midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[warm grove]

when you get lvl 25 on the great mega reset

or 15 fractal megafeathers

[dusty harness]

i cant even bother getting past 8x bonus

[warm grove]

its so easy now after vault though

750% feather boost is crazy, I did it before same with most people but now its super easy

[sleek stone]

owl for me stop at 15

[sage vortex]

Is there a vault for roo?

[sleek stone]

there is

[warm grove]

yeah there is, I am personally never gonna stop on owl. Almost at MF 26

[dusty harness]

there are prob ppl in this game that dedicate their whole lives into the clickers

[sleek stone]

and expensive one

[sage vortex]

How far is it?

[atomic fable]

Okay, it was

[warm grove]

Roo vault is pretty close to the bottom

Super worth though

[wheat cove]

clickers, or just keep holding your mouse down, and it will think your clicking 500X per second

[haughty root]

very expensive to level it to max

[warm grove]

that's why lava made evil clickers where you don't get to click in any meaningful way

[dusty harness]

[wise nimbus]

i gambled and i won

[wheat cove]

?!?!??!?!?

[warm grove]

which gamble did you pull off?

hey that's pretty good actually

[wheat cove]

103/100 talent level, wtf XDDDD

[next shell]

its been 3 minutes and i can get my next megafish alr

[true plover]

Doesnt the demon genie card help too with CM spawn?

I have it at lv 5

[warm grove]

you got ES?

[wheat cove]

ES?

[atomic fable]

Elemental sorcerer

[floral cave]

energy shield

[wheat cove]

nope 😄

no elemental sorcerrer yet

[wise nimbus]

then maybe?

but at lvl 40?

[wheat cove]

nope.

[wise nimbus]

u got slug?

[wheat cove]

nope

actually yeah. it is that talent

i didnt know it affected talent tab 1 and 2 also XDDDDDD

[spring patrol]

Does Lab level affect the length of the connection lines?

[warm grove]

My poor DB has to get 865 million more kills in the rift

[wheat cove]

if i put a ribbon on a meal, can i replace the ribbon with an even better one?

[jaunty hemlock]

how to fastest refine salt?

[wise nimbus]

but u lose the one already on

[jaunty hemlock]

i do not make it so much

[warm grove]

refine them faster?

[wheat cove]

kkk

[west pilot]

i think you can combine them on the plate itself

[warm grove]

you just have to level them up for now

[west pilot]

or put a better one

[jaunty hemlock]

how?

[warm grove]

or rank them up I mean, they produce faster each rank when you refine at max power

[jaunty hemlock]

i watched youtube and i still don't understand

[warm grove]

you have been doing that so don't worry, its slow at the start

[atomic fable]

What's the ranks? I think you're losing red salts

[jaunty hemlock]

still low since i am already in world 5

[atomic fable]

You're -2 on red salts

[jaunty hemlock]

somehow it frustrate me

[west pilot]

Just don't over rank

[warm grove]

if you are low on salts there isn't much you can do early on except wait and rank up properly

[west pilot]

You on red salt deficit, but it's not too much

[atomic fable]

Don't rank up orange for now, you need 2 rank ups on red I think to be out of deficit

[jaunty hemlock]

i just need to get blue salt to build better gear but somewhere it is i am already stuck in

[warm grove]

dang was just about to send it

[inner forum]

what pets/pet power should i have going for this

[west pilot]

You don't even need the image

[dusty harness]

this is 200 pics deep in my folder

[west pilot]

Think how it works

[jaunty hemlock]

but i have to wait for 45 days to rank up huh?

[warm grove]

you don't need it but until you understand its a good guideline

[west pilot]

I wouldn't say a chart that doesn't let you think is a good guideline

[sleek stone]

thats the amount of material you got to keep it up

usually 3-4 days to rank up

[atomic fable]

Fuel time = How long it'll stay on for before running out of materials

[jaunty hemlock]

oh okay.

once i hit max power then rank up?

[west pilot]

People following those charts never understand how ranks work, they just follow it and that's it

[warm grove]

its easier than explaining it to someone who doesn't get it though, just a good bandage

[atomic fable]

You can calculate the rank up time by cycle time x (Max Power / Power per cycle)

at least I think that's the right formula

[west pilot]

Never got explained so

[jaunty hemlock]

even my refinery speed at 60%

[warm grove]

just talking about in general, i'd say 75% of people don't understand

[west pilot]

Cause they never get explained they just get hit by a image with the ranks

[jaunty hemlock]

I think one of them needs to make CLARITY for salt chart instead of just picture.

[warm grove]

check the second pin, that's all you need to know

[atomic fable]

an example is my 1st 3 salts are 12 / 6 / 3

[west pilot]

If they don't get it with 2nd pin that's their problem

[haughty root]

some people dont want to have to think about it tbh

[west pilot]

And that's how people end up knowing nothing about the game and asking stupid stuff

[sleek stone]

reading is a top tier skill tho

[floral cave]

not in priority list

[warm grove]

people always ask stupid stuff reguardless unfortunately

[jaunty hemlock]

and i do not use auto refine at 10% or else

[sleek stone]

yeah who do reading tho

not worth it rn

[white lintel]

r word

[atomic fable]

You always want red salts to be at 0% auto refine

[sleek stone]

oh no do i get ban

[white lintel]

yes

[sleek stone]

noooooo

[haughty root]

pictures like that helped me understand the concept or having different ranked refinery, then you tweak as you need

[warm grove]

ban him, he said the reed word

[sleek stone]

[jaunty hemlock]

It doesnt apply to EVERYONE, whoever can read or understand the picture but 100% people will understand? then answer is no.

[true plover]

Wait is the post box not shared on all characters?\

[warm grove]

the boxes you earn are given to everybody, but are spent on each character individually

[true plover]

oh hell

[stuck relic]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[warm grove]

Just realized how massive the gravestone is for farming kills for chows on slow spawn maps

didn't even think about this

[dusty harness]

now get wows

[jaunty hemlock]

even my S/DK maxed all refines

[warm grove]

man, I am wow'd by how sad that is gonna make me in the future

[sleek stone]

damn i forgot to get chow for cooking speed

and im asking why my cooking are slow

[atomic fable]

Idk if I'm ready to start chows yet

[warm grove]

how slow?

chows are best done at about 100k kp/h

give or take depending on your patience

[sleek stone]

about 2k B

[warm grove]

oh yeah that is kinda slow, you got the vman talent maxed?

[sleek stone]

yeah

[atomic fable]

Is this good so far? (I'm capped by spices)

[warm grove]

your atom plate upgrade unlocked I assume?

[sleek stone]

nope

still on the way

[warm grove]

ah, when you get that it'll go way faster

[sleek stone]

my total meal are at 570

[sleek stone]

ahh okay what upgrade tho

[warm grove]

its later in the atom collider, think its 10k or 20k atoms, somewhere around there

every plate you have lvl 30+ gives a multiplicative bonus to cooking speed

[sleek stone]

damn even i only get 30 atom maximum

[atomic fable]

I don't have atoms yet

[sleek stone]

can see it from omniphau

[atomic fable]

well, I do, but I can't use them yet

[sleek stone]

yeah you could use it tho to boost getting purrmep

[warm grove]

oh yeah then don't worry much about cooking yet, summoning also does good work for basically everything

[west pilot]

Sadly only works on one or two

[sleek stone]

the problem is skill issue

[warm grove]

yeah I noticed it stopped spawning after the second horde but still massive

[short kite]

Maybe I should focus on easy atoms instead of maxing vials for the mastery

[warm grove]

nah by the time you need atoms of that quantity you would be able to print any skillable material within a few days max, so just do whatever you want

[short kite]

My max prints are like 4M right now

probably not enough but would like to unlock the meal cooking speed atleast

[storm heath]

what do u guys do to increase kills per hour?

[warm grove]

there's tons of things, just progressing generally is fine for the most part but earlier on upgrade the all for kill bubble, 10th purple bubble

[gaunt cloak]

why are my voidwalker talent points not available in the second talent preset

[atomic fable]

vman points are based on portals unlocked from void trial rerun

[warm grove]

give it a sec, maybe cloudsave

[gaunt cloak]

i did a second speedrun and got a higher portal count but didnt gain any points in the second preset

[atomic fable]

You have to upgrade that talent on the 2nd preset 1 level for all the points to be added

[gaunt cloak]

yeah that fixed it, thank you

[ancient arch]

how does automation arm determine what ores to put in and how many

[somber depot]

Maxed out what I could

[lone swan]

is the event extended or something

[somber depot]

Excuse me that's just unfair

I can give so many people doot

[robust marsh]

billion dmg

[somber depot]

Do you hav ram/

?

[robust marsh]

Nope

[sleek stone]

Yeah people tend to do giveaway for doot now

[somber depot]

I'll be stingy tho

[robust marsh]

Almost refined it

[sleek stone]

[somber depot]

Aw man

[sleek stone]

Sheesh

[robust marsh]

I saw it was Full and was gonna click it

[alpine scarab]

hi

[robust marsh]

Hi

[robust marsh]

Question what is your refinery cycle time?

[somber depot]

What should I use it on?

[robust marsh]

Nice ribbon

[alpine scarab]

skill eff l think

[sleek stone]

1.50m

[robust marsh]

Minutes right

[sleek stone]

Yea

[robust marsh]

Mine is 2:20m

[sleek stone]

I upgrade some refinery cycle on salt

Also stamp

[robust marsh]

Idk how mine is so low isn't base cycle time 15m?

I upgraded stamp and salt a bit but not much

[sleek stone]

Upgrade more

But yeah thats okay for 2.20m

[robust marsh]

I bet bean has it like 1 sec

[sleek stone]

You wouldnt even care about it when you got omniphau

[somber depot]

I did a thing

[robust marsh]

Why?

[somber depot]

100qq soon

[sleek stone]

Everytime you claim non candy afk gives either refinery, breeding, cooking, gaming, and sailing based on hours of your claim

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

[sleek stone]

I got to lv 13 easy

[somber depot]

I've been having sub 20 hours on red without this maxed out

[robust marsh]

I have one more question should I do 50% for 21000 or 5 % for around 2000 in div?

[somber depot]

A bit better

[sleek stone]

Time to get instant refinery speed

[somber depot]

Yummy

33 sec cycle

New onyx

So like

[robust marsh]

Do I unlock next after I get the 5th anvil?

[somber depot]

Nope

[robust marsh]

What do you mean nope

[sleek stone]

There is nothing there

Not update yet

[robust marsh]

Hmmm so how do I get new recipes

[sleek stone]

Mobs

[robust marsh]

Bruh

[sleek stone]

Goodluck tho

[robust marsh]

Thanks I only need nullo salt for troll gear now

[pallid kernel]

How do I 5 star bandit bob card?

[robust marsh]

Just keep on getting the card

You have rift right?

[sleek stone]

I got my troll pants for 1 week

Or more i think

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

[pallid kernel]

Yeah but I don’t know how to get card

[robust marsh]

Click on Bandit bob when entering the map

[twilit crypt]

you don't complete the first quest

[somber depot]

100qq max dmg setup hit

[alpine scarab]

just stand on the platform above him then click on him

[atomic fable]

I somehow got this victory with 4 pet slots, Saved by block chance

[twilit crypt]

and you keep meeting him every daily reset @pallid kernel

[pallid kernel]

Ohhh ok thanks

[atomic fable]

Yes, I know I'm missing 1 pet, just have no eggs right now

[sleek stone]

You guys auto review didnt have any problem?

[robust marsh]

You have problem in auto review?

[sleek stone]

Yesh it load longer

[robust marsh]

Hmmm did you try to say my name there?

[alpine scarab]

i think thats a device prob

[sleek stone]

Yeah and it got worse

[sleek stone]

Dunno, not like that from week ago

[alpine scarab]

do u have like lots of tabs running in the back ground?

[sleek stone]

I dont know what happen

[robust marsh]

Or network issue

[sleek stone]

Nah

Maybe network issur

[robust marsh]

Check your router

[atomic fable]

I'm not sure how this setup got me 2 maps further in territories

Vault maybe?

[robust marsh]

Yep vault

[alpine scarab]

l think software updates also help

[sleek stone]

Yeah gonna check it real quick

[atomic fable]

yeah, current map isn't even close, I think I have to go for 5th pet slot now

You think this is strong enough for round 50 clear? (5th pet slot)

[alpine scarab]

if u have burger 5th and 6th slot easy

[atomic fable]

I don't have borger yet

[alpine scarab]

rip

[robust marsh]

Hmmm I don't have the three pet on screen

[torn tree]

there is number of slot to have for egg for increase rarity ?

[white tusk]

I just got into world 3 what should I prioritize farming first?

[dense pine]

you just need to unlock it first

[alpine scarab]

your incubater have to be full in order for it to work

[dense pine]

do the town quest

[alpine scarab]

3d print?

[torn tree]

y i know but i mean there is a number to not exced of slot to not decrease time to get a egg rarity

[alpine scarab]

active bm with vman enhancement help shorten incubator time if that is what u are asking

[torn tree]

cant for now, lab jail xd

[dense pine]

well youll start getting egg raritys faster if you have less egg cap, but in return you just uograde less eggs at a time

[torn tree]

I see, ty

[sleek stone]

how to get it faster to respawn tho

[torn tree]

there is meal for reduce cooldown of egg

stamp too

[fallow oyster]

what is the ideal end game spice collectiion pet setup?

[white lintel]

Borgar, miasma, forager, converter

[quick granite]

Random question. Does the prayer that increases deathnote kills count for DBs various talents that need kill counts? Like the apocalypse chow stuff or what not.

[white lintel]

yes, but its likely not going to be an overall increase to your kph, you need to test it per map

[grand shuttle]

I seem to remember there being like a trap drone or something? WHere do I get that?

[quick granite]

Gotcha gotcha. Wish there was a way to remotely change your prayers, hah.

[white lintel]

construction

[white lintel]

i expect it to be a qol change someitme

[quick granite]

Hope so, would be nice. I constantly forget about prayers.

...I wonder if it's worth doing the 'no more praying' thing, that you get from gaming.

[white lintel]

Absolutely not

[quick granite]

Even with it meaning you have no downsides?

[white lintel]

yea

the useful prayers youll have equipped, and the rest arent worth your time, none of the good prayers have any meaningful downside

[stable crane]

Morning guys. Quick q - for the 'redox rates' skill of a squire. Does it check the skill 'actively' (all the time) to get the build speed boost or does it only need to have points when I open the construction menu and then I can spec out of it

[quick granite]

Fair enough!

[white lintel]

must have points in it for it to work

are you asking about snapshotting it?

[stable crane]

Yes

Well... I think so

I've read that some skills should be 'invested in' when you open the relevant menus

If thats what snapshotting is 🙂

[white lintel]

thats not exactly what snapshotting is

snapshotting is like for example, you put on a BR obol set, open con menu, close it, switch to DR, and then farm whatever your farming on that map

[lone swan]

is there a way to see what you are missing and need to do in idleon? like a progression guide for your acc

[white lintel]

sometimes you have to enter the map with it, sometimes you open the menu, its weird, and not necesarry to do at all

[atomic fable]

I know this looks like a mess, but I've organised the cogs now for the final setup layout

Do I start to prioritise cog production speed?

[obtuse whale]

exp

[atomic fable]

Like to make the cogs faster

from sources like alchemy and that

[white lintel]

yes, Idleon Toolbox (Idleon Efficiency also exists, but its creators ditched it after w6), and Scoli's autoreviewer are the main ones to look out for, once you get going youll start collecting spreadsheets to use as well

[white lintel]

anything that would make your BR faster makes cogs gen faster

[obtuse whale]

you can also get directional cog with flag speed

[atomic fable]

Oh, like levelling up, etc?

[white lintel]

yes, BR and cog speed are the same thing if im not mistaken

[atomic fable]

I get about 95k per hour on cogs

with the 3 best non-dk

[white lintel]

ok

whats the question then

[atomic fable]

Okay, to be more precise, should I be increasing cog production speed from sources like this?

[stable crane]

Oh gotcha. So snapshotting is more about gear and not about talents/skills

Gear/obols/cards etc

Thanks Arctis

[obtuse whale]

get "Flag speed" with this kind of directional cog

[white lintel]

thats definatley an optoin, but I think it would be better to just move your DKs to purple cogs and let them make the cogs while you click, adn then when your done doing your cog spree, put them back on the board

[white lintel]

hes not talking about flag speed

[atomic fable]

I haven't got to the point I can spam cogs

[white lintel]

try with your DKs making cogs

[wet pier]

does anyone know about construction mastery? I see that at lvl 1000 it gives +100 Max lvl for talent library but I don't see it has any effect on talent book library

[white lintel]

if not purple then do red

[white lintel]

not max book level, the con building

[atomic fable]

162k and 138k

[wet pier]

oooh

[obtuse whale]

you do the lower tier cogs the only comparison between it is the % of directional cogs

[white lintel]

more so the options of them available, low tier cogs can still show up with decent stats

[inland nexus]

Nuget cakes are really annoying to get. I had 2 characters do 8 hours overnight and got nothing. Any way to raise my drop rate more in late world 3?

[white lintel]

vault and OWl

[inland nexus]

My Orion is already on fractal 10

[atomic fable]

I get about 260 cog production per second with the dk's on cogs

[white lintel]

vault

[white lintel]

put them on whatever allows you to spam click

[atomic fable]

That might only be on the 1st cog

[inland nexus]

Already maxed out in late world 2. I guess I've done everything there is to do.

[lone swan]

what are some good ways to increase accuracy?

[inland nexus]

Shaquracy

[white lintel]

the easy ways yes, you might also have some cards, but I expect nothing good.

[atomic fable]

So I need purple or red for a majority of the cogs

[white lintel]

your best bet tbh is to push to w4 to get ES

[lone swan]

huh?

[white lintel]

doesnt matter the color rn, just get decent stats out

[white lintel]

what world are you in

[atomic fable]

Oh like the exp or booster cogs?

[inland nexus]

An alchemy bubble in the green couldran, it gives a multiplicative bonus on how much accuracy you gain from your accuracy stats.

[lone swan]

3 getting close to 4 though

[obtuse whale]

id say fill your board with nooby cogs exp first before doing higher tier cogs

[inland nexus]

Yeah, I pretty got only w1 crystals and w2 chests. It's not much

[lone swan]

oh i see it lmao i just got it

[white lintel]

roo, vault, stamps, alchemy(shaquracy and secondary stat bubbles), work on getting secondary stat.

[atomic fable]

Do I try to get higher exp cogs 1st?

[white lintel]

what else would you get

[atomic fable]

The booster cogs for the boost slots (I'm following the end game setup layout)

[lone swan]

ok thankyou

also why is my liquid upgrades maxed? is it maxed maxed or..

[obtuse whale]

make a new armor then let you other character upgrade it. Example you want to push with warrior remove his armor then let a wizard upgrade it with upgrade stone so it will get Wiz stat for warriors accuracy.

[white lintel]

you get both at the same time, cant really focus what you get.
what I do is just dump clicks to fill the first page. go through and trash all bad xp cogs and leave any directional cogs alive. then i turn trash off and inspect all the directional and compare to what I have and usually delete all of them

[lone swan]

that is very smart i will do that

[white lintel]

this only works with w4 stones onward

bc they give mainstat instead of random stats

[lone swan]

oh guess i cant do it then alright

[white lintel]

focus on getting secondary stat for your pusher

[obtuse whale]

oy ye thought it counts with all stone

[white lintel]

only w4 onward

[astral lava]

Nope, first time knowing this

[lone swan]

is there a way to like show an overview of my acc?

[white lintel]

!it

[candid scarab]

https://idleontoolbox.com/ - Unofficial 3rd party site made by Morojo

[astral lava]

It/IE

[white lintel]

dont use IE, it sucks

[astral lava]

And IE AutoReview tool

[astral lava]

I'm with u

[lone swan]

how do i share it?

[astral lava]

Log in and then open Data and upload ur account and then copy the link

The link will have the first character's name

[atomic fable]

I'm doing red cogs since I can make them decently quick to allow some boost cogs, that fine?

[white lintel]

yes

[astral lava]

Yes

[grand shuttle]

Where is a good place to find talent point builds for my elite class?

[lone swan]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=number_one0242
here it is if anyone wants to help me

[astral lava]

One in tips and tricks

But needs your raw JSON

[white lintel]

how in depth do you want?

[astral lava]

Im pretty good with this but I'm lazy rn

[lone swan]

uh not to much depth just enough

[wheat trout]

Anyone know why theres no world 5 and 6 channel?

[white lintel]

there is

[white lintel]

ok, anything specific you want to work on or feel lost with?

[astral lava]

Maybe check #👀read-me

And react with peanuts

Nvm

It's not for w5-w6

[lone swan]

Acuracy dmg mostly

[astral lava]

What do u see this as? #endgame-chat-w7🐟

[lone swan]

i want to be able to one shot the mobs in late w3

[wheat trout]

Yea endgame talk but once theres more worlds out if there is gonna be its not gonna be endgame anymore

[inland nexus]

I looked at a couple of things. Get your drop rate from arcade, drop rate is the most useful stat in the entire game. It's not much, but it will help you a lot in the long run.

[wheat trout]

Is this a thread or a channel that just doesnt pop up for me normally?

[white lintel]

give everyone trapping boxes and worship skulls and for skulls make sure theyre as high a tier as you can make

[white lintel]

channel

[atomic fable]

During the cog building, should I go back to player menu every few minutes or so to avoid crashing losing a ton of progress?

[lone swan]

didnt know that drop rate was worth trying to get but alright

[lone swan]

yeah i have done some of that but cant be bothered

[white lintel]

I would say I dont think youll crash but I got whitescreened for the first time ever on steam but I lost 0 progress

[atomic fable]

There's a known thing when spamming cogs (I've heard this) where it could cause white screens

[white lintel]

be bothered

[astral lava]

I got it like... 3 times

[white lintel]

stop building the 3d printer more, and work on your boulder roller tower, that guys important for TD and lvlin up the printer only gives you more slots for characters and you only have 6 rn

[atomic fable]

Starting to get there with the cogs (28% is now minimum except boost cogs)

[white lintel]

any holiday boost food is super valuble, dont use it like this, only use 1 at a time per afk session

[sleek stone]

dang fury relic just too good

might aswll tryna open the eldritch

[white lintel]

you working on filling up that big space right?

[atomic fable]

Yes with the boost cogs

[sleek stone]

time to save up my 20 checkout to get 175 lv

[white lintel]

oh I see your vision

[somber depot]

Bets?

[white lintel]

2 fails

[sleek stone]

4 fails

[astral lava]

1

1-0 fails

[somber depot]

Correct'

[white lintel]

you dont need to do this, but if you moved your guys to the middle it would give them more space to get boosted by directionals. also at your stage at least get some base cogs in there even if you dont have any directional so you can stop working on clicking cogs rn and continue later without a big gap in your xp

[somber depot]

For that I gives you doot

[astral lava]

Knew it

[astral lava]

Wha

[inland nexus]

Your prints could use a lot of work. Your barb needs to start printing out bloaches like crazy for your shaquracy and tier 3. I advice you to rush golden fishing rod, upgrade it with world 3 tools and then rush platinum fishing rod. With maxed drop rate vault, iron rex rings, platinum fishing rod, your high strength and maxed sample size print, you can get 35k fishing efficency and a 70+ bloach print for world 3.

[white lintel]

oop

[atomic fable]

yeah, maybe pretty soon I should start just using exp cogs

[somber depot]

Yah

[astral lava]

Joking?

[somber depot]

Come to salt 3

[white lintel]

ooooooooooooooh

[somber depot]

Nope

[astral lava]

Ayyyy

[white lintel]

w mans

[sleek stone]

w

gg tho

[astral lava]

What map

[somber depot]

You testing subject

[astral lava]

Yes

[lone swan]

35k? i have like 2k

[somber depot]

Im wah game booli

[sleek stone]

[astral lava]

Idk what to do

[somber depot]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE SAYING MY PET IS UNTRADEABLE

[inland nexus]

Yeah, that's cause your fishing build is bad

[astral lava]

e

[lone swan]

danm.

[somber depot]

Sad

[inland nexus]

I don't know if you got the fishing gear, but if you do, equip it immediately and get out a print on your barb

[astral lava]

Alr then, I'ma go back to fishing

[lone swan]

alright ill see what gear i got

[atomic fable]

I did end up white screening, but didn't lose much progress

[inland nexus]

This is the relative build you should be aiming for. You can get a better necklace than me too. And you already got a better weapon

Just make sure to replace your militia helmet with a viking one once you can.

[somber depot]

Todays big achievement

Also that crit chance looks perfect :p

[astral lava]

Why do I think your defense is low?

[astral lava]

.

[lone swan]

alright ima do that now

[white lintel]

crit chance is also low

[astral lava]

Nah for me its not but defense is..

[white lintel]

not that bad considering the anti def prayers

[thorny zinc]

finally another god

[white lintel]

me next

[dull jewel]

Anyone have any tips for the world 3 tower defense and the snowballs that stun your towers

[white lintel]

krakens if you have them

[thorny zinc]

so should i link all the characters that are doing divinity with him right?

[dull jewel]

what do krackens do

[white lintel]

if you want lab active yes

[white lintel]

summon minons that knock back enemies

[thorny zinc]

i mean im pushing so it will help a lot

[astral lava]

Summons minions to deal knockback

[lone swan]

im at 9.26k with my full fishing build rn

[dull jewel]

ah ty

[white lintel]

youll like third god too, its a dmg boost and another 2x kpk bonus

[thorny zinc]

damn

[atomic fable]

What do I do with these cogs?

[inland nexus]

Respec your star talents for sample size. Go into the last pond in map you unlock at fishing 15+, get out a print. You don't need money% on your skilling build.

[white lintel]

trash them

[atomic fable]

Alright

[white lintel]

well, you could use them but I never did, not sure how helpful they are

[lone swan]

how do i get the bloaches sample though

do i just gotta wait until i catch one then use the sample?

[atomic fable]

Got my 1st one of this cog and it's exp boost!

[astral lava]

What prayers do u have equipped for that character

[inland nexus]

Just spam the sampler until you get it.

[hollow siren]

WHat should i make my 9th character, I have 1 of each elite and 1 maestro but 2DK

[astral lava]

That decreases ur defense

[white lintel]

nice, those can be a pain to get

[lone swan]

i also need for fishing eff for the last fishing place

[inland nexus]

Not the last fishing place, the pond nearest to the portal to the last fishing place.

[atomic fable]

Went back to player menu to cloudsave (If it does that)

[lone swan]

16 bloaches / h 😦

[atomic fable]

so if I do end up white screening again (Assuming doing that does a cloudsave) I'd not lose any significant progress

[white lintel]

Considering the button says cloudsave, I’m sure it does

[keen axle]

You could do a bit of kangaroo in W2, adds a nice bit of efficiency if not done already

[inland nexus]

That's alright for now. It will add up eventually. Double dip in your 3d print with them and you got 32 per hour. Ohh yeah, make sure your fishing equipment is specked for catching them specifically

[inland nexus]

His roo is pretty weak, but it's kind of time gated, so not much he can improve upon there.

[keen axle]

I been jailed for the past 3 days it's not too bad

[lone swan]

yeah it is

[inland nexus]

Alright, that's good. Use this print till you get your golden fishing pool and take another print there, to aim for your platinum fishing pool.

[white lintel]

Which jail?

[keen axle]

Roo and divinity

[lone swan]

wdym golden fishing pool

[keen axle]

Pretty sure he meant pole

[white lintel]

^

[lone swan]

oh yeah i got the gold one

[inland nexus]

yep

[lone swan]

platnium one is to much bloaches

[keen axle]

for now

It'll ramp, don't worry

[inland nexus]

Yeah, the bloach grind early on is rough, but it ramps up.

[lone swan]

i hope so

[inland nexus]

Make sure you take your sample with fishing food too.

[keen axle]

You can double print over night and you should have enough for a plat rod

[lone swan]

went to 21/h with the food woo

[inland nexus]

W

Also get the 7th slot. Your barb is comically overlevled compared to your other characters, especially your shaman. I don't know what you've been doing with him, but bro is only lvl 48.

[alpine scarab]

when shd l touch sigils

[white lintel]

this feel so good holy moly

[atomic fable]

Okay, if I want exp multi boost cogs, I have to do superb or better

[inland nexus]

I meant squire. Though your shaman isn't much better too.

[atomic fable]

So I should stop doing yellow cogs?

[barren ruin]

After having good alchemy

[white lintel]

Try red

[alpine scarab]

is that after unlocking all bubbles?

[lone swan]

yeah it is pretty bad lmao

[barren ruin]

Yeah , that is good enough

[dense peak]

how many bubbles are there ?

[white lintel]

5 * 6 * 4 I think

[astral lava]

120

[inland nexus]

120 total. I had to count them recently.

[dense peak]

ok thx

[hidden violet]

finally 200 tentecycle

[somber depot]

Bets?

[astral lava]

Does Beefy even do anything for u?

[somber depot]

A decent amount surprisingl

Full gs

With beefy

Without

So like 4qq

[astral lava]

Bet the pants were the last thing

[white lintel]

You need more DR

[somber depot]

I needs

[astral lava]

He needs

[somber depot]

Nah it was the helmet and the boots

[astral lava]

Bru

[somber depot]

Decent

[modern narwhal]

does anyone know for the void walker quest part 3, does the 12 million have to be “fresh kills” or is it the kills my maestro had before and reaching 12 mil

[somber depot]

The latter

[atomic fable]

I just realised the build rate is = cog build rate

[somber depot]

You can grind 12m kills before the quest starts but it has to be on mman or jman

[astral lava]

Had before I would say

Mmmm

[somber depot]

Yummy

[white lintel]

I think when I got whitescreened earlier I lost 4k gcakes wtf

[sleek stone]

Sheesh at last

Does tentacle eye works on cranium cooking?

[atomic fable]

At this point, I'm starting to only get normal exp cogs

more often than not

[shadow lark]

Yes

[sleek stone]

Ohh nice bout to farm some liquid

Gonna pump those bubble and vials

[shadow lark]

Check yo active bar

[sleek stone]

Yah i use the meta

4 skill

[shadow lark]

Sick

Check out the uhh

Alchemy PO Box

[atomic fable]

and I whitescreened again...

[sleek stone]

Yeah gonna wait for po

[atomic fable]

Why is boost cogs so hard to obtain

[sleek stone]

Or i should restart

Since i got reset box from w3 quest

[somber depot]

4k? I feel sorry for ya

[atomic fable]

Is it worth keeping my last 2 characters in yellow cogs or nah

[steel nymph]

smt tell me this isn't a legit account

[shadow lark]

i do, you get the occasional big xp cog

[sleek stone]

now i know why people like using bubo

[hidden violet]

just started cooking with bubo. AMAZING

[sleek stone]

yeah lol

hope its 100k average tho for first time to try

[astral lava]

Just a bad alchemy

[atomic fable]

Decided to stop here, is this good?

[steel nymph]

makes sense

[atomic fable]

Some are exp boost, some are build rate, and a couple are flaggy rate

[steel nymph]

nah not good

[atomic fable]

Still?! 😭

I'm having trouble spamming cogs still

[astral lava]

Not untill it's endgame setup

[steel nymph]

wut trouble

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml?pli=1

[atomic fable]

It takes multiple seconds per cog

[steel nymph]

and then

[atomic fable]

Ik the layout btw, but it's not giving me boost cogs

and it's like 5 seconds per red cog

[oak lynx]

Bruh

[steel nymph]

rng issue then

[steel nymph]

use bb

done with baby troll eclipsing today moving on to woodlins

[eternal ridge]

Hi
In w4, i dont quite get this part, cmimw
If i need accuracy (lets say, warrior), i need to give my armor to mage, then upgrade it to increase mage main stat (which is WIS), and give it back to warrior?

[steel nymph]

well yea that's what it says

lava made these

[digital radish]

do i make this stuff for all?

[eternal ridge]

well yea not everyone speaks english for their mother language so i just want to confirm

[steel nymph]

ur gonna have to make them eventually why not make it now

english ain't even my mother toungue anyways

[eternal ridge]

aight smart guy

but thats all
if i understand correctly then good
if not then welp

[steel nymph]

ye u smart

next time just gamble it all

[digital radish]

why i'll have to make them for all?

[steel nymph]

if u think it's right just go with it

[steel nymph]

uh

[thorny zinc]

you will want to collect souls and use traps with everyone

[steel nymph]

thank you for answering that

[digital radish]

oh

[thorny zinc]

more characters = more resources and you will need a lot of them

[digital radish]

that was dumb

[steel nymph]

[digital radish]

but doesn't the wizard collect souls for all?

[steel nymph]

yes and no

there would be a point where you would not want to do that

[thorny zinc]

leveling up skills for every character is important too because you get talent points

crafting better equipment for everyone helps with stats too

we are going to w6 soon (10 years)

[lapis loom]

is the equinox package worth buying? in terms of what it gives?

[paper galleon]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[true hamlet]

Best in slot chat ring, and looks cool too

Bar fill rate doesn't matter a lot early on but can save days later on

[trim bear]

guys any tips for arena 115 with just 4 pets?

[sleek stone]

how tentacle eye work? is it also got affect by multikill per tier?

[fast hamlet]

I'm extremely confused even when I read wiki, how does the refinery level work? And how to level it up,how to fasten the process

[true hamlet]

Refinery speed% speeds it up, ranking up too, do it by hitting max capacity on a salt

Basically, fill the bar to the end to rank it up

[next shell]

No

[fast hamlet]

I see, and what is auto refine btw

Nvm

[thorny zinc]

you can use this and there is another image of how to do it but i dont have it

[fast hamlet]

How to turn off auto refine

[true hamlet]

Click wrench

What does peapod do

[fast hamlet]

What %

[thorny zinc]

yeah its a wrench press it until says 0

[true hamlet]

Your chioice tbf

Doesn't really matter

[thorny zinc]

it is matter

[wet oracle]

its me, ya boi, back with the dumb questions. does breeding afk progress also progress spices?

[thorny zinc]

he can ruin his refinery

[wet oracle]

finally got enough pet power to get 2 of the last 3 spices and i want to get those meals cooking XD

[true hamlet]

Auto refine% does NOT

[fast hamlet]

Is vman sampling still work?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[astral lava]

?wiki Breeding Peapod is op

[paper tusk]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Breeding Peapod is op

[astral lava]

-# Fighting/Primary: Shoot 10 tiny peas which deal 75% damage. Pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow pow!!!
-# Secondary: When in combat, all pets have a 25% chance to shoot another basic attack. This can happen multiple times in a row.

[sand pasture]

This is for the highest level of kitchen or if I have 3 player with 30 lvl each it gives me 60% x 3 = 180% ?

[wet oracle]

its for each kitchen

so kitchen 1 with 100 levels would get + 600% (im bad at math so if its wrong LOL) but kitchen 2 with only like 20 levels would only get 120% as far as i understand it

[robust marsh]

Hmmm

[wet oracle]

at least ive never noticed a difference carrying over to other kitchens but also usually only looking at one when im doing upgrades shrug

[sand pasture]

ohh ok it is for kitchen, not for cooking . I missread lol

thanks

[wet oracle]

yeah lol its a very strong meal you should always be tryign to push its level

[dense pine]

its table levels

yall already got it mb

[sleek stone]

so end gamers are not run out of liquid huh

how much time does lv 200 cranium cooking bubble decrease?

[wet oracle]

89%

[sleek stone]

damn could be 28-30k

[wet oracle]

i think its like 39k roughly

[sleek stone]

oh yeah that

[wet oracle]

(thats where im at lol)

[sleek stone]

i just do on lv 130 and its 44k

also not maxing the mana PO

sheesh jump up from 40k to 60k sec

[wet oracle]

nice

[atomic fable]

Any idea why auto review now recommends all wizard towers on A tier ever since I got atom collider

Is it because of the damage increase after level 50 most likely?

[vagrant oar]

Yes

[atomic fable]

So it should become a priority, Fair

[vagrant oar]

Yes cos atom build up really slowly 10 lvl for 1 up

[sleek stone]

does it worth it to use the liquid lab node for cranium cooking?

[dense egret]

No

[sleek stone]

ahh okay

[reef oak]

What does the bottom woods mean? I know blue is 2x, purple is from god x3. What does star gold mean?

[dense pine]

purple is 6x (god and lab) gold is 3x (just god)

[analog timber]

For lab what is the best sport to stop leveling

[surreal bane]

should i buy printer collection slots?

[dense pine]

early on nah

def get crystal printer if you havent tho

[dense pine]

like what lab lvl?

[analog timber]

Yep

[dense pine]

if youre still w4 then just put everyone in lab except your pusher, see what level you get by the time youre w5 lol

ideally you want enough reach to get all the bonuses tho, later on lvl 210 on all characters

[analog timber]

Now am w6 but lab lv just 15

[dense pine]

then aim for 210 while using goat god

[sweet drum]

When my brown turns run……PAINTS😈

[paper harbor]

anyone has an up to date TD setup ?

for all worlds ?

[fast hamlet]

Cringe

[analog timber]

Ok i have a doot need find god more?? I have only 3 god now

[dense pine]

then just put everyone in lab, remember to change praying styles for more div xp

[analog timber]

https://tenor.com/view/azuki-beanz-golden-golden-beanz-thank-you-gif-12052497167470573793

[worn raptor]

You only need purrmep

You have all major and minor links
The problem is, have gods major and minor but no blessings

[hasty elbow]

Fixing all the traps, all good. Go to alchemy and got a new bubble XD now I have to do it all owere agine.

[surreal bane]

how did i get iphone box and gems envelop ingame?

was there any event?

[bronze ferry]

you can get gem envelopes from quest, iirc you can only get iPhone box from event

[surreal bane]

it was in my inv when i went to rift 1st time

[bronze ferry]

then you get both from that unlock rift quests then

[tawny fiber]

any advice on increasing kills in a world?

[wheat cove]

ey, whats the MAX level?

[shadow lark]

there is none

[wheat cove]

so u could go to lvl 999999 if u want?

[inland nexus]

Kind off. There is a soft cap in the game.

[shadow lark]

considering the highest total account level is currently 6.7k, it would take you a while

[wheat cove]

k, so it IS possible if u have infinite time :DDDD

[inland nexus]

Ye

[worn raptor]

More dmg for reach every tier
More multikill per tier
More afk fighting gain rate

Complete skulls from deathnote

[inland nexus]

And multikill stamp

[wheat cove]

also, its febuary 25, shouldnt the valentines event be over?

oh wait, it must be time zones

[inland nexus]

Yeah, time zones.

[hasty elbow]

So 1 of mars?

[shadow lark]

3 years

[hasty elbow]

that would be nice XD

[wheat cove]

oh wow

XDDDDDDD

fun fact: i was 1 pixel away from the jackpot on the valentines wheel

[shadow lark]

skill issue

[inland nexus]

I managed to get it on my archer.

[wheat cove]

WHA-

XDDDDDD

[inland nexus]

Lmao, crazy! I got the valentines day storage chest 3 times in a row, but you completely destroyed me in luck xd.

[wheat cove]

eeyyyy, me too!

i was so sad that the chests dont stack ;-;

[inland nexus]

I wish there was trading for it so that I could distribute them among my friends, which got hella unlucky during the event.

But that will be ripe for abuse, so better not.

[wheat cove]

yeah, or at least exchange it for something else

[inland nexus]

One of them got the pink reward 10 times in a row.

[wheat cove]

oof.

[inland nexus]

He was also the same guy that failed a 50/50 chance for a bubble 12 times in a row.

[wheat cove]

literally, from 5 seconds ago XDDDD

[wheat cove]

his account is rigged

[inland nexus]

More like his entire life is rigged. Bro's been failing 50/50s for 3 years in genshin now.

[wheat cove]

XDDDDDDDDD

wow, thats LARGE

[inland nexus]

you are getting stronger.

Almost to the point where you can consistently 1 tap chaotic Amarok

[wheat cove]

yeah.

most damage i ever did was 15.9 M

i wonder if its possible to get 72 hour time candies from valentines boxes 🤔

[velvet anchor]

I’ve only gotten like the 2 bottom ones the whole time, this whole event I’ve only managed to get like 27 points so far and I play active every day to get boxes

[tawny fiber]

does unending energy work while active?

[ancient tusk]

hello, i got 7 characters and almost on getting 8th, i have every class x1 including journeyman, what should i get for my 8th?

[tawny fiber]

whatever your missing if that makes sence

if you need barb skills for items that if smithing or archer shills them whatever gets you what you need to move forward

[tawny fiber]

any takers to this?

[ancient tusk]

so for future planning for 9 characters, is getting 3x of base classes and 1x journeyman enough?

[surreal bane]

how many megafish are there?

[tawny fiber]

should be dont see a point in haveing 2jm also you able to get the next upgreade?

[ancient tusk]

which upgrade?

[tawny fiber]

can you get the golden one?

meastro

[ancient tusk]

i dont have maestro yet

i just unlocked w3

[wheat cove]

u can have 2 journeymans????

[tawny fiber]

get it as soon as for the bonus to skills

[ancient tusk]

i saw posts with people make new accs with 10x maestros

[tawny fiber]

if you do it right i beleve so

just have to do the quests again

[ancient tusk]

also how do i get the red dust for cog and building

[tawny fiber]

what you missing to get them

[wheat cove]

why do i have 2 crystal custards.......

[tawny fiber]

refinery

[shadow lark]

warrior

[wheat cove]

why did the game crash right before i killed the 2 crystal custards ;-;

[ancient tusk]

okay i will go as warr 7th, arch and mage 8 9 then

[humble fox]

hey. got into W4 yesterday and thought my Gobo quest to learn about recipes was bugged so I cancelled the quest after learning the first spice and took the quest again - do I now need to wait the 16h to learn the 2nd recipe? Is there a way to speed this up (used the ladles he gave me for free)

[ancient tusk]

and possibly another journeyman as 10th but i have a logn way to go im lv 113 max atm

[tawny fiber]

afk 15 mins there

[shadow lark]

do not do 2 journeymen

[tawny fiber]

i had same issue

[ancient tusk]

so 1 is absolute enough

[shadow lark]

you want 3 of each class

[tawny fiber]

it will then be done

[ancient tusk]

okay thank you alot

[humble fox]

I cancelled and retook the quest so I need to re-learn a new recipe to complete the quest

[tawny fiber]

no just afk

[ancient tusk]

i have to check refinery i havent gotten into it yet for red dust

trying to build printer

[tawny fiber]

trust message back in 20 mins after afk there

[ancient tusk]

also when i got my journeyman ididnt get the skillbook beginner best class

i think its still bugged

[tawny fiber]

also does unending energy work while active?

[humble fox]

I can't post a screenshot but it's
Start Recipe 2/1
Finish recipe 0/1
Afk time 29/15

[ancient tusk]

the rock is keep giving quest kapow instead

[shadow lark]

well finish a recipe

[humble fox]

if you read above I'm asking methods for speeding that up

[shadow lark]

there is none except ladles

[tawny fiber]

make a nothing one also gets an achevment so no salts

only needs 20 fire

[humble fox]

cheers, will only take 4h thats a lot better 🙂

can actually start w4 after that's done

[inland nexus]

Right now your best bet is optimizing your early construction 3 set on cogs and the rest on the board. Your construction will start rampig up soon.

[tawny fiber]

maybe candys work as cooking has exp if afked there idk tho

[humble fox]

tried a candy, didn't work unfortunately

[tawny fiber]

you done killroy?

[sleek pollen]

the waiting game

[tawny fiber]

as skulls can get ladels

[humble fox]

yeah did him as soon as I got to w2, only started couple days ago so i'll need to wait 'til whenever he resets

[sleek pollen]

he said it, only ladle can give instant cooking gains like candy

[thorny zinc]

starting to get super cogs finally

[inland nexus]

W

[humble fox]

is there a website similar to idleon toolbox for optimal cards per build or activity?

[wheat cove]

how long does this cooldown take??!?!??!

[thorny zinc]

98k seconds

[wheat cove]

its been 17 hours!!!!!!

dont tell me, 98K seconds ONLINE??!??!

[inland nexus]

48 hours.

[wheat cove]

😭

and i just used it without thinking XDDDDDD

[thorny zinc]

happens

[inland nexus]

DW, that's what I did with cranium cooking yesterday too.

[wheat cove]

XDDDDDD

just got my first divine knight!!!

"if all enemies are dead, revive all instantly"

wow, OP

[inland nexus]

One of the best active classes in the game.

[wheat cove]

yeah, i can probrably use this to farm out the first enemy in W1

to get even more effect from that one buff in the lab......

[shadow lark]

do that way later

[sleek pollen]

gmush? not worth

[sleek pollen]

now get bubo then bm

[buoyant slate]

i just got the Maestro, which skill should i rush first for him?

[wheat cove]

i have bubo

[sleek pollen]

ahh good then

[inland nexus]

Later on, right now your multikill isn't high enough from what I've seen. Get Bubo and do it with him.

[wheat cove]

oh k, ill use my bubo then

[shadow lark]

whats the strat for ladling, just have each kitchen cook a different meal?

[sleek pollen]

all as usual easiest are w1 and hardest are w2

[shadow lark]

dont kill any mob right now that isnt w4

[sleek pollen]

100k ladle? yeah each kitchen doing a different meal

like all cooking speed meal, gfood, maybe attack speed if you have some kitchen left then idk

[wheat cove]

i have every elite class, except ES and BM

[shadow lark]

nah im a baby cook just trying to get some void plats for atom

[shadow lark]

get those and then push with es to w5

[wheat cove]

k.

[sleek pollen]

damn you telling me you got DK, ES and BM as last elite? quite literally the most useful ones you could've get, with bubo as well

[wheat cove]

XDDDD.

wait, ill try to remember the order i got them in...

[sleek pollen]

DK or ES, your choice, DK is tankier, ES isn't but some find pushing with him easier

also you wanna active push with those 2

[inland nexus]

I still don't know every elite class by anocrym. Which ones are ES and BM?

[shadow lark]

half of w4 chat struggles with accuracy, and dk needs 1.5x the normal amount. thats why es

[wheat cove]

ES = elemental sorcerrer

BM = beast master

[sleek pollen]

wizard and hunter's elite

[inland nexus]

I see why they are cooking you for not getting them.

[inland nexus]

Thanks

[sleek pollen]

beast master help with breeding, bubo help with lab, hence you want them as your first elite usually to make breeding and lab a bit easier

[wheat cove]

so i got: SB then BC, BB, and then, DK

[sleek pollen]

dang

[sleek pollen]

fun fact, for some reason bubonic conjuror is called bubo by most and not by his acronym like other elite class

[wheat cove]

XDDDDDD

[inland nexus]

I thought BB was the best first option in w4 to improve your cooking, no?

[inland nexus]

Bubo does sound funnier doe

[sleek pollen]

ehh you don't cook with BB until later, you practically gain close to nothing early on, better have BB afk in lab than kitchen

[inland nexus]

I see, thanks. Must be a new thing.

[wheat cove]

before going to bed, i just leave all my characters in the lab, is that a good idea? XDDDDD

[sleek pollen]

yes

[shadow lark]

not only before bed, always

[sleek pollen]

lab jail is eternal

[wheat cove]

take a break for a week or something 🤣

[sleek pollen]

until you unlock another jail

[shadow lark]

and then another jail

and one last jail

and then back to the first jail

[sleek pollen]

from w4+ your char are gonna be in jail forever, tho changing from time to time

[wheat cove]

XDDDDD

[dense pine]

not even true

[inland nexus]

And then one that is the middle of being built

[wheat cove]

jailbirds

[sleek pollen]

yuh uh

[dense pine]

210

[zenith hare]

I've not been in lab for like 7 months

[dense pine]

exactly.

[sleek pollen]

meant for w4 peeps

[zenith hare]

correct for w4

[dense pine]

...its still not permenant tho.

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/bmGGR.gif

[inland nexus]

Yeah, because sometimes they have to get out to take samples of things

[dense pine]

what spell did you cast

[sleek pollen]

||french|| curse probably

[dense pine]

😭

[honest pumice]

what level should chars be at before bothering with lab? or when to bother with lab all together?:P

[sleek pollen]

woops lmao yeah

[dense pine]

put them in as soon as you can.

[inland nexus]

BB ignition

[sleek pollen]

shouldn't talk about that

[dense pine]

...i do tho.

[sleek pollen]

I know

[dense pine]

except your pusher

[wheat cove]

lab, till lvl 75 lab, each character, right?

[sleek pollen]

lab till you're w5

[honest pumice]

my barb is still zow'ing & the others just gathering xp I guess & sometimes sample

[zenith hare]

ehhh not till 75 UNLESS you have lots of chips

[sleek pollen]

then its another new jail

[wheat cove]

XDDDDDDDDDDD

[zenith hare]

75 is properganda from the whales

[sleek pollen]

ehh zow in w4

[wheat cove]

aiight, ill leave my characters in the lab

see u in 4 months or so? XDDDDD

[honest pumice]

too soon?

[low arrow]

You get lab jail on w4 then div jail on w5

[zenith hare]

not all, just all but one when you get their elites

[sleek pollen]

BB doesn't need dmg he sits in lab, unless you pushing with him then proly a few zow a worth ye

[wheat cove]

im pushing with a siegebreaker 🤣

[sleek pollen]

check that out meme

[honest pumice]

that's where I'm at now , SB is pushing most of it

[zenith hare]

ew second sb

[inland nexus]

Wait, if lab is the jail of w4 then Roo and Owl are the jail of w2 and 1 respectively. Except they only lock one character and for like 5 hours instead of permanently.

[zenith hare]

and fyi: sb is arguably second worst at pushing

tbh BM is likely better early on

that's how bad sb is

[wheat cove]

siege breaker is my first character XDDDDDDDD

[low arrow]

They are a mini jail but get bonus faster

[sleek pollen]

you want all char in lab to get the lab node, really good ones are x2 prints and x2 kill, making your pushing faster

[zenith hare]

sb relies on vman for him to get good pushing power

[dense pine]

bro forgot 3x ref speed

[honest pumice]

what do you need as second archer then, another BM?

[zenith hare]

you don't get a 3rd archer.

[honest pumice]

pff

[sleek pollen]

ye but when I say this people would tell even with the x2 print the ref cant keep up so sometimes I put x3 ref sometimes I don't

[zenith hare]

it's been sub optimal since hole released

[dense pine]

crazy

[sleek pollen]

ikr

[dense pine]

it cant be that hard to upkeep ref bruh

[wheat cove]

one sec, ill get my ES this instant, theese time candies ive been saving will help XDDDDD

[sleek pollen]

when you rush and ignore ref proly a bit yeah

[zenith hare]

make sure to have 100% acc

[wheat cove]

yeah, i made sure XDDD

[zenith hare]

some people don't then complain

[sleek pollen]

why kph low?
-> survivability : 0%
-> acc : not 100%

[zenith hare]

yup!

[shadow lark]

ladles spent successfully

[honest pumice]

well too late for that then I guess, can't swap classes to something else

[shadow lark]

[zenith hare]

yet

[wheat cove]

u sure can spend 1000 gems to ^^

[honest pumice]

every guide I found said DK -> ES & SB after journeyman

[dense pine]

[zenith hare]

that's only swap to bm which is worse

[zenith hare]

yes and that guide is outdated. esp since a master class has released

[wheat cove]

awww even after 7 hours of time candy, my wizard still needs 8k kills for the donut map

[zenith hare]

and sb has always been told as 10th

[sleek pollen]

that was old meta

[zenith hare]

it was sb/bb as 10th

sb became extremely bad after hole, he has 0 use now

[honest pumice]

yea, not like this game explains anything 😁 how can you even know without searching everywhere

[zenith hare]

it's fine

but do double check ur guides

!gems

which command is that bad gem list?

[wheat cove]

oh no, my 1st character has 0 use XDDDD

[zenith junco]

!shop

[candid scarab]

🚫 Nano, that command is disabled in this channel.

[zenith junco]

!gemshop

[zenith hare]

second sb.

[zenith junco]

thats the one right?

[zenith hare]

yeah that list is VERY outdated

doesn't even have w5 shite

[sleek pollen]

pop cat hat lmao

[wheat cove]

u can get that for free XDDDD

[zenith hare]

almost

:/

a week of better printer is trash why do people do this

[shadow lark]

well they did cash this week

[thorny zinc]

because the majority of players have trash printing

[shadow lark]

just like real life voters