midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[exotic swallow]

getting better is the shortcut

[odd obsidian]

the only shortcut is connecting him to killer brightside and nobisect

[untold geyser]

"Do more damage" isn't much of a shortcut 😛

[exotic swallow]

ok 💳 is this a better shortcut?

[untold geyser]

i'll have to double check kthe nobisect but, he's definately connected to the lab thing

[odd obsidian]

its like any mob, basically

get more kpk, get more multikill%, afk gains

[exotic swallow]

yeah just get better

[odd obsidian]

then the only shortcut is running through your entire candy stash

[untold geyser]

Guess I'll ask this in the right channel...

[latent bramble]

cosmics

[knotty falcon]

Hey, for refinery, do you push as much as you can (as long as you follow that one rule in the pins)? Or is there like a bad breakpoint for materials.

[steel sage]

Ignore the efficiency loss from ranking up, the production speed is way way more important

I'm like two months behind on refinery because I thought about material efficiency and can't craft w4 gear in w6

[thorny zinc]

hi everyone

[ruby loom]

im trying to boost my multikill actively, been doing it on elemental sorcercer. is there another class I should be activing instead for higher rates?

[white lintel]

once your acc has any sort of foundation, managing refinery material costs is not an issue, push for the highest ranks as you can, while, as you said, keeping away from salt deficits. This is why people recomend never auto refining red or green salts as they are the base which dictates how high your other ranks can get

[white lintel]

as in deathnote farming?

[cold crescent]

Is there a max ribbon?

[white lintel]

20: 5x boost

[ruby loom]

yes

[knotty falcon]

Got it, I'm around r40 on red and I've slowly been fixing the rest

[cold crescent]

I have a 17, so I guess I'll wait, thx

[storm heath]

is it possible to 3d print salts?

[white lintel]

no

[cold crescent]

No 😔

[storm heath]

ah damn

[cold crescent]

You can print materials for it

[storm heath]

so you only get those from refinery?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[untold geyser]

Good news is.. I have a vman... bad news is wow is there a lot of weird talents, and I have no idea what I'm doing again

[white lintel]

put your first into the first talent

[untold geyser]

Guessing there is a guide somwhere

[cold crescent]

Upgrade only the top left talent

[white lintel]

I can give you a run down

[untold geyser]

Void trial?

[ancient flame]

is there a max level for shiny pets?

[cold crescent]

Yep, it's the only way to get more talent points

[oak walrus]

Just print the mats u need for refinery

[white lintel]

equip it in the talent bar, and activate it, then get ready to speedrun the game

[cold crescent]

Besides mastero talent

[white lintel]

lvl 20

[ancient flame]

ty

[untold geyser]

Okay, I was about to ask about that one

Wow this class messes with all your characters

[white lintel]

vman is huge

provided youre ready for him

[cold crescent]

Basically vman tries to unlock as many portals as possible in a time limit, and that equals a set amount of talent points, the other talents either help him speedrun or boost everyones stats

[ancient flame]

imagine trying to max cooking without vman

[cold crescent]

His biggest strength is multi kill, just max it on another character as his speedrun skill deletes all of his recorded kills

[untold geyser]

Guessing it would be worth it to pull points out of other stuff to get "one step ahead" higher?

[knotty falcon]

I can't even max it with vman

[white lintel]

nmlb would be the only way to increase meal lvls basically

[cold crescent]

Hard, but technically possible with all the cavern bonuses

[ancient flame]

also vmans 3d prints during a void run, you kill a couple bosses for the extra respawn speed, use void radius and then take a print

[white lintel]

definately not, thats just a linear bonus it would take you like decades to make a even a tidbit of a fraction of progress

[ruby loom]

yes

[spiral mango]

Does eagles eye give each character their trapping xp?

[thorny zinc]

is this the right placing for graveyard?

[cold crescent]

I mean, it's possible, just takes forever

[dense pine]

yes

[white lintel]

do you have 200 tenteyecle bubo?

[thorny zinc]

thx

[turbid stump]

Got ignored lol

[thorny zinc]

like always

[ancient flame]

hello hi!

[ruby loom]

is that a statue

or a cauld

[cold crescent]

It's a secret class, so it's obviously designed to be optional (too helpful to miss though)

[dense pine]

any time

[ruby loom]

or a skill*

[white lintel]

talent

do you have it lvl 200+?

[ruby loom]

ive been on my elemental sorc, i dont have my library that well developed

[white lintel]

you w6 yet?

[ruby loom]

nope, only using it to get kills and resources from kills

[white lintel]

are you trying to get vman?

[turbid stump]

Why you using heart talent though? Do you know what it do?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[ruby loom]

no, just higher multi currently

[thorny zinc]

it boosted my damage from 300m to 600m

[dense pine]

be a good tallent?

[ruby loom]

while waiting on refinery for e v e r y t h i n g

[white lintel]

what world are you in then?

[ruby loom]

middle of 4 with elemental

[white lintel]

dont deathnote farm right now, push more worlds

[compact pagoda]

what's this

[turbid stump]

When that talent is good? Or its good if it has 1 point invested only?

[compact pagoda]

gambling

[dense pine]

its always good

more points=better

[turbid stump]

Idk mb im just bad

[white lintel]

the health cuck talent?

[thorny zinc]

trust the goofy ah cat with this one

[white lintel]

I hate that talent

[dense pine]

i think the only time it might screw you over is in like w2-3

otherwise its just free damage

[untold geyser]

Hmm... I see many of the vman's talents are also excluded from the rift slug... fun

[turbid stump]

Ah mb, i remember having struggles in crystal island cuz of that talent after that i havent used it

So as long as my dmg high that talent is good?

[thorny zinc]

the good part is it doesnt work in wrath form

so i dont need to unequip it or smth

[thorny zinc]

try it if you die you can just remove the points

but i doubt you will die from it

[dense pine]

yea no reason not to since you can reset it by holding it lol

[turbid stump]

Dam will try to use it next time

[turbid stump]

I will, after done my everyday cc cycle

[final scarab]

which order should i get my characters to elite class

i alr have dk

[thorny zinc]

its not really an order

just get all of them

[turbid stump]

I got unlocked all purple bubbles

[thorny zinc]

damn

[dense pine]

the first ones should be hunter, shaman ig, otherwise doesnt matter

[thorny zinc]

im just farming bones

[turbid stump]

Have you left your pc overnight or?

[thorny zinc]

no lol

[final scarab]

why hunter or shaman?

[white lintel]

I gave up on boning after my next upgrade time being a week straight of active afking

[dense pine]

lol

i didnt even get to w2 with boning.

[white lintel]

lemme see what its at rn

[thorny zinc]

finally smth that i can be better

[dense pine]

i dont think there any mobs actually worth farming in w2 for bones anyway

[thorny zinc]

only sandy pots if you want the second type of bones

[turbid stump]

Ppl usually jump at w3 straigh from sticks

[dense pine]

gz

[turbid stump]

They specialize in w4 skill shaman elite for lab, hunter elite for breeding

[dense pine]

just not worth my time since i dont have auto loot lol

[thorny zinc]

oh true

[dense pine]

and i dont enjoy reset mechanics

[white lintel]

the bone rates were pretty general, would prob need to test it for real to get better numbers but its in the ball park

[white lintel]

do you want autoloot?

[dense pine]

it would be nice to have i suppose

but i can live without it lol

[thorny zinc]

[white lintel]

I can gift it to you

[thorny zinc]

idleon rizz 2025

[dense pine]

i wouldnt mind

[thorny zinc]

dont forget to show her your prints💀

[dense pine]

eh?

[turbid stump]

Bro thats too much

[dense pine]

im too old for these words

[thorny zinc]

im joking she def needs auto loot

[white lintel]

I have small prints

[ruby loom]

is the only way to get autoloot through the bundle

[thorny zinc]

yes

[dense pine]

sameeee

i havent redone mine in a while actually

[ruby loom]

aaand i just missed it

[thorny zinc]

you cant miss it

[dense pine]

its always in

[ruby loom]

?

[thorny zinc]

press on the buy button

[mint rivet]

Greetings gentlemen and ladies!

[turbid stump]

If your prints small what about mine then imao

[dense pine]

click the settings button and on the top it should say buy auto loot

[ruby loom]

oooo

[mint rivet]

👋🏿

[thorny zinc]

hi

[ruby loom]

i see ty

[white lintel]

my current ore is like 500B but my print is like 50B, and you dont want to see my second page of characters

[thorny zinc]

yeah def small prints..

[ruby loom]

wait do i go and focus my bubonic or keep going with my es? i have like 40 levels on my es over bub since ive been focusing it

[sour lake]

How can i get the Rotating Special Packages to pop back up

[ruby loom]

go to buy gems

banner at the bottom

[mint rivet]

I wanna reach tier 17, how do I get those new stamps? any1 know about them?

[untold geyser]

... okay that's a crap ton of points the speed run gives 😮

[turbid stump]

Aint you got 90% print rate? Or its less print as its scale or what
Or its just you hadnt reasample in a while

[rustic oriole]

wheres the companion trading channel?

[turbid stump]

And my best print is 30m

[ruby loom]

might be outing myself as a dirty payer tho

[mint rivet]

p2w

whale

[ruby loom]

listen, i loved idle skill and this game

least i can do is throw a bit his way

[mint rivet]

still a whale

[ruby loom]

next pack that pops up im not buying until idle skilling is fixed on mobile kekw

does birthday card not do anything past getting the talent?

[compact pagoda]

get better gear

[oak tendon]

The recipe for birthday hat

[compact pagoda]

get tools

and coins

[ruby loom]

and that *, i only get coins now

[turbid stump]

You tell that as its 5 min things to do

[oak tendon]

I think that's it then

[compact pagoda]

it is

[turbid stump]

I think i will get marbiglass tools today tho

[compact pagoda]

just candy skills

[compact pagoda]

money 🤑🤑🤑🤑

[turbid stump]

You damn right

[mint rivet]

anotha 1k

[ruby loom]

so cool of flint michigan to make an appearance in the alchemy shop

[compact pagoda]

no way

bubble gaians

gains*

[mint rivet]

cycling chems is so fun

[mint rivet]

flint michigan? what's that

[compact pagoda]

u don't know that lmao

[white lintel]

my last sample was like december

and it was a really small one, only did like 3 toons

[ruby loom]

dirty water, really big like 10 years ago, was a huge deal for like a month. still have bad water btw lmao

[compact pagoda]

real

[white lintel]

you at instant gaming yet?

or 5 second gaming, or still stuck in log hell

[mint rivet]

i never tried

[mint rivet]

what is log hell, I did not use log since last year

[white lintel]

before 5 second gaming when you have to chem loop with logs and chems instead of waitng for a few second for another round of plants to pop up

current state of my prints

[mint rivet]

how did I get 12hr printer proc but I did not even get copper

copper is in a printer slot

[white lintel]

thats not a before and after image mind you, thats a front page SB and a second page SB

[white lintel]

send your 3d printer screen

[mint rivet]

stuff like flies did print

[white lintel]

sometimes it can take a few second to proc, check your storage again

[mint rivet]

still 49m

[white lintel]

yea not sure, unless you have copper in forge or something and claimed an archer

also your choice of prints is uhhhhh weird

[mint rivet]

why, I am trying to click bubbles

[ruby loom]

what is number for stonks

[white lintel]

all for kill?

[mint rivet]

what

[white lintel]

are you hourly clicking all for kill?

[mint rivet]

anotha one down

[mint rivet]

yes, trying to get it well out of the nblb range

anotha anotha one down

[thorny zinc]

congrats you are cooking so hard

[mint rivet]

soon I will have all mob mats vials maxed, besides some late w6 mob one

[white lintel]

I would just candy things you want to get out of nblb range as they come, hourly click more important things

[mint rivet]

i am also hourly clicking important things, but keep in mind I can't hourly click everything, bcs of my prints

[mint rivet]

i got all for kill well out of nblb range, this is better to do instead, right?

[white lintel]

call me ash/ tundra logs
Heart Diggy/ jungle logs
cookin roadkill/ potty logs
stable jenius/ bleach logs

[mint rivet]

call me ash and roakill alr over 1k, hearty diggy I got no sample for...and stable genius, no sample for

[white lintel]

call me ash is linear

[mint rivet]

whatbubble uses butterflies besides this

[white lintel]

get cookin to 1330 or 95% threshhold

[mint rivet]

also no sample for cookin

[white lintel]

It might be time for a resample

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Butterfly

[mint rivet]

nah alr resampled recently

and am not resampling just for 2 different bubble clicks

[white lintel]

well you could do a lot more thatn what I touched on

[mint rivet]

yeah, next resample

[white lintel]

it was only 6 days ago, you wouldnt lose out on much multi, only would resample a small number of toons

[mint rivet]

all am trying to do is getting this in atom range

[mint rivet]

also resampling is boring

[white lintel]

you could resample 2 characters and future you will thank you for it

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW_lVDeIMZjIc5u5yy8Np1z7ixmNV-Hy49aCWYGv210/edit?gid=0#gid=0

also heres this for future use

[ruby loom]

will cards with base accuracy or secondary be better

[mint rivet]

ty

[mint rivet]

nah I won't, I can do thosebubble clicks next time anyways

[white lintel]

huh

[ruby loom]

for raising acc

[white lintel]

as in acc% or secondary stat you mean?

[ruby loom]

uhhhhhh

yes?

oh yeah % acc is a thing

[white lintel]

wood shroom and sand castle cards for % accuracy

[mint rivet]

I love this, got me so many lvls

[zenith hare]

bigger sample then mine!

[mint rivet]

how big is your multi artifact?

[zenith hare]

forgor

bige

[white lintel]

its not a before and after picture, I have both of those sample on 2 different characters

[dense pine]

is all for kill really that good? its one of the few bubbles ive mega neglected

[mint rivet]

yummy

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/tynan-hamfreeze-sad-shaking-head-crying-gif-24481033

[zenith hare]

thats my main sb

[dense pine]

im still confuzzled

[zenith hare]

its alright, but doesnt scale well

[open spear]

Is there a pet battle help sheet?

[zenith hare]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[white lintel]

if you have an extra print slot, get a print to get some lvls but dont focus it really

[zenith hare]

in the pet section

[dense pine]

gotcha

[white lintel]

you could probably just get it atomable and then ignore it

[dense pine]

i cant get a max veiny log print anyway

[dense pine]

currently atoming larry

[thorny zinc]

just finished all of my w1-w5 zows

[dense pine]

im just waiting on my schows

[open spear]

Whats ”max” print

[white lintel]

dont atom it too too much since youll be able to candy click it eventually, maybe stop at like 900 or something

[dense pine]

enough to make a max stack in an hr

actually i probably can do that because of 6x

[open spear]

I just realized i had mittens of gods recipe just sitting in my vmans inventory

[dense pine]

yea mines nowhere near that lvl yet lol

lemme check

[open spear]

I dont even have pentastud slapped tho

[white lintel]

yea but it will be eventually

[dense pine]

only lvl 206..oh boy.

[open spear]

Bro i have like 6k alchemy bubbles

Lvl

[white lintel]

[open spear]

I still dont get alchemy

Or how my prints are so bad
Yet im acc lvl 5k

[white lintel]

what world are you in?

[open spear]

I dont even have T damage

[dense pine]

your prints are so bad because you dont get alchemy

[open spear]

6
I just talked about mittens of god

[thorny zinc]

i should resample too

[white lintel]

whats your struggle with alchemy?

[open spear]

Ik

[open spear]

Everything 😄

[dense pine]

then wdym you dont get how

[white lintel]

I play idleon you think I can read?

[open spear]

Valid point

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[white lintel]

liquid gen or prints

[open spear]

Lemme make my acc public

[open spear]

Print
But i dont think my liquid gen is good either

[thorny zinc]

i swear to god if you have the alchemy worse than mine

[open spear]

I do

[cinder bridge]

Any tips for van speedrun?

[thorny zinc]

there is no way

[open spear]

[white lintel]

be fast

[cinder bridge]

No way

[thorny zinc]

dont forget to run fast in speedruns

[dense pine]

new speedrun tech

[cinder bridge]

I ain't actually getting an answer am i

[open spear]

How do i put the it acc on pub:D

[mint rivet]

new stamp!!

[thorny zinc]

data and public profile

[dense pine]

more mutlikill, use multikill cards, speed pots

[mossy spear]

what are some good ways to increase fire speed on kitchen, 121 days for my latest spice recipe is NOT it bro..

[mint rivet]

do alchemy

[open spear]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Thomas_Cooper

[dense pine]

diamond chef in alchemy

[compact pagoda]

upgrade kicten stats

[cinder bridge]

Ok ig time for my first speedrun

[open spear]

[compact pagoda]

watch a guide first

[white lintel]

your question doesnt really have an answer other than just more base stats, if you want some speedrun techs thats pretty acc specific so not much we can go off of from a general how to do this better type question

[thorny zinc]

it doenst work for me can you show me your total bubble levels

[white lintel]

6k he said earlier

[thorny zinc]

oh my bad

[mint rivet]

useless?

[white lintel]

not working for me either

[dense pine]

speaking of 6k holy fuck Arctis what is that hr count 😭

[white lintel]

HEY SHHHHHH

[thorny zinc]

only 6k?

the cave gameplay wasnt on steam true

[dense pine]

i thought i was bad.

then again my hrs in games are actually playing them

[white lintel]

90% of mine is just active afk

[dense pine]

yea i figured lol

[open spear]

Dmg is dmg

Is 5.5k stamp lvl bad 💀

[white lintel]

I basically cooked my laptop over the summer by active farming the whole time

[mint rivet]

it did not flinch my dmg

what is the rarest treasure

[open spear]

Fuck…

[white lintel]

the last one?

[royal robin]

How do i absolutely speed up my refinery cycles, got saltlocked from not refining enough redoxs and it's been like 2 weeks since i set auto refine to 0% and turned off every salt except redox

[open spear]

Should i make an new acc:D

[white lintel]

what world are you in?

[mint rivet]

yea ur right

[royal robin]

pre-w5

[cinder bridge]

Where should I spend my points now?

[quiet crane]

is that normal? xd

[white lintel]

the only thing I can think of for you is the lab node and the red salt vial (which isnt that great of an option for you rn) and the salt lick thing

[open spear]

But
Red hat

[white lintel]

try to get your stamps up to 8k

[thorny zinc]

get another one

[royal robin]

which lab node specifically, idk since i didn't focus on the lab

[thorny zinc]

you just need to spend all your money on balls

[white lintel]

oh no

[rustic oriole]

is there a strategy guide for getting to wave 31 on wakawaka

[dense pine]

[rustic oriole]

need the acc one and lost to the boss last time

[open spear]

I much rather buy a mazda miata

[dense pine]

spam boulders

[thorny zinc]

real

[rustic oriole]

lost last time

guess i need more tower upgrades

[dense pine]

lvl up your boulders

[white lintel]

gilded cyclical tubing is a 3x speed increase for refinery

you need to do lab, its incredibly important

[thorny zinc]

finally got a caustic scarf on db too

[open spear]

Void tower

[dense pine]

took your time

[odd obsidian]

nows the time to get his crit chance up

[thorny zinc]

the rng hates me

[dense pine]

no, its just your DR

[royal robin]

I've only reached the second node of the lab

Might try to put some of my characters into the lab later thx

[white lintel]

you thought 75 hours was bad?

[dense pine]

not idleon specfically

also i have another 600 on my alt acc

[thorny zinc]

its 9 not enough

[dense pine]

its not

[white lintel]

ah ok

[open spear]

I got 9 too

Maybe i should stop pushing worlds and fix this damn account

[royal robin]

My old account got like a year

[mint rivet]

is this BASE luck?

[dense pine]

[white lintel]

dam

[royal robin]

I'm NOT gonna go back there, too messy

[open spear]

I got 10k hours on minecraft (in Ps4)

[dense pine]

no, push to w7

[dense pine]

alien activity

[thorny zinc]

and i thought i was bad

[white lintel]

when you hit w6 its time to start fixing your stuff

[mint rivet]

i've been fixing my stuff ever since I pushed w6 a bit

[dense pine]

bro dropped 700hrs and thought he did something, you just barely finished the tutorial

[open spear]

Im in skydoggies bro

[dense pine]

and youre not even in the trillions for damage?

[white lintel]

you look like you should be able to push to sam guards soon

[open spear]

Ye

[dense pine]

...jfc

[white lintel]

wtf, with 5k stamps?

[dense pine]

tbf i was at skydoggies with 4.5k

[open spear]

And 6k alchemy damage

’bubble lvl

[mint rivet]

I am capable of doing so, But I NEED THAT 24k justice

[hard thistle]

I had like 3650 hours in battlefield 2

[white lintel]

ahh fair

[mint rivet]

speaking of jjustice, 2.4x multi, run time

[brave cove]

arctis i had an idea, are you down to do a re-review of my account like in a month to see if i've fixed the stuff you've told me to

[white lintel]

how long did you push for, like 2 weeks per map or something?

yea sure, just lmk when you think youre ready

[hard thistle]

It was a mod , I don't know how much I had on the base game

[open spear]

Didint play for a year

[white lintel]

HAS W6 BEEN OUT FOR A YEAR??

[dense pine]

finishing royal eggs today

[mint rivet]

no

[white lintel]

YES

[mint rivet]

does anyone know from what case onwards chests with either monument afk OR justice bonuses multi can appear?

[white lintel]

do ya damn stamps and alchemy

[open spear]

Now where should i start 🤔

[dense pine]

it can wait.

im getting like 2m kp/h at eggs its good enough

[open spear]

Where can i see this from it?

[dense pine]

IT

[open spear]

Ye where there

[dense pine]

account

[open spear]

[white lintel]

whats the portal requirement?

[dense pine]

100m

[mint rivet]

ty, and do you know IF the bonuses become more common the further u get? or always same chance?

[dense pine]

already halfway done

[white lintel]

damn

[dense pine]

not sure about that sry

[dense pine]

i am in fact quite patient

tbf my damage is just hard carrying me

speaking of

my damage got lowered by 200T overnight sigh

howd that happen

[white lintel]

god forbid an idleon player use the idleon wiki

[mint rivet]

its confusing sometimes

[dense pine]

i...just entered lab and gained like 100T damage, i didnt even upload or anything

[white lintel]

Ive noticed damage fluctuations and have just stopped questioning them, ik itll go back up eventually

[white lintel]

check food?

[dense pine]

yea it happened to my DB earlier today, was 150T and i teleported and suddenly it was 110T

[mint rivet]

L run

[royal robin]

I just got deja vu from this

[open spear]

What do i have to upg for T of dmg

[dense pine]

the same as always

[urban vapor]

Is there eventually a solution for the lab stuff? I want the buffs but there are other things I want and will want the characters to do

[dense pine]

there is

[white lintel]

ME

[royal robin]

W5 arctis god

[dense pine]

it is in fact him, yes

[royal robin]

Oh hey I'm a journeyman now

[white lintel]

...your damage

[dense pine]

slightly annoying. i finally had 1q damage :(

[open spear]

Ye but how

[royal robin]

Working my way getting that specific god

[dense pine]

oh wait

[white lintel]

if youve done things right, easiest way is just base stat

crystal steak and power bubbles give dmg per mainstat so

[dense pine]

think i figured it out

[royal robin]

i was stupidly using 1% and not 50%

[dense pine]

yea back to 1.2q

[white lintel]

cards?

[dense pine]

nah

[mint rivet]

I need to do some w6 active farming for coins and hopefully triad stamp

[white lintel]

what was it

[dense pine]

it was the vman tallent

it bugged out tho

it was giving me the bonus before despite not lvling it

[white lintel]

I accidentally left vman on combat preset for like a week or so, I was wondering why my cooking wasnt doing anything

[dense pine]

since i had it on my other preset ig

[white lintel]

weird

[royal robin]

Working my way downtown getting voidwalker-

Still on the first quest

[dense pine]

shouldnt you have blood marrow lvld on both preset anyway?

[white lintel]

MK doesnt affect coins does it

[shell edge]

Hello, can I ask about pachinko stuff here?

[dense pine]

star tallent

[white lintel]

why would I?

[dense pine]

cause cooking.

[white lintel]

so basically no

[dense pine]

pretty much

[white lintel]

ok good

[open spear]

Can i get this same but understandable?

[dense pine]

2.6m kp/h at eggs, 4hrs left for the portal

[dense pine]

sailing

[shell edge]

Knowing how more gold balls is always a great thing, since it speeds up the progress.. are there others that are a must-buy?

[white lintel]

shit like this is good for dmg so get more main stat

[dense pine]

more balls.

[shell edge]

Okay I will drown in balls

[white lintel]

but I almost never use that preset except for speedruns

[dense pine]

ah fair enough then

lol

[open spear]

My prints still fucked up

[white lintel]

do you at least have 90% sample rate?

[royal robin]

Is chizoar armor better than lustre armor

[white lintel]

lustre and diabolical armor are shiet

[mint rivet]

wait are you the person wit 5.5k stamp lvls?

[royal robin]

Noted

[dense pine]

6.8k now actually

[white lintel]

theres 2 of them

[open spear]

Imma go check

[dense pine]

but yes you could have refered to me as that yesterday

[mint rivet]

bro and I am at ceramics with 11k stamps

i don't understand yall pusing with such low kph

[raw inlet]

Yall is dis good

k

[dense pine]

cause its not really a low kph, i dont mind waiting for a few kills lol

[open spear]

Varies like hell
55-98

[mint rivet]

do smth like this

[raw inlet]

Already am

[mint rivet]

i find it low

[white lintel]

do you not have royal sampler on everyone????

[dense pine]

how are you getting 98%

[mint rivet]

save up balls until u buy gold balls

[royal robin]

Never used royal sampler

I'm lazy

[open spear]

Nah

[mint rivet]

game changer

[open spear]

That is probably why 💀

[dense pine]

lmfao wait i gotta fix my printer % as well wtf

[mint rivet]

holy these people

[white lintel]

holy moly

[raw inlet]

I'm only at 60 bruh

[dense pine]

everyone is 90% except like 2 characters ive comepletelly ignored who are only 70

[white lintel]

at least you have your life somewhat together

[open spear]

My royal sampler is lvl 17

[dense pine]

i really dont.

[white lintel]

fucking equip it

[white lintel]

better than these other fools

[dense pine]

tbf those 2 are my 10th character and my BM

[mint rivet]

I am thinking of taking off royal sampler

[open spear]

Ye that fixed it

[dense pine]

good point

[mint rivet]

next time I resample

[open spear]

Everyone got 90

[white lintel]

and not having 90% on the last few toons doesnt matter if you dont sample them in the first place

[dense pine]

yea theyre just kinda refinery filler

[white lintel]

I hate daylight savings time

[dense pine]

getting like thermomisters and whatever

[mint rivet]

ah I don't think I can actually

[royal robin]

Maybe that's why it feels like my samples' always the same

[white lintel]

I can, but to take it off requires a reprint, which will not be happening

[raw inlet]

Get a lvl 1 beginner to sample sprout spirits

[mint rivet]

stopid charm

if I lvl sample it bubble, I believe all chars get 90% sample rate without royal sampler

first lvl 500!

and NEW stamp, for slab and piggy

so lucky

[open spear]

Everyone got 90
Whats the next step of the operation

[mint rivet]

work on getting every1 to 90 without royal sampler

[open spear]

Im at skydoggies and
I have M damage

Thats the problem

[mint rivet]

are you joking rn or nah

[white lintel]

maybe stop being at skydoggies and do something productive with your account

[open spear]

Dead serious bruv

[mint rivet]

do alchemy

so I got this many statues in 5min, maybe just maybe I can onyx

would take 33hours of active..not much time on my hands to do that

[open spear]

Whats productive

[open spear]

Just active overnight

[oak pasture]

what does the trapping minigame do? the one where you have to drag the crickets?

[white lintel]

Probably lab/div for you

[mint rivet]

no

[open spear]

I alr got lab all the way done

[mint rivet]

what about alchemy

[open spear]

On divs im only missing the last 1

[mint rivet]

210 lvl on all chars??

[open spear]

Enought connection to the end

But like 150lvl

[white lintel]

Do it

[mint rivet]

that does NOT mean lab is all the way done

[open spear]

Good enough

[white lintel]

I doubt he needs to do 2100 lab rn

[slim karma]

hi guys is it normal for early DK to be much slower than ES? noticing my active ES was making gains much faster than my active DK now

[mint rivet]

better than mine, my chars are lower since I didn't do lab in like a year

[white lintel]

Your DK might not be set up right

[open spear]

I did lab all year when i quit

[mint rivet]

best decision of afk on

[white lintel]

Work on your skills

[open spear]

It was an accident my phone broke and the new shitty one was too bad to play idleon on

[white lintel]

I hate playing idleon on mobile

[mint rivet]

cost scaling, wow

[open spear]

My broke as cant afford nun else

[dense pine]

yea only really useful to check in on stuff like farming and gaming

[teal garnet]

who can help meeeeeeeeee

[dense pine]

nobody if we dont know what to help with

[oak pasture]

how do i use this ?

[dense pine]

just equip it.

and when placing traps youll see arrow keys

[oak pasture]

oh ok

[teal garnet]

ok is my dmg good

for w4 rushing

[dense pine]

overkill

[teal garnet]

ima in octodar

[dense pine]

although class choice isnt perfect

[mint rivet]

its good, before vault people used to have 1m average at THE END, before troll

[teal garnet]

need help to get to troll defence too little

[dense pine]

but thats far more than enough

[mint rivet]

also do ur alchemy

[teal garnet]

i got

[mint rivet]

it involves upgrading bubbles too

[mint rivet]

its bad

[teal garnet]

nooooo

[graceful zephyr]

hello, what should i go for in breeding early on? im at mimic and piggo rn

[mint rivet]

do you have sheepie pet?

[teal garnet]

yes

[mint rivet]

unlocking you mean?

[dense pine]

1 bubble that cant be upgraded.

[graceful zephyr]

yes

[teal garnet]

but i use u mean molto logs

[mint rivet]

good

[mint rivet]

keep unlocking w2 pets until u reach the snail, monolithic trait

[teal garnet]

ok

[dense pine]

w1 for miasma as well

[mint rivet]

its DONE!

[graceful zephyr]

is the snail one of the question marks?

[teal garnet]

wow

[dense pine]

snelbie

[graceful zephyr]

ah okay

[mint rivet]

idk, it has a purple shell, if u can't see it, its question mark

[compact pagoda]

what after than 💀

[graceful zephyr]

no i know what you mean now ty

[mint rivet]

then unlock alchemic, flashy

[mint rivet]

np

[teal garnet]

are pets bonuses passive

[compact pagoda]

which ones are those

mr bean

[mint rivet]

bloque, bunny

[teal garnet]

🙂

[thick nimbus]

quick question: once a star sign is infinite, does aligning to it give its bonus twice? I assume not but just wanted to double check

[teal garnet]

i have blunder hero

[white lintel]

My solo begginer is almost to w3

[compact pagoda]

w2 or w3 pets

[teal garnet]

lol

[mint rivet]

w3

[compact pagoda]

big tree man

thx

[white lintel]

Only if you have the lab chip

[mint rivet]

using starsign doubler, aligning to it gives double its bonus

[obtuse python]

Where r twisty leaf

[thick nimbus]

okay, ty for the info!

[mint rivet]

w2 chopping tree, w2 crystals

[teal garnet]

w2 tropic tree

[mint rivet]

oh noo, I don't have those lawgs

[compact pagoda]

that everscent ?

[echo radish]

r u the real uk?

[mint rivet]

time to grind to max this

is this a multi?

[teal garnet]

who wanna play dungeon in w2

i need flurbos

credits

[compact pagoda]

try looking in party finder

[compact pagoda]

w1 dungeon far better for farming creds and flurbos

[teal garnet]

ok

[obtuse python]

Yup

[compact pagoda]

proof ?

[sour tulip]

Yo how do I beat frigid souls wave 20

The boss keeps regening

[rustic oriole]

Wait really? So there’s no point to do w2 w3 dungeons

[white lintel]

There’s a point

[echo radish]

what's the best food

[white lintel]

But the farming is done on w1 dungeon

[rustic oriole]

Makes sense. When do you actually upgrade the balls vs flat stats

[white lintel]

Balls?

[rustic oriole]

The balls that give items for buffs

[white lintel]

I think I’ve always upgraded them

[rustic oriole]

I know you can upgrade each of the items. So far I’ve only done boss damage and flat damage

Oh and block

[white lintel]

Do happy hour whenever it’s up and get carried to T4 frog you’ll get all the credits and flurbos you’ll need over time

[rustic oriole]

Weve been doing it as a 3 man group. Tried it with randoms once and lost to t3 frog same as my group

[white lintel]

Ask someone here who’s a good player for them to carry you through it? In game lfg isn’t that reliable

[sleek stone]

Happy hour up now?

[white lintel]

No idea

But it’s like 5am so I’m not available to help

[thorny zinc]

how can i increase my crit chance? except for the cheap shot bubble?

[oak walrus]

Statue

[thorny zinc]

happy hour in 3 hours

[thorny zinc]

damn

[oak walrus]

Talents aswell I think

[mint rivet]

alchemy

[thorny zinc]

its not only one crit chance bubble?

[white lintel]

Overaccurate crit

[white lintel]

Booty butt bubble

[mint rivet]

bro what

[white lintel]

It’s ass

[thorny zinc]

yeah thats why i asked

[oak walrus]

Overaccurate Crit and Mega crit

[mint rivet]

I had it at lvl 4 , BUT LAVA DECIDED TO CHANGE NBLB from upgrading bubbles at lvl 5 or more, to lvl 2 or more

[white lintel]

Ha

[mint rivet]

and If I also guess, he still did not change lab node

so it still says lvl 5 in game, on that node, right?

OMG first coin of this type, what is it called?

[white lintel]

Marbiglass j think

[obtuse python]

How th damageee

[thorny zinc]

void armor is kinda waste

[white lintel]

Mainly will be Overaccurate crit

[white lintel]

How?

[thorny zinc]

idk i was told that its kinda not worth it to go for

[mint rivet]

do alchemy

[mint rivet]

also fix that inventory dude

[thorny zinc]

i rather use dementia until i can craft troll

[obtuse python]

Yeah in w4 mabye

[obtuse python]

Never

[thorny zinc]

how is your damage so low with phoenix wings tho

how is your alchemy?

[mint rivet]

i think he does not have w5

[thorny zinc]

damn true

he should push to w5 ngl

[oak walrus]

He can rush to w6 with that dmg

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[winter heart]

yo guys the rift mobs dont count to deathnote right?

[thorny zinc]

troll armor will be fun to grind

[junior bane]

Oooo looks fun

[mint rivet]

be grateful, u got pocket divinity

[oak walrus]

Ehhh mostly the salt is the problem

[white lintel]

I don’t think void is that expensive, and with how long it takes to get troll it’s nice to have

[thorny zinc]

i guess you are right

i should go for chiz helmet ngl

[mint rivet]

did you know amarok w6 stoned is better than dementia w6 stoned

[rustic oriole]

Shouldn’t you pretty much always have a character pushing worlds

[mint rivet]

for w6, that wouldn't be the case for more efficient people

[thorny zinc]

is it really that big diff?

[mint rivet]

no

[thorny zinc]

oh okay

[junior bane]

What would u use for helmet

[umbral ravine]

So I'm getting a bunch of infinite star signs, just got another shiny and got it to +6, haven't gotten any new infinites added though? i've got everything in hydron unlocked but it stopped at the multikill one on the right. anyone know why?

[thorny zinc]

i think chiz helmet is prob the best in this state of the game

until you go for troll

[junior bane]

Okey ty

[mint rivet]

dementia

[junior bane]

The defence seems kinda useless tho

[white lintel]

You don’t use armor for def really

[junior bane]

Ye so why use a piece of armour for it

[white lintel]

Stat stick

[junior bane]

Surely i just get chiz seems cheap enough

[thorny zinc]

i want it too but i dont have salts

[junior bane]

Neither

[junior bane]

Oh one more thing
Somewhere i remember reading that some of the salts r on diffrent refinery cycle times that true?

[thorny zinc]

yeah the second page

has different cycle time than the first

[white lintel]

2 cycle speeds, one short one longer.

[junior bane]

Hmmm so whats the point in those refinery solvers

[white lintel]

They take those into account

[junior bane]

Surely its just if power is bigger ur goos else don't rank up

[mint rivet]

about 4x slower, also the reason you never autorefine green salts

[white lintel]

Huh?

[junior bane]

There isnt a difference in speed within combustion tab right

[junior bane]

And thats exactly 4x slower

So i can just do the maths in my head

[mint rivet]

[junior bane]

Whats the point in those solvers that arent even right half the time then 😭

[mint rivet]

what solvers

[white lintel]

I assume the picture

But the new one is much better anyways

Just use this

[thorny zinc]

i love waiting 5 years for salts

[mint rivet]

1k!

[thorny zinc]

damn

[balmy gulch]

IS there a time limit for tower defence?

[mint rivet]

9999seconds perwave

so about 2hours and 40min

[wheat cove]

is there a max level on food?

[sly nova]

Eh 😔😭

[thorny zinc]

farming best skill

[wheat cove]

i mean...... W4 food.....

[sly nova]

110

[sly nova]

Your max probably 50

[wheat cove]

110 levels?!

[sly nova]

Meal?

[wheat cove]

yeah.

[sly nova]

Yep

[thorny zinc]

yeah 110

[sly nova]

For now qq0

[thorny zinc]

[sly nova]

Goddamn it

110*

[wheat cove]

what plate will it be when its maxed???!??! god dam!!!

[sly nova]

?

Purp with a star?

[oak walrus]

Uhh check wiki

[mint rivet]

before

[wheat cove]

oh k

[sly nova]

Owhhh shet i need that

[wheat cove]

looks OP

[sly nova]

Ohhh diamond

[thorny zinc]

turtles look chill

[dense pine]

tuttel

[zenith hare]

update when

[thorny zinc]

never

[sly nova]

Squirtle

[thorny zinc]

we already told you yesterday bro

[dense pine]

yesterday

[sly nova]

Source: trust me bro

[dense pine]

lava just didnt hit yall up with the secret patch

[thorny zinc]

bro needs that hole update

[wheat cove]

i get more bars from the W4 colleseum than i get from 48 hours of mining 0__0\

[sly nova]

Tf do i hard focus on? damnnn farmin is tedious

[mint rivet]

and after, 200% + finally

[thorny zinc]

wdym you just need to focus on ALL at the same time

[sly nova]

[thorny zinc]

all vials maxed when

[sly nova]

Nahh imma focus on land rank exp%

[thorny zinc]

i dont even know what that is and i have farming unlocked

[mint rivet]

whenever u max alchemy

[thorny zinc]

its over for both of us then

[sly nova]

😔

[balmy gulch]

is it worth waiting 1 and a half hour for 1 wave in tower defence

[mint rivet]

if its a boss wave, sure

[oak walrus]

Wdym 1 wave it should be in increments of 10

[junior bane]

what does the salt merit in w3 do

[thorny zinc]

read

[balmy gulch]

basicially it good

[white lintel]

Reduces salt cost from previous section so like orange salts cost less red to make

[balmy gulch]

buy whenever u unlock a new upgrade

[mint rivet]

BEGINNER??

first time seeing this

I did not even know it can happen

[thorny zinc]

it should work with vman right?

[junior bane]

k makes sense ty

[oak walrus]

Only 3rd option iirc

[hollow osprey]

it feels so awful to be time gated on alchemy

[mint rivet]

its timeee

[toxic timber]

In my death bringer quest when i reached 80 something kills it stoped counting the second phase bosses as well as the rift enemies why though?

[oak walrus]

Did u use the player menu screen

If so u reset the quest and need to do it all over again

[toxic timber]

No it stoped counting kills it didn't reset the quest

[mint rivet]

I am quite confused regarding bravery, so it says from a wave onwards I can get those type of chests

[ebon rampart]

It never counted the second wave phase bosses

[oak walrus]

Try crystals in w2 crystal island

[toxic timber]

@oak walrus ok thanks

[mint rivet]

does it only mean the bored gamer waves???

since wave 1 DOES Not have 271k hp

oops accidentaly replied

[oak walrus]

Thats wave 26.....

[dense pine]

try crystals and colo chests

[oak walrus]

Smh reading hard

[mint rivet]

oh ur rightt

[mint rivet]

I did read, it was just confusing

[true hamlet]

Just weird formatting

[mint rivet]

decent

with this officially reached 100x

[steel nymph]

took me 4 years to max this out

[thorny zinc]

are refinery cycles worth?

[oak walrus]

Ehhhhh no I would say

[thorny zinc]

so what should i buy then candies?

[oak walrus]

Its just 1 cycle and later on that cycle can be like 30 seconds or less

I mean what exactly do u actualy need

[sly nova]

Book checkout worth

[thorny zinc]

i could buy checkouts cuz i dont have that achievement with 1k yet

[sly nova]

[dense pine]

balls.

nah, books are prob best value besides like candy ig

[thorny zinc]

true i will go for books then

[cold wraith]

eventually arcade balls 😋

[thorny zinc]

thx

[dense pine]

ill prob buy out balls tho since i got 3rd killroy

[sly nova]

How to reach 30 dr?

27%+ 😔

[dense pine]

or maybe some actual buffs like arti chance

[cold wraith]

ill buy them once i have more than + 12 seconds in killroy

[mild quarry]

Is the w3 achievement "Too cute to live" bugged, I killed all the floofs on the map in under 20 seconds and even got the textbox from Lava.. but the achievement didn't pop

[oak walrus]

Need to be faster like right after entering map

[balmy gulch]

I was told book check out is the best but I think egg is nice to have

[balmy gulch]

there is 2 achevment for floofs, try gaain

[balmy gulch]

It not bugged, I achieved it tday

[thorny zinc]

I only have 100 of 1000 checkouts so prob books are best for me rn

[open spear]

Couldnt be me

[wild urchin]

I reached the chocolate monsters in w4 i can 100% hit them i got right talents level 130 BB but only 2.75K kills per hour and it wants 120K for the portal what do i do

[oak walrus]

Suffer

[wild urchin]

So theres nothing else i can do??

[open spear]

Candy

[wild urchin]

I think there was a lab thingy where it 2xed your afk kill gains to open portals faster

[open spear]

Back when i was a little white stickman
I candied the whole w3

[zenith hare]

get the lab node

[oak walrus]

Do u have the lab 2x kills active?

[wild urchin]

Ye i need that

[oak walrus]

Whats ur dmg

[zenith hare]

people used to suffer with 2k kph WITH the 2x node

[oak walrus]

Do u have vault upgraded

[zenith hare]

2.7k is fine when you dont.

[velvet anchor]

Shut up 🙏

[wild urchin]

I have like 1.5M base i think

[zenith hare]

no

[zenith hare]

500k more then needed

[wild urchin]

Yes i maxed the first vault upgrade

Yes im working on clickers

[wild urchin]

I built my chars a lot lowkey

[zenith hare]

no its more recently the damage is really eaasy to get

[wild urchin]

"Chars" is crazy work i only built BB to the max

[shadow grotto]

What should I make my 8th character I have 2 archer, 2 warrior, 2 mage, 1 journey

[zenith hare]

some people have 4-5m by the time they get to troll

[wild urchin]

HOW

[zenith hare]

dk

[velvet anchor]

My w6 pushing is rough

[wild urchin]

I can get like 20M max bro

[zenith hare]

by not ignoring shite

[zenith hare]

i mean sheet damage, not hit damage

[wild urchin]

Oh damn

[wild urchin]

Anything you want honestly but another squire would be goated for construction

[shadow grotto]

I hate cogs

[zenith hare]

dk isnt for cogs

dk is so you level br faster, which means you get better cogs faster

and its something that scales far into end game

[shadow grotto]

But I just don’t like cogs

[zenith hare]

construction is a needed thing

to progress

[wild urchin]

Why the massive troll so weak🙏

[zenith hare]

you get too much shite to ignore it

[rustic oriole]

My ES currently does 4mil just passed the subclass guy

[wild urchin]

Literally 16.5K accuracy is needed to 100% hit the mob before the massive troll thats such a scam

[zenith hare]

halfway nice

[shadow grotto]

I just made a new character that has nothing and it does 120k damage😆

[rustic oriole]

I just made my 7th bro is already on tvs naked with gloves

True chad

[wild urchin]

Early w4 and already character 8 i have 7 chars and not even close to the next one💔

[zenith hare]

for now

[rustic oriole]

I just made my 7th and already about to get 8. You fly through levels

[wild urchin]

Hahaha nice to say when im farming for mman

[compact pagoda]

do thats when w5

[zenith hare]

mman no

[rustic oriole]

Shouldn’t you do that on your 8th character?

[zenith hare]

vman yes

[zenith hare]

mman should be gotten as 7th or 8th

[wheat cove]

should i get a crystal printer.... or something else.

[wild urchin]

I cant do all at

[zenith hare]

9th is a tad late, 10th is very late

[zenith hare]

crystal printer

[compact pagoda]

mine v man was at 6th 😭

[wheat cove]

k.

[rustic oriole]

What exactly do you do to farm on your Vman

Mman*

[wild urchin]

How much time did you save typing "k"

[zenith hare]

its just skilling

[wild urchin]

Im wondering

[compact pagoda]

speedruns and vial farming

[wheat cove]

0.3 seconds, my time is precious

[wild urchin]

Wow nice 0.3 seconds saved

[zenith hare]

this talent matters a lot

[compact pagoda]

just level up ur m man for now

[rustic oriole]

Does he get extra skilling XP

[zenith hare]

nope

[wild urchin]

This guys set to become a trillionaire

[rustic oriole]

RIP

[compact pagoda]

who

[zenith hare]

but he does buff everyone elses prints by like 4x for being higher level then them

[wild urchin]

@wheat cove

[zenith hare]

act wait ig he does

[wild urchin]

He saved 0.3 seconds typing k hes a genius

[wheat cove]

its also so that i save time having to reach a tiny bit for the O key, so it saves effort as well XDDDDD

[rustic oriole]

Why is it level 500

[wild urchin]

Library or smth idk

[zenith hare]

should prolly book that

[thorny zinc]

bean is cooking so hard

[rustic oriole]

I was waiting to use my books for something. Something about 20books doing something

[shadow grotto]

I have 8 characters but I might be mid w4 because I am prioritizing elite classes and getting dementia as well as preparing to get void

[wild urchin]

Bean is the master at being unemployed

[compact pagoda]

when u starting

[wild urchin]

Blud started doin all at at w4

[thorny zinc]

when im not timegated by everything

[wild urchin]

Im gonna push to w6 with amarok armor trust me gng

[compact pagoda]

why timegated

[thorny zinc]

salts and liquids

[compact pagoda]

10th char classic

[wild urchin]

Amarok armor is goated icl

[wheat cove]

also i just unlocked the rift...

[shadow grotto]

Just get void tools and then grind for dementia gear atleast with dk or bb

[rustic oriole]

I was getting laugh at for still using amarok on w4

[wild urchin]

10th char had access to w6 already

[rustic oriole]

Dementia isn’t even that much better bro

[compact pagoda]

no

[turbid stump]

Stay hydrated