midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[jolly kiln]

I know its really weak

I got unlucky w/ 2 of them only giving +1 at most at my progression or literally impossible rn since no archer/mage lvl 30 fishing

another vault upgrade maxed

getting all upgrades to cost 1 green coin(what is it called?)

[sleek bane]

no idea who bothering to remember the coin names

lustre i think

[slender lichen]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Coins @jolly kiln

[sleek bane]

!fishing

[jolly kiln]

I still dont get why it says this

when by default it caps at triggering once since w2 first launched w/o getting that big bubble

[slender lichen]

i wish div had a minigame\

[jolly kiln]

in my hopes to make fishing less painful I got this

yes I have an unreasonable amount of plat ore(for w4 atleast) for this

[sleek bane]

i mean that seems pretty normal if u got a plat print

[jolly kiln]

my plat print is 8k/hr w/ lab

[sleek bane]

not too bad ig

[jolly kiln]

Now that this bonus is so high I could prob getl ike 10 or 12k w/ lab

that was when this bubble was lvl 13

fishing stats w/o the catch speed food(I just dont have it equiped rn since im not sampling)

forgot to apply a star talent heres the real #s

[sleek bane]

18 sec catch time

[jolly kiln]

its like 14 or 12 w/ boost food

this is w/o any boost foods bc he was on a combat build

[oak lynx]

Luster coins

[jolly kiln]

ah

[torpid acorn]

I dont wanna read i had stats class for the last hour did this get explained?

[sleek bane]

i dont think so

[long python]

What should I do with div now that I finally have bear? I had bad rng

[jolly kiln]

happy hour goes up to 20x if u have 20 tokens

on the top left

[sleek bane]

id go for nobi at least

but you could also just hole jail

[oak lynx]

Just remembered that poppy exists

[jolly kiln]

OOF

also why is that char lvl 1?

new char?

[oak lynx]

Did u read it's name?

[jolly kiln]

lmao

[sleek bane]

wait actually unless you have doot you should probably push to goat at least

[oak lynx]

Hope it explained lol

[jolly kiln]

still leveling it up could be useful if ur in w5 w/ the bear thingy and have that you can atleast get him printing something

[long python]

dootless

[oak lynx]

I'm in w6 and I'm not rly struggling with printing rn

[jolly kiln]

ah

[oak lynx]

I realized that w6 will take alot of time so I decided to do everything I was neglecting

[jolly kiln]

fair

[oak lynx]

Just got Orion to 15 feathers I think it's good

[jolly kiln]

15 fractal

or total

[oak lynx]

mhm

[jolly kiln]

so same as me then

Im going for 16/17 tho

drop rate

and all stat are nice

[oak lynx]

My Dr isn't rly that good

[jolly kiln]

drop rate is pretty good for rarer drops

[oak lynx]

Like 17x isn't the best I can get I just don't wna put in the effort

[jolly kiln]

you have 17x then yea that little from orion isnt a goal for u rn

Im nearing 3x

over 3x on my archers and mman(spare tab 2 points)

[oak lynx]

I don't wna grind bones for db

But it's inevitable

[jolly kiln]

does multikill per tier affect minibosses like baby yaga?

they seem to drop alot more than normal for me

[zenith hare]

no

DR does however

[chrome crag]

whats the team for wave 200 pet fight?

[jolly kiln]

oh

can u get 2 of a drop from drop rate if over 100% when multiplied by the base odds?

[zenith hare]

yes

[jolly kiln]

Im curious

[zenith hare]

glunko gives me 60 pendants per kill

[jolly kiln]

👀drop rate looks alot better to me now

and it was already good

another reason to not stop checking the owl daily

[keen parcel]

Power lvl time

[vernal void]

if im rushing w4, do i rush with just 1 char and leave the rest in lab or something?
or should i "rush" with all chars to farm mats on the way?

[narrow crow]

do we got any master cheff in here? i'm quite lost on the whole cooking stuff. like when to focus a new dish, which dish to focus on. should i farm laddles or not and when to use them 🥲

[oak lynx]

Rush with one and throw the rest in lab jail

[vernal void]

in that case, would you rush with SB, DK, or Maestro cos hes not 150 yet?

[oak lynx]

Try to get cabbage asap

[narrow crow]

i have that at level 15 so far, but i've been gone a year and remember absolutly nothing about anyting

[oak lynx]

I pushed with bb cus he's solid in w4,but in w5 push with dk

[oak lynx]

U should watch guides ig

[narrow crow]

i have, but i dont see any mentioning the questions i had

[oak lynx]

Huh

[vernal void]

if im planning to use candies, do i take em outta lab or still keep em in lab

[jolly kiln]

cabbage my beloved

[frozen yacht]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[jolly kiln]

if you dont do this in cooking skill your either wayy later game when it falls off a tad or havnt unlocked cabbage

[oak lynx]

Alr so you should get the crocks thingy and two chef rings too, which I suppose you already have,then get ur bb in the kitchen to get ladles and make sure to have his talents maxed and you should work on apocalypse chow if you haven't already,then you should get every single dish that you have to lvl 11 for the diamond chef bubble and lvl that up too ,then you should try unlocking new dishes and also make sure that you upgrade ur cooking stations

[oak lynx]

I started eating cabbage because of idleon

[alpine forge]

Help please

[atomic fable]

If you have a Gilded stamp, are you forced to use them when you want to upgrade max level?

[narrow crow]

thanks. is there a time where ladles are best used, or just use them as we get?

[indigo stratus]

best 9th character for 1 of each including maestro and a second DK

[oak lynx]

Use them as you get them,not using them will just hold back ur progress

[narrow crow]

Get that and you wont have to worry about fighting power

[keen parcel]

On es 2min afk claim for alot off catching exp

[narrow crow]

how about upgrading the different kitchens. just spread them out?

[alpine forge]

@narrow crow it's at 7

9 sry

[oak lynx]

Explain what u mean by spread them out

[narrow crow]

like upgrading the different kitchens evenly, or should i focus the first kitching for a lot of recipe speed

[alpine forge]

I need help with what pets to use in them last 2 slots

[oak lynx]

Well it won't matter since all of em use different spices to upgrade,but if you want to use on station for new recipes then you should focus ur spice gains for that station's upgrades @narrow crow

[narrow crow]

ofc. that makes sence. thanks a lot

just wanna be done with this Cooking crap xD

[oak lynx]

Yw

[oak lynx]

Every idleoner's dream lol

[narrow crow]

i kinda rushed the game, i'm at W6, but sometimes i wonder at what cost, lol.

i'm so far behind in every aspect, its stressing me big time with what to focus on

[slender lichen]

tons of time candies and lots of unrefined skills

[narrow crow]

no consumables used. i'm a hoarder

[slender lichen]

honestly i probably would have thought the same.... if it wasnt for the fact that idleon takes so long to get through worlds if you are playing casually

[atomic fable]

I can seem to start getting 20 checkouts every 2 days

is that fast enough to start doing max book on key upgrades? (I don't have the w3 achievement yet and only at 161 max)

[slender lichen]

yk the time required for checkouts increases per checkout you have right?

[atomic fable]

Yes

I'm aware of that

From 0 to 20, it's 1.5 days for me right now

[narrow crow]

god damn. another thing i have yet to attend. god damn books

[inland nexus]

Any early method to get balloons? I only need one to push for my maestro today.

[oak lynx]

Same lol

[narrow crow]

its so stupid because those extra talent points levels are huge gains and i know it...

[inland nexus]

Early tutorial w6 is crazy

(totally agree)

[atomic fable]

I have 2 options: doing checkouts 1 at a time or using 20 for a max book (I have 20 right now)

I don't have the 1k checkouts achievement yet

[oak lynx]

Fr

[pastel heart]

level up bubble, mini boss, random events, post office, alchemy, giant mob

[narrow crow]

my max is like 138

[oak lynx]

Tutorial is the hardest part in the game

[inland nexus]

Ohh right mini bosses, thanks.

[oak lynx]

Mins is 125😭

Y'all help how to pass this part

[true hamlet]

idk

[jolly kiln]

click the funny looking mushrooms

your char should walk up to them and attack them

[oak lynx]

They are too cute to be killed

They r small and weak,they need to be protected

[quick bane]

i always struggled with the tutorial too dw

the game gets much simpler from there

[jolly kiln]

they arnt that weak

they killed me a few times when I got to w4

[oak lynx]

Skill issue

[jolly kiln]

your in the tutorial

[oak lynx]

It's so hard I can't pass it

[jolly kiln]

wdym skill issue

[grim onyx]

Why is bm best for tower defense?

[quick bane]

just keep trying, youll get it soon, we all did

[oak lynx]

Tutorial is hard

[pastel heart]

root talent

[grim onyx]

ooooh that, thanks!

[proper rapids]

In kitchen the meal cook speed is the sum of every single kitchen, but the new recipe speed is only per kitchen ?

[jolly kiln]

Im past that

[velvet anchor]

Idleon is not for you then

[zenith hare]

tired

[versed wing]

My accuracy has been horrendous since beginning world 2 and it’s massively slowing down any/all progress towards w5, and consistently hearing from other that it’s not meant to be. wtf am I missing? Have done my alchemy, stamps, statues, even have shrines in the current map I’m pushing and up-to-date(ish) gold weapons and Amarok armor.

Best case scenario is I’m overlevelled with a 30% chance to hit

[cold wraith]

almost early w7 prep

[jolly kiln]

why does it still say this is unobtainable in IE?

[cold wraith]

cus you cant get it

[jolly kiln]

its from trash tho

[cold wraith]

then get it idk

[proper rapids]

Tbh what made a big difference for me was a combination of accuracy stamps, leveling Shaqracy to around lvl 60, and then getting some accuracy stats on character, which a bunch of them came from getting my maestro into a vman and getting 200+ stats for free on everyone

[strange flare]

Acc stats stones and cards are usually overlooked

+flurbo shop

[proper rapids]

Ah yeah I also got 20µ accuracy in flurbo shop, got a 25% acc brown mushroom card and sometimes used the 15% acc card set

[strange flare]

Idk how people have acc issues now that vault and so many more acc sources exist

[proper rapids]

When I was at the end of W4 I was kinda struggling with accuracy and after spending a few days in labs to finally unlock stuff my archer jumped to around 2mil accuracy just like that

So it became a non issue for now

[jolly kiln]

Roo made acc so easy tbh if u do that you shouldnt have acc issues once u reach like mid w3

[strange flare]

Which is when acc issues started before

[jolly kiln]

yea but w/o roo they still start there if u ignore acc from vault, stamps and shaq

[proper rapids]

What's roo ?

Ah ye the fisherman

[jolly kiln]

w2 "secret"

its in vault if u reached the kangaroo thingy

[viral vapor]

I didn't do roo, but also you have a hard time getting alchemy going at the time. Some of the stamps require quests, which you might have skipped 😅

The eyeball prayer is also useful

[proper rapids]

Yeah true it gives me like 95% extra accuracy for only a couple day of clicking

[jolly kiln]

Roo let me ignore shaqracy entirely lmao

Still got shaq up tho

[viral vapor]

I think Vault 2 also came with some extra accuracy vs me trudging through shortly after vault 1 happened.

[jolly kiln]

vault 2 gave more money %

[junior bane]

Upgrade vault

[cold wraith]

wow i just cleared wave 121 goblin td so quickly

[viral vapor]

Drip drip dr ip, Go go secret kangaroo, vial overtune would also help a smidge

[versed wing]

Even my upgrade vault is going better than most at this level I think as I’ve spent a fair bit on the game for packs, currently level 167 on there for accuracy

[viral vapor]

Given my current refinery, should I enable auto refine on everything but redox until it ranks up? (dioxide is @ r3)

[junior bane]

U put lvl in ur accuracy talent?

[true hamlet]

Yeah

If you want you could off blue for a few hours

Just get that buffer

[viral vapor]

Mmmk, my next red rank up is in 3d days so it probably works out

[versed wing]

Yeah yeah, currently blood berserker with fully maxed str and wisdom, I don’t think I have any other accuracy talents

[true hamlet]

Shaquracy bubble

[viral vapor]

Also just wis bubble

[true hamlet]

If you need, you can use cards

[junior bane]

I have barely lvled mine and i have more than enough

Vault gives sooooo much

[true hamlet]

idk how accuracy problems arise now

Maybe like dungeons?

[junior bane]

Prolly forgot something

[junior bane]

I havent done mine lol

[viral vapor]

Newbies will forget something. There's a lot and you're practically catapulted into w4... but it's around mid w3 I found myself having problems.

[junior bane]

Without vault?

[viral vapor]

With vault 1.

[junior bane]

Is it worth doing outside of happy hour

[low arrow]

Also never put auto refine just let them reach rank up but no rank,you still generates the respurces and when you fix them you can rank

[junior bane]

Did u try learn much?

Or more like casual

[viral vapor]

Yes, I'm fairly good at games and this isn't my first rodeo.

[true hamlet]

I had to do a few hundred runs that weren't even boosted

[junior bane]

Is it fine to do in a group of idiots

[true hamlet]

Not recommended but I didn't want to waste equinox bar

[junior bane]

Or not worth it and have somone carry?

[true hamlet]

I mean, it's doable

[junior bane]

How much worse?

[true hamlet]

idk, my cards are mostly 4 star (for w1 dungeon) and it kinda feels the same to me, just a little slower

[junior bane]

My only issue with dungeons is lag 😔

[hasty yoke]

First thing to look at is the talents, there you got the one you print with, you gotta max it with star points, then there is Devine knight printing talent based on how many kills you have in the orb
Second is the salt, you must check up to the salt eaters thing in w3 and upgrade a bonus about printing (Don't worry it's cheap)
Then check the arcade shop if it have printing bonus, in case it does upgrade it asap
With that being done you should put a plan of how to use your printer
I benefit from it by printing what the salt producer (redox ,..ect) needs, such as copper, spore caps, golden fishes and so on

There are many other ways to increase the efficiency of your printer, one of which is the 🗿 artifact

[noble moth]

my catching is lacking on my vman; my exp per hour was like this
mining: 3m/hr
choppin: 13m/hr
fishing: 5m/hr but on
catching is 1m/hr...tf

[strange flare]

Print salts then stuff you need for progression (crafting, vials, bubbles)

[noble moth]

any way to improve easy catching exp?

[strange flare]

Just need better catch speed and catching eff + best tool you can craft. Catching always sucks

[noble moth]

i see...thats the only one to make my vman rank 1 on everything

[spiral mango]

tf is roo

[strange flare]

It sucks but it’s worth, can use candy and focus on afk stats too

[strange flare]

W2 clicker

[hasty yoke]

I guess he's gone

[spiral mango]

kangaroo

[full beacon]

if I use eagle eye to collect, is the shiny chance based on the beastmaster, or will it be separate per character

[white path]

based on whoever collects

[noble moth]

candied catching
made void catcher b4 and got like a 80% increase in catching exp tho

[hard marlin]

yo, maybe someone can help me with a drop problem. i try to get the recip from the slugmas. 1 in 50m is the chance to drop. i am now just on my sorcerer at about 2200m kills...

[hard galleon]

Multikill does does not count for it. So your kills are inflated

[dense pine]

most of your kills are from multikill which cant drop rare recipes

[median swan]

ok im a little confused about labs

[median swan]

when should i have someone in labs vs when should i have them pushing/farming/etc

[white lintel]

also kill per kill like nobisect and killer brightside

[dense pine]

and the active 2x tallent...fish.

[white lintel]

fish?

[dense pine]

i forget those dont actually count for mk

[dense pine]

goldfish vial

[white lintel]

ah right

also new vault thing that boosts active kpk

[royal nexus]

how many Giant Mobs is it worth getting per week?

[sleek pollen]

you a achiev farmer? do it asap
else ignore it

[dense pine]

i also said that.

[white lintel]

Where

[dense pine]

.

the fish and the 1st part were seperate

[white lintel]

Unfortunately hun that’s not a talent

[dense pine]

ehh its basically the same thing, instead of points you use money

bobjoepickel is just a glorified tallent point

[white lintel]

Where did bobjoepickle come from

[dense pine]

you use money to buy him.

and he is also used for vials.

so is his own sort of tallent point

[white path]

[white lintel]

Then everything is a talent point

[dense pine]

yes

[white lintel]

???

[dense pine]

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/no-cat-gif-7563893349645696924

[white path]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-ducks-confused-surprised-what-gif-1845535727828628932

[dense pine]

sigh whatever, i tried.

[white lintel]

Omg duck!

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-garrys-mod-garrys-mod-physics-fast-intense-gif-26322619

[dense pine]

ow.

[stoic quiver]

what damage should i have before attempting w3 boss?

[white lintel]

You’ll be fine with like any dmg

[bronze moth]

100k

[stoic quiver]

word

[white lintel]

Bosses are pushovers

[bronze moth]

true

[white lintel]

They got power crept

[stoic quiver]

fair nuff

yeah it worked i killed em

any reccs on how to get to farm rams quickly?

or should i just focus on leveling for now

[quiet grail]

Are you telling me I could have used this Worship button the entire time

I was doing it manually before 😭

I'm so mad rn

[cursive wren]

Probably a noob question because I didn't read enough things along the way but, why can't I use the teleport button to go to stages on world 4 ?

[oak lynx]

Farming bones👍

[oak lynx]

Got ur daily teleports used up?

[tacit vale]

i have 1 of each elite class a journy man and a second DK what is my 9th and 10th choice?

[quiet grail]

Is Death Bringer a World 6 thing?

[sleek pollen]

dont do rams until mid w4 maybe

[oak lynx]

Ye

[stoic quiver]

word

[cursive wren]

No I have like 730 teleports left.

[jolly kiln]

I think ill stop here for stamp lvls for now

[white lintel]

You could wait til w5 even

[jolly kiln]

atleast w/o new stamps

[white lintel]

They don’t do much

[stoic quiver]

i thought rams good for xp

have i been misled?

[jolly kiln]

used to be

[quiet grail]

I'm 1k below that, I'm having trouble finding the stamps

[jolly kiln]

world?

[white lintel]

For xp maybe, but pushing will be better

[cursive wren]

Like the button is there, I have teleports available to use. But when I click teleport it doesn't actually take me to the level.

[jolly kiln]

most of mine are from 1-3

[quiet grail]

4

[quiet grail]

You have to do the quest I think

[white lintel]

Double click the yellow nodes

[jolly kiln]

want me to show the stamps I got?

[quiet grail]

like main one the turnip guy on top left

[jolly kiln]

since im in the same world

Im still missing some stamps too

[oak lynx]

Do you have the maps unlocked

[jolly kiln]

my itnernet is being funky itll take a minute

[jolly kiln]

wtf discord why is it so low res for me

[quiet grail]

Yeah I have way less and lower level

[jolly kiln]

I just got alot

Im missing the one from copper ore lmao

the + wis

[sleek pollen]

ye

[jolly kiln]

hover over them most of them show where they are from

[quiet grail]

I just need to get someone farming wood and I'll get a good bit

[jolly kiln]

the ones from trash dont show a location for some reason

[quiet grail]

Wait really

[jolly kiln]

yea

[quiet grail]

awesome

[jolly kiln]

some say a drop table instead

so just choose whatever gives best odds for that drop table that you can get reasonable/hr(use wiki for this)

[dusty harness]

if its IT im pretty sure clicking on a stamp redirects you to its wiki page

[jolly kiln]

this is IE but yea IT does this

[quiet grail]

What's this "Fishpaste97: 'Accidental' Exploit"

[jolly kiln]

ah that one is a quest

[royal nexus]

does this counter reset if i kill a different Giant Monster?

[jolly kiln]

w2 fisher dude quest fishing area 2

[quiet grail]

Ohhh

I forgot about that guy

[jolly kiln]

npcname: quest name

this is one of those "unobtainable" ones

its from trash island youll get it eventually

Im upping my trash % rn to 200% b4 I go for those

I got the fish one b4 I realized I should get my trash % up

I think I cant even go much further in stamp levels anyways

[blazing nexus]

how is that unobtainable?

[jolly kiln]

Its bc they dont have the trash area labeled in IE

so it defaulted to unobtainable

[blazing nexus]

ohhh that makes sense

[jolly kiln]

Its probably not worth fixing

since you need trash anyways for a talent book youll see those alot

ill be honest this is not worth my time rn(I dont have gilded or anything like that to make this even semi helpful)

this one is assuming I have collider yet i dont

the other stamps are red

just realized I didnt do Crystalswine

eh I cant even upgrade that stamp yet(bunny not yet unlocked)

hermes isnt that worth it either

[cursive wren]

@oak lynx I'm sorry what maps unlocked? I'm fairly new to the game only start about 1 week ago. Really frustrated I can't figure out why I can't teleport in world 4 though.

[white lintel]

Did you finish the tutorial quest?

[cursive wren]

What tutorial quest?

[white lintel]

Ah

[cursive wren]

There are 2 NPCs in world 4 with quests.

[white lintel]

The lazy carrot lookin dude

[cursive wren]

One is the guy who teaches me some new mechancis for breeding etc

I'm up to the point I have to wait for the pet to get spices.

Thats really what is preventing teleports?

[white lintel]

You’ll also notice a missing portal in the w4 town that would be where you’d start pushing

Do the quest and he’ll let you into w4

[cursive wren]

Huh?

I'm already in world 4, am I not?

Is this not world 4 ??

[jolly kiln]

Its how w4 works

[white lintel]

Click the portal

[cursive wren]

Clicking the portal takes me to the 1st stage in world 4 with monsters......

It has nothing to do with me not being able to teleport to stages I've already unlocked in world 4.

Nevermind. I am a idiot.

[white lintel]

I wasn’t sure if you’d get dialogue for trying to levae or something

[cursive wren]

And I failed to follow your simple instructions.

[jolly kiln]

completing the quest the ginseng gives is what enables teleports I believe

[white lintel]

ok my phones lagging a lot so anything that sends is from it catching up

[cursive wren]

Yes, you guys are correct. Its really idiotic that it doesn't explain any of this to the player. Especially when the first 3 worlds had absolutely zero restrctions on teleporting as long as you unlocked the stage and had teleports you could use it.

[jolly kiln]

same here it took a min to send some of my stuff

[white lintel]

idk if w5 has the same system but w6 does

[oak lynx]

Like the maps in world 4

[rose orbit]

what should mid/end game 3d print levels look like?

[white lintel]

mid game and end game are on like 1000 levels difference

[white path]

I can show u my early game prints

[white lintel]

mid game is probably at least 1 B, late game I at least have a theoretical 500B print, I just dont wanna lose my artifact boost, and endgame you can see for yourself on leaderboard

[inland nexus]

Those two things should vary wildly. I would say endgame begins at 4bil oak log print while mid game, where I could be classified as by some people it's 7.5k

Mid game and endgame should not even be put in the same sentence.

[white lintel]

youre funny

[white path]

theres an endgamer with a 1T log sample

[white lintel]

HourZero my goat

[inland nexus]

Not saying that's what it is. That's the most common sentiment for some reason.

[candid summit]

oops, overshot it a bit 😅
of course its cool to have a higher bonus but wow is that unsatisfying

[white lintel]

just curious, where are you seeing that sentiment?

[rose orbit]

soo what would 100m logs be considered?

[white lintel]

early-mid maybe

[inland nexus]

Idk, mid-early I guess.

[candid summit]

ooh i got the red salt to catch up to the input of the orange salt!

[white lintel]

sand giant kph is always so great, its a breath of fresh air during dnote farming

[candid summit]

yeah im sure ill be happy in the long run but every monster before it has platinum skull so im kinda pissed at the same time lol

[white lintel]

it makes snelbies easier which usually have crap kph

[candid summit]

hmm lemme check mine

idk if this is relatively good or bad

[inland nexus]

Plenty from hanging around here. I can notice when I'm talking to a really good player. Most don't happen to be that. Those most people talk about very different regulations on what constitutes new player and endgame player.

I don't even consider myself out of the tutorial yet tbh.

[candid summit]

is this about the players that are very serious about efficiency and following the meta? thats a sentiment i see often here

[ruby loom]

Ok. I've hit a point where I don't know what to be focusing right now. I have the third tier (w4 subclasses) 3 warrior, 2arch,2mage,1maestro. I have no clue what to focus outside of advancing hunter. Just getting everythings multikill out of the way? or leveling up in w4? skilling for gear?

[candid summit]

i appreciate help sometimes but other times i like doing it how i wanna do it yknow?

[white lintel]

once you hit w6 is when you finish tutorial imo

[inland nexus]

More about the perception of the levels of progression in the game.

[hollow osprey]

fishing prints on bb or dk or does it not matter?

[candid summit]

ah i see

[hard galleon]

When you finish maping W6 lol XD

[candid summit]

i notice its a lot better on uhh whichever one has fishing as part of their special skill
the barbarian line i think it is?

[white lintel]

thats fair, if youre just smart about how you play and emphazise that you just wanna enjoy your time, as long as you do so without making any bad mistakes or neglect, a sensible person would respect that

[white lintel]

nah, thats mid game territory

[hard galleon]

OMG can i finnally say im mid game lol XD

[inland nexus]

Unironically that is where I consider the tutorial to end. Enemies actually start getting tougher much quicker there.

Ironically I wouldn't consider myself finished with the tutorial until I get an eclipse skull on samurai guardians.

[hollow osprey]

dont you say bubo to bubonic

[hard galleon]

I still consider myself early end game lol

[quiet atlas]

does anyone know how to do lava skull rift... like an actual explanation instead of the generic kill skull

[exotic void]

so what's the best way to get shiny critters? I have 1hr royal boxes for everythign and I feel like I only get a few hundred each claim

[white lintel]

when you kill a skulled enemy it has a chance to spread. when a matching skull spreads to its same tier it upgrades.

[candid summit]

bad mistakes like not realizing i should max out attack asap lol
someone walked me through better talent point allocation like focusing on the axe and sword and ignoring the shield, and my damage skyrocketed! it was very helpful, im thankful for that

[hollow osprey]

if its not bb, whats the abbreviation for blood berserker

[quiet atlas]

thank you. what does it mean when theres multiple skulls?

[candid summit]

i dont remember class names very well, i mean the red guy with fishing and cooking as his talent stuff

[white lintel]

possibly bubo, but if anyone uses bb to say bubo then you should assault them violently

[inland nexus]

W. Good guy. The 4th talent in the first page sucks.

[white lintel]

thats blood berzerker

[hollow osprey]

i guess my question remains then, fishing prints on bb or dk or does it not matter?

[white lintel]

bb

[inland nexus]

I agree.

[hollow osprey]

ty

[exotic void]

bb is blood berserker

[white lintel]

to get 2 lava skulls means to just have 2 enemies on the map that are lava skull tier

[candid summit]

at some point i gotta add the class acronyms to my notes page

[white lintel]

ecclipses are so free late w6, you get them just for pushing

[candid summit]

my memory is so ass i have a .txt to keep track of what my goals are in the game since it takes several hours or days lmfao

[white lintel]

I have a doc as well

[white path]

do u have all eclipses yet?

[bronze moth]

halfway to 1m

[white lintel]

had them for a while yea

like since hole launch ish

[hollow osprey]

oh my god my fishing samples are awful, i just want bloaches for shaquracy

[candid summit]

havent been using it much lately but still
usually ill log in in the morning and stare at my guys like "...why are you mining iron again? and did i leave you in the sheepie map for drops or a constellation orrr..."

[white path]

[white lintel]

theres easier ways to get acc than shaquracy nowadays

[white lintel]

is that yours??

[white path]

u know me, i'm a slacker

[white lintel]

john, thats bad

[bronze moth]

dw they'll get higher (mine is so much worse considering where I'm at)

[inland nexus]

That's a good idea.

BB-blood berserker
DK-donkey kong
Bubo-bubonix conjurer
ES-elemental sorcerer
SB-siege breaker
BM-beast master.

I suggest you do it now. It's better to so it now than later.

[candid summit]

bless, i was just gonna ask if someone could remind me so i can write it down lol!

[hollow osprey]

the thing is, i think like alchemy is the only really thing that remains

[white lintel]

DB-Dat Boi

[hollow osprey]

except if i like card farmed for another acc card

[bronze moth]

yummy sample

[white lintel]

what world u in?

[hollow osprey]

w4 second last map to w5

just trying to get there asap considering i have doot

[bronze moth]

luckky

[hollow osprey]

yeah haha

[white lintel]

armarok or dementia armor with secondary stat boosted stones, aka if pushing with DK stone with a mage for the wis stat?

[bronze moth]

if I had doot automatic 6x samples

[white lintel]

pocket divinity

[hollow osprey]

did that, still have 13.4k acc even if sand castle equipped

[bronze moth]

yeah i have pocket div but I'm putting it on goharut rn

[white lintel]

omni, goat, harriep?

[inland nexus]

Dude. I'm early w4 and I got more.

[white lintel]

vault, owl, roo?

[inland nexus]

(not, but you get my point)

[bronze moth]

yeah that's why I'm saying I'm worse lol

[worn raptor]

you get 130/h
he get 130*6/h xd

[hollow osprey]

think im doing fine on owl and roo. obv havent maxxed vault but acc is at lvl 215

[white lintel]

keep doing Roo, and you should be able to max the acc buff from vault by now

stable Jenius will give you more base wis, also the talent

[hollow osprey]

that gets hella expensive, most money ive had so far was like 2 of the greend coin

[bronze moth]

he might be talking about raw prints in which case he's right lol

[inland nexus]

poteito potato. The fact we are even comparable is an insult to world progression.

[white lintel]

early game pushing has been a disaster for balancing, faster pushing is fine, but a lot of people pull up to w6 with no foundation and find out their acc is an absolute mess

[white lintel]

stamps?

[bronze moth]

me 😭

well my acc is like 80% absolute mess

[worn raptor]

im mid w5, i make less than 20 bloach/h

[bronze moth]

I'm working on it

[white lintel]

actually just send me your IT @hollow osprey

itll be easier that way

[candid summit]

lowkey wanna just wipe my cogs and start over, is that dumb? its a big mess and kinda frustrating

[hollow osprey]

alr

[inland nexus]

True. You can literally brute force to w6 in a week, but what's the point? What advantage do you get?

[bronze moth]

before I resampled with upgraded tools I literally, QUITE LITERALLY had 11 an hr 😭

[bronze moth]

i rushed w5 in like 4 days because of valentines package

[white lintel]

not a week, I think the fastest ive seen rn is 2 weeks and another one was 20 days.

[inland nexus]

Stop turning this into a competition 😭

[inland nexus]

Yeah, it was kinda hyperboly, but the sentiment still holds true.

[abstract plinth]

What 8th Char should I get? I have one of each already and a Maestro

[white lintel]

i almost did that the other day, but I didnt and im glad i didnt

[white lintel]

DK

[inland nexus]

2DK for construction

[candid summit]

yeah... i could at least wait till i have all the sqaures unlocked so i can scrap all the flaggy gears

[bronze moth]

fastest i've ever seen somebody get is w4 in like 3 days (or w3 in 3 days)

[restive oak]

Is that in w3?

[bronze moth]

it was that one guy who was a w1 noob on dec 31st and a few days after he literally was in w4

[white lintel]

the funny thing is that it used to take months to push from w1-6, and saying a week would be insane, but now, thats almost probable

[bronze moth]

i remember seeing him in #idleon-gen-chat

[strange flare]

Harder balancing an account I guess? Make sense due to the large amount of things unlocked that require each other for progression breakpoints (mostly w4)

[inland nexus]

I haven't seen anyone do it personally, but a couple of people have told me that w6 in a week is possible.

[candid summit]

ooh wait someone is lvl40! i can make red cogs now pog

[toxic roost]

Mood

[bronze moth]

true, on my old account (before the vault and stuff) it took me 4 months till i got w4 while on my new account i got to w3 in a week or 2

[stray drift]

What lineup do I need for this and what combat power?

[toxic roost]

I feel that lol

[hollow osprey]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=fwsdafsag
think it should be public now

[bronze moth]

w6 cooked squad

[toxic roost]

I got to w3 and w4 on the same day or 2 💀💀

I honestly kinda just rushed a lot and everything is a suuuuper mess rn

[inland nexus]

The consequences of the vault update on the idle on society.

[restive oak]

8.1591528e+47 is a really large number

[toxic roost]

Real I love vault

[white lintel]

oh absolutely, theres almost no backtracking done anymore when you reach a new world. and theres not enough time for somethings like refienery to solidify so a lot of people can get salt locked which is not fun

[bronze moth]

privat what world are you in?

[hollow osprey]

pushing w4 with one char, 2nd to last map

[inland nexus]

I can't imagine having to learn BOTH alchemy, construction, trapping, worship, fishing and catching at once.

[candid summit]

?

[strange flare]

Absolutely, new players seeing the nullo soft lock hurt big time

[white lintel]

thats not how you use the word both

[candid summit]

wait

[toxic roost]

Add to that cooking breeding lab and gaming lmfao I am extremly confused

[restive oak]

Look up “40!”

[primal fern]

isnt this skill, 1st screenshot, the the 2nd screenshot? if so it aint working

[candid summit]

40! lmfao

[bronze moth]

try to get a lot more stamps, i feel like it should be at like 1k by now (it should be ez)

@hollow osprey

[hollow osprey]

alright

[toxic roost]

But honestly I'm thinking of back tracking and focusing on the earlier stuff rn

[inland nexus]

I was so shellshocked by the statement I lost all my basic grammer.

[hollow osprey]

tbh ive been neglecting stamps and post office

[candid summit]

i love math, trust me i know all about factorials lol (lighthearted teasing i swear)

[hollow osprey]

post office seems like the biggest chore ever

[bronze moth]

you're farther in orion than I am

[candid summit]

its why my name is arcsin and written so weird

[inland nexus]

It first seems like that, but once you start doing it it takes like 2 minutes tops.

[bronze moth]

get these first few bubbles at least 30

[hollow osprey]

yeah im fixing my prints to get the mats for these

[toxic roost]

Bubbles are smth that scares me 😭😭

[white lintel]

@hollow osprey you’ll want to turn your Barb into a squire

[bronze moth]

real

[hollow osprey]

sure, was going to do that anyways i think

[white lintel]

Pushing with BB I presume?

[hollow osprey]

yep

[bronze moth]

@hollow osprey DO NOT WORK ON SIGILS, they are practically useless at the point you're at

[restive oak]

How do I increase my kills per hour

[inland nexus]

You wanna get as far as you can here.

[hollow osprey]

actually fair

[bronze moth]

keep them in cauldrons, keep extra into liquid cauldrons or like another cauldron that you're not working on

[toxic roost]

Ok I have a question so I'm lvling my characters rn since they're like they're half of my Squires lvl 😭😭
What lvl should I stop at? And what resources to focus

[white lintel]

Okay, well you need to do the thing with the stones I asked about and you said you had done.
Recraft a set of amarok armor, and use w4 stones on a mage to upgrade them.
Also get serrated Rex rings and more/better tools and upgrade those with mage and w4 stones for more wis

[inland nexus]

Use some of your goldan balls right now we got two S tier upgrade options. Golden ball gain and drop rat.

[hollow osprey]

so, i actually did the thing and stones for my armor, but for some reason it didnt seem to work quite right?

[bronze moth]

if you're in w6 then like 230-270 is fine (if they can do first w6 mob, then def put them on w6 map)

[hollow osprey]

i applied the stones using my elemental sorc and it didnt all go onto wis

[bronze moth]

there isn't really any resources to focus on just do what you think is most important

[toxic roost]

I'm w4 lol

[white lintel]

Only works for w4 stones

[bronze moth]

oops

[white lintel]

W4+ really

[bronze moth]

umm then i guess like 110-120 lvl

[hollow osprey]

yeah, i did it with w4 stones

[toxic roost]

I just unlocked it today I have a lvl 100 squire and the rest are like lvl 50 lol

[white lintel]

Show me

[bronze moth]

i feel you

[toxic roost]

Lmfao

[deft stone]

If I play alot should I turn Unending Energy prayer on?

[bronze moth]

my sb was in w6 map others were grinding as far as they could at w5

[burnt vortex]

bro what the hell

it showed me messages from like 90 years ago

[bronze moth]

is it the one with max 10hr afk?

[toxic roost]

I'll just get average like lvl 80 on the rest and start focusing on resources for cauldron ig 😭

[deft stone]

yeah

[hollow osprey]

no idea why they are still spread like this
also i did the math on what the defence is supposed to be and its for some reason lower than it should

[bronze moth]

do not under any circumstances put that on

[white lintel]

Sorry, I mean the stones you used

[bronze moth]

10hr max afk time is NOT worth it

[hollow osprey]

the ones out of the shop

[white lintel]

Have you been buying daily?

[hollow osprey]

yep

[deft stone]

Ok, even if max AFK I go is like 4 hrs?

[bronze moth]

yup

[white lintel]

Wonderful, make a new set of armor and try again

[hollow osprey]

awesome, alright

[white lintel]

Could use bubo this time if you want

[inland nexus]

Select something for your bowman to print.

[hollow osprey]

also ive been trying to get the serrated recipe but ive been getting unlucky

[inland nexus]

Pretty sure those are old prints too.

[hollow osprey]

im fixing my prints rn, theyre old

[white lintel]

Been farming baba yaga daily?

[inland nexus]

alright, good.

[hollow osprey]

beast master should be printing mob drops, right?

same goes for maestro?

[white lintel]

Refinery mats

[bronze moth]

thank god i got serrated rex rings before baba became a daily boss

[hollow osprey]

you can print those?

[white lintel]

Can still colo farm

[white lintel]

Some of them

[bronze moth]

true

[hollow osprey]

uh, may i ask how?

[toxic roost]

Ywa I got it from colo lmfao

It was pretty lucky

[hollow osprey]

oh refinery mats im stupid

[white lintel]

You can print, copper, spores, fiber logs, giga horns, sand, fish, flies, sheepie floofs, etc

[hollow osprey]

i thought you meant refinery salts

whoops

[white lintel]

You’re good

Guys

[hollow osprey]

also thanks a lot for helping me, appreciate it

[white lintel]

this recipe is so stupid

[cold wraith]

why

[white lintel]

yea of course man

[bronze moth]

50 friggin dense water is insane

[white lintel]

50 dense water

[cold wraith]

so

do you need to craft 10 of them or smth

[bronze moth]

FOR W2 RECIPE

[cold wraith]

ah

[white lintel]

fuckin expenseive

[inland nexus]

Your meals could use some work certainly. Try going for corn. And do all the ones up to it.

[white lintel]

I need 2 for the dumb scoli ranking

[cold wraith]

i mean its not a lot but i buy a few daily whenever i remember

[hollow osprey]

wait so what should i print on beast master? giga horns, logs, green caps and flies?

[white lintel]

I forgor

[white lintel]

do monster mats on BM

[cold wraith]

i am indeed almost rated early w7 prep

[hollow osprey]

alright 👍

on maestro i assume skills then?

[cold wraith]

slowly making it out as well

[astral lava]

+1 thing added to my daily routine..
-#

[bronze moth]

real

[jolly kiln]

like 1-2 hrs till next rank!

[cold wraith]

to be completely honest i havent bought them in weeks

[white lintel]

look at this bottleneck

[cold wraith]

i just got some when doing cc

[cold wraith]

heh

[jolly kiln]

I swear this game doesnt want me to get gud at construction

[white lintel]

also monster mats, his skilling prints are ass

[white lintel]

imagine having w7 prep as ratings

[bronze moth]

😭

[inland nexus]

Is that idleOn efficency.

[cold wraith]

ok buddy

[jolly kiln]

This is the 12th time in 20 tries

[bronze moth]

ie autoreview

super useful tool

[white lintel]

IE sucks, use IT

[jolly kiln]

and of those 8 only 5 gave one w/ more than I already had

[jolly kiln]

I only use IE for stamps(the stamps ui is cleaner) and copying json for autoreview

[bronze moth]

won't say it sucks but it has lots more stuff

[raw raptor]

what are the benifits of getting higher waves in td other than more souls per worship

[white lintel]

..IE has lots more stuff?

[cold wraith]

more xp, prayers, equinox dream, tome

[bronze moth]

wait

[astral lava]

IE helps u to know what characters bought anvil points

[jolly kiln]

it has more stuff

but IE is simpler to read

[cold wraith]

doesnt matter when theyre all bought out babyyy

[white lintel]

IE does not have more stuff

[bronze moth]

late w4 in early w6 😭

[astral lava]

For people who didn't

Better than going on every character check

IE helped me today with statues problem

[cold wraith]

you had a statue problem?

[white lintel]

I think IT is a lot more navigatable

[cold wraith]

navigable?

[white lintel]

Whatever the word is

[hollow osprey]

what determiens what the crystal mobs are on crystal island? cause what the hell, im doing like no damage

[cold wraith]

your highest map

[white lintel]

Highest map

[cold wraith]

!crystal

[candid scarab]

The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.

[hollow osprey]

oh. that makes sense.

[astral lava]

Idk how but I just invested all my statues like 2 days ago, on a character, had to check statue man on all characters for it to cloud save on all characters somehow

[cold wraith]

oh thats weird

even with golden statues?

[astral lava]

Ye

[white lintel]

I can believe that if you had freshly gilded statue man

[jolly kiln]

at what levle does this get truly good at?

[cold wraith]

when you have more diamond plates

[astral lava]

Idk how, but when I randomly clicked statue man today, it looked like as if I just invested statues

[jolly kiln]

im about to have 8 total

[cold wraith]

1.06^8

[white lintel]

dumb ass achievement

[astral lava]

When it's not lv 3

[cold wraith]

coincidentally i just did that earlier today

[jolly kiln]

well duh but I was asking like a goal lvl

[astral lava]

It scales slow anyway

[white lintel]

Gonna be 2 more days till I can get the 2nd w2 trophy

[astral lava]

Just focus on meals

[cold wraith]

cus of the water?

[hollow osprey]

also what does e sorc print, logs?

[cold wraith]

ill do it when i get around to needing it

thank the heavens my dry streak is over

[astral lava]

Didn't finish sailing yet??

[white lintel]

You went for steak as your first sov??

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-laughing-gif-13031147940704744720

[cold wraith]

that was the first fuckin sov ive had in 4 days

[jolly kiln]

um I maxed these out b4 I got another one to buy

[white lintel]

Only 4 days?

[jolly kiln]

Ill be able to actually progress it eventually so its not that bad

I need better wood samples but this is attainable technically

[astral lava]

Bro don't know I had to grind for 2 weeks to get my last sov

[cold wraith]

bad arti chance

[astral lava]

Skissue

[white lintel]

Fun fact, you can work on arti chance

[astral lava]

With monuments

[astral lava]

Arctis, review my account!

[white lintel]

Sure

[astral lava]

IE or IT?

[white lintel]

If you give me the wrong one I’m not reviewing it

[astral lava]

..?

[white lintel]

IT

[cold wraith]

its IT

[abstract plinth]

There's no way to have characters in lab without them being 'in the lab' right?

[cold wraith]

w5 divinity

[astral lava]

And hole in w5

[white lintel]

ME ME ME ME ME

[astral lava]

Oh, ye, u need Arctis

[cold wraith]

honestly i think my account is in a pretty good place cus i worked on things people mentioned prior

[abstract plinth]

Ahh damn, I'm basically at the start of w4

[astral lava]

I don't do anything people mention as prio

[white lintel]

Dm me your IT @astral lava

[astral lava]

Alr

[cold wraith]

some said to work on equipment so i did 💀

[white lintel]

Then why ask for a review?

[astral lava]

I... Wanna know if I am doing alr

[cold wraith]

he wants praise and congratulations

[white lintel]

Mmk

[astral lava]

I very well know im getting roasted

Cuz if alchemy- but why not try

[cold wraith]

cant relate

[astral lava]

Is Dadoums friends with everyone?

[hollow osprey]

alr i think prints r looking fine now, last barb has no prints because i literally have no tool on him

[cold wraith]

copper pick is literally free

[astral lava]

Ah..
-# was that me??

[cold wraith]

i think it was elle and xiepo

[hollow osprey]

too lazy to do it rn

[cold wraith]

you can craft from storage if youve done it before

[deft stone]

Are yellow cogs for the 40 yellow achievement the Decent Cogs?

[hollow osprey]

still too lazy

[cold wraith]

up to you

[astral lava]

Yes

[hollow osprey]

only ~16 hours till the final map that is needed for w4, idk if i have a key if not ill just do colloseum lol

[raw inlet]

If u killed the mushroom miniboss then you probably have key

[hollow osprey]

also can i please get shiny scorpies idleon? have not unlocked trapper drone yet lmao

[raw inlet]

Are you focusing player exp on cogs

[hollow osprey]

to be honest, no

[bronze moth]

i wish I had that kph on w4 😭

[hollow osprey]

whats your kph?

[jolly kiln]

question why are there still unobtainable stamps just sitting there

[bronze moth]

my kph on w4 is probably abt 10k 20k rn

but when I was in w4 i only averaged 2k

[hollow osprey]

oh damn

[jolly kiln]

yours kph is higher yet your accuracy is lower than mine by alot wtf

[hollow osprey]

shrug, been neglecting stamps/alchemy/post office lmao

biting me in the ass rn

[west scarab]

how do you place a trap?

[hollow osprey]

walk to the area where a critter is located, you stand next to it and then at the top left you can place your trap

[west scarab]

I have no idea how to find where critters are located

[bronze moth]

!wiki

[candid scarab]

Here is the link to the Legends of Idleon wiki. It contains incredibly valuable info that will help you progress faster and more efficiently! https://idleon.wiki/

[bronze moth]

it contains all the critter locations

[brave cove]

makes me think my progression was actually fucked up cus i had multikill on these guys

[oak lynx]

Got it once I realized it existed lol

[quiet grail]

How do you get "Beginner Best Class" star talent?

[shut hull]

Get Jman

[quiet grail]

Journey Man?

I have Maestro

[brave cove]

you can't get that talent right now

it's bugged, was supposed to be fixed this update but it didn't

[quiet grail]

lmao

very cool

[ebon kestrel]

For the Equinox Dream where you use 100,000 ladles... should I spend those on cherries or marshmallow meal?

[shut hull]

Marshmallow is better than cherry

[ebon kestrel]

Thanks.

[jolly kiln]

If u had multikill on those you broke the game in some way for how fast u got there

I cant even multikill them(I multi kill the mob b4 em tho)

w/ a good foundation for my stage

[ashen iron]

is there a excel file on what to focus on 4th tab

[jolly kiln]

kama did u get 100k kills on all mobs or something w/ barb?

[brave cove]

no i think it's just the fact that i've spent 100 dollars on the game so far

[jolly kiln]

ah

yea that explains it, im f2p

so it just takes abit longer, wait 100 already?

[ebon kestrel]

Easy to spend that much. Most of the packs are 20 bucks-ish.

[brave cove]

well this is on my bb without the premium stuff

[brave cove]

the packs are like 20 bucks each

i've probably spent a little less than 100 but it's close to that amount by now

[white lintel]

I think I’m at 155 rn

[jolly kiln]

its still alot for how short time youve been playing

you couldve gotten

[white lintel]

Some people have lots of disposable income

[brave cove]

the bonuses seem preetty good

[jolly kiln]

like 3 copies of outer wilds w/ dlc during its sale

[brave cove]

i have the game from my friend's family share lmao i don't need to buy it

[jolly kiln]

family share is the goat on steam

[ebon kestrel]

You wind up getting the wallet open pretty quick when shit's not too expensive. ._.

[jolly kiln]

Its how i played pokernight at the inventory

a game you just cant buy

[jolly kiln]

I dont

I like to save my money for important things like not starving

[brave cove]

i'd say true lmao, i see these packs and the bonuses and i'm like 20 dollars? i can afford that

[shut hull]

And Idlemancer right?

[brave cove]

huge recipe drop

[ebon kestrel]

"Double your damage for 20 bucks." <_< Hmmm... okay.

[jolly kiln]

if its a paid game I might get it but if its f2p I wont p2p

[white lintel]

I had a friend not eat for a day or two to order something online, it was mildly concerning

[brave cove]

nvm i don't even have tab 4 yet

[ebon kestrel]

Done that plenty lol.

[jolly kiln]

yea I cant do this

[white lintel]

I can’t either

[brave cove]

2 recipes????

[jolly kiln]

only thing im possibly willing to do it for
another game by the dude who made outer wilds

[brave cove]

wait and the storage chest as well w5 is goated

[jolly kiln]

I prob wont need to tho due to my saving habbits of just not buying stuff I dont very strongly care for or need

[opaque quail]

hi guys can anyone think of a mob/boss u can only do 1 dmg to in certain conditions for the qyest (fairly odd damage)

[brave cove]

td

you will always do 1 damage

[ebon kestrel]

Yeah, spawn worship waves.

Then smack anything as your player.

[slow flame]

make sure u leave after 5hits tho

[opaque quail]

AH CLEVER!!!

?

[slow flame]

i think it bugged out for me when i tried to do it past 5

[opaque quail]

oh

[slow flame]

but i did the quest a while ago, like i think it goes past 5 or something and starts at 0 maybe? idk something weird happens tho

[opaque quail]

II completed it

[midnight bison]

how is the maximum exp a cog can roll calculated

[white lintel]

Did you check the wiki?

[jolly kiln]

maximum odds so that I specifically roll a 0%er I get alot of these

[midnight bison]

idk didnt find it there

but also didnt look too hard

[white lintel]

its literally on IT

[jolly kiln]

you get me

[midnight bison]

nah u gotta throw in a 20%er

[jolly kiln]

20%?

my max is like 11%(yellow cogs)

[jolly kiln]

better luck than I get w/ these tbh

That whole pag and the next page and the next 1 would all be 0s b4 even a single ok one

[midnight bison]

yeah

[jolly kiln]

ok being

[midnight bison]

well

[jolly kiln]

anything above 7%(so 50% of exp cogs Iget rn)

[midnight bison]

pretty sure its like max const level determins how high ur cogs roll

[jolly kiln]

pain

yoo a new stamp

also maestro top skiller now on all but 1 skill!

[midnight bison]

worship or trapping

[jolly kiln]

worship

20 levels 💀

nvm its less bad than I thought

[midnight bison]

thats not bad

just use food and transfusion

[jolly kiln]

transfusion?

[midnight bison]

this feller

[jolly kiln]

right

aint that addative?

[midnight bison]

exp is exp man

but iirc i think it is additive

[jolly kiln]

true

[random gust]

Guys is pushing world 4 with maestro a good decision?

[white path]

never push with maestro

[random gust]

I got like 8k accuracy on that thing somehow

[jolly kiln]

got wave 20 on the ice area!

[white path]

when I did it everyone said I was wrong Arctis

[random gust]

So its possible?

[jolly kiln]

nvm Im not beating this

it out regens me 😦

[minor needle]

For worship, I have a wizard with the skill for getting charge of other people. Is that a pretty good way of idly using up charge every day or something?

[jolly kiln]

problem is maestro needs to out level him

[minor needle]

I... have a maestro, though I have leveled him some I haven't really gotten into the proper usage of such

[bronze moth]

it's possible, just don't do it
(the reason he has such high accuracy is because LUK is his main and accuracy stat)

[minor needle]

came back to the game from a couple year break and trying to relearn some basics and making sure I do all my daily stuff

[bronze moth]

but usually your main pusher out does your mman

like my pusher has 525k accuracy, while my mman only has 50k

[minor needle]

Why does maestro need to out level him?

[bronze moth]

right and left hand talents

[harsh nebula]

What’s mman lol

[jolly kiln]

do you not have maestro yet?

[bronze moth]

maestro-man

[harsh nebula]

Oh alr lol

[minor needle]

I do. But as I said I just got back a couple year break and don't remember much

[bronze moth]

btw i got vman 2 days ago

[jolly kiln]

this is why

[bronze moth]

he is SUCH A BOOST to my acc istg

[harsh nebula]

I don’t like maestro transfusion ngl

[harsh nebula]

I’m too lazy to push w6 rn lol

[minor needle]

Hmmm I guess that is pretty strong. But that means it has to somehow be higher than everyone else for all the skills?

[bronze moth]

i got to 121m max dmg and almost half a million accuracy on my pusher

[jolly kiln]

first gstack

[bronze moth]

I'm stuck rn because I'm at woodlins 😭

[jolly kiln]

yeap

itll happen eventually

just takes a while

[random gust]

So push with ?

[harsh nebula]

I have 1M accuracy and 250m max dmg lol

[harsh nebula]

Sb does so much dmg for no reason at all 😭🙏

[minor needle]

how important is it to focus on that now? Or is it easier later with more buffs or bonuses and such? I just got into w5 although I feel my stats should let me push through it fairly well

[white lintel]

The reason is speedna

[jolly kiln]

focus it while not skilling ur other chars till its fixed

[harsh nebula]

Well that’s a W

[jolly kiln]

use samples for resources

[bronze moth]

dk and es are valid choices for w4-5 and bubo start to become important once you level them enough to get them to be OP but that usually happens like late w6 idk

[bronze moth]

fr like seeing his attacks are so satisfying

[white lintel]

I wouldn’t active push with SB

[bronze moth]

he had more acc than my dk for a few days

[bronze moth]

lemme remove that rq

[harsh nebula]

I’m already doing sb, my dk is just in the background doing refinery or mining, sometimes pushing when I want to lol

[minor needle]

Currently since I just got to w5, everyone is on divinity... but that makes sense. Is it really faster to have maestro out skill every other skiller, instead of having a character each leveling those skills? And should my maestro use his worship charges manually but then just lazily use wizard for rest?

[bronze moth]

i'm pushing with dk because all my other chars have like w4-5 armor

[white lintel]

W6 doesn’t really have any active pushers, mostly done afk

[bronze moth]

by that i mean amarok

because amarok is W

[white lintel]

Amarok is such a carry

[jolly kiln]

oh I should say this

only skills w1-3

[bronze moth]

problem is that since i had amarok, i neglected skilling a bunch

[jolly kiln]

so w4 and w5 skills its not an issue

[bronze moth]

i just unlocked void ore like 2 weeks ago

[minor needle]

Does it not work on w4+ skills?

[white lintel]

Aren’t you in w6?

[bronze moth]

yea

[white lintel]

Dude

[bronze moth]

got to w6 like a week or 2 ago

[minor needle]

surprised it doesn't say that. But that's very good to know

[bronze moth]

i'm focusing on getting my acc up to shape

[jolly kiln]

it was added when w3 was the last world I believe

[bronze moth]

i'm late w4 early w6 rn on autorev

[minor needle]

Yeah, just didn't realize it didn't work forward too. Hmm. much to learn lol

[bronze moth]

dw my samples are above 1k on almost all

[white lintel]

Your just made your case like 1000x worse

[echo radish]

that's pretty good for w1

[jolly kiln]

auto review is telling me to level this is it worth it to add it to the nblb pool?

[slow flame]

[jolly kiln]

wtf is this cursed emote

[bronze moth]

my samples are bad I'm working on it (i mean it's not 1k samples, like most are at 10k and above)

[white lintel]

If auto review says to do it then do it

[jolly kiln]

got it

[slow flame]

its pregnant grumblo

thats how im feeling right now

[white lintel]

Mpreg grumblo

[echo radish]

ur pfp is peak

[slow flame]

ur peak

[bronze moth]

hello kitty had enough of life

[white lintel]

That’s what I would expect from someone pushing w4

[echo radish]

this is why we're friends fr fr

[hidden violet]

Have you guys ever missed a stamp level up from sacred pack? I saw the NBLB proc for all the bubbles today but it looks like none of the stamps leveled

[bronze moth]

😭

i might resample soon if theres a good ballot bonus

[slow flame]

mm nop, maybe overlaped?

i get like 7 icons popping up every day i login

i miss half of them most the time

[bronze moth]

my royal sampler is leved up a bit higher now so i might get a lot better samples

[white lintel]

10k prints with royal sampler in w6 is diabolical

[jolly kiln]

that is

[bronze moth]

i'm in w6 cooked squad what do you expect 😭

i'm working on it though

[white lintel]

Idk if that’s recoverable man

[jolly kiln]

you mean the rush to w6 and hit a brick wall club?

[bronze moth]

yes

[bronze moth]

wdymmmm 😭

[jolly kiln]

It is recoverable

its just weaker than mine in w4

[echo radish]

i need to know ur thoughts on the omega-alpha meta

[slow flame]

i was kinda in the same boat, i pushed w6 so fast but i havent mined anything over void yet, amrock carried plus candies and events

[bronze moth]

i seriously am cooked

goddamn

[slow flame]

but just slowly make sure u go back and slowly start somewhere

[white lintel]

I’m not sure what you’re referring to, all I can think of is that one anthropomorphic wolf movie

[jolly kiln]

my maestro is gonna just grind mats for skills for leveling my lowest lvl alch bubbles for autoreview at this point

[bronze moth]

now i wanna reset my account 😭

[jolly kiln]

bc I might as well

[echo radish]

ah well uh nvm then

[white lintel]

No no, inform me