midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[bronze moth]

i wanna have a fresh start again

[jolly kiln]

I mean you did rush its recoverable

[jolly kiln]

its just your gonna need to pretend ur in w3

[cedar urchin]

I did a reprint

[jolly kiln]

for like ~1 month then pretend ur in w4 for like a month etc

[slow flame]

^ just focus on a world at a time

[bronze moth]

true

[echo radish]

[slow flame]

do the reqs for the mats for that world and make sure u push to max efficiency for them

[bronze moth]

I really wanna try doing an idleon world play through again to see if i can get better results

[jolly kiln]

yea w/ w1 and 2 stuff your problem will likely just be alchemy and stamps

[slow flame]

then when ur done move onto next world, while ur focusing on worlds invest in divinity and lab on all ur other chars except the one ur working on

[jolly kiln]

mostly fishing tho

[hasty phoenix]

Can someone explain me how I should lab? I got all my characters to lvl 5 but I feel like its a waste to leave characters afk when they could be rushing or grinding other stuff, im almost out of w4

[jolly kiln]

fishing = slow mf

[bronze moth]

i am cooked

[slow flame]

i need to catch up on my catching and chopping

[azure estuary]

Is there a foraging guide i can reffer to to up my spice production

[slate parrot]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml# over here it says if alchemic is unlocked, switch looter and refiller, what does switch mean here, do i replace looter and refiller with alchemic? but i can only replace on of them

[slow flame]

my mining was fine but now i need to use my main barb for my deathbringer so i cant rlly farm ores anymore unless i use another char but thats such a trek

[jolly kiln]

your mining prints are decent for w4 standards your logs samples are a bit undercooked

yea gmush pretend ur in w5 for unlocks but w/ div to make lab slaves not as needed

[white lintel]

All toons in lab

Except pusher

[jolly kiln]

unless your not pushing in which it isnt as necessary to do this even then you should have like 4 chars that are just print slaves regardless so no point not putting them in, for me rn Im doing this might put a 5th char in soon so im not missing out on much leaving those 5 other chars out of lab

[harsh nebula]

I got everything but a foot and bloque 😭🙏

[iron mica]

How do I know when the reset time is for no alchemy bubble left behind? Do I have a counter somewhere I could use?

[jolly kiln]

daily reset for shops

[hasty phoenix]

its feel like such a loss of other resourses tho, I heard the lab is pretty strong but is it that much?

[jolly kiln]

my only chars that are progressing stuff is bc they either need kills or are my money guy for vault rn

[shy ruin]

hell yeah i got blitzkrieg troll card first try

[harsh nebula]

Fried

[white lintel]

It’s not bc you can use the 3D printer

[jolly kiln]

oh and that one dude on cooking

[white lintel]

And there’s a 2x print bonus for labbed toons with a node

[jolly kiln]

3d printer go brrr

[slow flame]

one of the best upgrades hands down is there, called no bubble left behind which levels up ur bubbles in alchemy on a daily level

[white lintel]

Free of charge

[slow flame]

then there is also a multiplier for printer output in the lab as well, boosts alot of many other things but thats probs the best stuff

[sleek stone]

I have 1 in 93 spawn chance for crystal monster is it good to farm for onyx statue?

[harsh nebula]

No tax at all!

[slow flame]

plus u can use merit certifs to upgrade the amount of bubbles too

[sleek stone]

Dont have chocochip tho

[bronze moth]

yeahh i kinda wanna try restarting on a new acc

[slow flame]

honestly wait ngl

[bronze moth]

to see if i can get better results

[harsh nebula]

You can have both

[slow flame]

choc chip is coming to rotation i think in a month

some time in april

[sleek stone]

Ahh okay

[harsh nebula]

Do you have the link for that?

[slow flame]

let me c

[harsh nebula]

The rotation thing

[sleek stone]

Then gonna farm drop rate till 10x till then

[echo radish]

why tho just work on ur current account no?

[white path]

Ludwig how is ur speedrun account going

[noble moth]

when i get excess red salt, i start putting orange salt on, no?

[hasty phoenix]

oh I meant like cards and non 3d print stuff but yea I guess all other lab bonus will give a much better result

[hasty phoenix]

so I should go lab for all characters except the one I am pushing with?

[bronze moth]

it's cooked so much that it would take months to save it

[slow flame]

worth waiting 30 days for ur own sanity ngl, im atp where ive waited like 2 months jjst because of the pain it is to farm crystal mobs withoht it

[slow flame]

yeah get them all levels

[jolly kiln]

how tf did u get it this cooked

[echo radish]

as i told chroni who kept nagging me to make it, i will only play when i'm in vc with him

[jolly kiln]

you do realize that itd take months to get to the point in w6 regardless

you skipped 2 worlds of progression in the previous worlds

[white path]

if u know what ur doing getting to w6 takes less than a month

[jolly kiln]

at minimum

[bronze moth]

true

[echo radish]

u should stop reacting to shit and start answering normally

[jolly kiln]

yea the problem is doing this w/o interacting w/ other mechanics

[echo radish]

probably a week with vault

[jolly kiln]

I wonder how unprepared for w6 mechanics theyd be w/ this

[slim quiver]

should i blitz through w3 and try to unlock w4 or should i take it slow and unlock all the w3 construction stuff first

[echo radish]

very

[jolly kiln]

you wont complete all of construction but gettign some more wont hurt

[slim quiver]

gotcha

ty

[jolly kiln]

Id suggest not rushing too much but getting the next world will help

w4 mechanics have a slow startup time for their bonuses tho bewarned

[sturdy totem]

Did first global reprint of the week immediately followed by spamming vman talent, got like 300 atoms at once when I could barely get 5 a day before, life is good

Do your prints people

[jolly kiln]

@slim quiver I will say if ur on like the last 3 maps of world 3 at your slower pace you could just jump to w4

bc w4 is kinda easy to get to

but if u feel like a skill or 2 is under par it might make you feel unprepared

[slim quiver]

nah i basically just started, only have the first 4 maps

[dusty harness]

rush to w6

[jolly kiln]

yea take it slow for a bit then go for w4 when ur more confident in the w3 mechanics and the w1 and 2 mechanics(shouldnt be to bad)

[jolly kiln]

your telling them to feel unprepared and like they arnt progressing for months

[sturdy totem]

rushing 4 life

[jolly kiln]

catching up feels worse than progressing normally tbh

[sturdy totem]

It's not everyone's cup of tea for sure

[dusty harness]

atleast w6 makes it a lot harder to rush when w7 comes out

[sturdy totem]

W6 is probably impossible to fully rush atm but thanks to vault it's sorta possible to at least rush to w6

[dusty harness]

imagine in the future someone come into world 6 with their 30m dmg es and try to rush it

[jolly kiln]

dear god

[jolly kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

I swear this is 90% of people who rushed to w6

the # is prob closer to 70% but still

[sturdy totem]

I rushed to w6 and hit a wall

[jolly kiln]

the # of mechancis u need to catch up on

is actually INSANE

[minor needle]

me in w4/w5

[sturdy totem]

But like now life is peaceful I don't need to push maps as hard and can just do a buncha skilling

[jolly kiln]

taking ur time and understanding each mechanic and how powerful they are

is nice not being overwhelmed

[noble moth]

its not really cooked lmao. like a week of rank ups and nothing else

[bronze moth]

😭 this is gonna take like a few months

[jolly kiln]

True but itll be a bit of pain anyways

[sturdy totem]

the vault updates helped me catch up in cooking & breeding, I'm almost done getting all spices and recipes currently grinding for the gold eggs achievements

[slim quiver]

did the vault recently get updated? i started like a week ago

[noble moth]

not really tbh. only problem are salts

[sturdy totem]

and those skills helped me be able to connect to all lab nodes despite low lab levels

[jolly kiln]

that is the pain I was talking about

[sturdy totem]

it got a 2nd update probably like two weeks ago

[cedar urchin]

i unlocked msa totalizer but i dont see it, anyone know why?

[sturdy totem]

It's on worship totem in w3

Also u didn't buy it yet

[cedar urchin]

wait in that ss it doesnt show i unlocked it but i bought it

[sturdy totem]

ok well it's in the worship totem in w3

[jolly kiln]

did u close the game

right after u got it?

[cedar urchin]

i cloud saved yes

[jolly kiln]

if u close the game too fast after doing something it sometimes wont save(its like 5-10 secs but still)

[cold wraith]

have you upgraded the auto arm to unlock the totem thing?

[sturdy totem]

...did you get the upgrade from the auto arm first

[cedar urchin]

oh

[cold wraith]

the thing from gaming gives upgrades per 10 waves

but you need the totem first

[cedar urchin]

does the totem come from the auto arm

[sturdy totem]

Yes

3rd upgrade I believe

[cedar urchin]

oh that makes a lot of sense now..

[sturdy totem]

Gotta focus on it! :3

For the foreseeable future

[cedar urchin]

okie ty ! i was like wondering how to get it

[sturdy totem]

np

[jaunty hemlock]

oh i didn't follow the guide for worship....i use ES to buff to get all char's worship on my ES. so i could've use my hunter to doing worship...

[echo radish]

r a femboy

[white lintel]

I feel like its faily conclusive from their profile

[echo radish]

yo @cold wraith sup

[cold wraith]

😄

[echo radish]

only thing that screams femboy in his profile is that he's friend with keilen

[cold wraith]

i would like to say whats up but arctis is here ready to mog me so i wont

[white lintel]

hey, dont diss on Keilen

[white lintel]

why would I mog you?

[cedar urchin]

meow

[cold wraith]

my dr 💀

luds the guy that kept telling me to get my fuarkin dr up

[echo radish]

it was a compliment lil bro

[white path]

how do u know that unless ur also friends with Keilen, did u just call urself a femboy

[echo radish]

🧢

[white lintel]

Waffle whats your DR?

[echo radish]

fuck i'm out

[echo radish]

it's good tbh

[cold wraith]

lud has 0 idea 💀

[white lintel]

is your name waffle???

[vagrant gorge]

Guys how do I make pingy traps work ?

[echo radish]

around 30x

[white path]

Waffle's dr is better than mine

[echo radish]

sometimes

[white lintel]

Waffle is gaming, but his sailing is still ass

[cold wraith]

can we STOP mentioning sailing

just seeing that word is making me tingle

[white lintel]

finish sailing then

[echo radish]

whats ur dr

[cold wraith]

im claiming every 2-3 hours and 0 freakin sovs

[white path]

36.95x

[vagrant gorge]

Guys can u please talk about sailing in world 5 ?

[cold wraith]

por qué

[echo radish]

thats not bad, seems higher then waffle

[white lintel]

same way you use every other traps to get critters

[cold wraith]

we talking about my account not js sailing

[vagrant gorge]

Since I'm trying to know how to make my traps work for pingy and flooding for sailing make it hard for me

[white path]

Waffle don't u have 40x dr

[white lintel]

I just replied

Lud whats your DR?

[vagrant gorge]

Thanks but the dungeon thingy hide the critter trap interface

[cold wraith]

???

[white lintel]

you can x out of the HH noti

[cold wraith]

like 55+ or smth wild

[vagrant gorge]

Euh ? How do I do that

[white lintel]

send a sc of it

[echo radish]

this message is the sole reason i cannot do anything but hate you btw

[white path]

in sir stache map not w3 dungeon

[cold wraith]

thats wild

[vagrant gorge]

Ahh thought it was here

[cold wraith]

i cant help but assume that was not meant as a complement

[echo radish]

dadoums deadass compared my account to yours

[cold wraith]

i mean i do have the perfect account so its understandable

[white lintel]

isnt that @ ashley?

[echo radish]

u don't know the lore

[cold wraith]

i knew the lore but forgot about it 💀

[white path]

Ludwig whats ur total alchemy level

[shut hull]

Lore?

[cold wraith]

been so long since i seen you in chat

[echo radish]

we shall never know

[white lintel]

no

[echo radish]

do u know about the chroni lore at least

[white lintel]

storytime?

did it happen over summer?

[cold wraith]

is it really the best idea to talk about this with roro online

[fierce stream]

I have a question abt cabbage

[cold wraith]

i fear the next mute

[shut hull]

I don't know the lore, I mainly stick to genchat

[shut hull]

What is it

[cold wraith]

just said in mustache map

[fierce stream]

Does the cabbage affect in cooking work on the first table that isn't making a new meal?

[fierce stream]

cause I feel its slower when my first kitchen is making a new item

[echo radish]

chroni lore would have happened around 2 years ago i think

[white lintel]

before I started then

[vagrant gorge]

Yeah got it it's just network that's slow the picture was sent 3business day before

[white path]

Chronicals doesn't exist

[echo radish]

just go look at the message and you will understand

[white lintel]

which one?

[cold wraith]

he clearly specified "the message"

[white lintel]

oh Void

[echo radish]

the dadoums message

[white lintel]

where

[white lintel]

cabbage works on all kitchens

dad has 28k messages man

[vagrant gorge]

Should I unlock pingy critters or something? They ain't here

[fierce stream]

ya I know, but it looks like food is produced slower when my first kitchen (with the most upgrades) isnt producing any

[cold wraith]

you need to do the lord hunter quests to unlock new critters

[echo radish]

this comes from that convo and it's just peak

[bronze moth]

so i need to work on everything from w4 and onwards

[vagrant gorge]

Okey thanks

[bronze moth]

i have void tools as well

idk why they're low (samples)

[split cypress]

is 20k starfire ore/h is good?

[umbral crystal]

how important is full troll set?

[shut hull]

Pretty important, as it crafts into magma, kruk, marble, then godshard

[umbral crystal]

gross ok

[cold wraith]

eventually youll want it on all characters

[umbral crystal]

mostly trying to figure out how important it is to get through the troll kill achievements at the moment

[shut hull]

Do it, one of the tasks allows you to hit troll a few times without playing his games

[minor needle]

what 😮

[shut hull]

yep

[umbral crystal]

ok but this is lame

[shut hull]

Well Cass, if you think that about all the tasks in idleon you'll never get anywhere

[umbral crystal]

i just think that about the tasks that make me do things in order

[crystal fractal]

You're a spirit of Chaos Cass, and I respect it.

[shut hull]

Yeah those fucking suck

[cold wraith]

the w5 one makes you kill the highest difficult on all 10 characters 💀

[umbral crystal]

in order? ill die

[cold wraith]

hardest part is vman and the keys needed

[umbral crystal]

pretty sure the hardest part is doing it in order tbh

[cold wraith]

not rlu

boss itself took me like 5 seconds

[cunning flume]

It's only hard if you did it before you can 1 hit KO it

Vman kills it one shot too lol

[cold wraith]

i mean i only had 6T dmg at the time

[cunning flume]

Once you get a ways world 6 you could do 2 billion damage with a level 1 beginner

[cold wraith]

nkruk?

wait i think thats with mob hp prayers on

[cunning flume]

I thought you were talking about w3 boss

That's 1Q without prayers

[torn tree]

wat meal is this ?

[dusty harness]

pet breeding odds one iirc?

[brave cove]

check wiki i suppose

that looks like the marshmallow?

[torn tree]

i check but dont find i'm blind i guess

[brave cove]

or the cup one

[dusty harness]

marshmallow is way later

i think its the truffle one

[cunning flume]

I think it's cheese

Whatever that one does lol

[torn tree]

it's the last meal i get

[brave cove]

no it's not cheese

[dusty harness]

cheese is earlier

[brave cove]

the wiki should be in order, just look for the meals in between fortune cookie snd bunt cake

[cunning flume]

Might be chocolate truffle then

[torn tree]

y

[pure swan]

is there any reason to keep these equinox mirrors i keep getting

[vernal nimbus]

I'm farming the w3 boss for cards and it seems like it's giving diminishing returns the more I kill him. Am I just tripping?

Or is that an intended mechanic?

[white lintel]

gstack for the insane

[bronze moth]

arctis what should my samples be for w6

[pure swan]

im getting like 100 of them an hour 😭

[bronze moth]

i'll show my ie rq

nvm toolbox

[pure swan]

100/hr equinox mirror gstack goes crazy

[white lintel]

thats a huge range

[bronze moth]

oops early w6

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=cacaxaxa

[west garnet]

any warrior willing to help open doot?

[brave cove]

unlucky

[bronze moth]

pls no agressivenes 😭

[brave cove]

gstack in the future i suppose

[dusty harness]

server?

[west garnet]

pizza 4

[lone swan]

how do i get this?

[fierce stream]

the goblin oil in the mining tutorial

dont use it

when u smelt ithe copper bar

[brave cove]

you don't even have to smelt anything

[lone swan]

i mean i have it in my chest

but nothing

[brave cove]

take it out and check tasks again

[lone swan]

still nothing

[white lintel]

push for 250K, and then push for 1M

you need to equip royal sampler on everyone. and print the right things on the right toons.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aW_lVDeIMZjIc5u5yy8Np1z7ixmNV-Hy49aCWYGv210/edit?gid=0#gid=0
use this spreadsheet, it should be mostly applicable, but youll need to deviate

I was expecting worse prints, you said you had like 10k prints earlier.
push more sample % and work on your flies bc they are not very good.

if you want help with how to get your prints up lmk

[brave cove]

here's the obvious question, are you on steam

[bronze moth]

got it!

[lone swan]

yes

[bronze moth]

anything else I need to work on?

[white lintel]

I can give you a write up when Im available, DM me your IT

[bronze moth]

done

I'm gonna work on getting skilling on my other dk set up and getting my 2 eses skilling set up

[white lintel]

If you wanna get yourself fixed up before I take a look lmk, or I can just jump in.

[bronze moth]

you can just jump in so ik my priorities

[white lintel]

cool

[bronze moth]

tysm for helping 😄

[white lintel]

ofc

eventually Im hoping to put together an early w6 guide as a conglomeration of early w6 acc reviews

[brave cove]

stealing that spreadsheet thank you

[bronze moth]

having 6 sample slots is getting annoying ngl i should save up for another one

[brave cove]

speaking of are you down to do yet another early w6 acc review arctis

[white lintel]

anotther, did I do you recently?

[brave cove]

i think i should have someone look at my acc at this point

no, i used another cus you just looked at gmush's

[white lintel]

or jsut bc im doing gmushes

[white lintel]

havent looked yet

yea just send me your IT

in Dms

[brave cove]

ok

is there a way to check how old the account is

[white lintel]

itll be a google doc liekly, not a spreadsheet but well see

[brave cove]

i meant the sampling one but when your w6 guide comes out I'll be taking that as well

[white lintel]

ohhhhh gotcha

I should do another alt acc to check out how f2p early w6 is

bc I aint spending money on an alt

[brave cove]

sent the dm

[brave cove]

oh ok

so it's been about 2 weeks

2 weeks early w6 seems not bad

[white lintel]

2 weeks to push to w6?

[brave cove]

yea

[white lintel]

[pure swan]

should i ribbon pancakes

[white lintel]

It took me like 2-3 months to go from w4 to w6

[white lintel]

not a big one but sure you could

[lone swan]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=number_one0242 how can i make my miner (gsgsgsgsd) better? hes only getting 200 void ore/h

[white lintel]

more eff, speed, multi-ore, afk gain rate

stamps, alchemy, and talents

[bronze moth]

i feel like this one is a important one to level up

and this

also getting your pickaxe to a higher tier is also essential

also royal sampler and big pickaxe talent if you have the resources to

[lone swan]

it went up to 300 after upgrading stronk tools and Wyoming blood its expensive though

[bronze moth]

what's ur eff atm

[white lintel]

cards, talents

[radiant mica]

do chips only work on the character you equip em on, im assuming thats the case

[white lintel]

y

[radiant mica]

awesome

[lone swan]

45.3k

[brave cove]

that's kinda low

ah i see a jman

can you get maestro anytime soon?

maestro is a huge huge boost to skill eff and exp

[bronze moth]

oof i had 100k when i got to void ore (given, i did neglect skilling till w6)

[white lintel]

only if you can keep your mmans lvls up which is hard without big acc wide boosts

[bronze moth]

yeah my vman is catching up on mining level and it's a slow grind

[lone swan]

maestro is still a bit far away but the first skill (mining) is nearly level 35 or 32 idk

[lone swan]

danm

[bronze moth]

yeah w6 boosted my mining efficiency

I have like almost 1m now

[pure swan]

with the shrine boost in lab (if its in town spawn it works for that entire world) does that still give the shrines the afk gains to level up?

[brave cove]

yes, anywhere on that world

[lone swan]

i dont even really need void ore i just want it

[bronze moth]

i may have confused this with moai from sailing but it's only if it's on your map isn't it

[pure swan]

ooohhh,,,, i just unlocked double stamps idc about shrines this feels so juicy

[brave cove]

get shrines as well lmfao

[pure swan]

cant get both

barely able to get double stamps by pixels

everyone's already on the same map anyways (dedodated rams and bloodbones)

[brave cove]

you mean bloodbones

[pure swan]

pusher doesnt need shrines rn its just mid w5

[west garnet]

shrines buff in w4 is great when everyones in jail lol

[brave cove]

wait, not all your characters except pusher are labbing?

[pure swan]

mman only account, im getting my vmen

[brave cove]

ohhhhhhh

ok your name makes sense

[pure swan]

also i rushed level 2 pocket div so i have arctis always active

[white lintel]

[hasty phoenix]

is this refering here

[white lintel]

no

[hasty phoenix]

or here

[white lintel]

the second option

[hasty phoenix]

alright ty

[torn tree]

is it normal this one get like a sonic boost and dont get hit by kraken ?

[mint rivet]

Greetings gentlemen and ladies!

👋🏿

[woeful karma]

hello again lmao

[lone swan]

is this gonna take forever or..

[woeful karma]

not that long

[woeful karma]

also

[mint rivet]

wow you passsed me

[echo radish]

That's what she said

[mint rivet]

also finally this is done

[woeful karma]

nice pfp
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im blanking on the machiens name

uhh

mealurgic infuser?

[echo radish]

Nerd ahh mfer

[mint rivet]

I should probably take the hat off, I forgot about it

[woeful karma]

metallurgical infuser*

[formal totem]

is it possible to make coin toss to auto used in auto mode? my mman only use indiana attack

[woeful karma]

youve beat me

[woeful karma]

nope

like the vial toss of shamen
its amanual aim attack

[mint rivet]

first E jade

[crystal pivot]

when do you get access to sigils, and where are they?

[formal totem]

ah, i see. thank you for the information.

[mint rivet]

I am so close to m2

[mint rivet]

in alchemy, p2w tab

but warning: DO NOT touch sigils until u unlocked all w1-w6 bubbles

[formal totem]

i have no idea what this mean

[formal totem]

oh kay

[formal totem]

why?

[woeful karma]

you have no need for it i would assume

watch me get all bubbles before W4 lmao

[mint rivet]

since you won't get far and u slow down unlocking bubbles progress

[formal totem]

that's wild, lol

[mint rivet]

having the sigil bonuses is nice, but for you impossible

[mint rivet]

ur w3?

[woeful karma]

i mean im getting there

[woeful karma]

mid W3 roughly

[mint rivet]

really avoiding that lab jail huh

[woeful karma]

been in W2 for less then 2 months

[formal totem]

heee, kay. i haven't touch lab

[woeful karma]

yea

[mint rivet]

its alchemy

[woeful karma]

it is?

[formal totem]

i mean unlock sigil need lab

[woeful karma]

oh

[mint rivet]

oh u don't have lab node, good

[formal totem]

@@

[torn tree]

if i forfeit a worship my actual wave is count as best ?

[woeful karma]

lab would be huge for me i assume

[mint rivet]

keep it that way as an extra layer of protection so u don't fall in a progress slowing hole

damn Lava wrote this

[formal totem]

i just planed to unlock 9th slot char. so, no lab for now

[woeful karma]

who told me i needed rift for lava skulls btw
because that is apparently bullshit

[torn tree]

do i forfeit ? my old best wave was 13 so if i lost this and dont get it xd

[woeful karma]

as a heads up

[mint rivet]

u need rift for eclipse skulls

[woeful karma]

your best wave would be the last wave you cleared with no ennmies left

[formal totem]

why u didn't increase the world? xd

[woeful karma]

ah

[woeful karma]

hobby

[formal totem]

i see

[woeful karma]

(there are actually reasons but they are long and id have to look for it)

[mint rivet]

u are the opposite of rushing

[woeful karma]

ty

[thorny plaza]

How much accuracy do i need for chaotic troll?

[mint rivet]

it isn't a compliment, fastest progress is gained by being in the middle of rushing and staying

[woeful karma]

anything is a complement if you take it as one :D

[formal totem]

no idea

[thorny plaza]

Lmao alright

Wiki just said 7

So imma take that as 7k since regular troll is 3750

[thorny zinc]

Hi

[formal totem]

no way only need 7k.

[mint rivet]

ehhh, mid

[echo radish]

Wiki has the correct numberz

[jolly kiln]

tomarrow my maestro will havebonuses enabled for all chars on all skills!

[thorny plaza]

So I only need 7 accuracy?

Seems wrong to me but okay

[jolly kiln]

He is a gimmic boss I believe

[thorny plaza]

I'll take a devs word for it lmao

Maybe he's more about health than accuracy

[jolly kiln]

Hes more about killing him asap so u dont gotta do his stupid tasks

[formal totem]

heeeeeeeeeeeee, i thought it would need 11k at least because common mobs need like 6k with increament

[jolly kiln]

lemme check the troll task list

[formal totem]

troll has some mechanic? o.O

[echo radish]

7k

[west garnet]

bought a wing pack that came with cards, got this lol

[jolly kiln]

Easy
annoying
luck
probably annoying
easy
luck
annoying
easy
easy
annoying

[woeful karma]

damn i want that

[jolly kiln]

~50% chance for annoying wooo

This makes me wanna reach 80m dmg b4 I do him

just to 1 tap

[long python]

do the task first

[west garnet]

had to use the cardifiers

[long python]

it's super annoying to do the "complete 20 troll tasks" task once you one hit him

[west garnet]

i want to do the tasks but not 1 hit him 😦

[jolly kiln]

Doesnt that mean just beat him 20 times? at that point

[long python]

or you can use the maestro item that makes you do one damage

[jolly kiln]

Theres an item that does that?

[formal totem]

this is wild

[long python]

wait no it makes your HP 1, it only reduces damage by 50%

[jolly kiln]

yea

50% dmg reduct but he multihits so yea

[jolly kiln]

I already do 25m ish

I just kinda havnt tried to push w4

[long python]

honestly rushing worlds is worth it just for all the insane boosts you get

[formal totem]

what level r u now?

[jolly kiln]

catching up makes me feel bad

so I just dont rush

[long python]

getting to world 6 gives you summoning which gives you like 10x damage from doing almost nothing

[jolly kiln]

also 172 on this char

[jolly kiln]

doesnt matter to me I play this game for the sense of progress

[formal totem]

dang still far away from that

[jolly kiln]

also being overwhelmed from new mechanics = not good

[long python]

Getting to w6 is only the start of progress

[woeful karma]

if i had that card i would do the same

[woeful karma]

i fear this
but thankfully

[formal totem]

prioritizing unlock feature at it's finest

[woeful karma]

i rarely have to feal with it and only deal with it for a week or two every once a while

[woeful karma]

Ooo nice your close to me

[wicked drum]

Which map are owlios in?

[woeful karma]

stump

[west garnet]

inn W1 tree

[woeful karma]

in the tree

[formal totem]

from slime map at right side you can find tree

[untold geyser]

There isn't anywhere to "farm" spices other then the egg/pet thing is there?

[jolly kiln]

Ive been progressing these things
stamps
samples for mining, chopping, catching, and fishing
alchemy bubbles
alchemy vials
alchemy cauldron strength
alchemy liquid regen(on the rare occasion I dont have mats)
orion
roo
trapping
construction
deathnote
killroy
Post office
trash island
shimmer island
the free weekly pet
guild(solo player guild its my own tho)
equinox(not much but Ive started it)
breeding
cooking
and lab on 4 chars who cant progress by those things themselves much

any more and im overwhelmed

Lemme finish orion atleast b4 I go to w5 lmao

[woeful karma]

im doing all that but these

[jolly kiln]

oh yea and arcade

and salts

[woeful karma]

arcade you can just collect once a day or two

[jolly kiln]

(rankup time!)

[woeful karma]

poggg

[woeful karma]

i am working torwads my next rankup foir these three

[jolly kiln]

14/cycle now!

[woeful karma]

which will do my next EQ thing

[jolly kiln]

oh yea and cogs

cant forget exp cogs is a slog

[white lintel]

seeing this challenge is kinda funny ngl

[jolly kiln]

im at 15 or so rn

[untold geyser]

When you look at the jewel on offer, want it but, have to recognize that you can't possibly get enough spices in time. 😭 (Unless I"m missing some source of them)

[white lintel]

you can see their schefule and plan ahead

[long python]

I just farmed gems to get excogia, made construction not so bad

[wicked drum]

Thanks guys. Also what does breedability do? I can't really figure that out

[untold geyser]

Where is this a thing? O.o

[jolly kiln]

that is well down the line of my todo list of things to get in gemshop(Im going based on tier list mostly rn)

[white lintel]

IT or the wiki

[jolly kiln]

tomarrow

[untold geyser]

Ah, I'll look on wiki and see what I can find, IT doesn't really work for me due tot he whole steam thing at the moment.

[woeful karma]

?

[white lintel]

I almost have that challenge complete on just my green salts

[formal totem]

what is this?

[woeful karma]

ah lmao

[white lintel]

And I remember thinking that 30 was gonna be a lot

[woeful karma]

nice

[white lintel]

When I first did it

[woeful karma]

i knew it would take me a month orso

when i saw it

[mint rivet]

each time I use this I gain 120k atoms

[white lintel]

Yea you’re missing a lot of refinery rate boosts

[mint rivet]

at that pace I will max a lot of atoms (lvl 20 for now)

[jolly kiln]

equinox

what do the #s mean?

I put threshold to 20

[woeful karma]

ooooo

[formal totem]

ah, need to farm mini boss

[woeful karma]

true

[cunning flume]

Is that each use, or each days worth of uses?

[mint rivet]

the #s?

[woeful karma]

upgrade/bubble thrashhold i think?

[mint rivet]

u talking to me?

[jolly kiln]

%s

[woeful karma]

sojmething liek that

[jolly kiln]

I clicked old page

[mint rivet]

its potency, how much effect from that bubble, that you are getting

[jolly kiln]

and it clicked

this why isnt this shown on the other page? on hover

[cunning flume]

Yeah

[mint rivet]

its each use of talent

[cunning flume]

That's actually amazing

[jolly kiln]

I have 6 things to upgrade in kazam(im going further than 20% on diamond chef but the rest ill just go for 20%)

[serene pecan]

what are the best pet combos for pushing spices?

[jolly kiln]

what is this

[serene pecan]

rope

[jolly kiln]

ok how do i get it?

[serene pecan]

smith

[jolly kiln]

lvl 60?

[serene pecan]

yes

[jolly kiln]

pain

thisll take a bit

[prime echo]

whats the fastest way to lvl up worship to 120?

[mint rivet]

ah time for 100 bosses again

[jolly kiln]

is this addative or multiplicative w/ other sources of % total damage

[wicked drum]

Is there any way to speed up how long traps take to collect? I'm currently doing the 20 hours traps but idk if that's the best way to do it

[jolly kiln]

choose a faster one if u want shinies

20hrs is probably the best tho for idling em if u got the rift bonus if ur not in w4 or further just remember to do it like a daily

only time you dont do 20hrs

the 5 day traps or the 20 mins for shinies

what do I do for the 500 in 5 mins if I kill them all b4 they respawn even once

yea they literally dont respawn fast enough for me 💀

[jolly kiln]

bean im asking does this multiply my current damage

or act like addative w/ the % total damage sources

like stamps

[mint rivet]

ik what ur asking, and idk

[jolly kiln]

it appears to be addative

it gives me ~5% dmg increase

I had to waste on of my few teleports on that 😦

[jolly kiln]

even less o nmy barb then

how is wormhole mob hp calculated?

[mint rivet]

its a multi, scales up extremely fast

[jolly kiln]

I see

genuinely rift one is harder than the other goals form e

till rift 6

350/500 rn

[mint rivet]

20mins of active bossing just gave me this

extremely unlucky on the gem part

[jolly kiln]

I barely beat it

um

apparently I can do 290m dmg active

geeze

what is the drop rate for rift tears?

oh its 1/10m pre droprate stuff according to a patchnote

[thorny zinc]

4 dr its enought tl get them

[jolly kiln]

im at 3.18

is that enough?

[thorny zinc]

I think you can prob get them

[jolly kiln]

how long did it take w/ 4

20mins 0 dropped

[thorny zinc]

Um 20 minutes max i think

[jolly kiln]

???

[thorny zinc]

I used es

[jolly kiln]

Was it dropped during wormhole?

then I need to level that skill up

it was 50 now 89

took out the damage % since thats not my problem

[thorny zinc]

Let me know if you got them

[mint rivet]

you can get all rift tears in time, and fast, with ES at 1.00x dr

[jolly kiln]

I just wanna get to t6 rn yknow make trapping alot easier

[slow flame]

like 5 hours later… zzz

[jolly kiln]

whats the goal for this one?

[radiant mica]

this stupid ass kangaroo rat sucks

[jolly kiln]

explain?

[radiant mica]

it sucks to play, im developing carpal tunnel playing it

[jolly kiln]

???

gamble for shiny?

[slow flame]

rift 12, need to kill 5000 skull enemies

[slow flame]

kangaroo rocks

bonuses for owl and kangaroo so worth

[jolly kiln]

your not supposed to be that active on roo

[radiant mica]

no im trying to get all my fish done, and theres no way to quickly assign the points

[jolly kiln]

shinies have diminishing returns

[jolly kiln]

ah that part

its not a race

I did like 5cps for like 2mins to complete that

[radiant mica]

yeah, but its like the most effiecent thing for me to do rn

[jolly kiln]

1 100 cap 1 4 250 cap ratio

so the 2dn and last one I dont upgrade

1st and 3rd I upgrade at a rate of 1/4th the 4th bonus

I just do the math first then click how mnay I need

[jolly kiln]

are you repeatedly resetting?

if so STOP they are permanent unlike orion

[radiant mica]

yeah

[mint rivet]

DB farming time again, I gotta get better

[radiant mica]

im doing the points constantly

[sage vortex]

Is there a afk build for BB all I see is active

[jolly kiln]

We need a warning on those resets goddamn

[jolly kiln]

oh the points upgrade

just wait till u can afford alot then hold m1

same w/ orion u can hold m1 on those

[radiant mica]

the point upgrades you cant

the normal ones you can

[mint rivet]

what build? gear? talents? cards?

[sage vortex]

Talents

[jolly kiln]

you shouldnt be resetting often on roo

if u are

you shot urself in the foot

losing quite a few points to use on upgrades

I want an ss of what you mean

genuinely im curious

[mint rivet]

this should be good enough

[radiant mica]

no i get what you're saying, but if i make my prices really good after waiting for a couple of seconds, i can blitz through a megafish in like... an hour

[tacit wharf]

Hi
Is there a pet guide???

[jolly kiln]

but if u do that you lose on reset points

[radiant mica]

yeah, but i can make those back

[jolly kiln]

roo just take those slow

for orion its fast and snappy its not a race

[jolly kiln]

I genuinely want a screenshot of your roo to understand

bc no you cant

[jolly kiln]

they are lost ofrever

those tries atleast are

[radiant mica]

tbh i dont care in the long run, i just care about right now

[jolly kiln]

you shouldve gotten atleast 10 in the blue and green by now

[radiant mica]

if i hit reset i still have 113

[jolly kiln]

oh that reset

[mint rivet]

how did I not see this sooner, idk, but its good

[jolly kiln]

I was talking about the megafish reset

[radiant mica]

i stil keep my roo points

[jolly kiln]

and fisheroo reset

[jolly kiln]

green fish reset is a respec

[radiant mica]

nowhat no

[jolly kiln]

thats it

[radiant mica]

im not talking about that

im trying to get to that point by activing

which is what im complaining about

roo isn't fun, and needs to be fixed to where you can just hold down the upgrade points thing

[jolly kiln]

just spam shiny fish once every 5 seconds till u get all 6 types get some upgrades

then just coast

[jolly kiln]

thatd be nice but its really not needed as a more of a one time thing

[radiant mica]

i know how to do the roo, i started it like an hour ago

i know what im doing

[jolly kiln]

oh your definitely rushing it then

if this is a major issue

[radiant mica]

YES THATS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYINIG

[jolly kiln]

yea thats a you problem

roo is not made to be rushed

[radiant mica]

ive been saying ive been rushing it the entire time

[jolly kiln]

if u wanna rush go play orion while u wait

[radiant mica]

my orion is where i have to wait a day to get anywhere

[jolly kiln]

which btw orion also becomes a waiting game at ~e26

[jolly kiln]

megafeather?

[radiant mica]

im very much aware

like 8 or 9

[jolly kiln]

not even fractal?

[radiant mica]

that is my fractal

[jolly kiln]

or is that fractal

oh ok so that should be like an hour for those

im on fractal 15 or so

this is like 1hr tops for the middle reset

thats with this

this is a day or 2 for me rn at 14

so orion being daily for u shouldnt be quite yet

it is hourly ish for u at that stage

[radiant mica]

dude i just said that because i dont really know what my orion is actually at, and i dont really care to check

because im not doing orion rn

[jolly kiln]

your really mean about your questions wording and your problem is while yes itd be nice also self induced

I yield

[random gust]

using the hunter ability to gather all the cirtters is it good to use or bad cause it reduces the amout of critters ?

[jolly kiln]

its ok

[radiant mica]

no i get im being an ass, its like 1:30 and im not in a really good mood rn

[jolly kiln]

once u get the trapper thingy

in construction the trapper drone swap to that

[random gust]

what?

[random gust]

okk

[jolly kiln]

collect all via this once it has bonus critters is nice

and w/ rift 6 u can idle it

[random gust]

oof i am still collecting mats to get my salts

btw should i always gather salts when they are full or can i gather them before ?

[jolly kiln]

gather before for non red

always gather at rank up for red

only gather at rank up for non red when you can afford w/o a salt deficit

aka using more htan you produce

[odd obsidian]

never auto refine red and green, basically

[jolly kiln]

yea +1 this

[odd obsidian]

green is as important to keep refining because synthesis cycles take 3x as long as refinery cycles

[jolly kiln]

killroy gives a damage multi?

[random gust]

red takes a whole lotta while to refine tho cause mines at 7 rn

[royal venture]

Auto refine 100% when?

[odd obsidian]

auto rank up 🤤

[royal venture]

It’ll get better in time

[odd obsidian]

(at rank 22+)

[jolly kiln]

thatd be nice

make it rift 1000 and people would still go for it

[random gust]

is there some way to refine faster or smth ?

[royal venture]

Lots of ways

[odd obsidian]

increase refinery speed from salt lick, stamps, etc.

[royal venture]

Breeding, sigils

[odd obsidian]

https://idleoninsight.com/?search=Refinery

[livid herald]

For 8th character I get a 2nd dk right?

[royal venture]

Omniphau for refinery procs

[odd obsidian]

omniphau is key

[royal venture]

2nd dk mandatory

Unless you decide to ignore construction for some very specific reasons

[jolly kiln]

specific reasons?

[royal venture]

I wouldn’t know, maybe you lost a loved one in a construction accident or sth

[random gust]

for 7th maestro works right ?

[odd obsidian]

no-construction locked idleoneer

[livid herald]

I hope I can get the choco chip that’s coming soon

[royal venture]

Yeah 7 is jman/mman/vman

[odd obsidian]

if you didnt already have one before yeah

[random gust]

whens the suitable time to get vman ?

[cedar fjord]

I just got to W3 and now my Upgrade Vault is missing. how do i get it back?

[jolly kiln]

for this it mentions rift

I assume I dont get the dmg bonus till I unlock that in rift

[royal venture]

When you can level him to the prereq level (was it 150?)

[odd obsidian]

its in your codex, bottom right of quick ref

its 150

[cedar fjord]

ahh kk thx

[odd obsidian]

essentially meaning wait until w5

[random gust]

i meant like worlds cause i saw it requires 1mil kill for each mob in world 1,2,3

[cedar fjord]

feels naked since it not on top left

[odd obsidian]

now its hidden away

[jolly kiln]

for these towers(w/ rollers highest lvl among them) what is the best way to get wave 50?

for the green souls

[odd obsidian]

the guide sheet has some good loadouts

[royal venture]

W5 is a good bet as vookarl said

[odd obsidian]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml#

[jolly kiln]

ty

[thorny zinc]

You should unlock at least party tower ngl it will help you

[jolly kiln]

apparently ice + roller works

[jolly kiln]

true itd help but im not that far yet

[odd obsidian]

ice + roller is a solid combo but party would really help

[jolly kiln]

Ill need to sample this one sec

[thorny zinc]

Fr? I even unlocked kraken and im way rushed than you

[jolly kiln]

I forgot about it specifically I forgot to sample w3 catching stuff

[thorny zinc]

[jolly kiln]

ill have it unlocked when I wake up tmrow

600/hr w/o trying

[thorny zinc]

I want to unlock poisonic faster

[hidden creek]

How am I meant to use the shovel in gaming, should I be clicking it when it's ready? Should I be letting it sit and build up several nuggets at a time? It feels like if I let it sit longer before clicking it I get bigger nuggets, but I'm not sure if that's placebo just because I'm seeing more nuggets happen at once.

[slow flame]

yehhh u just reminded me to fill my new 3d printer slots i just got with the w3 and w4 new resourxes

running so low on them rn

so many good upgrades that catch has too including a crit chance in alchemy

[thorny zinc]

Ngl after i unlock vman i should resample too

And focus on bubbles

[slow flame]

oml ive got so much ither stuff i need to be doing

[royal venture]

Click asap

[slow flame]

an hour later i went from 3k to 3.8k this is so mf boring

[royal venture]

Is this active killing challenge?

[jolly kiln]

beat 50

[royal venture]

Oh I saw it’s skull points

[royal venture]

Divine knight is the worst class for this challenge

SB would be way better

[jolly kiln]

this is not even that good for me rn

itll prob help w/ active exp grind later but thats what grind time bubble is for

[slow flame]

yeah but its skulls

actually

wait sb plunder mobs can spawn with skulls?

[royal venture]

Skulls are horrible on dk

[royal venture]

Not the big boys afaik but the normal respawns can

[slow flame]

oh shoot ok

[royal venture]

Dk stops skull spreading by killing all

[slow flame]

how does the skulls spawn, is it just a chance when they respawn?

[royal venture]

When you kill there’s a chance to upgrade skull and spread to 2

[slow flame]

omfg thank u so much

this is so much faster oml, my sb is my main char too this makes it so muxh easier, i just did it on dk cuz the last rift or so was based around him

[royal venture]

Switch to sb/bubo for skull rifts

[mint rivet]

I love how the dmg stacks up so high

[jolly kiln]

holy multihit

vman?

what char is that?

[mint rivet]

before vs after

[jolly kiln]

oh is that deathbringer

[jolly kiln]

He gets beeg multihit like maestro!

[mint rivet]

And my DB is still not great, i've seen dmg stacking make skyscrapers

[jolly kiln]

basedo n these #s it doesnt lower the dmg either

[mint rivet]

what?

[jolly kiln]

maestro

the multihit the 2nd and 3rd hits

are weaker than the first

[jolly kiln]

while all 5 or so hits here are the same damage range

[mint rivet]

its just so satisfying to watch (recording laggy)

[white lintel]

Got any more frames?

[mint rivet]

i play on good frames, recording doing me dirty

[jolly kiln]

no I need them to handle breeding arena fights

[sleek stone]

What pet to get through this

The same as guide?

[mint rivet]

woah reached double digit maxing

[digital seal]

whats the main way to increase talent library max levels?

im only at like 140-ish right now

[thorny plaza]

What's the easiest way to get the batteries so I can unlock the rift?

Only have one and have used 40 hours of afk candies lmao

[edgy leaf]

Am I lucky

[mint rivet]

sailing

[frozen swallow]

whats the best armour for me, im a lvl 137 bb

[stable crane]

Gents whats the strat for generating ladels? I saw something about afk for 2 mins - but get 0 so I think that is no longer a thing?

[mint rivet]

go full dementia

[frozen swallow]

okay thanks

[mint rivet]

don't do 2 min claims when trying to get ladles, just afk for hours

[mint rivet]

np

[frozen swallow]

wait before i can get dementia dont i need anvil 3?

[stable crane]

Ok thanks bud

[mint rivet]

np

[mint rivet]

if u can't get demenia, get amarok armor with a plat helmet, and stone it with w3 stones

[frozen swallow]

okay

[tame flame]

so I'm currently at rift 12 and the mission(?) is I need to collect skull, do i get skull even if i afk?

[mint rivet]

does this

scale off this?

does this

scale off this?

[dusty harness]

pretty sure it does

[stable crane]

Red is the '2 min' strat a thing for getting dna splices? Or I guess the general question is - for splicers - is it better to afk collect in short bursts or leave it for hours too? (i've i wanted to be sweaty)

[mint rivet]

yes it is

[mint rivet]

dna gained by splicing has diminishing returns, BEST way to gain DNA is to splice every 2min afk session

also splice in high density mob maps, like sticks, sand giants, mustaches, bloques

[stable crane]

Cool very clear thanks sir

[mint rivet]

np

[stable crane]

I'm doing it on shrooms for now cause I wanna get multikill up on them

[mint rivet]

also, I am not sure, but I believe beans give more than sticks, splicing wise

you can test it out yourself if you need w1 dna

[stable crane]

[junior bane]

Cant he just go amarock

[mint rivet]

as I told him after

[junior bane]

Uh imagine reading 😔

[white lintel]

R word

[junior bane]

Wowowowow

[frozen swallow]

whats the best way to get anvil 3

[junior bane]

How did u know 😢

[junior bane]

Wdym

[solemn tulip]

hi, what avg power of pets do you need for wave 200?

[junior bane]

The resources r ez its bloaches plat steak and fruitflies no

[mint rivet]

First triple digit!

amazing

[frozen swallow]

i have only anvil 2 and i need anvil 3 and im tryna know the best way to get the items for it

[dusty harness]

tbh with the vault i think 5-10k is enough

[solemn tulip]

:O

i cuda gone for it long ago then omg

[junior bane]

Why do u even need tab 3

[frozen swallow]

yeah but im a low lvl for fishing and catching

[junior bane]

How low lvl tho

[frozen swallow]

new armor

[junior bane]

Amarock is good enough till w6

Just put upgrade stones from the world shop on

[frozen swallow]

20 on fishing and 19 on catching

[limpid cypress]

about worshipping, do I need the charge amount to start active playing ?

[junior bane]

💀

[frozen swallow]

yea

[junior bane]

What world r u in?

[frozen swallow]

4

[limpid cypress]

I can't summon anything and I'm not sure why

[junior bane]

Bro

[odd obsidian]

tbf armour becomes pretty worthless

[junior bane]

The last parts seem kinda usefull

[dusty harness]

you mean to start the td minigame? if so then yes

[junior bane]

Cuz they give silly buffs

[odd obsidian]

the last parts but no new w6 pusher is getting kruk armor lol

[proper kiln]

Really?

[junior bane]

Supposedly

[proper kiln]

I mean acc is more important i think

[odd obsidian]

well you're mostly reliant on food for survivability

[dusty harness]

misc bonuses are the big reason why armors are still relevant

[odd obsidian]

food can't solve accuracy issues

[junior bane]

Cards can tho

[odd obsidian]

yea

[nimble saddle]

Is there a guide for how to level up your construction level much quicker? even with bubbles and DK buffs I've been stuck on golden cogs for multiple weeks now

[junior bane]

Just optimise for exp gain

[nimble saddle]

How so? ive already been throwing mostly all exp% cogs on the board

but its still like painstakingly slow

[junior bane]

U have only DKs down right?

[proper kiln]

How do i get better mining eff. I cant mine plat yet

[nimble saddle]

I didnt know that was an early game strat too, no I've been running everyone on the board til I get to ultimate cogs then I was gonna swap to everyone on cogs except the dks

[junior bane]

Better pick maybe

[proper kiln]

I mean i have gold

Before plat is gold so..

[junior bane]

Get plat then

[proper kiln]

Its not minijf

[junior bane]

Whats ur chance to mine?

[proper kiln]

Idk lol ill have to check

[junior bane]

Its in afk info when u try mine it

[proper kiln]

I do have a lil plat from colosseums

I have 0/per hour

Ik that much

[junior bane]

Huh

U have skilling preset on right

[proper kiln]

Right

[junior bane]

Im confused

[dusty harness]

alchemy and stamps

[junior bane]

What world r u in

[junior bane]

He has 0% tho

Like he has to he missing something else surely

[proper kiln]

36 lol

I dont mine alot

[junior bane]

Pretty sure thats higher than mine

[proper kiln]

No actually

[junior bane]

One of the people im using to mine plat is lvl 26

[spiral mango]

should i equip balance nad precision

[mossy spear]

Are you even using a pickaxe bro..

[junior bane]

He has a gold one

[mossy spear]

Upgrade stones?

[junior bane]

Prolly not

Tho neither do i and im fine

[mossy spear]

Upgrade stones are a massive difference tho

[junior bane]

Il do w4 ones in a bit then

[proper kiln]

Ah ok thanks

[proper kiln]

Ik that much 😭

[rough hedge]

Is crystal countdown bugged?

[mossy spear]

You used upgrade stones? Also, you have mining eff stamps right

[sleek stone]

Anything that helps with 2 bottom spice

Yeah

Vault make it easy