midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[zenith hare]

somewhere

[jolly kiln]

hes too strong for w6

[atomic fable]

You might've noticed I can upgrade it, but I'm not upgrading it because of greenstacks

[spiral mango]

should i get the mega fish

from poppy

[zenith hare]

always

[jolly kiln]

yea but make sure u get those points up a bit b4 u do

[spiral mango]

i need dementia armor and i dont have much use for platinum rn

[jolly kiln]

to juice cooking up I need to kill 1m+ all mobs

[jolly kiln]

need? I beat w3 w/o armor

[spiral mango]

my massa k10 said to get dementia armor

[jolly kiln]

thats a bit overkill

[zenith hare]

well whoever said that is just wrong

[jolly kiln]

I got by w/ copper pre vault

got by w/ literally nothing post vault

[zenith hare]

and amarok is all you need anyways

[spiral mango]

nooo he is pro

[zenith hare]

uh huh

[astral lava]

Sup Beanie

[jolly kiln]

hes going overkill for what he needs

[zenith hare]

and how much damage does he have?

[spiral mango]

like 30 trillion

[jolly kiln]

2nd level 11 tomarrow

[atomic fable]

You only need amarok for w3

[astral lava]

That's like midgame

[spiral mango]

idk ask him @turbid stag how much dmg u got

[jolly kiln]

He said dimentia bc thats what people used to go for in w3

[spiral mango]

i made up that number ion know shit 😭

[jolly kiln]

when it was the last world

[spiral mango]

this game is going to give me dementia

[astral lava]

Keilen wouldn't have 30T

[spiral mango]

if i go into world 4 then i have to use my brain more and figure out what to do 😭

[jolly kiln]

so ur like me

yea take it slower then

learn the mechanics itll reduce overwhelm

[spiral mango]

no im just procrastinating

[astral lava]

SB and below lv 600? Sheeeshhh

[odd obsidian]

don't worry i have zero clue what i'm ever doing 💖

[zenith hare]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[zenith hare]

youll also have to remake the dementia set

[spiral mango]

dementia armor kinda easy tho ngl

[spiral mango]

mmm true

[zenith hare]

it isnt till like mid w4

[spiral mango]

how

[jolly kiln]

I wont need it till w5

[zenith hare]

bars being the main reason

[jolly kiln]

but I have larger alch than most do at my world

[zenith hare]

and considering you need to get it on every sinle main char

[atomic fable]

I know this is a bit undergeared (This is my beast master)

[zenith hare]

eww

[odd obsidian]

those rings.. that pendant..

[atomic fable]

but it wasn't until w6 where I finally got lustre bow

[zenith hare]

plat armour

[odd obsidian]

just go attend happy hours bro

[spiral mango]

how do i get a bigger fishing sample

[zenith hare]

and yeah go to slime map and kill the boss

[jolly kiln]

theres multiple things youll need

[zenith hare]

more str, more eff, more afk%, more apm, better odds at getting said fish you want to sample

[zenith hare]

and that yes

[jolly kiln]

eff, str, afk %, speed from boost food

[atomic fable]

I can probably get most characters to void gear

[jolly kiln]

oh and prowess bonus when u can get that

its from Post office tho

[zenith hare]

okay im done with wows now

[spiral mango]

360 strength and 14.6k efficiecny im coooked on fishing

[turbid stag]

I mean I get some but not too much, I am still mid-game

[jolly kiln]

not horrible

whats ur sample % at?

[zenith hare]

tbh pretty respectible

[spiral mango]

uh like 20

[astral lava]

No u arent mid-game, please don't be midgame

[atomic fable]

Should I try to get my characters to void armour?

[spiral mango]

i dont have royal sampler yet

[astral lava]

PLEASE

[atomic fable]

or wait until I can reliably get troll

[zenith hare]

he's mid game

[jolly kiln]

you can up that a bit through some sources too

it affects all samples caps at 90%

[turbid stag]

I still need to max sailing, cooking, farming work on some other stuff

[astral lava]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-no-disappear-sad-noob-gif-24308846

[atomic fable]

would you guys say I'm probably still early game?

[spiral mango]

how so

[zenith hare]

yes

[spiral mango]

i got the sample stamp but that costs like 59185 void to upgrade

[astral lava]

That means I'm not late-game?

[jolly kiln]

w3 merits gets a bit a stamp that isnt super needed yet

[zenith hare]

imo late game is havig sheet QQ damage, or smth

[jolly kiln]

royal sampler is the big one

later once ur salts are stablized

you can get some from salt lick

[spiral mango]

which dude said i needed more stamps again?

[astral lava]

Wasn't it finishing w6 maps?

[zenith hare]

no one has ever said that

[jolly kiln]

me

[north root]

is there any list for all the meals unlock recipe?

[spiral mango]

my stamps are cooking idk what broo was yapping about fr

[odd obsidian]

samples having a hard cap is such a shame 💔

[zenith hare]

thats too easy to do

[jolly kiln]

your stamp lvl should be about 700-800 where ur at

[zenith hare]

the wiki has it all

[astral lava]

It was

[jolly kiln]

not 550

[north root]

ok thanks

[spiral mango]

*A)YSIDHAOSKDBASD HOW

[spiral mango]

oh total level

[jolly kiln]

more individual stamps

[spiral mango]

what stamps can i get easy

[jolly kiln]

I dont know but Ive had this for a while

[astral lava]

Depends on what u neglect

[jolly kiln]

I go for all lmao

[odd obsidian]

bean what do i spend my gilded stamps on

[tame flame]

does the auto collect trap from rift give card too?

[atomic fable]

That a bit better?

[zenith hare]

carry cap is always nice

[spiral mango]

pffft i havent neglected anything

[dense pine]

thats like starting mid game at best lol

[odd obsidian]

well theres carry cap, crystal spawn chance and liquid regen rate on my todo list

[jolly kiln]

oh wow

I didnt realize it was nearly 8 now

wanna see this dudes gear lord?

[spiral mango]

i could get bigger stamp levels but the amount of items i cna carry is so low

[cobalt rampart]

can someone explain to me why this prayer takes away total def/acc but doesnt grant total dmg

[surreal bane]

is gaming is like breeding ?

[jolly kiln]

stamps help w/ this too

[zenith hare]

cause its additive damage

[spiral mango]

give the man some clothes

[cobalt rampart]

shouldnt total be a multiplier

[zenith hare]

it adds to all ur other damage bonuses

[jolly kiln]

Hed only do +1m dmg if I did

no increase in multikill anywhere for that

[zenith hare]

no as there is other sources of total damage

[cobalt rampart]

sadness it gets drowned out i guess

[jolly kiln]

yknow this was to prove a point that gear isnt always worth it

weapons are usually worth it Im just lazy

[spiral mango]

why your damage 8 mil and other guy 8 quadrillion

😔😔😔

[zenith hare]

cause they arent as progressed

[jolly kiln]

im in w4

[dense pine]

[zenith hare]

its true yknow

[jolly kiln]

he was pushing dimentia in w3

[spiral mango]

bro it was good idea

[dense pine]

im moreso disagreeing with weapon>armour

[jolly kiln]

it sucked all your resourced that couldve been put into like iron or gold gear

[zenith hare]

weapon is better then armour

[jolly kiln]

it kinda is for a while

[zenith hare]

WP scales damage quite well early on, and attack speed is great if you active

[jolly kiln]

once u got dmg then armor>weapon

but yea

[zenith hare]

armour gives...well mostly defence. which is useless. its the main stats you want

[jolly kiln]

then multikill comes in and makes weapon better again for aw hile

[dense pine]

yea early on but in w4 or 5 by then main stat should already be better

[jolly kiln]

its still worse for me

Ive tried w/ full gold on 1 dude

[zenith hare]

and by then you can easily make the armour too with little to no effort

[jolly kiln]

the maestro I gave it to another char temp

it was minimal

tho w/ these

all stat is becoming valued much more

[dense pine]

exactly, armour (besides troll) is fairly easy to make

weapons are expensive asf

[jolly kiln]

imma get this lvl 7 tmrow for funzies

[zenith hare]

ehh

[atomic fable]

Capped by salts, but got my SB up to ice bow

[jolly kiln]

this one but bc I need more of these

I just remembered this is an achievement

guess it comes packaged w/ it for free

[spiral mango]

ok i upgraded my stamps a bit

[jolly kiln]

I cant believe I didnt get this yet

[jolly kiln]

I cant see it ss your www.idleonefficiency as the public only updates manually once per 4 hrs

[spiral mango]

what was the total level before

[jolly kiln]

570 ish

587

I got the snapshot up now

btw @spiral mango this one is pretty nice if u can get glass

[spiral mango]

how do i make the page update

[atomic fable]

This might be 1 I can work on with ES?

[spiral mango]

nvm

[jolly kiln]

thats better

still weak but better

those missing stamps

are holding you back on that front

[spiral mango]

bro idk how to get shit

[jolly kiln]

this one is easy to get

[spiral mango]

also i got 3 glass shards

[jolly kiln]

this is a rare drop from w2 or w3 mobs

thats how i got so much

this one is hard to get early on I only got it bc my multikill is high enough to make it not horribly painful

easyish

[spiral mango]

where do u get this

[jolly kiln]

youll get these 2 when u do your multikill

[jolly kiln]

it says it its from xxx cattleprod

first or 2nd quest

the pain of starting a new worlds deathnote

~100% from base
~150% from bubble helping out thats a w4 bubble tho

[dense pine]

i feel like you shouldnt be atm lol

[brave cove]

why do the jellyfish make the most annoying death noise ever

[jolly kiln]

eh Im having fun and getting my barb juiced damage

[brave cove]

someone slamming a fucking piano every time one dies

[dense pine]

fair enough

doing zows on barb?

[jolly kiln]

yea just zows

Ill do chows after

[dense pine]

cause youtr playing with sound on for some reason

[jolly kiln]

bc zows make chows easier

hes done 99% of my deathnote solo

[dense pine]

yea youll want lots more multikill first lol

[jolly kiln]

I have 42% per tier for w1 deathnote

[spiral mango]

this is hard

respawn time so long bru

[jolly kiln]

archer makes it easier

[dense pine]

damage then.

42% aint too bas

[jolly kiln]

you kill mafios first then sand castles then mafios

[spiral mango]

im on archer

[brave cove]

is it not normal to be playing the game with sound

[jolly kiln]

I play w/ sound on

[brave cove]

how else would i know if my next portal is open or not

[jolly kiln]

tho enemy sounds are low

[zenith hare]

eyes

[dense pine]

most people just have the game in the background lol

[brave cove]

i could also be doing something else

[dense pine]

you check the screen every few hrs

[brave cove]

not optimal enough i have to open the next area asap

[dense pine]

if youre doing something else the noise wont matter lol

[jolly kiln]

whats ur movespeed % it might be too hard for now

[brave cove]

it wouldn't if the noise wasn't so obvious

this is a piano slam every death

[jolly kiln]

oh

its one of those mobs

I get ur feeling I just dont active afk

[odd obsidian]

wow what a unit

[brave cove]

i'm playing es pushing actively

[dense pine]

then youre not doing something important and can afford to check with eyes.

[jolly kiln]

blurry char pains me

[spiral mango]

i got it

[dense pine]

or just do whatever

[brave cove]

this literally wasn't a problem until this enemy specifically

[odd obsidian]

its just because idleon has a low pixel count on characters

[jolly kiln]

I prefer it w/o the blur

I cant focus on their location w/ it on

and its jarring juxtaposition

[odd obsidian]

no blur hurts me physically

[brave cove]

i started the game with no blur so i'm used to it now

[brave cove]

the blur just makes the game even more low res

[jolly kiln]

the difference

[brave cove]

as if the game isn't already low res enough lmao

[dense pine]

yea idk how people play with blur

[jolly kiln]

I like a consistent resolution or atleast pixel size godamn

[brave cove]

sad that the game doesn't have proper resolution scaling

game looks much sharper in a smaller window but i prefer maximised

[jolly kiln]

same

blur looks good

on smol window

bad on beeg window(how i play)

[spiral mango]

fuck this game im going to sleep

[brave cove]

real

so close to w5

[spiral mango]

im shit at this game and im proud

[jolly kiln]

My maestro is about to be top catching

by the time I get the final "late w3" stamp

[jolly kiln]

fair

but if ur here your usually here for help or to help out

honestly for you, multikill, multidrop, and sample rate are your biggest problems

[spiral mango]

whoever made this game is psychotic

[jolly kiln]

stamps and alchemy help patch up those problems pretty well

[jolly kiln]

No its just a different type of person to play it

[spiral mango]

lmao

[wispy narwhal]

guys i want to make 10th character, what should i make? ( already have vman , 2 dk and 2 es)

[spiral mango]

you see, bsck in my day...

[jolly kiln]

this game requires 2 things patience and a slow gaining of understanding

[spiral mango]

Idk if you ever heard of hypixel sky block

[jolly kiln]

blindly following a guide wont get you far eventually

[spiral mango]

I no lifed farming in that shit so hard

[jolly kiln]

yes Ive played it, it became unfun after a while

[spiral mango]

at one point when I was close to 100 mil potato collection

[jolly kiln]

bc it just becomes people following a meta

[spiral mango]

I had my a key binder to my mouse side button

[jolly kiln]

w/ idleon I dont have a constant chat feed about people going pure meta

[spiral mango]

and I taped my hand to my mouse

[jolly kiln]

at best I get people trying to understand it(which is more fun) than blindly follow ameta someone else found

[spiral mango]

and sat there for 12+ hours

[odd obsidian]

𝐼𝓇𝑜𝓃𝓂𝒶𝓃

[jolly kiln]

that was me

[odd obsidian]

the best way to play any mmo

if you follow the metas, you will get annoyed and you will get burnt

[jolly kiln]

I played ironman bc I could ignore the playerbase being a metaslave

[spiral mango]

my iron man profile has 2000 hours of my life wasted

[jolly kiln]

thats how I ended up restarting idleon and actually enjoying it

[odd obsidian]

the best fun is wandering without any meta in mind, getting what you want to get

[jolly kiln]

yea but there is a point where your shooting yourself in the foot

like getting armor 3 tiers higher than what you need

especialyl since it seems he wants his samples up that armor aint gonna help

[odd obsidian]

if your dreams are within reason

[spiral mango]

personally it's hard for me to play a game without a sense of progression

like for elden ring I followed a walk through lol

[jolly kiln]

this is eivl

[jolly kiln]

this game has a sense of progression when u try to understand it from w1 up

instead of w6 down(how alot of people play then end up like you)

[spiral mango]

fuck this game

[odd obsidian]

mmos have progression that gets broader and broader as you level up

[spiral mango]

its giving me dementia irl 🔥 🔥

[odd obsidian]

idleon is just about the same in this matter

[jolly kiln]

yea its just bc people push worlds so fast it gets broader and broader really fast

[spiral mango]

my idea of most mmmorpgs is wander around until you find something to work towards then kill things for hours

[odd obsidian]

exactly

[jolly kiln]

I could easily go to w6 but I wont

[wispy narwhal]

guys i want to make 10th character, what should i make? ( already have vman , 2 dk and 2 es)

[jolly kiln]

bc its unfun andruins my sense of progress

[spiral mango]

the only game I could truly play fully was skyrim

goated game

[jolly kiln]

have you heard of the legend of the fork of Reanu keeves?

[spiral mango]

what is that name 😭

keanu reeeeves

[jolly kiln]

wanna see its stats?

[spiral mango]

tthat the guy who plays john wick

[jolly kiln]

this is the fork

well one of them

made w/o cheats

[spiral mango]

I haven't played sky rim in years ngl

[jolly kiln]

skyrim is a buggy mess

also its progression is overly snappy (fast) at times leading to you overpowering everything b4 u actually need that level of power

[spiral mango]

I had like 3 wives

[spiral mango]

yea but imo it works sorta

sky rim was really good for when it wss released

[jolly kiln]

Its not my type of game personally

[jolly kiln]

its still good

[spark granite]

how do i make them start going and making the cogs

nothing is happening

[jolly kiln]

they are its just slow bc they are low leveled

[spiral mango]

I didn't follow the meta tbh which was like daedelus armor

[jolly kiln]

Id put them on the main boartd for a bit

[spark granite]

is there a way to see the rate

[jolly kiln]

its the same as your build rate

on that char

[spiral mango]

sky rim was cool in that you could really go and do whatever and you would still end up progressing and getting high tier armor / weapons

like the dark brotherhood or thieves guild

[spark granite]

so youre saying dont worry about making a cog rn

[jolly kiln]

idleon this happens to an extent but overextending is a real thing that can bottleneck your progress

[jolly kiln]

yea not quite yet

[spiral mango]

you have to wait it's making them

[jolly kiln]

get them like lvl 4 or 5

[spiral mango]

oh

[jolly kiln]

then put em on that itll be more reasonable speed

[jolly kiln]

btw if u need more sample rate really badly u can get some via vials

Yea I havnt leveled this yet Ive been getting my other vials to level 4

nearly all unlocked are lvl 4 or higher

[spark granite]

i dont exactly understand how this works its been running for like 5 hours and it hasnt made anything

[fluid apex]

can someone help me understand why my 3d printer isnt registering the lab upgrade even though i clearly have it connected

i have harriep linked to all of my chars, and am using pocket div to make them all remotely connected to the lab

[jolly kiln]

click refine to maek it

[jolly kiln]

its made 10 and if ur cap production is low dont let it hit max

[spark granite]

ah ok

should i turn on auto refine

[spiral mango]

oka

[zenith hare]

ehhh

[jolly kiln]

I t hink it is but gold shows over it

[spiral mango]

teehee

[zenith hare]

red should always rank up no matter what

[zenith hare]

smol stats

[jolly kiln]

yea but not for long

[zenith hare]

go enchbug it

[fluid apex]

isnt it supposed to show purple if both bonuses are active?

[spark granite]

ok

[jolly kiln]

Im unsure ask meme bean

[zenith hare]

yes but it sometimes visually doesn't like to show

[jolly kiln]

max a day or 2 while u get samples unlocked

[zenith hare]

it's only a visual bug

[jolly kiln]

then u can idle salts

[spiral mango]

I got 671 on daedelus sword with grind stone

[spark granite]

im still building 3d printer

[jolly kiln]

yea then leave it on auto till you passive produce those 2

[fluid apex]

this is the part where i start having sleep demons wake me up telling me my printer isnt printing 6x resources

[jolly kiln]

then never again(youll need to check it lke once a day or 2 to claim em when it says rank up)

[zenith hare]

do you have doot? and if so is everyone divinity level 2 or higher

[jolly kiln]

manual refine pre 3d printer is just not worth it

[fluid apex]

i don't have doot, and everyone is above lv2 div

[spark granite]

so this is good as is rn ?

[jolly kiln]

0% = manual refine btw

[zenith hare]

everyone linked via hole bonus?

[jolly kiln]

yea you can put at 10% if u want just not 0

[spark granite]

but i should have auto refine for right now

[jolly kiln]

yea your good

[spark granite]

ok bet ty

[jolly kiln]

Just remember to make it auto once u got those 2 resources printing(2 or 3 chars unlocked 3d printer)

[spark granite]

wdym make it auto

[jolly kiln]

I mean manual

[spark granite]

oh ok

[jolly kiln]

im really tired rn I swapped em sorry

[fluid apex]

the hole is giving them Goharut and Arctis while they're all manually linked to Harriep

[spark granite]

why what does manual deo for me

[jolly kiln]

Im gonna go to bed soon

[jolly kiln]

manual if u wait lets u rank it up

[spark granite]

ah ok

[jolly kiln]

just the cost scale

[zenith hare]

okay that's weird, normally it's only buggy via ES second link, hole bonus, or doot. never main link

[jolly kiln]

isnt good when u literally produce none passive

[zenith hare]

noted

[fluid apex]

even IE is showing it

[zenith hare]

no that's normal

[fluid apex]

ah, fair enough

[zenith hare]

I think

[fluid apex]

let me go check IT, and see what it says

[zenith hare]

yeah mines like it too

[fluid apex]

IT says the bonus is working, so i guess i should just leave it be?

[zenith hare]

yeah just means its visual~

[fluid apex]

lava out here giving me nightmares about my printer

[zenith hare]

spooky

[stable crane]

This game is insane (in an awesome way). I've just hit w4 guys. Is there a meta for chucking my guys into lab for a period of time? Or ignore it for now and keep progressing?

[merry rover]

is there a way to get shinys asap

[crude moat]

Get elite classes one at a time everyone else in lab

[stable crane]

Awesome. Thank you @crude moat

[fluid apex]

if only i had known this, i sat there with every character i had in the lab until they all hit 20

[stable crane]

And they just gain xp for being uploaded?

[rare glacier]

how do i increase max book limit in library?

[crude moat]

Yes it is afk

[stable crane]

Does it show the xp rate anywhere for it?

[crude moat]

Afk info

[stable crane]

Aha! Thank you

I guess money income will slow down for a bit

Ooo but printing speed is sick

These mechanics are so sick

[brave cove]

now how do i collect 20k power statues...

[odd obsidian]

do you have the chocolate chip?

[eager laurel]

choco chip and active dk, or long time active dk

with good crystal spawn %

[brave cove]

nope, gotta wait until april for that rotation

[odd obsidian]

active farming power statues might have to wait then

[brave cove]

welp

is dk or es better for farming them then

so far i've had es give me better crystal spawns

[odd obsidian]

dk is used for crystal farming because his orb affects the rare drop table

or so i presume.

[brave cove]

that makes sense but doesn't wormhole also affect dr?

[odd obsidian]

either way he clears the map insanely fast, revives the mobs insanely quickly and basically makes it automatic if you have 2 knights

wormhole doesn't spawn crystals and its only for the main drops

youll get higher amounts of spore caps from farming with es than with dk

as well as bolt cutters, spore tees, etc.

[brave cove]

yeah neither does dk orb but it spawns more enemies which lead to more kills which lead to crystal spawns, and wormhole kills give you more dr or smth

[odd obsidian]

but you'll get little from the rare drop table

[odd obsidian]

what i mean is that wormhole mobs dont spawn crystals

and even if they did spawn crystals those crystals wouldnt be affected by the wormhole drop rate

i havent seen a crystal come out of my es' wormhole

[brave cove]

do wormhole enemies not spawn crystals?

[odd obsidian]

nope

[brave cove]

you get crystals by killing enemies so on the surface es seems better

[odd obsidian]

on the surface es seems better but the wormhole mobs don't spawn crystals and dk allows you to get more drops from the crystals you do spawn

[brave cove]

have i been misunderstanding how wormhole works

not that it spawns crystals, but only mobs that spawn from wormholes give the extra exp and dr?

[odd obsidian]

for every kill of the wormhole you get +X% drop rate on the mobs that spawn from it

[brave cove]

ahhhhhhh

not the non wormhole mobs

[odd obsidian]

not the non wormhole mobs indeed

[brave cove]

ok i see then

well doesn't matter, not like i need onyx statues right now anyway

oh btw does the quest consume the statues

i mean i could just look it up on the wiki

[odd obsidian]

yep and it turns your power statue onyx

[brave cove]

ok makes sense

[odd obsidian]

you'd be better off farming crystals for statues than carrotmen;

the multiple statues like mining, chopping and boost food you'll get from it will be very helpful

[brave cove]

what exactly do onyx statues do

[sleek stone]

give more bonus

[brave cove]

sounds about right

[sleek stone]

also an op bonus since it would increase with lantern from artifact later

[odd obsidian]

2x bonus + 10% more statues per onyx statue deposited

[stable crane]

Guys I've read and watched some videos but still not clear - what does placing a pet in the 'fence yard' do?

[odd obsidian]

2.30-3.20 if you get the onyx lantern from the final sailing island

[thorny zinc]

just unlocked this guy

[merry rover]

can someone give me the refinery cycle chart thingy

for infinite refinery and stuff

[sleek stone]

if you didnt have doot the green one are good

[thorny zinc]

yeah probably the best one to invest

[sleek stone]

yeah after that blue 3 or 4 to get second link to god

[thorny zinc]

so everyone is already linked to artic so if i conjure now everyone will be linked to the snake too?

[odd obsidian]

yes

you can change it at any time anyway

[thorny zinc]

oh thats good to know

damn then this guy is op

[odd obsidian]

very

issue is that he only gets one point per level up so his bonuses will take a while

[thorny zinc]

i usually go for 2-1 ration between the explorer and engineer but now that i unlocked him i will prob go for 2-1-1

[sleek stone]

you could trade your gems for his point later

[keen hornet]

what should i use gems on first? more card slots?

[wheat cove]

how many mega feathers should i get?

[thorny zinc]

at least 11

[wheat cove]

k.

[thorny zinc]

damn these upgrades are interesting i should keep my gems from now on

it will save some time

[dusty harness]

2x xp for explorer is nice

[wheat cove]

whats the best AFK pusher again? was it ES?

[thorny zinc]

nah dk and es are for active farming

prob blood berserker

[wheat cove]

k.

[thorny zinc]

im not 100% sure tho

[wheat cove]

funny, extendo rangeo is always active

(realizes almost all passive skills are always active)

[thorny zinc]

i mean thats why are called passive

[wheat cove]

yeah ig.

[eager laurel]

i mean just look at who gets more kph

it depends on where and how ur characters are build

[thorny zinc]

i hate cogs so much

[scenic vessel]

why isn't the number going up anymore?

[fathom timber]

what are the 20 items I should greenstack for equinox?

[dusty harness]

logs and ores

[dusty harness]

just kill them and eventually it will be complete

[stable crane]

Guys any suggestions on who should be the primary cooker? I've followed the general conensus for classes so far, 7th char is a Squire/DK

[floral crest]

Find the missing spots without a tail

[thorny zinc]

blood berserker probably

[scenic vessel]

this is my screen

[thorny zinc]

try filling first platform in the far left?

i think thats the spot

i just did the quest and i had no trouble

[brave cove]

i get it now

my es isn't even in lab so i'm not doubling that 157k

[fathom timber]

is there any use to spices after unlocking that isn't upgrading the cooking slots?

[dreamy shard]

is this a "shiny" ?

[fathom timber]

I just made 2.7k to 75k

[thorny zinc]

yes

[thorny zinc]

yes you can upgrade bubbles too

one of the best bubbles in the game

[fathom timber]

thx

[scenic vessel]

anyone see any empty spots, my eyesight is bad despite having glasses

[cloud drift]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[thorny zinc]

use #bot-commands for these please

[thorny zinc]

maybe second platform far left?

[scenic vessel]

thx I got it now

[cloud drift]

oh ofc, mb

[gusty herald]

What's the best way to spend these points

I have 135

[keen hornet]

progressing through w3 and i just discovered placing flags to unlock more spots in construction. i don't recall this ever being shown in-game. are there any other unstated things like this?

[west pilot]

I recall it on the town tutorial tbh

[west pilot]

Me when reading

[thorny zinc]

there is a tab in codex called tips

i would love to see a player that doesn't read advancing in farming

122 more cards and i max this

[west pilot]

Why not 121

[fair trench]

Then you just have to ruby once you unlock it in rift

[thorny zinc]

wait wdym can you get 5* cardifiers from rift???

[fair trench]

You unlock the ability to make them 5 star naturally

[thorny zinc]

ohhh

damnnn i didnt know that

[west pilot]

Rift 46

[thorny zinc]

i didnt even completed the first one💀

[fair trench]

Rift can be pretty tough, so no need to rush it

[atomic grove]

Is bubo kph gemerally low?

My other char with equal level and worse gear somehow had more kph than my bubo

[thorny zinc]

i think yes cuz you usually play it actively

[atomic grove]

[brave cove]

wait for royal sampler do i have to delete all my samples to unequip it

fuck me

[shadow lark]

That is indeed what it says on the prayer

[brave cove]

i was hoping remove meant not print anything but deleting the samples makes sense

[odd obsidian]

and you always keep it on considering the exp loss is additive

[brave cove]

oh ok then

[modern narwhal]

does wisdom boost efficieny for lab?

[thorny zinc]

if you mean that wisdom improves lab efficiency the answer is no

[modern narwhal]

is wisdom stat useful at all for lab

[modern narwhal]

ohhh

thank you

[thorny zinc]

no problem

if you want to unlock more buffs in the lab you just need to level up your lab level on every character

[thorny zinc]

and you can also get this

by combining spices

[fair trench]

Just gotta keep upgrading meals

[thorny zinc]

https://www.idleonefficiency.com/world-4/cooking you can also use this for the recipes

why not?

[chilly gyro]

use it

[thorny zinc]

pff

[fair trench]

It's safe

Dont worry

[thorny zinc]

its just tells you every recipes

no need to read too much

[low arrow]

Just match the spices 😂

[fair trench]

You can also go to wiki, but its just annoying

[dusty harness]

or just use the wiki

[fair trench]

IE is much better

[thorny zinc]

and about idleon efficiency, IT and IE lava said they are safe i think

[dusty harness]

IT doesnt show recipe for some reason

[fair trench]

Its annoying cus IT is so much better

[chilly gyro]

your opinion but others use it

[dusty harness]

pick your poison ig

[fair trench]

I mean better than wiki

[thorny zinc]

yeah i find it better than the rest of them

[merry halo]

Why do i get birthday card

[chilly gyro]

lvl up

[inner shoal]

can someone explain what fire time actually does? i see nothing mentioned in game

[thorny zinc]

its lava's birthday

[merry halo]

For how long it will last

[chilly gyro]

forever

[thorny zinc]

im joking its just a bubble

[chilly gyro]

its a chance to get when leveling up anything

[merry halo]

Oh

Ok thx for leting me know

[inner shoal]

someone elp ;-;

[low arrow]

Every time you lvl up you can get many things the common one is birthday card

[dusty harness]

be a real man and play without any help

[thorny zinc]

its annoying but def worth it

[dusty harness]

basically increases your chance of getting a new meal

[inner shoal]

only takes a couple irl days and u can do 1/2 active when bear

[dusty harness]

the hole will be the end of you

[thorny zinc]

real

the funny hole

[low arrow]

Fire time is the total time tp get another recipe,the more the less time needed

So if you have fire on 0 and a meal needs 12hours upgrading it can take less

[stable crane]

Guys is any class specific for breeding?

[dusty harness]

after div and lab jail you'll have to do it because of how good the bonuses are

[dusty harness]

beast master, hunter elite class

[stable crane]

Gah ignore me

Thanks Memorius. I was slow on the wiki this time

[fair trench]

Interesting take

[thorny zinc]

dont think playing blind is a good choice

you can make mistakes that can take months to fix

[fair trench]

IE and IT just helps you manage your acount better

[thorny zinc]

xdd

[stable crane]

@dusty harness and if I can ask - what does the 'fence yard' do specifically? Can't really make it out from the wiki description

[thorny zinc]

can you show me your refinery please?

like the ranks

[dusty harness]

you put your breedability pets into it (and later shinies), after awhile they will increase the chance of unlocking a new pet

[thorny zinc]

i will wait dw

[stable crane]

Ah I don't have any breedability pets yet. I've put some random ones in - will they just do nothing really while in there?

Should i trash them instead for dna stuff?

[dusty harness]

so for example if you have beans and you want to unlock the next pet, if you put the breedability bean in the fenceyard over time it will increases the chance of unlocking the next pet (seen in the breedability multi)

[dusty harness]

you'll unlock them later with an upgrade, they have a pink bg

[stable crane]

Ah perfect - very clear thanks Memorius

[dusty harness]

np

[thorny zinc]

new artefact

[dusty harness]

also lets pretend this is a w3-w4 thing

[thorny zinc]

yeah yeah its from goldric

[fathom timber]

what can I make to pushy my ladles/h strongly?

[dusty harness]

bb with cooking shoes

[thorny zinc]

can you press the show rank?

[fair trench]

Ladle stamp

[thorny zinc]

...

i think you are kinda cooked

[dusty harness]

saltlocked at its finest

[thorny zinc]

you should stop ranking up the orange and blue and start ranking your red as much as you can

xdd

[cloud flicker]

no way

[thorny zinc]

i mean you can fix it but it will take a LOT of time

[cloud flicker]

takes time

[dusty harness]

i was saltlocked once too, took like 3 months to fix

my blue was the same lv as my orange

its called not knowing how refinery works

literally just ranked up the highest tier as high as i can

[calm skiff]

Later on you get a lot of boosts to Ref, also Omniphau/Doot

You don't "need" him just keep Omniphau as your second link on all your characters

[shadow trout]

is anyone getting a bunch of twin ore stamp drops

I want to turn them off in the codex but they don't show up on any drop table, wiki says sheepie but i wasn't fighting sheepie and its not on their table

[calm skiff]

Always do the lower % until you get a 100% on the higher % for div.

[dusty harness]

have you turned them in yet?

[shadow trout]

yeah to both

[dusty harness]

when in doubt cloud save and try again

[shadow trout]

there's a stamp i haven't unlocked in the rare drop but if i have the stamp it wouldn't be blacked out still

[ripe prism]

What are must have prints for early game I feel like i'm giga lost on what to focus on in 3d print

[dusty harness]

refinery mats first and foremost

[wheat cove]

should i spend time candies to push my siegebreaker thats alredy at the jello map.

or, do i spend time candies to push my DK or ES that are at the evil genie map?

[dusty harness]

whoever has more kph

[wheat cove]

k.

[alpine scarab]

prob shdnt spend time candy for first few map only last3 maps i think

[wheat cove]

hahahahahahahaha

[cedar urchin]

how is mine (idk what im really doing w this)

[odd obsidian]

no deficit, it's good

[echo radish]

Why are they off

[thorny zinc]

yep its good

[odd obsidian]

probably doesnt print enough to upkeep them though

[cedar urchin]

should i just turn everything on

[odd obsidian]

can you afford the resource cost?

[cedar urchin]

i probably could if i reprint some stuff

[thorny zinc]

then yes

[echo radish]

The idea is that you always want them all on at all times

[odd obsidian]

you'll need a lot of salt later on so the earlier the better

[cedar urchin]

mm okie

will do

[thorny zinc]

follow these and you will be 100% fine

[echo radish]

First one is kinda bad

[cedar urchin]

oo i will save these images

[echo radish]

Also make sure to have green and red salts always ranking up

[solid bough]

can you guys pls explain to me, does orb still work if i change location, or does it resets? do im fine with only squere talent icon in corner, or i have to have orb monument itself?

[cedar urchin]

[echo radish]

Reset

[solid bough]

so, it still works, but number just goes to zero, and i dont actually have to keep that monument with number on screen?
ty ty, now its better for me

[echo radish]

No, the effect doesn't work if you change map, you need to be able to see it

[solid bough]

oh, so to be clear, every time i go to colo, i need wait my orb talent refresh and put it inside?

[cedar urchin]

does this button make it so it doesnt rank the salt up if i dont check on it after a long time

[echo radish]

Afaik, yes

[odd obsidian]

yes

[solid bough]

lame

[thorny zinc]

yes

[echo radish]

Yes

[cedar urchin]

ohh ok that makes a lot of sense now

[thorny zinc]

so never auto refine red and green

[cedar urchin]

[echo radish]

This is only good if you want to fix ur salt ranks or if u plan on leaving the game running for a while without checking it

[thorny zinc]

one month is probably not enough but good luck

[echo radish]

If u have doot/pocket divinity then it's gonna be easy af

[odd obsidian]

if you don't have omniphau active it WILL take more than a month

omniphau and arctis for best results

[echo radish]

Go unlock pocket divinity then?

[odd obsidian]

you should have access to pocket divinity

[cedar urchin]

ngl i just been checking the game once a day cause ive just been afk at monument/lab/divinity

[west pilot]

Pocket divinity p2w fr

[odd obsidian]

a new perk from the caverns

[echo radish]

Conjurer bonus

[odd obsidian]

basically gives you 2 extra divinities

[echo radish]

Yooo hello

[west pilot]

[odd obsidian]

oh yes caverns

[echo radish]

Caverns are op for earlygame why would you say oh no

[odd obsidian]

you better interact with this piece of content or you're never getting really good upgrades

worry? just leave it in the back

its in the 3rd map

[thorny zinc]

no need to focus on them just check everyday

[west pilot]

Hole is like top prio with divinity

[odd obsidian]

send your best pusher to unlock the hole then just upgrade it when upgrades appear

[thorny zinc]

they are time gated so you cant really do much only to mine the rock

[west pilot]

Try reading

[odd obsidian]

reading would be a good idea

[thorny zinc]

thats scary

[odd obsidian]

its rough having to do stuff by ourselves without a guide

[dusty harness]

[thorny zinc]

being stubborn is not a bad thing but you could watch some guides so you wont make big mistakes

[odd obsidian]

theres not a lot of big mistakes to be made in the hole

[shadow lark]

book statues SUCK

[echo radish]

Hole is easy tbf, only hard thing is fucking justice I hate justice

[odd obsidian]

i hate w2 crystal farming 💔

[west pilot]

Harp can be a jumpscare

[odd obsidian]

what i'd do for slab

[thorny zinc]

without good crystal spawn rate and drop rate yeah its pretty impossible

but you will do it later

[echo radish]

As a person who did harp without a guide, it's easy af

[odd obsidian]

it hurts me just to have this obol eurgh

[echo radish]

Yummy

[west pilot]

Remember, idleon players

[thorny zinc]

use it on vman

[echo radish]

Ik I'm one too

[west pilot]

You do it for slab i do it for vman

[thorny zinc]

oh makes sense

[west pilot]

We are not the same

[odd obsidian]

wouldnt literally any other obol be better!!

[thorny zinc]

imagine playing idleon what a nerd

[odd obsidian]

well specifically multikill

[west pilot]

If it isn't gshop multikill i doubt

Hyper one

[odd obsidian]

what else would vman benefit from anyway

[west pilot]

Dr

[odd obsidian]

hes terrible at farming drops despite the whole luk based thing

[echo radish]

My dk is not even level 750 how can I be a nerd

[west pilot]

For boss farm

Base obol is multikill flat

Hyper is mkpt

[odd obsidian]

the sparkle obol for multikill only gives 10%

[west pilot]

And it's flat multikill

[odd obsidian]

yep

if it was multikill per tier it'd be downright busted but thats limited to the hyper obols

[west pilot]

Nah, he good farming bosses

[odd obsidian]

is he?

[west pilot]

Tell that to kruk

[echo radish]

Bruh why is 0.1% tome so hard

[odd obsidian]

hmmm what should i spend my conjurer points on

[echo radish]

What do u have unlocked

[odd obsidian]

essentially fresh out of unlocking and enhancing pocket div

[west pilot]

Measurer and monument multi are goats

[echo radish]

What elle said

[west pilot]

One is in red an the other in blue i believe

[odd obsidian]

well i havent unlocked measurer yet so i'll have to see about that one later

but monument bonuses sounds goated

[west pilot]

1st red is monument, 4th blue is measurer

[echo radish]

Oh then you might want to prio xp

[odd obsidian]

i havent created a lot of schematics

[thorny zinc]

the pain starts now

[echo radish]

That one is bad anyways, go for evry 10th opal invested one

[odd obsidian]

my explorer just reached the 10th opal

[echo radish]

No the pain starts when you need to get a billion of all on db

[wheat cove]

bruh, what is this drop rate?!?!??!

[odd obsidian]

propeller hat hehe

[thorny zinc]

true

[echo radish]

It's

[wheat cove]

wdym, whats your drop rates

[true hamlet]

1 in 1, just get on beginner

[west pilot]

Bro when he starts looking through w6 drop rates

[wheat cove]

😅 wdym........

[odd obsidian]

when he gets the suggma card and looks at the drops

[west pilot]

That's decent

[true hamlet]

Behold the mittens, unlocking + crafting lmao

[dusty harness]

vman weapon moment

[odd obsidian]

a small amount of dark lanterns

[echo radish]

low

[odd obsidian]

are you flying off into space with these

[dusty harness]

i expect by world 7 lava will increase vman weapon dr to 1 in 1 billion

[echo radish]

trying to, but they keep running out of power

[odd obsidian]

you need more

[wheat cove]

HUH?!??!

what is it right now??!??!??!

[west pilot]

🤓

[odd obsidian]

at 75 propeller hats you craft the propellest hat

and then you go to w7, which is the moon

[dusty harness]

mitten of the gods is at 200 mil iirc

[echo radish]

you need 100k of these

[dusty harness]

not to mention the lanterns

[wheat cove]

oh k, not as bad as i thought

when u play games that have 1 in 1T odds........

you will understand what i mean.......

[odd obsidian]

surely the games are not mindless slop

[echo radish]

the lanterns are the bad part

[dusty harness]

lava just loves vman

[wheat cove]

if i were to slap 1 in 100K odds with a +100% drop rate, then that means the drop will be 1 in 50K odds?

[dusty harness]

still remember the 100 and 200 hampters days

[echo radish]

those were good days

[west pilot]

Go gstack gcakes

[wheat cove]

remember progression before upgrade vault?

[west pilot]

Have fun with pearlers

[odd obsidian]

progression before vault: rush to w6

progression after vault: rush to w6

[dusty harness]

that extra 60% total dmg and 20% dr over the other godshard weapons is surely worth the 100k lantern

[odd obsidian]

i fear what warpium gear will bring

[brave cove]

how much tome score do i need before i start getting skill eff from it

[hexed shoal]

Next w7 weapon: you need 20 of these 1in200mil items to craft!

[dusty harness]

also it has 10% more dr

[west pilot]

Only 20?

Easy

[wheat cove]

what i thought XDDDDDDD

[split beacon]

is this broken?

[wheat cove]

how do u get ribbons aside from the valentines event?

[dusty harness]

db

and gemshop

[wheat cove]

db?

[dusty harness]

death bringer

[west pilot]

Don't tell me you have two BBs

[wheat cove]

oh k

[west pilot]

[cedar urchin]

this the best i can print for neow for the salt stuff

[split beacon]

ok

[thorny zinc]

thats okay for now you have better prints than me

[west pilot]

If you have 2 BBs it is bugged. You have to do schows on second one

[split beacon]

oh

[wheat cove]

i only make 500 copper per hour ;-;

[cedar urchin]

hehe okie time to slep, i am eepy i will see how the salt goes tomorrow

[split beacon]

will it ever be fixed?

[thorny zinc]

sleep well

[thorny zinc]

its ok you will improve your prints with time

unlocking royal sampler is a big improvement for example so you should go for that asap

[west pilot]

I think lava tried to, but it fucks the game code so, nope

[wheat cove]

how.

[dusty harness]

spaghetti moment

[thorny zinc]

wave 21 in acorn td

[wheat cove]

aight.

[split beacon]

so i'm fucked?

[wheat cove]

i used a tier 8 ribbon on egg, thoughts?

[thorny zinc]

dont use ribbons yet

eggs are important but not worth using ribbon

[dusty harness]

should have atleast saved it for cabbage

[wheat cove]

k.

i still have a 6, 7, 8, 10, and 11 ribbon

[thorny zinc]

btw ribbons can be upgraded after you used one by using another one of the same type?

[split beacon]

by the way is Library VIP ever going to matter?

[odd obsidian]

past the 5th talent no

i think lava just forgot about it

[dusty harness]

prob not unless lava for some reason comes back to it

[west pilot]

for vookarl

[odd obsidian]

wheres the other eye man

[west pilot]

there's no other

[odd obsidian]

you must make him see.

[brave cove]

the catching bar thing hasn't been implemented right?

[wheat cove]

just 1850 spaghetti left, and ill have the gemular rhombol

[split beacon]

how do i salt good?

I neglected world 3 a lot

[wheat cove]

alright, time to throw all my characters into W4 jail

[bitter zodiac]

Best meals to use 100k ladels on?

[split beacon]

cooking ladle

[bitter zodiac]

Yes

[west pilot]

Cooking speed

[split beacon]

probably banana idk

[west pilot]

Gfood bonus and the rest i up to you

[split beacon]

how are you fixing your account btw?

[west pilot]

By fixing

[split beacon]

because i need a lot of fixing

[west pilot]

Literally fixing most of the stuff

[toxic timber]

I have one of each of the base classes one extra blood berserker and one maestro so what should my ninth be?

[split beacon]

omg you have two blood berserkers?

[west pilot]

I would swap second BB to DK

[toxic timber]

what should my ninth be though?

[west pilot]

If you don't want to wait for meta to swap i would do ES/SB

[toxic timber]

Thanks

[west pilot]

If you want to wait Mage/Begginer or Mage/Archer

[split beacon]

Bub master class when?

[west pilot]

To not commit to elites

[wheat cove]

what dish should i get.

[zenith hare]

10th as sb has been utter trash since hole...

[west pilot]

Atleast get 2DKs

[zenith hare]

all of them

[brave cove]

how exactly does max hp boost mining eff

[west pilot]

You hated it even before hole so don't care

I had two BBs and it's garbage

[wheat cove]

the game loves to spam me with "alredy owned"

[west pilot]

Can only be saved if bones afk is decent

[zenith hare]

it had one use and it now no longer has that

[zenith hare]

and are you cooking a dish that has multiple recipes?

[west pilot]

Bb still Hot garbo

[wheat cove]

yes.

[zenith hare]

better then sb

[wheat cove]

wait, what

[west pilot]

Cap

[zenith hare]

and do you have all the recipes for the spice combo?

[west pilot]

The only way BB redeems as dupe is DB getting a good afk

[zenith hare]

name one thing bb can't do that sb can

[west pilot]

That's all

[split beacon]

hear me out

[wheat cove]

mmm, yeah

[zenith hare]

then you can't get anymore with the spice combo you're using

[wheat cove]

oh wait one sec, i havent read them right

[west pilot]

Not make your account stink

[zenith hare]

and you're saying second sb can do that?

10th being left as beginner is far better at that

[wheat cove]

what i meant to say was, ALL BUT 1 RECIPES IN A SPICE COMBO ISNT UNLOCKED AND IT KEEPS PICKING THE ONLY ONE IVE UNLOCKED 😭

[shadow lark]

at what %

[west pilot]

And i said it

[zenith hare]

it also says the chance

[zenith hare]

yes but still second bb (not db) is better then second sb even still

[ebon stone]

!merit4

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ Buy one point of spice spillage. This gives you up to a 20% chance to claim all your spices when claiming over an hour of afk gains. Since spices generate more slowly the more you have produced since last claim this will improve spice production.
2️⃣ Having more bubbles get upgraded each day will help a lot, especially when combined with buffs giving more levels per bubble. Only buy this if you can reach the No Bubble Left Behind node in the lab.
3️⃣ Egg capacity is limited and every time the hatchery fills up eggs are wasted until you unlock the rarity upgrade. Also helps you get two achievements with good rewards requiring egg capacity.
4️⃣ Allows you to connect to lab bonuses from slightly farther away which can reduce the number of characters needed in the lab. Note that the max distance between characters, which is called line width, doesn't increase.
5️⃣ Improves kills per hour in W4 but since you likely won't be pushing W4 portals for long this is relatively low priority.
6️⃣ Max level spice spillage triggers every time. They are lower priority since it takes a lot of star talent points and is likely to trigger several times in a row when checking multiple characters.
7️⃣ 3 crystal mobs per day is very little.
Unlocks the recipes for troll armor giving all stat% and the base for all further armor upgrades. It is great but require plenty of Nullo Salt. Don't buy it if you can't craft them.

[zenith hare]

the sb portion is the main problem

[west pilot]

I said that if he doesn't want to wait for meta to switch

That's all

[zenith hare]

then don't suggest anything if they don't follow the meta :3

[wheat cove]

lets see, 1.44 X new recipe luck

[west pilot]

Wtf are you yapping

[zenith hare]

not that

[split beacon]

respect your elders meme bean

[zenith hare]

I've been around here longer then them I think

[west pilot]

I offered two options, anticipate meta with mage/begginer or mage/archer

Or ignore that the meta is shifting and keep current order

Up to what he wants to do

[west pilot]

And you still a kid

[wheat cove]

if this picks spaghetti, i swear to god......

[zenith hare]

yeah and the current meta ignoring master classes is 2bb. it's no longer an option between bb and sb due to how nerfed second sb got

[west pilot]

As i said, 2BB would be decent if DB had good afk bones

[zenith hare]

hasn't been for like half a year

[zenith hare]

did you not read the "ignoring master classes" part?

before db, 2bb was the best

[west pilot]

Meta was 2BB then swapped to 2SB

[zenith hare]

no

[west pilot]

Okay dude

[zenith hare]

it has never been 100% only 2 sb

[split beacon]

Next meta

[west pilot]

10 bms

[zenith hare]

before it was 2 bb or 2 sb

[split beacon]

10 bub

[zenith hare]

hole made 2 sb trash

db ≠ dk

[west pilot]

I've seen 3 dks 2bbs

[zenith hare]

not really

at most people do 3rd dk as 10th ig

doing 5 warriors however is stupid

for now anyways

cant

likely lava will implement 11th and 12th at some point

but tbh it'd probably be a very high class level req

[sleek stone]

damn you need to redoing the trap to get more critters?

[split beacon]

what's so great about es?

[wheat cove]

pick one.

[zenith hare]

all

[sleek stone]

Aoe are the best thing in rpg tho

[zenith hare]

you never ignore any meal.

[wheat cove]

alright, ill phrase it this way, what should i do first?

[split beacon]

❤️‍🔥

[zenith hare]

bubo, DB, sb, bm has better aoe

[sleek stone]

also mage in every game are op

nah meteor fan here

[zenith hare]

breeding odds, rest in any order

also waste of a t16 ribbon.

[sleek stone]

i just like seeing monster got wasted on meteor

[wheat cove]

thats a T8.....