midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[odd obsidian]

36? i think?

[compact pagoda]

i see

[cold wraith]

maybe mob respawn pieces of kruk?

[compact pagoda]

i mean evey 5-6 levels

[neon ferry]

Eventually Ill get vman(idk how hard that'll be)

[calm skiff]

Kruk top bot + Weapon will help

[compact pagoda]

i said that as in

[cold wraith]

took me maybe 5 minutes

[odd obsidian]

magma helm to marbiglass isnt a terribly expensive upgrade

[fallen ridge]

one week or you'll lose the card doubler

[compact pagoda]

after beating 35

[mint rivet]

alr i will get marbiglass rq

[odd obsidian]

miss?

[neon ferry]

How¿?

[odd obsidian]

yeah..

[fallen ridge]

I'm not able to write...

[odd obsidian]

its what i'm worrying about but theres not much i can do

[karmic frost]

Do I even want this? https://gyazo.com/2c9e8b9bb9cba4adc9b2f7be6750be37

[calm skiff]

wops

[odd obsidian]

i can't multiply my jade coin production by a whole 1000x in just a few days

[atomic fable]

Is it worth using atoms on Mage is best? I have 300k prints for it and my atoms per hour is 50

[cold wraith]

candy

[calm skiff]

Stay with Kruk Weapon /Top/Bottom, they give Respawn bonuses.

[odd obsidian]

yes, it's rift 36. as in you get it when you reach rift 36

[cold wraith]

you dont have anything else you cana tom click

[mint rivet]

noo I do not have leafy droplets

[odd obsidian]

beating 35, reaching rift 36. its the same!

[atomic fable]

I do have some others I can atom instead like some skilling bubbles

[compact pagoda]

don't u reach 36 after 35 done

[cold wraith]

leafy drop is literally first mob in w6 no?

[mint rivet]

kruk hat and pants?

[odd obsidian]

kruk pants

[cold wraith]

pants and chest give respawn

[compact pagoda]

or is it after 36 u get vial

[mint rivet]

yes

[cursive galleon]

what items are the easiest for green stacking? mainly world 1 and world 4 shop food right?

[odd obsidian]

reaching rift 36, not beating rift 36

[mint rivet]

alr crafted into marble, the chest, i got kruk pants and helm left

[odd obsidian]

rest easy. you won't have to

[compact pagoda]

ohhh

[cold wraith]

but kruk helm doesnt give mob respawn

[compact pagoda]

i always beat the wave

[mint estuary]

Every now and then, like once a week, all my laboratory people will just drop out. Any ideas what's causing it?

[compact pagoda]

fr

[atomic fable]

Aside from skill prowess and wisdom, all other bubbles I can use atoms on cost around 500 atoms or more

[odd obsidian]

you wont have to get a 75 score on your siege breaker

[mint rivet]

so i upgrade to marble

[cold wraith]

they are on a strike

[mint rivet]

well i learned i shouldn't upgrade from kruk to marble too late

[compact pagoda]

we don't talk about sieges

[cold wraith]

so y ou mean you have chest and pants left to upgrade to kruk? or?

[odd obsidian]

essentially, marble hats and boots, kruk chest and pants

[mint rivet]

I got marble chest, marble boots, kruk pants, kruk helm

[cold wraith]

this confuses me a lil

[cold wraith]

ah rip

[odd obsidian]

yikes

[mint rivet]

i might aswell just go full marble

[odd obsidian]

what the fuck!!! what kind of prank is this

[compact pagoda]

hmmmmm

[odd obsidian]

ive been sending all my boats to ancientize crystal steak

and my lone boat i send to push isle of tombs gets me the ancient rock!!

[compact pagoda]

and

just rng

[odd obsidian]

its the same chance 💔

[compact pagoda]

u get that eventually

[mint rivet]

how should my chip setup be

[odd obsidian]

wood chip for the mkpt maybe

[mint rivet]

i got 11% afk gain keychain

[atomic fable]

I noticed once I unlocked the void plate upgrade in atoms, it increased my max atom bubble alternative to 12

[mint rivet]

wouldn't mob respawn be better?

[odd obsidian]

dont you have 7 slots

well just compare what 5 mob respawn chips or 1 wood chip/4 mob respawn chips does for you

[mint rivet]

i am going to use keychain doubler

so 4 slots

i will compare then

[odd obsidian]

well just compare what 4 mob respawn chips or 1 wood chip/3 mob respawn chips does for you

[mint estuary]

Seriously though, any idea?

[cold wraith]

not rly no

maybe something happened when you are switching devices?

[mint estuary]

I dont switch devices

It happens once in a while, and I don't know how it sorts itself out

[royal nexus]

my doods are off grid

[cold wraith]

never heard of that happening before

try seeing in #bug-reports-🐛 and see if it happens to anyone else

[mint rivet]

this random thing dropped while i was activeing ES< is it a slab?

[cold wraith]

think you drop those after buying the jade emporium upgrade

p sure that is a slab

[mint rivet]

LETS GOO NEW SLAB

[median olive]

is there an easier way to get distilled water

[mint rivet]

active farm w3

some gstacked it too

[median olive]

it drops there?

[noble vine]

Yup. Rare drop pool

[median olive]

active only or what

[noble vine]

AFK works too, but active is technically faster, barely, until you get respawn mechanics

[mint rivet]

lava will add 2 new resurces with this update, most likely

[mint rivet]

it was indeed

[noble vine]

So anyway, getting the last map before troll boss done, and I’m capping out at about 6k kills an hour with BB and Brighside. Anything I can do to get that number up

[cold wraith]

dmg

[noble vine]

Yeah but how much more is the real question, and where

[mint rivet]

||Alchemy||

[noble vine]

Why did I know that was gonna be the spoiler. I mean I know why, but still

[compact pagoda]

alchemy is everything

u heard alchemy enough times

[noble vine]

The whole game is Oops All Alchemy, and honestly no shame in that

[mint rivet]

also stamps, vault, owl, roo, post office, talents, start tlents, deathnote, construction, cooking, lab, breeding

gear is not as important, but still matters too

[compact pagoda]

well what can i say

[noble vine]

My only complaint about alchemy this far in is that it’s not really feeling like alchemy so much as remembering to water my plants

[steel sage]

Refinery too

[mint rivet]

refinery contributes to construction and salt lick indeed

[compact pagoda]

bubbling moment

[white lintel]

youll get used to it

[mint rivet]

alchemy slows down when linear bubbles are 20k+ and dimishing ones are 99% potency+

[steel sage]

I care more about hitting a point you can't craft upgrades because you have no green salt

[mint rivet]

idk if any endgamer reached that

[steel sage]

W6 with mostly w3 tools because of green salt 😔

[compact pagoda]

no way

[mint rivet]

its not cooked, its bad

[compact pagoda]

correct ur refinery

[noble vine]

To be fair the vault is just silly in terms of raw stats

[compact pagoda]

vault gains

[mint rivet]

no

[steel sage]

There isn't anything to correct anymore, I've been doing rank up only refines on red and green for a while and I'm just now doing the 14k rank up

[atomic fable]

Am I nearly done with the 2nd lab section? my lowest level is 66 lab

[noble vine]

Granted I’m finally hitting the point where the money isn’t buying much, but yeah I’m still doing shit I couldn’t think of doing half a year ago

[mint rivet]

make sure u unlock pocket divinity asap

[mint rivet]

as long as u don't hit this, u aren't at that point

[mint rivet]

what's 2nd lab section

[cold wraith]

is it time to dump into upgrade vault 🤩

[steel sage]

What's pocket divinity again?

[terse haven]

where is the kitchen area

[cold wraith]

first green bonus in hole

[wild urchin]

How do i increase my coin gain

[cold wraith]

more coin multi?

[mint rivet]

dump it into cooking xp and get that skill mastery lvl 1k on cookin

[mint rivet]

vault, ALCHEMY

[steel sage]

Getting rank 2 of that next level

[compact pagoda]

pink coins ☠️

[atomic fable]

so like the level 75 lab

[mint rivet]

ur almost done then

[cold wraith]

yikes man

[wild urchin]

Alchemy??

[compact pagoda]

yah

[steel sage]

There is a vault bonus that gives increased coin gain per bubble level up to 100 per pubble

[wild urchin]

Which upgrade

[mint rivet]

All comes down to it

[wild urchin]

I have all the bonuses unlocked

[terse haven]

where do I afk in the kitchen

[wild urchin]

Oh i have this maxed

[steel sage]

Anywhere the cooking skill pops up in bottom left

[mint rivet]

as long as eveery bubble is not lvl 100+, it ain't maxed

[wild urchin]

Its 200+ is that a problem?

[shrewd hollow]

jw for a endgame player how much stats do u lose without sheepie

[mint rivet]

uh oh

[steel sage]

Every bubble is 200+?

[mint rivet]

every bubble?

[cold wraith]

my alchemy is horrid then

[noble vine]

Oh. Oh that’s where I’m supposed to be making five bajillion dollars from. That’s where the thousands of money% came from. Literally just existing at it until you’re rich

[brave swallow]

what’s an easy way to boost damage in world 4?

on a blood berserker

[zenith hare]

don't exactly need damage in w4 tbh

[mint rivet]

new slabs

[shrewd hollow]

he does

[zenith hare]

1mill max damage is all you need for troll. people reach 5mill+ on accident

[compact pagoda]

on accident

[median olive]

are there any sites to check precise drop rate with rare drop and dr

[mint rivet]

at 20m kph on gmush, should i go for wows?

[zenith hare]

wiki

[zenith hare]

50 hours per is alright

[brave swallow]

so I do like 60 mill on my siegebreaker… Am I overprepared?

[zenith hare]

vastly

[steel sage]

Divide drop chance by drop rate

[zenith hare]

I assume you quite when w3 was latest world

[brave swallow]

alr but how would I gain damage in world 5?

[zenith hare]

don't need damage for w5

[noble vine]

Easiest way is probably just Turkeys, doing your Vault upgrades, getting a weapon, and you should be good to go. I’m just on BB, doing all the %damage upgrades in skill tree, and doing 10 million

[zenith hare]

30m max damage needed in w5 for kruk

[median olive]

and multiply rare drop rate with item frop rate in the rare drop then divide by dr?

[zenith hare]

yeah

[brave swallow]

alr ty

[steel sage]

Stamps, alchemy, and a hundred other little bonuses scattered across the game

[mint rivet]

i will first do schows to ALSO get lava skulls (most are dementia), so hopefully that number will rise a ton

slab

[boreal olive]

does anyone know why printer and construction wont shwo up for my final char?

[cold wraith]

have you interacted with it

[boreal olive]

yes both

[mint rivet]

u need to unlock them, is ur printer maxed in construction?

[wild urchin]

Yes (trust me bro)

[cold wraith]

get that godshard sword

[mint rivet]

show ss

[boreal olive]

i am currently producing on final char

[mint rivet]

nah I need 2 recipes, monster mats, enough lvl to equip it

[cold wraith]

oh

[wild urchin]

My pc is broken hahaha

[cold wraith]

rip

[wild urchin]

What a shame i cant send an ss rn!

[cold wraith]

it swings hella fast with cauliflower ribboned

[clear cipher]

banana army

[boreal olive]

i rebooted and its STILL missing what is this 😭

[mint rivet]

after some MINMAXING, I doubled my initial kph

[boreal olive]

AH BIZARRE< I had to go to world 2 town, so it would say "portal openned" then i got access in quick menu

[cold wraith]

zamn

[compact pagoda]

15 hp 😭

overkill

[mint rivet]

huh

[cold wraith]

you’ve caught up to my kph with almost half agr

[mint rivet]

u got close to 800 afgr?

[cold wraith]

like 600 i think

[compact pagoda]

i never knew it had 15 hp

[mint rivet]

its over half then

[icy mantle]

isnt there any way to increase this by 2?

[compact pagoda]

thought it be less

[cold wraith]

.floor()

[mint rivet]

many ways

ima leave this here, to compare to later, to see how much candy I use

[thorny zinc]

My duuudes whats going on?

[plain heath]

what is this?

[zenith hare]

icky quote

[zenith hare]

its a star talent

[plain heath]

what does that and ubercharged health do

[zenith hare]

you can spend 5 checkouts to find out

theyre both good early

[wild urchin]

Wow thats a bizarre adventure allmike

[plain heath]

star talents are unlocked by all characters right

[zenith hare]

yes

[mint rivet]

has been done! W1 SCHOWED, besides the bone minibosses, but DAMN that is a lot of cards accidentaly rubied

[toxic quartz]

that one gives movement speed (or acc if you excede a certain mov speed cap) and ubercharged health gives more hp

[wild urchin]

What the flip

[mint rivet]

40hrs wow now

[wild urchin]

Oh wait you can also ruby cards by getting enough of them like diamond cards?

[toxic quartz]

the next one gives money per damage tier

[toxic quartz]

after unlocking them in the rift yes

[wild urchin]

Im not even w5 yet ggs

[toxic quartz]

before that they wont be ruby

rift is w4

[modern gate]

dude i cant even get a POP obol with es on 5x dr 😭

[wild urchin]

Welp i dont have anything to massively ruby anyway

[icy mantle]

should i buy jewels with gems?

[toxic quartz]

but you wont get to that point in rift in w4

[wild urchin]

I have NO idea what the rift is bro

[toxic quartz]

its on some of the last maps of w4

sets of combat based challenges that unlock or upgrade mechanics

[median olive]

it says to trap crabs by the sea,thats beach map 3 w2 right?

[wild urchin]

Oh im almost there then

[toxic quartz]

yes

[digital forge]

Hi there, had a question. With the refinery, I have been a little late in upgrading my red salts but since I should early refine red salts should I just leave my orange salts turned on even if I don't have enough red salts?

[mint rivet]

after

58 hours of candy for w1 schowed is a bargain

[toxic quartz]

dont worry though

[icy mantle]

.

[toxic quartz]

its combat based and monsters are STRONG

[modern gate]

no lol

[toxic quartz]

for that point anyways

[wild urchin]

Free the green mushrooms from the misery holy bro

[mint rivet]

its gonna be 10x that , 580hrs needed for w1 WOWED, @zenith hare Shall it be done? you decide

[toxic quartz]

check idleon toolbox for what gem purchases to prioritize

[wild urchin]

Did you say that they were STRONG?

[mint rivet]

i mean 580hrs is over 20 days

[toxic quartz]

STRONG

[wild urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-goku-dbz-dragon-ball-super-saiyan-gif-8246706

[kind leaf]

I have my traps set to 5 day traps and every time they collect I'm getting 2.7b frogs and 2.1b crabs and then when I change map the whole stack disappears from my storage. My other critters go above the 1050m cap and then go back to 1050 but frogs and crabs keep fully disappearing. I have the atom collider switched off to auto convert mats. Is this a bug or is there a way to stop the whole stack getting deleted every time I collect? Or should I move to shorter traps? Any one able to help

[toxic quartz]

when I got there I was oneshotting everything in w4 and struggled heavily there

[mint rivet]

got this beauty for w2

[mint rivet]

crabs and frogs reset to 0?

[wild urchin]

Trapping final boss😭

[toxic quartz]

they just completely disappear?

[kind leaf]

Yeah the whole stack just disappears from storage after changing map or character when the amount is above 1050m

[mint rivet]

not even 1m left?

[kind leaf]

Yeah whole stack is gone

[sinful bolt]

Is this on mobile?

[kind leaf]

Nothing left just empty space and yes on mobile

[sinful bolt]

Sounds like an overflow issue

[kind leaf]

Is shorter traps the answer going forward?

[wild urchin]

Hell yeah also doesnt gmush kills reset when you speedrun with vman?

[shadow grotto]

just do 12 or 20 hour traps

[mint rivet]

only on vman, its personal kills

[wild urchin]

Oh lets goo

Wait isnt the deathnote shared between all chars tho?

That makes no sense how can it only reset for vman

[mint rivet]

1hr candy for a wow is insane

[mint rivet]

as I SAID, personal kills

not account wide kills like the deathnote shows

the number next to the skull is personal kills, the skull represents what skull is on deathnote for that mob

[wild urchin]

OHHHH

[shadow grotto]

Is this good for my stage (Didnt know what to do for alchemy starting now/today)

[mint rivet]

what's your stage

bruh

[wild urchin]

Howd you get ts much kph😭

[white lintel]

MK

I think my frogs was like 125M

[white path]

is that without any setup?

[mint rivet]

mostly alchemy which gives me the stats to get multikill

[wild urchin]

Mine are at a billion trust me bro

[wild urchin]

I have extreme beef with alchemy

NO I DIDNT DO MY DAILY VIALS TODAY

[brisk ore]

what exactly does the miniature soul apparatus "quick all" button do?

[shadow grotto]

What should i do for trapping focus on froges for silkskin?

[white path]

uses all ur charge and deposits the souls into storage

[shadow grotto]

Accidentaly replied sry

[wild urchin]

Silkskin is goated but do the quests as much as you can

[brisk ore]

does it pray for every character at the soul I select? meaning I don't need to swap between characters for it? or do I still need to pull every character out of labs to use it?

[wild urchin]

Try to finish all the quests im at pingy rn but like ye

[shadow grotto]

I have scorpies but i need exp and better traps

[white path]

only uses the charge for that character so u still need to pull them out of lab

[mint rivet]

W1 FULLY WOWED

[full beacon]

for no bubble left behind, if it's not activated at reset (or when you first log on after a reset) do you lose the free bubbles for that day? or are you still able to get some free lvls by activating it at any point in the day

[brisk ore]

ripparoni pepparoni

[mint rivet]

3% of my candy stash is gone 😦

[wild urchin]

Get silkskin get your hunter for preset two put all of it in trapping you can see more with !huntchart in #bot-commands

[wild urchin]

How much does the poop card give

[mint rivet]

and damn a lot of statues

[mint rivet]

60%

[wild urchin]

Goated

[mint rivet]

i used a rubifier on it like a year ago

that rubifier served me well until now, was worth it

[median olive]

how to get this higer on archer

[mint rivet]

||Alchemy||

[mint rivet]

now time for W2 wow

[brisk ore]

I've got 2 5 star cardifiers, is there any cards that are like, super optimal to 5 star first?

[mint rivet]

ctroll, any emperor, genie, poop

[thorny zinc]

just got to 4k stamps lvls

[mint rivet]

world 6 smh

[low arrow]

Pop card 5star mmmm

[shadow grotto]

Should I push for Void tools and dementia gear then start savig up candies i have literally nothing

[thorny zinc]

yes

[thorny zinc]

i cant upgrade them now because of capacity

[wild urchin]

Amarok armor is enough to push through w4

[mint rivet]

[shadow grotto]

I dont wnat it to take forever

[thorny zinc]

perfection

[wild urchin]

Dont even bother starting those without getting to w5

[shadow grotto]

tf

[wild urchin]

Gear doesnt make that much of a difference

[mint rivet]

its not even that crazy, I am midgame, look at endgamers and u'll see trillions of kills

oh hello there lad

[thorny zinc]

thats the last skull tho right?

bro literally finished the game in 1 week

[wild urchin]

MIDGAME??

[shadow grotto]

WHERE ARE YOU?

[mint rivet]

I have been declared midgame by the God

[tardy plaza]

Looks like I'm a new born baby guys

[mint rivet]

on Earth, why?

#endgame-gen-chat

[shadow grotto]

How do you see what tier you are on autoreview

[shadow grotto]

Cause im personally chillin in blackhole

[wild urchin]

Also me personally get through w4 you need like 16K accuracy or smth and also focus on the skull piles in the lab

[mint rivet]

it showsat the top, but by world

[tardy plaza]

Honestly I might still be in the womb if your mid game

[wild urchin]

Then when you get to w5 you can use the new stones

[brisk ore]

how does the taste test ability work exactly?

[mint rivet]

just look at endgame chat and u'll understand why I am in the middle of abslute beggining and insane endgame

[brisk ore]

like, it just cooks 1 of everything that's cooking in the kitchen? even new recipies?

[mint rivet]

did you read talent description?

[tardy plaza]

Now that I think about it, my parents haven't even had a child yet

[brisk ore]

Yes, and it doesn't make much sense to me. that's why I phrased my question differently to how the description is written.

[shadow grotto]

Where is Voidwalker quest man

[cosmic glade]

Taste test finishes all recipes that you have completed and saves a certain percentage of the progress to reclaim if needed

[mint rivet]

idk either, I never used it

[mint rivet]

w4 town, u need to be lvl 150 on mman to see him

[brisk ore]

so, no insta-new recipies then?

eh, it's probably still good.

[tardy plaza]

Bruh I am in world 4 and just learned there's more merit shops besides world 1 merit shop

[brisk ore]

bruh

[cosmic glade]

If you have a recipe that can unlock multiple new meals and you luck out with unlocking one, then the next unlock progress is sooner

[brisk ore]

some of them are good, too. have fun shoppin!

[shadow grotto]

Golly

[cosmic glade]

Or if you are going for very low chance meals, then you are just making the next claim sooner.

[mint rivet]

higher kph than gmush is insane, that is why mob density matters a crap ton

[brisk ore]

oh, OH. it doesn't instantly fill the bar, you mean. it just "finishes" the thing?

Oh wow that's VERY different in function. than you so much.

[tardy plaza]

OMG I was struggling so much with unlocking the new equipment cause I didn't have enough unlock points

[mint rivet]

w2 fully wowed

[tardy plaza]

So I just ran with boxing gloves on all characters

[mint rivet]

are u srs rn

[tardy plaza]

Yea and I just noticed some abilities don't work with boxing gloves for some reason

[shadow grotto]

What tier should i try to get to?

[mint rivet]

at least u took the time to craft boxing gloves, that's dedication

[brisk ore]

how tf did you get to w3???

[shadow grotto]

what are boxing gloves

The super bad weapons?

[mint rivet]

[mint rivet]

only time u should run some gloves is stingers on bubo, until godshard staff

[brisk ore]

very very earlygame weapons that are better fit for the secret class, tbh

[shadow grotto]

What tier should i get autoreview

[tardy plaza]

Upgrade vault

[wild urchin]

Wrong place mb

@mint rivet now do w6

[lusty citrus]

Currently dancing at W4 for achievment at pizza server 5

[shadow grotto]

what achievement

[mint rivet]

i don't even have w6 unlocked past ceramics

[lusty citrus]

Dance with 5 other people at w4

[wild urchin]

Do w4 then

[mint rivet]

am doing w3

[wild urchin]

W7 when?

[mint rivet]

oh I am dumb, I forgot candy gives charge

[shadow grotto]

im hollanding in town

[mint rivet]

anotha one down

[long night]

Any kind gamer wanna gift me a slug pet?

[mint rivet]

i wish I had it

[shadow grotto]

Are you just 100% the game rn

[mint rivet]

wdym 100%

[shadow grotto]

how do i put my guild in guild recruiting

[shadow grotto]

Alchemy and cards everything done

[brisk ore]

hm, does "speed in town skills" buff labs exp rate?

the starsign, bob build guy

[mint rivet]

u can never finish alchemy

[mint rivet]

bob build guy?

[shadow grotto]

mean vials

[mint rivet]

u can never finish all vials

[mint rivet]

idk if that affects lab, I mean lab speed stat sounds weird

that's a lot of rings

[compact pagoda]

why ring hoarding

[ripe coyote]

How much of idol skilling does one have to play to get that code?

[mint rivet]

w3 WOWED!

[tardy plaza]

Anyone got king doot looking to trade air for it

[mint rivet]

I wish

[turbid stump]

I done it! So cool, now i need to wait for the dream lol

[sinful bolt]

Crystal not being Ruby is sad

[mint rivet]

never had a reason to dk farm there

it will be rubied after I onyx the w3 statues via ES

[sinful bolt]

Gold Food

[tardy plaza]

Should 8th character be divine knight?

[shadow grotto]

Should I run two dks one bb or opposite

[mint rivet]

moving onto w4 wow

[compact pagoda]

get 2 dk

[mint rivet]

why is this not triggering, i checked deathnote multiple times

[turbid stump]

Try clousaving ngl

Someone has same issues with it today

[mint rivet]

yoo it worked, just tripled my dmg

[turbid stump]

The amount of things cloudsaving is fixing in this game is astonishing

[mint rivet]

spaghetti code moment

[turbid stump]

Damn nice bonus

Im still working on 1m kills on my bb, at w4 rn

[mint rivet]

nice, I personally did 1m kills w1-w3 while also doing quest vman quest

2 birds 1 stone

[turbid stump]

My bb dmg was very bad at the time, was doing vman quest with all my chars lol

[mint rivet]

w4 is the point where wowing does not give ruby cards

i got like 40% of what's needed

[turbid stump]

Money is always the problem

I had thoose coins and from one side its alot of coins, but from other side its just few upgrages (if not one) 🫠

[mint rivet]

THOSE STAMps and vault eat all the money up

[turbid stump]

They are fr

Forge stamp my most hated rn lol

[mint rivet]

just wait until dna and atom stamp

[turbid stump]

Oh yeah and dna as well, dont have atom one tho

[shadow grotto]

whats wowing

[turbid stump]

1b kills if i recall

Or how much is it

[mint rivet]

it can give upwards of 60% gfood %

[sinful bolt]

Is that bonus additive with Peachring or

[mint rivet]

i think additive, multi would be too op

[sinful bolt]

Yeah, not gonna bother doing that for a while then

[mint rivet]

I wanted to get eclipse skulls, and I said why not also wow at the same time

[tardy plaza]

Can they add a clicker game to world 3 please

[shadow grotto]

how do you getthe really good premium equipment with being broke

[sinful bolt]

Farm gems, or swipe, I suppose

[mint rivet]

alr has equinox

[tardy plaza]

What's dat

[mint rivet]

events give some

[zenith hare]

correct

[mint rivet]

a big timegate

w4 wowed!

[tardy plaza]

Clicker game?

[zenith hare]

dont, amarok is both cheaper and better

[zenith hare]

owl and roo

[mint rivet]

[tardy plaza]

No I mean equinox

[mint rivet]

meme, do I continue with w5?

[zenith hare]

no.

[zenith hare]

up to you

[tardy plaza]

There's equinox

How do I get equinox

[mint rivet]

is this good kph for wowing w5?

[zenith hare]

or context why: the clickers is the most hated updates as of recent

[zenith hare]

go up to the 100k portal map on staches

then go past the 250k portal map on rams

[zenith hare]

its alright, could be better but could be worse

[tardy plaza]

Is that suppos to be doable 😭 😭 😭

[zenith hare]

its meant for mid w4

[mint rivet]

so it wouldn't be a dumb decision to wow it

[zenith hare]

the mobs even have mid w4 stats, minus acc

[native gull]

what should i get for dmg as bb

[zenith hare]

portal jumpscare

[zenith hare]

what is ur damage at?

[slender lichen]

what is your kph

[mint rivet]

if u get past that portal on a DB, is it an automatic wow?

[boreal olive]

wait a sec... colliseum kills dont count for deathnote?

[zenith hare]

i get it done in just over an hour

[native gull]

400k-1m got bb like 2 minutes ago

[slender lichen]

neat

[zenith hare]

nope

[mint rivet]

minibosses?

[zenith hare]

you have enough to kill troll

[brave swallow]

how do I get done with portal kills in world 4 faster?

[zenith hare]

1mill max damage is all you need

[icy mantle]

meme bean i have a question

[zenith hare]

get killersbright side in lab

[native gull]

bro im on genie map i told u i got bb 2 minutes ago

[zenith hare]

and for you, get more mk/t as you have mk

[mint rivet]

go active, have killer brightside lab node active

[zenith hare]

yes and you dont need more damage

[white lintel]

Mk in w4?

[icy mantle]

u said 200 gems via giants here but like from how many giants? till which giant mob odds @zenith hare

[zenith hare]

1mill max damage is enough to kill troll

[brave swallow]

Is there any way to do that without having all my character afk?

[white lintel]

Not yet

[zenith hare]

no, and you should stay in there

[native gull]

how to get more accuracy tho

[white lintel]

Secondary stat and acc %

[zenith hare]

50 giants. its what i average every week. odds get up to 1/200k

[mint rivet]

i get about 120 a week from giants, i go until about 1/50k chance

[brave swallow]

so I gotta get that one divinity thing first?

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed
w4 needs 15k acc by the end of it

[icy mantle]

thats the average bro? i increase it to like 50k

[zenith hare]

which is in w5 yeah. for now shove them in

[brave swallow]

alr

[native gull]

what are w1/2 clickers

[icy mantle]

is there way to get the giants quicker?

[white lintel]

Owl and roo

[zenith hare]

owl and roo

[white lintel]

High true kph toons like bubo farming

[zenith hare]

shrine, active bubo, active db non wraith form

[mint rivet]

FINALLY VMAN GLOVES

[native gull]

is roo on lvl 30 fishing map ?

[zenith hare]

no its on crabcake map

[white lintel]

Secret map from w2 shop

[icy mantle]

need 200 tent right?

[zenith hare]

yes

[vale escarp]

is there a guide for refinery ranking?

[white lintel]

Pins

[icy mantle]

i have 198 lvl bro... need 6k blue salt for the last upgrade

almost there

[zenith hare]

soon

[native gull]

how do i enter roo's domain

[vale escarp]

ty!

[white lintel]

Secret map from w2 shop

[zenith hare]

use the map on the special tiles on crabcake map

[echo radish]

Meme when update

[zenith hare]

when i decide (not yet)

[native gull]

i thout thats for th but ty

[white lintel]

Never gonna be an update

[strange flare]

never gonna give you (an) up(date)

[white lintel]

Leave the server

[strange flare]

[mint rivet]

watch lava type out another essay on how this is the biggest non world update and that it will take 2 months

[shadow grotto]

how do you do lab i dont understand how to do it while doing other things

[echo radish]

[zenith hare]

you dont till w5

and fyi: you dont actually want to skill in w4

reason being is mman needs to be highest in w1-3 skills minus alch and const

and you cant exactly do that if you overlevel the shit out of ur chars

and printer makes up for the loss in afk time

[shadow grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[zenith hare]

as lab gives a 2x boost to printer for whoever is in lab

this talent is why

[echo radish]

I'm sad now, all occidos fault for telling me about this fr fr

[shadow grotto]

Im constantly skilling for gear though and i cant relly do it cause i need to wait like weeks to do alch bubbles for skills for maestro

[mint rivet]

new slab

[zenith hare]

you dont need gear better then amarok till mid-late w4

which amarok needs nearly 0 skilling or mob farming

AND is better then everything minus dementia

[shadow grotto]

So should i nly be doing mining for dementia then just push

[zenith hare]

no as dementia isnt even needed

people push to w6 in amarok

[native gull]

berserker

[zenith hare]

and its not exactly hard due to the fact healing food exists

[shadow grotto]

But i like it

[zenith hare]

okay

then print dementia

dont mine it, only print it

[shadow grotto]

ok

should i only skill meastro

[mint rivet]

W5 (besides the mushrooms) HAS BEEN FULLY WOWED

[icy mantle]

ts pmo

[native gull]

what

[zenith hare]

for now yes

[mint rivet]

ggs

[zenith hare]

layering error!!!!!!!

report the bug!!!!!

[mint rivet]

actually?

[zenith hare]

its just a visual so eh but yeah

[mint rivet]

alr

[cold wraith]

what was your kph

[native gull]

why

[mint rivet]

what map

[zenith hare]

ive done it

[slender lichen]

now i can chuck books at people

[mint rivet]

ggs

[zenith hare]

ive actually used my books

that is 320 checkouts worth

[mint rivet]

4.3x MULTI, HUGE

But

Was it worth it?

[slender lichen]

yes

[mint rivet]

lemme show you my candy stash BEFORE and after

[slender lichen]

what did you actually think that you were killing them?

i mean they just respawn

could you imagine that though

just seeing a guy and being killed over and over?

npcs must be afraid of you ngl

[mint rivet]

BEFORE

[echo radish]

Imagine how much fun gmush and wurms have

[native gull]

useless

[mint rivet]

after!!

[zenith hare]

i was meaning to book right hand and some of the damage talents on vman for a long time

got like a 40% damage increase via it

[mint rivet]

20% OF MY CANDY STASH vanished, thin air

for 66 wows and 65 eclipse skulls, 4.3x dmg multi, ton of multikill

[zenith hare]

that doesnt add up

[mint rivet]

doing it later in time would have costed less candies

[zenith hare]

a wow IS an eclipse

[mint rivet]

gmush was alr eclipsed, i gained 65 new eclipses, 66 wows

[zenith hare]

smh

[brave swallow]

what is the main thing that buffs damage to the point that people get like 1 trillion damage?

[mint rivet]

ALCHEMY

[zenith hare]

progressing in the game

[brave swallow]

any specific bubbles?

[zenith hare]

no its w6 skills and hole

[mint rivet]

alchemy buffs you the most dmg wise, literally the most

[zenith hare]

alchemy is the slow and painful way to do it

[mint rivet]

the power of thri bubbles are notable

[zenith hare]

yes if you hourly click for months on end!

[zenith hare]

only ab a 5x damage increase

[brave swallow]

alr

[mint rivet]

nah, just a month of casually atom clicking and it outscales other stuff

[zenith hare]

it doesnt, trust me

[mint rivet]

keep in mind the amount of bubbles that contribute in one way or another to dmg

[mint rivet]

so far I'm yet to see a bigger dmg source than alchemy

imagine Your account without it, different is huge
A begginers account without alchemy, difference isn't huge

[zenith hare]

if you were to look at ur total damage sources, youll notice a distinct lack of alch

[echo radish]

Well the base damage bubbles are huge

[mint rivet]

other sources combined are indeed more powerful than alchemy

[zenith hare]

used to be

[echo radish]

And the base stat bubbles too

[zenith hare]

its total stat

[echo radish]

Still are

[echo radish]

Ye ik still op

[mint rivet]

i only remember the quickslap nerf in alchemy

[zenith hare]

its op if you make a large yes

[mint rivet]

other than that, nothing

[zenith hare]

yes and that made alchemy more then 1000x worse

[mint rivet]

oh with w7 many will have it as large as lategamers get now

[mint rivet]

not every class is archer

[zenith hare]

quick slap still omega buffed everyone

move speed potions isnt archer locked

[mint rivet]

its a bubble nerf, not more than 1, mostly affecting achers

I believe that quickslap deserved that nerf

imagine the dmg u would have had in w6 with quickslap and w6 buffs

[shadow grotto]

Does maestro level affect smithing or no and 1-3mil damage good for w4

[mint rivet]

compared to nightmare emperor hp

[zenith hare]

we'd be in Es

[mint rivet]

didn't some1 alr reach E24 max dmg?

[zenith hare]

a max damage of 1mill is all you need

[zenith hare]

yeah recently

though doesnt loop over to Es due to the number condense

[brave swallow]

does blood berserker have generally less damage than siege breaker?

[zenith hare]

i think Es appear 27 now? maybe 30

[zenith hare]

later on yes, early on no

[brave swallow]

so then why is my siege breaker dealing like 5x more damage

[zenith hare]

cause youve focused more on ur sb and have done 0 zows

[brave swallow]

cause I really want to have like a really strong deathbringer by the time I get to world 6

[icy mantle]

how do i increase the connection range bro i want that buff 😭

[mint rivet]

why are the eclipse skulls not buffing my dmg? earlier i had 10000T+ with less eclipse skulls, even cloudsaved now

[zenith hare]

!insight search connect range

[candid scarab]

https://idleoninsight.com/ - 3rd party site made by Corbeno

[rugged blade]

i cant remember, does trapping xp go to the character that placed the trap even if they placed for other characters, or does it all go to each character individually

[brave swallow]

I have done nothing on my siege breaker besides get forge levels and movement speed, also what are sows?

[zenith hare]

go to rift and check eclipse, then cloud save

[zenith hare]

move speed is where SBs damage comes from

and is also why sb deals so much god damn damage later on

we can reach like 8k% move speed

[cosmic flame]

just got to world 4 what should I use my cosmic candy on?

[brave swallow]

damn, I thought 200% was a lot

[zenith hare]

hold

[mint rivet]

did that again, still does not work

[zenith hare]

close and reopen the game mayhaps?

[brave swallow]

but also what are zows? The 100k kills thing?

[mint rivet]

maybe i need to check deathnote too again

[zenith hare]

yes

!zow

[brave swallow]

alr ty

[candid scarab]

It's a talent in the third tab for barbarians, which increases their damage by 2-6% for every 100k kills on unique mobs they have. You can check the current number of kills your barbarian has by going to the monster's card while on that character.

[cosmic flame]

until when?

[zenith hare]

when you can reach the end with all the candies you have on hand

[mint rivet]

alr doing that rn

[zenith hare]

a lot of w4 skills are afk based so the longer you hold onto it, the more use the candy itself with have

[cosmic flame]

okok ty

[zenith hare]

soon

gimmie thy godshard trap!

[viral vapor]

I never thought about using cosmic on lab and stuff

[zenith hare]

you cant

[mint rivet]

why is ur efficiency so low

[zenith hare]

cause eff doesnt change the xp much and its on vman

and im on fighting setup

[icy mantle]

so basically i can not increase it

[zenith hare]

doing crystals for xp

[zenith hare]

for now

[mint rivet]

eh, i expected u to be in the hundreds of B's

[fathom timber]

where can I find the google sheet which explains all the tower defence displays?

[zenith hare]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[zenith hare]

this plays a part

[mint rivet]

reoped the game , STILL THIS DMG

[zenith hare]

then its applied

its additive to ur other damage multi reminder

[mint rivet]

No way I am finally better than you!

[zenith hare]

cause i dont hourly click nor do i waste atoms on something that scales nearly 0 xp

[mint rivet]

i did not hourly click this

yet

[mint rivet]

its not a waste, actually good bubble

[zenith hare]

the problem is youre willing to do so

[zenith hare]

look at the scaling, all it helps for its critter gain

[mint rivet]

it can't be, I changed nothing besides the amount of eclipse skulls obtained, and my dmg is 2.5x lower than before, when I had less eclipse skulls

[mint rivet]

critter gain is nice, no?

[zenith hare]

not when youre maxed out

[rain scroll]

im back after a 5d mute guys uhh

[zenith hare]

smh

[mint rivet]

don't the critters just stack up over 1050m if u collect/automation collects and you don't change map? making u able to click bubles like thse multiple times?

[fossil hatch]

Ohh, I griffy guide

[zenith hare]

it doesnt

[fossil hatch]

Can’t way to learn something

[mint rivet]

For the unconventional clicking methods screenshot?

[mint rivet]

so all critters can't go above 1050m like other mats in ur chest, as long as u don't change map?

[rain scroll]

ima go off bye gn

[zenith hare]

it can but fuc that

[mint rivet]

Gn

[mint rivet]

oh so there is a reason for efficiency

we all know, begger bubble = beeger flex

[zenith hare]

also means youre compensatiting for smth

[frozen yacht]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[mint rivet]

not always

oh @zenith hare , remember the problem I just had with dmg and eclipse skulls?

[zenith hare]

yu

[mint rivet]

I was on skilling tab 😮‍💨

holy am so dumb

[zenith hare]

smh

[mint rivet]

real dmg is indeed 3.5x higher than i started with

also randomly gained 10k+ str stat

also, my cooking JUST GOT this insane speed boost, before it was at 1x (since no schows)

[terse haven]

im in w4, should I use different armor than amarok now?

[dense pine]

nah

maybe a dementia helmet if you feel like it

[terse haven]

I have a amarok helmet

[mint rivet]

Well those were 2 long hours of progress and wowing, but now am tired asf

Goodnight everyone

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-gif-13225090997716353313

@white lintel finally did what u said

[ancient island]

what food should i save my ribbons for? i just got to w4 and i dont wanna waste any

[terse haven]

I wasted my best ribbon on the first food

[full beacon]

any reason the hallowed tail pendant isn't a gear rec? is it just too expensive to get on everyone early on?

[zenith hare]

gfood%, basic attack speed, TD points

[zenith hare]

that the base mk% one?

[full beacon]

yea

[zenith hare]

cause mk% is utter trash

you want mk/t

[full beacon]

ooouu fair enough

[zenith hare]

oh wow +30%!

[quiet crane]

cool glunko bean

[zenith hare]

yeah it scales real trash later

[zenith hare]

if you remove ur clammie, you get it back

[quiet crane]

im fine with clammie

hes a chill dude

[zenith hare]

glunk

[dense pine]

dont hate, i get 3 extra kills at gmush every hour on to my 10m per hour, it adds up

[zenith hare]

compare it to div scarf

or even the mob respawn pendant in dungeon shop

[dense pine]

div scarf sucks tho.

[quiet crane]

what.

[dense pine]

lmao but yea, base mk is ass

[zenith hare]

yeah lets go with that

[dense pine]

[vale escarp]

how can I get higher mk per tier

[dense pine]

death note

[vale escarp]

is that the only way?

[dense pine]

alchemy, stamps, more damage

a lot of stuff, death note is just the most basic

better skulls=more mk per tier

[vale escarp]

ah alright ty!!!!

[dense pine]

any time

[odd mesa]

Hi guys

I have question, my worship in word 3 (the snowman) I cant gain much from it.

It gives me 36 soul each time

And every strategy I use I won't gain more than 36 soul

What should I do

[abstract rain]

Hey, I don't have much kph, I'm in late w4 and want to get my vman. Is there a strat to quickly do my 1m kill in w 1-2-3 ? Actually I'm around 6k-8k kph on my characters on w1, so yes... super long if I do it the regular way

[abstract rain]

Reach an higher wave, use your hunter for that

[turbid stag]

upgrade your TD bonuses and towers

[turbid stag]

use all characters to farm kills and improve things that increases kph

[odd mesa]

The problem is that I can't go higher than waves 25

[turbid stag]

do you use these towers? @odd mesa

[odd mesa]

TD bonuses? What are they

[turbid stag]

stuff like Cannoli Meal and slow roast wiz from equinox

[modern gate]

further upgrades to your towers in construction, vital for w3 TD and above

my bad

[odd mesa]

I dont have the black one and I mostly use that brown one

[modern gate]

Speaking of I should REALLY unlock equinox

[abstract rain]

That sounds so hard, with my actual rates it'd take ~5 day to get 1m with one character, so all together, I could get 1m on 8 monsters types every 5 days. Meaning 25 days doing that non-stop in order to get my 40 x 1m stacks

[turbid stag]

brown? so boulder roller?

[odd mesa]

Yup

[abstract rain]

Ok deathnote should build itself with the task so probably less the more I do it, but still

[wintry grove]

is this meant to happen

[mossy anvil]

yo, where can i find that tierlist of items worth buiying in world tab fro gems

[turbid stag]

Based on this you might just have to do other things than focusing on getting Vman.
I would love to help you improve your account, could we talk in DMs?

[abstract rain]

Sure, thank you for your help 🙂

[brave swallow]

to buff blood berserker damage do I just kill 100k mobs a bunch of times?

[turbid stag]

I recommend focusing on Trapping and Exp Cogs and anything else you need to unlock all buildings in Construction.
Improve your build speed and upgrade your Towers after frozone malone and you will get higher waves later.

[vale escarp]

ye gotta be a different one each time I think

[brave swallow]

alr, imma do that while I have my siege breaker clear world 4

[restive heath]

How do I get sample for the 3d printer?

[odd mesa]

I'm doing it

[split beacon]

wait does this have the same bug as super chow?

[odd mesa]

And if I want gain a million afk per hour for skills what should I do?

[native gull]

Any1 have a bb DMG build?

[abstract rain]

speaking about bb, is apocalypse zow bonus account-wide ?

[native gull]

Idk i got to W4 and candied till elitus Like 4 mins ago

[abstract rain]

ahah nice, gg !

[split beacon]

zow is the barb one and is not account wide

[restive heath]

How do I get samples for the printer?

[split beacon]

TALENT

[rough hedge]

What class is best for farming cards?

DK or meastro?

or anyone else

[abstract rain]

Thanks !

[vale escarp]

I think ES

[split beacon]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1343435584164597780

[visual dove]

sorry!

[terse haven]

I need hit chance

[rough hedge]

max your accuracy class skill

[tardy plaza]

Flying to moon like I'm dancing to the tune

[restive heath]

Talent. Doesn't tell me anything honestly. If it's a star talent I'm missing it, if it's Super Sample well I ain't getting any samples.

[terse haven]

book of wise is 100 for my squire

[vale escarp]

level up shaquracy (alchemy bubble that gives accuracy)

[terse haven]

no liquid

[rough hedge]

how much accuracy does your upgrade vault have?

[sleek bane]

you get the star talent from doing the ice cream guys questline

unless it's bugged rn

[restive heath]

Thank you

[restive heath]

Then yes I was missing said talent

[terse haven]

for some reason im missing the base stats stamps

[rough hedge]

put some money into that and the mastery

yeah get stamps to

[terse haven]

like I dont have the magic stamp

[white lintel]

resample?

[rough hedge]

i think the owl and mouse give accuracy bonuses too

[odd mesa]

Why I cant send pictures?

[astral lava]

!image

[candid scarab]

Why can't I send images?

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[odd mesa]

Oh ok

Thanks

[terse haven]

Oh right

[lusty bay]

anyone know if this resets next week?

[full beacon]

it resets with diminishing returns

[lusty bay]

wat

[lusty bay]

im talking abt the quest

like does it have to be all 5 at once

[full beacon]

yea, like those things that you dump the toxic sludge on

oh

no

[brazen flax]

How you get golden twine for troll armour

[sleek bane]

drops from flombeige

[brazen flax]

Alr cheers

[green glade]

guys, for my construction, should I be going full exp?

[sleek bane]

yes

[abstract rain]

Where are your other char

[green glade]

cog board

[sleek bane]

[abstract rain]

Oh ok ! I'm doing the opposite strat, all my non DK char on the mainboard, and my 2 DKs on cogs board

dunno if it's best tho

[brave swallow]

how do I make the lab lines longer?

is levelling up the only way?

[abstract rain]

level it up + bubo has skills that helps with that too

[ionic narwhal]

Definitely not the way lmao

[green glade]

yeah do the opposite of that

[sleek bane]

thats what you do when you're spam clicking cogs

💀

not for br

[abstract rain]

You convinced me lol, it sounded good at first

I'm switching them

[turbid stag]

well if you need cogs right away it is good

but you want your DKs at the board to get levels for Construction = higher build speed

[abstract rain]

In fact' I've done it in order to fill my board fast at the beginning, then I wanted to get the best cogs possible quick

But now that I think about it, that's definitely not the way

[sleek bane]

99% of your br will be from your dks later on

[brave swallow]

what is the best way to get gems as an f2p?

[green glade]

gold axe in w5 is crazy tho

[full beacon]

so is baseball cap xD

[turbid stag]

Spike Trap minigame, Minibosses, Giant Monsters and Bosses.
Liquid Shop (buy 1 and 2 gems)

[full beacon]

unless you premiumed it

[sleek bane]

making full void tools too much effort 👍

[green glade]

yeah I premiumed it

[brave swallow]

what is a good way to get the giant monster spawn rates up?

[green glade]

my my acutal helmet its dementia

[brave swallow]

because it keeps getting rarer and rarer

[full beacon]

leave your computer on and go to sleep

massive rate up

[zenith hare]

200 or so a week via giants, 40 a day via w2 minibosses, 32 a week via w3-6 minibosses, 70 a day via world boss grind, rest via level up gift and stuff

[turbid stag]

you wait for weekly reset.

[green glade]

I noticed that in the old days, even with good armor you couldn't have that much defense
sitll , but that at with amarok armor is all thanks to the vault

[full beacon]

there's this too

[sleek bane]

def is like super irrelevant later anyway

[green glade]

true

so crafting better armor is a win win

but void armor looks so difficult 😭

[white lintel]

its only like 400 blue salts

[white lintel]

dawg den tho

[sleek bane]

oh yea thats a thing

[pulsar oracle]

i got a w4 question. i'm like, middish way through w4. 8 characters (including a maestro). at what point should i stop having lots of people in the lab maintaining bonuses? everyone is like, level 30+ now. I haven't been able to buy any chips yet. The bonuses seem great but the character can't do anything

[sleek bane]

you basically wanna keep the bonuses up until you push to w5

you want lvl 75 lab on everyone as a baseline anyways

[white lintel]

nah, you only need lab 75 for the chips and you wont have enough chips to use all the slots for a while

[white lintel]

youll get a perma lab system in w5

[full beacon]

how many weeks of afking is lvl 75 lol

[sleek bane]

ah yea i should have phrased it better i meant eventually you want 75 on everyone as a baseline

[full beacon]

I spent like a couple days and my guys are lvl 10

[white lintel]

you shouldnt worry about lab 75 until probably like w5 or 6

for w4 you want these

[pulsar oracle]

is the little shop thing next to the lab setup in w4 hub the only way to get chips? sucks to have the shop refresh into a bunch of shit i dont have access to for multiple days

[true hamlet]

It's not like someone just entering w4 can afford any either way

[full beacon]

wow that's a lot of range per char, something to look forward to I guess

[white lintel]

yes, its on a weekly cycle, but you can also gamble chips in gem shop

[white lintel]

the first toon connected to the prism cant ever disconnect from it, I can pull him to the very end and hell still be connected to the prism and every other toon as well

[pulsar oracle]

hm i see. question: i haven't gotten my first chip yet. are they universal unlocks or more like pieces of gear where I'll need multiple copies of one chip

[modern gate]

wait... I can increase my chances of getting more pop obols by getting more multikill??? 🤦‍♂️

[white lintel]

more like gear

[full beacon]

is that an unlock or something?

[white lintel]

is what?

[full beacon]

infinite range for 1st char

[white lintel]

no

[pulsar oracle]

ah chip gambling seems eh then for where i'm at. just gonna put it out of mind for a bit and maybe stop making myself keep the 2x stamp bonus active so more can push

[white lintel]

I just have lots of line width

[full beacon]

oh lol

[sleek bane]

wait im copying that setup im wasting so many toons

[white lintel]

my set up is very not optimized

i have doot

[full beacon]

yea I didn't even bother with lab when I first enter w4, push for elite class and stuff first

[sleek bane]

mine is even worse

[white lintel]

once you get all elites, resample everyone and throw everyone in lab

[full beacon]

I'm close, 1 map away

should be there in like 5 hours

[pulsar oracle]

resampling is boring and i never know whats best to get. are there any super high priorities i'm being dumb about?

[lunar basin]

dang arctis helped me improve half my lab layout

[white lintel]

how??

[true hamlet]

Honestly, the biggest bottleneck is connection range

[lunar basin]

it was a joke lol because your layout is way better than mine but can only see half lol

[white lintel]

depends on where your at in the game

theres a good set up if youre mid to late game but I dont think youre there yet

[brave swallow]

how do I get more connection range in lab?

besides just leveling up

[full beacon]

cards I know

[oak mason]

Lvling, meals, put your bubo on the right

[white lintel]

theres con range and line width, which do you mean?

[lunar basin]

pffft im almost at the w6 boss just my stupid autoreview is broken

[oak mason]

Assuming you dont mean con range yeah

[lunar basin]

sorry more jokes lol

[shadow grotto]

Will someone join my guild its called Void Gang only like lvl 5 i pesonally max out weekly tasks

[brave swallow]

me?

[lunar basin]

i really like my guild name. would it be ok if i joined on my alt? i made it for quests that need partners

[brave swallow]

did I not say which?

[lunar basin]

to help ppl

[shadow grotto]

ok

[oak mason]

Just making sure tbh, most times people us the terms interchangeably

[white lintel]

theyre easily confused, and you could just be refering to line witdth while saying con range bc they sound like the same thing

[brave swallow]

i mean doesn’t width refer to the thickness of the line?

[white lintel]

line width is toon to toon, con range is node to toon

[lunar basin]

ok i just logged on holanding, carrot server 15 w1?

[brave swallow]

ok

[shadow grotto]

what name is yurs

[white lintel]

so do you want node to toon range or toon to toon range?

[brave swallow]

toon to toon range ig

[white lintel]

mainly lab lvls and cooking

[brave swallow]

alr

[white lintel]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=line

also these

[brave swallow]

ok ty

[lunar basin]

wow thats so good to know mr arctis

[shadow grotto]

Could someone else also join my guild besides sniper

[white path]

might be a good idea to post in #1073780959087964210

[shadow grotto]

i cant

Hod up unlocked

[topaz flare]

for the dango meal, when it says upgrade, does that mean the speed/fire/luck upgrade or the plate upgrades?

[lunar basin]

its crazy, i made an account to help people with quests, played it 4 times for maybe 8 minutes in total and it has purple coins

1 star, game sucks

[white lintel]

the power creep has been insane

[shadow grotto]

Why does Roo take like a day to get the first megafish

[white lintel]

the tsar is for fight power not forage power, for whoever just asked

[thin iron]

So I’m early W3 progression and things like fishing and catching feel so fking slow. Even though I made all the efficiency armor. Do rates just feel awful for a long time? What main things do I need to work on to make them better.

[lunar basin]

just an fyi hard focusing on skilling comes at a huge opportunity cost.. mainly focus on stamps tbh

need help knowing what quests give stamps you can wiki stamp list and then just look at the quest from there