midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[karmic frost]

Does cooking afk have diminishing returns for ladles?

[quiet crane]

im not sure, i've never tried 2 min claims tho

i usually claim like every 2-3 days cuz im kinda lazy

[karmic frost]

I'm wondering cus I'm doing 2 min dna splicing on all my chars, but figured if it's the same for ladles i might as well have my barb at cook instead. do both at same time

[craggy sphinx]

Does anyone know if the 12mil mush kills for voidwalker don't count for death note?

[mint rivet]

ofc not

[white lintel]

dont do 2min claims anymore, not worth

[white lintel]

does not, it gets reset to 2 mil after speed runs

[karmic frost]

not worth for just smelting or dna splicing as well?

[mint rivet]

@white lintel did you unlock some w9 bubbles yet?

[craggy sphinx]

Oh okay, I saw it had 5mil now, was confused

[quiet crane]

i know bro

[white lintel]

why would I push w9 bubbles?

[quiet crane]

my smeltery runs empty always :< doesnt refill in time

[mint rivet]

since cool

[white lintel]

not for smelting, and most efficient is 4 min claims for splicing iirc, but youre better off just using 1 hour candies

[fiery falcon]

When should I start eqoinox

[quiet crane]

whenever u can 👍

[white lintel]

whats your GT?

[white lintel]

im pushing sigils

[wild urchin]

I love cogs in my building holes bro

[tight bronze]

once you can unlock the next upgrade

i got to 20 greenstacks first

[fiery falcon]

Next upgrade?

[white lintel]

mid w5

[mint rivet]

about 3.5k

[wild urchin]

Also what does the trapping drone do does it have like a cooldown of any sort?

[fiery falcon]

I’m there I think

[white lintel]

mid way through pushing w5?

[hallow hearth]

how to get t3 liquid in alch?

[tight bronze]

how many greenstacks do you have

[fiery falcon]

None

[mint rivet]

reach a certain lvl in alchemy

[white lintel]

get higher alch lvl to unlock the liquid cauldron

[mint rivet]

iirc it was lvl 30

[wild urchin]

So i can place and claim traps while not being near it??

[grand flare]

Mr pro

[hallow hearth]

oh, there's a distilled water on pic, I thot I should buy it xdd

[grand flare]

Drone lets you pick up traps remotely without having to go to where you placed them

[tight bronze]

nvm once you get lvl 100 on all characters you should be able to start

[mint rivet]

those are necessary for certain recipes

[wild urchin]

So i still have to go and place them manually?

[fiery falcon]

Ok should I start unlocking the maps for it

[wild urchin]

Ts pmo

[grand flare]

No

[tight bronze]

yeah, it shouldn't take too long

[grand flare]

You can place them through the drone aswell

[tight bronze]

and you only need to on one character

[fiery falcon]

Most of my characters are except for the 8th

[stable crane]

Arctis sorry one more on trapping if you don't mind - would a good general strat be maestro = max xp, BM = max shinys, everyone else = balance qty + xp?

[hallow hearth]

I think u can do it a bit later with better multikill stat

[tight bronze]

time to grind

[wild urchin]

Lets gooo

[white lintel]

vman with transfusion for xp, BM can do max shiny or max critters

[fiery falcon]

One character is lv 99 and lv 63

[mint rivet]

how do people get millions of liquid in alchemy?

[stable crane]

and the rest of the gang just qty/xp?

[white lintel]

I dont think theyre at the millions mark yet

[tight bronze]

i would equip some xp potions, and find the best map for them

[grand flare]

Lab bonus multiplies it by alot

[fiery falcon]

Ok

[mint rivet]

oh they were long ago too

[strange flare]

cc

[tight bronze]

it takes a long time to get to the equinox map, so your going to be grinding for awhile

[mint rivet]

what lab bonus

[strange flare]

I’m at 800k on my second cauldron lol

[white lintel]

you can set everyone with one character with trap drone. set everyone with vman with transfusion for xp, set them with BM and a mixture of other things for either maxing critters or shinies

[elfin gate]

random question on the Oinkin quest-line. in world 4 , specifically quest 3. I have already unlocked the crassiont before I got the quest but it says 0/1. Is this impossible for me to complete now?

[white lintel]

damn

[mint rivet]

yeah, with that, but still how

[white lintel]

CC

[mint rivet]

800k current liquid?

[brave cove]

wait is that lab bonus finally useful for me

[mint rivet]

so they just CC 24/7 , 8 days a week?

[brave cove]

i may need to link to it now

[white lintel]

yea, but you wont need all that liquid for a long time

[vale escarp]

how do I make my bubo useable actively

[mint rivet]

I have seen some cauldron upgrade requirements cost TENS of millions

[white lintel]

lvl 200 tenteyecle is the starting point

[mint rivet]

its amazing for liquid dump bubbles

[white lintel]

oh yea thats not surprising

[vale escarp]

alr ty!

[strange flare]

For cap yeah

[mint rivet]

also some people like hourzero print over a trillion logs per hour, so they need much liquid to upgrade bubble

[brave cove]

you can technically start at 150 but you won't be seeing much of an effect

[white lintel]

uhh, you cant use 99% of printed mats for bubble lvling

that would be for candy clicking

[mint rivet]

yeah for candy clicking

[white lintel]

which is not correlated to print size

[atomic fable]

Is this enough tower levels for Boulder to no longer be the main tower used in td?

[white lintel]

in a meaningful way

[mint rivet]

I assume this is the sample itself? or just the amount gained per hour

[white lintel]

thats the sample itself

5.9T

[mint rivet]

so that means, when he was chopping the tree, he had a 6.5T logs/hr afk gain?

[white lintel]

why not upgrade cap?

[atomic fable]

Once I do more td runs, is boulder or poisonic better now based on levels

[mint rivet]

so using a 1hr candy, he would gain 6.5T logs?

i mean copper

[strange flare]

i wanna make the big number go up

[mint rivet]

and he can use that copper, as long as he doesn't leave the map to upgrade the 1st bubble in alchemy?

[white lintel]

you have to leave the map

[mint rivet]

no I did not mean that

[white lintel]

liquid costs are too much

[mint rivet]

why

[white lintel]

youll have to CC to replenish liquids

[mint rivet]

oh so it started from here

[strange flare]

i meant this

[mint rivet]

when u said u'll never need that much liquid

i bet in w7 am gonna reach current hour zero level

[mint rivet]

and what if u CC at gmush, since bubo is a tree cutter too

[strange flare]

my caps are around 14k with mercury being 10k

[white lintel]

your level and endgame level liquids are completely different

[strange flare]

that makes no sense

also bubo gmush is terrible

[mint rivet]

better than nothing

i bet u can gain like 50-100k seconds

[strange flare]

if you are endgame maybe lol

[white lintel]

that would be a waste of time

[strange flare]

i get 340k on wurms

[white lintel]

better to just CC at sams or wurms and just use another candy to get like 500B logs or wtv and use those

[mint rivet]

wtv?

[white path]

whatever?

[mint rivet]

FIRST time I have seen this

[atomic fable]

I think I might go back and finish any star signs I can, that worth it?

[strange flare]

I can only imagine how good my GT woudl be if liquidvestment existed when I did active bubo arc

[mint rivet]

huge buffs await

[strange flare]

so much wasted

man im summoning 80 as well

[atomic fable]

That actually would apply for me if I can reach it

[mint rivet]

same, tryna reach 100

[mint rivet]

gl

[strange flare]

I still haven't even completed the red sighns yet lmfao

[atomic fable]

I just need 10 more to unlock the 3rd tab

[white lintel]

git to werk

[brave cove]

wish i had shinies

[strange flare]

that takes so much effort

[mint rivet]

you should stop being lazy and do other stuff besides bubo

[atomic fable]

Is it maybe worth it to pause the lab / div grind to deal with the star signs that require afk time?

[strange flare]

i haven't done bubo in like a year

[brave cove]

i still don't know how to get shinies

[strange flare]

right now I'm suffering through DB in w3

[brave cove]

just use candies

[white lintel]

lvl 40 breeding

[strange flare]

you hit the shiny option on the pet in breeding

[atomic fable]

Oh right, time candies work there

[mint rivet]

stop DB then and do ur signs

[white lintel]

candy them

[strange flare]

no u

[brave cove]

well this explains things

[strange flare]

i have the annoying ones left

[brave cove]

[atomic fable]

My SB has 107% crit chance 😮

[soft garden]

Hello again! 🙂 Is there an idle thing in W3 like the owl in W1 and the kangaroo in W2?

[strange flare]

bruh

[white lintel]

weak sauce

[brave cove]

yo look who it is

[soft garden]

Thank you! 😊

[mint rivet]

no clicker, but another timegated feature, equinox

[strange flare]

y'know what i'm bored of writing tips and tricks ill do a few star signs

[soft garden]

Oh! I haven't heard of/seen that yet. Thank you!

[mint rivet]

np

[atomic fable]

Oh, I forgot to use talent points for mega crit 😭

[white lintel]

have you not done onyx yet?

[atomic fable]

I haven't done onyx statues yet

[white lintel]

why not

[atomic fable]

since it's tied to Crystal Farming

[mint rivet]

not 100%

[atomic fable]

I don't have chocco chip yet

[mint rivet]

u can onyx quite a few statues from killing 100 bosses daily

[atomic fable]

Oh, like power statues? (Required to unlock it)

[mint rivet]

yes, power, feasty, health, exp

and more

[white lintel]

what boss drops power?

[atomic fable]

What would be ideal for it? Normal?

[mint rivet]

amarok

[white lintel]

20k power statues?

[mint rivet]

I would do boss farming for the gems as a main reward, and statues as a side bonus

[white lintel]

and where are you getting the keys?

[mint rivet]

I assume he alr has from claiming daily

and w1 colo gives a ton for just 3 or 4 tickets

[atomic fable]

I have 75 keys

[mint rivet]

forget about it then

[white lintel]

surprised you didnt get choccy ship earlier this year

[mint rivet]

it took me 2100 bosses to onyx the statues dropped by amarok

[atomic fable]

I don't think I was in w4 when it was available

or if I was, I wasn't far enough in to get it

[white lintel]

unfortunate

[mint rivet]

i got to w4 in the same week as thechoco chip, and I still managed to get it, u just need to know what to do and its not hard

I was lucky meme bean helped me then

[strange flare]

why are people skulling my message?

[fiery falcon]

Done

[atomic fable]

Maybe I do need to do my w1 colosseums?

[white lintel]

no reason

[atomic fable]

Oh, Alright

[strange flare]

I am confused

[white lintel]

save tickets for gfood farm

[strange flare]

0.04% sov fury chance I got this right

[tight bronze]

nice

[dense pine]

i give it 2 months

[brave cove]

guild task oooooo you need to do your guild tasks oooooo

[dense pine]

no

[strange flare]

rookie numbers

[fiery falcon]

Should I do the maps now?

[strange flare]

ez

[atomic fable]

Is there a way you can tell when you mega crit?

[white lintel]

kinda

if youre over like 400% crit its always

[wild urchin]

Guys how do i get the helmet and pants in !fishchart

[strange flare]

you only need 200% lol

[white lintel]

if youre under 10T dmg itll show up green instead of purple

[soft garden]

Is there any advice on how to deal with the worship in W2 where the giant moon boss enemies go "invisible" repeatedly? 🥲 I'm struggling to get past wave 30. I have up to the frozen tower unlocked.

[white lintel]

right, I read the 400% dmg as crit mb

[tight bronze]

how many kills do you get on mustache map

[atomic fable]

Ooh, so normal crits are pink, mega crits are green?

[sleek bane]

oh so thats why its not green all the time

[strange flare]

yeah but after 10t they are always pink

[sleek bane]

its green when you do random events 👍

[atomic fable]

I do see I do like 15b sometimes

which is a lot more than max damage + normal crit

[dense pine]

people get megacrits before 10T?

[atomic fable]

or it could be my abilities, not sure

[white lintel]

idk man

[dense pine]

im at 700T and still havent gotten it

[sleek bane]

[dense pine]

is there any reason to even have it? its not like it affects multikill or anything anyway

[sleek bane]

big number = better

[dense pine]

at that points its just a big number funny moment

[atomic fable]

is it bad I'm starting to just focus on shiny pets?

for breeding

[dense pine]

if anything you might be focusing them too early

[white lintel]

pickling

[dense pine]

what

[sleek bane]

bonejoepickle

[dense pine]

oh right

im nowhere near that point yet thankfully

only at 78

[rapid comet]

My damage or accuracy is too low to progress much more of W4

[strange flare]

do I need to leave the gaming menu open while I wait for nuggets or can I just close i and forget about it

[rapid comet]

Is it worth it to invest into lab and then try and up my cooking? Or focus strictly on alchemy bubbles

[white lintel]

to generate them or when theyre like coming out of the shovel

[strange flare]

coming out of the shovel

[white lintel]

I believe you need to keep gaming open

[strange flare]

they generate passively over time

lame that's what i've been doing at least

[dense pine]

just click the shovel first

[strange flare]

i dont have much happening in gaming lol so i'm stuck waiting for it

[dense pine]

unfortunate, i could really do with a better nugget

nearing that shovel upgrade in equinox...and by nearing i mean im 1 upgrade off

[white lintel]

do your farming and youll get more speed for 5 second and instant gaming

[atomic fable]

I realise if I want all w3 star signs, I have to push through w3 with most characters

[strange flare]

true im on 2.4m cycles atm

no the main issue is I have 19 chems on my screen

[dense pine]

how does farming even speed up gaming anyway

ik theres the gaming evo but what else?

[atomic fable]

I only get 7 daily keys from w1, is it worth it to maybe not bother with the greenstack on the quest required to unlock the daily?

[sleek bane]

7 daily keys????

wo cao

[oak walrus]

Thats the speed iirc

[strange flare]

my 10th char going crazzzyyy

[atomic fable]

yeah, I only have 7 daily because if I was to finish the quest on all 10 charaters, I'd lose a potential greenstack

[dense pine]

eh it is? weird

[sleek bane]

can you not bang out the greenstack on 1 char

7 is a bit crazy

[dense pine]

its not like amarok keys are that useful lol

[oak walrus]

Dont know why lava called it that when there is the already existing gaming plant evo chance but yeah

[sleek bane]

tru ig

[atomic fable]

The 1 area I do have to focus on is the w3 daily keys, I've not done those yet, but I haven't finished the w3 push yet on all characters

[dense pine]

lemme do 10 nightmare amaroks rq actually

i havent fought him in a while

[sleek bane]

need to push w5 on all chars for star signs

[dense pine]

surely i get the wings

[atomic fable]

Same 😦

[sleek bane]

[strange flare]

man star signs are so annoying

[zenith hare]

cringe

[quasi copper]

star sings i barely know her

[dense pine]

this and 4 obols

[sleek bane]

i am so bad at blocking in spice battles

i have missed the timing 4 times in a row

[strange flare]

it's also rng i feel like

man the wurm constellation sounds terrible

[sleek bane]

pushing everyone to wurm

wait how many chars is it actually

[strange flare]

5

[white lintel]

1 1 hour candy

[sleek bane]

[dense pine]

[strange flare]

10 for me

[atomic fable]

Is it maybe worth when pushing with SB to not use time candies?

[oak walrus]

Cheap

[dense pine]

the portal is 3m

[atomic fable]

(So I can work on the talent bonus)

[strange flare]

oh reading hard

there's no separators okay

[dense pine]

1.5 more hrs and ill finally be past skydoggies

[strange flare]

must be nice

[dense pine]

somewhat, yea

1.5k effaunt keys time

[strange flare]

haven't seen portal OP for a while

[white lintel]

got to w2 after like an hour, this game is too easy

[atomic fable]

arctis, is it maybe worth it (Since I need to for star signs) to active push SB instead of candying

to allow working on the talent

[strange flare]

what classes do I even do wurm nest star sign on

[white lintel]

just candy

[strange flare]

I assume DK and DB, maybe ES?

wait you can just candy the star sign kills?

[white lintel]

if you want plunder kills set it up for an overnight thing

[strange flare]

no it's the 100 kills in 100 seconds

[wild urchin]

Does no bubble left behind upgrade every bubble for free or?

[dense pine]

free

[chrome herald]

Since when was there a slime that dropped alot of necklaces

[dense pine]

but only the first 15 of every cauldron at first

[wild urchin]

It only does level 1 bubbles tho right?

[oak walrus]

Since it was added check patchnotes ig

[white path]

1 month ago

[dense pine]

no, lowest bubble thats at least lvl 2

[chrome herald]

I've never see anything about it

[wild urchin]

Oh alr

[oak walrus]

Not lvl 5?

[dense pine]

2

[white path]

#patch-notes📝 message

[wild urchin]

I mean i dont really care about that its just a passive bonus while i try to get the skull piles

[oak walrus]

Or was the lvl 5 thing the atom upgrade I forget

[wild urchin]

I got every elite class except mman

[white path]

used to be level 5

[oak walrus]

Thats..... a subclass

[white path]

the in game description still says level 5 tho

[strange flare]

he changed it to level 2

ugh

[white path]

Link u used to be endgame right?

[strange flare]

no lol

late game at best

i hit 3m/hr im fine

[strange flare]

why do you ask?

[white path]

I thought u were endgame back when w6 wasn't a thing

[strange flare]

it was more like late game

if I had doot I may have been end game

[dense pine]

took 1k keys but got my first cape

[strange flare]

okay I did 100 wurm kills in 100 seconds on two DKs and my bubo

[dense pine]

got 16 hats as well.

[strange flare]

what is the next best class? ES?

need 2 more players to do it lol

[white path]

any class but archers and beginner should do fine

[strange flare]

so ES moment

[pulsar moth]

hey guys, just unlocked W4 and got a bunch of galactic leaves. wiki doesn't say where to use them so are they useless? should I filter them out?

[strange flare]

went from 3 to 49 points lol

[dense pine]

gstack

but yea feel free to filter them

[strange flare]

do you know which star signs I should get on page 1 and 2 to unlock 3?

[white lintel]

you should unlock all star signs

[strange flare]

I'd rather unlock the minimum so I can get the page 3 ones that are good first

[dense pine]

nah why they hating on my boy og skiller

[strange flare]

I need 10 more tho

[white path]

u found it faster than me

[strange flare]

thats like an outdated list

[oak walrus]

Is that even accurate?

[strange flare]

ill just use my brain and get the good ones ig

[oak walrus]

The path for red to green (or what I assume it is)

[white lintel]

no Idea

[prisma gazelle]

Quest dinner deliverer isnt updating. i have the levels, but the quest does not see them, am i doing something wrong?

[strange flare]

he's done it

I assume I go to the pretty icon first

[brave kite]

How many star maps there are?

blue, red and green only?

[strange flare]

so close but so far

[strange flare]

so far yes

[white path]

upgrade something for it to update

[prisma gazelle]

oki, wil try, thank you 😄

[strange flare]

I might not be able to get it, not sure if I can do any w6 ones

I actually haven't done any of the w6 ones yet so I'm sure there's some easy pickins

[dense pine]

w6 starsigns? yea some are really easy

[strange flare]

thank god

are there even enough points to get them all?

I'll have to do the W6 ones later because im out of time after this one

[dense pine]

[green cloud]

which meals would be worth to put high ribbons? I already have golden food and the related ones to skilling prowess/eff

[strange flare]

huh I just need these 2 for w3 and i've done all but w6

[dense pine]

yea i just candied those 2 lol

[strange flare]

I might as well just afk them

ez

[dense pine]

[strange flare]

and I can get the pretty one

after the w3 ones I think

yeah i'll have enough

[odd obsidian]

man

[strange flare]

okay well all my guys are afk now

[empty mulch]

printing checklist guide?

[worn raptor]

FINALLY, get anvil3 after unlock w6

[fathom timber]

is every trap objectively better than the one before or do u lose some bonus (apart from 15% coin bonus on final upgrade)

[steep knoll]

ive already asked this but is it really normal that sb is just broken in w4 cause im on the mussels map with my sb rn and iam doing 100m damage per hit

im already doing enough dmg to kill the chaotic version of the troll in seconds

[odd obsidian]

yeah because you can get more traps placed (up until royal) and just more trapping power in general

its only if you get extremely unlucky with w6 stones that it can possibly be worse than a prior trap

[fathom timber]

k, those decisions about when to stop are more related to where to place those traps right?

[odd obsidian]

wdym?

[fathom timber]

just got a 1/4 void fishing rod

[vale escarp]

is it worth buying a spirit valley card pack?

[fathom timber]

I've heard like you have to stop going for better critters at some point idk if it's for more shiny chance, eff or just xp

[odd obsidian]

just go for critters that you need for stuff

[fathom timber]

it's not worth to buy any card pack

[odd obsidian]

leave a guy on scorpies, another on mouseys, then whatever you want

[vale escarp]

😭

[odd obsidian]

if your trapper is a vman then absolutely go for the highest critter you can

[worn raptor]

traps have diff bonuses

[blazing nexus]

It's not worth to buy anything but there are "better" things to buy if you were to buy anything before you'd consider them because they usually require additional purchases (4 star, 5 stars, or just more packs)

[worn raptor]

royal trap is last "set" trap, cuz after that, next traps cant be choose

[fathom timber]

I have the traps like this instead, am I losing any profit for some strange reason or is it just fine too? (I have that many penguin because I got late with trapping and needed them for W4 anvil)

[fathom timber]

just not card packs

[worn raptor]

you swap between nature (for lvl up trapping) or royal (critters+shinies)

[odd obsidian]

nah its not an issue

you are placing them with trapper drone, correct?

if so then all that matters is the trapping efficiency/bonus critter rate of the hunter that set the traps up

[worn raptor]

try to unlock shiny prayer

[fathom timber]

that was my question, tysm

[odd obsidian]

so thats what he meant okay..

[fathom timber]

yea, I haven't refreshed them since some weeks ago but I will soon

[strange prism]

whats base max level for meals? (no extra level from bonuses)

[odd obsidian]

30

[fathom timber]

is it matematically worth activating it if I got the no more praying gaming upgrade?

[brave kite]

JADE GAIN? damn

[worn raptor]

prayer thing from gaming sucks

[brave kite]

and it's multiplicative, wait, what does mean multiplicative in idleon

[odd obsidian]

probably just adds a x1.10 multiplier on top of everything

[brave kite]

give example

I never knew difference between multiplicative and not

[odd obsidian]

my character has 1b jade coins from various multipliers

i activate the star sign and his 1b turns into 1.1b

[fathom timber]

multiplicative is what multiplicates the base stat, and then there you get the +x total stat added at top

[brave kite]

alr, but like other sources, I didn't notice many things to be mentioned as multiplicative

so there is my confusion

[odd obsidian]

idleon is odd with these things

[fathom timber]

so base and multiplicative are most important

[worn raptor]

without star sign / with star sign

[strange flare]

It’s never enough

[brave kite]

ikr

[odd obsidian]

although some things are really confusin

[brave kite]

ye that thing

or any like this

very confusing for me

[strange flare]

Additive = added together.
Example: base * 2.0 + 2.0

Multiplicative = multiplier together
Example: base * 2.0 * 2.0

[fathom timber]

does it make a difference that dreadnaghut skull doesn't give wisdom anymore so it makes you need a top tier skull and a luciferian too? (same as royal and natural trapps)

[strange flare]

When it comes to incremental games (especially idleon) you get to figure out which multipliers are additive to each other and which one adds new multipliers

[dim lily]

When does Dr Defecaus spawn I know it says day but it can drop a pick for 6 upgrade slots and me want

[strange flare]

Might be better just crafting one lol

Especially if it’s on a class that would use it for the skill, the poop tools are really slow

[dim lily]

As a stat stick for my non warriors

[strange flare]

Probably on your reset

[slim chasm]

what soul gives the most xp

[brave kite]

Alright, and which bonuses are multiplicative or aditive? because it's not explained for every bonus

[blazing nexus]

depends on your td wave

[slim chasm]

all are the same

[sleek bane]

[hexed shoal]

Just check which totem gives most exp and worship there

[strange flare]

Hard to say, kinda have to learn by asking to watching the numbers change yourself

For example, vault cash upgrades are additive with gmush touch in lab

[shrewd hollow]

just this second i unlocked world 4

what is my first

thing to do i have zero knowledge of this world

[brave kite]

Alright, for now i'm just seeing what something gives, and I just get it

because either way, it's a growth

[hexed shoal]

Do the quest first

Then put everyone in lab and get all elites

[shrewd hollow]

which one

the sleeping guy?

carrot thing

[hexed shoal]

Yeah

[west pilot]

Bro i went to fucking sleep and it's still there

[hard thistle]

Wait 12 hours more

[brave kite]

Holy

Why so many squid masters

[sleek bane]

double frozen malone

[west pilot]

I think it will actually time out cause i went to sleep and didn't swap to dps team

So i will forfeit and leave it there

I didn't even want 200

[white path]

7 fucking hours?

[west pilot]

8 actually

[white path]

this is why I don't do td

[west pilot]

Went to sleep at 160

Didn't swap to dps but damm

[zenith hare]

cause theyre the most broken tower

who cares about dps if the enemies cant even damage you

only later on does dps matter

[cold wraith]

works very well with slow roast wiz

[zenith hare]

when each wave take just under 3 hours

[vital verge]

what

holy

i love playing idleon

[vestal spire]

Whts decent way to get accurecy and defense

[vital verge]

secondary stats and bubble

defense- bubble too

[vestal spire]

Other then bubbles

[vital verge]

armor

[vestal spire]

Any other

[vital verge]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=accuracy

[vestal spire]

Alr thx

[fierce trellis]

wow... I finally got trapper drone and it is the best thing since sliced bread

[vital verge]

tell me about it

i got trapper done before i got a BM

[fierce trellis]

took me a week and a half to get lucky on the 4 shiny scorpions

[vital verge]

i was doing traps manually since the dawn of time, so trapper done was just neat

[fierce trellis]

being able to place the traps remotely was so nice

[vestal spire]

Guys how can i move shrines

[fierce trellis]

a star talent

[vital verge]

the same way you place them

[brave kite]

if like 50 monsters decide to stac kup, then gl

nah 50 is still too low, think of 150

[vestal spire]

What can i improve https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=aymen167

[waxen copper]

Chat what's the setup for stages like green eggs and blam

[toxic roost]

how to get more bloaches for acc bubble? 😭 😭

i get like 100 every hour and its a massive massive pain

[white lintel]

That’s typical

Did you make secondary stat based armor?

[toxic roost]

as in the armor that boosts efficiency?

honestly no 😭 😭

hould i make the full fishing gear set for my berserker?

[waxen copper]

Probably

It's worth your time to invest in a purely skill-based set of armor

[toxic roost]

btw so im in W4 rn and im trying to get the secondary subclass on all of my guys, i have like gold armor and the goo boots on everyone except my divine knight and was wondering if i should start making better armor now?

like plat or dementia or wtvr its called lmfao

i have like everyone except the one im trying to get to elite class giver in lab while that one is pushing basically

[obtuse python]

It’ll get better

[toxic roost]

hopefully because i need the acc 😭 😭

[obtuse python]

I only do likr 40k an hour buystill helps

[obtuse python]

R u on dk?

As in pushing w him

[toxic roost]

honestly i stopped pushing with him for now untill i get the others their elite classes

should i just continue pushing with him to W5?

[obtuse python]

Keep him puo

Pushing

Other chars lab jailed for a bit

Till you get the 2x Kph lab node

[toxic roost]

even if they dont have their elite class? or is it not that important rn

[waxen copper]

If they're in lab it won't be too important

Unless it's your shaman

Shaman LOVE lab

[toxic roost]

ok ok so DK pushing and shaman pushing for elite class giver?

while others in lab jail?

[obtuse python]

Yeah can u ssnd me a pic of ur lab btw

[toxic roost]

i just started it like today lmfao 😭

[obtuse python]

Lol

[toxic roost]

but sure

[obtuse python]

This is the node u want

[toxic roost]

ok ok noted

yea im still far from that lmfao

[obtuse python]

Alg i neglect lab a ton aswell

Im early game so i still got time tho

[sour burrow]

yall

[junior terrace]

how do these upgrades work? i upgraded them before and it was back at 0

[sour burrow]

i love lab because i got bubo recently and lab scrubs cause it is 300% lab efficency

[obtuse python]

Yup

And lab rings

[sour burrow]

U got bubo?

wanna go do some dungeons

[toxic roost]

oof 😭 😭

[obtuse python]

All elites

[toxic roost]

i am so cooked

[sour burrow]

whattt

[obtuse python]

And deathbringer is in the making

[sour burrow]

do u have a crystal custard

[obtuse python]

All pets

[toxic roost]

dam

[sour burrow]

can u trade me it

i need it

also

i need a team for doot raid can u help

[obtuse python]

Im also cooked 😭

My dk is ass

[sour burrow]

wait

[obtuse python]

What

[obtuse python]

Tomorrow

[obtuse python]

Unreadable

Tradable

[toxic roost]

dam 😭 😭

im also like lower lvl compared to you lol

[eternal vector]

Im sorry I must be dumb, but how do I start the first pet battle ? I says only Breedability and Shiny go into Fenceyard

[toxic roost]

like 1/3 of your lvl

[sour burrow]

im less than 1/3

[obtuse python]

Scroll down

[sour burrow]

also can u help me do a doot raid

[obtuse python]

Im w6 thats expected

[frank gull]

How can i get the missing damage buff? The orange dmg thing.

[sour burrow]

anyone?

[eternal vector]

It does nothing ?

[sour burrow]

Someone Pls Help Me Do Doot Raid

[toxic roost]

sorry cant lmfao im just gonna put this stuff afk and go prep for midterms lmfao

[obtuse python]

Click battles

[obtuse python]

Doesent it look like this?

Send me a picture

[obtuse python]

Drag the pets into slots

[eternal vector]

Doesnt work

[toxic roost]

click fight

[eternal vector]

Gets to above screen

[obtuse python]

Yeah then drag the pets into one of those slots

[toxic roost]

yep

drag into the spots infront

[junior bane]

Send ss

[eternal vector]

omg Im so dumb lol

[toxic roost]

dw same thing happened to me lmfao

[eternal vector]

Thanks, sorry for bother

[toxic roost]

of?

[junior bane]

Was gonna check u actually dragged em into slot

But u figured it out so nvm

[toxic roost]

oh im not the one struggling lmfao i just helped the other guy hhh

thx tho

[junior bane]

💀

Im so dumb

[toxic roost]

felt lmfao

[lilac ingot]

!classes

[candid scarab]

One of each subclass for the six first characters, JourneyMan can be slot 7, 8 or 9. For three others characters you can do Wizard / Bowman / Barbarian / Squire.

Finals Objectives :

• 3 Warriors - 3 Archers - 3 Mages - 1 Secret Class (balanced)

⚠️⬇️Warning ⬇️⚠️

• NEVER do 3 of the same elite class, or you'll be unable to have all classes

[lilac ingot]

how accurate is this 🙂 ? i want to make a 4th warrior

[sour burrow]

!rank

[candid scarab]

🚫 admin_the_gamer_71649, that command is disabled in this channel.

[obtuse python]

Dont

Have a db, dk bb

Wait actually probably 2 dbs im not sure

Meh o well

Make all 10 classes vman

[lilac ingot]

lol tooo late

now on 2 mage 2 archer 3 warrior 1 secret

guess it's time for another mage

[toxic roost]

im pretty sure its 2dk 2es and 2bowman eliteclass (i forgot the name)

[obtuse python]

Sb

[toxic roost]

yaur sb

[brave swallow]

is voidwalker good for damage?

[sour burrow]

do u have any pets u can give me UK

[obtuse python]

Best on the game mate

[toxic roost]

cards helpt with acc and def a lil

[obtuse python]

No

[toxic roost]

gave me almost 1k acc lol

[obtuse python]

(It is horrible for dmg)

[brave swallow]

i mean if it’s bad I’m sure it will get better with another class upgrade

[brave swallow]

so how do I get accuracy then?

[obtuse python]

Dont get it for damage

At all

Its for skilling and sampling

[brave swallow]

ok so how do I get accuracy so my blood berserker doesn’t just keep on missing

[hazy thunder]

hey lads is there any reason not to eternally level up refinerry cause i may have f up

[brave swallow]

do I just farm bubbles and stuff?

[obtuse python]

Like even maestro has no dmg

[haughty root]

6/15

[obtuse python]

For deuscythe?

[haughty root]

ya

[brave swallow]

so how do I get accuracy?

[sleek bane]

the actual effective damage is pretty good with talents but the displayed damage will always be low

[obtuse python]

Recraft amarock using the stones from your best world with a mage. This adds accuracy

[obtuse python]

Meh

[brave swallow]

wtf does this mean

[haughty root]

sandcastle card, neyeptune card, precision prayer, poppy

[toxic roost]

Craft Amarok armor again and use the W4 stones

[brave swallow]

alr

[toxic roost]

If you want acc on warrior classes upgrade the armor with a mage

[obtuse python]

Make your armour- Swap to your mage and use W4 stones on ot WITH YOUR MAGE

[brave swallow]

what does mage do on it?

[obtuse python]

YOU DO NOT NEED STR, YOU NEED WIS

[brave swallow]

oh alr

[toxic roost]

The stones give class specific stats

So a mage adds wis, warrior adds str etc etc

[brave swallow]

do I need to make armarok armour specifically or does any armour work?

[toxic roost]

I mean Amarok is the preferred armor ig

What's your other options?

[obtuse python]

Just use amarok its cjeap and has slots

[brave swallow]

void/chizoar stuff ig

[obtuse python]

And also use steel bands with the stones from the mahe

[obtuse python]

No

[brave swallow]

ok

[obtuse python]

Not void or chizoar.

[twilit crypt]

@hazy thunder

[brave swallow]

just make troll armour?

[twilit crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-fuzzle-check-pins-gif-26301171

[toxic roost]

Steel bands are good?

[sleek bane]

void is pretty good and cheap later on

[obtuse python]

Wayyyy to hard to get for you

[hazy thunder]

THank you my dude or dudetter

[obtuse python]

Yes

[brave swallow]

how low level do you think I am?

[toxic roost]

Ig for slots?

[toxic roost]

You can easily beat troll boss?

[twilit crypt]

you're welcome

[obtuse python]

Well you didnt know main stat stones so sub 200 ig

[brave swallow]

I beat blighted chizoar

[toxic roost]

I mean if you wanna grind for the troll armor craft it ig and use w5-6 stones on it ig lol

[mighty abyss]

When instopable force meets imovable object (help it's been 15 minutes)

[obtuse python]

What lvl are you @brave swallow and ehat world

[sleek bane]

you need to grind for it anyways since you need it for later armors

[hazy thunder]

i was right i had messed up guess im a bit screwed for a bit

[brave swallow]

world 4 cause I have been min maxing maestro for no reason

[obtuse python]

Why?

[brave swallow]

just need the mushroom kills

[obtuse python]

Then you are low level

[hazy thunder]

my refinery ranks are a bit high

[sleek bane]

no such thing

[obtuse python]

Still extremely early game

[hazy thunder]

on ones that shouldnt be

[brave swallow]

i mean I can get troll armour probably if I get to him

[toxic roost]

Noted noted

[obtuse python]

Mine are bad lol

[hazy thunder]

how are yours bad out of curiosity

[shrewd hollow]

can you control 2 characters at once on mobile and steam?

[sleek bane]

its mainly annoying because of the nullo salts, everything else is pretty easy esp if you rushed to w6

[toxic roost]

I mean it's a single player-ish game so go for it lol

[sleek bane]

idk about that unless u got goated refinery

[brave swallow]

can’t I just like 1 shot him or smth

[toxic roost]

He do be trolling

[sleek bane]

why is orange the same rank as red

😭

[white lintel]

The high waves take hours

[obtuse python]

Whats your dmg

[hazy thunder]

oh my my apologies for saying some of my bad. mine are just ineffiecent

[brave swallow]

I kill chaotic chizoar in like 5-6 seconds

[obtuse python]

What are yours

[mighty abyss]

So that's why the load function is for

[obtuse python]

I asked damage

[minor needle]

Is there a ratio for salts?

[hazy thunder]

damn you can get to world 6 super early

[brave swallow]

idk 13 million

[obtuse python]

Bot the time to kill chizoar

[obtuse python]

What about acc

[brave swallow]

40k

[toxic roost]

How do I get good mob prints without having a void walker? 😭🙏🏼

[brave swallow]

I’m doing it on a voidwalker cause I miss on everything else

[sour burrow]

Uk can u come help me with somthing

[toxic roost]

Not good like decent early for refinery lol

[obtuse python]

Bro stop…

[sour burrow]

UK!

[obtuse python]

Do not push vman

[sour burrow]

i will tell u a server come join

[brave swallow]

I’ll use berserker once I get enough talent points on the vman

[toxic roost]

How long have you been going at refinery 😭😭

[obtuse python]

No

[obtuse python]

Lol

[sour burrow]

can some one come

[mighty abyss]

damn that's a lot and i'm struggling with red salt rank 7

[hazy thunder]

well ive took about a year long break but yeah'

[sleek bane]

rank 12 nullo

[toxic roost]

Ok salts look like actual hell wtf 😭😭

[sleek bane]

welcome to salt lock

[hazy thunder]

i thought id ask my question here but im definitely not at the same level as most of you lol

[toxic roost]

😭😭🙏🏼🙏🏼

[sour burrow]

someone come demon server 8

[obtuse python]

Stop trying to use a diff char and fix your acc problem, cause no point getting to w5 and to the boss w vman and getting fucked up real bad from lack of damage

[obtuse python]

U much higher

[toxic roost]

I mean he could do the boss once jjst to unlock w5 for shop and stuff

[obtuse python]

Go #endgame-chat-w7🐟 loool

[hazy thunder]

i also should have realised when your maestro was level 150 lollllll

[toxic roost]

What's your highest lvled character?

[hazy thunder]

but im early world 6 too so i mlike surely your around my level

[obtuse python]

My dn is like 350 i just neglecyed maestro

[obtuse python]

Nahhh

[hazy thunder]

its not super high but my bubo is 574

[obtuse python]

Level gaps crazy

[toxic roost]

"Not too high" and 574 in the same sentence 💔🥀

[mighty abyss]

idk how you guys level your characters they are all in lab jail or divinity jail 💀

[hazy thunder]

well compared to the weapons of the endgamers im nothing

funly enough im only top 50%

[obtuse python]

Some ppl much higher

[toxic roost]

Those ppl scare me lmfao

[sleek bane]

well if you rushed worlds you just active for a little bit and they get levels

you need levels for star signs anyways

[hazy thunder]

levelling up gets super easy but i was playing from well before w6 i also was around before w3 but not on this account

[toxic roost]

I started like a week or 2 now I think

[sleek bane]

but yea w5 is literally just the world of jails

[toxic roost]

Lol

[sleek bane]

after div jail you got hole jail now

[obtuse python]

Like that dmg

[hazy thunder]

ah ok well for reference i have 4.8k hours on steam

[toxic roost]

I'll get don't before hopefully 😄🙏🏼

[mighty abyss]

Oh no another one?

[white lintel]

The save and load function is pretty new

[toxic roost]

...

Dam

[mighty abyss]

and don't tell me there are jails in world 6

[hazy thunder]

so yeah a bit of a difference

[brave swallow]

i have other characters than v man

I just miss a lot

[obtuse python]

Nah not really

[sleek bane]

pushing jail 👍

[obtuse python]

Theb fix that

[sleek bane]

cant push without fixing your account

[hazy thunder]

slow down work on alchemy and stamps

[toxic roost]

How I'm portmanteau are guild bonuses?

[obtuse python]

Mmm

[brave swallow]

mb I thought you meant acc as in account instead of accuracy

[obtuse python]

Stampd pain

[brave swallow]

imma go just level bubbles and stuff

[white lintel]

Certain ones are very important

[obtuse python]

40k account?

Wym by that

[arctic spindle]

The ice cream guy in the hub of world 3 is giving me a quest to use a star book that he gave me but i never got it is there a fix to that?

[mighty abyss]

i will need to get that sweet 90% print rate soon then

[brave swallow]

i thought you meant like fix my account

[raven peak]

im about to unlock my 7th character and i already have all of the main people what do i make him?

[toxic roost]

I made him a journeyman/maestro

[brave swallow]

mb, imma go figure it out myself, Ty for the help though

[sleek bane]

max royal sampler

[obtuse python]

I asked your accuracy…

[toxic roost]

Because fun

[raven peak]

what is that

[toxic roost]

Secret class

[raven peak]

is that warrior

[mighty abyss]

but acorn assault is hell :/

[obtuse python]

No

[raven peak]

oh

[obtuse python]

Peanut class

[raven peak]

ill look it up ty

[obtuse python]

So is Vman

[sleek bane]

td is hell in general but you gotta do it eventually. it's also not as bad with save function now

[raven peak]

vman?

[obtuse python]

Jman
Mman
Vman

[raven peak]

how many secret classes are there

[toxic roost]

Worship the peanut

[obtuse python]

All 1 quest line

[toxic roost]

Journeyman and maestro and vman are all the same class

[obtuse python]

!vman

[candid scarab]

Losing deathnote kills after running your Void Trial is not a bug.
You'll have maps unlocked afterwards based on the furthest any of your characters have made it. Grats, progression is now easier, but go catch up on deathnote with other classes.
W6 note: ||This can also assist with passing the W6 locks if another character has cleared the map already, giving you a free pass.||

[toxic roost]

Just different tiers

[raven peak]

is he good?

[obtuse python]

For skilling and samples

[mighty abyss]

any tower i should level? I have boulder level 20 but it seems not very good

[raven peak]

ok thanks guys

[sleek bane]

level boulder until you get poisonic

but low level poisonic is pretty dookie so you need to level it a bit before swapping over as well

[mighty abyss]

poisonic is at 1 M and i have 31k/hour so not today lmao

[sleek bane]

you should be able to get decently far with boulders ngl

on acorn

p sure i had like wave 70-80 with boulder setup

[mighty abyss]

idk i dormamu'ed, in a stalemate on wave 30 and just gave up

[sleek bane]

u could try following the guide

[mighty abyss]

there is a guide???

[sleek bane]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[mighty abyss]

thanks

[sleek bane]

its a bit dated but they still work

[warm flare]

should i upgrade a funny hat although im only in w4?

[sleek bane]

funny hat?

[sleek bane]

i mean you should upgrade any gear you plan on using

[warm flare]

but this is one time item

[sleek bane]

yea it's not that good tho

but you could wait if u care a lot

[granite bay]

What does this mean? From the BB talent guide.

"Cooking/Fishing Preset (Should not cook until you have at least W1/W2 CHOWed)"

[true hamlet]

Afking at kitchen gives ladles, not worth it early on

[sleek bane]

specifically you want to stack this up

is what they mean by chows

[granite bay]

perfect. thanks

[mighty abyss]

when should i try to farm apocalypse on BB?

[sleek bane]

when your kph is good

should be pretty simple to candy w1 - w3

at least w1 - w2

[arctic spindle]

Would doing his quest with another character give me the book, is this something I'd need to contact the dev about to get fixed, or is my account potentially bricked because i can't collect samples?

[sleek bane]

yea you should get the book everytime you do the quest

you can also try reclaiming in quest tab in codex

[toxic roost]

any good early way to get candy?

[sleek bane]

farm minibosses on dk

[toxic roost]

im gs minibosses maybe?

[mighty abyss]

and thanks for the guide @sleek bane the TD is much smoother

[sleek bane]

also do your giant mob spawns

just equip the prayer on everyone

assuming you have finished the chiz questline

[toxic roost]

oh at what lvl do i get it?

[toxic roost]

i havent lmfao i barely finished any quests yet 😭 😭

[sleek bane]

wave 11 on 2nd td

daily source is also basketball ig

[toxic roost]

yea i do basketball daily

i honestly used like all of my candies to get from w3-w4 in like a day or 2 😭 😭

[torpid acorn]

Arcade i think has low chance for candys, it follows with killroy

[sleek bane]

[kind fossil]

what should i buy (i dont got enough for fractal island)

[sleek bane]

shimmer

[kind fossil]

ok

[torpid acorn]

Shimmer

[sleek bane]

fractal should be last imo

[atomic fable]

Is level 20 on the 8th tower the point where boulder is replaced?

since I have it at level 37

[torpid acorn]

It might depend on the location but not sure

[sleek bane]

ngl i just started using poisonic once i got it to like lvl 15

[torpid acorn]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview?pli=1 i think theres a guide list in here

[atomic fable]

Oh, the guide mentions boulder is replaced by level 20+ poisonic

[arctic spindle]

Can't reclaim it so hopefully other characters will get it. Since it wasn't a reward from the last completed mission i must have sold it thinking it was one of the under leveled books from the party dungeon/ alchemy shop i had at the time

[raven peak]

whats the fastest way to level up my account level? do i want to add to my class levels, overall level, or both

[sleek bane]

what

account level is just class level of each character added up

[raven peak]

mb i meant specialized

er skill level

[atomic fable]

Account level is based on each characters class level

[raven peak]

im basically asking if say, my smithing level will help towards it?

[sleek bane]

towards account level?

[raven peak]

yea

[sleek bane]

no

[atomic fable]

It helps for skill mastery, but not for account level

[raven peak]

Ok thanks thats all i wanted

[strange flare]

Account level for unlocking new players is class level

[raven peak]

ik

[strange flare]

Oh I’m blind cupcake said that just off my screen

[sleek bane]

[atomic fable]

It's alright

[toxic roost]

man the 20% to apply on the W4 stones is pain

[pale thicket]

how do i speed up equinox fill bar?

[sleek bane]

some dreams give you extra fill rate

[toxic quartz]

also the ore from equinox's vial

marble mocha is the name of the vial I think

[sleek bane]

oh yea forgot about the vials mb

[open wolf]

is vip library membership useless after getting the last book?

[pale thicket]

do the dreams unlocked go in order?cause first one got was greenstack 20 items

[toxic quartz]

yes

2 and 3 are the easiest tho I think

[pale thicket]

im looking forward to 3

[toxic quartz]

should be like 400 kills in killroy (doesnt unlock anything huge) and 100 on all chars that unlocks the next upgrade

[pale thicket]

i wanna unlock the resources

[tawny stratus]

I’m on get lvl 250 on all characters but that’s going to be annoying cause I’m at 10 characters now and most are in lab and I don’t wanna lose access to my buffs lol

[sleek bane]

just do 1 at a time

or wait til w5 to do that one

[hard mango]

how should i beat chizor

elemental mage btw

or uh sorcerer thingy

[vale escarp]

what is your loadout

[hard mango]

1 sec

like my attacks?

[vale escarp]

ye + ur talents and armour/weapon

[hard mango]

1st

2nd

[vale escarp]

r u struggling on 1st difficulty chizoar?

[hard mango]

no just wondering im almost there at him

[vale escarp]

ohhhhhh

[hard mango]

im on the eye guys

[vale escarp]

btw make a seperate preset for getting wood

[hard mango]

i do i just still have that

[vale escarp]

ah kk

what armour you got?

[sleek bane]

double def ring 💀

[hard mango]

i got no other good rings

[sleek bane]

you can use the boss dmg rings from w1 shop

[cobalt hatch]

should i use this when getting prints

[sleek bane]

have to mess around to see if the hp buff lowers your gains

[slow flame]

do happy hour dungeons every time u see them, the shops have great rings all the way to end game

[cobalt hatch]

does it buff skills tho

[sleek bane]

no but for mob drops it can be better

[crude kernel]

prints? like sampling?

[cobalt hatch]

yeah

[white lintel]

Not yet at least

[hard mango]

nvm chizor was very very easy

[white lintel]

All bosses are super powercrept rn

[hard mango]

welp off to world 4 i go

[white lintel]

Have fun in jail

[hard mango]

cant wait for elemental wizard 🙂

[white lintel]

ES is fun, one of my favorites

[hard mango]

so purble

breeding and pet fighting is so confusing wth do i do

how do i fight

how do i get a fight team

how do i get a pet teammmmmmmmm

[turbid stag]

I can talk about how to improve that in DMs

[hard mango]

nvm i found

wait am i softlocked

i unlocked a squirrel before the quest told me to

[compact pagoda]

real mfs wake up early

they don't sleep much

[hard mango]

im softlocked arent i

oh nvm how do i claim a spice

[thin iron]

sup guys, new player who's getting carried by vault, rn I got gold weapons and all my people have zero gear. Should I make amarok gear for all my peeps, or would it better to start mining for plat

[compact pagoda]

amarok but with a gold or platinum helm

[thin iron]

okay, I also have no rings, what should I do for hat?

[compact pagoda]

try doing a few dungeons

[thin iron]

lol, Ive started doing em but I basically afk cuz i have no idea wtf im doing xD

[compact pagoda]

hh going on

[thin iron]

yeah im trying to get in now

[compact pagoda]

u kill monsters then they mats

u drop mats on cauldron

boss spawn u kill boss ibget flurbo and stuff

[thin iron]

got a recommendation to a beginner friendly dungeon explanation? cuz I go in there and see shitty gear that drops that replaces mine???

[ripe coyote]

Tbh just play it

Play -> Upgrade dugeon stats and u eventually improve along the way

thats what i did at least

[compact pagoda]

well its better with a good team

[ripe coyote]

that too

[compact pagoda]

so u don't waste ur 20x drops

[ripe coyote]

Only reasons I pushed dungeons is for the achievements (and talent books)

[compact pagoda]

the stats are also nice u get from upgrading

in the shops

do ur dungeons

whenever hh is there

[ripe coyote]

I forgot about this....