midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[white lintel]

I cant give an answer as theres almost no toggleable prowess bonuses

the star sign is only 2% and I have like 900 from the meal

ill try with a higher eff character

hold up

[indigo stratus]

Came across this from a 3-year-old reddit discussion:

"It's definitely capped. 2.0x or not I can't personally confirm, but that's what everyone says the cap is so I just go with it.

For example, lab prowess won't go any lower than 7.25k for 2x & 23.1k for 3x. I tested by further leveling up my leek & equipping the prowess star sign (doubled). No change."

[umbral crystal]

how do i go about farming the statues to unlock obsidian?

[oak walrus]

If it is capped I hope future hole or something ups the cap

[indigo stratus]

You mean Onyx?

[umbral crystal]

yeah that thing

[brave cove]

crystal farming with dk

full strat in pins

[indigo stratus]

Use DK, level up Orb of Remembrance, and boost your Crystal Spawn & Drop Rates

[brave cove]

none of this matters if you don't have choccy chip btw

which comes on rotation in a month

[umbral crystal]

k

[white lintel]

this is with and without the star sign that gives 2% prowess, which will be approx 7% for me
@bleak crest @indigo stratus

[indigo stratus]

Times 10
Amen

[mossy tapir]

why are there so much sources giving vip membership when you actually get all 5 skills pretty fast and 95% of the membership you get gives nothing?

[white lintel]

you know what this is bugged as shit, it keeps changing when I alt tab

[oak walrus]

Lava do be like that

[indigo stratus]

Probably because 2 more have been in development, hence placeholder spaces

[white path]

wasn't there like a cap to prowess

[oak walrus]

Atleast on bubble

[white lintel]

I keep hearing about one but its not on wiki

[white lintel]

buble caps at 2.5

[oak walrus]

Was it not 2 for bubble even tho it goes higher?

[mint rivet]

IT HAS been DONE!

the great upgrade

[dense pine]

wait

have i been misreading that bubble for months now?

i thought it added flat prowess, not a multiplier 💀

im a bit silly

[white lintel]

reading is hard

[dense pine]

good point

[mint rivet]

before

after (look at tools)

[white lintel]

GS when?

[mint rivet]

now next step is sampling, but no more time today

[mint rivet]

i don't have the late map mob mats

[tender ocean]

caps out on 2 from every source combined for a skill

[cold wraith]

@mint rivet ykw just cus you did that everyones tools are going to godshard

[mint rivet]

wdym?

[cold wraith]

all of my characters tools

[mint rivet]

Also I gained these from level ups

[indigo stratus]

That's what I had always heard.

What I'm really curious about is if it's possible to reach the cap without ever leveling Prowesessary

[cold wraith]

i have void on everyone and its going straight to godshard

[tender ocean]

yes

[mint rivet]

damn what a ribbon waste

[tender ocean]

but until that point you need the prowess for skilling stuff and would rather not wait for the meal

[indigo stratus]

Apparently not; it appears to me that Leek + Ribbon makes Prowesessary obsolete

[mint rivet]

4 from 200

[tender ocean]

it is a complete waste but my minimum ribbon lvl is 8 now

[round forum]

I need help with catching

[indigo stratus]

So that translates to 13.74x Prowess multiplier, far surpassing the cap?

And what Ribbon multiplier is that?

[round forum]

[tender ocean]

1.82x

[indigo stratus]

So, it appears to me that even without Ribbons, Leek alone can get Prowess past cap

[tender ocean]

easily, but its useless , you cap out prowess super early

[thick lantern]

#player-suggestions message

[full beacon]

this one won't reset if you get giant kills of another mob in between right? it's just saying it won't count progress toward the latter ones until you finish the early ones 5 kills?

[white lintel]

my mining eff keeps rising as Im mining

wtf is going on

wait a minite, I wonder

[tender ocean]

you are mining copper?

[astral lava]

Waffle!

Sup

[cold wraith]

wsp

[proper rapids]

Can't you use balloons on breeding ?

[indigo stratus]

I started over with this account a little over 2 weeks ago, and a big part of what I wanted to do differently was to see how many Alchemy bubbles I can leave at lvl 1, with no significant long-term hindrances.

So to me, it can also be looked at as Prowesessary, in the long term, is useless, because of how easy it is to reach the cap

[fierce junco]

What should i do before leaving w3?

[white lintel]

yes

[white path]

is it gonna be ur "main" account u play on or r u trying to see how far u can push alchemy on a new account?

[grim delta]

Is ES elemental sorcerer and SB siege braker?

[white lintel]

my storage is at 1050

[tender ocean]

yeah but prowess bubble can also be leveled up super easy for total bubble level, if you do a lvl 1 bubble challenge then keep it lvl 1 i guess but up until the meal you wont have another source besides starsign and Post office

[indigo stratus]

This is my new main, I abandoned the original.

RIP scutaria

[tender ocean]

Pow10 copper gives effi

[white lintel]

1050 storage

[molten vapor]

i should keep maxing the arm with that build speed or focus another thing for now?

[white lintel]

well 1650now

[cold wraith]

@astral lava

[astral lava]

Want to SS all?

[tender ocean]

yeah you get effi along the way not only when hitting the exact next prowess

[molten vapor]

20 days

[cold wraith]

its just a placeholder for before candying but we do indeed have the same amt of lab lvls

[white path]

yes

[visual star]

why are suddenly most my characters not on lab? i have dooter

[mint rivet]

today I gained 3k construction exp bonus % and changed from random to meta setup, did stamps (1.5k lvl), upgraded each tool from dreadlo/lustre to marbiglass, did cooking, used 750 eggs and reorganised and took care of breeding (3-10x improvement), active'd DB a few hours, did 100 bosses, gained hundreds of skilling lvls, etc.

[astral lava]

Hehehe

[tender ocean]

it counts what you have in inv

[mint rivet]

Most productive day in idleon this year so far, BY FAR. All this made me exhausted,

Goodnight everyone!

[grim delta]

Thx

[astral lava]

Gn

[mint rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-goodnight-tired-good-night-good-night-nite-tired-cat-gif-13368863666895978726

[dense pine]

lmfao

[astral lava]

Maybe not divinity lv 2?

[long python]

If someone bought $50,000 worth of gems to get 10m, would the gems greenstack

[astral lava]

Ofc

[white lintel]

I have not reached a new pow 10 tho, does it still give eff as youre making your way to a pow 10

[stable crane]

Guys where is the 'blue tee' recipe from? Wiki says 'unobtainable'

[dense pine]

arent bought gems automatically claimed?

[white path]

btw the po box is its own thing, doesn't contribute to the 2x prowess cap

[tender ocean]

thats what i just said, yes

[dense pine]

yes the wiki just told you

[visual star]

no it was all good awhile ago, just saw now that they got disconnect somehow..

[astral lava]

Ur doot got tired

[tender ocean]

it does contribute into the same pool but for every skill individually

[white lintel]

just wanted to make sure I understood what you said, thanks

[cold wraith]

not sure if i rly want to afk for hours to get 1.8B catching xp/hr or candy 160m xp/hr

[stable crane]

Lol fair enough. When the post-office requests one is it an auto skip then

[cold wraith]

i think im js going to candy

[dense pine]

yea ever since lava changed world 1 its not obtainable ig

[visual star]

aint no way HAHA

[astral lava]

Lol, ye it's hard, can easily surpass ur Vman

[hexed mural]

Hey, guys! I can't apply cooking upgrades, any idea why? I have pets up to grassland 4-5th zone

[cold wraith]

nah my vman has a lot more skilll lvls than the req for godshard

[dense pine]

you need to get further spices

later tables require later spices

[cold wraith]

yea ts is going to take hundreds of hours

[hexed mural]

aww ok, thanks Ashley! I can upgrade my first table indeed 🙂

[dense pine]

any time

[silver nest]

In frosty firefight are kraken cosplayers supposed to push enemies towards the end of the map instead of stalling them?

Is that an intended mechanic?

[midnight bison]

is there like a calculator for how high my cogs can roll

exp wise

[dense pine]

are they teleporting ahead?

[kind fossil]

i finally got the first tome category unlocked!!!!

[silver nest]

yeah straight to the end

[dense pine]

thats just one of the enemy types, when they take damage they teleport a few pixels forward

[silver nest]

Ok I wasn't sure

[indigo stratus]

There are display bugs where enemies advance toward totems & other parts of the map without actually being there. Their displayed positions eventually correct to where they actually are.

And, purple monsters move a few pixels forward per hit.

if you don't have Voidinator, they persist

Where is the spice battle setups

[dense pine]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/193tGCv_nJpgleOzQ2jkO9KEpSh8JcOZLdjDolD9Z0FI/htmlview

[indigo stratus]

U need to beat the stage in order to unlock the spice to upgrade

Then it shows the needed spice for that upgrade

[versed flicker]

where do i check the w4 merit shop order?

[white path]

!merit4

[dense pine]

purple specifically

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[astral lava]

Welcome to tome!

[versed flicker]

tyvm

[silver nest]

that makes more sense. I have been slacking on getting void since I was low on nullo salts.

[indigo stratus]

I meant for the battles

[dense pine]

theres both

[indigo stratus]

My dumbass dont see that

[kind fossil]

thanks
at least i know what i should be doing (upgrading stamps more)

[dense pine]

on the very left lol

[dense pine]

no, fuck stamps

[long python]

just use IT to tell you which stamps you can upgrade

[white lintel]

Do your stamps

[dense pine]

i will not

i lvld my refinery stamp like 30 times today and it left me broke, life sucks

[white lintel]

They’re good for you

[kind fossil]

ohhhh idleon toolbox right

[dense pine]

I DONT WANT TO

[white path]

I too ignore stamps

[dense pine]

good

[long python]

yeah, tells you which stamps you have enough mats for and which character can hold enough mats

[long python]

Does IE even have a greestack checkbox for stamps tho

[white lintel]

IE doesn’t have anything

[dense pine]

IE is trying its best...it added vault.

im pretty sure it still doesnt have hole tho 😭

[white lintel]

Or gaming or some w6 stuff

[white path]

also added grimoire

[dense pine]

oh wow yea, it has the bare minimum for gaming lol

thank god ive been an IT enjoyer my entire life

[white path]

it has the nugget range but no # of nuggets

[finite spear]

Bro i have 53 percent and i didn't have a multitool stamp

[dense pine]

im just lazy

ive been telling myself id do it for like the last week

maybe next week

i already did like 1.5k lvls a few days back

[cold wraith]

oh my goodness leveling skills is so boring

[dense pine]

munch down on that candy

[cold wraith]

yea im glad i have 10k+ hrs

im using like 60 hrs per character with boost foods

[zenith hare]

candy go brrr

[cold wraith]

yea other than eclipse im not rly sure what else to spend candy on

[dense pine]

https://tenor.com/view/feed-the-void-black-cat-snack-hungry-cat-hungry-gif-306965068353833327

[finite spear]

Your next week thing become next month

[dense pine]

hoping for 6k stamp lvls by 2027

[cold wraith]

hopefuly thats sarcasm

[dense pine]

might be pushing it tho

[dense pine]

you right, 2028

[finite spear]

Fr u need to get the 80 percent -100 percent minimum

[dense pine]

in a few years

[cold wraith]

3 chars down 6 to go

[indigo stratus]

Oh yea

Stamps… i have acc lvl 5k and havent upgraded stamps since w4…

[bleak crest]

You can kill other giant mobs inbetween any of the 25 individual kills over all 5 maps. Just need to follow the map order for mobs to count, it never resets

[full beacon]

sweet, that makes it a lot more manageable, if not easier

don't have to keep thinking aboiut toggling it on and off depending on what map I'm on lol

[indigo stratus]

Is 3.6k stamp lvl gud?

[dense pine]

yes

too high even

(its not)

if you have 5k totall lvl then youre really far behind lol

[cold wraith]

what are you at

[indigo stratus]

I didint play for like a year i quit like 2 weeks after w5 was released

[dense pine]

5.6k

[cold wraith]

oh

[indigo stratus]

W6 not 5

Stamps are pretty easy tho

U just spam elemental sorcerer

[stable crane]

Hm newbie question for being in w4 - but if the afk screen says '100% survivability' does that mean I am absolutely good to afk as long as I need? (food doesn't run out at some point?)

[dense pine]

food can run out

but if you get 100% surv without food then yea

afk however long you need

[stable crane]

Oh cool - so the test is pop food off and see if it stays at 100% or close to it

[dense pine]

id reset the map to be safe as well

[spiral blade]

question on the library, I have the same books unavailable for weeks now. is there a schedule on when they reset?

[dense pine]

no, some tallents just cant be booked

[stable crane]

lol good shout. Showed 100% - then i reset map and dropped to 35%

[dense pine]

primarily the page 1 base stats and 12/13th tallents

[indigo stratus]

Some talents have other talents that lets you upgrade them

[dense pine]

^

[indigo stratus]

Lemme give you an example

[spiral blade]

Yeah I know that. I have it upgraded on 1 character but its been unavailble for awhile

[dense pine]

what tallent are you trying to book

[spiral blade]

Meat shank

[dense pine]

you can only increase it via squire tallent

[spiral blade]

ah i must have missed that one

just got the increase for max book level and been trying to level them up. must have forgotten how it increased

[indigo stratus]

Erm
Why dont i even have B damage
This is bad

[dense pine]

skill issue

[indigo stratus]

@dense pine send pic of any ur characters stats pliz

[dense pine]

just the stats?

[indigo stratus]

Damage

[dense pine]

well sure 1 sec.

[indigo stratus]

I need to see how acustic i am

[dense pine]

lol yea in a sec

[dense pine]

[indigo stratus]

I am fucking cooked

[dense pine]

😭 what the fuck is that

lustre body.

[indigo stratus]

I didint play for a year i got like 200lvls

[dense pine]

yea uh heres my DK for comparison ig

[indigo stratus]

Didint bother upgrading imma just put kruk on everyone once i get salts

[dense pine]

fair enough

[indigo stratus]

I no longer remember how to get dmg

[dense pine]

thats what ive been slowly working on

[dense pine]

it just randomly shows up

[indigo stratus]

Didint pull up on 5k acc lvl 😔

[dense pine]

idk, my SB had 150T yesterday, when i woke up today it was 250T

[indigo stratus]

I spam dmg bubbles shet dont happen

It could also be that max book lvl is 220

[stiff jay]

I fell off when I hit world 4

[dense pine]

tbf thats not even that bad

[indigo stratus]

Man im ”behind” bc i was away for a year

[dense pine]

i mean, i only started playing like half a year ago

[indigo stratus]

Ok but imagine no red hat

[dense pine]

actually more than half a year by now

[indigo stratus]

IDK

am cooked
Should i make a new acc:D

[stiff jay]

My accuracy is tragic any ways to boost it I’m at like 2.6k on my divine knight and need like 6k my wisdom is lv126 on the talent tree

[ionic delta]

can someone explain eggshell pets to me? im sure they arent worth it, but i had a couple in my fenceyard and i cant tell if they even work

[dense pine]

thats what i did when i started again but my original account was only in W4 (it just came ot back then)

[indigo stratus]

I got red hat
Cant back down

[dense pine]

what red hat lmao

[woeful karma]

read boaty?

[dense pine]

oh the arcade one

[woeful karma]

maybe?

[indigo stratus]

Was there a weapon power bubble i forgit

[indigo stratus]

Ye
Peak hat

[woeful karma]

a vial yea
wep pow bubble idk

[indigo stratus]

Also i got old event name tags so

[dense pine]

like W5 or 6 bubbles yea

[indigo stratus]

I have like 20k% damage so i need base to scale good

[mighty abyss]

what does cooking efficency do? it seems like a skill that "works by itself", is it for getting laddle when afking in world 4 lobby?

[woeful karma]

fair

[indigo stratus]

If u ”cook” u get laddles that you can use to ”skip” time in cooking

[indigo stratus]

Where is the damage tutorials when u need them

[stray drift]

For ES, am I supposed to build dr or multikill for base drops???

[floral cave]

yes

[indigo stratus]

Yes

[molten vapor]

yes

[stable valve]

im struggling with fishing prints any advice?

[molten vapor]

poppy clicker

[indigo stratus]

More efficiency

[stable valve]

Any tips on where to get that effciency

[molten vapor]

skill dimwit, more fish exp

maestro, cards, better tools

fisherman set

foods, etc

[floral cave]

oh youre talking about the prayer lmao

[blissful fractal]

if I autocollect traps, do I get cards?

[indigo stratus]

Better rod

[stable valve]

rod is void

[indigo stratus]

My skilling is like w6 and my dmg is w4

[pale thicket]

are dungeons worth the hassle?

[dense pine]

yes

just get carried in HH

[compact lake]

Can someone explain how construction and 3D printer work

[pale thicket]

hh?

[dense pine]

happy hour

[pale thicket]

3d printing you have to get a star talent from the ice cream by doing their quest, then put some levels into that and put as an attack then while grinding things like kills and certain skills, it will take a sample of what you would get and then you go to the 3d printer and set it up to just make that thing the sample amount of time each hour

[compact lake]

thx

[stable valve]

according to my player stats my fishing efficency is 168M

but my prints are like 20k

[pale thicket]

its not what you would get from afk its a sample not the full amount

construction i will leave for someone else to explain because i dont 100 percent get it myself

[quasi copper]

increase your sample percantage

[calm skiff]

Can someone answer me a question on Equinox Valley... Gathering resources?
I do understand that can't afk

But can't even auto on resources (trying to mine) ?
Whenever I do, character starts to target the Ram and stop collecting resources.

[quasi copper]

you should be able to just click just idle when you click on the node

[white path]

sample

[slender lichen]

2000 kph on worms is bad right?

[hasty mulch]

Is this worth trying to unlock/rush for or should I just focus on preparing for the rotation in 3 days..?

(spices I upgrade kitchen always is why so low)

[calm skiff]

Technically this one is really good

[hasty mulch]

Was afraid that would be the answer 😔

[calm skiff]

Let me check the rotation for you

[hasty mulch]

Oof nevermind - I dont think it's going to be possible for me to get to it. I don't have the second spice for Dango unlocked and am 5 areas away

[fossil osprey]

what power should these be to reach that requirement, so i know what to aim for

[north compass]

Do you have a forager above it?

[fossil osprey]

i dont! i should do that

[zenith hare]

top pin btw. and yeah you need a forager above it to trigger borger 10x

[fossil osprey]

i see i see

i shouldve clicked a few more things i gotcha, but thank you

[calm skiff]

Yeah if you are not making it, don't worry too much, while it does help overall progress, since you still not far in cooking/breeding it's not a big deal.

[fossil osprey]

i just put a miasma in and wondered why nothing happened whoops

[untold geyser]

Does anything work to rush lab exp?

I thought something did but, can't find anything now

[woeful karma]

are these different sources?
or rather
different number/stats

becasue i just upgraded the latter a min or three agoo and checked and its still at 100%

[floral sandal]

what best team a can create with 4 pet to push?

[wide hearth]

How often are events in the game! Going to miss the daily candys

[dusty apex]

try cloud saving?

[dusty apex]

if you can get that sand giant it will be a big help, not sure if its the best but a good option would be:
sand giant - sandy pot - mimic - glublin/walking stick

otherwise i guess you can replace the sand giant with moonmoon but it wont be as good

[floral sandal]

ok thanks

[odd obsidian]

whats the ribbon placing priority?

[low crescent]

Can someone tell me if there is a reason you can't delete your account? Like why didn't Lava Flame add this function? Is there a reason or is it just because?

I've been trying to get a new account for the last three hours. I was going to just make an extre email, but I can't. I'm probably just going to quite.

[odd obsidian]

why are you trying to delete your account? what went so wrong?

[mint glen]

prevent regret and purchases

[low crescent]

It's an old account with names I hate and I would. I like being able to start over.

[mint glen]

how about asking for a way to swap names instead

we gotta revolt

[low crescent]

Ok but to complete remove the function? 😭

[odd obsidian]

lava would probably make it cost like 1k gems

[low crescent]

That would only fix half my problems

[odd obsidian]

because greed

[odd obsidian]

i mean, how far are you?

[low crescent]

Well two days ago I was barely through world two now I'm in world four

I left my character to AFK for about 600 days, and it took all the fun away.

[odd obsidian]

how so? ive been through a few year long breaks

[low crescent]

It would also be nice to just learn everything again.

[calm skiff]

Holy... vault really did a number in game progression hun

[odd obsidian]

theres not much to learn in your world progression ill be honest

[low crescent]

I didn't realize maxing out half the stuff in the vault would do this to me

[mint glen]

if you feel overwhlemed dont think about wiping account but instead try idleon auto review

[low crescent]

When I got back I maxed out almost everything because I had a lot of money

[mint glen]

that website should guide you and some youtube videos will also help you

[odd obsidian]

ehhh its money you wouldve made in a few days by getting to better worlds

[low crescent]

Review?

What's that?

[odd obsidian]

you are however getting to a Terrible Terrible point in progression

as you are in w4 have you interacted with The Lab

[odd obsidian]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/

[calm skiff]

Its okay to slow down in Lab, but just do it enough so you can rush to W5.

Cause you want to do Div and Lab together if possible

[oak mason]

Autoreview is a program/website that basically tells you what areas of the game to focus on/how to make progress more easily, IMO if you’re still in w1 i’d just ignore it for now and see if you like the game enough before getting into 3rd party websites

[mint glen]

a website to guide you on everything you need

[mint glen]

!review

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[odd obsidian]

goharut's pretty far into divinity progression

[low crescent]

I just wish I knew my pin to make another gmail

[odd obsidian]

i wouldnt be knowledgable into both these jails because i conveniently took 2 year long breaks during those grinds

[low crescent]

And my password for my Gmail ain't working

[odd obsidian]

thats a pretty concerning issue

[low crescent]

I'm not good with devices I just forgot it

For someone my age I feel like I should be good with devices

[odd obsidian]

write your codes down on paper from now on

[low crescent]

I did but at some point I somehow changed it (not joking) and then iylt wasn't written down. It doesn't matter much because it's only a personal email

[kindred basin]

Does the tower defense storm caller 20% crit chance bonus stack with multiple towers?

[odd obsidian]

yikes

[odd obsidian]

yes

[kindred basin]

Alr thanks

[hard bridge]

Anyone have a pet build for the last 2 W6 spice fights?

[wheat cove]

how do i sample bloaches?

[oak walrus]

Same as other fish its random

[true hamlet]

Something like refiller refiller looter monolithic (insert shield here) rattler should work

[oak walrus]

Unless u mean the optimal way which idk

[wheat cove]

k.

[hard bridge]

Hmm, okay. Thanks

[true hamlet]

I personally swap out 1 refiller for a fleeter but that's a little more unreliable

Might take a few tries to get it going

[low crescent]

Good news I reset my password although I'm not sure how I did it. I don't know how I was able to confirm it was me but I somehow did it.

[sage vortex]

Why are some books unable to be checked out from the library

Like fist of rage for example

[latent bramble]

because it's levels are increased by other talents

[sage vortex]

So I can’t increase my book of the wise max level on my barb?

[latent bramble]

not until you get vman

[sage vortex]

Man I just got maestro

So what’s another way to boost accuracy then? I’m assuming stamps, vials, or bubbles?

[latent bramble]

All of the above, plus owl/roo/vault

maybe level up some skills to equip better weapons for better stats/more slots and then apply w4 stones with a mage (to force wisdom)

[sage vortex]

Still in late W3

[latent bramble]

Do you have this alchemy bubble unlocked yet? Green 9

[sage vortex]

Yes

I have that and FMJ

[latent bramble]

What level's your purple 1?

[sage vortex]

OH

I see

My alchemy needs some work 😞

[zenith hare]

update when

[latent bramble]

Shaquracy is good, but it doesn't give much if you don't have base wisdom to multiply

Pump a few levels into that and you should be fine for w3/4

[zenith hare]

obols, gear, tools, cards, card sets, w1/2 clickers, dungeons, prayers, vault, star signs, talents, stamps, PO boxes for acc work on these and you'll be fine. this gives about 50k acc, no alchemy needed
w4 needs 15k acc by the end of it

also this

[sage vortex]

Sweet thanks

[zenith hare]

thats with 0 alchemy investment

minus level 1 bubbles ig

[compact lake]

How does trapping work

[junior terrace]

does card snapshotting still work

[zenith hare]

no as card dr is passive now

[junior terrace]

damn i been wasting time

[latent bramble]

only if you bought it

[sage vortex]

What is the accuracy needed for W3 boss?

[zenith hare]

pretty low

[latent bramble]

less than bop boxes

[zenith hare]

esp since you only need 5% hit chance, as the boss doesnt heal

[latent bramble]

and that's not even the actual requirement

[zenith hare]

gotta love it

[latent bramble]

same as quenchies apparently

i wonder if he'll ever update those boss cards with new reqs

[zenith hare]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[lunar sinew]

is there anything to do with extra talent checkout books besides just selling them to vendor?

[zenith hare]

lend them to another char of the exact same class

[thick lantern]

#player-suggestions message

[junior terrace]

are opals + conj points high prio in gem shop or any of the oddities

[cold wraith]

2x xp for all>2x/3x resources>conjurer points>opals

[junior terrace]

thakns

is there an updated gem shop tier list

i think i got all the up to w6 stuff that are high prio but would be nice to make sure

[hard bridge]

@true hamlet You are a freaking saint man!! Tysvm!

[unique token]

man, beginner levels skills so slowly. Been like 3 days trying to get mining to 33 for maestro, even at lvl105 with 750 luck

Gonna take like 2 weeks to get the other skills

[compact lake]

does this work afk?

[full beacon]

I was/am in the same boat, I realized after I did the mining levels that I was missing out on a decent amount of skill efficiency and stuff. do you have prayers unlocked?

[dense pine]

? its an active tallent

[unique token]

yeah, but the skill eff nerfs your xp gain

[dense pine]

oh, no

[latent bramble]

it's also like a once a day click

[full beacon]

there's a different one, caps your afk to 10 hours but increases exp by a ton

mine is currently at like 50% more

[unique token]

ah, I dont have that one unlocked yet

[full beacon]

what tool you up to, and what's the current state of your cards too

if you can beat chaotic amarok effaunt, his card is pretty strong for skill exp

[unique token]

using poopy pickaxe with full w4 upgrades, cards are mining and afk focused, not the best levels, but can't raise them much more

[full beacon]

also don't forget constellations

[dense pine]

eh..? isnt chamarok fighting afk gains?

[true hamlet]

Fight afk gains?

[unique token]

how much are constellations worth? I currently have most of my account farming accuracy cards

[full beacon]

oh I did I pick the wrong one?

who is the skill exp xD

elephant?

[dense pine]

one of the effaunt ones i believe

but honestly not sure, all his cards suck.

[dense pine]

theyre pretty nice to have

[full beacon]

well there's some early ones that increase the skill eff directly

like 20% chopping or something

[dense pine]

most are pretty eazy to get so id say its worth getting some

[full beacon]

^

[dense pine]

and yea, the early ones are really good for skilling

[full beacon]

does poopy give more exp than metal ones ? I thought it was just to have enough power for non dedicated classes

but the overall rates being sacrificed for that ability

[unique token]

not sure, it has 48 power and 2 speed with my upgrades

[full beacon]

well mining was definitely the slower one for me, so at least you can look forward to chopping going by faster xD

[hoary pebble]

Is the shiny snitch prayer's curse ever an issue? I just realised it's a multiplier and not an additive decrease (?)

[full beacon]

it's lvl 51 for the % skill exp

[latent bramble]

don't use the poopy tools, their slower skill speed kills your gains

[shut hull]

Poopy Pickaxe and grumblo hatchet? boosts the other skill though

so use those

[latent bramble]

it's the only way to get more than 1 shiny per trap

[full beacon]

skewered snek

[hollow osprey]

oh boy, really need to get luckier on my upgrade stones

[strange flare]

Acc moment

[shut hull]

That too

[hollow osprey]

also acc, yeah

no idea how im gonna get my acc up except like shaquracy

[strange flare]

Flurbo shop maxed?

[latent bramble]

what level is your acc stat bubble?

[strange flare]

The cow hungers for knowledge

[dense pine]

...luckier? w4 stones give main stat of the character youre currently on

[hoary pebble]

So we just take the curse head-on and max the prayer regardless, even if it decreases the odds then.

[warm flare]

anyone got a clue why i left my game on overnight and its only at 2 hour?

[hollow osprey]

yes, but getting luckier on it just applying

i've been buying them for like 3 days straight and still havent filled every upgrade slot

[strange flare]

May need to sync and relog

[dense pine]

lag maybe? try cloud saving

[latent bramble]

yes, there are a number of shiny chance sources, there are no other sources of shiny # per trap

[hollow osprey]

nope, working on that, just takes a while

[warm flare]

my computer kept going into "sleep mode" does that change anything

i dont think it would

[full beacon]

I recall seeing something in the wiki about certain activity not gaining progress while on the player selection screen. better to just close the game

[strange flare]

Should count as afk time

[full beacon]

or afk on an actual character

[warm flare]

you're the goat, i just needed to press change character/cloud save

thank yall ❤️

[strange flare]

That’s what I said

[warm flare]

ik ik sorry you too

[dense pine]

im better

[dense pine]

yw lol, any time

[strange flare]

You’re applying w4 stones on acc class right?

Also using good acc cards

[hollow osprey]

wdym by acc class

[strange flare]

W4 stones give stats based on the character you are on

[full beacon]

is this the meta for w4+? I've been putting it on dmg mainstat

[strange flare]

So if you use the stones on warrior you get strength guaranteed

[hazy zinc]

Is there an upgrade somewhere that I don't recall picking up that gives free cooking meal level ups. I have a few plates that show maxed and don't recall ever mass producing them.

[hollow osprey]

only acc card i really have is sand castle, but i do have it at 4 stars

[strange flare]

No just as long as you need accuracy. You get to a point accuracy is so abundant you don’t need to even think about it

[hollow osprey]

i... did not know this

good to know

[dense pine]

i just told you

[strange flare]

Yeah so if you’re playing a warrior and need accuracy you love the gear and stones on a mage first then apply

[dense pine]

ig this is your "im better" moment

[strange flare]

I’m better

[dense pine]

yup.

[dense pine]

sacred methods pack maybe?

[hollow osprey]

i was talking about def with the upgrade stone and luck with applying it. i didnt realize you were talking about acc

[dense pine]

w6 jade emporium as well

[stable marsh]

Dead

[ruby hollow]

You might have bought a bundle that gives free meal levels per each day you log in

[indigo stratus]

what do you guyz print on each class generally

[stable marsh]

Legit. Nothing.

I really should print stuff

But the Prayer that gets more printing for less XP won't turn itself 📴

[full beacon]

all the main designated skill people should just print those mats... like barbarian do fish (leaving squire for ores), etc

those will result in the highest numbers

[ruby hollow]

You need to delete all of your currently set prints before you can remove it

[stable marsh]

Bruh

[long python]

vman is best to greenstack drops early on

[stable marsh]

I can't remember what I ate earlier. I can't remember what I was printing 😭

[fast lily]

im focusing on my dk rn w4 and feel like its going slow bc need of accuracy what should i do?

[long python]

just push to w5

[fast lily]

with dk only?

[long python]

dk isn't great for pushing to w5 imo

[fast lily]

what then is?

[long python]

depends, whover has the highest kph. you should have the lab node for multikill lit up

then just slap accuracy cards on

[fast lily]

yh but how should i unlock multikill lab

[mossy star]

what island is best to get 3rd?

[fast lily]

the line lengt aint enough

how do i increase it the best way

[long python]

Did you just get to w4? You have to afk in lab for a while

[fast lily]

does the higher lvl then get a further line?

[long python]

There are foods that boost it a lot too

[fast lily]

wich one?

[long python]

level increases the base value for line width, foods for lab line are probably too hard to get pre-w5

[long python]

also make sure you have elite classes, the bubo has a talent that gives extra lab exp and a talent to boost line width

[warm flare]

thoughts on buying the bundle?

[fast lily]

should i focus on the grren tube more exp or pruple tube longer width then?

[quick bane]

Any tips for w4? Rn I have all my people in lab for killer bright side besides 1 DK who is pushing and is in the third to last area B4 the boss

[fast lily]

should i focus on the grren tube more exp or pruple tube longer width then?

[oak lynx]

I believe that this isn't normal

[strange flare]

Sounds like you’re doing it right

[quick bane]

Ok

[long python]

I'd focus on more xp until you get at least a few to like level 10

at level 10 lab you should be able to hit multikill with like 5 guys

[indigo stratus]

i dont know what that means

[indigo stratus]

aight ty

[strange flare]

Print what you need to upkeep salts first, rest into crafting materials you need

[hollow valley]

how do i get my 7nth charactar to a journeyman???

[oak lynx]

The quest

[hollow valley]

where do i find that?

[oak lynx]

Look it on YouTube

[long python]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Secrets

[hollow valley]

ty

[fast lily]

so any other way to increase xp cuz its currently like 20-25

[stable marsh]

Nah it is

[lunar badge]

Do cards affect placing traps or just collecting them? e.g. if I placed my trap with shiny cards, and the rift autocollect replaces them for me, do they retain those qualities, or are cards only checked upon the trap collecting

[junior bane]

Efficiency for placing shiny for picking up

[latent bramble]

!trapchart like so

[candid scarab]

Created by ..someone

[hollow valley]

where do i get the golden peanut resepie????

[lunar badge]

interesting

Do the traps retain that efficiency on autocollects?

Okay, probably worth resetting all of them

[junior bane]

Ye the efficiency is based of when its placed

[lunar badge]

Well yes, I was just asking if after it's been autocollected it still has that efficiency modifier, since it technically is being collected and placed down again unless the code handles it differently

hmm i should probably be placing them down with my hunter then

[jolly kiln]

does it still matter which chars I veiw construction with?

[junior terrace]

if i place shrines on w6 town will i get bonus in w3 if i have lab node + sailing artifact?

[untold geyser]

Should, I think that's how that works

[white path]

sailing artifact makes bonus always active, lab node makes it so that u can level it if u afk in that world instead of map

[untold geyser]

There is more to lab beyond the extension node later isn't there?

[junior terrace]

can i lvl w6 shrine if im in lab?

or do i have to place shrines in w4

[untold geyser]

Would have to be in w4 (assuming you have the node and the artifact, otherwise it gets more restrictive)

[junior terrace]

ok

yea i got both

[untold geyser]

I'm at the akward part where I'm on the fence of should I move them to w5 and lose the progress, or just forgo leveling them for a bit while most of my people are in divinity jail.

[junior terrace]

i was blessed with a doot trader who wanted a frog so im in both rn :)

my es card farming other 9 in div/lab jail

[white path]

theres a bonus in w6 that allows u to move shrines without losing progress

[junior terrace]

wait... i lose progress? if i move them,??

[jolly kiln]

yippe

[untold geyser]

Yea, they reset to 0 exp of whatever level they are at

So if they are 10M/12M and you move them it goes to 0/12M

[junior terrace]

bro... i think i prob lost a lot of xp just now then

[untold geyser]

It won't delevel though, so there is at least that

[junior terrace]

where do i get this

[stable marsh]

World 6

[crude kernel]

dont mind it too much, shrine suck ass

[untold geyser]

I love the extended reach node in lab, it makes so much difference in what you can connect to. Just wish it didn't have the problem of if you disconnect from it sometimes you have a hard time getting back to it after moving people around.

[junior terrace]

yea but from where D: or whats it called

[jolly kiln]

They dont really if u level them they can get quite decent boosts

[stable marsh]

I forgot

[junior terrace]

clover shrine 😻

[untold geyser]

Cresent shrine is likley helpful for what it does, kind of situationally of course

[heavy sentinel]

what's the best class to push through w4?

[dusty harness]

dk or es

[white path]

jade emporium

[crude kernel]

you play active or no? and have you unlocked any elite classes?

[jolly kiln]

soon itll only be worship 💀

1 more mining lvl till its just chopping and worship

[slender lichen]

maestro seems like a pain to get

[jolly kiln]

Its easy to get at this point

just a pain to get the bonuses up n running

[jolly kiln]

if anything vman is the pain to get

[viral vapor]

VMan master class is going to be at the bottom of the hole

[wheat cove]

i just skipped maestro with like, 100 baloons and 100 black pearls XDDDDDDDD

[regal marlin]

why does every one of my characters get 15 bug exp when I enter the mammoths map

[white lintel]

the hive auto breaks giving you catching xp

[pastel portal]

whats the best route for vman portal rush? ik its somewhere i just cant find it

[regal marlin]

oh yeah, I noticed that some of them auto break and some don't, what's up with that

[white lintel]

I think w3 and on autobreak

the hive is an indefinatly postponed mechanic

it doesnt even work but i think its just hardcoded into the skill so you cant really get rid of it

[regal marlin]

the only one that I know that respawns is fruitflies

shrug

[white lintel]

fruitflies seems to respawn on every map load but the others do it on like a daily basis or something

[junior terrace]

is this card good? i got it from a pack i think

[white lintel]

yes

[wheat cove]

can somone tell me what the hell the emperor is? XDDDDD

[junior terrace]

should i buy a 4 star cardifier

[junior terrace]

idk myself

[white lintel]

w6 boss

[wheat cove]

kk

[junior terrace]

should i buy a 4 star cardifier and use my free 5 star one?

[white lintel]

I probably would yea

[junior terrace]

fire my first 5 star card

idk where even to find this boss

[white lintel]

not in the game yet

[fossil hatch]

You can’t

[junior terrace]

??? why is there a card lmao

[fossil hatch]

🤷‍♂️

W6 card pack is how you got it

[junior terrace]

ye

[white lintel]

to make money

[fossil hatch]

Worked out, because that dr card is insane

[junior terrace]

yea it seemed rlly high even at 3 star

[fossil hatch]

Multi tier was actually insane when it first dropped also

[white lintel]

I only got my hands on the MK one, no DR or dmg yet, but thats not the worst since the Mk one will be the hardest to farm

[snow isle]

What does one do after all characters are Lab 75 and Div 40? Just slap Bear on them and have them do their thing? Or leave them in the lab still with Goat?

(this is a question primarily about Lab, hence in W4 channel)

[fossil hatch]

I have both multi and dr 5*

And dmg 2* 😅

[white lintel]

bear as real link, omni and harriep as pocket link, one ES has purrmep as their talent god slot

[junior terrace]

wait is drop rarity the same as drop chance?

[white lintel]

yes

[junior terrace]

it like barely went up after upgrading that card

[wheat cove]

how does survivability affect KPH, when stuff like defense dosent do damage......

[white lintel]

it went up at least a whole .72 not taking into consideration multis

thats a lot for one card

[fossil hatch]

And it goes up with the chip from lab

[fossil hatch]

Drop rate has gone up so much, people are calling .72 “barely went up” lol

[snow isle]

Already set up like that. Was mainly asking along the lines of, do I keep them in lab, or set them free with bear?

[latent bramble]

someone to div 50 for multitool, then probably over to hole for 24k monuments

[white lintel]

set them free, but keep one in to get div 80 for multitool stamp, but you could wait for better div xp to get that

nvm its 50

[junior terrace]

oh wait i had to refresh the map lol it didnt even go up at first

[latent bramble]

you'll also need to get 2100 lab at some point and as high div as you can get in between

[white lintel]

I dont think you can snapshot DR

[fossil hatch]

Not what he meant

Sometimes bonuses simply won’t kick in until you re load

[junior terrace]

yea this

[fossil hatch]

I know what he’s saying, it happens every single time I upgrade a bubble

Or put chips on

The stats or whatever simply just doesn’t work until reset

[junior terrace]

i upgraded the card but it was already equipped so nothing changed on stats page until i refreshed

[white lintel]

ahh i understand now, i didnt know he had it equipped when he upgrded it mb

[fossil hatch]

[indigo stratus]

what should i use my ribbons on , i probably fucked up with my first one as i tough i could move them around but it seems to be 1 time use

[mossy star]

use them for cooking sPeed

[torn tree]

cabbage is good for ribbon

[mossy star]

eggs corndog and cabbage

[jolly kiln]

IE tells me to upgrade this but is it even worth it rn?

also for some reason this one keeps getting upgraded by the NBLB even when it was lvl 1

at this point I might as well upgrade it so nblb doesnt choose it

[indigo ginkgo]

Put the lvl 10 ribbon on egg

And put the other lvl 10 ribbon on cabbage

[strange prism]

If I use the trapper drone, do I need Shiny Snitch on every characters or just the BM when I initially lay the traps

[thin granite]

How do you increase your 3d printers effiency

[wheat cove]

i wish i could print 2 things on one character ;-;

[indigo stratus]

i have a 16 , a 10 and 4x8 and 1x6

[upper moss]

has something changed or am i missing something? i just got like wave 76-78 on goblin worship but it still says my best is 72

[mossy star]

U can buy in gem shop

[wheat cove]

oh shoot, ill save up then

[upper moss]

u wont believe this bud

[mossy star]

hahah

[junior terrace]

!merit6

[candid scarab]

⚠️ WARNING: Currently you can't get enough merit points to get everything. Don't buy the talent points.
1️⃣ First 3 purchases give plots making Farming a lot faster.
2️⃣ Summoning Winner Bonuses are very influential at all stages.
3️⃣ Farming mainly for OG chance. Can be swapped with Jade Gain if you prioritize Sneaking more.
4️⃣ Jade Gain is placed low because getting all Jade Emporium purchases is easier than all crops in Farming and since Farming buffs Sneaking.
5️⃣ Mob respawn last. Doesn't save much time. Can be done earlier if you have finished Farming and Sneaking.
⏳ Unreleased. Priority unknown but likely high if/when you can buy them.
⛔ Don't get the talent points even if you have points to spare. The recipes will be higher priority when released.

[glacial dagger]

What spices do I need to unlock cabbage

[dusty apex]

you can use the wiki and i think IT as well to tell you the required spices

but most people probably wont remember exactly which spice is needed for those earlier ones

[mellow gyro]

entering the frog dungeon area ends speedrun q.q

[dusty apex]

yes all dungeons do that

because it deactivates all active talents so you cant do anything funny in the dungeons

[sage vortex]

Is it worth putting people in lab early to go ahead and level?

I just got to w4

[dusty harness]

early w4 get everyone to genies map to get elite classes for all of them, then put all but your pusher (dk or es) in lab

[sage vortex]

Genie map is how far?

[dusty harness]

4th one iirc

[jolly kiln]

finally hit 2000 stamp level any stamps here I should focus a bit to upgrade them real quick?

total is 2052(screenshot I forgot to keep that # in it)

[dusty harness]

get those skill stamps

[jolly kiln]

I have been thats the majority of my stamp lvls

you mean the green ones?

[mellow gyro]

rift 11 is cooking me alive

[dusty harness]

the ones you havent gotten

[jolly kiln]

I have been getting them

[mellow gyro]

all my abilities insta kill, but i simply can't get 180 on orb

[jolly kiln]

it just takes a while for some of these to drop

This is like 5hrs on my warior tho lemme do that

thats either the trapping* one

or the other worship one I think

cant remember

[dusty harness]

multitool is good

[jolly kiln]

what world is that?

Im in w4 man

[white path]

W5

[jolly kiln]

yea Im not getting that for a while then

[jolly kiln]

memorious Ill get that whenever I get to w5

taking these worlds slow

[dusty harness]

oh thought you were w5

[jolly kiln]

my nick says my world I keep it updated

final skills I need to get up b4 I feel ready: worship and breeding

mostly just worship

[dusty harness]

im too used to the people who have early w1 in their name but is actually late w6

[jolly kiln]

my cooking(yes I got to the point where even w/o diamond chef yet im just doing this bc I got nothin better to do rn till breeding stronker)

[jolly kiln]

kama does this so I get it

[dusty harness]

breeding is just waiting til you get all the good pets to speedrun territory and arena 200

[jolly kiln]

I was just going for like a pet w/ 5k on it

best so far is 2k

[dusty harness]

which one are you on

[full beacon]

is there a max stack for library checkouts?

[jolly kiln]

coarse mountains

round 21

[latent bramble]

that you can hold? no, but new books take more time to acquire

[red compass]

no but the stack grows slower the more u get

[full beacon]

ahhh yes familiar mechanic, thanks 👍🏼

[dusty harness]

unlock more world 2 pets

pastpres multi will help with this

[jolly kiln]

pastpres?

[dusty harness]

its in the upgrade tab, basically increase the chance of breeding a new pet based on how much pet you have of the previous worlds

[jolly kiln]

I d ont have this yet

what lvl breeding is it?

[dusty harness]

yeah you need lv 30 iirc

[jolly kiln]

then im close ish

breeding 21

[dusty harness]

early breeding is really slow

[jolly kiln]

ty for reminding me to get this for upgrades

rarity incase I miss it I get more chance for bronze atleast

[crystal pivot]

I am a bit confused with what I am reading online and with the journeyman. I have gone 1x each base class with 2x DK 2x SB and 2x ES and now I am on character 10, I got a JM. but which spec do I make it? do I end up with char 11 being a JM too?

[dusty harness]

jm doesnt branch out

[keen dirge]

For some reason my progress didn’t save at all, I went afk 7 hours ago and I realized my dootophone and trimmed tuneless were gone

[dusty harness]

syncing problem maybe?

[keen dirge]

I only played on my laptop though, although I did just log back in after lag issues

[crystal pivot]

whats void walker and maestro then? maestro must be the jm but then who is vw?

[dusty harness]

sleep mode causes desync btw

[dusty harness]

jman > maestro > voidwalker

[keen dirge]

Oh

[crystal pivot]

thanks heaps, appreciatede

[keen dirge]

Anyway to get my progress back?

[dusty harness]

im not sure if lava would help but its not that hard to get those back tbh

[keen dirge]

Ok thanks

[quick bane]

when should i start doing sigils? im mid w4 rn

[dusty harness]

w6

[quick bane]

okilie dokilie

[minor needle]

okay I been gone a super long time, I don't know what these colors mean, let alone how do I claim these eggs? or better to leave them there? lol

[slender lichen]

i forgot i think that means that they have better chances at being stronger or smth

[fast ridge]

Have you upgraded everything in the vault?

[minor needle]

I been going through the vault and upgrading tons, since it's all new since I last played

been gone for a couple years and trying to catch up and understand what is going on... lol

[fast ridge]

It just gives a breeding exp gain boost, and those being such high rarity will give a lot of exp, just another boost.

And yeah, they can give higher pet power, and higher chance for the next pet

[minor needle]

idk if I got the money to unlock the breeding exp boost. got like 40 purple coins or something. though I haven't logged on my main who was fighting afk so that is probably more money.

though I guess it would be better to claim that and see if I can get to that vault upgrade first

also does any specific class get more breeding exp when claiming them?

[fast ridge]

Bm might have a 3rd tab talent, but I'm not sure

[fast ridge]

I think the second part of the breeding upgrade might be static, not actually needing the upgrade. It could be a waste of time letting the eggs just sit

[shell crypt]

Im totally new in lab how do i make these line farther?

[minor needle]

I know line width increases with lab level

[dusty harness]

meals, lab levels

[fast ridge]

Higher lab levels, just let them sit there and gain exp

[dusty harness]

basically the two big ones early on

[shell crypt]

So i just let them sit in there gain exp and lvls?

[fast ridge]

Only thing, lab levels don't increase the line length between characters and bonuses, just between characters.

Meals too

[minor needle]

also bubonic conjurer has a talent that part of their lab exp earned is also given to the player with the lowest lab level, so it can help level those not in it

[minor needle]

which is a bummer, how many characters do you need in lab to get all the bonuses then? or do people normally just not have them all?

[fast ridge]

There are some other bonuses which do increase that distance. Also in world 5 they can be in lab without physically being there

[bronze moth]

(arctis)

[minor needle]

what :o!!

man so I quit right before my people could lab without labbing lol

[bronze moth]

also there's another bonus where you can get divinity and lab xp at the same time

[fast ridge]

Divinity is where that bonus is from

[bronze moth]

there's also another bonus which gives 2x kills

i just unlocked goharut yesterday

[heady goblet]

someone told me to use the lab to help push, so this is the farthest i can get, and my bc is the right most and the talents are 16 16 0 38 for the lab stuff, what do?

[bronze moth]

now it's time for omniphau

what does omniphau do again?

lemme check

[bronze moth]

just wait for lab lvls (also upgrade upgrade vault lab xp bonus)

[heady goblet]

How do you get lab levels? just be in there?

[slender lichen]

honestly i have no idea how lab is supposed to help you push though w4 since most of its buffs are on afk stuff like cauldrons, pet fights, etc.

[heady goblet]

and does that improve the line length?

[slender lichen]

yeah it does

[heady goblet]

Killer's Brightside All monster kills count for 2x more than normal for things like opening portals and Death Note. Doesn't increase resource drops or exp gain.

[slender lichen]

which one is that one?

[bronze moth]

node with skull

[slender lichen]

ah got it

well maybe i should start pushing w4 with that then

maybe

[bronze moth]

only push w4 with killer brightside

(by that I mean only start pushing w4 when u have that node)

[indigo ginkgo]

You can, its on the world 3 gem shop

[white lintel]

You could start pushing before you get it but that depend on your kph

[noble moth]

any good setup of 4 vs dangering duo?

(700k health)

[minor needle]

so when I go to breed (I apparently have lustre grade eggs ready), which should I go for? I also have the first pet in w4 shown as a choice too

[dusty harness]

i would go w1 up to nutto, w2 up to snelbie w3 up to bloque

[minor needle]

with that priority order?

and just breed til unlock?

[dusty harness]

if the chance is 30%+ then go for it

[slender lichen]

so thats why we put people into lab jail

now the issue is that most of my characters (except for 2 of them) have not been farming lab jail

[bronze moth]

i personally started pushing only when I got killer brightside

[slender lichen]

issue being i have a average of 2 k kph

though to be fair i am literally 2 portals away from the rift so....

[bronze moth]

my vman is stuck on iron since he needs to catch up to my dk's lvl 50 mining 😭

[wheat cove]

anyone else wondering how survivability affects KPH?

[slender lichen]

not really

OH RIGHT I FORGOT TO RESTOCK MY FOOD

[bronze moth]

because if you don't have 100%, you kill less mobs since you have a chance of dying before the 1hr mark

[slender lichen]

yeah

[wheat cove]

oh... i just thought u were invincible as long as u were AFK XDDDDDDDD

[slender lichen]

current afk stats

uhh

other than the golden helmet is therea nything else i can work on?

[dusty harness]

you have killer brightside?

[slender lichen]

farming lab lvs for that already on other chars

[wheat cove]

if i get 5866 defense, and am no invincible to dmg in that area, will that increase my KPH?

[bronze moth]

this is my lab rn

[bronze moth]

if you reach kill cap, then no

[dusty harness]

just get the automation arm upgrade

[wheat cove]

k.

[slender lichen]

you are not getting 5866 defense

[bronze moth]

I have lvl 37 bubo

[wheat cove]

wdym....

[bronze moth]

I'm in w6 and I only have 5205 man 😭

[wheat cove]

im very close to 5866 defense.

[slender lichen]

my point exactly

[wheat cove]

XDDDDDD

[dusty harness]

defense is the last thing you should be worrying about

[slender lichen]

you see if you are pushing through worlds

defense aint going to be one of your major stats

you will heavily rely on foods and hemogoblin talent

[noble moth]

any good setup of 4 vs dangering duo?
(the 700k 2 boss enemies)

[wheat cove]

if i deal massive dmg, will that increase my kph?

[bronze moth]

unless you have like lvl 60 fmj (practically impossible at your stage) it's impossible

[bronze moth]

yes, as long as you don't reach kill cap, which is the point where dmg does absolutely nothing to increase kph

then it's relying on afk gains

[full beacon]

is there a way to candy trapping or only balloons work

[wheat cove]

where do i view my kill cap.

[bronze moth]

you don't, it's just the point where your kills don't increase from dmg

[wheat cove]

then what is the kill cap.

[slender lichen]

& multikill

[bronze moth]

and that

[slender lichen]

varries

[bronze moth]

but there's almost no way you're getting multikill on late w4 mobs in w4

[wheat cove]

what is the kill cap for the purple worm thingy

[slender lichen]

i seriously dont understand mutikill sometimes

[slender lichen]

probably ~2000 like everything else

[wheat cove]

so....... if the cap is 2000, how much damage do i need to reach that

[slender lichen]

good question

[bronze moth]

depends

there's no formula, it's a guessing game really

[wheat cove]

m, k

[slender lichen]

fr

[bronze moth]

well it depends on respawn rate and mob respawn time

[wheat cove]

so, does 20M sound good?

[bronze moth]

that's like mid w5 dmg

[slender lichen]

right forgot you can upgrade that

[bronze moth]

just focus on afk gains for now @wheat cove there's no way you're getting enough dmg to hit kill cap on late w4

unless ur overprepared

[wheat cove]

alright XDDDDDDDD

[slender lichen]

mid to late w5 you say?

[bronze moth]

that was me in early w5

but it skyrocketed in late w5

[slender lichen]

oh right and make sure to keep acc high

since acc also increases kph

[wheat cove]

if i have more than 100% needed accuracy, does that increase my KPH

[slender lichen]

nope

[bronze moth]

unless u have dk 1.5x accuracy talent, nope

i have almost 500k accuracy 😭

[slender lichen]

though there is talents that increase kph

[wheat cove]

k

[slender lichen]

on expert classes i mean

oh right and make sure not to negelect dungeons

[wheat cove]

ever hate it when the offer window covers the stamp area? -__-

[shy barn]

!merit2

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into obols makes it possible for them to drop at all. Obols are rare items giving stat boosts when equipped.
2️⃣ Buy for all unlocked characters. Afk gains are very important and 2% per character is quite a lot when you start out with just 20%. Purchase more every time you get a new character.
3️⃣ Mob respawn increases your kills per hour making opening portals faster. If you are done with world 2 for now you can skip this in favor of purchases that help in all worlds.
4️⃣ When maxed you are likely to get a bit over 7 gems for every 10 kills on average regardless of boss or difficulty.
5️⃣ Obols are rare and more drop rate will help you fill out your obol pages faster.
6️⃣ More balls = More gems, arcade bonuses and other items.
7️⃣ Not much better than Amarok gear for a significantly higher price.
8️⃣ EXP Converter is not worth using.
⚔️ The two star talents boost card drops and mana regen. Put a point here as soon as you start farming the W2 minibosses. The other points increasing the drop rate are less important. Buy the Silver Antique and Capitalist Case from the forest shop daily for more chances instead until after arcade balls are maxed.

[shy barn]

!merit1

[candid scarab]

🛡️ Hemoglobin is a great way to increase survivability allowing you to push new maps faster. How much you need it will depend on factors like your equipment, progress in the W2 clicker and dungeon shop purchases. 3 points straight away with all 10 being bought by the start of W3 will probably be a good balance for most people.
1️⃣ The first 3 pieces of Amarok Gear are boots, pants and a chestplate giving decent defense and lots of upgrade slots making them great bang for your buck. A significant amount of people use this gear all the way to W4 or W5. Make sure to use the best upgrade stones you can. Recrafting Amarok Gear so you can apply better stones in the future is a good idea. The boxing gloves needed for task 3 can be crafted by reclaiming the crimson string from the quest list.
2️⃣ Bosses can give lots of great resources such as Amarok Slabs for armor and the Amarok Card giving skill afk gains. At max lvl you can expect to get two thirds of a kill extra for every key you use.
3️⃣ More respawn equals more kills and loot.
4️⃣ Your lowest leveled character isn't high priority. Can be a bit helpful but non-essential.
5️⃣ The last two Amarok recipes are a helmet requiring 5 rare Woodular Circles and a pendant requiring 25 Distilled Water and 4 Chaotic Amarok Slabs. They are about as good as the other pieces of equipment but at a much steeper price making it debatable if they are worth it at all.
6️⃣ You've gotten these bags before and can do so again while getting some extra rewards allowing you to spend your merit points on better upgrades.
⚔️ The star talents gives extra class xp or food effect. The former gives just +6.67% for 100 points but the latter can have a large effect on potions and skilling food. Put 1 point here when you start killing Baba Yaga. The other points are low priority since you can get good books without them.

[latent bramble]

If you're going to spam a bunch (and the wrong world for the channel), use #bot-commands

[wild urchin]

Do i continue w4 with ES or BB

[wheat cove]

should i get chizoar gear? XDDDDDD

[latent bramble]

ES will be easier in the long run for w5

[latent bramble]

Chiz helm/chest do give some damage. If you happen to have the materials it's generally worth it but it's not necessary

[wild urchin]

I dont really active farm

[wheat cove]

k.

[latent bramble]

The W5 boss damage requirements are much higher for BB than ES or DK (or anyone else). So, up to you

[wild urchin]

The boss hp changes according to the char your running???

[cursive galleon]

!merit3

[dusty apex]

#bot-commands

[cursive galleon]

ah

sorry, thank you!

[slate parrot]

Any difference between glubin and wood stick pet in breeding? Both are refillers

[dusty apex]

pick the one you like more, cool bird over nutto any day

[high trail]

Ayooo nutto is cute tho

[slate parrot]

Thx

[wheat cove]

are crystal mobs in later worlds rarer than crystal mobs in earlier worlds

[viral vapor]

Do fishing samples "degrade" when you're trying to find for instance bloach but it produces a worse jellyfish one?

[full beacon]

I wasn't even aware that you could get different numbers

if it's based on skill efficiency and stuff it shouldn't fluctuate right?

[viral vapor]

Depending on your depth at the time it can shift

[full beacon]

ooouuuu, good to know

but also, no, it won't degrade

[viral vapor]

So like super duper early it can mean the difference between 2-4 bloaches in the printer

[full beacon]

at least it hasn't when I did logs and stuff, while forfgetting equips/cards

[viral vapor]

If you fiddle with bobber and line

[pseudo moss]

In which channel the weekly boss sequence is posted?

[latent bramble]

In general, samples always keep the highest ones you've recorded
Fish samples are weird because there are a number of factors: pool location (1st or 2nd map, left or right pools), depth (more of one depth means less of another), speed, and power

This spreadsheet has the best locations to sample each fish, along with which lures/bobbers to use
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1at-y9t5ohYky33nOLoSxHYeyRX-3T91paj-nTSHrB3c/edit?gid=1826222324#gid=1826222324

[latent bramble]

!weeklyboss

[candid scarab]

Want the W2 Weekly Boss kill strategies? Of course you do. You can head to https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1157094107085283428 and read the pins.

Want to know the strategies for future weeks too? Check out the Google Sheet made by Roronoa Zoro and DiamondDoge.

[viral vapor]

Yea I was aware of the sheet for sampling the fish and the various combulations but unsure if it could get mucked if you did it all in one go

[lone swan]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=number_one0242 what should i work on rn?

[pure swan]

ive got 2 tier 6 ribbons (x1.61) and a tier 8 ribbon (x1.82) what do i put them on? i have a tier 9 ribbon on salad and a tier 10 ribbon on egg and cabbages both

[shut hull]

What's the latest meal ya got

[latent bramble]

why salad

[shut hull]

money

[pure swan]

this is what i got rn (the other kitchens are cooking cabbages too)

[latent bramble]

vault carries without having wasted a t9 on one oh well
i'd probably throw something onto corndog (more cooking speed, right next to cabbage)
honestly rice ball or corn for skill eff might be good for your account too, gotta pump those skill levels for damage

[latent bramble]

!review have you checked out the auto review tool yet?

[candid scarab]

https://ieautoreview-scoli.pythonanywhere.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Scoli
If you need help, please use https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1174753262365315203

[pure swan]

oh yeah ive been using autoreview, havent checked it in a while tho thanks

[latent bramble]

wasn't aimed at you, but you're welcome

[latent bramble]

unlock star signs so you can equip 2-3
work on skill levels for better prints and to equip tools (free stats!)
give all your characters a skull/trap
set more traps on everyone
work on getting all your elite classes

[faint matrix]

Vman speedrun guide ??

[faint matrix]

So I shouldn't use my void radius on w1 - w3 at all ?

[sleek pollen]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1109526896640807002 used the route from that

twas kinda what I was doing anyway

[cold wraith]

almost godshard weapons on everyone

[white lintel]

Depends on if you can reasonably clear w5 or 6 with it active
General flow is to use VR as a Mk boost and a big aoe
If you can’t do w5 or 6 use VR on big portal maps like w1 tree, w3 mustaches and stuff like that

[inner forum]

i see pictures with people with say 60% tome or higher number, is that actually a thing? i feel like i didnt see a number till i hit 50%

[cold wraith]

updated so it goes to 95%

[inner forum]

ah, so i just had my 50 before that updated then

[white lintel]

Reading patch notes tends to help with confusion regarding game mechanics that are different than how you remember them

[inner forum]

i do read them SOME times, like i read the full trading one,

[lone swan]

ok thanks

[north compass]

so many boxes

[inner forum]

will you stil get the rose for opening 500 even though event over?

[white lintel]

Let’s find out

Assuming they’re opening them rn

[inner forum]

i had the extra gems so i was an idiot and bought the rose, so i guess i never got the rose from boxes because of that

[white lintel]

Ah rip

That’s unfortunate

[inner forum]

wait no, i bought purple one, unsure why i didnt get red one