midgame-chat-w3🧊w4🔮

[viral vapor]

I think DK for construction is probably wise. I'm inclined to hum and haw on the 10th

[crystal pivot]

@fleet ore https://www.reddit.com/r/idleon/comments/161z81u/character_creation_and_class_selection/

[haughty root]

i have 2 SB, DK and ES

[fleet ore]

nice wow nice

[crystal pivot]

construction definitely high prio

[fleet ore]

ok il do it then

[thorny zinc]

anything but another maestro or beast master ig

[fleet ore]

so shouldnt like make another meastro in the future?

[haughty root]

i think theres an arugment for two Bbs and one ES

[thorny zinc]

i think i will go for 2dk, 2es and 2 bb

[viral vapor]

watch beast master get the elite and they're the bees kness you want 10 😆

[thorny zinc]

you mean the master class?

[viral vapor]

yea

[pastel heart]

since db i regret 2nd bb hahaha

[viral vapor]

I have been doing a headache

[haughty root]

i dont think two SB is that important either tbh

[thorny zinc]

i dont think beast master will have such a op master class

[haughty root]

it will be some shit where u get pets from the mobs u kill i bet

[thorny zinc]

i still want to see how lava will make the game playable with es or bubo master classes

[haughty root]

and your beastiary needs to be upgraded to get stronger

i dont think lava is interested in "op out of the gate" anymore

[pale thicket]

does the kills per hour take into account movement speed boosts?

[thorny zinc]

yes

[pale thicket]

Awesome ty

[haughty root]

yea if you run fast enough you can turn back time when the mobs are still alive

[thorny zinc]

that sounds like smth lava will write on a item description

[crystal pivot]

do most people just make 1 set of pushing/highest available gear and swap it between characters? or have 2-3 sets?

[haughty root]

early on 1 set, then a few more and eventually everyone

[crystal pivot]

so like me having 3x dementia isnt a stupid little boy move?

[thorny zinc]

nah

[crystal pivot]

too good

[haughty root]

its not stupid but its probably not efficient if you have to farm for mats specifically

[thorny zinc]

its good you eventually upgrade them to void then to the specific class

[haughty root]

but you wont be gear all your dudes with anything that crafts from dementia either

[crystal pivot]

nah my DK was mining for days as a squire on dement so got heaps of mats

[haughty root]

troll is the base armor late game and isnt crafted from previous worlds

[crystal pivot]

right okay, ill just stick with 3x sets then

[thorny zinc]

you should stop skilling others

[haughty root]

kit your dudes with amarok armor

then troll when you can

[crystal pivot]

that shi ugly ash but yeah ok

[thorny zinc]

its so good for early tho

[vital forge]

troll or void?

[haughty root]

troll

[thorny zinc]

troll is better

[crystal pivot]

i was struggling with accuracy on w4 mobs with amarok though

[haughty root]

making more than 1 set of void is a waste of time

[crystal pivot]

pumped tf out of my stamps and bubles after that and still struggling ngl

[haughty root]

1 set for slab and your primary pusher

[toxic coyote]

AC stone

[haughty root]

2 sets to slab chiz and the brown stuff

i forget.. diabololical maybe?

[crystal pivot]

the wizard stone thing or ?

[toxic coyote]

since you have W4 just AC stone your gear

[haughty root]

yea lava was high when he made the diabolical armor line

[thorny zinc]

btw i recomend going with all the characters to complete the boss keys quests so you can grind troll armor easier

[terse cloud]

!merit3

[candid scarab]

1️⃣ One point into Telekinetic Storage which has an ability to deposit all items in your inventory into the chest while destroying everything on the ground. This is a great quality of life feature. Skip this if you have the ram companion.
2️⃣ Buy until you have 3 building spots and 3 food slots. This can be between 0 and 2 purchases depending on gem shop purchases. Food slots will help your pusher go faster and 3 building spots is a 50% construction speed boost.
3️⃣ Talent levels are hugely important and the library should be used as much as possible.
4️⃣ The 3D printer will be how you get most of you skilling materials in the future. To make good use of it you need your sample size to be as close to the 90% cap as possible.
5️⃣ Buy the rest. More slots = more better.
6️⃣ Leveling telekinetic storage gives up to +13.6% Carry Cap which is good for afking longer, stamps and crafting, but is not a priority early on.
7️⃣ You won't get enough points to consider buying respawn for a long time by which you will have cleared all W3 portals.
Get the first level when you reach rank 3 on orange salt and get another level each time a new salt reaches rank 3.
⚔️ The last recipe is for the Chizoars Caustic Scarf which is best in slot for a long time giving both damage and respawn. Get this when you can complete the associated task of beating Chizoar with 8 characters. Other recipes are for Chizoar gear. The helmet gives +15% damage and can be considered if you are making purple salt. The other pieces are mediocre but some make the chestplate for 3% damage.

[crystal pivot]

yeah im pushing all my characters through w3 now because i skipped to w4 map 4 on them all before w3

[haughty root]

i wish the bots would just DM you this info instead of spamming chat with it lol

[molten vapor]

from where i get the thing who gives me dmg every second while in worship?

[pastel heart]

the damage per second?

erm

[west pilot]

Atoms

[pastel heart]

equinox

[haughty root]

first platinum tool on the 1 character account

[thorny zinc]

one more armor piece and the weapon and my es is full build too

[west pilot]

Nah its equinox

Slow roast wizard

[thorny zinc]

my account is 3 months old im trying my best

[haughty root]

you're fine but why are you using w2 staff?

[thorny zinc]

i dont have troll armor yet i just defeated him yesterday

and for the weapon i dont have redox salt💀

[haughty root]

ur a long way from troll armor probably

[vital forge]

do i upgrade my current one or buy a 2nd?

[haughty root]

u dont have 150 red salts??

my man go back to world 3

[thorny zinc]

i do have 3k but i wait for the rank up

[dapper pelican]

did you use the vault already

[haughty root]

ive upgraded vault a bit why?

[dapper pelican]

just curious

[thorny zinc]

is it a better armor to craft in w5?

better than troll i mean

[dapper pelican]

the stats felt a little too low for a lvl125 character, that's why I asked

[thorny zinc]

thats what i thought too

[indigo ginkgo]

True

[dapper pelican]

my lvl119 barbarian

[haughty root]

hes doing his best he has no family

[dapper pelican]

I already replaced some of those with dementia, so uhh

[thorny zinc]

WHAT

[dapper pelican]

bro is an orphan, why

[indigo ginkgo]

What in the world is this

[vital forge]

" the 1 character account"

[dapper pelican]

I really need to get a life

[thorny zinc]

he might be the one

[haughty root]

he has no friends and yall are bullying him

[viral vapor]

he can go cry to god his DK ass

[dapper pelican]

all of my characters are lvl110+ now, and I am ik56 on zenless

nolife confirmed

[indigo ginkgo]

ZZZ?

[dapper pelican]

yes sir

[thorny zinc]

same here but i have ar60 in genshin too

[haughty root]

all of my characters are 123+

[vital forge]

tb70 in hsr with a e6 5 star

[dapper pelican]

isn't the cap 90 on genshin?

[thorny zinc]

so everyone here is a no lifer

[vital forge]

nah 60

i have a c6 and a r5 in genshin lol

c6r1 furina c1r5 hu tao

[thorny zinc]

so you spend money? or free2play?

[dapper pelican]

I have m1 jane and m6 seth, as well as a whole bunch of m0 banners

all f2p

m0w1 midyabi too, all skill F and leveled up

[vital forge]

m1w1 jane, m0w1 miyabi, m0w1 ellen

[empty agate]

I NEED MORE ACCURACY 😭😭

I tried everything

[thorny zinc]

bubbles, stamps and vault

[indigo ginkgo]

Bubbles

[empty agate]

Either I don't have the resources for it, or it didn't do much

[vital forge]

what lvl is shaquracy

[dapper pelican]

m1 jane, m0 burnice, m0 yanagi, m0w1 miyabi, m0 astra (my banner luck is dogwater)

[thorny zinc]

then farm the resources

[empty agate]

Tried that

[vital forge]

im only ik35 tho i havent played

[indigo ginkgo]

What world you are

[empty agate]

W4

[dapper pelican]

btw there's fishing on zenless now

[indigo ginkgo]

What is your gear?

[empty agate]

Only got 5k acc on my main

[thorny zinc]

thats pretty low

[indigo ginkgo]

Probably your gear is under the recommended

[empty agate]

The purple ore armor with the class helmet

[vital forge]

at what lvl should i turn my bowman into siege breaker

[thorny zinc]

please shut up i dont want to hear about fishing after i platinumed terraria

[dapper pelican]

"the protagonists are so weak" meanwhile Belle, casually pulling a 200kg shark out of the water: 🗿 🍷

[vital forge]

i just realised he's lvl231 and still on bowman

[empty agate]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[thorny zinc]

as fast as you can

[empty agate]

Did what this said

[vital forge]

^

[thorny zinc]

at least its the worst class

a wait bowman

[empty agate]

It's the one recommended

[thorny zinc]

nvm

[empty agate]

Yea I need help

[indigo ginkgo]

Your weapon?

[thorny zinc]

you should use idleon toolbox it will help you

[vital forge]

are my stats decent? ignore the p2w gear

forgor screenshot

[thorny zinc]

💀

[indigo ginkgo]

its pretty good I think

[empty agate]

The ice hammer or wtv it's called

[thorny zinc]

i bet you have doot too

[empty agate]

Btw I put w4 upgrades on everything, idk what I'm doing wrong

[indigo ginkgo]

What is the level of your secundary stats?

[empty agate]

What's that

[vital forge]

nope not yet

[nocturne escarp]

in equinox valley, world 3, how can i make the quest: "greenstack 20 different itens in your storage chest"?

[dapper pelican]

should I go for bubonic conjuror or elemental sorcerer first? I got both mage subclasses

[vital forge]

slime where

[thorny zinc]

thats kinda skill issue for a p2w player

[empty agate]

Like wym, the talent tab? Or js the stat

[indigo ginkgo]

3d print materials to 10million( greenstack=10 million)

[indigo ginkgo]

Talent tab

[empty agate]

Max

[nocturne escarp]

wtf haahaha so much

ty

[thorny zinc]

btw i heard phoenix wings are literally one of the best wings you should buy them

[indigo ginkgo]

Yeah I dont know lol, sorry

[vital forge]

i have them, the clock gives more afk gains

[empty agate]

Damnn

Im missing something

[thorny zinc]

i wont talk to you again😭

[empty agate]

I'ma show y'all my stats rq on my main

[indigo ginkgo]

shaqracy is what lvl?

[vital forge]

this is balanced

[empty agate]

Let me check

[atomic fable]

Does this mean I can rank up orange again?

[thorny zinc]

damnnn i will for sure buy them too. i just have autoloot and that bundle with levels on bubbles and stamps and meals

[vital forge]

vs clock

[thorny zinc]

ok i didnt know about the clock stats

[indigo ginkgo]

You need more bullfrog and forest log

[thorny zinc]

insane

[vital forge]

ig im stupid, since ive been doing online i shouldve been using wings

[indigo ginkgo]

But yes

[atomic fable]

I can print them if necessary

[vital forge]

idek what goes in the trophy slot

i just started w5

[thorny zinc]

...

[indigo ginkgo]

Now I see

Upgrade your helmet and boots

And the shaqracy to like lvl 30

[thorny zinc]

12 is too low

[vital forge]

i legit breezed through w4 so im quite behind on some stuff, minus lab since i afked for a while, all my chars are in divinity minus this one rn

[stoic elk]

who is best to push with till W4 boss?

[empty agate]

To what

[thorny zinc]

same im w5 now with all characters in divinity

[thorny zinc]

dk for sure

if you are active

[empty agate]

Alr, so I need to grind for blouches

[indigo ginkgo]

I could go to world 5, since my beastmaster do like 60 million, but I dont want to rush

[stoic elk]

so just let my game run?

[thorny zinc]

yep

[stoic elk]

problem is the item drops will prob crash my game cuz i dont have the auto pickup

my pc is pretty good but it gets really laggy

[vital forge]

i went through w4 with ES in like a week, so i have none of the mats and im behind on catching, trapping and whatever the souls one is called, im going through and catching up on one thing at a time

[indigo ginkgo]

Dementia, and if you have the materials go to void

[thorny zinc]

oh you could filter them

[stoic elk]

wdum

[vital forge]

i think i could legit get to w6 rn but im so incredibly behind on everything its not even worth

[indigo ginkgo]

Im just cooking to get the overpowered meals

[empty agate]

I mean I do have 400 void from the arena, I js gotta get more tickets

[thorny zinc]

btw do skilling on maestro

[vital forge]

im behind on cooking just bc not enough time has passed since i unlocked it

[indigo ginkgo]

I think you need to lvl mining

[red timber]

they do all matter, i would say! none of that time is wasted

[indigo ginkgo]

And print the void ore

[vital forge]

yeah ive gotta get one of those set up... ive got the gear, just gotta lvl up my journeyman since hes lvl85

[empty agate]

Alr

Thanks

[thorny zinc]

want me to add you ? we can help each other

[vital forge]

there we go

yeah sure

[thorny zinc]

finally

[indigo ginkgo]

Lvl your mining until you can get 100% void ore chance

[vital forge]

whats priority

[red timber]

looking backwards, alchemy was okay, i wish i focused on equinox a little more. i wish i focused on cooking and breeding a little more (thats past this chat so nvm)

[thorny zinc]

i meant to reply on the photo

[thorny zinc]

the first 4 talents i think

[indigo ginkgo]

I need to focus in the dungeon thing, I dont have the skill rings

[red timber]

@vital forge skilling or fighting build?

[red timber]

yeah i find dungeon most annoying since it must be timed

[indigo ginkgo]

True

I need to lvl my refinery too

[vital forge]

fighting hes my pusher rn

prob not optimal but oh well

my ES is in lab

[red timber]

well id say, flag and respawn are your main mechanics, max tyhem. id go even on the other 3, all of them are important

not easy to give you prios there

[thorny zinc]

ngl you could push w5 for divinity then just stop

[red timber]

is where my guy is at rn

[vital forge]

i have divinity unlocked

[thorny zinc]

oh thats good then

[indigo ginkgo]

What should be the level of my poisonic elder to get to wave 30 in world 3 worship?

[vital forge]

i can oneshot the mobs in the area im in rn

[thorny zinc]

lets wait 50 hours for a god

[thorny zinc]

1K TELEPORTERS?

[vital forge]

3 years of not playing

[red timber]

easy stacks once you have 1-3 buys in gem

with 7 buys and only 1k, that means electro is teleporting a LOT 😄

[vital forge]

well atp, whats the best class for pushing? idm respec'ing one of my characters

[thorny zinc]

i use at least 70 teleporters per day

[astral lava]

For w5, either ES or DK

[indigo ginkgo]

ES I think

[vital forge]

guh

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh well my ES is like lab lvl5 and i was planning on lvling it, does it matter?

or i make my shaman a ES...

[astral lava]

Can u activate killer's brightside node without him?

[red timber]

once you get past elite classes, aka w4 - ES is by far the best pusher

nobody can kill like my geared up wizards

[indigo ginkgo]

Push with Beastmaster

[vital forge]

my lab is currently fully empty minus that one, everyone is in divinity

everyone minus my ES is lab 40+

[astral lava]

In endgame, SB is the best- anyway, push with ES

[red timber]

even my downtrodder character 8 ES with no gear handouts, can crush anything else

ES is just better

[thorny zinc]

is it still that good ? i heard es or bubonic is better now

[vital forge]

mine, guess my sb is going in divinity, what do i lvl for skilling?

[opal surge]

!gear

[candid scarab]

Gear Recommendations

[astral lava]

My 10th character have 10Q dmg, and the first character to have that, just cuz he is SB, all others are 3Q-6Q

Except the other SB too

[thorny zinc]

interesting

[astral lava]

Quick slab be slabing

[vital forge]

damn toolbox doesnt even have anything

[thorny zinc]

for siege only but idk why

[red timber]

toolboc is limited

[thorny zinc]

i still dont know if i should go 2dk 2 es and 2 bubonic

[red timber]

this guide is old but more full featured than toolbox, it should at least keep you going - but it is not new, no DB on here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vST3HcgBgeq8H9jztaMhUXZAAAHl120PvDVo_48qJpn6n9qnpa-TWmuG_kN9cmtr66M-OtO482XIOAk/pubhtml#

[thorny zinc]

i think i like bubonic more than siege

[astral lava]

Don't go 2 bubo- why

[red timber]

by the time you run out on this guide though you should know on your own

[astral lava]

"Like" as what?

[red timber]

the purpose of bubo is to active to boost alchemy, cant active 2 characters at once

[astral lava]

Exactly

[thorny zinc]

i guess you are right

so 2dk 2 es and 2 siege?

[red timber]

yep that is the standard build

[astral lava]

Yup, 2m claims

[astral lava]

-# Current's meta is 3 DK

[thorny zinc]

okay i still need to level up my characters first anyway

[red timber]

3 dk? lol where is that meta 😮

[thorny zinc]

hell nah

maybe if i had 3 diff accounts

[indigo ginkgo]

Good for building lol

[red timber]

construction ends

DR doesnt

[astral lava]

None ended it yet

[astral lava]

DR decay

From SB bonus

[thorny zinc]

damn idleon feels likes bee swarm no end only despair

[indigo ginkgo]

Just in 2030

[red timber]

fair id like to see lava expand consturction

add more depth to some of the world skills

[astral lava]

None even ended it yet, why would it be expanded

[indigo ginkgo]

More towers

[indigo ginkgo]

Like the nuke tower

It would be fun

[astral lava]

Go suggest it then

[thorny zinc]

idleon td 6?

[red timber]

im just saying, the game can expand in many different ways. id like to see him expand the current shit, add more to construction, add more to alchemy as well

[indigo ginkgo]

Where is the paragons?

[astral lava]

Alchemy is being added to everytime a new world come

[red timber]

i also want expansion elites for my other classes like DB so, many things he can do 😛

[sterile root]

also there are two incremental games with animals that helps you get free stats and accuracy. the first one is orion the owl in world one. the second is poppy the kangaroo rat in world 2

[thorny zinc]

he should add more incremental games for every word (no one wants that)

[astral lava]

Hell no

[thorny zinc]

btw do we know what trading will be for?

[indigo ginkgo]

More bonuses(+ Pain and suffer)

[red timber]

i would disagree, i think people do want that. owl and poppy were imo great introductions into the game

[astral lava]

99% for companions (tradable ones)

[thorny zinc]

yeah i really enjoyed them

[red timber]

its catch-up mechanics for the wider playerbase

[thorny zinc]

oh makes sense

[indigo ginkgo]

Imagine a cooking incremental in world 4

[thorny zinc]

ngl he started to buff early game so much

[indigo ginkgo]

Money is so easy to get now

[thorny zinc]

yep i had an account i think 2 years ago and i was barely doing platinum coins in w3

the vault is crazy

[red timber]

it makes perfect sense to me. make early game easier, we want to entice new players and also not bore them with old mechanics. boost new players to endgame faster, so that laval can make endgame content which is actually useful for a large part of the players

[thorny zinc]

yeah the vault really was a nice idea

[sterile root]

although i feel like some of the skills will get glanced over and cause the newer players to be confused on how they work

[indigo ginkgo]

The damage buff from the vault is crazy too

[astral lava]

Not for late-endgamers

[thorny zinc]

even in that situation they could focus on one skill at a time

learning about how it works

[indigo ginkgo]

Yeah

[true hamlet]

Get more damage from alchemy and summoninh

[red timber]

i imagine the problem lava is dealing with is that, a large portion of the playerbase is in w6, but you create a problem if you only cater to the endgame players. get everyone into the same range so your updates in w6 are useful for your new players too

[thorny zinc]

yeah lava is smart. and also a noob

[sterile root]

but some skills take longer than others to get get going (fishing initially and alchemy off the top of my head)

[true hamlet]

Can be good and bad

[astral lava]

Lava literally knows Abt the game more than anyone

[low arrow]

Lava pushed me from w3 to w6 in less than a month with the vault

[indigo ginkgo]

Good to get more players in the game

[thorny zinc]

true but there are so many guides on youtube. i literally watched all griffy's review and i know almost all the mistakes that i shouldnt do

[true hamlet]

The number of people in w6 that complain about the progression there is increasing by the day

[red timber]

I've only been playing for around 10 months, but even now, i would say many guides i watched, are outdated - that is a GOOD THING

the game is actually changing. theres new mechanics that actually change the way you might go about things

[indigo ginkgo]

Griffy is the only reason my prints are actually good

[thorny zinc]

ik im just joking. he told me to call that big player a noob whenever i see him

[thorny zinc]

real

[indigo ginkgo]

The shop guide is really good too

[thorny zinc]

thats insane for a f2p game. and w6 looks insane

[thorny zinc]

shop guide?

[indigo ginkgo]

shop tierlist*

[thorny zinc]

oh for sure

[red timber]

w6 is easy to get to i would say, and very hard to complete. to get to the later maps, you must involes all game mechanics to boost your damage and stats

[true hamlet]

vault not giving me enough damage to skip to end of w6.. the mob health kinda doubles every map

[red timber]

theres 1,000 different multipliers in this game that add together

and its nearly impossible to complete w6 without using them

[thorny zinc]

ngl i could push to w6 just becase its my fav then focus on all the things

[thorny zinc]

and that new mechanic that you need to push all characters at once is interesting ngl

[indigo ginkgo]

Real

[zenith hare]

@echo radish

[thorny zinc]

lets not forget about this one. THE GOAT

[red timber]

😂

[thorny zinc]

i want to see someone actually maxing this out

[indigo ginkgo]

Im almost at 50 pickles

[zenith hare]

not even level 2?

[lone swan]

is there a way to decrease the materials it takes for the refinery

[thorny zinc]

never

[red timber]

i swear that thing shadow boosts some stat

[zenith hare]

you need to for an equinox

[thorny zinc]

...

[red timber]

lava reads too many mystery novels

to leave us with nothing

[zenith hare]

better start buying em~

[thorny zinc]

let me check equinox just so you wont troll me

[zenith hare]

go ahead

[white path]

I can confirm Meme is not trolling

[indigo ginkgo]

My equinox is just sad, I need to greenstack 13 more materials to progress

[zenith hare]

20?

[red timber]

he at 75 id guess

[zenith hare]

if so, ore and logs is the main set

[indigo ginkgo]

I already have 7

[thorny zinc]

[red timber]

oh k 20 😄

[zenith hare]

that upgrade is 5% Dr per level fyi

[red timber]

wiki knows all

[thorny zinc]

ugh i guess i will start buying pickels

[fast panther]

I learned I should not check how many gems I have during a Worship rounds T^T I got to wave 50

[thorny zinc]

i swear to god i will find lava

[red timber]

lol rip

gem shop does indeed reset your map :X

[indigo ginkgo]

The best thing you could buy from the world 2 shop

[thorny zinc]

done im end game now

[white path]

rookie numbers

[thorny zinc]

my goal from now on is to max this vial

i dont care about the game anymore the vial is all that matters

[indigo ginkgo]

Dont forget that exist another type of pickle in the game

[zenith hare]

only 1050m

[zenith hare]

another 2*

[thorny zinc]

ofc the black one for balls

[zenith hare]

and one of em has a vial

[thorny zinc]

oh yeah and the one from w6

[lone swan]

is there a way to speed up trapping

like candys or something

[indigo ginkgo]

Sadly no

[lone swan]

alright

[red timber]

not through candy, but of course construction holds your main benefit. some other benefits found throughout the game

[thorny zinc]

i forgot about the second most important thing

[red timber]

(im not that far yet)

[thorny zinc]

the hole

[lone swan]

also how do i get more traps

[red timber]

you build the trapping tool on each character

[indigo ginkgo]

Alchemy I think

[sterile root]

should i use the bottled wind and gaming fertilizer or should i just stock pile it?

[thorny zinc]

keep them for now

[lone swan]

ok thanks

[thorny zinc]

dont use like an idiot called shadow that cant wait more than 5 minutes for a thing

[indigo ginkgo]

There is a bubble that increase your efficiency, so you can get more traps if you equip

[sterile root]

you build better trapping tools with the shiny variants of critters

[thorny zinc]

and if you have sheepie pet you dont need to equip big bubbles at all

[indigo ginkgo]

The vault has an upgrade too

[thorny zinc]

thats one of the best early game pets

[lone swan]

why does it say this i just tried placing a trap on a different character

[sterile root]

you need a trapping tool for every character

here's an example of one of the traps. It has more traps than typical bc of my alchemy bubbles

[indigo ginkgo]

The game dont want me to get sheepie, I have like 4 of the volcano guy

[indigo ginkgo]

But I got lucky and have the rift sludge

[thorny zinc]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=ShadowAdv for who wants to roast me i will gladly listen to all bad things you have to say about my account

[lone swan]

i dont think i have that bubble yet

[thorny zinc]

try to unlock it soon it is pretty good

and if you need to keep track on what you should do/focus on you can se idleon toolbox or idleon efficiency or idleon IT

[indigo ginkgo]

Get a shaman if you dont have already, its pretty good for unlocking bubbles

[thorny zinc]

yeah only try unlocking bubbles on shaman

makes your life easier

[red timber]

as far as i can tell you are early, keep pumping levels. after that, work on skill eff on your mainskillers so you can increase 3d printing to increase atom gain

[lone swan]

yeah i got it already

[thorny zinc]

thats the main problem. i need to make my maestro better than the others and i cant skill rn on any other character

[red timber]

why do you say you 'cant skill'?

you want to hold them for vman?

to make it easier for him to be #1?

[sterile root]

family obols could improve. replace the circular obols with silver pop obols. i think you can get them at big frogs

[thorny zinc]

yeah

[thorny zinc]

i cant rn i only have 3.3 drop rate

[red timber]

i wouldnt worry about that, use your prayers and your cards to control who is top level and producing what

[indigo ginkgo]

Upgrade the passive that makes getting news bubble more easy

[thorny zinc]

okay i will try thx a lot

[red timber]

keep leveling and using your normal guys if you need resources

your vman will catch them ez if you set him u p right

[lone swan]

alright thankyou

[thorny zinc]

alright but rn is w5 peak gameplay

[red timber]

imo you are pushing strong beyond your levels, based on when i was pushing into w5. many new bonuses, its cool that this game is changing how the early game goes - i love it.

[indigo ginkgo]

I would say that you need better gear

[lone swan]

what is this item

[indigo ginkgo]

Rat tail

[thorny zinc]

jane doe tail

[sterile root]

rat tail. you get it in the sewers world 1

[lone swan]

oh ok thankyou

[thorny zinc]

i am working on full dementia gear on all characters too

[red timber]

@thorny zinc You want to have a character strong enough to push into map 4 on w5 - that will unlock the caverns, which all your characterts can use, probably more useful for you than divinity

[visual star]

is combustion faster than synthesis?

[indigo ginkgo]

Yes

[sterile root]

i'd recommend doing some rift stuff. the rift 16 bonus will be helpful

[indigo ginkgo]

1 synthesis is like 5 combustion cycles

[sterile root]

you can actually tp to the caverns on the map. i did it by accident when i first got to w5

[thorny zinc]

wait the cavers that you unlock them in the hole ? or are there new mining zones?

[lone swan]

is there a way to like derank a thing in the refinery

[red timber]

oh is it unlocked free with w5? didnt know

[visual star]

ohh so even if i only have 2 blue ones per combustion, and the green one needs two, my blue one will gradually profit still,,, monke explanation

[red timber]

the hole is what im talking about, didnt know you get it with w5 for free

[sterile root]

i guess, i saw a place i could tp despite the other areas being blocked. I got to w5 like a week ago

[visual star]

pretty sure ure cooked

[thorny zinc]

yeah its free but i dont really understand the glorious hole yet

[lone swan]

danm

[thorny zinc]

im here rn

[red timber]

it has a LOT of account wide bonuses inside. very huge side piece of content

[visual star]

yeat thats what it means to be salt locked

just redo this

[thorny zinc]

isnt rift for later ? im still early

[sterile root]

i'm early/mid w5 and I'm at rift ~25

[red timber]

rift is w4

[thorny zinc]

damn ok i will do them too

[sleek pollen]

rift is mid w5

[indigo ginkgo]

How can I send my idle toolbox profile?

[thorny zinc]

i havent even opened all the portals yet

[red timber]

rift is in w4

[sleek pollen]

IT > Data > update public profile and there's your link above

[red timber]

Dadoums just wrong

[indigo ginkgo]

Thanks

[thorny zinc]

yeah ik

[sleek pollen]

it is, but its more of a w5 thing to unlock

unlocking it in w4 is just wrong

[red timber]

its something you should do all the time as far as your characters can accomplish the challenge

[sterile root]

also, can people let me know where i should focus stuff. Here's my IE https://gamba_bomba.idleonefficiency.com/

[thorny zinc]

let me kill some dogs first

[red timber]

some of the bonuses in the rift are absolutely game changing

[sleek pollen]

never said you shouldn't do it, you unlock it in w5 and do it from that point on as you'd have some bonus from here and there with sailing and gods

[red timber]

do not sleep on it is all im saying

[fresh sable]

What's the beat use of those void Perls we got from the event? Level cooking?

[sleek pollen]

dawg

[thorny zinc]

yet another mechanic dw i have 999 more to focus

[indigo ginkgo]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Skittles_mango What can I focus?

[red timber]

@thorny zinc agreed 😛

[jolly kiln]

finally got this

getting kills will be alot easier for starting a world finally!

[thorny zinc]

thats huge

[indigo ginkgo]

The Goat

[jolly kiln]

I got some blue salt production already

[red timber]

when starting worlds are you already multikilling?

[jolly kiln]

I want sheepie so bad

[jolly kiln]

100k all mobs in world 1 100k mobs in world 2 soonish

[indigo ginkgo]

Depends if you are pushing too much from a world to other

[thorny zinc]

imagine having sheepie we already know that every pro player has doot

[jolly kiln]

I dont have doot either

[red timber]

youd have to be boosted af i think to be multikilling on any part of the content you are 'pushing'

[frozen pond]

Did they change w3 defences? I had 0 dmg from bop boxes but now its 800 def?

[jolly kiln]

Im not going for that im just getting worlds 1 and 2 for salt mats

[thorny zinc]

um how do i get the stone?

[indigo ginkgo]

They buufed the accuracy and defense from the mobs of world 3

[sterile root]

click the bucket and change it to normal stone

[red timber]

unlock with enginerring guy

on the campfire

[frozen pond]

no but like ltl I had 0 dmg and 100% acc for the bop boxed like 4 hours ago

[sleek pollen]

switch with the bucket to farm the ore or next rock layer to access next ore, more buck from schematics

[red timber]

you have to push maps to unlock the villagers

[frozen pond]

and now I have like 90% acc and not even close to the defence

[sleek pollen]

if you like to read https://discord.com/channels/437797104786604034/1303761365273415700

[thorny zinc]

and btw i should mine this beautifull rock until i dont have enough eff

[jolly kiln]

I need to go for these next 💀

these pritns are so weak for blue salts

[red timber]

yep, to get opals, to level the mechanics faster

[thorny zinc]

i watched that and i got more confused than ever

[jolly kiln]

30*~16

[indigo ginkgo]

Dont forget the copper ore for atom collider

[jolly kiln]

Im not there yet

but I got good copper for now

im having fun t aking it step by step

I could rush to w5 but that wouldnt be fun for me

[red timber]

no reason to rush the game, theres a lot of different mecanics to learn

[jolly kiln]

Id rather take it slower and not be overwhelmed

[jolly kiln]

Yeap thats how I feel

I got so many dailys atm anyways

[red timber]

you arent fighting against anyone

[sleek pollen]

ehh thats like a end game thing

[red timber]

just building your own shit

[jolly kiln]

both idlers arnt quite good enough for how I feel

[thorny zinc]

yeah dont rush them you will probably die before max them all

[jolly kiln]

my beloved

[indigo ginkgo]

Im slow pushing since world 3 because I dont want a account that has lvl 300 ES with dementia gear

[thorny zinc]

the goat

from fighting cool enemies and insane bosses to a hole and a rock

[sterile root]

I used the rock to get many opals early

i did a 2-1 opal ratio for the first villager to the second villager

[red timber]

i will say though as someone who has played for a while - to some newer players - ALL of the mehcnaics are important. your stamps, your statues, your post office, alchemy, owl and fisharoo, construction trapping etc etc - they all end up with big account wide bonuses

[sleek pollen]

now that you have hole your dk might surpass you mman skilling level

[red timber]

which all adds up into how you get through w6

[thorny zinc]

He already level up once💀

[jolly kiln]

I produce enough for the next tier so at this point im just going for that

[tribal owl]

anyone know how to speed up my gameplay is currently stagnant am stuck at world 3 and 4 mostly world 3 as l am waiting hours for those green salt to refine as l need like 10k since l gotta make the tier 3 class armor for all my characters and it takes like an hour for each refinement

[jolly kiln]

my other chars will only skill for samples at this point

besides mm

who will grind for xp and the stamps I missed while hes at it

[thorny zinc]

do vault upgrades, stamps, bubbles and i think you can easily go for at least w4

[thorny zinc]

do your dungeons another important thing

[red timber]

you dont need green salt based armor to push through w3.

[jolly kiln]

is this a good ratio? ill prob have it more extreme than this as I dont really need to push orange salts yet and kinda want more red salts to spend

but once I get I guess the next rank of red ill get a rank of orange

[indigo ginkgo]

Probably yes

[jolly kiln]

oh I should rank up my orange accordign to this

[indigo ginkgo]

Goat

[jolly kiln]

but meh I think its fine for now

[tribal owl]

ye am at world 4 early there am just grinding levels nothing to do there except get my voidwalker class but it gonna take weeks or months seens my damage is still low l wanna know how to boost it since l am starting to work towards voidwalker and my currently dmg l can get around 20k enemies per hour which is not too fast since l need to get 36 other 1 mil kills and the enemies get stronger

[thorny zinc]

keep in mind that you need the merit upgrade too

[indigo ginkgo]

Now I can save my refinery from disaster

[jolly kiln]

I got it

up till blue

[thorny zinc]

are you pushing with maestro?

[rapid prism]

Wait until w5

[tribal owl]

at first yes but then l put all my strong characters cause l misheard and thought l only needed 1 mil on all blunderhill monster then l rechecked and its 1 mil on world 1, 2 and 3

[rapid prism]

W 5 is a better place to grind

[jolly kiln]

sample size last one? or green salt salt cost scaling(I wont have green salts for a WHILE)

[red timber]

absolutely should not be taking you months. which mehcanic have you been avoiding? in w1/2/3?

[tribal owl]

idk anything am meant to know

[indigo ginkgo]

Lvl the maestro skills to get a damage multiplier from the passive

[thorny zinc]

i recomend pushing with smth else not maestro

[jolly kiln]

I could probably beat w4 in like 2 days but im enjoying myself lmao

[tribal owl]

what skill

[red timber]

meastro is the WORST pusher on the team

[indigo ginkgo]

The lowest

[thorny zinc]

yep

[jolly kiln]

facts

[dapper pelican]

THE jack of all trades, master of none

[rapid prism]

If you still want to get vman afk your mman on gmush while your other chars push w1-3

[tribal owl]

huh wydm the lowest

[jolly kiln]

master of slow skill xp rates

[dapper pelican]

so real

[thorny zinc]

at first i thought maestro was the best class in the game💀

[rapid prism]

Maestro is so slow

I had to candy him to get to 150

[dapper pelican]

btw, is 3m non-crit damage okay in w4

[red timber]

@tribal owl Do you have your elite classes yet? map 4 on w4 i think it is ?

[jolly kiln]

I didnt suprisingly but thats probably bc I refuse to neglect even a single mechanic at all

[rapid prism]

It's fine but depends on char

[indigo ginkgo]

If fishing is lvl 15, push until he is the same lvl of the second lowest skill

[tribal owl]

not really at first it is but then your other char start getting stronger and the skill that boost exp gain if ur other char skill is lower kinda becomes useless

[jolly kiln]

I ended up w/ this bubble level as my highest atm

[tribal owl]

ye l got it for everything

[dapper pelican]

in my case, it's a lvl107 mage (wizard)

[jolly kiln]

Just got it bc i have that much extra from printing for salts

[thorny zinc]

then you could easily push with dk

[jolly kiln]

tho I have a print slot for alch at this point

[red timber]

@tribal owl Okay, then ES is your best pusher. Put your best gear and extra items onto him, he will be your best pusher. After that, it will be your best DK

[tribal owl]

ye my dmg is still low am in the 7 million with dk

[rapid prism]

For es it's kinda low for his thunder skill

If it's the other skills then good

[jolly kiln]

I just realized I can get like blue tier on this

[west pilot]

that's enough to finish w4

[indigo ginkgo]

True

[dapper pelican]

i am yet to unlock es and the bubonic guy, so it's just a normal wizard for now

[tribal owl]

ye my es is op he does 32 mil dmg

[thorny zinc]

do you have hemoglobin right?

[rapid prism]

Oh then it's really good but try to hard push to elite

[tribal owl]

is that a star talent

[jolly kiln]

my highest dmg is like 30mil-50mil w/ active dmg talents rn

[dapper pelican]

omw

[karmic frost]

Does skill afk gain rate include class skill?

Amarok card

[rapid prism]

No

[karmic frost]

danke

[thorny zinc]

yeah the one that helps survability

[rapid prism]

It needs to be fight afk or afk gain rate

[rapid prism]

The chaotic Amarok is fight afk

[indigo ginkgo]

My highest I think its ES doing 300 million with the skills

[jolly kiln]

my friend got sheepie as first roll

[tribal owl]

ye l dont really need survability am strong enough so far am at the worms right now

[jolly kiln]

theres a reason I put early w4 and not mid/late as my little tag in my name

[karmic frost]

u get different card from chaotc? and that one is fight afk gain?

[thorny zinc]

dont say that just upgrade it please

[rapid prism]

Yes

[indigo ginkgo]

My bad

[vernal hinge]

hey so i have a question i got this for the tower defense but i don't know how it works because when i click towers in the td it shows nothing

[winged lily]

What end game meals to ribbon

[tribal owl]

not really l got my dmg boost and everything good on my em but he only kills 20k enemies per hour with 32 mil dmg maximum dmg while my maestro with like 10 mil dmg does 25k kills per hour

[red timber]

@tribal owl Start making the best gear for your ES and DK, then as you get stronger you pass it down to your other characters. Those 2 are your strongest for now

[rapid prism]

Btw the guy that's trying to Vman at w4 don't bother it gets infinitely easier after the 3rd div

[jolly kiln]

im not mad at ya what world u on for that dmg?

im curious

[indigo ginkgo]

I think the ones that increase meal speed

[indigo ginkgo]

World 4

[red timber]

Thats probably because you have items like wings and such on your maestro,

[jolly kiln]

near the end?

[vernal hinge]

hey so i have a question i got this for the tower defense but i don't know how it works because when i click towers in the td it shows nothing

[indigo ginkgo]

1 portal after the elite class

[tribal owl]

alr OH YE l wanted to ask whats a good worship build am trying to build my next anvil but l cant kill the ice souls and still stuck at those orange souls and cant get far

[indigo ginkgo]

Im doing the vman quest

[red timber]

0 chance your maestro can kill better than an es or dk, just not possible. only if you make your ES and dk incredibly weak. maybe you have wings or nametags or trophies etc, on your meastro. but he cant compete - thats not his role

[jolly kiln]

wtf thats less than me

[indigo ginkgo]

So I was getting 1 million kills for every mob

[rapid prism]

Those are shrines you get the star talent at the second page then you can place them in the world

[indigo ginkgo]

lol

[jolly kiln]

Im 2-3 away from where rift is

[rapid prism]

The tower defense stuff is the stuff above them

[jolly kiln]

is ur account older?

[jolly kiln]

mines 3-5 weeks old

[true hamlet]

The 2nd row are towers that are placable in TD, if you haven't built any, you won't be able to place towers

[rapid prism]

Oh you need to do the icecream quest

[vernal hinge]

i have dpme ot

[vernal hinge]

oh ok thanks so i need to get more red powder?

[dapper pelican]

the shrines give AFK bonuses. TOWERS (the middle ones) help you in tower defense

[indigo ginkgo]

I have this account since 2023, but I really started playing in september of 2024

[red timber]

well the main thing for worship is that you need to focus construction - to get all your towers to max level, and then you increase their max levels through the atom collider (Which is also construction).

[rapid prism]

My issue is I'm salt locked my construction is way ahead of it

[jolly kiln]

that explains it yea still more time

im time gated on so much stuff

[tribal owl]

oh should l stop trying to rush to the higher towers when l do towers l mainly just place the boulder tower and ice tower and l recently got the thunder and party one so l start placing them nearby for buff

[jolly kiln]

thats how im doing it I "ignore" worship progression for just getting souls for 1-2 days sometimes longer then get a boost up in waves after

[indigo ginkgo]

Me opening the game in september lol

[rapid prism]

Definitely rush to kraken the rest you can safely ignore for now

[red timber]

well focus on unlocking all of the towers in terms of construction and pushing worship. but then on the maps i mean, boulder is very strong, test combinations - but you are so early in the worship part that there arent many strategies for it. but boulder is very strong early

[tribal owl]

ye l got him l got him recently

[rapid prism]

Since all you need is karken for early td

[jolly kiln]

yea but from september till now youve gotten more time on time gated stuff

[dapper pelican]

@vernal hinge

[indigo ginkgo]

Yeah

[dapper pelican]

(i havent used my drawing tablet in ages, just wanted to use it xd)

[jolly kiln]

https://hhhjb01.idleonefficiency.com/

[red timber]

yeah after a while you realize, worship "progression" can only be done like once a month or something lol. because it becomes very limiting. for a while you just collect souls

[jolly kiln]

this is my acc atm

[indigo ginkgo]

One thing that helped me a lot was watching the guides from Griffy

[jolly kiln]

I learned more from watching his acc roasts lmao

[lone swan]

how do people get to the point of millions of items/hour

[indigo ginkgo]

Me too lol

[lone swan]

from 3d printer

[jolly kiln]

check my stamp total level

[wraith turret]

For the achievment get 2k hours afk in total of all charchters can it be any map or only yum yum dessert

[red timber]

very high dmg or skill efficiency, plus afk bonuses

[indigo ginkgo]

69 nice

[dapper pelican]

deployed on Vercel, huh

[jolly kiln]

I wanna see ur IE you know how to share it like I just did?

[jolly kiln]

vercel?

[indigo ginkgo]

I use the Toolbox

[dapper pelican]

nvm

[indigo ginkgo]

https://idleontoolbox.com/?profile=Skittles_mango

[heady goblet]

so is there a way to get all my characters to the 3 class guy without killing all the enemies needed, if 1 has gotten there?

[dapper pelican]

it's basically a web hosting thingy

[jolly kiln]

glad I checked my stamps I can get +2 liquid cap for all couldrons

[red timber]

no they need to open the maps themselves

[indigo ginkgo]

You need to push every character to the class guy

[jolly kiln]

that means I can afk for 1/7th of an hour longer w/o checking alch

[heady goblet]

bah, was rought getting a 110 archer there

[rapid prism]

Just buy the cauldron upgrades

[jolly kiln]

I maxxed those

[indigo ginkgo]

@jolly kiln If you want to see its there

[jolly kiln]

oh you have gstacks

no wonder you can get more dmg

[indigo ginkgo]

gstacks increases damage?

[jolly kiln]

thing in lab

but also if ur reaching that

you got more construction done and stuff

[indigo ginkgo]

Im upgrading the towers to do the world 3 worship

[jolly kiln]

Ive only done green souls rn tho im getting close to yellow

[indigo ginkgo]

My lab needs love lol

I need to see a guide

[jolly kiln]

My lab is slowly expandign rn w/ 4 chars in lab jail

1 char in cooking jail
1 char 100k kills on the enemy types I can easily do it for(w1-2)

[indigo ginkgo]

I will do lab jail after I finish Vman quest

[jolly kiln]

1 char doing quests for my missing stamps(mman rn)

and 1 char just sitting around I need to put him in lab but im lazy I wish I could auto claim souls

[royal nexus]

in Construction, do i gain Consturction exp passively by Building things?
do i get exp when a Building finishes?

[jolly kiln]

so he just sits as a reminder to claim them and gets a ton of kills on that mob(nearing 1m)

[indigo ginkgo]

No one of my characters are escaping

[red timber]

passively for time spent

[red timber]

much like alchemy

[jolly kiln]

oh your in a good guild too

im in my own guild by myself mostly

[indigo ginkgo]

I dont know how you are in Worship, but I would recommend getting the kraken tower

[jolly kiln]

best guild thing for me rn

[indigo ginkgo]

Instead of the shrine

[tepid dune]

same lol i am a little farther though

[indigo ginkgo]

Oh yeah, the guild is a big thing

[red timber]

Spots available, just sayin 😉

[indigo ginkgo]

The buffs are really good

[indigo ginkgo]

Im in Chrule sorry

[tepid dune]

i might, i got to w5 without it though

[crisp bay]

what do i do i messed up with the spicy cooking quest from Gobo and cant seem to finish it even when i buy and use ladals

[true hamlet]

Buy ladles? From where

[red timber]

try forfeit quest

[indigo ginkgo]

Did you upgrade the plates?

[crisp bay]

ive done that multiple times and havent been able to get it to work

[crisp bay]

yes dose that break it

[jolly kiln]

Im in a guild called Spoi and dont wanna leave bc I like it but ty for the offer

[indigo ginkgo]

You need to afk in cooking

[red timber]

perfectly fair 😉

[jolly kiln]

just unlocked heart things in breeding today!

[indigo ginkgo]

This quest?

[crisp bay]

so just afk for the 15 and then ladal it

[dapper pelican]

is this normal, or does it look cursed

[crisp bay]

yes that one

[red timber]

or use 16 ladles

[rapid prism]

Looks fine

[indigo ginkgo]

A little bit cursed

[dull jewel]

What do the gold stars mean for 3d printer

[rapid prism]

But if you want to min max use cogoptimizer

[dapper pelican]

thanks dude

[crisp bay]

ill try the afk then ladal

[dapper pelican]

also, it's not in the wiki. What's that?

[indigo ginkgo]

You are cooking a new recipe right?

[red timber]

https://monoblos.github.io/cogtimizer/

[indigo ginkgo]

Thing from the Idleon Toolbox(I think)

[rapid prism]

Basically it optimizes cogs into an ideal position to maximize a specific stat

[jolly kiln]

skittles are you at 2.9k stamp lvl damn

[rapid prism]

Note if you are using steam acc it's not usable

[dapper pelican]

thanks

[jolly kiln]

and some of your stamps are blue border(excluding losing greenstacks)(can be upgraded)

[crisp bay]

ya i did it with a new recipe but the afk timme dosent seem to be going up

[indigo ginkgo]

Yeah, lastday I was like 30 min just upgrading

[indigo ginkgo]

I was trying to upgrade everything unti the material cost was 100k

[red timber]

you have to upload your profile for it to work. generally the easiest for for that is to use IdleonEfficiency, and hit upload profile. but if you can download your data you can paste it in too

[jolly kiln]

your owl is less far than mine is but its far as you need it for a while

[dapper pelican]

well, i play on both mobile and steam

[jolly kiln]

I just check owl daily at this point for some extra drop rate

[lone swan]

does stuff like trash island give the you trash every shop reset?

[indigo ginkgo]

Yeah I need to do this thing

[rapid prism]

Yes

[lone swan]

ok thankyou

[jolly kiln]

I need to get some of my bubbles past 50% of what I can do

[indigo stratus]

Anybody have characters that start with s and p

[red timber]

active cc farm

[indigo ginkgo]

Print and farm

[dapper pelican]

it's in the raw data section, right?

[indigo stratus]

I think I need another player for the peak gaming quest, right?

[indigo ginkgo]

Yes

[jolly kiln]

cant yet

[red timber]

im not 100% positive since i use the IE upload profile method. sorry :<

[jolly kiln]

but I got alot of liquid regen 14/hr

[latent bramble]

By afk you mean swapping to a different character or closing the game, correct?

[indigo stratus]

Can anybody meet me on pecunia 1 for the quest

[heady goblet]

at 117, where should i be world wise?

[indigo ginkgo]

world 4

[indigo stratus]

w1 town

[red timber]

@indigo stratus Which you need, P or S?

[indigo stratus]

both

[heady goblet]

yeah, see w4, even the caps wreck me

[red timber]

@indigo stratus Come Soul1, w1 town

[crisp bay]

yes but mybe ill give some time

[indigo stratus]

I'm kimchicube

[heady goblet]

if i go to the caps, its like a hit chance of 40%

[red timber]

@indigo stratus Come soul 1, w1 town

[dapper pelican]

what's that??

so much jargon, jeez

[jolly kiln]

finally

[indigo stratus]

I'm there

[red timber]

ie = idleon efficiency

[dapper pelican]

idleon efficiency? i see

[indigo ginkgo]

You are pushing with beastmaster?

[heady goblet]

yes?

[red timber]

@indigo stratus you get the P?

[heady goblet]

i like ranger styles XD

[indigo ginkgo]

Goat

[heady goblet]

?

[indigo stratus]

no, don't you have to say "1 star, game sucks!"

[lone swan]

is dimentia armor worth getting? im using amarok rn and i can survive fine

[rapid prism]

Worth

[indigo ginkgo]

Yes

[jolly kiln]

Oh that one I got that w/ some help it was worth hunting someone down

[static belfry]

you should get it before clammies

[jolly kiln]

+14 total stats from it now

[rapid prism]

Dimentia is very good until you get to w6

[lone swan]

alright thankyou

[mellow flame]

how do i use the 3d printer, it just shows locked on the rightside

[indigo stratus]

I got P

[mellow flame]

i already have the star talent btw

[jolly kiln]

all stats whoops I messed up the name a bit

[indigo stratus]

got em both, thanks

[red timber]

@indigo stratus get those?

cool 👍

[indigo ginkgo]

I need this stamp

[indigo stratus]

It's from the peak gaming questline

[jolly kiln]

is this enough souls to be ready to start trying to get yellow ones?

I assume its a bit overkill

[indigo ginkgo]

Yes

[jolly kiln]

this is one session of green worth btw(actually less)

[haughty root]

ur gonna need millions of those bad boys, but you also need yellows too

[jolly kiln]

I havnt run into anything needing yellows yet

[indigo ginkgo]

For the bubbles and construction, but more in the end game

[jolly kiln]

how do I increase this stack size limit?

[red timber]

dont base it on the amount of cleared towers in a previous world. you want to unlock all of them and push their waves as far as possible. btw, your hunter is actually your best worship pusher

[jolly kiln]

I make so much I fill my inven in one go

[red timber]

increase bag size, craftable, for worship - it literally has the ghost icon on it

[haughty root]

how do you get to w4 without knowing how to increase material size?

[indigo ginkgo]

Bag

[jolly kiln]

I cant do that more

is there other sources?

[indigo ginkgo]

The bag from the shop

25% more capacity for every type of material

[indigo stratus]

you haven't rolled the ram from free pets yet?

[jolly kiln]

got it I guess I cant get too much more rn then

[red timber]

sounds extremely unlikely

[jolly kiln]

Only 3 rolls done so far my acc is relatively pretty new

[jolly kiln]

I know how but I want more than just the baggie its too smol

I got like 30k souls in 1 sesh

[indigo stratus]

what level are you on in TD?

[red timber]

the gem shop purchases matter, getting a ram matters, but still you should be able to have big enough bags through straight unlocks in the anvil to hold anything worship will give you

[indigo ginkgo]

The Vault has an upgrade that increase the bag limit

[jolly kiln]

40 in green

I do a sesh like once per 3 days atm

[indigo ginkgo]

What is the towers that you have?

[jolly kiln]

not stronk enough

rollers are my strongest atm

[indigo stratus]

idk how you're getting 30k souls at level 40 that's way more than I get at 80

[indigo ginkgo]

Push towers

[jolly kiln]

its not in 1 go

[indigo ginkgo]

And upgrade them(boulder and ice)

[jolly kiln]

I said a sesh like using the collective thingy tallent

this thing

[indigo stratus]

you should never use that lmao

[jolly kiln]

why? im curious

[indigo ginkgo]

I only use when I dont have the time to use in every character

[jolly kiln]

Ill get storm caller soon I can get scorpie

[indigo stratus]

because if you don't level up all your chars worship and upgrade their skulls you get stunted fast

charge can get you like 10x more if everyone has even ceramic skulls

[hoary pebble]

That's a huge trap. Your ES will become so high leveled you're gonna struggle to keep your Maestro (which will be Vman at some point) at a higher level. It also cripples your other characters because you want them to also have worship levels.

[indigo ginkgo]

True

[red timber]

the same reason you dont use eagle eye on your hunter - you want to spread the exp so everyone has higher skill levels

[jolly kiln]

good to know got it

[jolly kiln]

eagle eye hoards xp?

it says it shares it right here

[red timber]

umm k fair 😛

but you should use trapper drone not eagle eye

[jolly kiln]

I dont have that yet

[indigo stratus]

if you're in w4 you should just use vacuum box

[indigo ginkgo]

Or you can manually trap

[jolly kiln]

scary

[indigo ginkgo]

[static belfry]

Just realized that I haven't done this quest too... anyone help me?

carrot 15

[red timber]

from my understanding, trapper drone allows you to use trap bopnuses of your hunter, on the traps of your other characters

[jolly kiln]

all my chars start w/ H so I cant help sorry

[red timber]

if you set them with the hunter

[jolly kiln]

My chars are literally HHHjb01-HHHjb08

[indigo stratus]

it's best to set them with vman but you probably won't get vman until w5

[thorny zinc]

focus on getting 1k monster rating it will take a lot anyway

[static belfry]

sure

shouldn't take too long with bubo

[indigo stratus]

if you're W6 it'll take like 5 mins with ES

[umbral crystal]

accuracy scaling in w4 is becoming a real struggle, is there any significant way to improve it? I've done crafting for acc stats and have put a bunch of vault points and stamps into it

[indigo stratus]

cards

[thorny zinc]

whats your shaquracy bubble level

[hoary pebble]

Have you been doing both clickers?

[umbral crystal]

im late to kangaroo but both are running yes

[dark cape]

Alchemy the way to go probably

[umbral crystal]

definitely way too low

[indigo stratus]

if you have diamond red mush and at least gold neptuneye you should be fine with accuracy into early w6

[thorny zinc]

then focus on getting those bubbles up and you will be fine

[jolly kiln]

so close

[hoary pebble]

If you work on shaquracy you won't struggle much

Or you'll struggle way less

[indigo stratus]

total accuracy cards are additive though so you can have at least 40% accuracy on everything

[jolly kiln]

I dont think ive struggled w/ accuracy or defense due to just doing the clickers as if they are just a daily(not hourly thats spooky)

[lone swan]

is there a secret on how to hold 25k ice cubes in my inv i have done alot and can only hold like 17k ice cubes

[jolly kiln]

this carries my accuracy rn

[indigo stratus]

craft material bags

[dapper pelican]

it will become an issue past cupcakes and onwards

[crisp bay]

where do i summon biggie hours for the maestro quest

[latent bramble]

Mimics

[slender lichen]

unlucky man

[jolly kiln]

Im past cupcakes

I got shaqracy up a bit too

[dapper pelican]

i was struggling with the djinn guys at the colosseum

[jolly kiln]

• stamps up quite a bit(overall)

[thorny zinc]

lary is really the goat

[heady goblet]

Good way for farm the bloachs?

[jolly kiln]

true

[slender lichen]

jman with 11.1k acc due to its only focus being in luck:

[dapper pelican]

AFK fishing, colosseummaxxing

[jolly kiln]

my mman has 50k accuracy

[static belfry]

equip boost foods and cards and take a huge sample

[hoary pebble]

Increase fishing efficiency and have your barbarian class print them.

[dapper pelican]

if he is in w3, that is

[slender lichen]

exactly my point

[heady goblet]

my print now for them says

[jolly kiln]

I have alot of base stat for accuracy

[dense onyx]

which colloseum gives most gems per ticket

[jolly kiln]

lowest of the 3 base stat bubbles(I need to work on it

[upper moss]

How do chips work

[hoary pebble]

You equip them in the lab's console. Each character has chip slots that are unlocked with lab levels.

[digital eagle]

Do I keep this talent unlevelled to help vman

[upper moss]

Is it just for the character slot its in

soif i leave the lab the boost will take effect

Even touhj its notnonline

[jolly kiln]

hardest/longest part of doing roo when u reset is the shinies

repeatedly spamming it for blue

[digital eagle]

120 billion purples but no black or blue yet

[indigo stratus]

If you already have vman you should just be keeping him higher leveled with pearls anyway

[jolly kiln]

then I do long waits for bigger shiny #s

[slender lichen]

honestly rn im hard farming orion (not like i need to do it to move forward but might as well get it out of the way)

[digital eagle]

levels too high for divinity pearls or black pearls

[jolly kiln]

how far into are u?

[slender lichen]

6th megafeather....

[jolly kiln]

explains a bit of ur accuracy problem im on 12 of the rainbow

[indigo stratus]

Well if you're above level 50 in worship then yeah

[slender lichen]

makes sense

[jolly kiln]

the base stats help a bit

whats ur roo at?

[indigo stratus]

I'm at 12 megafeathers and I'm pretty sure it's diminishing returns at this point

[slender lichen]

not even 1 mega catch

[jolly kiln]

oh

so u dont have the accuracy % up yet

[slender lichen]

i think 2 normal resets

[jolly kiln]

yea get that(take it slowish to get those sweet reset bonus points)

[jolly kiln]

It is a bit time investment wise but its good to do it daily

droprate class and skill xp, and all stat are quite good

especially drop rate no matter how small helps get those rare drops and some money mult increases

[indigo stratus]

Going past 16 takes years though so it's pretty much over at that point

[jolly kiln]

Im still gonna do it daily

[jolly kiln]

16 total megafeathers or the rainbow?

[slender lichen]

i have the 4% acc up and thats about it

[jolly kiln]

I assume rainbow?

[indigo stratus]

16 fractal

[jolly kiln]

yea itll rise to over 100% eventually