midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[jolly kiln]

ok so Ill prob stop there then

[indigo stratus]

To get to 17 takes minimum a year, 18 takes 3 years, 19 takes like a decade

[jolly kiln]

thats a bit aways for me

[jolly kiln]

sheesh

[slender lichen]

also just got 7th megafeather

[thorny zinc]

this kangaroo is cooked

[jolly kiln]

yea it is

a bit cooked

[thorny zinc]

3 more mega fish and i am finally done

[jolly kiln]

im on normal reset not even 10 and past that

I go far as I can then reset(yes I got to like e24 b4 resetting for the e20 one)

[thorny zinc]

idk if i should go for 15 here tho

[slender lichen]

at least vault helps a lil with my cripling neglegence of roo

[jolly kiln]

it just made my non negligence of it make my progress go brrr

[boreal olive]

hi i uploaded 2 people to lab, how do they gain experience?

[jolly kiln]

passive as they are uploaded

[thorny zinc]

just leave them there

[boreal olive]

thx

[slender lichen]

well what im deciding to do is take the time that i would be using for waiting for shiny farms to finish (20 minute traps) and using that to just farm out orion and roo

[jolly kiln]

this game hates me rn

over 50 tries at 1m%+ per shiny in roo(literally instant)

no blue

[heady goblet]

is it worth it to reset feather and fish with the megas?

[indigo stratus]

the % doesn't effect the chance to get each color fish

[jolly kiln]

yea but it gives more tries

[slender lichen]

gamblecore

[jolly kiln]

and im spamming it

[indigo stratus]

you mean the tarfish upgrade?

[slender lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/idle-death-gamble-domain-expansion-jjk-gif-6491542548589389366

[digital eagle]

thats only determined by tartarfish upgrade

[slender lichen]

how it feels to gamble on fish:

[thorny zinc]

wdym?

[jolly kiln]

im spamming this button

[jolly kiln]

I got that up a bit

[indigo stratus]

the chance to get blue is increased mostly by the "extra fish chance" tarfish

[jolly kiln]

always do

[digital eagle]

to fill up the entire bar you need +500% extra

[heady goblet]

I reset the feather once, and fish 0, is it worth resetting for the megas?

[jolly kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-my-honest-reaction-damn-skull-skeleton-gif-15885937969029652188

this is me when I do it

[slender lichen]

also 8th megafeather

[jolly kiln]

I got over 15mil purple at ~50k per

0 blue

is what it feels like

[indigo stratus]

Sometimes I get to billions of purple without any blue, it's just a low chance to get blue

[thorny zinc]

yes. megas are the goal. you should go for at least 11 mega feathers and 8 megafish

[jolly kiln]

gamblecore

[digital eagle]

11 fractals or 11 megas

[slender lichen]

the crippling gambling addiction is real

[jolly kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/gamblecore-stickman-casino-gamble-gif-7118676210396292522

[heady goblet]

alright thank you

[jolly kiln]

me getting blues

[thorny zinc]

fractal

i will prob go for 15 and stop for a while

[jolly kiln]

similar to waht I was thinkin of doin

how long does 15-> 16 take

minimum

[thorny zinc]

idk but i dont think it takes that much

and its probably worth it

[jolly kiln]

I know 17+ takes forever

finally

got a blue w/ 2 10x mults

the first blue came w/ em

[indigo stratus]

15->16 takes about 3.5 months if optimal

beyond that takes years

[jolly kiln]

dear god yea ill stop at 15

[thorny zinc]

ngl i will just go for 100 all stats then stop

[elfin grail]

where are the eggs for breeding in w4 located?

[slender lichen]

9th megafeather

[jolly kiln]

I care more about the drop rate so ill stop whenever it feels good probably somewhere in 15 fractal

[indigo stratus]

you mean the egg items? only quests give them

[thorny zinc]

you are right

[elfin grail]

oh i should ask, where is the "egg nest station"?

[jolly kiln]

welp I got my req to stop my daily roo for now

as now its a waiting game for shiny % and thetar

[thorny zinc]

its annoying that you cant acces with quick ref so you need to be there and do nothing

[jolly kiln]

yea it is

[thorny zinc]

but i guess it pays off

[jolly kiln]

wooo

[thorny zinc]

damn

[slender lichen]

so what do fractal feathers and rainbow fish do?

[thorny zinc]

i should unlock it too

[jolly kiln]

+600 caps/hr per slot w/ just that

[digital eagle]

they multiply all the permenant bonuses you get

[jolly kiln]

this is good for earlier right?

[west pilot]

1 week or so

[lone swan]

spending 400 gems just for storage so i can craft an ice hammer is probaly the worst thing to do with gems

[indigo stratus]

fishes give like double accuracy, damage, everything

[jolly kiln]

a week? I assume thats bc of vault?

[west pilot]

Literal cap

[slender lichen]

so thats why roo is op....

[west pilot]

Indeed

I'm 7 days away from 17

[jolly kiln]

yeap

[jolly kiln]

nice

[indigo stratus]

You can do it faster if you are doing it daily but...

[west pilot]

Nah, vault push it so bad

[indigo stratus]

I think the vault changed it yeah

it's at least 7x as fast now

[west pilot]

You need like 2days to do the early resets

And then just wait the big

[jolly kiln]

one more day for this stamp

doing my daily hearts at rats bc I feel like it

[keen lynx]

is there a fast way to farm obol fragments?

[jolly kiln]

this feels low(its nearly all just my base line too)

[west pilot]

You'll have to do pop obols one day

[jolly kiln]

does drop rate affect these?

or just how many you kill ingoring multikill

[thorny zinc]

finally second character full gear (dont mind the weapon i dont have red salt)

[static belfry]

sadly, not really
you can get a lot of obols from mining though

[west pilot]

I believe it's base kill

Dr proly affects it idk, lava nerfed the drop so it should be decent

[indigo stratus]

define fast

[jolly kiln]

it takes me

[keen lynx]

well anything above 0 a minute

[jolly kiln]

like 40 mins to max it w/ auto killing

on literally any map

[indigo stratus]

Plenty of mobs drop obols, you just need high drop rate boosts

[west pilot]

Be grateful last event at your point took like 4-5hrs +

Lmao

[west pilot]

I would do crystals on w2 tbh

[jolly kiln]

w1 crystals can be nice if u need those statues but thats it

[west pilot]

You have the gold luck ones and dices

[indigo stratus]

if you'ree active farming obols use ES

[west pilot]

That's only for pop obols

[keen lynx]

with the shaman you can get it done around 5-10 mins using cc

[jolly kiln]

I got worse results when I did try shaman

they refused to drop at all

took 2hrs that day

[keen lynx]

i have a ton of dice obols but not enough fragments to upgrade them

[lone swan]

how often is a combustion cycle

[jolly kiln]

default 15mins per cycle

[thorny zinc]

new bubble unlocked

[jolly kiln]

there ye go

[keen lynx]

what are the talent levels on your shaman/ plage doc

[slender lichen]

i think it ignores multikill
(so 1/20 chance no matter what)

[jolly kiln]

I reset it recently but it wasnt a plage doc yet just base shaman w/ the active talents upgraded a bit

[slender lichen]

my strat is to go tysons with es

[jolly kiln]

its 1/20? damn im unlucky as fuck then

my average base kills is like 4000 for this

[keen lynx]

ohh mb i meant to say plague doc i just forgot the class name

[slender lichen]

at least thats what the card says

[west pilot]

Bubo

[keen lynx]

yep thats it

[jolly kiln]

5 mins

for 5 -> 13 honestly really fast today

drop wise

[slender lichen]

huh....

[keen lynx]

I was afking monuments and wasn't active in the community for a while lol

[jolly kiln]

you opened a ui during shiny fish anim

just re enter the map

this includes talents, the entire codex map and more

during shiny animation just dont leave the roo ui

[slender lichen]

i kinda wish that they had a quick ref for roo and orion tho

[jolly kiln]

I think alot of us do

[keen lynx]

that be amazing

[jolly kiln]

itd be a nice like megafish 8/megafeather 10-11 reward

[slender lichen]

true (though i doubt that it would be that high of a requirement)

[jolly kiln]

even w/ those req itd be nice

bc thats when it starts getting long between megas

[slender lichen]

then again quick ref for shops, tickets, and keys have semi hard requirements for what they are worth so... ig it kinda makes sense actually

[jolly kiln]

actually for roo even at 5 its long

if u wanna actualyl get progress for overall due to its more permanent reset system

[slender lichen]

well its long at the start and long at the end

kinda like a bell curve

[jolly kiln]

according to autoreview

my next goals should be achievements and star signs

[keen lynx]

Star signs are a pain

[jolly kiln]

I know they will make my fishing samples ALOT(definitely not like only 5-7%) better so ill bear w/ em

[robust marsh]

First green stack

[jolly kiln]

gg

[slender lichen]

honestly i have not been using ie and pinchy (which it would probably help a lot but i kinda dont trust it)

[jolly kiln]

for google it only gets access to the game data

For the other sign in methods I dont know how trust worthy it is

and for steam based sign in I dont think it even works

[buoyant slate]

is it possible to sample Bloach fish?

[jolly kiln]

yes

[buoyant slate]

How?

[jolly kiln]

sample repeatedly

its just a rare chance same as bloach

[robust marsh]

Just sample while fishing

[slender lichen]

still if i can get to w4 without using it i think i can get farther without it

[jolly kiln]

gonna swap off of bloach to these bc I feel like im lacking

[robust marsh]

Yep you are

[slender lichen]

why i wish i had the sheep

[jolly kiln]

SAME

[jolly kiln]

I just got to world 4 ~6 days ago

im not rushing worlds

[buoyant slate]

any tip to improve purple depth?

for more Bloach drop

[robust marsh]

Congratulations your suffering is beginning

[jolly kiln]

honestly w3 increased my production alot more than w4 stuff has

tho im starting to ramp up lab

[slender lichen]

can you imagine when pet trading releases someone will just make 100s of alts to farm for pets and then trade them to their main account

[robust marsh]

Get fishing efficiency( cards, starsign,obols, strength stat)

[jolly kiln]

and cooking just started to give some damn bonuses

[jolly kiln]

scary

[slender lichen]

oh good i crashed idleon using orion

[robust marsh]

You are giving people a idea on what to do

[slender lichen]

doubt people will read this far back

in unrelated news i managed to white screen idleon while upgrading orion upgrades!

[lone swan]

How can i boost my 3d printer early w3?

[jolly kiln]

reboot the game

[slender lichen]

already doing that

[jolly kiln]

pet trading will defo need some restrictions or stuff like that will atleast make this more tedious to do

[robust marsh]

Get sample size from merit I think and salt lick

[slender lichen]

hear me out.... achievement lock

[jolly kiln]

my rats multikill is so low

[jolly kiln]

yea that is a type of req I was thinking could work

[robust marsh]

It will increase

A lot

[jolly kiln]

It was 150-200 2 days ago

[robust marsh]

As I said I will increase

[jolly kiln]

so its going up

[robust marsh]

Get some prayers going on

[jolly kiln]

I got this up when it jumped

[robust marsh]

Ye it's good but it will get expansive quick and too much for your inv

[lone swan]

yeah i have been doing that and got them up a decent amount but i need like 200/h spore caps for refinery and its not close to that

[jolly kiln]

I just got 20 bc it was cheap for me

[robust marsh]

Get royal sampler prayers

[jolly kiln]

I capped my inv size carry

[jolly kiln]

I got nearly 2k w/o royal sampler yet

I cant wait to get that

[slender lichen]

well i think if you set it to require that you clear w1 it would be easy enough to identify which accounts are farming for pets and which are not

wait who am i kidding vault exists now

[robust marsh]

Hmmm 🤏

[jolly kiln]

w/ vault probably world 3 or 4

maybe even 5 bc of how sweaty some people are

[slender lichen]

yeah i started playing before vault was added and was early-mid w2 when it was added

[jolly kiln]

5 is when u need doot the most anyways

[slender lichen]

5 takes at least 2 weeks to get to...

[jolly kiln]

thats it?

[slender lichen]

i think?

[jolly kiln]

probably less w/ vault and someone sweating

[robust marsh]

2 weeks you say it's not even close with vault now

[west pilot]

just a few days

[slender lichen]

ok well a casual player would take a few weeks

but yeah w1 only takes what a few minutes now due to vault?

[jolly kiln]

most of that time would be spent holding down m1 on the vault screen

[slender lichen]

w2 can take days for a casual player but could probably be done in 1-2 days if optimized enough

[west pilot]

nah

[white path]

like 20 minutes (probably less with vault)

[jolly kiln]

w2 took me 2 days pre vault

[west pilot]

you can do w4 in like 1 day or 2

[sinful mural]

!gear

[jolly kiln]

so defo less now

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[robust marsh]

Ayo #bot-commands

[slender lichen]

with or without time candies....

[random zodiac]

Has anyone gotten anything past "Dementia Egg"? is there anything that I need to do to get Void Egg?

[sinful mural]

sorry diddnt see the new channel

[white lintel]

Seriously?

[robust marsh]

Ok make sure to do this there

[sinful mural]

Will do

[west pilot]

yeah

[white lintel]

That’s so dumb

[white path]

vault is just fucking op

[white lintel]

I spent 2 weeks pushing w4

[robust marsh]

I remember it took me nearly 2.5 week to clear w4 back without vault

[jolly kiln]

prob shorter than how long itll take me

[robust marsh]

With bb

[jolly kiln]

but im going at a leisurely pace w/ all the stuff added to w4 and earlier you can do

[indigo stratus]

the true grind is the last 4 maps of w5

[lapis loom]

hey guys i got 5k gems, what should i buy?

[white path]

took me a little less than 2 months (I don't play optimally)

[west pilot]

and that got crushed by vault

[lapis loom]

ive bought infinity hammer and crystal printer already

[indigo stratus]

you still have to kill millions of mobs on the last map of w5

[west pilot]

kruk dmg wall is more like a meme

[white lintel]

Hey John did I tell you my DR isn’t horrible anymore

[west pilot]

that's not needed...

[jolly kiln]

what is the formula for weapon power base dmg

[true hamlet]

Maps with only a few mobs are terrifying

[white lintel]

Try the wiki

[jolly kiln]

bc atm it doesnt even get close to my base damgage from stamps + alch + vault

[white path]

I saw

[indigo stratus]

oh it's only 600k now

everything rebalanced

[atomic fable]

Oh, Hi arctis

[jolly kiln]

its wp^2/9 I see

[robust marsh]

Oh, Hi Cupcake

[jolly kiln]

Flat_Dmg_bonus

is just so huge I dont even notice it lmao

[true hamlet]

6-700k for a while now, was likr that pre vault too

[white lintel]

Hi cupcake

[atomic fable]

I think this is starting to get there?

[white path]

do u have the island explorer pack? (the multiplicative dr pack)

[jolly kiln]

multikill and multikill per tier should solve this!

atleast a bit

[white lintel]

I do

[vague pendant]

Where can I find a list of now to get the infinity starsigns

[indigo stratus]

you need rift

I think they're rift 11

[astral lava]

All to shinies to lv 7

[astral lava]

And that

[white path]

shiny squirrel, piggo, glublin, sir stache, penguin, and bop box give infinite star signs

[white lintel]

Do you just know that or something?

[robust marsh]

How many each give?

[indigo stratus]

I'm about to hit w6 and still don't have anvil 4 tab unlocked

[true hamlet]

Doing the wow on 1x nutto sounds terrifying if you don't have high mk and kpk

[astral lava]

2 per lv iirc

[jolly kiln]

a single stamp changed how I feel about this

[west pilot]

lmao

[jolly kiln]

from garbo to yoo +all stat

[robust marsh]

I don't understand lv thingy would you explain it in more detail

[white lintel]

If only the stamp didn’t cost 1glunkmillion dollars

[lapis loom]

should i just buy card packs with my gems? after i bought infinity hammer, crystal printer, and bleach cauldron?

[true hamlet]

Most people don't. You get to w6 so quickly even pre vault that even if you unlock it, you'll have no salts to craft things

[jolly kiln]

Im about to get tab 3 and im in w4

[white lintel]

When shiny sits in fence yard it lvls up

[white path]

trying to farm golden cakes for dr

[astral lava]

Like the pink heart (breedability), you can lv up shinies by leaving some star ones in the fence

[robust marsh]

Hmmm so I need shiny now hmmm

[white lintel]

Ghosts are more of a problem for me than shells rn

[white lintel]

Lvl 40 breeding iirc

[astral lava]

Atleast 150 per 1h candy, why?

[robust marsh]

Fr

[white path]

I did them before shells

[white lintel]

I’m not candying them not worth imo

[echo light]

Where do I find pingys

[white lintel]

Just been active farming on ES

[west pilot]

ghosts are free

[jolly kiln]

what do I use these on?

[white lintel]

For later

[jolly kiln]

I got these just going through world 2 on a few chars

[tepid dune]

doot is one use

[jolly kiln]

b4 I realized oh colo exists

[indigo stratus]

they're very important

[white lintel]

Not when you need 2.1M of them

[astral lava]

DNA splicers

[indigo stratus]

you need 1000 to upgrade alll splicers

[west pilot]

still free compared to pearlers

[white lintel]

That’s why I’m not spending my candy on them

[white path]

only planning to get 11k golden cakes for beanstalk and 1k in food slot

[jolly kiln]

good to know I assume its not an problem for me yet

[indigo stratus]

but you're w4 so splicers are already important

[astral lava]

"Lots"

[west pilot]

[astral lava]

[white lintel]

[white path]

[tepid dune]

[jolly kiln]

1/10th

lvl 2 shall be MINE

[astral lava]

Just started buying them?

[jolly kiln]

its cheap daily I can do

[jolly kiln]

I dont even have equinox

ive bought them since I unlocked w3

[astral lava]

Buy them once u can handle it's cost

[astral lava]

Decent

[jolly kiln]

I can defo handle thyem

[white lintel]

Currently at 16k cakes

[jolly kiln]

I get like 10 of these an hr in w4

[astral lava]

Rip Skydoggies

[west pilot]

almost there

[astral lava]

1050m?

[ripe coyote]

I hate him with a passion

[west pilot]

1000M for vial

[sweet drum]

It’s ez man wdym

[astral lava]

I have that already maxed, heheh

[true hamlet]

What about him

[west pilot]

i was ending the last two monster mats i have left

cause i never cared about them

[merry rover]

why is this sprout and not daisy"??????????

[buoyant slate]

im kinda still stupid, but how do i gain cooking exp?

[west pilot]

afk

[true hamlet]

Afk in cooking area

[astral lava]

U get 10 daisy tokens and 20 sprout tokens per account

[buoyant slate]

is there any bonuses if i afk there? or just for xp?

[astral lava]

?wiki Cooking

[west pilot]

show vials rq

[paper tusk]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Cooking

[merry rover]

yes but to get the daisy tokens there has to be a daisy npc which there is clearly not

[west pilot]

want to see your maxed bjpickle fr

[jolly kiln]

just got this(I had the area unlocked I just needed to drop the thingy)

[sweet drum]

It’s at the tree second floor

[cold wraith]

ya goofy

[sweet drum]

Man try to actually explore the game

[merry rover]

i am at the tree second floor but the npc is not daisy its sprout

[merry rover]

there is literally a nutto in the picture

[ripe coyote]

The hardest thing is hitting the odd numbers

[cold wraith]

then a dazey npc at the bottom

[astral lava]

Nvm...

[sweet drum]

Then you have 2 sprout npcs?

[merry rover]

yeah

somehow

[astral lava]

Sup Waffle
-# ||show me ur account ||

[sweet drum]

Ye sry that’s a glitch

[cold wraith]

sure but im going to go to sleep after do you want ie or it

[merry rover]

uh huh

[astral lava]

Wait... U are gonna show me it??

[cold wraith]

yea cus im not going to stay for your comments

[west pilot]

lmao

[cold wraith]

you can slander me in your head

[sweet drum]

Try to use another character

[merry rover]

kk

[buoyant slate]

what the diferrence between XP Ballons or Pearls?

[west pilot]

send yours

[astral lava]

I won't roast u

[sweet drum]

Xp ballons give an xp amount that scales with lv while perl gives 20%

[cold wraith]

ie or it

[astral lava]

It

[astral lava]

Alr

[west pilot]

it

[astral lava]

Love IT

[astral lava]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Weaaeeeeeeeae

Trust me, I won't roast...

[ripe coyote]

What r u asking about?

[west pilot]

no 2100 lab?

💀

[astral lava]

Am I late-lategame?

[west pilot]

not like you need to be late game for it

[cold wraith]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=MissingWaffle

[merry rover]

nah its ok now

[west pilot]

i would check waffle first

[vapid tulip]

Question what should I use to advance my pets

[cold wraith]

ok if you do say anything ignore my worship

[astral lava]

A good attack strategy

[jolly kiln]

A roast like this could be helpful

[cold wraith]

nighty night tho

[west pilot]

nah i will do a quick peek nw

[astral lava]

Nighty night

[jolly kiln]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=HHHjb01

[astral lava]

Nah

[jolly kiln]

for toolbox I dont need to enable public right?

[astral lava]

That shit I did took me 1 hour

[jolly kiln]

fair

[loud arch]

!merit 3

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[astral lava]

-# no space

[loud arch]

Sorry, and thanks

[lone swan]

if i do a sample with max sample talent then refund the sample talent will my sample stay the same

[west pilot]

i can check it on a bit

[jolly kiln]

these things just are a pain to fullfill

[vapid tulip]

Well thx for the advice I guess

[jolly kiln]

cranium cooking isnt strong enough yet so whats the point tho that 01 I do need to do that 1 sec

[west pilot]

i will just say 10k stamps

not engaging further

[astral lava]

Waffle be cooking 🔥

[astral lava]

Mine is ~9k

[indigo ginkgo]

Because Daisy is using a costume of Sprout

[astral lava]

I'ma engage further!

[indigo ginkgo]

Its the quest

[jolly kiln]

waffle seems to be a little low on owl

[astral lava]

Hide them

[opal pivot]

What should I use for pet territory team?

[astral lava]

!guide

[candid scarab]

Mid-Late Game guide for World 3 / 4 / 5:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml
Video Guides (by GriffyBit):
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVGSDQs1AcvjYTAPtYV6ofbeeEfHpEcb4

[jolly kiln]

I mean im slowly doing them itsj ust geari snt that good when Im a base stat increase addict

[west pilot]

it's decent point

[astral lava]

Ye

[indigo ginkgo]

Just somethings to do, not too much

[west pilot]

but yeah, owl got easier so i would say good point is 12-13

[astral lava]

Just needs to make gear for everyone, tools too

[astral lava]

Weapons too..

[jolly kiln]

2 days to rank it up sadge

but I cant really rank up orange w/o doing this or id produce near 0 red

[tepid dune]

😢

[jolly kiln]

I got most to t3 weapons

[atomic fable]

There is some ways to increase refinery speed

[jolly kiln]

yea I got the 3x and some Im increasing a bit overtime

[astral lava]

?wiki Refinery

[paper tusk]

https://idleon.wiki/wiki/Refinery

[lapis loom]

you guys think its worth buying emerlad bling pendant? im in w4

[west pilot]

i would say yes

it's really solid bonus

even if you don't use it that much now

[jolly kiln]

I might get tab 3

[west pilot]

it'll be good for later

[lapis loom]

i see

[echo light]

Does talent book library affect all characters

[jolly kiln]

just for the free gems bc Ive got so many unlocks avialble

for more perma gemshop upgrades

getting those s tier ones I can then a if I got no moe

[indigo ginkgo]

||You gain like 10 gems ||

[astral lava]

No if it's not star/special talent

[jolly kiln]

its like closer to 200

I dont know what ur on about I got 21 unlocks sitting there

just unlocking weapons alone

[indigo ginkgo]

Oh yeah you gain for the weapons

[jolly kiln]

||yea I knew about the joke troll ones tab 4 is mostly just +5s huh||

[lapis loom]

what is total damage multi?

[jolly kiln]

good

[lapis loom]

i got a chaotic emperor card

from the card pack idk what it means

[ancient meadow]

whatdoes it mean to light up first bonus

[jolly kiln]

lab getting atleast one of the squares lit up

by having a char in lab jail

[vital forge]

how do i increase my kph? im doing the "kill mushrooms" quest for vman...

[ancient meadow]

how do i do that

[indigo ginkgo]

Multikill and multikill per tier

[vital forge]

i dont have any cards equipped here, what are the best ones?

[atomic fable]

You need more mk per tier ideally

[indigo ginkgo]

Total damage and all stats is good too

[atomic fable]

Do you have balance of pain?

which is the prayer from w4 tower defence (Wave 21)

[indigo ginkgo]

I use this cards

[vital forge]

not yet, im severely behind on worship, im currently upgrading my towers

[jolly kiln]

wooo

cooking will be so much more tollerable now

[indigo ginkgo]

Pretty op

[jolly kiln]

(pre vman)

yes I used my t8 on that

oh I got an achieve for this

fk yea

10% more meal speed to level this

[vital forge]

is there anyone who specialises in cooking

[jolly kiln]

yes

[indigo ginkgo]

If you upgrade nothing on the pet upgrades you gain a achievement too

[willow jacinth]

Bb

[tough tangle]

uhm

[jolly kiln]

Ive doen that

[tough tangle]

nvm

[west pilot]

Dmg and afk gain

Multikill fair too

[indigo ginkgo]

multikill per tier pretty good too

[jolly kiln]

this is good for just getting cabbage right?

[west pilot]

Added it down

[indigo ginkgo]

Ops

[jolly kiln]

what is commadn for pet arena?

I tried going through bot commands and the help command showedm e nothing unless I skipped it on accident

[willow jacinth]

It's in tips and tricks I'll @ you there

[jolly kiln]

ty

[rapid prism]

Should I hoard library checkouts until I max the merit and saltlick?

[west pilot]

The more you hoard the slower it gets

[rapid prism]

Oh

So I need to use them all

[west pilot]

Less books faster checkout

[rapid prism]

What's a char reccomend for early library checkout

DK?

[west pilot]

Maybe bubo for green tube, and then DK,ES, SB

[jolly kiln]

it got me to round 20

tysm

1.5x cash

im curious is this counting all cooking lvl together?

or just the highest

[ancient meadow]

how do i light up the first bonus

[jolly kiln]

lab put a character via the button at the top

and drag the one near the origin(the left side)

[ancient meadow]

is the origin the triangle rainbow thing

[jolly kiln]

yes

[ancient meadow]

now what

[jolly kiln]

the line youll need a few labl vls but ull be able to have a line from the source to your char and the char to a box

[ancient meadow]

What

i dont understand

[jolly kiln]

put the char u put in near the origin the button at the top that says enter lab or something I cant remember the name

ill take a ss gimme a sec

[ancient meadow]

upload?

[jolly kiln]

yes

[ancient meadow]

done

[jolly kiln]

ok drag that char specifically near the source

[ancient meadow]

ok

[jolly kiln]

for example my chars

[ancient meadow]

wait what source

[jolly kiln]

the rainbow thing on the left is the source

the line is the the white line between my character head and the source

[ancient meadow]

ok

[jolly kiln]

and when a char is close enough also to the box

(may take a few lab lvls)

thsi char wont do anything but print when in this state for a while

[jolly kiln]

seriously I wanna know bc itll affect how I go about this

nvm just read the description

ok guess ill use some balloons(not alot maestro steals most of em) on my other chars to get some lvl up

[vital forge]

is there a cooking guide?

[indigo stratus]

buy gem kitchen, cook egg, cabbage etc.

if you have the 14th yellow bubble you can boost kitchen massively with diamond plates

[indigo ginkgo]

Its the highest?

[ancient meadow]

like this?

[sudden forum]

connect your characters to the prism you dumbass

[sleek lantern]

They don't have to be 'in' the prism, you just have to see a white line connecting to the head icon

[sudden forum]

exactly

[ancient meadow]

ok i get it now ty

[sleek lantern]

Also each character has to be connected to actually get XP as far as I'm aware

And if I'm not gaslighting myself, they can only raise sigil levels in Alchemy while connected to that third box on the bottom?

[vital forge]

how long should the vman mushroom quest take me

[sleek lantern]

I've had mine killing for about a week now, and through the use of a 72, 24, two 12's, about 7 4's, 20 2's, and 30ish 1 hour time candies?

It's above 9mil

[brave cove]

LETS GOOOOOOO

[true hamlet]

I easily got 200k kph on vman when I did it, took no time at all

If you aren't hitting 100k kph, then idk why you would do the quest

Equip nobisect, killer brightside, kpk and mkpt bubble, mkpt and kpk prayers etc.

[sleek lantern]

Cause V-Man

[bronze moth]

lucky

[true hamlet]

Vman yes, but if it takes so long why bother, I got vman after 4 weeks from starting the game pre vault, with buffs now, maybe even faster

Took me 3 days for all 3 quests btw

So 1m kills, chizoar and 12m mushrooms

[sleek lantern]

We can do the 12m 'before' being on that quest right?

[harsh nebula]

Gmush how much dmg you got on dk

[true hamlet]

Yep

[sleek lantern]

Thank fuck... I'm at 9.2m so far while on the first step still

I need to sort out my gear and stuff and increase my multikill to make it quicker

[harsh nebula]

I just dumped a few time candy

Worth it tbh

[true hamlet]

Vman is important for sure, but if you don't have high kph, you can't even utilise it

[sleek lantern]

So have I, I'm failing to figure out what to focus on is my current issue

Is why I'ma unlock it and then start focusing on leveling and gearing hard

[bronze moth]

80m

[sleek lantern]

Cause if I unlock it now, I ain't gotta later

[harsh nebula]

My vman is strong enough to deal with moles and first mob in w6 so it’s good enough

I definitely need more damage though

[sleek lantern]

I'm personally curious what Vman Master Class will be

[brave cove]

is there any type of optimal puchase guide/order for trash island

[harsh nebula]

Idk I’m just saving up for the bribes lol

[brave cove]

or do i just go with my gut

[mint furnace]

I was gonna say, leave vman on it while you do other steps

[brave cove]

oh the bribes are good but i can afford the stamp

[sleek lantern]

Cause it goes from an Explorer aesthetic, to an... Enlightened One? Before becoming Voidtainted/blessed

So what comes after the Void?

[true hamlet]

The name is somewhere..

Might be able to see in dungeons/wiki

[harsh nebula]

I just hope you don’t need to do something crazy for vman

[vital forge]

can i time candy/balloon divinity/lab?

[indigo ginkgo]

The end?

[true hamlet]

Well, fact of the matter is, vman mainly gets talent points from speedrun highscore. If you don't have enough mulitkill and kill per kill, you will be spending too much time opening portals

[harsh nebula]

“Kill every single W3-5bMob 5M times!”

[sleek lantern]

God I wish..

[sleek lantern]

"Kill Nightmare Amarok, Efaunt, Chizoar, and Troll 10 times."

[vital forge]

so im guessing maestro exp bonuses dont apply to it either?

[harsh nebula]

Not that bad tbh

[true hamlet]

There's a 100x nightmare troll quest, on each character

[sleek lantern]

"Without doing anything."

[harsh nebula]

Killer with no record 😭

[harsh nebula]

Where do you get that quest lol

[prime wave]

im needing some advice moving forward with breeding, need more pet power, im around 90k on top end

[true hamlet]

Royal worm

More pet power? Just get more levels

[prime wave]

need to get the spices from finished territories, also slackin on grey dna

[atomic fable]

Pearls do work if I remember right

[steel nymph]

ye btw where's the best spot to crystal farm with dk, is it ice creams

wdym by that

[fossil hatch]

He meant what he said

Exp

[steel nymph]

meh who cares, anyways just follow this thing https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/e/2PACX-1vSCepYAs6sNDP4iq6MJNAG1pvFXzfC_3IQ7ttt5vfEEKAgQhIk4cQqnLRyeH6UyqDSuP4R-6WQeDmmP/pubhtml?pli=1

answer to everything

[fossil hatch]

Is this your way of answering every question leo?

[steel nymph]

i ain't even glazing this spreadsheet

[steel nymph]

yup

[fossil hatch]

Nice

[steel nymph]

i am always grateful for this spreadsheet

cuz like fr this answered all my questions

[fossil hatch]

I’ve never used it, or look at it ever

Is it that good?

[steel nymph]

u missin out fr

nah ur already pass that phase lol

[fossil hatch]

I’ve just never been bad enough to need it I guess

[steel nymph]

no need to use it at ur point in the game

[fossil hatch]

Tbf, I was fully caught up in the game when that was created

[steel nymph]

i think i got good news

[fossil hatch]

Good news

[steel nymph]

i think im near to 29x dr now

that coin multi still works right

[sleek lantern]

Question cause of a little achievement I just read

[steel nymph]

like every idk wut number

[sleek lantern]

But do eggs upgrade if I let em sit there past the cap?

[steel nymph]

like 15 17 19 like that

[fossil hatch]

Yes

[steel nymph]

yes

[fossil hatch]

Eggs will upgrade

[sleek lantern]

[steel nymph]

why

u must've hatched them innit

[sleek lantern]

It's been two weeks of not knowing this

[fossil hatch]

It is what it is 🤷‍♂️

Now you know, better now then a month or so

[indigo ginkgo]

I did it...

[sleek lantern]

I love that the damage is Nothing

[steel nymph]

it's got that quadruple punch thing so it ain't that bad tbh

[fossil hatch]

Well done fellow guild member

[warm dirge]

what should i use to push w3 boss and kill?

[fossil hatch]

I used wizard

[sleek lantern]

I'm pondering if I should Time Candy the rest of my green mushrooms for Voidwalker, or use em on getting others to 1mil

[fossil hatch]

Many options work tho

[sleek lantern]

Cause.. first quest does give a 72 hour

[prime charm]

hi, what site/guide u guys use for skill builds? was trying to look for siege's skill build in idleontoolbox but it's empty

[toxic quartz]

theres a google doc

[toxic quartz]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml

[prime charm]

awesome, thanks!!

[proud skiff]

is there any like spreadsheat or anything for how to spend talent/stat points?

nvm im blind

[steel nymph]

buddy was only on 600q yesterday 😭

[vital forge]

why is this quest not completing? is it bc theres too many coins? 😭

its been like this for like, 10mins

[sleek stone]

some space are not filled then

[grand flare]

More space needs to be filled

[atomic fable]

I do see a gap

[sleek stone]

its hard also

[vital forge]

can i drop them or

[grand flare]

No

[vital forge]

nvm ofc as soon as i ask it completes 💀

[fossil hatch]

If it makes you feel any better, hundreds of people have asked the same question

The quest is just really buggy

Well… not necessarily buggy. But annoying

[steel nymph]

chroni where's the best spot to farm statues for w3

[exotic swallow]

bloodbornes

thats for crystals

[cobalt ledge]

How do i place down a shrine?

[steel nymph]

aight bet thanks c4explosive watery shit

[exotic swallow]

No problem, Leo the Lion

[kindred basin]

How do I increase the pay 2 win maxes for cauldrons and daily vial attempts? I’m mid world 4 rn

[spiral mango]

what's the difference of class xp and skill xp

[indigo ginkgo]

What should be the lvl to stop the lab prison? Im at +/- lvl 7

[indigo ginkgo]

Class xp is the xp you get killing mobs, and the skill xp is what you get mining, chopping

[tawdry relic]

Class exp lvl up your character skill exp to lvl up your skilling like mining and Manu more

[tawdry relic]

Should skip it and unlock w5 then do the divinity but if you want to do it early won't be big different

[indigo ginkgo]

Just asking, is there any upgrades in the late game that makes the bonus from the lab work without having to put the characters to afk in the lab?

[tawdry relic]

There is in world 5 but instead being put in the lab you need to put it on divinity

In other world your character still being locked but 2 in 1

[sonic sky]

I unlocked my 8th character what class should I get
And yes I have a dk, blood barb, bubo, bm, es, siege, and a maestro

[indigo ginkgo]

Another dk

For more building speed

[sonic sky]

Thanks

What next after that tho

[indigo ginkgo]

Honestly its kinda your choice, you could go ES or SB or Bubonic

Just dont choose another Beastmaster

[hard thistle]

One bubo is enough

[sonic sky]

Honestly I love the ES so I’ll probably just get another one of those

[tawdry relic]

Too many bubo,barb and beast master kinda useless

Ye should go with es for divinity honestly

[vital forge]

how do i get more efficiency on my maestro?

[indigo ginkgo]

So I should lvl to like 15?

[true hamlet]

Cards, skilled dimwit prayer

[indigo ginkgo]

Dont use the skill that buffs exp

[tawdry relic]

Depend if you want to I'm no expert on lab

[indigo ginkgo]

Ok

[vital forge]

i somehow only gained ~1k efficiency from removing it

[indigo ginkgo]

Prayer( skilled dimwit)

And the cards

[sonic sky]

Also how do I unlock sigles, I saw something in the lab about them but I didn’t really understand it

[harsh nebula]

Alchemy

[indigo ginkgo]

When you unlock sigils, you need to put one character in the alchemy(last tab)

[tawdry relic]

Make sure on lab you connect to sigil then open alchemy just put character on sigil

[harsh nebula]

In the p2w tab i think

[jolly kiln]

it claims to be total in the description when making em

[indigo ginkgo]

And if you want to gain max gains, you equip the big bubble from the skill + constelation

[sonic sky]

Thanks chat😎

[indigo ginkgo]

Ohh so its pretty good

[jolly kiln]

yea

[indigo ginkgo]

Also, try getting corndog as fast you can, its meal speed too

[jolly kiln]

goti t almost forgot I need to get more stuff unlocked

[indigo ginkgo]

Lvl 8 with ribbon got me to almost 200k

[jolly kiln]

I only had 1 lvl 8 ribbon

[indigo ginkgo]

Sad

[jolly kiln]

I got 2 lvl 6s tho

[jolly kiln]

rn only the very first kitchen produces fast for me so im using it to level cabbage a bit

ill get corndog started tmrow when I got cabbage atleast lvl 3 or maybe lvl 4

[vital forge]

i just realised i never got the toilet paper postage book, but tp pete is only giving me this one?

[jolly kiln]

this happened ot me too

its bugged rn unfortunately, also getting that talent at lvl 50 is impossible rn too due to it giving the red quest one instead

bc these 2 were moved a bit

[indigo ginkgo]

Im trying lvl 11 every meal that makes cooking more easy

[jolly kiln]

but the drops wernt

[jolly kiln]

true but im not quite good nough to start that yet

[vital forge]

fun 💀

[jolly kiln]

the speed bonuses themselves are better rn than going for lvl 11

but once I get good speed getting lvl 11 will become good

[indigo ginkgo]

Also vman has a skill that multiplies your cooking speed

[odd obsidian]

hey also cabbage counts kitchen levels as in speed, fire and luck. all 3 of them

[jolly kiln]

yea but vman is hard to get early on

[odd obsidian]

makes it by far the best cooking speed meal

[jolly kiln]

yea I noticed

I put 50 lvls in luck and got speed bonus from that

[odd obsidian]

blood marrow is also a huge boost youll receive but itll be in a while

[hard thistle]

Push to world 5, ignore cooking for a bit.

Cooking gets insanely fast after you get some w5 upgrades.

[lone swan]

whats the best spot to get the valentine boxes

[indigo ginkgo]

Do colosseum

[sleek pollen]

any just kill a lot of mob

[lone swan]

colosuem seems smart

[sleek pollen]

better save colo tickets for gfood farm later

[odd obsidian]

yeah kill a lot of mobs. es/dk is good for that

any spot will work with them

[sleek pollen]

bubo even better if you have 200 tenteyecle

but if no elite pray for rnJesus

[indigo ginkgo]

I mean, its like 3 tickets per day to get 50, and has that vault upgrade now, so its pretty easy to gain a lot more than waste

[sleek pollen]

🤷‍♂️

[vital forge]

whats best to upgrade for vman

[sleek pollen]

fight, drop

[indigo ginkgo]

I would go for drop rate

[odd obsidian]

does that vault upgrade actually work though. ive been getting only 3 tickets/day

[sleek pollen]

utility has monster exp if you want, health has monster respawn (quite good for speedrun), mana has cdr (again good for speedrun), then save box for second page

[sleek pollen]

upon using the tickets

you get 3 daily ticket but when you use them you get 6

[indigo ginkgo]

And in the second tab, utility

[odd obsidian]

so basically you cant use the double ticket thing to farm w5/w6 colosseum?

[sleek pollen]

yeah utility and dmg on second page

[brave cove]

no wonder I've had so many tickets

[odd obsidian]

12 tickets, 30 tickets

[sleek pollen]

I don't understand

[odd obsidian]

i dont understand your explanation

[indigo ginkgo]

I have 69 lol

[odd obsidian]

what im getting here is that its when i have 0 tickets that it gets doubled

because i'd have used them

[brave cove]

you get 3 tickets daily from each of the guys, using the ticket adds 2 to your account instead of 1

[sleek pollen]

just save tickets in tons, like for months, then farm gfood when you have like 30+DR

[odd obsidian]

ohhh by using the Consumable Item ticket

okay i get it now

[brave cove]

yes

[odd obsidian]

thought he meant using them as in using them to enter a colosseum

[sleek pollen]

oh no never

[sly jackal]

what is the highest pet power youve seen

[sleek pollen]

it'd be a pain if entry cost was x2

[brave cove]

not sure but i know it was at least 1

[sleek pollen]

400k(?) from a screenshot of someone I reckon

[indigo ginkgo]

Higher than 1

[jolly kiln]

should I stop leveling this?

[sleek pollen]

never?

[jolly kiln]

I cant get the special thingy yet

[sleek pollen]

gold statue?

[jolly kiln]

next tier higher

[sleek pollen]

onyx? yeah no its w6 thing lol

or at least by the time you get to w6 you should have the requirement to farm most onyx stataues

[odd obsidian]

why did my first sb have so much of an easier time getting the lava skull than my second sb

[sleek pollen]

just luck

[odd obsidian]

first one took 5 minutes, second one took 30

[jolly kiln]

ive used ~3x heart statues than the dmg ones

[indigo ginkgo]

Its 10k to upgrade to onyx no?

[jolly kiln]

is what it feels like

[sleek pollen]

ye happens when rng is involved

[sleek pollen]

20k it is

[jolly kiln]

20k isnt that hard to reach for a few of these by accident at this point

[indigo ginkgo]

Damn

[sleek pollen]

don't think about saving them or farming, like if you have them use them

[jolly kiln]

but intentionally thats not happening for now

[indigo ginkgo]

I have trouble getting 1000 axes lol

[jolly kiln]

got it

[odd obsidian]

power statues are far more of a pain to get than the other crystal carrot statues smh

[sleek pollen]

from like mid w5 you'd be starting to crystal farm a bit, or like doing some farming here and there, so thats when you start saving statues and your DK become the statue holder

[odd obsidian]

ive got like 4x as many speed statues do you know fast ill walk

slightly faster probably like 2%

[sleek pollen]

ehh health statue exists

speed, food and crit statue are easiest one to farm when crystal farming

[odd obsidian]

and chopping power

[jolly kiln]

mman w/o trying

[odd obsidian]

my crystal chance is basically maxed out rn because i dont have the two black chips

[jolly kiln]

still feels too low

[sleek pollen]

crystal farm stat at least at 1/100 or below, and 8-10 DR for starters

[odd obsidian]

and they wont be here in a whiile

[jolly kiln]

yea I thought so

1/286 still feels rare

[sleek pollen]

ehh one is march other november

[jolly kiln]

Im missing the cards nearly entirely

[hard thistle]

You need that chip too

[jolly kiln]

most of that was from spam upgrading stamps that were cheap

[odd obsidian]

march i can wait but november?

[sleek pollen]

yep

you could always gamba with the gem shop

[odd obsidian]

ill pass on that

i know it would give me like 50 green chips

[warm grove]

Greetings my fellow players

[sleek pollen]

well you have like a month or a bit more to farm enough for choco chip

[odd obsidian]

35-42 days

[sleek pollen]

whats your crystal spawn chance?

[odd obsidian]

hold on lemme check

[warm grove]

dang that's high for not having omega chips

[odd obsidian]

1 in 57

[warm grove]

yeah that's not bad either, you got both the cards to ruby?

[jolly kiln]

I love this buble

[sleek pollen]

1/49

[odd obsidian]

i got demon genie to ruby and poop to diamond

[jolly kiln]

Im using my % cost reduction to afford this

[warm grove]

that bubble is pretty nice

[odd obsidian]

should i use my gilded stamps on the crystal stamp?

[warm grove]

at some point you'll want to farm poops on ES until you get ruby

[sleek pollen]

yee, one of the few thing you wanna spend it on

[odd obsidian]

i dont have ruby cards in rift yet

[warm grove]

also yeah its one of the main things to wait for

ah ok that makes sense

finally hit purple damage today which is nice

[indigo ginkgo]

Pretty good

[odd obsidian]

nice

[sleek pollen]

bought 2 rubyfier and used on both poop and demon genie because I couldn't wait to unlock ruby from rift

[jolly kiln]

my w1 vials are 90% all green now

[odd obsidian]

i had 2 rubyifers from the two times they were 1 gem

[warm grove]

Lol kinda based, I also used a rubyfier on genies

[jolly kiln]

just need to farm this one

[odd obsidian]

now i have 1 which im torn on what to spend it on

[sleek pollen]

w6 cards or boss/miniboss

[warm grove]

honestly save it if you don't have the W6 boss cards

[odd obsidian]

i didnt open any w6 card packs yet

[jolly kiln]

which honestly since I literally cant even get the prowess bonus from toilet skill I dont really have a reason to farm it atm

[sleek pollen]

chaotic troll has all eff, doot for dr maybe, or yeah wait for emperor card

[sleek lantern]

Lets gooo

[sleek pollen]

chaotic chiz for shrine effect but idk about it

[sleek lantern]

No need to do this later

[jolly kiln]

this talent is just straight up unobtainable rn due to a bug

[odd obsidian]

its like 5% more spawn chance

[jolly kiln]

so thats fun

[sleek pollen]

yeah been said already a few times, proly in bug reports already

[warm grove]

dang that sucks, also the talent itself too

[jolly kiln]

it gives a level 1 of another talent thats bugged to not drop from jman

[jolly kiln]

yea itd make my mman efficiency alot better relative

[indigo ginkgo]

Since when its unobtainable?

[jolly kiln]

vault 1

[brave cove]

this update

[sleek pollen]

recent patch

[indigo ginkgo]

Damn

[jolly kiln]

it wasnt vault 2 but vault 1 that broke it

I got these 2 during vault 1

[warm grove]

every time I level it up to like 250 and look at my efficiency it doesn't change a bit so I am skeptical about its effectiveness

[indigo ginkgo]

Unlucky

[sleek pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16847314810084971000

[odd obsidian]

then again you dont get a ton of efficiency from it

[jolly kiln]

This is pain to see

[brave cove]

i wonder how it's gonna be fixed retroactively

cus I didn't get it either

[jolly kiln]

you can reclaim these 2 thankfully

[brave cove]

and beginner best class is a good talent

[warm grove]

probably a quest reclaim if I had to guess

[jolly kiln]

talk about it

[warm grove]

lol that is so cursed looking

[indigo ginkgo]

Crazy debuff

[jolly kiln]

I have a lvl 150 maestro(on accident but still)

-14 weapon power

[thorny plaza]

Should I really do this? In the wiki I swear I read reaching rank 3 was when it was getting diminishing returns

[indigo ginkgo]

20 should be enough, but always rank up

[warm grove]

always manually refine at max for red

[jolly kiln]

yes ranking it up gives more salt per cycle still

[odd obsidian]

20 is where it starts getting faster dont stop at 20

[jolly kiln]

and youll need alot till its about 100(you might even level it past this as needed)

hence the alert

[thorny plaza]

So I should let it get to 100 before auto refining?

Damm that'll be a while lmao

[warm grove]

yeah that's gonna take you over a year at least, probably closer to 2

[odd obsidian]

essentially means never auto refine

[indigo ginkgo]

I dont even know if anyone have lvl 100 red salt lol

[thorny plaza]

Dope

[jolly kiln]

ive seen a few

[thorny plaza]

What about the other two should I autorefine those or level them up too?

[sleek pollen]

there's a lot even

[indigo ginkgo]

There is a guide I think

[jolly kiln]

level them up to what ur capable of and autorefine when they get close or just use a guide

[warm grove]

basically refine your salts such as this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/849473649832755231/1244288731704332351/image.png?ex=67bbd26f&is=67ba80ef&hm=8913a83a8e45a7f3c2bb961119255e9f3e690b2d7d053da617353b618ee279f2&

[jolly kiln]

yooo

[thorny plaza]

Ah makes sense thanks guys

[jolly kiln]

I got lucky for fing once

[warm grove]

is 20% high for where you are at?

[jolly kiln]

yea

my avg is 4

highest b4 was 10

[rustic peak]

Can anyone think of why i may not be getting shiny critters, using steel trap 5 day setting 160x shiny collected 5 traps on my beast master from drone not a single shiny, 5 days ago i got 1 shiny.

[indigo ginkgo]

Huge

[warm grove]

nice, just keep checking in often

[jolly kiln]

Im pretty early game in construction

[jolly kiln]

yea and now my entire page is finally % xp

it lined up

replaced the last grey w/ random stat on it

[indigo ginkgo]

Should I gather gems to get all of the yin and yang cogs?

[hard thistle]

How much alchemy progress do you guys get on cc?

[warm grove]

honestly save your gems for other things, just get 1 yin and yang cog if you want

[indigo ginkgo]

Ok

[warm grove]

I usually get around 220,000 seconds

[odd obsidian]

i get like 40 hours maybe?

[hard thistle]

I can't get more then 100k

[indigo ginkgo]

I was gathering to upgrade cooking

[warm grove]

what level is your cc booked to, your alch bubble level, and what map?

oh don't bother with cooking that much until you get vman and level his skill

[odd obsidian]

also is your alchemy post office box maxed

[jolly kiln]

None atm I dont even have it strong enough to be consistent

[zealous blade]

how do i set traps?

[jolly kiln]

I found a purpose to actualyl get this one sec im stupid

[warm grove]

make sure you have a trap box equiped on your player and then you go to the map with the critter and place them that way

[jolly kiln]

this mat ive been sleeping on for no fking reason

[indigo ginkgo]

I need to sleep

[warm grove]

yeah who uses the 3D printer? I certainly would never resample

[indigo ginkgo]

Its almost 4am here

[rustic peak]

Can anyone think of why i may not be getting shiny critters, using steel trap 5 day setting 160x shiny collected 5 traps on my beast master from drone not a single shiny, 5 days ago i got 1 shiny.

[zealous blade]

i have trap equipped how do i place?

[sleek pollen]

lord of the hunt quest first quest I reckon tells you to go to slime map and top left plateform will be frogs, thats where you place trap, if you have one equiped

[rustic peak]

Go to map with critter stand on critters and it will let you place in the specified area