midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[haughty root]

is it cheating if i put these boys in lab

[white lintel]

Why would that be cheating?

[ancient arch]

what the hell

[strange prism]

why... are they at 9815hrs..

[haughty root]

kinda feels like cheating

[white lintel]

He took a long break

[strange prism]

the 5th has been logged out for 5 hours lmao

[haughty root]

5th was just created haha

[atomic fable]

IS it fine to try to push to a higher rift? (I might be able to reach rift 31)

[haughty root]

none of them have ever claimed any afk gains

[strange prism]

why make them?

[haughty root]

just felt right

[atomic fable]

I'm currently on rift 20

[strange prism]

Doesnt hurt to keep pushing if possible, later levels are gonna require fairly high dps though

[haughty root]

do as much rift as you can possibly do

you're gonna get hardlocked out of rift at some point, thats when you leave it to get stronger

[strange prism]

I'm stuck on 38, stupid thing heals to fast

[atomic fable]

from looking at the wiki, it's around rift 31 where I might be stuck fully

[haughty root]

without putting too much thought into it, rift might be the best upgrades to your account outside of doot

[strange prism]

dont underestimate the drop rate ones

[ancient arch]

when can we start doing rift?

[haughty root]

late w4

[ancient arch]

like pragmatically, not the quest

[haughty root]

different for everyone. just depends on your stats

[ancient arch]

wouldn't that mean there's a set of stats where you can start viably doing it? i know nothing about it so maybe it's much more variable than i imagine

[haughty root]

i mean technically but i doubt anyone has solved it to that degree

just go and see if you can do whatrever it asks you to do

[strange prism]

damage, damage and more damage

[atomic fable]

Rift 26 is the 1st drop rate one for me

[strange prism]

pretty much all that matters

[atomic fable]

I looked at the wiki again, It might be rift 26

[strange prism]

the drop rate ones arent to bad if you run ES or Bubo

[atomic fable]

True, although my ES only does 1.3b max damage

[haughty root]

the afk ones are the worst

[strange prism]

im sure when you only use 1 character

[cold wraith]

not rly

i had like 3.8m kph and completed it pretty quick

[haughty root]

oh okay

i guess my mind is changed lol

[strange prism]

doesnt sound very ~early w3~

[brave cove]

how do i upgrade chat rings

[cold wraith]

[strange prism]

eesh

[atomic fable]

By auto review, once I clear rift 21, I think that's rift done for w5

[haughty root]

a lot of mid game w6ers hang out in low world channels to try and flex

[spiral mango]

how can i get more poison frogs

[cold wraith]

dont say flex its moreso not revealing true capabilities

[strange prism]

get to nature trap

[cold wraith]

20 min silk trap claims

[brave cove]

isn't silkskin best for shinies? and why?

[strange prism]

yea.. wouldnt want to let people know you're w6 in game thats single player

[cold wraith]

yessir

[spiral mango]

20 min makes it more poison frog?

[brave cove]

20 min is the most efficient

but you have to remember to claim them every 20 minutes

[haughty root]

20 min assuming you can check every 20 minutes

[cold wraith]

shiny % is based on claims not how long your trap takes

[spiral mango]

what is the frog chance

[cold wraith]

depends on your trapping and what % shiny you have

[brave cove]

it says it when you set and then click on the trap

i suggest equipping the frog card for shiny chance

[haughty root]

i just do 1 hour cuz i cant be asked to go back every 20 minutes

[brave cove]

also how do trapping cards work, are the bonuses applied when claiming or when setting the traps?

[haughty root]

pretty sure its when set

[brave cove]

ok

i gotta remember that then

also i asked this question earlier, do i have to build the drone

[haughty root]

yea drone is ace

[brave cove]

fuck dude

[haughty root]

the very first rift bonus makes the drone work automatically

[strange prism]

dont ~have too~ but its really nice

[brave cove]

I haven't unlocked the salt past orange yet lmao

[haughty root]

so you can just set and forget traps

[brave cove]

still feels too early to be doing that

I'm in w1 after all

[strange prism]

eh?

[brave cove]

ah a kindred soul

but your reds

get those cap prints my man

[haughty root]

ya i been slacking on refinery lol

i just put horns and caps on my 3d printer

[brave cove]

or es at gmush for like 10 mins to an hour and you don't have to think about caps

[haughty root]

if only

[brave cove]

i did that for 5 mins and i have 125k caps now

oh wait you're not w4 yet?

[haughty root]

no ES in sight

[brave cove]

ohhhh

wait but dk is still good for farming

also wtf neglecting refinery on full dk acc

[haughty root]

you're tellin me

im cooked

[brave cove]

every time i log off i hope i didn't forget something

like rn idk if my es is pushing w4 or afking in town for no reason

[indigo stratus]

Are 5 star cards gem shop only? How do 6 star cards work

[haughty root]

rift

[indigo stratus]

Yeah but how do I upgrade them now

[haughty root]

i think like rank 46 rift allows you to 6 star cards

[brave cove]

before rift you can't

[haughty root]

the same way you 2, 3, 4 and 5 star.. just collect a ton

[brave cove]

oh wait 5 star? just get a lot of the cards

[chrome herald]

What is the 6 fight pet setup for spices

[brave cove]

6 star you can only rift or get the shop item

[chrome herald]

Also does it matter what I use ribbons on?

[brave cove]

yes

it is a big deal what you use ribbons on

[haughty root]

cooking speed and skill efficiency are the best things to ribbon imo

[chrome herald]

I think I wasted a t10 on turkey

[brave cove]

that's fine

[haughty root]

t10 ribbon on a turkey is fine

[brave cove]

at least it does something

[haughty root]

damage is very important stat early game

[indigo stratus]

oh I, I had thought there was a level above ruby. Ruby's the one you can get a cardifier for 1 gem rn

[brave cove]

nope ruby is the highest

ruby is the 6 star cus base is 1 star

the game itself tells you that

[chrome herald]

These the ribbons I got rn and I have everything up until wedding cake

[haughty root]

cooking speed and cash are good

[ancient arch]

surely egg

[haughty root]

you can upgrade ribbons by combinig them even if they are already applied

so no worries using low level ribbons

[ancient arch]

damn your cooking speed is zooted

[chrome herald]

Alr

[brave cove]

do you have cabbage yet

well judging by your plates I'd assume so

[chrome herald]

Yeah

[brave cove]

did you ribbon cabbage?

[chrome herald]

No

[brave cove]

then you should

that's the one you should use your t10 on

[chrome herald]

Alr

[haughty root]

cooking speed is best stat

[chrome herald]

Should I combine all my ribbons or just start putting low level ones on import stuff

[haughty root]

dont combine them all into 2 or 3

find out how many means you have that you can ribbon and do that

if you use tier 5s its fine cuz u can upgrade them later

[chrome herald]

Means?

[brave cove]

https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1330702925294735360

[haughty root]

sorry how many ribbons you need

[brave cove]

there's a ribbon guide in here, you can have a look at it

which plates to ribbon and whatnot

[chrome herald]

Alr

I got 38 meals actually

I'm missing 2 before wedding cake

[haughty root]

cash/damage/cooking speed/skill efficiency/attack speed

those are all good

i put a tier 10 on cannoli

[fossil kayak]

[fossil kayak]

This one is really powerful

[umbral grail]

How do you do the soda poisoning achievement

[haughty root]

sea urchin is nice too

[fossil kayak]

Like this

[hexed shoal]

Cabbage

[umbral grail]

So what do I gotta do exactly

Only hVe three poisoning elders

[fossil kayak]

Beat wave 50 of Clash of Cans with 3 Poisonic Elders at Lv 5 or higher. Also, you can't sell towers

[haughty root]

i have t11 on cabbage

[hexed shoal]

Get 3 poison towers in map all have to be lvl 5 or higher and you cant sell other towers for points

[umbral grail]

So only three towers

[hexed shoal]

[hexed shoal]

Yuh

[umbral grail]

Seems easy enough but is it

[fossil kayak]

You can have more, but at least 3 poisonic at lvl5 when you beat wave 50

[brave cove]

i was asking for advice yesterday on whether to put my t16 on cabbage and i was a bit too impatient for chat to reply

the moment i put the t16 2 people told me to save it

[haughty root]

just cant have more than 3 poison towers

[umbral grail]

So just have as many poison towers as possible?

Oh

So three as a minimum

But can have them leveled up as much

[fossil kayak]

Ah, maybe 3 total? Kinda unclear, shouldn't need more than that to beat it though

[haughty root]

maybe golden food% is better but you cant go wrong with cabbage

[brave cove]

true

I'll have good ribbons by then surely

gold food% only gets good at w6 anyway right?

right?

[haughty root]

all stat% comes from w5

[brave cove]

i meant more beanstalk from w6 for golden food globally

[haughty root]

beanstalk is nice but golden food doesnt scale that well

so u can put like 2k food on someone and its still strong

[brave cove]

i see

[haughty root]

u dont see much from adding another 15k

[pseudo moss]

I am stuck at smokey lake area in the pets section of w4...for days now...any good comp suggestion?...smokey lake and further regions

[haughty root]

difference between 15k and 2k

[hexed shoal]

Im sure there should be a guide in pins

[brave cove]

really hoping for the beginner best class to be fixed soon cus I'll need that wep pow for damage

[pseudo moss]

Didn't find one...for the region unlocks

[haughty root]

do you think we can craft this bad boy by the end of the week

[full beacon]

what does "cook all" do?

[haughty root]

makes all kitchens cook the selected meal

[full beacon]

ahhh

[haughty root]

unrelated to w3 and w4 i just over doubled my golden nugget

feels good

[atomic fable]

What characters are worth getting to royale traps 1st?

[open lion]

What does atom collider do

[glacial dagger]

Where do we get this golden food, it seems decent

[nova parcel]

Vman

[open lion]

W5

[gusty herald]

What does endgame gaming look like

Do sprouts grow back on your screen as you harvest them ?

[golden grove]

how to get over rift 2 i been 2 hours playing here but still no loot or reset

[lone swan]

i just got to world 4, how does everything work

[open lion]

You hatch pets, pets fight, you put pets in the slots you defeated an enemy, they make spices
From spices you unlock recepies in the kitchen to unlock meals, meals r used as bonuses and upgrades for hatching

And in lab u put chars to unlock bonuses

[lone swan]

oh thats how u get spices

[open lion]

If u push W4 rn pick ur main to fight and put everyone else in the lab

[covert fractal]

oof. forgot tools are stat sticks

[surreal bane]

best place to farm power statue with candy?

[nova parcel]

Why do you get less splice for breeding the longer you afk?

[nova parcel]

Watch a YouTube guide. Search world 4 guide idleon

You need better spices to unlock jewels and chips for lab

[lunar shuttle]

how do you speed run critters?

[glacial dagger]

Dammit

[atomic fable]

Was able to get to lustre bow on my beast master

is it better to give it to my sb when possible?

since he's more useful active / afk I think?

[dusty harness]

just craft another

[atomic fable]

Alright, might be limited in salts, but both archers will eventually do 2 minute claims?

[white lintel]

Why would you 2 min claim?

[covert fractal]

what hero should I use for rift?

[white lintel]

Depends on the challenge

[covert fractal]

first

[atomic fable]

Like for the bars

[white lintel]

If you wanna experience pre hole life maybe

[atomic fable]

Oh, hole changes stuff?

[white lintel]

256x forge cap

Very much so

Your limit is not smelting time it’s getting the ore in the first place

[atomic fable]

Ooh

I only have x3 at the moment

since I rushed to multi chance boost

[white lintel]

Every time you enhance is another 3x

3, 9, 27, 81, 243

Not 256 mb

[atomic fable]

Alright, good to know, so eventually 2 minute claims isn't going to be needed

unless I want to end up having no ore

[white lintel]

You should not 2 min claim ever

[atomic fable]

Oh, alright

[white lintel]

We did it bc there was no other option, people spent hours 2 min claiming for the ore to make godshard gear

[atomic fable]

Is it bad that I'm now trying to preserve greenstacks when upgrading bubbles?

[atomic fable]

Oh, that makes more sense now

[white lintel]

Ehh, not really

[atomic fable]

I'm soon going to have to go for 75 greenstacks for equinox

I'm kinda running into a situation where my resources are becoming a issue for upgrading bubbles

Which has caused me to not be able to use all my liquids, is my prints just too low?

[white lintel]

It’s possible but it depends on bubble costs

[atomic fable]

Some are starting to cost millions

[white lintel]

Oh then yea you need better prints fs

[winter jetty]

If I am ES does this apply to Bubo stuff like labs, alch?

[atomic fable]

This is some of the prints I do have (The reason it's blue right now is because I'm working on rift)

[white lintel]

Tropilogs?

[atomic fable]

That's at 254k, yeah, maybe I should redo my ES prints 100%

[white lintel]

No, why are you printing tropilogs

[atomic fable]

Oh, is that useless?

aside from the gstack

[white lintel]

Unless you can tell me what it’s used for then yes

Anyways

What are you working on in alch rn?

[atomic fable]

Mostly trying to get some bubbles closer to 60%

especially some of the skilling bubbles where possible

yeah, okay, I don't see anything in alchemy that requires tropilogs, you have a point there

[eager laurel]

iirc there is a spreadsheet that shows what mats which bubble needs

[atomic fable]

Was able to candy this to 4 stars, that'll help chopping prints

[dense pine]

nice

[white lintel]

Try to focus on certain bubble or bubble types over just a blanket upgrading, it saves on 3D printer slots and helps progress faster. While it’s important to have a good base in alch, your combat and skilling bubbles are far more important than some other ones. The only misc bubbles that are worth your time are gonna be Larry and cookin roadkill (maybe the checkout one a lil bit and cog one), only looking at printer costing bubbles.

[white lintel]

I have it if you need it

[white lintel]

Good morning Ashley

[dense pine]

gm babe

[atomic fable]

Oh, so I should probably prioritise only combat, skilling and useful utility ones?

[eager laurel]

not rlly i hvnt done reprints in months now

[dense pine]

pretty much

i need to fix my alchemy

im basically only relying on atoms recently, not really doing my low lvls

[white lintel]

My alchemy has reduced to just hourly clicking when I can and waiting forever for my atom clicks to come back

I should do some Candy clicking sometime soon too

[halcyon vale]

can i be hard locked on lvl 4 i guess i missused my ladles gobo gave me

[white lintel]

Wait 15 mins and reopen the toon

[eager laurel]

man i wish i hv ram for candy bubble lvling

[white lintel]

Trading exists now, you might be able to get one

[eager laurel]

but dont i need a tradable pet? to trade for other ppls pet

[halcyon vale]

i did all day today .. now i just reset the quest when my receipe was 99% so it finishes right away

[atomic fable]

I decided to use some time candy to boost a couple of log cards for stronger prints soon

[dense pine]

ive been ignoring my candy for so long lol, i used a few to check my afk rates and to get the mats for magma and thats it

[odd obsidian]

nope, you may receive pets

[dense pine]

afk farming hampters.

[eager laurel]

is that so, i hvnt rlly played in 4months now xd

[white lintel]

I sat on mine for a while, my big candy dumps are usually dnote farming, chow, schow, wow etc, gmush kills, and more recently shell farming

[eager laurel]

104b wood lmao

[white lintel]

got any more pixels?

[dense pine]

hmm ic

[dense pine]

he saved his last 3 for the next screenshot

[white lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/8-bit-senor-chang-8-bit-chang-low-res-chang-low-res-ken-jeong-low-resolution-chang-gif-4114521147694967978

[dense pine]

ill probably start dumping candy once i push to the end of w6

think most of my characters are up to 10t damage now

[white lintel]

sounds like youll be ecclipsing soon

[dense pine]

i forgot thats a thing

i got my first 1b print yesterday

[white lintel]

whoooooooooooo good job

[eager laurel]

nice

[odd obsidian]

gg

[dense pine]

[atomic fable]

I finally unlocked seasalt island

[dense pine]

gonna finally get to full void tools for stats, been holding off on that for ages

can probably go for starlight by now tbh

[odd obsidian]

why does every void related item have to cost dense water

[dense pine]

the void is dense.

[white lintel]

so am I

[dense pine]

dense little bear.

[white lintel]

Bluetooth Bear

[atomic fable]

How useful is eclipse skulls?

[white lintel]

20mkpt and 5% dmg multi

per skull

[atomic fable]

So useful, but maybe too hard for me right now?

[white lintel]

depends on your kph

[atomic fable]

612k kph on gshrooms

[white lintel]

definatley not

theyre 1B per skull per map/mob

[atomic fable]

That's almost 60 days ;-;

I'm clearly not ready for eclipse skulls

[pseudo moss]

[atomic fable]

It's about 1 week to lava skull it

[white lintel]

whats yours?

[cursive galleon]

what should i focus on whie im in world 3? im leveling very slowly now, about 1 level per 6 hours on my main, im making sure my other characters are also leveling class/skill, focusing on construction and alchemy

[dense pine]

whats a good kp/h to start farming eclipse?

[pseudo moss]

Till w5..all in billions....not w6

Candy game strong😂

[white lintel]

if you candy it, prob go for like 50M+ kph maybe, if you throw toons to afk ecclipse, you can do much lower, just have it so that its at least 1 per day-ish

prob get a second oppinion on that

[dense pine]

ic

welp i got a while till that then

then again most my mobs are only dem skulls, should get those to lava

[white lintel]

I did w1-5 ecclipse around or after finishing w6, I did w1, it took a while, and so I waited and then just candied the rest of the worlds and then did toons for w6 bc no candy

[pseudo moss]

U will get them over time...every little thing adds up to kph....and the recent vault upgrades gave a major boost to players ..

[white lintel]

I think it cost around 1.6k hours in candy to do worlds 2-5

[dense pine]

im just barely past leeks

[pseudo moss]

Save them candies if you want them in 1 go....or save them for w6 rush when w7 drops...your choice

[pseudo moss]

That's about right

[white lintel]

I wouldnt worry about it rn then

[dense pine]

i think i should just bean stalk the all stats food lol, shouldve done that ages ago

[white lintel]

ghampters too

[dense pine]

yea they both come at once thankfully

crustal farming at wurms right?

[white lintel]

yep

whats your crystal chance at?

[dense pine]

1sec

[dense pine]

1/56

god i hate the mobile IE display lol

[white lintel]

ooh nice

[dense pine]

i gotta get that stamp up

[white lintel]

I hate IE in general

[dense pine]

same.

but mobile is the worst

[dense pine]

only 140

[white lintel]

Ive been hating on it since day one, people said, oh no IE has some things better than IT, which of course they were lying, and then the creators just up and ditched the whole site

[white lintel]

get them bricks made baby

[dense pine]

lmao

[dense pine]

been doing that

i should have enough by now for like 160 i want to say

especially if i get gilded stamps

yea i needed gilded stamls and 160 should be doable

[white lintel]

nice

you do stamps on your vman right?

[dense pine]

gonna do that today

i just need to get bags in general

[white lintel]

godshard bags are great for skilling mats

[dense pine]

that much is obvious.

i dont even have tab 6 unlocked yet tho lmaooo

[atomic fable]

Some do say it's better for me to wait until I reach anvil tab 5 before upgrading my skilling bags

since it costs no salts (From what I heard)

[white lintel]

yes thats a good idea

im surprised you dont have tab 5

[dense pine]

instead of salts its 1 bajillion hampters

[atomic fable]

Locked by nutto salts

[keen hornet]

should i keep my squire in pushing talents or skilling talents? does the construction bonus still count if i swap talents?

[odd obsidian]

all that w5 skilling bags cost is pure materials

why do the material and food bags always have to be so tedious though.

[white lintel]

keep some con talents on your combat preset

[white lintel]

lava hates us

[odd obsidian]

i guess its all about upgrading carry cap bonuses

[dense pine]

[sinful mural]

finnaly deciding to do this

[atomic fable]

Is SB a good idea to do during rift 23?

which is 5000 skull points

[white lintel]

could be

[odd obsidian]

gg. one of us

[white lintel]

not yet

[atomic fable]

I do have the vman enhancement

[odd obsidian]

hes a secret class haver so hes one of us

[sinful mural]

working on getting the lvl for skills for maestro

[white lintel]

One of us is vman

[white lintel]

What’s the challenge

[atomic fable]

I mentioned it here

It's to get 5000 skull points

[sinful mural]

one of us

[dense pine]

lol yall dont even have iman?

[white lintel]

Yea idk what that means I don’t member

[white lintel]

Infinilyte is such a buns name icl

[atomic fable]

You know how there's the lava skull challenge?

[dense pine]

its just like getting lava skulls but you dont need to save skulls.

[atomic fable]

It's basically that, but all skulls count towards points

[dense pine]

how we going from voidwalker to infinilyte

[white lintel]

SB should be fine

[atomic fable]

It'd also help work on increasing 1 of it's talent buffs

[odd obsidian]

the apple-sponsored vman?

[dense pine]

yea

[odd obsidian]

ive only been sponsored by samsung so far so i have a vman galaxy A21

[white lintel]

iMan, your new sleek, portable, and completely subservient humanoid drone, able to complete any task it’s given

[dense pine]

"any task" this mf sucks at everything

except mob prints

[white lintel]

It’s called advertising for a reason hun, he ain’t gonna be useful for shit

[dense pine]

thats a good point

[white lintel]

I go shower, see y’all later

[dense pine]

i mean we'll see tbf, he might be pretty good for all the wrong reasons, just like vman

[dense pine]

okii enjoy, cya babe

[odd obsidian]

some mob prints

might be a bit more annoying to print w6 drops

[dense pine]

yea good points

that mf is too weak for that..

[lone swan]

what can i do for more dmg and accuracy? i just got into w4 https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=number_one0242

[atomic fable]

Do you have accuracy cards?

[astral lava]

U can check in tools > cards

[atomic fable]

oh, right

[atomic fable]

From cards

You can equip accuracy cards for an accuracy increase. (Example: Sand castle (%), Copper ore (Base))
You can use the w3 card set for more accuracy
In terms of damage, you can use snowman for +3%

[brave cove]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=kamadash imma send my profile here as well, anything i can improve on?

[astral lava]

Base is nothing early on

[atomic fable]

True

[astral lava]

Use wood mush

It gives accuracy%

[atomic fable]

forgot it gave accuracy, my bad

[astral lava]

It's alr

[atomic fable]

I do see a major issue with accuracy - He hasn't upgraded shaq bubble nor wisdom bubble (For warriors)

[brave cove]

sandcastle, neyeptunes, wood mush, veiny log

[dry bridge]

2nd sb or 2nd es first for 9th slot?

[astral lava]

Then he needs to push his alchemy

[brave cove]

2nd es

[astral lava]

-# sb

[atomic fable]

You need to work on alchemy bubbles like Shaq, total stat bubbles

[astral lava]

If u did vman

[atomic fable]

for accuracy

[dry bridge]

not yet, was pure pushing 6 days through w4 and 4 days to finish w5

was told to rush to w6 in endgame talk

so ignored a lot of other things except lab and div

[astral lava]

Who told u to rush w6

[dry bridge]

i was trying to figure out how i can get more dmg on maestro as i need to start getting his 12m gshroom kill started

[lone swan]

Yeah I’m trying to farm bloches

[dry bridge]

a lot of people in #endgame-gen-chat so i can start with timegated w6 stuff

[astral lava]

They meant to rush to w6 not to rush w6 maps?

[dry bridge]

yeah, thats what i said

[atomic fable]

I rushed to w6 after w5 for example, but I've not pushed more than 4 maps in

[dry bridge]

rushed through w4 and w5 as fast as i could

[astral lava]

Then that's alr

[dry bridge]

i am trying to figure out what to do first now on main pusher as rest 7 are locked to divinity till i get goat, then will be locked to lab

and also what to create as 9th character

[astral lava]

When I was pushing maps in w6, it made me realize how bad my stats were

[dry bridge]

i can probably push couple maps in w6 but do i need to? i was doing sidetracking i skipped while rushing like just unlocked equinox earlier today etc

[astral lava]

ES as they say, it won't matter... ||right?||

?wiki worlds

[paper tusk]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/worlds

[atomic fable]

You need to work on roo more

the bonus it gives is accuracy %

as well as total damage %

[lone swan]

Yeah but idk what level to get the mega feather

[inland nexus]

get it to two.

[atomic fable]

Refinery looks mostly fine, you'll gain red salts once you rank up red

[spiral mango]

what character should i be doing the tower defense on?

[atomic fable]

Hunter / BM imo

[lone swan]

ok i got 3 of the last one

[spark granite]

why arent any cogs being made i just made it here

[spiral mango]

doesnt wizard specialize in it tho

[white lintel]

If you wanna min max run hunter, if you don’t care about min maxing then do whatever

Hunter has stun and knockback attack talents

[atomic fable]

I've nowadays only done tower defence runs with hunter

[spiral mango]

also is there a way to get more starting points with tower def

[inland nexus]

Only in the worship part, when it comes to actually doing the TD, the hunter is the best.

[atomic fable]

You will unlock ways to gain more starting points, such as salt lick, cards

and meals I think? (W4)

[white lintel]

Idleoninsight.com

[spiral mango]

im confused

so only use wizard for claiming the souls?

[astral lava]

Here is the answer
#idleon-gen-chat message
|| ||

[white lintel]

No, charge siphon is a noob trap

[spiral mango]

what

[atomic fable]

You want to claim souls on every character

[astral lava]

Don't be lazy and do ur chatges

[white lintel]

Chatges

[inland nexus]

The wizard does the worship. He steals the energy from other characters to gain souls. The hunter is the one who pushes for highest waves.

[spiral mango]

ur saying to use charge sypon articis is saying not to then another guy is saying to do ur charges

i dont know what to do 😭

[astral lava]

Charge siphon steals the charge of others and don't give them the exp

[white lintel]

Listen to me, don’t use charge siphon

[atomic fable]

Long story short: Don't use charge siphon

[astral lava]

He doesn't mean to do it

[white lintel]

Claim souls on every character

[inland nexus]

^

I'm just saying what the class is supposed to do.

[spiral mango]

okay okay

and what build should i be using for hunter ?

[astral lava]

For TD, just fighting

[white lintel]

All you need is the 2 talents maxxed

Kung fu kick and stop right there

[inland nexus]

The kick attack and rooting attack maxed out. That's it. You can also get some movement speed, but that's less important.

Should I place one of my weakest ribbons on fried eggs? They aren't as useful as burnt marshmellow, but meal cooking speed is still extremely useful as a stat.

[surreal bane]

where does the pet trade happens now?

[astral lava]

#pet-trades
#trade-discussion

[white lintel]

I’m gonna keep it real with you, don’t spend any of your ribbons yet

[inland nexus]

Alright, thanks.

[atomic fable]

Oh, so I made a bit of a mistake doing some ribbons early?

[white lintel]

..likely

[atomic fable]

I do have the db upgrade that gives a daily ribbon

[inland nexus]

I'm definitely placing my t16 ribbon on burnt marshmellow when I get it though.

[white lintel]

Only one ribbon is not good

[white lintel]

No the hell you’re not

[odd obsidian]

ehhh place it more on cabbage

or on golden food bonus

[white lintel]

Put it on gfood

[atomic fable]

This is what my cooking briefly looks like so far

[inland nexus]

Alright.

[white lintel]

The egg ribbon is fine, not ideal, but no big deal

[atomic fable]

I've mostly done it on the cooking speed ones

but I've kept all the t10 ones

[white lintel]

Pumpkin, cauliflower, critter %, marshmallow, cabbage are all good choices
Gfood too obv

[atomic fable]

Okay, maybe I partially messed up with doing 1 ribbon on egg and corndog

but I did do 1 on cabbage

[white lintel]

Those ones are fine too but they’re just not as impactful bc they don’t scale

[spiral mango]

is this good

[inland nexus]

I knew there were a variety of other good options, but I thought that meal cooking speed will eventually overpower them in the long run.

[atomic fable]

Okay, that makes more sense, I should probably hold onto the rest of the ribbons for strong ones

[white lintel]

Like I said earlier, max the kung fu kick and stop right there talents

[odd obsidian]

cabbage is the ultimate meal cooking speed bonus

[spiral mango]

i did

[white lintel]

It kinda falls off ngl

[inland nexus]

Not burnt marshmellow? I thought that was the best.

[white lintel]

You in fact did not

[odd obsidian]

it does but burned marshmallow is so far away its not worth mentioning

[white lintel]

With something so long term like ribbons you should consider everything

[odd obsidian]

he doesnt need to spend months saving a ribbon for a food he wont get for a while

[spiral mango]

how

[white lintel]

Cupcake is a gamer, he’ll get them sooner than you think

[odd obsidian]

its lullaby airways, the traditional w6 roadblock that unlocks it

[white lintel]

Library

[spiral mango]

suck my dick

[odd obsidian]

Very kind!

[inland nexus]

That's fair.

[odd obsidian]

i dont even have burned marshmallow yet lol

[white lintel]

Wait til Roro sees that

[inland nexus]

Can't blame him. He's an idleOn player, we all hate reading. A library is useless for us :(

[spiral mango]

better?

this was 18 checkouts

[white lintel]

Yep

[odd obsidian]

there arent a lot of new recipe cooking speed boosts

[white lintel]

They’re all in cooking

I think

It gets really fast near the end so don’t worry about it

For the later stuff

[odd obsidian]

i am currently trying to get the pancakes from the 2nd w6 spice

[atomic fable]

Used my checkouts, got those 2 to these levels

[odd obsidian]

the recipe is taking 13 days

[white lintel]

Lvl up your fire in kitchen upgrades and new meal speed meals

[atomic fable]

It's not the highest I can reach with my max book level, but it's better than 100 + boosted

[spiral mango]

how do you increase the checkout range

[white lintel]

Someone have the pic?

[odd obsidian]

the new meal speed meals i have are maxed to their current highest and with the highest tier ribbon i have (2) on them

[white lintel]

Get more cooking speed then

[atomic fable]

In world 3, Achievement, Salt Lick and merit shop

that's +35 if you complete all 3 fully

[inland nexus]

This one.

[odd obsidian]

i really need to level up fluoride

issue is that with my current atom production id get the next upgrade in a week

[white lintel]

Is your bone marrow maxed?

[spiral mango]

how to read

[atomic fable]

I can't unlock the upgrade from atom collider for max talent book level yet

[white lintel]

Means you need better prints

Oh shit, you’re at leaks/trolls right?

[atomic fable]

At the moment, no

I'm only at baby troll

[white lintel]

Ah okay

Nvm then

Have you hit the power bubbles yet?

[atomic fable]

I only went to that map for db, then stopped to catch other things up

Power bubbles... like?

[white lintel]

Push to mama to get farming going

[white lintel]

Power trione, tritwo, trithree

[atomic fable]

Not yet

I'm 2 bubbles away (Green / Red), or 3 away (Purple)

[white lintel]

How close to 200 tent?

[atomic fable]

It's only around 160 or so

I can't get it to 200 without the artifact

[white lintel]

With or without the non-library talent buffs

[atomic fable]

Even with the talent buffs

[odd obsidian]

i decided to ladle to try to get it

it only took about 500 ladles

[white lintel]

Oh cheap

Nice

[odd obsidian]

yeah im surprised

anyway ill work on my new recipe speed for the 2 meals ill have remaining

[white lintel]

How close to fury relic?

[atomic fable]

I'm only at 5th island

I might have to try to rush island 9

[white lintel]

The find chance will bite you

Have you beanstacked hampters yet?

[atomic fable]

I don't have beanstack yet

I do have it available, but not enough to get it yet

[white lintel]

Can you active DK crystals?

[atomic fable]

Missing chocco chip

[white lintel]

Nooooo

[odd obsidian]

in a month

[atomic fable]

That's the 1 thing preventing me from crystal farming aside from crystal spawn chance

[sleek stone]

Damn i should get eldritch asap

[white lintel]

I gambled mine ngl

[weary sparrow]

Should i go for chizoar or platinum armor first

[sleek stone]

Yeah gamble till win

[odd obsidian]

i hate gambling chips

[atomic fable]

it's 385 gems per chip...

[odd obsidian]

theres one chip that will elude me for 8 months and its one of the black chips

[white lintel]

Do you want a shitty pickup truck or a mustang

[white lintel]

I hate those chips, they never rotate

[atomic fable]

I don't think it's worth trying to buy chips with gems

[odd obsidian]

chizoar requires void either way its like asking if you want to go for gold or copper

[white lintel]

The only ones that do are the ones I have 3 of, I need more of the other one badly

[sleek stone]

Yeah not worth but gamble is gamble

[odd obsidian]

theyd boost my crystal spawn chance a bit

[white lintel]

It’s not, but I did it anyways

[sleek stone]

I gamble and sad but i have a mental till winning no surrending

[sleek stone]

Fellow gamblers

[atomic fable]

The jewel one might be worth it

since you can't get repeats

[white lintel]

13.6% of getting something good with the chip one

[white lintel]

That’s how I got almost all of my jewels

[odd obsidian]

jewels require far too much spice to get normally

[white lintel]

Boss farm for gems and then buy them

Boss farming got killed tho

So that sucks

[sleek stone]

Is it still 300/gems?

[white lintel]

100 kills per day

Aka 70 gems

[sleek stone]

Dang i should do it

[atomic fable]

I have 95 world 2 keys, how?

[white lintel]

W5 keys

[atomic fable]

I have... 0 :/

[sleek stone]

Oh

[white lintel]

Get more lol

Kruk is the best way to boss farm, you get all the keys in the world from w5 gfood farming and CCing with bubo
Also a short kill time and you can pick up all drops with autoloot

[atomic fable]

I see, so I have to either get active bubo setup or crystal farm setup

before I can start to significantly progress

[stable crane]

Morning peeps. Quick one - do I need to use pouches in order to get max capacity or can I skip ones and be fine? (like do I need to do the cramped fish pouch to 50 before I should do the small pouch to 100 - or can I just go straight to 100)

[atomic fable]

Got my 1st royal trap crafted 😄

[white lintel]

Well, you can also just farm key dropping enemies in w5, but crystal farming having key drops on the side is why it’s so good, multi tasking

[atomic fable]

True

[white lintel]

🎉

[atomic fable]

Oh it's way better than the other shiny one

[latent bramble]

you can just use highest one

[atomic fable]

I'm so close to 1% crystal spawn chance as well

at best non-jman

[brisk ore]

wait, does the dog happiness vault upgrade do anything?

it seemingly lets you pet teleport from anywhere, so you don't need to be in w1 town. but is that it?

other than being the most important stat there, of course.

[spiral mango]

when does playing actively get good

[white lintel]

For pushing, w4, for farming, depends

DK and bubo are mid game, and ES works good whenever

[atomic fable]

I'm 7 away with w5 stuff in auto review

4 being timegated sadly 😦

nvm, it's 5 - Breeding being 1 of them

[white lintel]

I’m almost at the point where the only thing limiting me from w7 waiting room is the stupid blunder trophy achieve

[atomic fable]

this is all I have left for w5, Have I done a decent job turning this back around from late w4?

[white lintel]

1 thing left

Lookin pretty good I can’t lie

T0 statues lol

[atomic fable]

yeah, that might be 1 of the easier ones to fix lol

but tbf, that's kinda locked behind crystal farming

[spiral mango]

whats this hat called

[white lintel]

If your on IE or IT you can see it there

[spiral mango]

im not

[white lintel]

What are you on?

[atomic fable]

Breeding might be possible, this is the pets I have

[spiral mango]

youtube 😭

[atomic fable]

Since the last one for the tier is Round 50 arena

[white lintel]

It’s a paid hat from a bundle idk the name

[odd obsidian]

this is enough to completely max out all battles. please work on that

[thorny zinc]

its called giftmas snoozy cap

[spiral mango]

ty

[atomic fable]

Okay, let's see if I can get 5th pet slot

[hushed summit]

I dont understand why sometime I lose all HitChance
Any idea ?
Its on my Divine Knight

[white lintel]

Why no skilled dimwit or royal sampler?

[white lintel]

Check cards, gear, talent set up

[spiral mango]

is it bad that i have like 10 vials all level 1

[hushed summit]

im all good, now I can hit...

but sometime all the sudden I cant, like on the screenshot

[thorny zinc]

you should level up to at least 4

[atomic fable]

Only round 44?!

[odd obsidian]

depends on the vial. some are really rough

[spiral mango]

im too lazy to unlock more vials fr

[white lintel]

Crystal mobs?

[hushed summit]

what about them ?

[atomic fable]

It's probably crystal spawns

!crystal

[candid scarab]

The Crystal Monsters are rare mini-boss spawns that have a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you actively kill an enemy. It has 15x HP, 30x Exp, 2.5x accuracy required, and does 2.5x more damage than monsters in your current area.

[hushed summit]

ooh..

[white lintel]

They require more acc and it displays weird on the afk screen

[odd obsidian]

think of your wizard. think of your elemental sorcerer

[hushed summit]

yeah... maybe...

[white lintel]

Also take that pfp off it’s really cringey

[hushed summit]

fine, I'll take that 🙂 thanks

[spiral mango]

uhm... what elemental sorcerer...

[odd obsidian]

wizard's Evolution. plan in advance

[spiral mango]

does he have talents for vials or something

it takes forever dropping the stuff for vials smhh

[jolly kiln]

how get beeg # like this im curious

besides that one talent for 2x is it just breeding lvls mostly?

[odd obsidian]

he gets dmg bonuses based on how many level 4 vials you have

[jolly kiln]

yea my shaman has stupid high dmg bc of this

[odd obsidian]

oh its shaman whoopsie

think of your bubonic conjurer..

[spiral mango]

ion got a bubonic conjurer

[jolly kiln]

yooo

[atomic fable]

Alright, I think I need borger...

[spiral mango]

cant think if i dont have one

[odd obsidian]

think of your to be bubonic conjurer shaman...

[atomic fable]

I tried twice, failed in round 40's

[spiral mango]

ok but like theres 98516419 vials how am i supposed to know which ones to level

pplus it takes fifty years dropping resources for the cauldren

[jolly kiln]

I have 4 pink vials in world 4

is that overkill?

or minor overkill(aka not enough for me)

[odd obsidian]

67..

[jolly kiln]

you say that like I dont have half of them done

[odd obsidian]

level the cheap ones!! the ones you mass produce the materials for

[spiral mango]

how cooked am i

[odd obsidian]

What

[jolly kiln]

thats better than my tf2 k/dr

[spiral mango]

tf2 is hardest game ever

[jolly kiln]

of 0.01 bc I spend alot of time messing around

[spiral mango]

i get fortnite dropped on by a scout with crazy movement

[jolly kiln]

my kdr per match is like .7-4

but I like to just chat and mess around in maps

[spiral mango]

that is good

[jolly kiln]

which involves little kills and many deaths(pits are fun to fall into)

@spiral mango

[spiral mango]

where are you getting 500k goblin ears from

[odd obsidian]

3d printing

[spiral mango]

im pretty sure i have 63

[jolly kiln]

masacurring

I killed like 1.5mil

[spiral mango]

my best sample is green mushrooms at 102....

[odd obsidian]

all in due time..

[jolly kiln]

my sample for mush is over 3k

[spiral mango]

how

you must be a terrorist

[jolly kiln]

I didnt sample those goblin ears boy

[spiral mango]

poor slime

[jolly kiln]

I left my ES afk on glublins for a week

[spiral mango]

whats ur kills per hour

[jolly kiln]

like 10k

[atomic fable]

Do I need borger for Round 50 arena or am i just doing something wrong

[jolly kiln]

maybe higher

[spiral mango]

this is my mushroom kph on my stupid wizard

[odd obsidian]

i didnt bother leveling this one up. glublin ears arent that great

[jolly kiln]

btw I got these up

dont ask how I get them this absurd

[odd obsidian]

give him some proper clothes man 💔

[jolly kiln]

my bloaches could easily go over 300

[spiral mango]

shit wont help me kill more green mushrooms

[jolly kiln]

I just dont need them rn

[spiral mango]

he is slave

[jolly kiln]

death note

kills per tier is stronger than gear for that

[spiral mango]

getting liquid is so slow thats the problem with vials/ bubbles

[jolly kiln]

it is?

[spiral mango]

wdym

[jolly kiln]

its that slow?

[spiral mango]

bro i get 7 water per hour

[atomic fable]

Am I doing something wrong?

[spiral mango]

after spending 6 void on upgrades

[jolly kiln]

y/n

I have 3 dudes in it

[spiral mango]

i got 2 in the liquid caul

[jolly kiln]

no the gemshop upgrade for it

its GOOD

just get 1 for now

[spiral mango]

woah woah im not rich

i got 165 gems and a dream

[jolly kiln]

I just saved my free gems

for it, took like 2 weeks w/ the event

[spiral mango]

im saving free gems

[jolly kiln]

I got my first diamond today

[spiral mango]

are my prints cooked?

[jolly kiln]

beyond sir

[thorny zinc]

2 more portals and im in w6

[spiral mango]

wdymmm

[jolly kiln]

focus on deathnote first those other prints that are low dont matter

tollerable

kinda low but tollerable

same w/ ur other wood

[thorny zinc]

even this is trash

[jolly kiln]

hell on earth

[spiral mango]

this guy is rich

[jolly kiln]

thats worse than mine for bloaches

I mean the other one

[spiral mango]

my bloach print is bettert

[thorny zinc]

real

[jolly kiln]

ok now thats a new level of COOKED

[spiral mango]

wdym focus on death note

[thorny zinc]

i could prob get more but im lazy

[jolly kiln]

you maxed this right?

[spiral mango]

im murdering green mushrooms like terrorist and im upgrading it in construction

[jolly kiln]

100k kills all w1 mobs got me to beyond

[spiral mango]

thats all i can do right for death note

[jolly kiln]

400/hr

dont just focus one mob

[spiral mango]

lemme show u my death note rq

[jolly kiln]

ill show u mine and youll see

[thorny zinc]

you even have 100k on everyone💀

[jolly kiln]

yea

[jolly kiln]

yea stop focusing on one

[spiral mango]

DIDDLE MY GOD DAMN PICKLE

42% MULTIKILL

[jolly kiln]

barb

[odd obsidian]

i forgot him on the altar 💔

[jolly kiln]

but wait theres more

[jolly kiln]

yea and my base multikill is over 100%

[thorny zinc]

and this

[jolly kiln]

aka double for double damage min

[spiral mango]

wanna see my bubs

[jolly kiln]

I need to get that unlocked also I remember that kill per kill

I was an idle skilling addict

I need to up this a bit

[thorny zinc]

i didnt really like it but now i started playing for that trophie

[jolly kiln]

I played it b4 idleon existed

[spiral mango]

chadtheman11.idleonefficiency.com

how cooked am i

[jolly kiln]

ok

Ill tell u

hella

[thorny zinc]

first of all unlock more stamps please

and try leveling them up

[spiral mango]

WDYNMMMM

[jolly kiln]

honestly not too bad for your rate of liquid

[jolly kiln]

skill efficiency

[spiral mango]

i poured my blood sweat and tears into those stamps

[jolly kiln]

I have 3x this

omega cooked

[atomic fable]

yeah, you want more stamps

they give useful bonuses

[jolly kiln]

wtf

[thorny zinc]

i still miss that one

[jolly kiln]

its not maxed?

[spiral mango]

where do i pull void out of my ass i make 5 dementia an hour

[jolly kiln]

vault

[jolly kiln]

I make 6 void/hr

[spiral mango]

how cooked tho

like have u seen worse

[thorny zinc]

weak

[odd obsidian]

this looks really tedious to level up

[jolly kiln]

makes sense

[jolly kiln]

it is till w6

[odd obsidian]

bro why are your redox salts on auto refine!!

[jolly kiln]

you can get mult on those kills

[atomic fable]

Red salt deficit

I'm pretty sure

[jolly kiln]

yeap

[odd obsidian]

its a red salt deficit yes

so remove that auto refine!!!

and never put it on ever again for red salts

[atomic fable]

and why is red on auto refine

[jolly kiln]

he cant even handle the gmush req

for t2 rn

[odd obsidian]

💔

[spiral mango]

wait i dont have gold fish im so cooked

[jolly kiln]

he needs deathnote bad

[odd obsidian]

you dont have a gold fish sample??

[spiral mango]

oh yeah wait youre so right i doo!!!! one sec

[thorny zinc]

i also have red salt deficit but only until i rank it up to 6

[jolly kiln]

just focus on red salt increased and

[atomic fable]

This is mine for example in refinery

[odd obsidian]

slowly buying up these bonejoepickles

[jolly kiln]

deathnote godamn

[astral lava]

W

[jolly kiln]

thats decent for now you will need to pump that up later

[spiral mango]

ion know how to use refinery tab im a dumbass

[jolly kiln]

dont upgrade future tier w/o upgrading previous

your orange salts use more red than you make/hr

[spiral mango]

theres tierrrs?

aint nobody told me about all this i was just told to refine shit and ill get good at game

[jolly kiln]

yea and u got 2 t2

[thorny zinc]

and rank up red whenever you can

[atomic fable]

IE auto review can help tell you when you can upgrade other salt tiers, for me, I can upgrade orange to rank 7

[jolly kiln]

better than not refining at all

you got elite classes?

[spiral mango]

so tier up the uh red?

[jolly kiln]

yea

[spiral mango]

im in w3

[thorny zinc]

everytime you can

[spiral mango]

so turn auto refine off and refine when its at 200?

[jolly kiln]

yes

[thorny zinc]

yep

[spiral mango]

what does tier do

[jolly kiln]

for red only

[jolly kiln]

more salt and more cost

[spiral mango]

keep auto refine on the explosive combustion?

[jolly kiln]

these are the multipliers on the base values

[atomic fable]

for Orange and Blue, only rank up once you can without a deficit like for me, I can safely upgrade orange by 1

[jolly kiln]

yes

[thorny zinc]

@spiral mango use this

[odd obsidian]

it gets incredibly slow later on though

[spiral mango]

wtf am i looking at

[jolly kiln]

I heard it gets faster once u reach 1m

[odd obsidian]

it does

[jolly kiln]

a simple guide for when to level orange and blue

this bigger good

[stable crane]

Woops. Just got to w4 and I used a stack of like 10 eggs - I see only 3 got 'loaded'. Did I lose the rest?

[jolly kiln]

this bigger bad

[spiral mango]

this is what im talkingg about

[jolly kiln]

thats what its saying

[spiral mango]

you gotta explain like im a 5 year old

[jolly kiln]

cave man speak speaks to all

[spiral mango]

yes

[jolly kiln]

Im autistic so sometiems i gotta talk to myself like that to force myself to focus up its effective so I cant complain

[spiral mango]

so this good?

[atomic fable]

Okay, I'll explain it like this, a deficit happens when the POWER per cycle is < the cost per cycle

[spiral mango]

4 less than 84

[jolly kiln]

check the other #

power per cycle #

for red salts click the little eye icon

[spiral mango]

uh 2x

[atomic fable]

If Power per cycle is higher than the cost per cycle, that's good (You're gaining salts)

[jolly kiln]

2 is less than 4

thats bad

[spiral mango]

oh im shit at this game

[atomic fable]

if it's less than the cost per cycle, that's bad

[spiral mango]

why am i supposed to think when playing this game bruh

[jolly kiln]

see mines at 10x produced and 4 used

[jolly kiln]

its not hard just ignore orange till red beeger

[atomic fable]

For me, I gain 28 red salts, but 20 is used (+8)

[spiral mango]

hhhh so what do i need to focus on in progression

[stable crane]

Gents, newbie here, I used a stack of like 10 eggs I got after the early q in w4 - I see only 3 got 'loaded'. Did I lose the rest?

[thorny zinc]

always upgrade the red one. the rest follow the guide

[jolly kiln]

deathnote barb kills upgrade helps

this is on my chef but still

hes cooking up eggs rn

[ember vapor]

so in my case I need to rank up the top salt a couple times until it is higher then 24?

[thorny zinc]

damn

[jolly kiln]

yea -5 defecit

Im at a +6 positive

[thorny zinc]

stop leveling the orange one

[spiral mango]

does it have to be barb for deathnote

[jolly kiln]

so I can idle both to an extent

[jolly kiln]

he gets best in w3

you can ignore the blue salts rn

[spiral mango]

do i need to get super high deathnote for every worldd

[jolly kiln]

thats over pushing

[thorny zinc]

eventually yes but dont focus now

[jolly kiln]

eventually yes but 25k-100k kills all mobs

[atomic fable]

The same rules apply for these 3 salts as well, you want green to be 0% auto refine

[jolly kiln]

is a good start

[spiral mango]

i get like 2k kills an hour smh smh

[jolly kiln]

yea it takes a few days to get started up

[thorny zinc]

its fine for w3

[jolly kiln]

but oncei t gets up it gets JUICED

[thorny zinc]

real

[jolly kiln]

just go for these 2

[spiral mango]

this good?

[jolly kiln]

better than w1 somehow

how

[spiral mango]

ok so for w1 i just need to be terrorist to every mob for more green mushroom?

[spiral mango]

idk skill

[jolly kiln]

yes

wanna see mine?

[spiral mango]

ok

[ember vapor]

why no auto refine?

[jolly kiln]

itll become like this by the time u get w4 started up

[spiral mango]

is this good set up

my wizard is terrorize frog for multikill

[jolly kiln]

it uses blue but it takes longer than the base set to produce so it wont use as much

[zenith hare]

cause its hard as fuck to produce too much green salt

[jolly kiln]

by like 1/10th or somethin I cant remember perfectly

[atomic fable]

It's 1/4 speed

[jolly kiln]

dementia might be too far unless ur getting larry up

[spiral mango]

my what

who is larry

[zenith hare]

and yeah getting too much mining xp can be very very bad

[jolly kiln]

extra levels per upgrade used on

[zenith hare]

its a bubble

[atomic fable]

This bubble

[jolly kiln]

bubbles

[spiral mango]

where is gary