]

W1 bored beans

[icy mantle]

how many bosses do i need to kill to get the daily limit

[neat valve]

ohhh im an idiot i ment power statues

[mint rivet]

one hundred

[compact pagoda]

can anyone tell me trapping chat i forgot the cmd

[icy mantle]

will it take long 😔

[mint rivet]

and be careful, do not press the next boss button (that appears next to the health bar, when defeating a boss) WITH A MOUSE or anything that can double click, since it can count as 2attempts

[west pilot]

100

[mint rivet]

20mins a day for 70-80 gems

[icy mantle]

worth.

[west pilot]

It used to be 300

1hr or so

[cold wraith]

good times

got hella jewels with that

[neat valve]

how can i farm power statues? carrotmen?

[mint rivet]

it used to not have a limit

[oak walrus]

Used to be unlimited

[mint rivet]

so infinite bosses a day

[cold wraith]

just doesnt feel the same doing 100

[oak walrus]

Just told u

[neat valve]

beans dont drop it?

[oak walrus]

Crystal farm with dk at beans

[fallen ridge]

what world are you on?

[lusty bay]

~what breedability multi do yall recommend for lv7 on 15 pets

[neat valve]

4, semi late into it

[neat valve]

whats dk?

[fallen ridge]

better, how is your drop rate and what's your crystal chance on DK?

[oak walrus]

Divine knight

[mint rivet]

2 options:vman doing daily 100 amaroks
or DK at beans

[neat valve]

oh ok makes sense

thanks

[mint rivet]

np

any reason to go above 100% crit chance? can towers megacrit?

[strange flare]

active talents are set to level 50 in dungeons right?

[compact pagoda]

um guys whats the best trap for critters

i unlocked till royal

[strange flare]

royal is good

[compact pagoda]

alright

[strange flare]

for shinies I think

[uneven obsidian]

pure critter gain is 20min royal

[strange flare]

oh cool it's for both

[cold wraith]

ew

[uneven obsidian]

good for shinies too

[mint rivet]

depends what u want exactly, xp, critter amount, shinies

[compact pagoda]

critters

[strange flare]

go royal then

[compact pagoda]

as i need to get royal for other chars too

[mint rivet]

royal 40hr

[cold wraith]

i cant imagine checking trapping every 20 minutes

[compact pagoda]

40 hr

[cold wraith]

im glad 40 hours makes it claim by itself

[compact pagoda]

on all char or just one

[uneven obsidian]

i'm that bored at work where i can set a timer for it....

[cold wraith]

oh damn

i cant even wait 1 hr to claim farming

[mint rivet]

towers deal more dmg than some people in this chat

[royal nexus]

is this one-use?

[cold wraith]

kinda rare now tho people are entering w5 with 10m+

[cold wraith]

i made the mistake of buying that just to max all boxes a few weeks later

[mint rivet]

this channel is w3-w4*

[cold wraith]

yea meaning they had 10m in w4

its still crazy how vault changed early game

[mint rivet]

w3-w4

[oak walrus]

Smh most useless item in the game..... (probably not but u get the idea)

[cold wraith]

you know what im goingn to start a new account and get more dmg than that in w2

[mint rivet]

I wonder if Lava has a tendency towards adding another vault expansion

[cold wraith]

i expect a high five

[strange flare]

yeah considering you can have enough boxes to max every bonus easily with a choco chip and a half assed crystal chance

[mint rivet]

u got ur high five, now do it

[cold wraith]

um im a lil lazy

maybe next month

[royal nexus]

wdym?

[mint rivet]

I got enough pens to max every non miriad box, but not gonna do it, i leave it in atom's hands

[cold wraith]

im going to max it THIS weekend

[oak walrus]

Crystal farming = pens = boxes

[strange flare]

adding to the useless argument

[thorny zinc]

damn looks so clean

is myriad box maxed too?

[oak walrus]

No

[strange flare]

hell no

[oak walrus]

100000 boxes cap

[strange flare]

it maxes at like 100k

[thorny zinc]

damn

[mint rivet]

u got 40k silver pens?

[strange flare]

32111

[mint rivet]

damn u lazier than me

[strange flare]

wdym

I ain't maxing myriad anytime soon. Ill probably go 10k and chill

[uneven obsidian]

eventually

[strange flare]

I think it starts to scale worse after 10k

[mint rivet]

laziest of lazies

that base efficiency though

[strange flare]

at least you are half way there lmao

[uneven obsidian]

yeah but still another 207 days to go

[mint rivet]

lvl 30 atom?

[strange flare]

i almost got cts when I did just the 16k to get where I am now

[uneven obsidian]

at least it being base stat/eff makes it worth to work

[mint rivet]

are they temporary?

[strange flare]

no I just did 16k boxes in one sitting

that's 3 clicks per PO completion and a little mouse movement

so probably 30-40k clicks in one sitting lmao

[uneven obsidian]

its one of the thing worth swapping over to mobile XD

[strange flare]

i did do them on mobile after one of my wrists started dying

[uneven obsidian]

dead wrist after like 100 box ?

if that

[strange flare]

nah I think I did around 15k boxes before I switched to mobile

[icy mantle]

how do i hit megacrit

[strange flare]

do you have the talent with points in it

[mint rivet]

so if u get them , u have for life

[icy mantle]

this?

[thorny zinc]

finally

[mint rivet]

over 100% crit chance, and must have the talent that allows you to do megacrit

[strange flare]

reading hard

[icy mantle]

how do i get that

[oak walrus]

Library iirc

[mint rivet]

hard reading

[strange flare]

5th star talent in dungeon flurbo shop

[icy mantle]

i aint reading allat

[mint rivet]

i think flurbo shop

[icy mantle]

ty

[mint rivet]

no wonder u are here

[icy mantle]

lmao

[strange flare]

I know this so off hand because I literally just wrote a tip about it on my edit for the wiki page

[uneven obsidian]

feel great when you dont need points in overaccurate crit for megacrit XD

[strange flare]

yeah im there too

all my guys are like 400%

[uneven obsidian]

will have to check after the dragon statue change, but i know i'll be safe

[mint rivet]

hard part is getting that crit damage multi, I want to reach 14x through doing kchow statue quests

[icy mantle]

i dont have flurbos to get that book...

[strange flare]

I don't even have dragon statues

[mint rivet]

since my kachow is alr onyxed, and I should deposit

[icy mantle]

do crit chance effect afk gains for fighting tho?

[strange flare]

nope

[oak walrus]

Better do happy hour/s with the prayer on

[strange flare]

active only

[icy mantle]

so i only upgrade those talents when i play active

[uneven obsidian]

probably should wait for the next update and see how hard to dragon statue will be to onyx

[mint rivet]

am nowhere close to onyxing dragon as of rn too

[uneven obsidian]

dragon is a jail, depend on your dmg, mk and dr

and need to be done afk

[atomic flower]

greenstack picklebob

https://tenor.com/view/terraria-calamity-yharon-get-real-gif-20553133

[mint rivet]

just beat my old record by 130 waves!!

took 3 hours though

[icy mantle]

easy

[atomic flower]

show

[icy mantle]

😔

[atomic flower]

another cookie bait

[sick smelt]

Anyone for dancing achievement in town? Cookie Server 2

[atomic flower]

🍪

[thorny zinc]

coming

[atomic flower]

/e dance

[sick smelt]

need 2 more people

[atomic flower]

ask keith v2.0

[thorny zinc]

try #party-finder-👪

[terse haven]

coming

[low schooner]

i odnt think this is working, i have my shrines in w4 town and i dont get it out of town

[atomic flower]

dunno how that work

[low schooner]

so it just not working or..

[atomic flower]

that working but either not working...

[low schooner]

what?

[atomic flower]

[oak walrus]

Wdym u dont get it out of town are u sure?

[silver vault]

Best trap and time for shinys?

[sick smelt]

ping

[silver vault]

im up to royal traps

[atomic flower]

pong

[toxic quartz]

how do I work my vman's skills? he just struggles so much with efficiency

[atomic flower]

speedrun

[oak walrus]

Crystal talent to reduce xp needed then lvl him up

[toxic quartz]

what do I do with that

I mean skills as in skilling not talents

[atomic flower]

get more points

[toxic quartz]

I think I have invested what I need to invest in

[atomic flower]

he's support dmg type

[toxic quartz]

I'll try that

[terse haven]

how do you place shrines

[toxic quartz]

time to level crystallin

[oak walrus]

Icecream gives talent

[terse haven]

oh right im locked out of it til my character gets access to printer

(7th one)

[oak walrus]

Wdym

[terse haven]

made the dumb mistake to push with my 6th character

so the whole questline is done on it

and I need to do two bblueprint copies with it but cant

[toxic quartz]

do you know if toolbox or efficiency tracks progress on crys countdown

I know toolbox warns when you reach max

[oak walrus]

Let me check could have sworn there was something

[toxic quartz]

but does it tell progress in general

[atomic flower]

[oak walrus]

Ie should have it in vman skill tab

[atomic flower]

have struggling with catching?

[toxic quartz]

I think its just this

cant find if theres something

[atomic flower]

[oak walrus]

Erm I just posted a picture of ie?

Unless u need it on it

[toxic quartz]

oh im sorry I swear my wifi is so slow the messages got sent late

[toxic quartz]

havent tried much

started with chopping since my best tool was there

[thorny zinc]

how much does death bringer hat costs?

[mint rivet]

the teasing goes crazy

[atomic flower]

19.99$

[thorny zinc]

the hat not the robe

the one that was in the shop with gems

[atomic flower]

play ping pong game till getting 100K points

[mint rivet]

the day is over

[atomic flower]

sleep

[mint rivet]

Before 1 day of casually (not even focusing) hourly clicking

after

29 levels, and I click 11 bubbles, so that is 319 LEVELS!

[atomic flower]

not quick slap?

[mint rivet]

actually 12 bubbles, so 348

[icy mantle]

what am i supposed to understand from this

[mint rivet]

I don't produce enough monster mats to level up quickslap hourly, needs 1b

[mint rivet]

tower placement

[atomic flower]

max level towers putting like the picture

[icy mantle]

he didnt give any order tho

[mint rivet]

he doesn't need to

[atomic flower]

and good luck

[mint rivet]

its not like there are 22 towers

[white lintel]

That’s your end goal of placements

[atomic flower]

place electric first

[uneven obsidian]

by that time its assumed you understand how it work and can plan it out yourself

[mint rivet]

with atom clicks, that is close to 450 levels/day

[white lintel]

Use your brain?

[mint rivet]

chill man its not roo

[atomic flower]

i can use my brain that way?

[mint rivet]

peak

[white path]

now get it to 100

[atomic flower]

moraaaa

[mint rivet]

i need 90Q gaming bits or 2500 construct mastery

[keen parcel]

People have brains?

[mint rivet]

i get 1T from the casual claim

[keen parcel]

Now get max lvl 140

[mint rivet]

and my construction mastery is absolutely horrible

[atomic flower]

Lord of the pots

[icy mantle]

bro i just wanna get to wave 80 or at least 70 chill out idk shi about td 😭 i watched a video about goblin gorefest but that guy had a shit ton of buffs from everywhere so i was nowhere near for his strategy its so hard to do tower defense

[mint rivet]

towers higher than shrines is crazy

[atomic flower]

wait shrine can level up?

[mint rivet]

if u do that and not give a shi, ur gonna end up like me

[atomic flower]

do last one

[mint rivet]

check the screenshot with construction mastery, and observe the bonuses

[icy mantle]

how is 5th one alot higher than the first..

[mint rivet]

I alr did 3hrs of TD today, AM DONE

[mint rivet]

since I did one every week..and my poisonic went from close to lvl 60-to now 80

[atomic flower]

why not ? last one

[mint rivet]

same as almst every other tower

[uneven obsidian]

doing TD wave is more painfull than resampling

[icy mantle]

its not worth it to spend my worship bro

[mint rivet]

as I said, 3hrs of TD today alr, no more

[atomic flower]

wrong server

[keen parcel]

Then they lvl quick

[mint rivet]

am drained out

[atomic flower]

last one

[mint rivet]

nah, that vial can wait until I do my w4 souls and w5 souls vial

[keen parcel]

What you got?

[icy mantle]

21 lv poisonic elder

[mint rivet]

at least no boulders!

[keen parcel]

And what about party

[icy mantle]

25

and 17 kraken

i just wanna get decent amount of souls to craft stuff..

[restive heath]

Sooo does the 3d printer automatic store what it makes in my storage?

[keen parcel]

If boulder is lvl 34+ i think you can get close to wave 80

[compact lake]

can you use 2 of the same shrine on 2 different characters

[restive heath]

Thanks

[atomic flower]

🍪 bait

[mint rivet]

💀

[atomic flower]

?

[keen parcel]

The 100k boxes po?

[low schooner]

100% sure

[mint rivet]

i am not even done with most boxes, not on miriad grind yet, and yet this char has 80% of points unspent

basically what neglection looks like

wth guys

[keen parcel]

You know it also works in w4 town so it will be the same in any other area in w4

[keen parcel]

And if you got w5 artifact it works for all worlds when placed in town

[uneven obsidian]

here some real neglection

[icy mantle]

this guy didnt used voidinator should i?

[keen parcel]

Seems normale

[low schooner]

when im out of town my damage is lower

[oak walrus]

Place say hp statue in a non town map then go to a map without the shrine and check hp then place shrine in the worlds map and go to another map in said world to check hp

[uneven obsidian]

few click later, all fixed XD

[mint rivet]

according to my calculations, 2 weeks and it will be done-when I can finally enjoy endgame justice

[uneven obsidian]

voidinator wasnt out when that graphic was made

else they would have used it

[mint rivet]

still closer than the update about to come

[keen parcel]

On what char is it?

[low schooner]

dk

[keen parcel]

Do you have 1.5x accurrecy vs the mobs?

Since that would lower it

If you dont have it

[low schooner]

that would make sense

ty

[keen parcel]

Knew something wasnt adding up

[keen parcel]

Could test it by swapping to a differnt char and see if damage stays the same

[low schooner]

still lower out of town

nvm i used a char i was using in lab

[keen parcel]

Aan nice so solved

[low schooner]

ty

[icy mantle]

bro is there any guide for wave 50 on w5 td

[keen parcel]

Not that i know

[uneven obsidian]

#1277368276095336558 message

[oak walrus]

Gonna be honest just lvl up ur towers and make sure slow roast wiz is set up and that should do it (or follow that td guide)

[icy mantle]

ily bro

[icy mantle]

dont have slow roast wiz thats why im tryna do wave 50 on all defenses so i can get slow roast wiz upgrade

[oak walrus]

Ahh

[compact lake]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[uneven obsidian]

#bot-commands

[turbid stump]

If going purely for xp, vitality stance is better than tranqi right? If im doing lab/div jail for example

[uneven obsidian]

yeah if your staying on the altar

[turbid stump]

What if lab with goat? Then no?

[white lintel]

How TD works:
krakens and a frozone to perma stall enemies
Poisons: main dmg
Lightning: niche dmg or crit buffs
Void: savior
Like 10 parties in a corner: speed out the ass so your krakens have an easier time not being over run.

[uneven obsidian]

work if goat too

[turbid stump]

Ok, thank you

[steel sage]

Silly td question: some of the maps my krakens end up being only damage on bosses...how do I prevent that?

Cause too much knockback

[zenith hare]

move the dps so that it can hit the enemies at the furthest point back

so that no matter what, the krakens dont push out of range

[steel sage]

On w4 I had poisonic on the platform closest to portal but still lost range

[zenith hare]

then dont place them on the bottom row

iirc it being placed somewhere in the middle is best

[steel sage]

Which them?

[zenith hare]

yeah

one up from bottom is the stall location

[steel sage]

Where does void go in that?

[zenith hare]

right next to the portal

as with parties, void hits 100% of mobs

iirc only like 5/6 parties is needed

BM also allows you to hit every mob with some active play

[icy mantle]

yeah ik all that still i suck at strategies

[icy mantle]

all towers 50 is crazy thats why i cant progress enough

still got wave 50 tho time for w5 td

[zenith hare]

level 50 towers isnt particularlly hard tbh when youre mmid w6

[steel sage]

My void level is too low for that I think, I tend to need some knockback from krakens/freeze to hit everything

[zenith hare]

void doesnt gain attack speed from level

[icy mantle]

im like early w4 as autoreview tool says

[zenith hare]

level 1 void in construction is all you need

[steel sage]

I think it does gain range though

[neon ferry]

Wth does upgrading tachion prayer do?

[zenith hare]

the "latest" progression is what matters

[zenith hare]

nothing

[icy mantle]

so early w6?

[zenith hare]

every like 4 levels, its trash

[steel sage]

There's something that scales on total prayer level, +1 for that

[icy mantle]

im not even close to there but it says so

[zenith hare]

yes it helps but it genuinely isnt needed for 100% uptime on void

[steel sage]

Huh, I must be doing something wrong cause my voids don't hit everything without being near the stall even with parties being full speed

[zenith hare]

is the void in range of the parties?

[steel sage]

Not the focus of the parties but probably in range of 4

[zenith hare]

and theres your problem

parties dont care where theyre placed as long as it reaches every single tower and isnt where you want a different tower

[steel sage]

So the problem is my party starter level

[zenith hare]

yeah

or placement

[steel sage]

Cause they have a range of about 4-5 towers

[zenith hare]

solution is to move the parties to the left side instead

as the guide says right side, and people blindly follow the guides

• not inaccurate

[steel sage]

Should I bother trying w5 td when I got wave 50 on w4 with my tower levels?

[zenith hare]

tbh i found w5 td very easy

w3 and w4 i found hardest

[steel sage]

I think I've found roots hardest progresion wise

[zenith hare]

krakens fuck em up

[steel sage]

That'd do it

[zenith hare]

two long straight platforms

[steel sage]

I was trying to crack into it with just up to br when getting souls for skull upgrades

[vagrant kettle]

I have a question about breedability. I can't seem to get over level 5. Does it just take really long or am I missing some buffs? I've maxed out the upgrade in the upgrades tab

[steel sage]

Which reminds me of a bug report I could make...

[zenith hare]

it takes a VERY long time

[steel sage]

It takes exponentially longer, 4-6 depending on progresion in about max

[vagrant kettle]

@zenith hare are there any other buffs or just the one?

[exotic swallow]

its not all that serious

meme bean over yaps

[vagrant kettle]

Ok so the achiev for having level 7 is just stupid hard to get?

[zenith hare]

me when @fossil kayak and roro has the level 7 ach

[zenith hare]

i know of only two people who has it

[steel sage]

Breedability ten takes 2 billion days

[vagrant kettle]

Man I thought i just sucked or something lol

[exotic swallow]

no you are not

[steel sage]

7 is 421,000 which is at least reasonably obtainable

[cerulean axle]

Does this mean I am not getting more material? Why am I getting this message on IT?

[exotic swallow]

shoudnt worry about that if u got other things to work on

[vagrant kettle]

Level 90 cooking on the last 7-8 dishes is also a bit of a grind. I haven't even got the 20 more max levels yet lol

[steel sage]

Presumably you don't have atom collider so you should switch what you're printing, unlock/turn on ac, or spend logs

[vagrant kettle]

Two more questions and then I'll leave ya guys alone. Is there only the one breedability upgrade? And is there a list of all cooking bonuses somewhere? To make sure I am using them all

[steel sage]

There's 5 total I think?

Splicing, breedability, rarity of the egg, pastpres, and one more I haven't unlocked that's somewhere above level 50

[merry minnow]

guys i need help with breeding

this shit getting too laggu

[zenith hare]

turn on high perforamnce mode

yknow, the mode that makes it less laggy

[merry minnow]

o much better

[vagrant kettle]

@steel sage just to increase breedability speed, not new chance

[exotic swallow]

just wait until later waves

[merry minnow]

i thought its for high performance computers💀

[exotic swallow]

idleon brains are spewcial

[merry minnow]

damn rihgt

[steel sage]

Check idleon insight/wiki to see if there's others then

[merry minnow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1254555091352944763/1290474302365241386/ibeanwalkingonthescreen.gif

[steel sage]

But breedability speed is mostly active bm

[zenith hare]

no

[vagrant kettle]

I didn't even know insight was a thing. That's super helpful. Thanks a ton!

[brave swallow]

how do I get a lot of cooking speed with that one v man talent?

[vagrant kettle]

@steel sage I didn't realize bm affected breedability. Thanks!

[zenith hare]

BM is a 4x at most

[zenith hare]

you need to get a higher plate total level

at about 400 is when it starts giving bonuses, at 600 it starts to scale fast, at 1k its out of the atmosphere

[brave swallow]

ok so is there any way to speed up cooking speed without it so I can get to the point that it starts giving large buffs?

[vagrant kettle]

@zenith hare I'm not sure which of the bm abilities increase it. The power increase i suppose?

[dense pine]

diamond chef

[brave swallow]

what is that?

[zenith hare]

dia chef, atom collider, level up the other plates, the hole

[dense pine]

yellow bubble

[zenith hare]

its the vman enhance

[brave swallow]

alr

[oak walrus]

U talking this?

[zenith hare]

its utter trash, do not do it

[vagrant kettle]

I forgot about that lol. Thanks guys

[steel sage]

Blood marrow too

[zenith hare]

active on a different character will give you far more account progress

[vagrant kettle]

Better to farm bones instead? I just unlocked accuracy 3 today

[zenith hare]

read what i responded to

[steel sage]

That's the biggest one at max

[vagrant kettle]

Feel like I can finally move on to world 4

[zenith hare]

it was talking about other then the vman one

[steel sage]

Ah only read the direct reply not the whole chain

Sorry

[zenith hare]

thats the db progression line for now

[vagrant kettle]

Appreciate it guys.

I lied, one last question. Is breedability based on their power? Or each one just provides so much per hour?

[oak walrus]

Power doesnt matter

[graceful zephyr]

should i use my candy to power through rams xylobones to get equinox

[steel sage]

Do you have 20 greenstacks?

[oak walrus]

Xylobones?

U mean bloodbones?

[steel sage]

Xylobones in collo, easy to get confused

I rushed equinox a bit and could do basically nothing once I got there

[graceful zephyr]

not not even slightly close

i was told getting equinox makes prog'ing an mman wayyy easier

[steel sage]

The first ways to unlock upgrades that do something for the account is that, level 100 on all chars, wave 50 td up to w5, 5 maxed flurbo stats

[odd obsidian]

do you have the required efficiency

[steel sage]

Yeah efficiency is high

I'm around cloud 12 and can only successfully fish

[odd obsidian]

marble resources give a ton of exp, provided you can actually harvest them

[steel sage]

Yeah that's how I got my vman caught up to bb on fishing

[graceful zephyr]

guess this is a lot more endgame than i thought

[steel sage]

5% on the next easiest to gather is 500k mining efficiency

[graceful zephyr]

jesus

guess il focus on pushin w4 then

[steel sage]

Sewers, tree, equinox, and rift are basically dlc for their world

You can start getting useful progress in equinox and rift in w5

Imo you should get your maestro level above your skillers when you're salt locked on w4 tools

[wild dagger]

Hi guys
For NMLB
should i lvl the easy ones or keep them
+
How many meal I'll get to lvl up a day

[graceful zephyr]

guess im just gonna have a jman in lab for a long while

[icy mantle]

cant be happier bro

[steel sage]

No reason to focus anything for nmlb, the reason you focus bubbles for nblb is that difficulty isn't linear

[vital verge]

what do i buy

[zenith hare]

more you level, the less you need to rely on nmlb. just assume nmlb doesnt exist and youll be fine

[wild dagger]

I mean there are meals that will take 50h+
How can i lvl them with NMLB

[zenith hare]

plot of land imo

[zenith hare]

you need to level every other meal, which by then that 50 hour meal will become closer to an hour

just assume nmlb doesnt exist, do not pay attention to it and let it do its thing

itll naturally do the harder plates as long as you do that

[wild dagger]

Okay
Thanks a lot

[steel sage]

Focus your cooking on better meals to get bonuses faster, and quicker meals to increase your cookspeed, nmlb does not exist

Quicker as in cook time to next level

Oh also pushing level 11 for diamond chef

[fossil kayak]

ImTooPale and Stark both have it now too

[graceful zephyr]

what should i aim to achieve before pushing for w5? so far ive had my chars in the lab and theyre all about level 9 and ive had my dk do some random stuff but it feels like im very time locked. what are some presequities i should aim for to be ready for w5?

[wild dagger]

Lvl11
Most of my meal are lvl 34+

[oak walrus]

As long as they are above 11 and above 30 thats good

[white lintel]

You should have your lab up to killer brightside
Get all elite classes before focus pushing
Not really any other prereqs to pushing other than getting all elites, unless you’ve neglected something too much

[versed wing]

Is lab just painfully slow to level or am I missing something? Have lab boots but not the rings yet. Been pushing all day on all 8 characters and barely at level 10 on each, which considering I could be doing other more productive stuff, I’m not sure what I get out of it in the end.

[steel sage]

I dunno your progress so I gave a general answer, 30 for the atom upgrade might be relevant though

[wild dagger]

Okay i thought there are other things to lvl

[white lintel]

That’s not that bad for first day of lab

[versed wing]

Well I’ve been in world 4 for about a week, just neglected levelling it as I’m pretty sure I lose my bonuses when characters aren’t in lab and they could be pushing w4 to farm faster

[graceful zephyr]

ive been careful not to neglect anything too important with the exception of deliveries (i completely forgot about it till w4 💔)

[oak walrus]

U in w5 yet? There was that one artifact that boosts cooking speed based on pow of 10 turkey (but I asume u already doing that)

[leaden wyvern]

can someone help be beat the W3 dungeon I am soloing and getting to 25% HP on the final boss 😦

[fallen ridge]

do you still need help?

[leaden wyvern]

yes

[fallen ridge]

server?

[leaden wyvern]

cookie server 4

[steel sage]

Po isn't really worth focusing until dk with choco chip, just let vault upgrade run and spend the pens you get

Player time investment for doing it daily isn't worth it imo

[simple fable]

What is killroy

[zenith hare]

w2 town skull thing

[oak walrus]

W2 thing

[simple fable]

OH I see now

[compact pagoda]

real

[graceful zephyr]

so i should have my chars in lab for a while and maybe work on dn with dk for better prints?

[white lintel]

Just start pushing

[simple fable]

close

[graceful zephyr]

kk thanks

[viral vapor]

btw don't put in more than 1 on talent and the bottom 3 rows as well.

You eventually max out

[simple fable]

Noted my man, Will only be increasing the timer from now on

[viral vapor]

I forgot the other bits of wisdom irt the one on the right. It's listed somewhere in the pins I am sure 😆

[simple fable]

I'll cross that bridge when I get to it

[icy mantle]

can i a chive this when i hit 200 tent

[vital verge]

golden food meal is just peak

[white path]

yeah its really op

[zenith hare]

yes

[icy mantle]

2k blue salt to go 🙏

[pastel sequoia]

any breeding guide ?

[regal marlin]

Okay so when I'm setting a trap, I want my trapping effiency to be as high as possible. And then is the XP I get from the trap set at the time of setting or when I collect it?

[kind fossil]

when did i get this?

[cold wraith]

leveling your auto arm in construction

[modern gate]

green screen armor ⁉️

[cold wraith]

disgusting

[oak walrus]

Ew so bad

[kind fossil]

i thought it unlocks another toggle instead of a building, cool!

[oak walrus]

Except boots maybe

[modern gate]

I guess I triggered everyone with a single screenshot

[cold wraith]

pretty handy

[cold wraith]

for a good reason

[modern gate]

ah, looks much better!

WHY DO I NEED ALIEN'S DUSTED GREEN POOP SO MUCH

[cold wraith]

gets worse trust me

[zenith hare]

fyi lustre armour sucks

[modern gate]

NAH DAWN THIS IS TOO MUCH WHERE ARE MY REFINERY SPEED BONUSES 😭

[long python]

stamp and salt lick

[white lintel]

Stamp, salt lick, con mastery, lab node, red salt vial

[atomic fable]

Any idea why it's now letting me do full damage to the w4 boss immediately?

[modern gate]

you have to complete a challenge(es)

[long python]

con mastery is late game

[atomic fable]

Oh

[cold wraith]

eh not really

[long python]

Well, it's unlikely you'll get it before w6

[cold wraith]

well yea w6 is hella easy now and quick

[oak walrus]

True takes like 2 weeks for w6

[long python]

it's easy to get there but it's still annoying to get everyone to the last part of the map

[cold wraith]

of w6?

[dense pine]

eh i mean the last 2 portals you dont have to do everyone

[long python]

yeah, mostly because of the portal where you need 5 characters

[atomic fable]

idk what challenge I did that allowed it now that I think about it

[cold wraith]

why do you need to do that for con mastery

[dense pine]

...just 5?

[cold wraith]

am i forgetting something

[long python]

nah you don't, but it's as hard to get to that point of rift as it is to get to that part of w6

[dense pine]

def not lol

[cold wraith]

no?

you dont need 150m kills for rift

[dense pine]

i mean you can get to the end of w6 with pretty low stats, just a speed thing

[cold wraith]

you can place 10 characters for 5m kills

[long python]

isn't it rift 41

[cold wraith]

yea

[long python]

maybe I just didn't do intended progression order because no IE autoreview for steam

[cold wraith]

yea that sucks i wish they could change that

[zenith hare]

im bored

[white path]

me too

[zenith hare]

nothin to watch on yt, dont feel like playing games, dont feel like doing basically anything

[molten vapor]

who are the best afk fighters?

[zenith hare]

BB is the best

ES is next, then everyone else is the same

[molten vapor]

tysm

[cold wraith]

hit a pr

[zenith hare]

ES is only better when you get mk

well, better then the other 6 classes

otherwise its only bb being better

[atomic fable]

Finally got egg statue to level 20 😄

[zenith hare]

a pr?

[dense pine]

id say SB is the 3rd since SB can hit damage thresholds the easiest

[zenith hare]

by then es has the mk/t to a decent level, so yeah do agree

[zenith hare]

still no clue what a pr is

[cold wraith]

oh

nvm then

[astral lava]

Sup waffle

[cold wraith]

what wsa that

[astral lava]

Nvm that

[astral lava]

ANSWER THE SUP

[cold wraith]

suppers

[sleek pollen]

I like suppers

[cold wraith]

i think you like something else

starts with i and ends in dleon

[sleek pollen]

Idleon!

[white path]

calm down Waffle

[sleek pollen]

FreakyWaffle is back on the game

[cold wraith]

lore is needed

[zenith hare]

smh

[west garnet]

im not great at worship, I have pulse mage at 17- fireball at 12-boulder roller at 3-frozone malone at 1-stormcaller at 3- party starter at 1-kraken at 4-and psionic elder at 1. I need to reach wave 10 at the snowballs so i can start getting those souls. Any strategy tips?

[zenith hare]

use krakens

like actually, just spam krakens and you get to wave 10 easily

there is a far better setup

[west garnet]

i thought they did like no damage

[zenith hare]

but krakens carries to wave 10

doesnt matter if they do no damage if the enemies cant move

its also why you supplement 1 dps tower infront of all the krakens

[west garnet]

so id guess fireball to hit all the enemies

[zenith hare]

party starters to make krakens generate more minions too

no fireball is the worst tower in the game

pulse is better at crowd control then it

and pulse is bad overall

start leveling boulder then do this setup

hell can do that setup now, but will just reach a lower wave

boulder to 30, then move to leveling pois and kraken

[west garnet]

idk that ive got a tower to 30 yet

[zenith hare]

(this is an endgame setup, krakens are busted at all stages)

[west garnet]

ill give it a shot

[zenith hare]

right is full dps, left is out live every wave ever forever

like you stall so long that all the mobs from 181-190 are there at once, all being stalled by kraken and slowly dying to pois

to the extent that the boss wave times out (9999 seconds)

krakens are busted

[keen parcel]

Next week will be hell it is resample week next week

[median flax]

does anyone here had problem as well with getting the green stacks to count for the tome? i have 34 GS but the tome says I have 0

[keen parcel]

Not sure

Seems to work fine for me

[sleek pollen]

Try opening your storage or cloud save

[median flax]

I've done so many thins trying fixing it, but none of them worked

[median flax]

I've tried both...

[sleek pollen]

Argh fk

[west garnet]

just tried this, failed at wave 8

[sleek pollen]

Cloud save is usually my first, last and only answer to these type of problem

[west garnet]

but my boulder is too low

[deft cave]

im missing attacks alot what should i do

[median flax]

lol it was the same for me

[true hamlet]

Pump up accuracy

[deft cave]

how

[true hamlet]

Fisheroo, stamps, alchemy etc.

[deft cave]

wait whats fisheroo again?

[true hamlet]

If you're w3, 4 cards that give accuracy are sandcastles, neyeptunes, wood mushroom and veiny logs

[true hamlet]

W2 secret map clicker

[deft cave]

ohh

alright let me see

[true hamlet]

You could easily get 60-70% accuracy in a few days from it

[limpid lark]

Guys does the pet type matter for breedabiliy? Or just the power?

[true hamlet]

Pet type matters, not power

It increases the breedability of that pet

[brave swallow]

what are the best classes for doing dungeons solo?

[shut hull]

DK, DB

I prefer ES for w2 dungeon though because radiant chainbolt hits skulls easy

[brave swallow]

could siege breaker be good?

[true hamlet]

I don't really like DK, I'd say bubo over DK

[true hamlet]

I mean, i think I've done a full clear of w1 and 3 dungeons on all 7 classes successfully..

I'm only r43

So not crazy hypermaxed

[brave swallow]

ok so ig imma try bubo, ty

[true hamlet]

Don't go bubo if your mana pool is atrocious

You'd want like 200 mana so only use it if ypu comfortably hit it

[junior terrace]

is this good

[true hamlet]

Ye

[brave swallow]

ok so siegebreaker it is ig

or my divine knight

[true hamlet]

Seigebreaker and BM is like 225+ I can't really remember

Honestly, probably just stick with DK for a bit

Siege*

[brave swallow]

i have only like 79 mana in dungeons…

[true hamlet]

Ah..

[brave swallow]

do I just buy the upgrades for mana then?

[true hamlet]

DK or bubo (abuse the potions, can remove skills like sizzling skull etc.)

[white lintel]

More like mid game

[true hamlet]

I mean, it's kinda up to you, find a setup you like

[brave swallow]

alr ty

[little scroll]

what is the best place for grinding onyx in w4

[obtuse fossil]

clams

[little scroll]

thanks

[white lintel]

Flombeige

Actually clammies prob better

[noble vine]

So, just for future reference, how do I tell if and when I hit an actual wall with portals, and not just something I’d be better off suffering through than putting off

[hasty ledge]

What's the spawn chance per kill with the giant prayer active?

[uncut ferry]

stupid question the taste test skill can get new recipes right?

[true hamlet]

When it takes unreasonably long to push through

[noble vine]

Yeah but what even counts as unreasonably long? Is a little over 24 hours to push 250k too long?

[true hamlet]

No need to worry so much early on, just keep going

[shrewd hollow]

can you reset the bonuses in popy the kangaroo for free

[latent bramble]

Shows on your character info sheet

[ionic narwhal]

generally I stopped once I wasn't over 100% accuracy on a mob, or didn't have the kill doubler bonuses on

10k kills per hour is pretty solid

[latent bramble]

If I made a starting DR grinding guide, would you want any more info for a starting point?

[true hamlet]

Think of push worlds as just another grind, there are also other things to do throughout the game, it's about which takes priority to you, decided by how long it takes and the reward

[noble vine]

Fair enough, I just kinda got really really bored getting to the finish with BB yesterday and decided to farm out the last couple things for Anvil Tab 3

[ionic narwhal]

BB is kinda 😬 for pushing. nice for afk but until you get his master class you'll want to switch to another char for portals

[true hamlet]

It's w4

[ionic narwhal]

still sucks for w4 unless you're afking tbh

[hasty ledge]

Thanks 🙏

[true hamlet]

He seems like an afk pusher tbf

[zenith hare]

wrong

BB is the best afk pusher

that is fact

both has 0 surv issues and has highest afk kph

problem is active dk/es is faster if you active for 10 hours or more a day

otherwise bb is faster

[ionic narwhal]

yeah that's more what I meant lol

[zenith hare]

you also need auto loot to push well with dk or es

[ionic narwhal]

bb is the way for afk, but if you're trying to optimize speed you gotta start active

[zenith hare]

and also not play on a phone

so its very locked behind ur devices and ur monetary situatiion

so never ever say bb is bad for pushing

[ionic narwhal]

fair. still should probably swap off for rushing w5 though, that boss does not tolerate BB

[zenith hare]

used to, nowadays hes easy even on bb

[ionic narwhal]

oh damn vault really got to w5 too huh

[zenith hare]

damage was the issue before, weve gotten like a 4x damage increase since then

bb can kill kruk at 60m max damage

[true hamlet]

Not to mention extra boss dmg% from vault

[latent bramble]

you got any proof of this? I played around with it and was still struggling right up to 80m

up to 92m I could barely kill moles fast enough, mostly just sat on boss with all the new boss dmg% and ignored moles

if so, that'd be great, since a lot of people push with BB, but I'm struggling to find how else to do it

[long python]

DK is probably easier to beat kruk at that level of damage

[stiff jay]

I feel like ES is better than DK

[latent bramble]

yes, I've seen DK down at 20m now with vault's boss damage boost (and w1 rings), was about 30-35m before

haven't seen a new low for ES post-vault, prior to it was about 22m

[stiff jay]

My es at 50 levels lower with substantially worse gear is hitting numbers that my dk is

[coral arch]

Why cant i use Pet arena when ive used the Beast master ability? (just unlocked it. its active... my arena fight is grayed out!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

[long python]

for kruk? Nah, it kills the moles better if it's too weak to one hit them

[long python]

only works when arena is still open for the day

[stiff jay]

No just for pushing portals

Not sure bout bosses

[coral arch]

arena has limited time window, or have to use it before your first of the day?

[long python]

for pushing portals it's better to just div jail the ES to get to the 3rd god

[long python]

you have to use it before first of the day, it just lets you do it multiple times for 5 minutes

[stiff jay]

I’m to much of a noob to know what that means lol

[ashen tapir]

Can someone help me with a quest?

[long python]

w5 gives you a bonus that doubles all kill counts

[stiff jay]

Oh I’m still on w4 it’s going slow but I’m catching up in content I skipped over

[proven river]

does anyone know of a guide to 120 citric conflict for the eq dream? all i can find is 110

[timid cave]

Should be the same strat just higher levels and timing

[proven river]

seems not
the layout of minion towers is literally just too small to handle that many enemies so it can't be right

[zenith hare]

well youre wrong as every TD has an infinite setup

its all based on getting kraken to 0.35 speed

[proven river]

well yeah
but i don't think i'm using it

[zenith hare]

then maybe use it

as thats how you get past 120 or further

[proven river]

the issue wasn't that the mobs were dying, it was that i didn't have enough mobs

[zenith hare]

without them youre fucked

so you had a low amount of mobs and died for it?

[proven river]

i had enough to handle 110
but the poison towers couldn't kill 110-120 mobs fast enough for them to hold them back

[zenith hare]

btw: right is dps setup left is inf stall

[zenith hare]

then you arent using inf setup

the top left is the setup you should be using

[proven river]

where did you find that? it's not in any of the guides i've been using

[zenith hare]

its in a diff server that i have

pushes to 200

given thats endgame stats

but the same layout is used for any setup beyond 100

[proven river]

right ok

[zenith hare]

its just a manner of levels and how much speed from parties you do before damage

but that setup can hold off every single mob from the 10 waves at the exact same time

[haughty aurora]

how do i unlock 3d printer

[zenith hare]

construction

if you talked to the ice cream npc (the tutorial npc) youd know

[haughty aurora]

frick

forgot

[quick bane]

when should i start afking the kitchen for ladles?

[zenith hare]

when bb gets ab 500 ladles a day, and even then only do that once a month for a day

the afk in kitchen just gives very little for progress

at all stages of the game

[quick bane]

oh, idk when ill get there i just started w5

[terse haven]

how do I cook

do I send my barb to cook

[zenith hare]

did you talk to the npc?

and read the dialouge

[terse haven]

I did his quests but its still confusing

[zenith hare]

you press the meal and youre cooking it

its as simple as that

[terse haven]

bro dumped 4 different mechanics

[zenith hare]

to cook a new meal, press "new recipe" and make a new meal

[zenith hare]

oh no.

w5 has like 13, soon to be 18

[terse haven]

dont threaten me with a good time

[proven river]

i force-ran it when i got to w6 for crop evolutions and the gold food bonus and it did pretty good for me

[terse haven]

so once I evolve my barb I should put him in the kitchen right

[zenith hare]

you wouldve got all that via using 1 ladle at a time from the shortest to cook meal

due to blood marrow

which is like 100 ladles used to recatch up and level every plate like 10 levels or more each

[zenith hare]

god no

all that does is gives ladles, which is a waste of time to get early on

in w4, you should shove every char into lab after you get their elite minus the chosen one to push w4

main reason is this, but there are like 4 other equally as good bonuses

that you can get early on

[terse haven]

I got some hospital boots from the donuts, read it increases lab gains

that's the tube things by breeding right

[zenith hare]

its pretty small gains

its like a 5% increase

and yes

[terse haven]

+300 lab efficiency

[zenith hare]

yeah and when you actually equip it, youll notice how small of an xp increase it gives

[terse haven]

better than nothing tho right

[zenith hare]

early on base eff sucks as wis carries it all. later on when you have a bunch of all skill eff ups it starts to get better but eh

if you have them yes, but dont grind specifically for them

[terse haven]

now that I have a dk I can actually farm stuff easily right?

[zenith hare]

nope~

you need to set it up properly, and get ur dr as high as possible

and get ur crystal chance as low as possible

DK grinds crystal drops, ES grinds base mob drops

(the drops on the first table)

[dim lily]

Why are the big horned toads in world 1 way harder to get good afk gains I am world 4 one shooting everything up to the genies with a Dk

[zenith hare]

low move speed, lower mob density, low mk%, bad merit investments, not in afk setup, likely a few other reasons too

[quick bane]

what w4 gem shop things should i get rn, i have 600 gems

[zenith hare]

only get one kitchen thing as a must

rest isnt needed

[terse haven]

movespeed affects afk gains?

[zenith hare]

yeah

[mint glen]

yes

[zenith hare]

it caps out, but it does

scales with ur mob respawn and how large the room is

logic is: more move speed = you can reach the mobs faster = more kph

[late tiger]

do rift challenges have to be active

[zenith hare]

minus the specifically afk one, yes