midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[thin iron]

Kk. I’ve been trying to do stamps as I get them. they just take so damn long to get enough mats to upgrade them. Nearing platinum tools tonight

[lunar basin]

the first advice i ever got for the game was... get dimentia tools! wasted about 3 months on what shuold of taken a day or 2

[thin iron]

wtf are dimentia tools. Is that after plat?

[true hamlet]

Yeah

[thin iron]

Also I’ve kinda been just catching/gathering the highest exp I can find rather than quantity per hour. Just to lvl up skill.

Is that good or no

[toxic coyote]

cheap

[true hamlet]

Cheapest tools are the dreadlo lmao

[toxic coyote]

nah, just catch whatever you need, plus getting higher lvl catching might have you struggle with maestro

[toxic coyote]

nah fr, 0 salt cost is highway robbery

and starfire

[true hamlet]

And no funny stuff like shells

[toxic coyote]

lustre is the hardest for me atm

fricken g salts

lowkey I could almost get godshard

if it wasnt for salts

[indigo stratus]

when placing traps for trapping using the drone in w3 town, does it take my current character skill or the one who i am placing the trap for

[shadow grotto]

I have lvl 50 on my skillers

[true hamlet]

Current

[toxic coyote]

current char

[indigo stratus]

oh sweet ty !

[true hamlet]

Place on bm/vman

[toxic coyote]

ur cooked for your maestro

[shadow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[true hamlet]

My maestro sucks tbf

[thin iron]

I know nothing about the secret class, my 750 lvl (8th character I think) is available. Should I do that for that one?

[shadow grotto]

I have Maestro I gotta get level 57 mining😭

[toxic coyote]

same 😭

[toxic coyote]

exactly

[toxic coyote]

I did 7th Jman, honestly doesnt really matter which char, as long as you got one

[true hamlet]

But my vman is busy getting to div 50 because it definitely does something

[toxic coyote]

this is cooked

vman btw

[thin iron]

What did you mean getting higher lvls would hurt the jman though?

[toxic coyote]

how does vman out-scale construction aganist dk again?

[lunar basin]

you can use divinity pearls on trapping if it helps before you get lv50?

[shadow grotto]

Cause jman if you get hgher skill level get bonuses

[toxic coyote]

maestro beneifts if their skilling level is the highest

having your other chars have higher skilling level means more work to push your maestro to the top

[thin iron]

Oh. So I should start that sooner than later ><

[toxic coyote]

what world you at

actually nah, you only need maestro

[white lintel]

honestly you dont need left and right hand for a while, though it is useful

[full beacon]

they do get like 350% skill exp though, so it's not too bad outpacing everyone else

[thin iron]

I candied my way to the class upgrade in W4 on my 7 characters and have no plans going back anytime soon.

[true hamlet]

Prob a bit early

[white lintel]

yea but mman has like no eff so he has to make up for that

[lunar basin]

best order is warrior archer mage warrior archer mage warrior archer mage vman

[toxic coyote]

I mean starting maestro line aint a terrible idea, you just not getting any beneifits for awhile

[thin iron]

Man doesn’t even know what eff is ^^

[shadow grotto]

How do i get tons of efficiency fo r maestro

[lunar basin]

sorry i just like saying stupid things lmao

[toxic coyote]

nah it's true mman has terrible eff

[toxic coyote]

stamps alch

[thin iron]

So wtf I’m doing xD do I make my 8th character my 3rd mage. Or secret class

[white lintel]

later game things you get after reaching w6 like skill mastery

[toxic coyote]

I have 3 beginner

[white lintel]

do you have 2 Dks yet?

[white lintel]

why?

[thin iron]

Yes.

[white lintel]

secret class

[toxic coyote]

I dont wanna risk hehehe

[white lintel]

youll want a second DK or at least a second squire

[lunar basin]

ONLY if youre ok with your character menu being unorganized!

[toxic coyote]

idk, what if new stuff buffs construction or refinery

oml vault

[white lintel]

second squire is a perma 2x con speed

[thin granite]

yo how do you get high mining effiency

[toxic coyote]

there is no organized order in the first place

[thin granite]

im struggling with getting void armor

[toxic coyote]

con can wait, hehehe

[lunar basin]

aesthetics brother aesthetics

[rugged blade]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=eff

[white lintel]

no, con is very important and can take time to ramp up, you should focus on your con

[toxic coyote]

aesthetics my ass

[white lintel]

main stat, cards, talents, stamps, alchemy

[toxic coyote]

I mean it's lowkey not even terrible I can honestly wait

[white lintel]

whats your con speed?

[toxic coyote]

like 400k ish

[lunar basin]

you saying you got a pretty tushy 😂

jkjk

[white lintel]

you need a second squire

[shadow grotto]

Whats con

[white lintel]

construction

[toxic coyote]

I dont need 800k con if im saving on salts

[white lintel]

how is that saving on salts

[toxic coyote]

building buildings?

[white lintel]

so your refinery is shit?

[toxic coyote]

hell yeah

[white lintel]

fix it

[toxic coyote]

I am, first thing im doing is saving salts

[thin iron]

I’ve got 2 mage, 2 ranger, 3 warr. So you’re saying secret class 8 then another mage>ranger for 9/10?

[white lintel]

omni, lab node, stamp, con mastery all increase refinery cycle speed

[ocean belfry]

i just noticed but, does world 3 not have a crystal mob? i once encountered a crystal sheep on the sheep map.

[shadow grotto]

Is this good for early w4 working on alchemy using guides on here

[toxic coyote]

omni god?

[white lintel]

yes, equip it on pocket div

[toxic coyote]

I just got goat today 😭

[white lintel]

good

[ocean belfry]

oh it was the crystal sheep. OH THOSE WERE SLOTS. I didn't notice it tyty

[white lintel]

also, what was your div points per hour, and blessing lvls and avg div lvls

[toxic coyote]

tf does omni do again? chance for afk hours to other skills?

[toxic coyote]

avg: 20
div: 600/h
no fricking clue what a blessing is

[white lintel]

chance for = afk time from claim into gaming, sailing, cooking, breeding, refinery, 3D printer

[white lintel]

the thing you upgrade when you click on a god

[ocean belfry]

damn 2 secret class?

[toxic coyote]

uhhh pretty low cuz my money, bits, and sailing all suck

I'd say like at least lvl 10 on everyone?

[white lintel]

ok

thanks

[toxic coyote]

wait why did you need that again

[white lintel]

working on a early w6 guide and am working on getting an optimal strat to rush omni so people can get their refinery to not be shit

[toxic coyote]

2 vman is cooked

[toxic coyote]

real

[white lintel]

what do you even need to save salts for

[toxic coyote]

diabol armor

• tools

[rugged blade]

dont push me or ill make my 2 beginners vman as well

[toxic coyote]

your funeral 😭

[toxic coyote]

to be fair, I might've pushed too fast

it's not like my refinery is shit cuz I didnt do it

[bronze moth]

lmg what's ur stamp lvl

[white lintel]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[toxic coyote]

4k

[bronze moth]

i'm catching up

[white lintel]

diabolical armor is mega shit

[toxic coyote]

good

[bronze moth]

3k rn

[toxic coyote]

I still need it other armor (marble)

• tools is epic

[storm heath]

is there a way to craft more bulk items in the anvil aside from holding craft button?

[bronze moth]

i feel like void is enough

[toxic coyote]

what's ur wood print

[lunar basin]

thats a cool account build tho

[bronze moth]

still 60k haven't resampled yet

[toxic coyote]

that's cooked

nah ur completely deep fried

charred

[white lintel]

no, diabolical is the last of its line, troll-> magma->kruk-> marble-> GS is the line up

[bronze moth]

lmao with all the improvements I'm making it's probably gonna like double soon

[toxic coyote]

oh shit did I see wrong

[bronze moth]

i upgraded my royal sampler

[toxic coyote]

common idleon issue

[bronze moth]

idleon players have reading issues

[toxic coyote]

ah shit

[rocky oak]

does this mean theres a 1/68 chance every time i kill a mob?

[toxic coyote]

I lowkey thought I only needed like 4k nullo and I'd be done

turns out im completely cooked

[toxic coyote]

thank you for reminding, would've made lustre

[zenith hare]

update when

[toxic coyote]

ok I can still make the tools

[white lintel]

dont worry about making troll armor until you reach like leaks or something, and you dont need to save your other salts to make nullo salts, work on your refinery and use your salts to make stuff you shouldnt run out unless you overspend

[toxic coyote]

im still gunna save salts

but at least I can make like dreadlo tools without have the salt price tag

hooray

[white lintel]

never

[toxic coyote]

forge speed how, my bars are slow

oh wait, nvm I could just use all my slots, I was avoiding that cuz I was low on ores

[river vine]

Hey, so I'm asking in here because it's W4 specific. Does the DK orb work on the W4 colosseum or is it only functional for W1-3 colosseums? (I know W5 and W6, DK orb does not work)

[atomic fable]

Is it worth it to craft the w3 splicers?

[visual light]

Whats the easiest item to get one million printer sample on?

[white path]

Not gonna be today or tomorrow

[rancid ivy]

Just unlocked the fishing node in the Equinox, I now understand why most guides I read would reccomend it first for leveling fishing

[toxic coyote]

logs

[atomic fable]

I earlier used equinox to level up chopping on my ES to 75

[lunar basin]

lol LMG you know how yu said idk what efficiency is so explain how i have 10 sets of lustre armor

[toxic coyote]

I didnt say you didnt know what eff was . . .

[lunar basin]

o lol sorry someone was talkin about armor

[toxic coyote]

I just said eff on mman is hard

[lunar basin]

haha im just joking lol

man i spent like... 6 months getting that armor lol

[toxic coyote]

also why do you have 10 sets of hot garbage

[lunar basin]

i thought it would go luster > star > dread > godshard LOL

[toxic coyote]

nah

[lunar basin]

im contender for one of the least efficient players for sure

[toxic coyote]

rip g salts

[atomic fable]

So, I should go for troll armour as soon as I can?

[atomic fable]

I think that's for tools if I'm not mistaken?

[storm heath]

what island should i go next?

[lunar basin]

only if you want to save yourself tons of time and effort

[toxic coyote]

someone said until leeks

[toxic coyote]

here

[atomic fable]

Once at leeks, magma?

[lunar basin]

i loved seasalt island but i would NOT take my advice if i were you

[atomic fable]

Oh, Alright, so void armour works until I'm further in w6

[white lintel]

its hell expensive, so I wouldnt focus on it until your refinery is built up

[haughty root]

seasalt is more useful than the others

[zenith hare]

for the most part

[lunar basin]

void armor is pretty damn good its probabl close to chizoar but without the buffs?

[zenith hare]

it's like chiz but without the good parts

as defence doesn't matter due to food

[atomic fable]

Is chiz armour maybe worth it or not really

[lunar basin]

if you sample void you could reprint it when you get w5 upgrade stones?

[zenith hare]

very worth

[toxic coyote]

I dont like chiz armor

[zenith hare]

the problem is you getting void in w4

[storm heath]

do i need seasalt island? im currently w5 but i pretty much rushed everything on pushing so im trying to upgrade my alch, etc

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[zenith hare]

yes it'll help a lot on ur mman

[lunar basin]

you should have dimentia by world 3

[zenith hare]

God no

[lunar basin]

lmfao

[toxic coyote]

I mean I did

but plat is good enough

[zenith hare]

and amarok is even better and cheaper!

[haughty root]

you need seasalt for w6 crafting

[toxic coyote]

I thought he meant tools, but ig they both work

[lunar basin]

with vault you can use no armor up to at least moonmen no food 100% survival

late w2 naked

[zenith hare]

with food I can sit at guardians while in db wraith form

[lunar basin]

with spear/wand/bow hitting thousands

[zenith hare]

and have 100% surv

even if I'd die 100 times over

in one hit

[toxic coyote]

I only get like 100 def from vault I dont think that's enough for late W2

[lunar basin]

with food we're talking about someone with 0 bags 50 food capacity

[haughty root]

i think people overstimate the impact of vault very early on.. you dont have enough money to make that big of an impact that early into w1 and w2

[lunar basin]

no food

[zenith hare]

vault gives more cap

[noble vine]

Is it supposed to take 30 hours to do 300k kills at the end of W4, because I’d rather do literally anything else

[atomic fable]

I see how chiz gear can be useful, it's void armour with buffs?

[zenith hare]

it's supposed to take like 100 hours to do that

[lunar basin]

ya but anyone can survive anywhere with food im saying no food lol with vault you can survive no food 100% survival

[toxic coyote]

sounds about right

[zenith hare]

should be at like 2.5k kph or so

[noble vine]

To be fair it’s BB

[zenith hare]

you have over 3x that

[zenith hare]

the 2.5k was what my bb had

[toxic coyote]

I had 12k on jellyfish I think

[zenith hare]

with lab node

[toxic coyote]

yea

on bb

[noble vine]

The vault is just fucking silly. This machine pushes portals

[zenith hare]

makes early pushing easier so eh

[noble vine]

Yeah, I’m just sitting here, maxed out on the damage it gives, plus the best weapon I can make

[toxic coyote]

my damage is dog water

[noble vine]

Still feels super cursed having come back here having dropped it in this very world, with no anvil tab 3

[zenith hare]

if its above 1m you're fine

[toxic coyote]

I can barely push W6

[zenith hare]

that's normal

[haughty root]

just play idleon with only 1 character. you get to feel the grind like the good ol days

[toxic coyote]

I only feel pain

[zenith hare]

w6 needs 9 chars to push

[noble vine]

Honestly the only reason I care that it’s taking a while is that I know Divinity will suck

[toxic coyote]

wait why

[zenith hare]

it is physically impossible to do without

[haughty root]

or 1 character and 8 vman

[toxic coyote]

no it's 9 char 1 vman

[zenith hare]

sky doggies has a 9 char lock

[toxic coyote]

ofc it does, im completely cooked!

[zenith hare]

they mean solo pushing, as vman speed run counts as one

[shadow grotto]

Is 3,5k copper ore sample good

[toxic coyote]

oh right mb

[toxic coyote]

I think that's good for early W4

[atomic fable]

if I was to use speedrun, I'd only need to push 8 characters?

[zenith hare]

early w4 yeah

[zenith hare]

as long as one char had cleared the player lock

[haughty root]

vman is a free skip since he unlocks your furthest characters portal

[rustic oriole]

is there a secret to leveling alch, halfway through w4 on pusher and highest alch level is 25

[zenith hare]

getting to w6

that's the secret

[toxic coyote]

wait how

[zenith hare]

it's called bubo

[rustic oriole]

so just ignore void armor/weapons

[toxic coyote]

frick my bubo is shit

[zenith hare]

and you get tentieye 200 just about by early w6

[toxic coyote]

😭

[rustic oriole]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[atomic fable]

I don't have it yet and I'm early w6 😭

[toxic coyote]

same 😭

[zenith hare]

yeah, you get it during early w6

not by starting early w6

[noble vine]

I’m almost at the end of W4 and sitting at about level 40. How’s your vault looking? Specifically the part about Alch XP?

[atomic fable]

Oh, that makes more sense now

[rustic oriole]

everything is up to the point of black coins

[zenith hare]

i miss when void coins was hard to get in w4

[noble vine]

We can go even further beyond

[zenith hare]

had like 3 by end of w4 total

[atomic fable]

Is my auto review rating really good now for where I'm at? (Late w5)

[zenith hare]

mayhaps

[noble vine]

Uhhhhh idk?

[atomic fable]

Just missing sailing, vials (4 left) and statues (1 left)

[toxic coyote]

mine is like mid W2 or someting

[noble vine]

I have no idea if it’s been updated with vault stuff yet

[zenith hare]

bubo go brrrrrrr

[zenith hare]

it has

[noble vine]

Oh then absolutely not up to what the Vault is cooking

[toxic coyote]

I could careless about auto review

[shadow grotto]

Is 7.72k oak logs good sample

[zenith hare]

im doomed

[noble vine]

Like half my characters are naked and beat the hell out of the first 3 worlds

[zenith hare]

the word effort is on the screen

[haughty root]

relatively speaking it can be

[toxic coyote]

damn that is cooking

[toxic coyote]

for early W4 it's good

[atomic fable]

This is where mine is currently for auto review

[compact lake]

I feel like I'm getting way less shinies than I should be. what are all the way I can increase shiny chance

[zenith hare]

claim the traps more often

[white lintel]

use the prayer

[zenith hare]

shiny critters is obtained per trap claimed, not per critter caught

[haughty root]

orange salt vial, golden wool vial

[zenith hare]

1 per trap, shiny prayer gives more

[atomic fable]

is this bad?

[zenith hare]

cant see the sections so no clue

[atomic fable]

Sections on Late w5 and current map progression

[zenith hare]

smithing and starsigns you can do

[atomic fable]

Smithing is out of early w6, this is a bit outdated

[zenith hare]

other then that yeah id say good

[haughty root]

it was, in fact, not my time to shine

[shadow grotto]

How do i grind statuew

[atomic fable]

Is it worth trying to max out smithing entirely in Early w6?

[toxic coyote]

too early for you

[zenith hare]

you dont for a long time

[compact lake]

which

[zenith hare]

its fine to, if you have the free time

[compact lake]

good idea, thx

[zenith hare]

shiny snitch prayer

makes shinies less frequent, but gives more per time you get some

[noble vine]

Oh wait I probably should ask, since they weren’t there when I left:

How do I get more cooking ribbons

[zenith hare]

you got urs via the event. normally you need DB to get em

[noble vine]

Damn

[zenith hare]

which is early w6

[atomic fable]

That's my furthest map on any character

[noble vine]

Well I figured they had to be event bonuses

[atomic fable]

I've not pushed past it

[potent relic]

Is anyone trading pet? I can use the pet c.custard or ram to trade pet rift.

[noble vine]

I dunno it would be kind of cool if any of the W4 skills were actually interesting to work with

[zenith hare]

#pet-trades

also tends to be people dont trade for a lower tier pet unless its a t1 pet

[haughty root]

cooking and breeding are actually interesting once you arent so time locked on them

[zenith hare]

they are once you get every main elite class

[haughty root]

w4 skills are actually w6 skills in disguise

[zenith hare]

lab is locked by cooking progress, which cooking is locked by breeding progress

[atomic fable]

Once I finish the level 75 lab, do I keep them in lab or move them back

[zenith hare]

do you have enough chips to take advantage of it?

if not: honestly stop now

[atomic fable]

I only have 5 chips at the moment

[zenith hare]

as 75 is ONLY if you need the chip slots

which every god damn person forgets to mention

[atomic fable]

I guess I can do level 75 lab for skill mastery?

[zenith hare]

youll do it eventually later anyways

and itll only get faster

[atomic fable]

True, I thought to do it alongside divinity which was originally part of Late w5

[shadow grotto]

Where is a site to explain how to get stamps

[zenith hare]

!wiki

[candid scarab]

Here is the link to the Legends of Idleon wiki. It contains incredibly valuable info that will help you progress faster and more efficiently! https://idleon.wiki/

[haughty root]

i tackled the lab by putting everyone in there and quitting for 6 months

[white lintel]

?wiki stamps

[paper tusk]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/stamps

[noble vine]

Honestly makes sense given how slow those things are. And that lab is the introduction to Mandatory Time Sink Gaming, five seconds before Divinity does it again

[low arrow]

Pro gamer move

[toxic roost]

hey chat should i push w4 with a bb or dk?

[rustic oriole]

es 🙂

[haughty root]

dk

[low arrow]

Dk get more acc

[noble vine]

If you have loads of accuracy, DK. If you don’t, BB

[toxic roost]

should i lvl up the ability that boosts defence and acc and decreases dmg?

[toxic roost]

my acc is honestly low-ish 😭 😭

[haughty root]

you get plenty of accuracy without needing to nerf your damage

[toxic roost]

what acc should i aim for?

[low arrow]

That plus the other that boost dmg if you pass the acc req are nice

[haughty root]

1.5x the required accuracy for the monster

[noble vine]

The very end of the map is 16K

[low arrow]

Or if you got alot then na

[rustic oriole]

you dont even take the top right skill on dk

[haughty root]

25k accuracy for w4 on DK

[toxic roost]

thats gonna take a while to get dam

issue is bloaches to upgrade the acc bubble

[haughty root]

nah just put precision prayer on

[noble vine]

Buuut 16K is doable if you spend the gems on card slots

[rustic oriole]

precision prayer, stamps, bloachs

[toxic roost]

i have the card slots so yea

[rustic oriole]

all card slots

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed
w4 needs 15k acc by the end of it

[toxic roost]

yea

[low arrow]

Acc cards plus player

[atomic fable]

This bubble can help with accuracy

[toxic roost]

yea ik but the issue is bloaches

[zenith hare]

not much

[rustic oriole]

bloaches are slow to get early

[noble vine]

Oh and don’t forget your tools do have stats. iirc the upgrade slots max out at platinum, but iron is fine

[toxic roost]

noted noted

[atomic fable]

Oh, it falls off late game?

[zenith hare]

it sucks early game

[atomic fable]

Oh

[zenith hare]

its good mid game, and acc isnt an issue late game

[rustic oriole]

if you have your magfe apply the purple upgrades itll give the dk items wisdom

[white lintel]

its just a lot harder to utlilze early game with all the new things

[atomic fable]

so I shouldn't upgrade it further?

[rustic oriole]

which gives acc

[white lintel]

shouldnt be a concern

[regal marlin]

For the Divine Knight King of the Remembered, if I have two Divine Knights, does it just take whichever has the higher level in the skill? It looks like it works for everyone given the UI of the 3D Printer but doe I need the skill on both?

[toxic roost]

yea my fishing minigame is low lvled a lot 😭

[atomic fable]

Alright, I could stop at 100 for the vault upgrade

[noble vine]

God I have Nam flashbacks to my old account getting softlocked on Bloaches because I didn’t read BB skills correctly

[atomic fable]

since the coin bonus for that caps at level 100 bubbles

[storm heath]

should i put all of my postbox on alch for all of my char?

[noble vine]

“Worming Undercover totally is a passive abilit right”

[zenith hare]

"softlocked"

[haughty root]

my shaquracy is level 12 and ive got 80k accuracy in w5

[noble vine]

Half the rate it should have been

[zenith hare]

thats just no fish food

[noble vine]

But yeah for a while I was just convinced god hated me and only wanted me to stop at 5 bloach samples

[haughty root]

by the time you can sample bloaches u dont rly need bloaches lol

[noble vine]

Yeah. Yeah.

[haughty root]

bloaches are annoying

[atomic fable]

Oh, am I at the point I don't need bloaches?

since some of my characters can each 500k+ accuracy

[noble vine]

Definitely feels like the type of resource you just hoard in one sitting for ages and hope you never have to think about again

[white lintel]

check your acc and see if you need more

[atomic fable]

This is my stats on ES, It has over 600k accuracy

[noble vine]

Maybe? I dunno you’re officially in the Silly Number Zone from my perspective

[haughty root]

you will need bloaches for refining but you will never struggle for them after w3

[white lintel]

youll need more acc for pushing w6

but you cna just get more stats

[atomic fable]

True, I still don't have mk in w6

[rustic oriole]

does king of the remembered work on all prints or just DKs?

[regal marlin]

Does cooking level only matter when you're standing in the kitchen? And does it actually increase the speed of cooking or what?

[noble vine]

Honestly the more I think about it, the more bloaches feel like the Bargain Tag tutorial

[white lintel]

all

[atomic fable]

I should level up this bubble more for my mage class ones?

[rustic oriole]

is it worth to have an active up to 10k kills fast?

[atomic fable]

as an example

[white lintel]

why the hell is that not lvled up

[viral vapor]

Level everything up always

[atomic fable]

I was focusing on purple bubbles since it had the class discount bonus

[haughty root]

?

[noble vine]

Cooking goes at the same speed at all times, except for upgrades. You need to AFK there a while to get more ladles, but honestly getting all your kitchens should be fine through W4

[viral vapor]

Mine isn't that leveled up either because water is very sad, and I'm trying to get all the print stuff first

[atomic fable]

Was able to get +9 levels

[rustic oriole]

ok how do you fix mana on every character that isnt a mage

[atomic fable]

Once I can get active bubo setup, I should focus on levelling up the total stat bubbles

[noble vine]

I just don’t put all my skills in the skill bar while active

[haughty root]

well warriors need wisdom for accuracy

[viral vapor]

Stamp is huge, mp regen is a %age of your max mp so those stamps that increase it do wonders.

[haughty root]

and you can safely max mana on tab 1 for every class ur not gonna use all your tab 1 points ever

[white lintel]

mana pots

[noble vine]

And also some skills are just straight up wastes of mana that go off when nothing’s there

[rustic oriole]

tried mana pots still was draining them like no tomorrow

[atomic fable]

This is me right now on ES

[regal marlin]

so cooking level only gives you ladles?

[haughty root]

very early on world 1 i used the alien headgear lol

[haughty root]

looks good

[vital depot]

LF help with king doot miniboss

[noble vine]

I bet you five bucks you’re on one of the Archer classes and one of the skills is doing nothing

[white lintel]

cooking levels dont do anything, youll want to focus cooking eff

[rustic oriole]

Ok send me $5

[noble vine]

Fuck

[regal marlin]

does my cooking effiency affect cooking speed or just ladles?

[haughty root]

show your tab 1 skills

[viral vapor]

ladles... which is speed!

[noble vine]

Wait how on earth are you there with basically no wisdom

[haughty root]

remove afk gains while active farming and put into mana

[viral vapor]

He's using the squire acc thing + vault

[rustic oriole]

character has 400 wisdom

[regal marlin]

so cooking just happens on its own, but I can afk in the kitchen to earn ladles (at a rate of?) in order to use the ladles to speed up the kitchen?

[rustic oriole]

im about to swap to other character thats why its still on

[viral vapor]

exactly

[regal marlin]

do I earn more ladles the more efficiency I have?

okay

[viral vapor]

Yea, it's like the kitchen is a node and you're mining for ladles

[regal marlin]

feels like a weird skill

[shadow grotto]

How do i get more wisdom on warriors

[viral vapor]

Alchemy

[shadow grotto]

I got max 5k acc

[rustic oriole]

stamps alch bubble wisdom in tab

[atomic fable]

This is 1 option for more wisdom

[rustic oriole]

gear with mage upgrade

[noble vine]

I have barely much more than you. What’s the hotbar look like

[urban moth]

is there a breeding guide anywhere?

[noble vine]

Also just like an aside I swear mana pots do nothing

[atomic fable]

mana potions boost mana regeneration speed

[noble vine]

I know they technically do something

But practically speaking I’ve never seen a noticeable difference

[white lintel]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[atomic fable]

For me, the best mana potion I have boosts mana regeneraiton speed by 108%

[noble vine]

But yeah, back on topic, I’m pretty sure the culprit is something like Daggerang eating the mana

[atomic fable]

You can also upgrade the mana talent (Tab 1) or the mana box (Post Office)

which will increase mana regen since it goes by max mana (since regen is a percentage)

[wheat cove]

what are theese

[white lintel]

future master classes

[haughty root]

possible future classes

[wheat cove]

they are not out yet?

[noble vine]

Yeah

[shadow grotto]

i want to get stat graph stamp but its so hard to freaking get

[haughty root]

what do you mean

[atomic fable]

Is it worth pushing for level 200 talents as soon as I can? I'm running back into the other issue with not enough water

[white lintel]

yes

[prime edge]

hiu guy quick question, what does tot means?

[stiff jay]

Classes u unlock in world 4 they’re the elite class of wizard and the other one im unsure of wich class its from

[wheat cove]

yeah.

except u dont unlock them in W4

[stiff jay]

U right should be w6 or later

[shadow grotto]

The Stat graph aka cattleprod pig quest

[viral vapor]

It's pretty straightforward. I think the most annoying thing is the 1 star rating thing.

What part is a problem?

[atomic fable]

I really like how auto review now has information for active bubo

really useful for me to know how close I am to being able to start to use bubo actively

[shadow grotto]

But how do iget them 1 star ratings

[atomic fable]

I think it's part of rare drops

which if true, crystal farming is best

[viral vapor]

Time mostly. Work on your droprate, or get it on a lot of characters and funnel it onto 1 guy.

[shadow grotto]

I could only get it on dk caus of divine intervention

[viral vapor]

You can do it on everyone. They'll pick up stars while afk'ing on mobs

tfw you realize "% to flags" and "% to flaggy rate" are different

[wheat cove]

does time candy affect spice gathering

[viral vapor]

no

[wheat cove]

what affects spice gathering

[viral vapor]

The amount of pets doing the gathering

And their power

[viral vapor]

Different traits also combine together to do different kinds of boosts for example:

[wheat cove]

k.

[near barn]

Guys does anyone know ehere to place a trap

i started W3 today

[viral vapor]

You have to "go to the place" for it. On the wiki they list the maps where they are.

The first trap for froges is in the Glunko/Slime map on the left

Eventually you get the trapping drone and everything is so much nicer 😆

[near barn]

okay thanks

[shadow grotto]

Because quests before that

Im boutta go to sleep crazy active day today only because its weekend though

[viral vapor]

It will come with time. The initial rush to like ~mid W5 is

You'll get there

[brave swallow]

does the pet happiness thing even do anything?

[shadow grotto]

I just figured out what I should be doing basically yesterday and its heped so much im starting roo and im doing alchemy like crazy

[shadow grotto]

Happy Doggy

[brave swallow]

that’s worth the money

[shadow grotto]

I know i spent 15 void coins on it (i get that much from all my characters after like 2 1/2 days)

[haughty root]

im currently at 22m ish damage at kruk trying to figure out how to get another 10m damage

[shadow grotto]

At absolute max damage ever 12m

[vital verge]

so, do i wait like 3 months before i progrss enough on W6 to get the golden food meal to use the 100k ladles? or do i use it now with another 10 meals?

[haughty root]

you will likely get another 100k ladles before then

[vital verge]

because i have the 100k rn, but very far from getting the golden food emal

[haughty root]

dont waste ur ladels tho

100k ladels can take you very far if you use them correctly

[vital verge]

this is my most advanced character

[haughty root]

what does your cooking look like

[vital verge]

id need like 800hours to get to next map

[haughty root]

nvm

[shadow grotto]

What Prayers should I use for jus can have on and w0rry about nothing like class exp

[vital verge]

my mistake, its like this

[cold wraith]

do you have all but last spice?

[vital verge]

last 2 spices

[cold wraith]

oh

[cold wraith]

i do know you can get all but last meal with second to last spice

[compact lake]

!lad

[exotic fossil]

how do you have so much money but only in world 4

[shadow grotto]

who you talking to

[exotic fossil]

this guy

[shadow grotto]

I Had My idleon on so long it crashed and went all white

[vital verge]

im in W6, its needed to unlock a thing from W4

[exotic fossil]

mb

[shadow grotto]

What world you in

[full beacon]

happens all the time for me... I think it has a higher chance if you been swapping chars a lot too

[exotic fossil]

im in world 4

[shadow grotto]

I sqapped like 150 times

[full beacon]

there you go then

[brave cove]

just remember to cloud save often

[shadow grotto]

Everything just crashed just got all back up

[thin iron]

if i forfeit during worship does that just end at current round or do i not get any rewards

[indigo stratus]

you keep it all , it just ends the same way it wouldve if you had failed

[limpid lark]

is it intended for the troll boss fight to bug out?

like the boss not having a hitbox after doing a mind game correctly

[latent bramble]

intended? probably not. but it happens. quite frequently

[limpid lark]

thats horrible

the boss fight is maybe the worse boss fight ive done in a few years and then it bugs? nah bruh

do we know what triggers the bug?

[white path]

do u have the "Succeed at 20 of the Troll's mindgames" task?

[limpid lark]

at the moment yes

[white path]

complete it and the bug fixes itself

[limpid lark]

okay thanks

so just power through it lol

do we know the minimum amount of DR needed to farm w4 crystals?

[brave swallow]

24m damage will be enough for me to go through world 4 right?

[limpid lark]

it should be

[shadow grotto]

EZ

[brave swallow]

i think I am way too overleveled ngl

[cold wraith]

cant believe this is question now

[shadow grotto]

What level is average or pusher

[compact lake]

does this mean 40% + My shiny chance ( for example, if my shiny chance is 10, will it make it 50%) or does it mean 1.4 x My Shiny chance

[brave swallow]

i have vman

[white path]

vault is too op

[cold wraith]

people used to be asking if 800k dmg was enough

[cold wraith]

look at this

this is ridiculous

[white path]

i've found 8 pristine charms this year

[shadow grotto]

Is 1-2.5mil enough

[cold wraith]

freak

[cold wraith]

yea you need 1m for troll

[cold wraith]

tbf ive been decently lucky while spending gems but still it sucks

[brave swallow]

is the best way to get damage on bloodberserker just to kill 100k mobs?

[shadow grotto]

Are you actualy wrld 3?

[cold wraith]

yes

[raw inlet]

W3 progression I assume

[cold wraith]

thats why im in this chat

[thin iron]

do checkouts in library keep stacking? or is there a cap

[white path]

I have only bought from gem shop once then later got it naturally, never bought from gem shop since

[cold wraith]

take longer the more you have

[shadow grotto]

Why you sound like a master sage then

[cold wraith]

ive been around

[full beacon]

any way to keep "fired up" on in a normal map? or is that more of a bossing/dungeon skill

[hybrid sparrow]

can ppl help for the dance achievement in w4 town?

[shadow grotto]

Im currently waiting for liquid and refreshing idleon effficiency

[cold wraith]

i want the money multi and og chance charms

[white path]

I want the dr one

[cold wraith]

lets trade

[white path]

with my luck I think i'll get it soon

[cold wraith]

i dislike you

[brave swallow]

how much would the hole buff mining efficiency?

[cold wraith]

i dont have many gems either

[cold wraith]

a decent bit. i dont touch hole at all and i have like 800% effi bonus or smth but it goes a lot higher than that

[white path]

this is mine

[brave swallow]

ok so ig getting godshard bars won’t be too hard if this exists

[shadow grotto]

I have a guild post up but no one wil join will someone join my guild low level because i just made it 4 days ago lvl 6 almost

[cold wraith]

its not hard with 3d printer

[brave swallow]

how good are late game 3d printers?

[cold wraith]

people are getting billions of prints

and you can 6x that because of lab and harriep

[brave swallow]

damn, now I feel like I suck…

[cold wraith]

you asked for late game...

[swift fox]

Should I switch my main from bb to sb?

My sb does more damage

[brave swallow]

i thought late world 4 would be close to late game 😭

i am clearly very wrong ig

[white path]

endgamers are getting trillions

[cold wraith]

he asked for late game

[shadow grotto]

Whats an sb

[cold wraith]

i mean reaching w6 was considered tutorial pre-vault, but with vault its like pre-tutorial or smth

[tropic lintel]

been at it 12m/12m for 30mins active.. is it a bug or numbers we cant see and whish we could see?

[cold wraith]

siege breaker, elite bowman class

[swift fox]

Siege breaker

[full beacon]

try eating a 1 hr candy xD

[brave swallow]

so am I able to get billions of damage in world 4 or is that mostly in world 5?

[shadow grotto]

Nah thats world 6

[cold wraith]

you would be at millions till w6 then start scaling to billions+

[tropic lintel]

all out of candy

[swift fox]

World 5

[crude moat]

Tried cloud saving?

[brave swallow]

pretty sure the numbers round up

so you have to check the cards for the exact number

[swift fox]

Should I switch my main from bb to sb?

Idk about stuff

[brave swallow]

so how much damage would be needed for world 5?

[crude moat]

No main
every character important

[swift fox]

Gotchu

[cold wraith]

it was 30m for es and 35m for dk but with vault i think its like 30m for dk and 25-30m for es

[vital verge]

wich one is priority to book now?

[brisk mauve]

There is a pusher and skiller though

[tropic lintel]

cars shows 12m also

[swift fox]

What I mean is I have a pack exclusive thing that gives me 50 percent more damage what character should I have that on?

[tropic lintel]

dont wanna close the game, still on the 250 "hi" achivment

[cold wraith]

just hop busiest servers and go to each town and paste hi

[brave swallow]

so if I can deal 24 million on a siegebreaker in mid world 4 you think I can do world 5?

[cold wraith]

dawg 24 million i think will 1 shot troll

and youll def build enough dmg before you finish maps till kruk

[brave swallow]

alr ty

[crude moat]

Whatever you are pushing on I will say

[chilly oasis]

Flag rate is useless after unlocking the entire construction board right?

[swift fox]

Ok my bb then Ty

[haughty root]

i can tell you 23m is not enough for dk to kill kruk uncomfortably

[crude moat]

Are you active? Or afk

[swift fox]

Afk but I play a lot

Like I have sb and do

[crude moat]

Ookey

[cold wraith]

i mean im very confident by the time they push to the end of w5 theyll have enough dmg

[swift fox]

Dk

[shadow grotto]

Ive realised why dk is best fro crystal farms besides maestro/vman

[raw inlet]

Donkey kong

[crude moat]

People farm crystals on dk

[swift fox]

[shadow grotto]

because of instant respawn and tons of mobbing

[crude moat]

Yeee

Becz of orb

[swift fox]

What should I push on

[livid python]

I cant see 3d printer or construction of one of my characters in the quick ref. how can i fix this?

[swift fox]

Dk bb or sb?

[crude moat]

I think they should visit w3

[crude moat]

Active dk
Afk bb probably

[swift fox]

Okkkk Ty

[livid python]

they are in w3 and i did the first few quests just in case. only one cahracter cant access it in quick ref

[brave swallow]

I’m still using the golden bow…

[crude moat]

Have you upgraded the 3d printer?

[cold wraith]

yea thats fine i had ice bow till recently

[livid python]

i dont know what upgrade means.

[crude moat]

Go to construction

What level is the printer

[modern narwhal]

what happens if you buy a pristine charm bag when you have all the pristine charms? i was just curious since it says no duplicates

[livid python]

its maxed out

[cold wraith]

i dont think it lets you purchase

[shadow grotto]

Should I get printer upgrade or bleached cauldrons

[modern narwhal]

it does im scared to press it

[crude moat]

Then it should work

[livid python]

lvl 10/10

[cold wraith]

then dont?

[crude moat]

Can you sent a ss of your printer

[livid python]

yeah

[white path]

probably gives u a duplicate

[quiet grail]

I used one of those up to 500 hrs candies I got the High roll

[crude moat]

Ooo you can't

[quiet grail]

This is the 2nd one I ever used

[modern narwhal]

it says you cant get a dupe so im just curious thats all

[livid python]

discord issue or member issue?

[crude moat]

You need to be copper rank

Chatting here will increase it

[haughty root]

what a waste but grats lol

[livid python]

ah. ok well

[quiet grail]

The last one was 8 hrs so I assumed it would be bad lmao

I was pushing to World 5

[livid python]

im using the 3d printer and have samples and such it just doesnt show in quick ref. same with construction. theres a gap before sneaking just blank

[haughty root]

did you at least level your shrines with it

[quiet grail]

Yep, I got them next to me

No not big waste

[crude moat]

Have you taken that character to w3 town

[livid python]

yeah its the only way to access the printer sample selection on that character

[quiet grail]

Also my guy went up by 50 lvls LMAO

[crude moat]

Just go to town and open construction and 3d printer

[livid python]

i did

[crude moat]

See if that will work

[crude moat]

Oooo

[livid python]

its how i checked the level of the printer in construction

[cold wraith]

until last week i had no armor on everyone and best weapon was ice weapons. i upgraded everyone to kruk, then half godshard/kruk + godshard weapons, then godshard tools a few days later

[crude moat]

There shouldn't be a issue idk why

[white path]

stop progressing past me

[cold wraith]

you have more base dr than me

[livid python]

haha well i guess its not a huge issue. im just sitting on the meditation throne all day with this character

[cold wraith]

if i didnt have multis my dr would be at 26 something

[quiet grail]

What would be a good use of the 500hr candies?

[crude moat]

try cloud saving or restarting it may or may not work

[modern narwhal]

i take it back you are correct, it gives a dupe

[cold wraith]

its not rly 500 hours its mostly like 5 hours

[quiet grail]

I got 500 a little bit ago but I get what you mean

[white path]

did u really use 900 gems for science.....

[cold wraith]

lucky for that

[modern narwhal]

yes. I had to know.

[strange flare]

how do I see max book level on it/ie

[modern narwhal]

but it was in the name of science

[haughty root]

different for everyone

[brisk mauve]

It's a chance lol
Click on candy in town and see it's description

[crude moat]

I have no idea

[livid python]

i have had the issue for a few weeks. maybe ill report it as a bug

[modern narwhal]

also what is the best class to farm rare drops? Like those 1 in 1 million drops like gold twine

[haughty root]

anything that you would be happy to get 20 days of afk gains on, but not sad to only get 1 hour

[crude moat]

Ahaa report it then

[obtuse whale]

I'll use that in fractal

[regal marlin]

how does Arena Spirit work?

[quiet grail]

Smithy McFish is now 65 lvls above any of my other guys

[crude moat]

@brisk mauve

[regal marlin]

I cast it but I can't do the Pet Arena?

[cold wraith]

need to cast before using arena attempt

[regal marlin]

oh.
lame

[haughty root]

i used mine to push w5

[quiet grail]

I ROLLED A 0.4% CHANCE???

WHAT

[brisk mauve]

Max library level or talent level on character?

[strange flare]

library book

[haughty root]

i mean 1/250 isnt that rare

[vital verge]

rate my trapping positioning

positions

[brisk mauve]

It's not available iirc
Gotta check in game

[haughty root]

3/10

[strange flare]

seriously

[vital verge]

why 3/10

[brisk mauve]

IT has a search function

Try typing in it

[haughty root]

it doesn't even spell a word

[strange flare]

nothing

can't be that hard to calc smh

[full beacon]

dang beast master has so many skills I want to put on the hotbar

[vital verge]

what is the best way to farm fencyard slots on breeding?

just stack a lot of eggs and start selling green mushrooms?

[solemn condor]

why i can worship the ice lvl totem? i can summon, but i cant pick up the souls (i have autoloot) .. im lvl 45 worship

[hallow scarab]

If I put a ribbon on a meal is it gone forever? Or can I still upgrade it?

[sour forum]

I still don't have a SINGLE POISON FROGE and I've almost completed world 5

[quiet grail]

Let's go! I may or mayn't have 1 shot him though

World 5 here I come!

[sour forum]

:o nice man

I don't have any character built yet

everyone's below 10m dmg

[quiet grail]

The hardest part was just reaching Troll, other then that he's a cake walk

[sour forum]

Yes

[quiet grail]

My guy is a Siege Breaker with 20 mil dmg, Check Vault the bonuses are insane

like bug catching and Carrots and such

Oh and stick kills

[sour forum]

how 😭

[quiet grail]

He was only lv 150 when I started

Slimy necklace/Amarock and Snowman Card

that gives good bonuses

[sour forum]

I have good cards, but since I don't have shiny froge I can't even get void imperium stuff

so I'm using gold armor and ice hammer something

All others have gold weapons

[quiet grail]

I killed him in Amarok Armor using a Blizzard Bow, lmao

[sour forum]

Man your account is built

mine is far from it

My idleon review doesn't even say anything

everythings the lowest tier

[quiet grail]

Have you World 7 Bird yet?

I did that, it gives good bonuses

[sour forum]

what's that

[quiet grail]

Orion

[sour forum]

I did

I completed it like 3 times

[quiet grail]

You got Fractal Megafeather?

[sour forum]

Yes

[quiet grail]

well then, hmmmm

[quiet grail]

Check you other characters, they might be stronger

[sour forum]

I should just build my characters, they all have maybe 500 to 600 points in each tab

[sour forum]

^

[quiet grail]

Anyways, it's time for me to start praying to the Devine

[sour forum]

Ok

[quiet grail]

I'm looking forward to this, I heard the Depths are interesting

[quiet grail]

Wait I just thought of something, Check your Tome

That gives crazy dmg% bonuses

[pulsar oracle]

question about rift slug: it gives +25 talent levels, is that "talent level cap", actual talent levels, or just "phantom" talent levels that don't actually show on my talent sheet? (i.e. if i have 100 in a talent, rift slug means its treated like its 125 but it doesn't actually SAY 125)

also is it every talent i have unlocked or only talents with a point in them?

[steel sage]

It'd say 125/100

[compact pagoda]

real

[lone swan]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=number_one0242 what bubbles should i do? ik the shaq one but im working on it

[proud skiff]

isnt journeyman quest supposed to give book for beginner best? or is it from somewhere else

[steel sage]

Some books have been moved in star talents recently, it might give you the book in the position it was in

[lone swan]

how can i increases max level of fist of rage?

[steel sage]

There's a few talents in warrior subclasses, as well as a vman talent

[lone swan]

is that the only way

[proud skiff]

where can i get the star talents then?

[steel sage]

I think tp pete if you're okay with a max level of one

[lyric relic]

where tf did the tree go?!?

[steel sage]

Otherwise wait for the bug fix

[lone swan]

Is this the only way to kinda increase fist of rage? before vman

[chrome herald]

What are the best towers to use for tower defense

[steel sage]

No, let me check the exact talents

[white lintel]

Me with the shaped belly

[lone swan]

this is for an archer should of started with that

i need more accuarcy

[lyric relic]

bro ate my tree

[steel sage]

Bb/dk overblown testosterone
Barb/squire str summore

And there's also the first orange bubble but that ignores stat increases

As far as getting strength is concerned

[lone swan]

danm is there a good way to increase accuracy then?

[rustic oriole]

So many

[lone swan]

i do 100% acc but i want to get to multikill

[rustic oriole]

Multikill is damage

[lone swan]

oh

is there a way to see how much dmg u need?

[steel sage]

Double the enemy hp

[lone swan]

ok makes sense

8m dmg thats alot

[steel sage]

And it replaces the accuracy bar cause if you do that you can probably hit it with 100% accuracy

Early game you can kinda ignore it besides knowing that you have a bit better afk gains farming w1/w2 main materials

[lone swan]

it sucks cause i need to wait like 2 days to get a new map and it only increases

[steel sage]

Just to make sure you know: the multikill tier is multiplied by your multikill per tier and bane multikill to get the actual number of kills it counts for

[lone swan]

i think ik what you mean

[steel sage]

At a guess you'd probably get like 10% more kills from multikill currently

[lone swan]

can i increase my kills/h other then multikill

[steel sage]

There are a few things that directly increase kpk

But not really attainable besides the barbarian talent at that stage of the game

[lone swan]

danm alright so is it just slow to get to w5 then

[steel sage]

Oh if you're w4 you can activate killer bright side in lab

Activing a dk/es/sb with their respawn mechanic

[lone swan]

cant get that far in the lab yet

[steel sage]

Then stick your chars other than your pusher in lab to level up

[rustic oriole]

Can also use ES

Active

[steel sage]

There's not much better for them to active

[lone swan]

where is killer brightside

[steel sage]

It's the fourth one

Nope I lied

[lone swan]

i found it

it kinda is the 4th one

have to sacrafice a few things for it though

[steel sage]

If you can link to nblb not sigils

You shouldn't do sigils until you have every bubble unlocked

[steel sage]

Yeah thats better

[lone swan]

kinda annoying i miss out on like 8% dmg

[steel sage]

Congrats you doubled your portal kph

What are the other two chars doing?

[lone swan]

Danm i didnt see it doubled and my other characters are cooking and getting their elite class

[dusty bronze]

Where can I see my sample size %? IE? IToolbox?

[raw inlet]

Is he pushing W5?

[steel sage]

Ok yeah those are good things to do

[steel sage]

If you're looking to see if you hit 90 you can see it in the construction skill page

[raw inlet]

When should I stop lab grind? Level 75 on all characters?

[dusty bronze]

Where 😭

[steel sage]

That doesn't help with seeing if you can take off royal sampler though

[dusty bronze]

Lemme check again

[steel sage]

In game where all the skills are in inventory, I think it's a couple up from the bottom

[raw inlet]

Guys when does lab grind stop I wanna get back to actually playing da game

[dusty bronze]

Hum...

Yeah idk if Im blink or if it does not show cuz I have not hit 90%

[steel sage]

If you have vman and diamond chef you can get enough meal levels to get every node with arctis pretty easily

[dusty bronze]

Oh yeah

Found it, thx! At 61%, rn, without royal sampler

[short kite]

Nah, when you can reach all upgrades that's good enough

[raw inlet]

Ah.
So you're saying I've been mindlessly grinding lab for a week now. Great

Well I've been doing divinity as well at least

[sinful bolt]

That's fine, you'll need a lot of levels later on anyway

[steel sage]

There's 3 upgrades added in w6 so it could help with those

[short kite]

Leveling to 75 is only worth if you have a ton of chips, but you most likely have less than 10

[raw inlet]

I think I can easily get those, considering I have 2 characters that can be used to go farther

[short kite]

And later on you will level up much faster

[steel sage]

I'm in w6 with 6 chips 🙏

[dusty bronze]

Ive been grindiing lab for 1 week, tho I'vr reach every upgrade, but im doing it with the goat god so I get divinity too

[dusty bronze]

Fr me too lol

[short kite]

The chips I want will become available in 180 days lol

[lone swan]

should i put my bb on cooking or lab

[dusty bronze]

You can see that? Lol

[short kite]

On the wiki

[steel sage]

The chip I want comes in 23 days but I might not have idleon access

[raw inlet]

Honestly the lab shop is super annoying
Like there's gonna be an Omega chip soon and I'm def not gonna get it, then I gotta wait Like 2 months for it again or something

[dusty bronze]

Damn i REALLY need choc chip

[sinful bolt]

Oh, next rotation is a card doubler, neat

[steel sage]

23 days

[dusty bronze]

Choc chip?

[steel sage]

Yup!

[dusty bronze]

Damnnn ill go take a look at wiki

[short kite]

I got an event on my calendar about the omega chip

[dusty bronze]

Will be prepared.

[steel sage]

Maybe I should start producing spurs now

[sinful bolt]

You'll need the W6 Jewel upgrade in order to pick it up

Although, it's next appearance will be, uh, next year apparently..

[steel sage]

That's horrible

Guess I'm getting that one with gems probably

[short kite]

10M fairy may be tough for some

[raw inlet]

Guys what's the next gemstone for lab

[rustic oriole]

can you active afk lab

[steel sage]

You can always see on the lab wiki page

[rustic oriole]

and is it worth it

[calm heath]

When does 3D printer actually start to feel good ?! :D im loving my green mushroom caps at 60/hr rn..

[steel sage]

If it works there'd be no benefit

[rustic oriole]

need multikill

[calm heath]

Deathnote?

[steel sage]

What's your sample size?

[rustic oriole]

yeh

[raw inlet]

Yes

[dusty bronze]

I could not get the upgrade for no bubble left behind, AND IT WILL COME BACK IN ONE AND A HALF YEARS

Lol.

[raw inlet]

Mob prints are trash without it

[calm heath]

Ahh ok so once inget deathnote things start to feel better

Gotcha

[sinful bolt]

Welcome to Chip rotations, gotta get used to it

[rustic oriole]

without deathnote you cant ever multikill

so youre waiting for mobs to respawn

[raw inlet]

Qhat about boss/miniboss multikill

That's a w6 bonus right

[steel sage]

Multikill is only for the primary mob drop

[calm heath]

And for gathering materials, what am I looking to grt going first so 3d printer feels good

[cursive galleon]

hmm what consumables did u guys buy for killroy?

[sinful bolt]

Balls

[cursive galleon]

im considering the book checkouts

[dusty bronze]

💀

[sinful bolt]

What? It's practically gems.

[cursive galleon]

👀 sus

[steel sage]

I usually get checkeuts or refinery cycles

[sinful bolt]

[raw inlet]

Royal sampler maybe? But that's still pretty far

[dusty bronze]

For me its always books or refinery cycles

[cursive galleon]

nah thats fair the arcade balls are insane esp with the current arcade rotation

[raw inlet]

Def crystal 3d printer

[cursive galleon]

refinery cycles tho? isnt that a bit pointless after the lab unlock with x3 refinery speed?

[ancient flame]

best soul to use for exp?

[dusty bronze]

DEF NOT. Lol

[sinful bolt]

Refinery Cycles drop in value the faster it is, so yes

[raw inlet]

It's still good

[cursive galleon]

it says a single refinery cycle 🤔

[steel sage]

I think it'll take me 3 months to get the salt for troll armor

[dusty bronze]

I can get half a day worth of purple salts

[sinful bolt]

Just pray for a good Omniphau proc, easy

[cursive galleon]

ahhh you're at purple, im still at blue salts

[raw inlet]

Rank up void salts real

[dusty bronze]

And I get like... 50/killroy run?

[shrewd hollow]

Started 2 weeks ago I’m in world 4 rn struggling I’m pushing alchemy but progress is slow where do I get more defense damage and accuracy

[cursive galleon]

my refinery speed is around 3 minutes and still decreasing with DK + vault

[rustic oriole]

also can i not get choco chip right now?

[steel sage]

That's the time to get enough green salts factoring in rank ups

[sinful bolt]

Either Stamps, or Vault. Owl/Roo if you haven't done them yet

[steel sage]

It comes in rotation in 23 days

[dusty bronze]

Yeah, next salt have like 4x the time needed per cycle? Something like that

[rustic oriole]

oof thats a long while

[steel sage]

second page is 4x longer yeah

[cursive galleon]

oh damn, yeah i think i might the killroy skulls for now

[steel sage]

No that's almost here

[dusty bronze]

Its pretty easy to get it, im surprised

[calm heath]

Got deathnote, went from 60 to 240? Pog..??

[shrewd hollow]

Yeah true iv been sleeping on stamps

[raw inlet]

Yessir